EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,067 words- 0:00 – 15:00
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- NANarrator
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)
- GBGary Brecka
All right, we're up to speed, Breckin.
- JRJoe Rogan
All right. Good to see you, my friend.
- GBGary Brecka
Wow. That was fast. Good to see you, too, brother.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's how we do it. We just get right into it.
- GBGary Brecka
(laughs) It's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
You got notes, dude.
- GBGary Brecka
... sit down and roll.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're organized. You're a rare guest.
- GBGary Brecka
Uh, I actually ... You know what? I normally don't bring notes, but I was talking to Calley Means on the way over here, and, you know, we're, we're really supporting Bobby Kennedy's whole MHA, you know, movement, and, and, uh, trying to officially put a committee together to, to, to really give him some great talking points and then bring some of the big influencers together to help him message, you know, around the media. And I was like, "What are some of the wins that we've had in the last week that I don't know about?" And so he just rattled them off, and I-
- JRJoe Rogan
There's some wins?
- GBGary Brecka
... just jotted them down.
- JRJoe Rogan
What are the wins?
- GBGary Brecka
Well, I mean, um, you know, so Trump formed this, uh, Strong Kids Commission, and, and if you remember when he first got into office, he actually, um, by executive order, he authorized Bobby to, um, to do a study with the, you know, Health and Human Services to, to look into the genesis of chronic disease, 'cause nobody, nobody's talking about it. The National Institute of Health or National Library of Medicine or in our, you know, public health policy, nobody's talking about what's causing this pandemic.
- JRJoe Rogan
Gee, I wonder why they're not talking about it?
- GBGary Brecka
(laughs) Well, I could give you a couple of-
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you think money has anything to do with it?
- GBGary Brecka
... I could give you a couple of clues.
- JRJoe Rogan
Nah.
- GBGary Brecka
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
No way.
- GBGary Brecka
God.
- JRJoe Rogan
These are the best-
- GBGary Brecka
You're a conspiracy theorist, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
I know.
- GBGary Brecka
You're down the rabbit hole.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's my problem.
- GBGary Brecka
You think that just because people-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's my main problem.
- GBGary Brecka
... get paid, they do things that are shady.
- 15:00 – 30:00
(laughs) …
- GBGary Brecka
guys sound like you boarded a spaceship and literally left Mother Earth, because I have no idea what you're talking about. You are talking about trying to identify something that you, by its very nature, say you don't know if you have it or you don't."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GBGary Brecka
"So let's just admit that it's a ghost. So how are we gonna ... we can't measure it, we can't find it, we can't prove you have it, we can't prove you don't have it, so how are we gonna treat it?"
- JRJoe Rogan
What's this culture of victimization-
- GBGary Brecka
(laughs) What ... it's so crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and, and the monetization? It's like there's a, there's status in victimization. You know?
- GBGary Brecka
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That, that's the thing. They've, they've essentially made it, like, a virtue to be a victim.
- GBGary Brecka
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So you're looking for little things that have possibly ... I believe there was a microaggression. I believe he-
- GBGary Brecka
I, I think ... you know what? I think I felt it. I think-
- JRJoe Rogan
Possibly rolled his eyes.
- GBGary Brecka
(laughs) Possibly rolled his eyes.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, that is gonna haunt me. I need therapy now.
- GBGary Brecka
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I think he might've rolled his eyes.
- GBGary Brecka
And that's absolutely acceptable.
- JRJoe Rogan
That is microaggression, like maybe rolling your eye. Like, you say something to me and I go, "Okay," and then I leave. Oh my God, that was a microaggression.
- GBGary Brecka
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, what I just did, going, "Okay." That's a microaggression.
- GBGary Brecka
But here's the cool thing is you're kind of off the hook because if you didn't intentionally create the microaggression, I just perceived it as a microaggression-
- JRJoe Rogan
Depends on who I am. If I'm a white s- heterosexual-
- GBGary Brecka
Oh, then yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... cis male-
- GBGary Brecka
(laughs) Then you're screwed.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I got problems.
- GBGary Brecka
Then you're screwed. So anyway, back to the food supply. We took a, took a U-turn there for a second. Um, y- y- what's really interesting is if you just take a very, uh, 30,000-foot view and you say let's, let's just look at the broad strokes in the Blue Zone research, right? There's no continuity between diets in these Blue Zones.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- GBGary Brecka
So it's not keto, paleo, pescatarian, vegan, vegetarian, h- um, you know, raw food, Atkins. It's, it's whole food, just what you were just saying. You know if you-
- JRJoe Rogan
Whole food and a lot of healthy lifestyle.
- 30:00 – 45:00
And it's, like, delicious.…
- GBGary Brecka
hydrogen water versus non-hydrogen water in 70-year-old and older folks, and they used something called TET2 to measure inf- uh, methylation. They measured cognitive function, sleep scores, sit-stand ratios, how well they're able to sit and stand, telomere lengths in their chromosomes. And, and the really fascinating thing about this study is it was done during COVID. So, these seniors were basically imprisoned, right? So, they were not mobile, um, and the only difference between the groups that they, that they controlled for was the presence of hydrogen water. At the end of the six-month period during the lockdown, the non-con- the control group had lost 11% in their telomeres. The non-control group had gained 4%. They had better short-term recall, better cognitive scores, um, uh, better circulation, improvement in cardiac markers, improvement in inflammatory markers like C-reactive protein. I think it's... I think it's the greatest biohack on earth. That, and, like, some sea salt and some amino acids, like, a perfect amino, I mean, just covering your bases. I think those are, those are your foundational basics for, for optimal health.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's, like, delicious.
- GBGary Brecka
Dude, it's so good.
- JRJoe Rogan
It comes in good flavors.
- GBGary Brecka
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's easy to drink. It's, like, a pain-free thing that you can do. Inexpensive.
- GBGary Brecka
You know, you can bathe in it too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- GBGary Brecka
You can actually bathe in hydrogen gas. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
How many tabs you put in the water?
- GBGary Brecka
(laughs) You can, you can actually put h- oh, it's called a hydrogen bomb, which just looks like a big bath bomb. It just creates hydrogen gas. It's elemental magnesium.
- JRJoe Rogan
What does it do for you when you bathe in it?
- GBGary Brecka
It goes right transdermal, goes right to the skin. So, remember, hydrogen is, is the smallest, lightest element that we know of, right? So it go, it will go right transdermal, and these, um... Hydrogen gas will form in between water molecules. So, a water molecule is H₂O, but hydrogen gas can actually exist outside of the water molecule. And when you put excess hydrogen gas into the water, it will go right transdermal. And, you know, I have two of these baths at my house. I never talk about it, like, on social media, so I'm, I guess I'm about to talk about it now. But, um, I have literally put people into these tubs, I'm, I'm kidding you not, crippled with arthritis, and they will skip out of my unit like they won the lottery. It's incredible. I mean...
- JRJoe Rogan
So, transdermal reduction of inflammation in joints from these-
- GBGary Brecka
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
... hydrogen bombs?
- GBGary Brecka
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
How long does it last?
- GBGary Brecka
Or from a hydrogen bath. You can get these, you can get these machines. I mean, one for your house is about 7,500 bucks, 8,000 bucks. Um, and they make, uh, some that make nanoparticles or nanobubbles, which are about 1/500 the diameter of a human pore. So, if you run these things on your face, it'll actually push all the sebum out of your skin. It'll get, get rid of dandruff, psoriasis, eczema. Um, if you have any kind of inflammatory condition like knees, hips, shoulder, rotator cuff, arthritis, low back, um, bathing in hydrogen gas can be one of the most therapeutic things that you do.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- GBGary Brecka
Oh, my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
Can you add it to a cold plunge?
- GBGary Brecka
You can add it to a cold plunge, and what's interesting ab- about adding it to a cold... In fact, I use this Cold Life cold plunge, and I've got these guys, um, trying to see if we can incorporate the hydrogen gas into the cold plunge. So, where the, where the motor pulls the cold water out, it's gonna send it into a hydrogen generator and then push it back into the tub. Because as the temperature drops in water, you can saturate more gas. So, a, so, a 48-degree... Quo- quote me exactly on this. But a 48-degree cold plunge will hold about twice as much gas as 102-degree, you know, warm tub.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- GBGary Brecka
So, if you were, like, t- just taking, like, a warm bath.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- GBGary Brecka
So, you're gonna be cold plunging for three to six minutes every day, or, you know, that's what you and I do. You might as well be in there with hydrogen gas. And so I'm, I'm, I'm working with these guys from Cold Life to see if we can plumb these, um, hydrogen generators. And basically it's... It, it creates the hydrogen gas by, by taking, um, distilled water and breaking distilled water apart and then throwing the gas into the water.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- GBGary Brecka
And it is noticeably different when you bathe in this gas or not. Like, I had Sean Ryan over to my house, um, for a podcast one time, and you know, he's all banged up from being a Navy SEAL, and you know, he's got nips and bibles all over his body, and he just thought it was really weird because I was like, "Dude, you got to get in my bathtub." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
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- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Hm. …
- GBGary Brecka
it right into the cold plunge so it's just in line, so it just runs either all the time or I can turn a valve and turn the hydrogen gas on and have the gas go into the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hm.
- GBGary Brecka
... go into the cold plunge.
- JRJoe Rogan
So that's the next thing. But right now, for people, you can just go get these hydrogen bath bombs?
- GBGary Brecka
You can get these hydrogen bath bombs-
- JRJoe Rogan
And where, where would you get one of those?
- GBGary Brecka
Um, drinkh2tab-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, so you have them?
- GBGary Brecka
Drinkh2tab.com.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. All right.
- GBGary Brecka
Yeah, if you go there, you can get the bath bomb. I mean, try it. I mean, just throw one of those bath bombs in there, and, and feel how much different your body feels when you're bathing in hydrogen gas. It's, it's incredible. Um, I, I, I really feel like it is one of the best hacks that so few people are using.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) .
- GBGary Brecka
I mean, so many people are anti-inflammatory, so many people are suffering from inflammation, not just neural inflammation in the brain, um, but non-specific markers of inflammation like C-reactive protein, homocysteine, that are causing all kinds of havoc. I mean, you think about the fact that about 70% of our circulation is, is not done by our heart. Right? Our heart circulates about 30% of the blood in our body, but the other 70% of the circulation is, is a ... is an activity called vasomotor or vasomotion. Right? Think of a snake swallowing a, a mouse. And we don't really cater to this part of our circulatory system even though-
- JRJoe Rogan
Explain what you're saying. Wha- a snake swallowing a mouse? What's he mean?
- GBGary Brecka
So, so, so think of a snake ... So, so if the heart doesn't circulate roughly (clears throat) 70% of the blood in our body, um, how is that circulation occurring? 'Cause obviously blood is still moving. You have about 63,000 miles of blood vessel in your body. Um, and so there is ... Your heart is not strong enough in a single contraction, your left ventricle, your heart, that's ejecting that blood, is not strong enough to push the blood through 63,000 miles of vessel. And so how does the majority of this circulation occur? Well, the majority of our circulation is microvascular. Right? So the microvascular circulation does not move blood by pressure, it moves blood by something called vasomotion or vasomotor. And the best way I can describe vasomotion or vasomotor is to think of a snake swallowing a mouse. And the reason why I say that is because there's no pressure coming in th- the, the front of the snake. Right? It's not, it's not being pushed down the snake's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- GBGary Brecka
... throat, it's being muscularly moved down the snake's throat. So it's a wave-like motion. Right? It's a ... It's this, um, uh, wave-like motion called vasomotor or, or, or vasomotion. And vascular laxity, how ... The laxity that's in your vessels matters, your blood viscosity matters, and inflammation matters. This is why when you look at the percentage of high blood pressure diagnoses, for example, if you were to just Google, "What percentage of hypertension, primary hypertension, essential hypertension, um, or, you know, uh, uh, high blood pressure is idiopathic," right? "Of unknown origin," you'd see that 85% of all high blood pressure, hypertensive diagnoses, are idiopathic. We don't know the origin. And-... so we examine these people's heart, EKG, EEG, um, heart sounds, lung sounds, maybe a dye contrast study, maybe a CT angiogram, maybe a, you know, some other kind of, uh, diagnostic heart imaging. We can't find anything wrong with the heart and we medicate the heart anyway, generally for a crime it's not committing, when there's an 85% chance it's actually something other than the heart, and we never look to the microvascular circulation. We never look to the 70% of our circulation that's actually not done by our heart. What are we doing to cater to that 70% of our circulation? Well, um, things like resveratrol, uh, hydrogen gas, um, lowering our homocysteine, which is, for most people is very simple to do. I use an amino acid called trimethylglycine, um, uh, to, to, to help people metabolize homocysteine because th- those microvasculature is very susceptible to high levels of homocysteine. And there's so many people that have, um, ailments that are consequences of poor circulation, and we're treating something completely different. So for example, um, poor focus and concentration, um, um, uh, lo- lots of autoimmune conditions. If you look at the circulation in the brain, liver, lungs, pancreas, kidneys, you'll see that the majority of this circulation is microvascular. You know, I- I've talked about why, why you and I both had a positive experience, for example, with red light. Um, what is red light doing to our eyes? Is it fixing the rods, the macula, the cones, the retina? Was there something damaged that red light fixed? No, it just restored healthy vasomotor activity to the back of your eye, which is why I never wear protection in a, in a red light bed. Now am I saying a red light bed is gonna cure your eyesight? No. (laughs) Oh no, I'm getting, I'm getting so beat up for that. But red light therapy is extraordinarily good for vasomotor circulation. Why, why do you think it improves your skin, the collagen, elastin, the fibrin? Why do you think it reduces fine lines and wrinkles? Why does it improve, um, why can it improve, uh, our eyesight? Because it restores healthy vasomotor activity, and there's so much microvasculature in our body that we don't really cater to this entire segment of our circulatory system. Think about how small a, uh, capillary, an artery has to be to carry a fluid to the edge of the lung, exchange a gas with the inside of the lung, pull that gas into the fluid and not bleed into the lung. So just think about how s- how tiny that tube has to be, and how many of those you have to have, 'cause d- forget, right outside of your lungs you got fluid. Those alveoli are grabbing, uh, grabbing gas and throwing that into a fluid. Well, at some point, that pipe has to meet a piece of tissue. How is it not bleeding into that tissue? It is that small, and it's microvascular. Um, this is also where hydrogen gas comes into play. Uh, so, um, I don't know where I was going with that point, but (laughs) -
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- GBGary Brecka
... um, I just find it fascinating that we've got so many things that we can do to cater to a lot of these ailments that people chalk up to a consequence of aging, and they could be as simple, um, as catering to that portion of your, your circulatory system.
- JRJoe Rogan
It would be so fascinating to run a study, a long-term study on twins, identical twins, and have one person just eat the standard American diet and the other person-
- GBGary Brecka
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... follow all these protocols, hydrogen gas, fitness, healthy food, no seed oil, no drinking, and just see-
- GBGary Brecka
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... what, what do they look like after 20 years-
- GBGary Brecka
10 years.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GBGary Brecka
Yeah, or 20 years.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GBGary Brecka
20 years would be wild.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wild. Yeah.
- 1:00:00 – 1:13:36
Just the bag. …
- GBGary Brecka
- JRJoe Rogan
Just the bag.
- GBGary Brecka
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh, and it's sealed.
- GBGary Brecka
Give me the bag. I'll do the bag.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just take a sniff of the bag. Ugh.
- GBGary Brecka
This is so wrong.
- JRJoe Rogan
It is wrong.
- GBGary Brecka
I feel so dirty.Oh, my God! Dude!
- JRJoe Rogan
That's nothing. That's nothing. That's just the bag that the smelling salts have been sniffed in.
- GBGary Brecka
Oh! Oh, my God. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
So what powerlifters do is they take a sniff of this shit-
- GBGary Brecka
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... right before they lift weights. You ready? Here we go.
- GBGary Brecka
No. (laughs) I'm not... There's zero chance in hell.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, ho, ho. Whoo!
- GBGary Brecka
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, lordy.
- GBGary Brecka
Dude, there is-
- JRJoe Rogan
Come on, bro.
- GBGary Brecka
... zero chance I'm doing that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Get on in. Get on in, bro. Come on, reach forward.
- GBGary Brecka
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Peer pressure. Take a, get about six inches from the nose, (sniffs) take a haul. (sniffs) It's good for you.
- GBGary Brecka
Ah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I can't guarantee it's good for you.
- GBGary Brecka
Oh, my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no. That was nothing.
- GBGary Brecka
Yo, that got me, dude. That came in from the bottom.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, you're such a baby. Come on, you're a biohacker. You're a real man. Get in there. Take a sniff. Real sniff.
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