Joe Rogan Experience #2293 - Chris Williamson

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Man, whatever. You took the glasses off. I was hoping you were gonna keep them on.

   3. CWChris Williamson0:15

      You want me to keep them on?

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      You can pull them off.

   5. CWChris Williamson0:17

      Let me try them on.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Some dudes can't pull off douchey glasses, you know?

   7. CWChris Williamson0:19

      You think these are douchey?

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      A little bit if I didn't know you, but I know you.

   9. CWChris Williamson0:23

      All right, well-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       You're not douchey at all, so you can wear cool glasses.

   11. CWChris Williamson0:25

       Well, these were requests by you-

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       (laughs)

   13. CWChris Williamson0:26

       ... so I can wear what I want.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       You've been wearing them a lot. I like them.

   15. CWChris Williamson0:30

       Yeah, yeah, I do. They're kind of... It's like w- having an Instagram filter for the entire world.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Right.

   17. CWChris Williamson0:34

       So everything feels just-

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Just a little rosy. I had a, I had a pair of rose-colored glasses before, and I got it. I was like, "Oh, I get it."

   19. CWChris Williamson0:39

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       It is better this way.

   21. CWChris Williamson0:40

       It is nicer.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       (laughs)

   23. CWChris Williamson0:41

       Yeah, yeah, it's like a full-on... Dude, I got... I, I need to show you this, so...

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Okay. What is this?

   25. CWChris Williamson0:45

       Have a little open of that. So you'll remember that I sent you a photo on iMessage a couple of months ago of a friend of mine who was in Antarctica?

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah.

   27. CWChris Williamson0:56

       And he flew a Comedy Mothership lighter out to Antarctica.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       (laughs)

   29. CWChris Williamson1:01

       I've been reliably told that that lighter was used to smoke weed in Antarctica.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       In Antarctica? Wow.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Distract them with social…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      people like, uh, University of Austin, which is, uh, they're aiming to do just that and to d- kind of bypass all this nonsense and just teach people reality. Um, and I also think that it's most likely ... I mean, I don't even wanna say most likely. It's most certainly influenced by other countries that wanna degrade our ability to develop meaningful minds that come out of universities, like i- intelligent, useful people.

   2. CWChris Williamson15:30

      Distract them with social justice.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      Yeah. Not just distract them, but destroy society with them. It's Yuri Bezmenov's prediction from 1984. It's like you could pass that off as a ridiculous conspiracy theory i- if, if it wasn't totally accurate. (laughs)

   4. CWChris Williamson15:44

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:45

      It's like-

   6. CWChris Williamson15:46

      How-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:46

      ... it's amazing how people don't want to believe that maybe, um, there's been subversion and that maybe our universities have been overrun for years with f- both funding, which we know is true, uh, s- particularly from China. China funds a lot of American universities. They do, they give a lot of grants. They spend a lot of money. And this was th- this was a part of the whole thing with George W., or not George W., excuse me, um, with Joe Biden's bizarre job that he had where he was a professor, that he never showed up for classes, and that he was teaching, and h- he got a, a, a large salary.

   8. CWChris Williamson16:21

      Like a mob no-show job.

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:21

      He di- he got a mob no-show job teaching.

   10. CWChris Williamson16:24

       But as a professor?

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       Yeah, as a professor. And I think he got $1 million a year to just do nothing.

   12. CWChris Williamson16:29

       You know that, uh, question that people ask about-

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:31

       Find out how much he got. I don't wanna get sued.

   14. CWChris Williamson16:34

       (laughs) Allegedly.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       By Legend Man. (laughs)

   16. CWChris Williamson16:36

       Um ... Uh, he doesn't know what's going on.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:38

       He doesn't know what's going ... Well, he might auto-sign the-

   18. CWChris Williamson16:40

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:41

       ... legal papers.

   20. CWChris Williamson16:42

       Um, there's that question about there's two options about, um, life in the universe, that either we're alone or that we're not, and both are equally terrifying.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:49

       Right.

   22. CWChris Williamson16:49

       Right? I feel like it's the same when it comes to Western anti-Westernism.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:56

       Yeah.

   24. CWChris Williamson16:56

       And you say, either we're doing it to ourselves or we're not.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:00

       Right.

   26. CWChris Williamson17:00

       And both are equally terrifying.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:02

       Yeah, yeah.

   28. CWChris Williamson17:02

       You know? You're being puppeted by this nefarious foreign power, or you're just turning around and kicking the ball into the, uh, your own goal over and over again.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:11

       Well, I think people will turn around and kick the ball into their own goal. But I also think they're being helped. I think there's a substantial amount of this that just works automatically. It, it preys upon really weak minds and particularly bullies and mean people who wanna find other people that they can hate to justify, like, whatever virtue they believe that they have above those people.

   30. CWChris Williamson17:37

       Mm.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Is that purposefully no…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      they pay people to show up at these places. Uh, I've got pamphlets that people have given me that they've taken from these, these locations or gotten from email lists, where-

   2. CWChris Williamson30:10

      Is that purposefully no digital record?

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      I, I think probably, but I don't think they care. I mean, I think as long as they're saying they're gonna pay you to protest, I think that's legal. I think it's legal to pay someone to protest. So they're paying people $1,000 and they're giving them food and snacks, and you can get a lot of people to just show up for 1,000 bucks. And then some of them are gonna get a little vandaly. Some of them-

   4. CWChris Williamson30:34

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:34

      Some of the-

   6. CWChris Williamson30:34

      Bring enough people together and they get vandaly?

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:36

      How crazy is it that the left are the ones who are painting swastikas on cars?... just understand how crazy positions can flip and flop. The left is upset that we're not continuing an endless war in Ukraine. The left is upset that this guy is uncovering fraud and waste. And so, in order to stop that, you must light cars on fire and put swastikas on them, 'cause he's a Nazi, 'cause he said, "My heart goes out to you." Even though there's countless videos of AOC doing that gesture, Tim Walsh doing that gesture enthusiastically, many, many people.

   8. CWChris Williamson31:17

      I do think, if you're in that position, if you've got this heritage coming in-

   9. JRJoe Rogan31:21

      Don't do it.

   10. CWChris Williamson31:21

       ... just be careful with where you put your hands.

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:23

       Don't do it.

   12. CWChris Williamson31:23

       Do you know what I mean?

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       Don't do that, Mike. (laughs)

   14. CWChris Williamson31:24

       Like, just fucking think about where you put your hands.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:27

       He's, you know, he's on the spectrum, man. He's not w- normal.

   16. CWChris Williamson31:30

       You seen that video comparing him and Trump's son? There's two different types of autism.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:35

       (laughs)

   18. CWChris Williamson31:35

       Have you seen this?

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:36

       No, I haven't.

   20. CWChris Williamson31:37

       Oh my God.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:38

       Ugh.

   22. CWChris Williamson31:38

       It's so good. I think it's at the ... Is it the inauguration? And, uh, they're both stood next to each other, and Elon's sort of fist pumping and loving it, and, uh, Trump's son's just, like, staring off into the distance.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:48

       Apparently Trump's son went up to Biden at the inauguration and said, "It's on now."

   24. CWChris Williamson31:53

       (laughs) What is this, a fucking UFC fight?

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:57

       I mean, that's literally ... Apparently lip readers have, like, read what he said-

   26. CWChris Williamson32:02

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:02

       ... when he went up to ... 'Cause there's a moment where he goes up to Biden, and Biden looks confused, and he doesn't smile, and he's like, "Uh?" But he walks up to him and goes, "It's on now."

   28. CWChris Williamson32:12

       What they need to do-

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:13

       Which is pretty fun.

   30. CWChris Williamson32:13

       You know how, uh, football coaches have got ... They put the, the play thing over the front of their mouth-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. I think it's…

   1. CWChris Williamson45:00

      of claims over only the most recent period. And I just thought, guy shoots person, typically the guy that shoots them is in the wrong? And the reaction on the internet just, I, I, I wasn't ready for it, and it really sort of taught me this undercurrent of dissatisfaction that almost everybody in America has with the healthcare system.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:22

      Yeah. I think it's a quiet epidemic. I think there's been a lot of people massively affected by it, and they're just steaming, just sitting there seething-

   3. CWChris Williamson45:33

      Mm-hmm.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:33

      ... just angry that's-

   5. CWChris Williamson45:33

      Waiting for some righteous-

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:35

      Yeah.

   7. CWChris Williamson45:35

      ... person to come in and do retribution.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:36

      But then you see the, the fucking revolving door between the FDA and the pharmaceutical drug corporations, where these people leave and then all of a sudden they have these amazing jobs at pharmaceutical drug companies, they're making millions of dollars. Like, how is that legal? How is this whole thing legal? Like, e- when you realize that doctors are incentivized to medicate people, they're financially incentivized to give people certain medications, whether it's vaccines, they get bonuses if they vaccinate more than 60% of their clients and they lose those bonuses if people don't get vaccinated. There's like, a lot of creepy shit that's involved in medicine.

   9. CWChris Williamson46:14

      The FDA ban on compounded Ozempic started yesterday.

   10. JRJoe Rogan46:19

       Oh.

   11. CWChris Williamson46:20

       So-

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:20

       It's a ban?

   13. CWChris Williamson46:21

       So-

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:22

       So you have to get it from the big, big companies.

   15. CWChris Williamson46:24

       Correct. I, Brigham taught me about this-

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:26

       Mm-hmm.

   17. CWChris Williamson46:26

       I didn't understand how it works. If there's a shortage of a drug, compounding pharmacies are, kind of, allowed to just bypass patents in some way. It's like, you can produce it and you can make it cheaper and more widely available because the supply chain's fucked-

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:37

       Oh.

   19. CWChris Williamson46:37

       ... or something like that. And, uh, yesterday-

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:40

       That would be a good thing for society.

   21. CWChris Williamson46:42

       What? To make more drugs more widely available for cheaper?

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:44

       If it's, if it's good, if it's a very important pharmaceutical drug that can save people's lives-

   23. CWChris Williamson46:48

       Of course.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:48

       ... imagine, imagine not letting compound pharmacies make it for people that can't get it.

   25. CWChris Williamson46:54

       Yeah, or can't afford it, or don't have the insurance for it.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:56

       Yeah.

   27. CWChris Williamson46:56

       So yeah, I mean, that, that came into effect, I think Tirzepatide got popped yesterday-

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:00

       (laughs)

   29. CWChris Williamson47:00

       ... and then, uh, partway through April, uh, Semaglutide is gonna go as well.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:05

       Yeah, that's all just eliminating competition, right?
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   Whoosh. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      and instantaneously adapt to an environment. Why would we assume to some super advanced species from another planet, they would be, we would be horrified if we saw their real face, they'd just transform and-

   2. CWChris Williamson1:00:12

      Whoosh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      ... look like the Queen of England?

   4. CWChris Williamson1:00:13

      Yeah, and go sideways like that.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

      (laughs)

   6. CWChris Williamson1:00:15

      Fuck. Uh, do you know what a Boltzmann brain is? Have you ever heard of this?

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      No.

   8. CWChris Williamson1:00:18

      Okay. So, um, in an infinite universe, infinite, there is only, let's say the size of your brain, it's like, whatever, 20 centimeters cubed or something, maybe 30 centimeters cubed. Inside that space, there's only so many ways that you can put matter together so that it creates, uh, anything. There's a, a limited number of ways that matter can come together with different elements, different structures, different everything like that. So a Boltzmann brain suggests that across an infinite universe, there will be a brain the exact same as yours, the exact structure as yours, that comes into existence for a moment and then goes away. And the reason that you could be experiencing the world that you are now, all of your memories, your past, your history, the person that you think you are, is that you are a Boltzmann brain that just comes into existence and then goes.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

      Oh. Why-

   10. CWChris Williamson1:01:07

       Ludwig Boltzmann.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

       ... why do you come into existence and then go away? Why don't you just exist somewhere else?

   12. CWChris Williamson1:01:12

       You could exist somewhere else, but this brain appears just spontaneously because in an infinite universe, there is only so many different ways that you can piece matter together.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       Right.

   14. CWChris Williamson1:01:22

       And it means that if you... It's the monkey's typewriter thing.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       Yes.

   16. CWChris Williamson1:01:25

       It's the exact same as that, but for the way that matter's constructed. It's basically, uh, like a brain in a vat idea, but using infinite physics to kind of explain it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:34

       The way it was explained to me is that if the universe is truly infinite, not only is there another version of you somewhere, but there is another version of you that did the exact same thing you have done every step of the way.

   18. CWChris Williamson1:01:49

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:50

       Every time you sneezed, every hesitation before you spoke your mind, every time you almost went into traffic when you didn't realize the light was still red.

   20. CWChris Williamson1:02:00

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:02:00

       All of those things have happened in the exact same order an infinite number of times, and every possible conceivable variation in between-

   22. CWChris Williamson1:02:11

       That you wore red instead of blue.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:02:12

       Yep.

   24. CWChris Williamson1:02:13

       That you turned left instead of right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:02:14

       Yep. Went trans instead of straight.

   26. CWChris Williamson1:02:17

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:17

       All of it, all of it. That you live in a totalitarian environment, that you live in a utopia, that you, that, you know, the, the Germans won the war. That... Yeah, all that. Everything. Everything that could possibly be different would be different and in every possible scenario. That's what infinite means.

   28. CWChris Williamson1:02:36

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:36

       It means it's so vast. Like, the craziest one to me was the concept that inside every galaxy, in the center of every galaxy is a super massive black hole. And that super massive black hole is approximately one half of 1% of the mass of the entire galaxy. If you go into that super massive black... So there's hundreds of billions of galaxies, right? Inside that super massive black hole is an entirely nother universe filled with unit, with, with all sorts of different galaxies that have super massive black holes in them. You go into one of those, another universe filled, super massive black holes. Another universe filled, all super massive black holes. Each one, another universe.

   30. CWChris Williamson1:03:18

       It's just a WinZip file all the way down.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:15:10

   Section 6

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:15:00

      foods, a lot, but there's also environmental factors that seem to be altering the actual way a child develops in the womb. And this is, uh, Dr. Shanna Swan's work.

Episode duration: 2:51:36