Joe Rogan Experience #2296 - Big Jay Oakerson

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Big J.

   5. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:17

      ... over here, buddy.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Rock and roll. What's happening?

   7. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:18

      Hell yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      You went with the three nose rings now. You're getting crazy.

   9. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:21

      Yeah. It's getting carried away. I went to go... I had a cold, and I think I blew my nose, one of them out.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       (laughs)

   11. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:28

       So then I went to go get it re-put back in, and then I was like, "Throw another one in there while you're at it."

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Fuck it.

   13. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:32

       Um, just me fighting age, I think.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Is that what it is?

   15. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:35

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       There's something weird when you're fighting age. Like, you know you're doing it, but you can't help it. (laughs)

   17. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:40

       Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Like, when people make fun of m- just the way I dress or whatever, coloring my hair, my piercings, t- And they're always like, it's like, "Is it gonna change at some point?" And I am hitting an age where I'm like, I can't just do a (laughs) hard shift one day. But it is funny to think, like, I can't see myself at 65-

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       With painted nails.

   19. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:58

       ... doing some of this stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       (laughs)

   21. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00

       I don't know.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       Why not? Who gives a shit?

   23. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:03

       You can't, but it's also like, I feel if I saw it, I'd have a million and one jokes about it.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Right.

   25. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:08

       But it's still, at the end of the day, you're like... You know, I'd walk out, I'd go, "Oh, I forgot my pocket scarf. I gotta go back upstairs."

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       (laughs)

   27. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:16

       (laughs) I forgot my Gouachemals.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       As long as you're still funny, you can pull it off. But when you're bombing with red hair and three nose rings-

   29. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:23

       Shit. That's true.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       ... it becomes an issue.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   (laughs) …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

   2. BOBig Jay Oakerson15:00

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      So crazy. You could make a movie like that. Uh-

   4. BOBig Jay Oakerson15:03

      I think it'd still be that kind of inflammatory. They'd go for it. It's the... Have you m-

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      That's-

   6. BOBig Jay Oakerson15:06

      I just watched that Adolescence thing, which I thought was a-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      What is Adolescence?

   8. BOBig Jay Oakerson15:10

      It's this, uh, new... It's a four-part, like, miniseries on Netflix. It's British. I'm like... I watch things so open-minded and just looking to be entertained that I miss messages a lot. But by the third episode, I realized w-... It's about a little boy gets immediately accused of, uh, that's how it starts, of killing a classmate and he's getting arrested. Each episode is one shot. To me it's like a play and the acting is unbelievable. But the... what it whittles down to, it's apparently like a, uh... from the, the videos I watched beyond, like, this show explained, 'cause I look at all those, and it was like an anti, like, toxic masculinity, like, message.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:51

      Oh.

   10. BOBig Jay Oakerson15:51

       And the idea was just, like, the kid's watched porn and his dad's a tough guy, so that's why-

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       So he thought about it-

   12. BOBig Jay Oakerson15:59

       ... he thought he can kill a woman or why he can kill a girl.

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       Wow.

   14. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:02

       And they shout out, uh... And, again, this... I don't know a lot of this guy's stuff other than the basic idea, but they shout out Andrew Tate in it. When I heard that name, I was like, "Oh, that's what this is." This is going back there.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       But here's the thing. There is... That could be a real guy. Like, that's less preposterous than the white power group on campus.

   16. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:19

       Oh, yeah, yeah, no doubt.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       Like, like, there's kids that get radicalized. They get a, uh, an evil parent who, you know, who fucking-

   18. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:24

       But they, they didn't really make it that the dad was evil. They were making it more like the porn and, like, the idea that, like-

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:30

       Well, that too.

   20. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:30

       ... that mom should be in line and cooking.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:32

       There's these guys who grow up without a mom. Those guys can def-... If they have a shitty dad and no mom, those guys could definitely be s-... And if you have psycho in your DNA.

   22. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:41

       I had too much mom. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       (laughs) No, you didn't. No, you had the perfect amount to make you.

   24. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:45

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:46

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   26. BOBig Jay Oakerson17:41

       I had a... I had little dad, lots of mom, just tendencies when I... And my step-pop, man, he swooped in and saved my ass from really being as, as twirly as possible without being into cocks.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:54

       (laughs)

   28. BOBig Jay Oakerson17:54

       (laughs) I mean, I was right-

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:59

       That's hilarious.

   30. BOBig Jay Oakerson17:59

       ... there primed for the take and I'm sitting there laying on my tummy as a kid watching Falcon Crest in Dallas with my mom.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   I, I think that…

   1. BOBig Jay Oakerson30:00

      are you a cop?" He's like, "Shit, man. Yeah."

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      I, I think that was like a-

   3. BOBig Jay Oakerson30:03

      "You were at my kid's christening."

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      (laughs)

   5. BOBig Jay Oakerson30:05

      "Ah, I know, man. You never asked. I swore at this point, I thought you were never gonna ask."

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      I think that was, like, a dumb thing they made up for TV shows.

   7. BOBig Jay Oakerson30:11

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      You know? And then everybody thought it was real.

   9. BOBig Jay Oakerson30:14

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:14

       It was, like, some dumb plot point. (laughs)

   11. BOBig Jay Oakerson30:16

       "Are you a cop?" "No." "Yeah, you... Of course you could say no."

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       Right, because the good guy who was the cop always had to be honest.

   13. BOBig Jay Oakerson30:23

       Yeah, ex- which-

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       He would never lie. This guy, he, this... He was telling me about w- he had to do cocaine with these people, they had to beat people up. And he's like, "If shit went down, man, I had to be a part of it." I was like-

   15. BOBig Jay Oakerson30:33

       The prostitute stings they would do on cops were always, they'd get in the car and they'd be like, "Are you a cop?" And he'd go, "Come on. Do I look like a cop?"

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       Bro, this guy got busted wearing a wire and got away with it.

   17. BOBig Jay Oakerson30:44

       Really?

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       They didn't find the wire.

   19. BOBig Jay Oakerson30:46

       No shit.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       They came that close. He said they were inches away. They were rubbing his clothes, like checking all his clothes. He said they were inches away, but he was like arguing with them, "I can't fucking believe you guys," like that kinda shit. And then-

   21. BOBig Jay Oakerson30:57

       After I, after I mysteriously showed up three weeks ago-

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       (laughs)

   23. BOBig Jay Oakerson31:01

       ... and now I'm working my way through the ranks.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       (laughs)

   25. BOBig Jay Oakerson31:03

       Now you're gonna start patting me down. All right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:05

       And I'm helping you run guns and drugs to Mexico.

   27. BOBig Jay Oakerson31:08

       You guys, I bought donuts yesterday morning.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       Come on, guys.

   29. BOBig Jay Oakerson31:10

       I'm the, I'm that guy.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       I'm that guy.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Oh, no. …

   1. BOBig Jay Oakerson45:00

      walk into the diner next door, and I go, "This might be our chance." I... We just are loosely connected and, you know, maybe I can get him to remember. And we go in there. It's my best interaction with him ever. I, I go up, I go, "Hey, Rob." I go, "Jay Oakerson." I go, "We met through Tom Papa before and blah, blah, blah." And he's like, "Oh, yeah." And he shoots the shit with us for, like, five minutes. And then I go, "Well, anyway, man, I'm really excited for the movie. I hope we get in. You know, we're, like, super far back in line." He goes, "You'll be fine." (laughs) Just so-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:31

      Oh, no.

   3. BOBig Jay Oakerson45:31

      And then we... And we did not get in. (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:33

      (laughs)

   5. BOBig Jay Oakerson45:33

      We rode a hot subway home together, staring at Nate.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:35

      Oh, no. "You'll be fine."

   7. BOBig Jay Oakerson45:37

      Yeah. He goes-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:38

      Yikes.

   9. BOBig Jay Oakerson45:38

      ... "Nah, you'll be fine." (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       "You'll be fine" as "I'm not gonna help you."

   11. BOBig Jay Oakerson45:41

       Yeah, it really was-

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       "You'll be fine."

   13. BOBig Jay Oakerson45:43

       ... flat out, he goes, "This has been great, but leave me alone now." (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       The thing about it, though, is, like, does he save tickets? Like, does he have a block of tickets saved? You know what I mean?

   15. BOBig Jay Oakerson45:52

       For sure.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       (laughs)

   17. BOBig Jay Oakerson45:54

       For sure.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       Not for the guy at the diner, though.

   19. BOBig Jay Oakerson45:58

       There's some people you just don't resonate with in the world, I think-

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       Well-

   21. BOBig Jay Oakerson46:01

       ... at that time. I don't know. Dave Chappelle's another one. Uh, Dave Chappelle, I've met over the last 25 years a dozen times. I did some punch-ups on season one of, uh, Chappelle's Show. He bumped me and Kurt Metzger off a weekend, uh, in the thing, and we... But we were there, and we hung out with him there. And every time I see him still, it's just completely unfamiliar.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:22

       (laughs)

   23. BOBig Jay Oakerson46:22

       Chris Rock, same thing. I do not make an impression with these people.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:25

       (laughs) That's so weird.

   25. BOBig Jay Oakerson46:26

       I also shut down around celebrity.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:28

       Oh, maybe that's it. Maybe you need to-

   27. BOBig Jay Oakerson46:29

       So I don't... I'm not a... I, I can't inject, uh, my personality out of the gates, uh, in a situation where I'm, like, intimidated by, like, someone. I'm like, I'm like... Where I go... Not intimidated, but I go, "Man, I really want them to like me."

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       Is... Uh, isn't that weird? Because you know so many famous people.

   29. BOBig Jay Oakerson46:45

       But, uh... But you know what I mean by, "Want them to li- not like me," but I go-

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:48

       I know.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:06:50

   Sure. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      kinda celebrating pimps and prostitutes. Like, do you remember Pimps Up, Hoes Down?

   2. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00:05

      Sure.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      Yeah, I mean, that was, like, a famous documentary.

   4. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00:08

      Mr. White Folks.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      Mr. White Folks, yeah.

   6. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00:10

      He was the best. Yeah, I watched all those. Um-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      But they were, like, celebrated. Like, people liked ... And then there was American Pimp. Remember that film?

   8. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00:18

      Mm-hmm. Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

      Yeah.

   10. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00:19

       No, it was-

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       It's weird.

   12. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00:21

       ... it wa- Well, that was like the, the small window of like pro-sexuality and go be whores, girls. And then it immediately became Me Too. That's wh-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       But it was weird.

   14. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00:30

       What happened to me immediately.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

       It was weird though because it was the exploiters of those women. It wasn't like it's okay to be a prostitute. It was it's cool to be the man who exploits all these women and gets them to go be prostitutes for him.

   16. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00:43

       Well, I think it took 20 some years for people to realize that Joe Francis was a terrible guy. You know what I mean?

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       (laughs)

   18. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00:47

       He was celebrated as, as hell. I just heard a Howard Stern clip the other day where he had Joe Francis on. I'm sure if you ask him about-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       Wow.

   20. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00:53

       ... Joe Francis now, he'd be like, "What a terrible piece of shit."

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       Yeah. Y-

   22. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:00:57

       But when Girls Gone Wild was a thing, everyone was just like, "Who cares how it gets done?"

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       (laughs) Yeah, that's crazy, right? Like, Girls Gone W- That's how the i- When the internet wasn't around, you could buy tapes of drunk girls at the bar flashing their boobs.

   24. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:01:09

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

       And you'd pay for it.

   26. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:01:10

       Yep.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:11

       You'd pay for it.

   28. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:01:12

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:12

       And it had, like, a production value.

   30. BOBig Jay Oakerson1:01:14

       Oh. No, you'd pay, you'd pay for it, and then you were part of a subscription service (laughs) that-

Episode duration: 2:50:59