Joe Rogan Experience #2302 - Ron White

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. RWRon White0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. NANarrator0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) What up? Hey, fella, what up? What's going on, Ron White?

   3. RWRon White0:16

      Ah, I'm feeling good finally after my little bout with fucking COVID.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      They gotcha. They got you with the new COVID, so-

   5. RWRon White0:24

      They got me with the new COVID, man.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      ... I thought the new COVID was total bullshit. I thought it was like a ba- baby cold. But-

   7. RWRon White0:29

      I had, um... You know, my, my girlfriend raised two kids and she said she's never seen anybody puke as much as I did for two days.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:38

      Wow.

   9. RWRon White0:39

      And, uh, and it was (laughs) it was brutal. It was just bile and... I don't even know if I ever b- I, I've ever been that sick. It only... I lasted that part of it a couple of days.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       That's interesting. I wonder if you got multiple things at the same time. Do people usually puke a lot if they get COVID, Jamie, do you know?

   11. RWRon White0:58

       I don't remember that being a symptom.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       I don't remember having that either.

   13. RWRon White1:02

       Well-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       You might've had a couple things at the same time-

   15. RWRon White1:04

       You know, I, I just-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       ... 'cause there was a bad flu going around too.

   17. RWRon White1:06

       Well, I went to, uh, you know, I went to Vegas and, uh, early and I had kinda... I just thought I had a cold when I went and, uh, my doctor here gave me a shot of steroids and I felt way fucking better. I mean, I felt better everywhere. I was more flexible. I was like, "Fuck it-"

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       (laughs)

   19. RWRon White1:23

       "... I wanna do steroids every goddamn day."

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       What kind of steroid was it?

   21. RWRon White1:26

       I don't know, but whatever it was, man, I could touch the floor without bending my knees without stretching at all. But I could do-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:33

       Like a cortisone shot?

   23. RWRon White1:34

       I, I don't know. It... Just-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:36

       Wow.

   25. RWRon White1:36

       She said steroids. She gave it to me. I don't ask a lot of questions, you know what I mean?

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       So you just felt loose?

   27. RWRon White1:40

       I felt loose and good. I played really good golf-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:43

       (laughs)

   29. RWRon White1:43

       ... and then I got there and it started catching up with me. I had my girlfriend, I'm staying in the mansion down at, you know, at, uh, MGM Grand, which is pretty sweet, and... And, uh, and I had that show just on Saturday and we got there on Wednesday and I'm like, "Fucking... I'm not gonna make it." I felt it all starting to deteriorate. So I called this doctor-

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       Damn, it was so bad you didn't think you, you were gonna make it on Saturday?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   45, I think, about.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      in your head. 'Cause like, when did blue collar was like... how old were you when that, that tour kicked off?

   2. RWRon White15:05

      45, I think, about.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      Yeah, see, that's, that's, that's why. That's the thing. Do you know who else had that same sort of feel? Phil Hartman. Phil Hartman didn't get on Saturday Night Live till, think he was 36. That was his first break.

   4. RWRon White15:20

      36?

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

   6. RWRon White15:23

      Now, did he do standup also, or is he a comedic actor?

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:25

      He was going to. He would do some standup to warm up the crowd sometimes.

   8. RWRon White15:31

      Oh, okay.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      And he would fuck around, and he and I talked about it, and I said, "Anytime you wanna do it," I go, "I'll take you to the store." I go, "You, you can get on stage. Let's..." I go, "You don't need a lot of time. You just, like, put together five minutes. I'll help you. I know you could do it." And he had some really funny impressions. He had a really funny Bill Clinton impression.

   10. RWRon White15:48

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       He was a funny fucking dude, and a hard worker. You wanna talk about a hard worker. That dude used to make me, e-... everybody felt like they weren't a professional when they were around that guy 'cause he would have, like, tabs and shit, a notebook, where all his scenes were, everything was organized.

   12. RWRon White16:04

       Yeah, I already feel unprofessional. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       While he was doing that, he was also trying to take his pilot's license, so in between scenes he'd be reading airplane books. (laughs)

   14. RWRon White16:13

       Jesus Christ. What a fucking tragedy, man. What a fucking tragedy.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:17

       Oh, bro, you don't know the half of it. I tried to get him to divorce her a long time ago. I told him, like, right when he was struggling. I said, "Man, just give her half. Just get out. You'll make more money." And he was like, "Well, it's not half. It's a scam."

   16. RWRon White16:32

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       "The lawyers get a third."

   18. RWRon White16:34

       (laughs) Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       "It's a third. You get a third of your fucking money." I'm like, "Okay, okay, okay, just give her the money. Just give her the money." Money is f- fun coupons.

   20. RWRon White16:42

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       If you're having money and you're not having fun, you-

   22. RWRon White16:45

       Then what do you got?

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:46

       ... you gotta cut something off, you know? You gotta figure out what... where's the cancer? (making a cutting sound) Hack it off. Hack off that melanoma and let's get this party rolling. Like, you, you shouldn't be involved with someone that you hate. That's crazy. You come home to someone who hates you. That's crazy.

   24. RWRon White17:04

       That is insane, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:05

       That's crazy, and it-

   26. RWRon White17:06

       And I, you know, and I've been in bad relationships before that I, that I cut off, and-

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:10

       Of course.

   28. RWRon White17:11

       ... and, uh, and then all of a sudden you can breathe again, you know, and it-

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:14

       You're a different person when you're in a bad relationship. Like, you're bad too. Like, you're not your best. Just like a bad friendship. Like, you're not the best friend if th- your friend is a cocksucker. You know, you're, you're good friends with good friends.

   30. RWRon White17:28

       Right.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

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   1. RWRon White30:00

      dad was the music director at my church and he and I used to bluff, buff the floors of the church with those big bluff... That was our, our job on one day a week that we'd go down there and, and we'd actually sing Neil Young songs to the top of our lungs 'cause we-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:16

      (laughs)

   3. RWRon White30:17

      << Well, I dream nice all the nights, you know >> We'd just sing the fuck out of Neil Young songs 'cause that's the only tape I had, you know. I know you and him had a little problem, but, uh...

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:27

      I don't have no problem with him.

   5. RWRon White30:28

      I know. You were so sweet about that.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:29

      I love that guy. I love his music. Uh, he just had... He didn't get it.

   7. RWRon White30:35

      No, he didn't.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:35

      That's all it is.

   9. RWRon White30:36

      That was, that was a, that was a dumb thing.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       Well, he just missed... He didn't understand what was happening, and nobody did. I don't blame him. Nobody did. I'd, I'd talk to him in a heartbeat, even though he pulled his music and tried to get me removed from Spotify. (laughs)

   11. RWRon White30:50

       Right. That was a-

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       I still don't care. I love that guy. And I loved his music. Even after he did it, I still listened to his music. Uh, he just got... He missed... He didn't know what was happening. He got tricked. A lot of people got tricked, you know? A lot of people thought that this was the only way out, we had to listen to these evil, lying fucks that were telling us that everybody had to take this vaccine and there was no other medicine available and if you didn't, everybody was gonna die. And, you know, he got caught up in it. They got us all, though. They got the whole country. You can't be mad at the whole country.

   13. RWRon White31:28

       Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       That's crazy.

   15. RWRon White31:29

       ... right? I, I-

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:30

       I don't wanna be mad at anybody anymore, Ron White.

   17. RWRon White31:32

       I don't either.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:33

       As I get older, (sighs) I'm less and less inclined. There's people I don't wish to talk to.

   19. RWRon White31:39

       Right.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:39

       But, like, I don't need that in my life. I don't need whatever you bring in my life. But I don't wish you bad.

   21. RWRon White31:46

       Yeah, I have really, really healthy boundaries when it comes to people that don't make me feel good. You know?

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:52

       Good.

   23. RWRon White31:52

       I just don't s- I just won't hang around 'em.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:54

       Yeah, I don't wanna be around 'em and confront 'em. Like, (mouth farts) who cares?

   25. RWRon White31:57

       Yeah. Yeah, no. I-

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:58

       Good luck to you. I'll give you a hug.

   27. RWRon White31:59

       I got some other shit going on.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:01

       Yeah, I have friends.

   29. RWRon White32:02

       But you know what? I, I tell you what, what makes you a good friend. Uh, when you get successful, and I'll just talk about successful like I am, i- it's hard to find anybody that'll disagree with you, you know? That, uh, because there's something to gain. And, and that's true with you too. I mean, that, you know, you, you hold a lot of power. Uh, and, and you have something that a, a lot of people fucking want. And I know that because (snaps fingers) I have a b- (laughs) I have a box of ... And I should've brought 'em and given 'em to you anyway. I'll bring 'em to the club tonight. But it's just a guy I met that owns a sunglass company.

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:41

       (laughs)
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Right. …

   1. RWRon White45:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Right.

   3. RWRon White45:00

      And, uh, but they just know how to, they know how to handle it. Well, I wonder if you're just in some mansion in Beverly Hills or whatever, if there's somebody there that knows how to handle it and that kind of-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      Probably not.

   5. RWRon White45:13

      Probably not. (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      Probably not.

   7. RWRon White45:14

      So-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      Especially if you don't know what you're gonna h- get hit with.

   9. RWRon White45:17

      Yeah, and you need to be, uh, in a really safe place where people know how to guide you through it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:22

       Yeah.

   11. RWRon White45:23

       You know, you don't... It's not something I think you wanna grab a handful of and go sit in a fucking closet, you know?

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       Yeah.

   13. RWRon White45:28

       And try to figure it out for yourself, so.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:30

       Yeah. That's the real weirdness of any kind of a s- psychedelic journey, is that you're probably gonna be going through some shit, and someone could either manipulate you during that time or help you during that time.

   15. RWRon White45:44

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       And there are people that will manipulate you.

   17. RWRon White45:48

       Absolutely, but, b- b- and, and that's why, you know, th- that's why I go to this place-

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       'Cause it's legit.

   19. RWRon White45:54

       ... that's not that easy to go to.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       Yeah.

   21. RWRon White45:55

       But just because it's so safe.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       Mm-hmm.

   23. RWRon White45:59

       Uh, you know, it's just, it's set up perfectly for what they're trying to do, and, uh, and it was, it was this guy's dream to do that, to make it accessible to regular people. So back then, when he opened up, you had to go to a corrugated tin shack in Peru or wherever-

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:16

       Mm-hmm.

   25. RWRon White46:16

       ... to get this stuff, and he said, "I want to make a place that's safe to go, and people feel comfortable and," you know, so it's-

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:23

       Isn't it kind of crazy that that's illegal? I mean, it's kind of the weirdest thing of all time that we haven't just, as a society, went, "Okay, w- why are all these people going to these places? Okay, when they come back, do they have positive experiences? Does it help them? Yeah, a lot of them. Okay, why don't we do that here?" It should be that simple.

   27. RWRon White46:41

       Should be that simple.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       It should be so simple.

   29. RWRon White46:43

       Yeah, there was a guy there that was on a scholarship they had for basically wounded warriors that are going through heavy PTSD. There's an organization that is, that's sending guys to Arrhythmia, and, and, uh, so and I, I got to talk to him a lot while he was there, and he was a psychologist, uh, and b- but... And he was f- (laughs) he was fucked up, and, uh, e- but I kind of got to watch his transformation a little bit, watch this guy s- coming around, and I'd seen that, and I'd seen the transformation in myself, where I could just not be so angry and not be... And not hold all this hate, you know, that-

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:22

       Right.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:12:04

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   1. NANarrator1:00:00

      I, one last point here. I've called, I decided I was dumb and didn't understand it, so I called the who's who of the folks who've been around it. And I said, "Why won't everybody go south?" They said, "We'll be disrupted." I said, "For how long?" I finally got them up for 12 to 15 years. And I said, "Well, how does it stop being disruptive?" And that is when their jobs come up from a dollar an hour to six dollars an hour and ours go down to six dollars an hour, then it's leveled again.

   2. RWRon White1:00:20

      (laughs)

   3. NANarrator1:00:20

      But in the meantime, you've wrecked the country with these kinds of deals.

   4. RWRon White1:00:23

      Jesus Christ.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

      He was right.

   6. RWRon White1:00:25

      What a fucking smart man.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

      He was right.

   8. RWRon White1:00:27

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

      And that's exactly what happened.

   10. RWRon White1:00:28

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:28

       American manufacturing collapsed. Yeah.

   12. RWRon White1:00:31

       They-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

       And they did it all for money. And they did it all because they were greedy. They were already rich.

   14. RWRon White1:00:36

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       And if we could've just gotten those motherfuckers some ayahuasca.

   16. RWRon White1:00:39

       Jesus Christ, they'd have smoothed the fuck out, man.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

       They would've said, "Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay."

   18. RWRon White1:00:44

       Yeah, let's be nice.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:45

       Let's make America great again. (laughs)

   20. RWRon White1:00:46

       I don't understand the trade war with, with Canada, 'cause have you ever met a Canadian that had $35 in his pocket? No. They're all broke. They have $22. That's it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Really?

   22. RWRon White1:00:58

       And they'll buy you a beer. You know? I love Canadians.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       They're all broke?

   24. RWRon White1:01:01

       (laughs) I've always... Yeah, they're broke.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       (laughs)

   26. RWRon White1:01:02

       They don't have any money up there.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

       How come they don't have any money?

   28. RWRon White1:01:04

       'Cause they're, they're, because it, it's socialism. You know? They just, they, they ha- I think it's a great place. Don't you love Canada? Doesn't it-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:12

       I love it.

   30. RWRon White1:01:12

       Yeah.

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