Joe Rogan Experience #2306 - Deric Poston

1. 0:00 – 2:23

   Hasan’s haircut, gym shenanigans, and how friends keep you working

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (dramatic music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music)

   3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      So we were just looking at Hasan in the security cameras in the fucking gym with his stupid haircut.

   5. NANarrator0:18

      (laughs)

   6. DPDeric Poston0:18

      (laughs)

   7. NANarrator0:18

      Why does he keep looking at ... (laughs) He looks so crazy.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Our friend Hasan, hilarious dude.

   9. DPDeric Poston0:22

      One of the best. One of the best.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       He's fantastic.

   11. DPDeric Poston0:24

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       And getting better, man.

   13. DPDeric Poston0:25

       Ugh.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       All the s- all the time. He's, he's a guy who's always working.

   15. DPDeric Poston0:28

       Nobody writes more new stuff.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       He writes a lot.

   17. DPDeric Poston0:30

       He, that guy-

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Writes a lot.

   19. DPDeric Poston0:32

       ... puts me on my ass, 'cause I always ... You know, we've been, we've been best friends for the last 12 years, so I've been watching him this whole time. And since we met, him and Brian Simpson, they put you to work.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Yeah. That's important, 'cause if your friends are slacking, you're like, "All right."

   21. DPDeric Poston0:43

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       "I'll slack off too."

   23. DPDeric Poston0:44

       Yeah. Or you feel like-

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yeah.

   25. DPDeric Poston0:45

       ... "Oh man, I'm better than my friends." But when your friends are like, "Oh, f-"

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Yeah.

   27. DPDeric Poston0:47

       Every time I see him I'm like, "Dude, I saw you yesterday. You have two new bits?" Like-

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Yeah.

   29. DPDeric Poston0:51

       "And they're good?"

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Yeah.
2. 2:23 – 4:11

   Training culture: kettlebells, cold plunge fear, and ‘psycho’ workout coaches

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:23

      I love when I come here and you two guys are in the gym. And you're, you're by yourselves.

   2. DPDeric Poston2:27

      Connectors.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:27

      No one's pushing you. I love it. I love it.

   4. DPDeric Poston2:30

      The only thing I ... 'Cause I ... We do every single thing that, that we did back when we were working out, but other than some days that c- we look at that cold plunge. We're like, "Joe, you're a fucking psycho."

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:38

      (laughs)

   6. DPDeric Poston2:38

      "Get the fuck outta here, dude." (laughs) Not getting in cold water for you today.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:42

      For real. I'm down to work out tomorrow if you guys wanna do it.

   8. DPDeric Poston2:44

      Of course.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:44

      All right. Let's do it.

   10. DPDeric Poston2:45

       Hell yeah. We'll get a-

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:46

       Yeah.

   12. DPDeric Poston2:46

       ... good old school winning.

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:47

       Yeah. We'll get a old school win.

   14. DPDeric Poston2:48

       I'll get in the cold plunge. If you're, if we're, if we're all doing it, that's, I need the, we all to be doing it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:51

       So my friend Sean, who, uh, trained Alex Jones, is now training Shane. He's gonna start training Shane.

   16. DPDeric Poston2:58

       I heard about, he puts him through gauntlets.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:59

       I told Sh- I told Shane, I said, "Don't let him kill you."

   18. DPDeric Poston3:01

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:01

       "Don't let him kill you."

   20. DPDeric Poston3:02

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:03

       So it makes you back him off a little in the beginning. (laughs)

   22. DPDeric Poston3:06

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:06

       These fucking psychopaths.

   24. DPDeric Poston3:07

       Yeah. I remember when Hasan did it with him the first time, Sean ... He got him to do it. I couldn't ... I was out of town with Schultz, and Hasan called me and goes, "Bro, I threw up twice."

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:14

       (laughs)

   26. DPDeric Poston3:15

       And I go, "At the end?" He goes, "No, at the beginning." (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:17

       (laughs)

   28. DPDeric Poston3:17

       I was like, "Bro, get the fuck outta here."

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:18

       You gotta build up to that kinda stuff. That's the thing, like, Sean's in great shape. You know, and some peo- ... You know, if you're, if you're used to, like, coaching Navy Seals, and you're like, "Come on, pussy. We gotta go." You know, like, "Carry the fucking log."

   30. DPDeric Poston3:32

       Yeah.
3. 4:11 – 8:01

   When a look becomes a brand: Theo Von’s hair, stage freedom, and comic ‘identity’

   1. DPDeric Poston4:11

      But when h- ... He ... I will never forget this. One night, I'm working the back door of the Comedy Store, and this is when Theo Von had just ... He went from, he went from a guy we all knew to he's now Theo Von.

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:20

      Mm.

   3. DPDeric Poston4:20

      And I'm sitting back there, and he pulled in, and we're just kinda hanging at the back door. And he goes, "Derek, let me tell you something, man."

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:26

      (laughs)

   5. NANarrator4:28

      (laughs)

   6. DPDeric Poston4:28

      (laughs) Thank you. He goes, "I was getting 2,000 a weekend before this hair. Since this mullet, I get about 40K a weekend." And walked off. (laughs) And I was like, "Man, what the f-"

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:36

      Whoa. What was he gonna say?

   8. DPDeric Poston4:36

      Am I supposed to get a m- ... Yeah. Am I ... I literally was like, "I don't know what I'm supposed to do." (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:40

      You know what, though? It's true, but it's not true. So it's true that when the haircut came, he got more money on the weekend. But it's also like the haircut freed him to be Theo Von.

   10. DPDeric Poston4:53

       I agree.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:54

       Like, do you remember when Theo ... I remember very clearly the first time I ever saw Theo and he was doing a bit about being a ... Not even a bit. He was telling a story, a true story, about when he was his, when he was young, his father was really old. Like his father had him when he was, like, 70.

   12. DPDeric Poston5:11

       Uh, yes.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:11

       Yeah. Something crazy. And he said he remembers being on acid lying next to his father while ... And realize his father's just dying.

   14. DPDeric Poston5:21

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:21

       You know what I mean?

   16. DPDeric Poston5:21

       That's funny.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:21

       It's like if you've ever been around someone who's, like-

   18. DPDeric Poston5:24

       Really dying.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:24

       ... 100 years old.

   20. DPDeric Poston5:25

       Oh, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:26

       They feel like there's no life force in them.

   22. DPDeric Poston5:29

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:30

       Like the life force-

   24. DPDeric Poston5:30

       And they're almost trapped in their mind.

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:31

       ... is slipping away.

   26. DPDeric Poston5:31

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:31

       You could ... Yeah. And he's on acid lying next to him. I was like, "Whoa. This guy's weird."

   28. DPDeric Poston5:36

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:36

       Like, "What a, what a weird set."

   30. DPDeric Poston5:37

       Yeah.
4. 8:01 – 12:12

   Masters of ‘being themselves’: Bill Burr, Dave Attell, Colin Quinn, and greatness without bitterness

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:01

      He- well, he- Bill is also amazing at being Bill. Like, you know- like, he has, he has his opinions, his- what he thinks is stupid about something, and he's just, like, locked in.

   2. DPDeric Poston8:16

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:16

      You know what I mean? Like, there's no- like, some comics, like, you'll see one of their hours and it's kind of, like, one kind of energy, and then the other th- hour, it's, like, kind of a different kind of energy. With Bill Burr, it's Bill Burr. I'm Bill Burr.

   4. DPDeric Poston8:29

      That's a great point.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:29

      I'm Bill Burr. He knows how to be Bill Burr. He's professionally Bill Burr.

   6. DPDeric Poston8:33

      That's a great point.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:34

      You know what I mean? Like, a lot of people couldn't even do his material. It would just, like- wouldn't work.

   8. DPDeric Poston8:39

      No, and it'd- it would sound-

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:40

      Horrible.

   10. DPDeric Poston8:40

       Like hateful.

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:41

       Yeah. (laughs)

   12. DPDeric Poston8:41

       Like this guy fucking hates the world, dude.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:43

       But that's just the magic of becoming, you know, you, right? Like, there's a few- like, a Attell is the absolute best at it.

   14. DPDeric Poston8:51

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:51

       Attell has a timing and a presence, and then the material, the way it's written, like, a lot of it on paper you'd be like, "What is this?"

   16. DPDeric Poston9:01

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:01

       "I don't understand how this would be funny." But you see him do it in real life, you're like, "Oh my God." You're just crying.

   18. DPDeric Poston9:07

       Yeah. And when the crowd is more raucous, he- he's better.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:10

       He's in on the corniness of some of the stuff, too, which makes it even more fun. It's, like, there's many layers to it, and, you know, some of it is just, like, just brilliant observations on things. Some of them, it is com- completely ridiculous, you know. It's like-

   20. DPDeric Poston9:25

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:25

       ... it's just all, but it's woven into Dave Attell. You know what I mean?

   22. DPDeric Poston9:29

       And he'll pull out a re- fucking recorder.

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:30

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   24. DPDeric Poston9:31

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:31

       He starts playing the flute. (laughs)

   26. DPDeric Poston9:32

       Yeah. (laughs) It's crazy.

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:34

       Bro, when we saw him live, I was so-

   28. DPDeric Poston9:36

       Y-

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:36

       ... fucking impressed.

   30. DPDeric Poston9:37

       At the Mothership.
5. 12:12 – 14:40

   Why live standup feels like hypnosis—and how different creators ‘write’

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:12

      Yeah, he could kill. There's some- there's some magic to that thing. I think that's hypnosis. I've always thought that. I've been th- like, for a long time, at least. I- I'm like, "What is happening to me when someone's on stage and they're killing?" You know, like when Shane-

   2. DPDeric Poston12:26

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:26

      ... when Shane's on fire. What is happening to me? I think I'm, like, locked in with their mind. I don't think it's as simple as I'm watching a show or something like that because ...... I l- love, like, watching a funny movie, you know, Tropic Thunder or something like that.

   4. DPDeric Poston12:41

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:41

      I love laughing watching a funny movie. But I don't feel the same way I feel when a guy is in front of me on stage doing standup. And I think as great as specials are, they're never ... They're like 60 to 70% of being there live.

   6. DPDeric Poston12:57

      Yes.

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:58

      Always.

   8. DPDeric Poston12:58

      Every time.

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:59

      'Cause I think there's something about being there live that's like ... It's hypnosis. There's something going on where that, that person's making me think the way they think.

   10. DPDeric Poston13:08

       Yeah. Yeah, when someone brings you into their world-

   11. JRJoe Rogan13:10

       Yeah.

   12. DPDeric Poston13:10

       And like you said, you're just living in it, and you're not even thinking about you're, you're just like, "I'm living in this guy's-

   13. JRJoe Rogan13:15

       Exactly.

   14. DPDeric Poston13:15

       ... essence right now."

   15. JRJoe Rogan13:16

       Exactly. You're, you're living in this person's imagination and this person's work, right? 'Cause they, like they set this set up.

   16. DPDeric Poston13:23

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan13:24

       And they danced it around in their head and they wrote it down on paper. That's the other interesting thing about what we do is like no one has a, there's no like one way to do it. I always say my way to do it, but you know, I don't think Bill writes shit down. I think he keeps it all in his head.

   18. DPDeric Poston13:39

       (exhales)

   19. JRJoe Rogan13:39

       Yeah. Dave mostly keeps it all in his head too.

   20. DPDeric Poston13:41

       Schultz does that too.

   21. JRJoe Rogan13:42

       Yeah. The, uh-

   22. DPDeric Poston13:43

       It's insane wh-

   23. JRJoe Rogan13:43

       Like that's the Jay-Z thing too, right?

   24. DPDeric Poston13:45

       Yeah. Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan13:46

       Jay-Z kept it all in his head.

   26. DPDeric Poston13:46

       Lil Wayne, they didn't, they just, it was just-

   27. JRJoe Rogan13:48

       Yeah.

   28. DPDeric Poston13:48

       I mean, it's insane. They're releasing ... It's not like they're releasing one album.

   29. JRJoe Rogan13:51

       But who's the best writer? Nas.

   30. DPDeric Poston13:54

       (exhales)
6. 14:40 – 20:34

   Andrew Schulz’s on-the-road genius: researching locals, instant arena material, and pandemic innovation

   1. DPDeric Poston14:40

      Yeah, it's impressive to watch the different ways people do it. I mean, I'm biased 'cause I'm tour, I tour with him. But man, when I'm out with fucking Schultzy, dude, 'cause people just see him come up with that 10 minutes up top, you know, like, "We'll go, we'll go to Abu Dhabi," and he-

   2. JRJoe Rogan14:52

      (laughs)

   3. DPDeric Poston14:53

      You just see it, right ?

   4. NANarrator14:54

      (laughs)

   5. DPDeric Poston14:54

      But man, you know, people, I get to see how he gets there.

   6. JRJoe Rogan14:57

      Mm-hmm.

   7. DPDeric Poston14:57

      And it's bea- ... He gets to town, and no matter where we are, and all he does is he just talks to people and he doesn't say anything. He just, he, he gets a random person who's lived in wherever we're at for a long time and he just lets him, and you can just, and you just see him. Kinda like, and his eyes will light up when somebody says a certain thing.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      Oh.

   9. DPDeric Poston15:12

      And his eyes will light up and he's like, "Oh, okay. Oh, that's going on? Oh, then what do they think of this? So what are the ti-" And he'll ask a couple questions.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:18

       Yeah.

   11. DPDeric Poston15:19

       He'll do it, and I'm not talking about 30 minutes, Joe. He'll talk to somebody for three, four hours before the show.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       Mm-hmm.

   13. DPDeric Poston15:23

       And just soak in all the culture and all the information. And then you see him go on stage and it's a full flush 10-minute chunk about a place.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       Joe, he's a special talent.

   15. DPDeric Poston15:33

       That's-

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       He's a special talent.

   17. DPDeric Poston15:34

       Yeah, I've never seen anything like that.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       Yeah, he's very special. And you know, and it's also like you gotta realize he's doing these jokes in front of 16,000 people for the first time. He's got a new joke and he's busting it out in front of 16,000 people about their area.

   19. DPDeric Poston15:49

       Yes.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       Bro, that shit he did in Hawaii about the chickens being so confident.

   21. DPDeric Poston15:52

       Oh my G- (laughs)

   22. NANarrator15:52

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       (laughs)

   24. DPDeric Poston15:54

       Joe, Joe, I was-

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       So good.

   26. DPDeric Poston15:56

       I was the Black guy.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       (laughs)

   28. DPDeric Poston15:57

       We got off the van and he saw the chickens run up to me. He's like, "These chickens are too confident, dog."

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       (laughs)

   30. DPDeric Poston16:02

       He's like, "They, they don't know Derek." And I went dying. And it cut to-
7. 20:34 – 21:50

   Finding ‘the groove’: Kill Tony, loving the job, and standup as constant problem-solving

   1. JRJoe Rogan20:34

      It's sort of like, um, y- y- when you have a muscle to do something, and you do that thing all the time, then you just get better and better and better at doing that thing. And then you get in the groove, like you... like we were talking about like Attell, like Theo, like when someone gets in the groove of who they are, you know?

   2. DPDeric Poston20:48

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan20:49

      Like, like Tony is on Kill Tony, perfect example.

   4. DPDeric Poston20:52

      That's it. Unrealistic.

   5. JRJoe Rogan20:52

      He's locked in. He's in the groove. He's been doing it so long. He knows when to dance and when to pause and-

   6. DPDeric Poston20:59

      Mm-hmm. When to ask a serious question, when to get goofy, when to let the, the c- these are... the panel know. It's pretty impressive, man.

   7. JRJoe Rogan21:04

      If you can find something like that to do in your life, you'll have a much better life than if you just get a job. And I know that's not for... Not everybody can, but if you can, you definitely should.

   8. DPDeric Poston21:18

      Yeah, dude.

   9. JRJoe Rogan21:19

      Yeah. You definitely should do that.

   10. DPDeric Poston21:21

       Being excited for every day and nervous and a- anxious and, and always just b- That feeling, I mean, I... To not have it, I can't believe people go... I don't... I get having... You gotta go to work, you gotta make money, but the idea of like, man, never that feeling of anxiety and looking forward to something and... And, and it not going the way you planned.

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       Right.

   12. DPDeric Poston21:38

       And so you gotta go the next day and figure out what went wrong.

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:40

       Yeah.

   14. DPDeric Poston21:40

       And like, I love that. That's what I love about standup, the figuring it out, the math of it all.

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:45

       Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a great job, man. We're so fucking lucky.

   16. DPDeric Poston21:48

       Yeah, dude.

   17. JRJoe Rogan21:49

       We're so lucky.

8. 21:50 – 28:31

   Joke theft, false memory, and Damon Wayans’ legacy (plus In Living Color’s cultural ripple)

   1. DPDeric Poston21:50

      God, you've been in it long enough to see everybody. Did you see this thing Damon Wayans said about you?

   2. JRJoe Rogan21:54

      Yeah. He said I stole one of my jokes. (laughs)

   3. DPDeric Poston21:56

      Yeah. (laughs) I was gonna talk to you about that. But the way he said it, I've never seen someone say I stole a joke, and I... He was like, "Man, I... I got..." He said, "I saw it, and then I ac- realized I stole Joe's joke, and I was like, oh, I gotta stop watching motherfuckers."

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:06

      Yeah.

   5. DPDeric Poston22:06

      It just stuck in the back of his head. But I know you give him his flowers, so I was like, oh, no, the guy's not a joke thief. Like...

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:11

      No, no, no, no. That happens, man. Sometimes you, you think you came up with it, but somebody else did, and you heard it, and you forgot. That can definitely... Especially if it's a subject that you never cover and time has passed, and then th- the subject comes up, like something comes up and you, you're like... And it almost... Like, David tells the best at that. He'll call you up, because you have to check sometimes. Like, "Hey, have you heard this?" (exhales) You know, like you have... He's the best at that. Dave does that all the time. Like, you gotta check every now and then. Like, this one seems too easy, because the memory is weird. You know, memory is weird.

   7. DPDeric Poston22:44

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:44

      You ever go back to like your old neighborhood where you grew up and you're like, "This house is way smaller than I thought it was."

   9. DPDeric Poston22:49

      It was a mansion. (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:49

       This house is different.

   11. DPDeric Poston22:50

       (laughs) Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:50

       The driveway is different. Everything's different. Looks weird. You know, your memory is shitty. It's good. I mean, it, it keeps you from fucking picking up the wrong spider.

   13. DPDeric Poston22:59

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:59

       But, you know what I mean? It's, it's not, it's not a photographic representation of reality. And that's a problem.

   15. DPDeric Poston23:06

       And you guys have been doing standup 20 years and how many bits have you seen just...

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:09

       Yeah. Seen too many bits. Yeah. So you can... And then, you know, there's parallel thinking. There's a lot. But you know when someone's a thief and Damon's not a thief. I always said that Damon may... He might be one of the most underappreciated comics ever.

   17. DPDeric Poston23:23

       Yeah, dude.

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:23

       Because like when he was in his prime, you gotta realize, he was like... You know, if you're looking at today, he was like Chappelle. He was like in this... That same level of recognition as being like one of the best guys alive.

   19. DPDeric Poston23:35

       Wow. Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:35

       But then they got him with those TV shows, man.

   21. DPDeric Poston23:37

       And movies. He wanted to be a movie star.

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:38

       Yeah. He was Last Boy Scout. He was gonna be a movie star.

   23. DPDeric Poston23:40

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:40

       He did that big Bruce Willis movie.

   25. DPDeric Poston23:41

       Bruce Willis. Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan23:42

       And it was a good movie.

   27. DPDeric Poston23:43

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan23:43

       And then it looked like he was gonna be a movie star after that.

   29. DPDeric Poston23:46

       I mean, he had some great... Like Blankman where he's a retarded superhero.

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:48

       Oh, my God. That was so ridiculous.
9. 28:31 – 37:24

   Fame, promotion, and ‘velvet prisons’: social media poison, Steve Martin, and Ron White in Austin

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:31

      talking about him only. Oh. Word of mouth only. Like a secret. His social media's hot garbage. (laughs) He's got a flip phone- He's got a flip phone. ... and he f- and he p- he t- texts you with the do, do, do, do. (laughs) He's gotta press four times to get a R or whatever the fuck it is. (laughs) You know? It's so stupid. It's so stupid. And it's crazy he does it like that. It's crazy he does it like that. Like, why did he do it like that? 'Cause he could be on the internet more. He... I mean, I remember when he had- Or- ... that show, Insomniac. That's when I first saw him. But he's... Let me throw this at you, because I've been trying to stay off social media more and more every day, like, a little less every day. And the more I do it, the better I feel. It's like not being poisoned. It really is. It's like getting away from a poison that you didn't know was a poison, like some, like, forever plastics in your Starbucks cup or something. You know? Yeah. Like, I, I quit those Starbucks cups, and all the sudden, I... You know what I mean? It's like- Yeah. ... something like that. Like, I dr- I quit drinking tap water, and all of a sudden, I can think better. You know? (laughs) Steve Martin sold- Oh, that's right. ... 45,000 tickets in '78. Oh my God, that's right. You know, um... I don't know if anybody else before that. We always... People forget about him. I forgot about Steve Martin. W- I forgot about Steve Martin for two reasons. One, uh, 'cause Steve Martin was a little different. He was doing standup, but it was a lot of songs, and it was... You know what I mean? Yeah. He, he was great, by the way. Like, Let's Get Small is phenomenal. But I think he got to a point where comedy became too easy because ev- and so he didn't know what was funny anymore because everybody loved him so much, and he stopped doing standup, which is really weird. Wow. Probably didn't have good friends. Yeah, 'cause if- 'Cause if he had good friends, we would've grabbed them like we grabbed Ron White. (laughs) 'Cause like- Remember when Ron White was trying to quit? ... retired. Yeah, like, what are you talking about? He was like, "I'm gonna retire." Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Why would you do that? Yeah. Why would you do that? Isn't comedy fun? Yeah. He's like- Yeah, it is. ... "Keep... So keep doing fun things." God. What the fuck is wrong with you? Like, I, I've, I can't believe I have to give him this advice. (laughs) I'm like, "You're Ron White. How are you thinking about cr- how could you wi- how much fun are you having when you killing up there?" But I think that was the drinking thing, too, man. Yeah, he's sober now. Yeah. It was drinking and it was also, he needed a tribe. You know? And he had the tribe a little bit when he was in California, you know, but he was always on the road a lot, you know, and he just decided that being in the center of the country was better. So, he was like patient zero of the Austin revolution. Yeah. Like, a lot of people think it was me, but it was really Ron, because I came here knowing that Ron was here. I was like, "At the very least, Ron's here." You know? It's two of us. I'm like, "I'm not living like this in California. You're not doing this to me. I know what you're doing." I was, uh... Like, the, the, the, the fucking caged animal in me was like, "I'm getting out." (laughs) "This is not... This is gonna go sideways. I'm not gonna be a part of this." Yeah. "Fuck you." Then I go, "Okay, at least Ron's there." I was like, "My life is gonna be worse than it ever was before. My life is gonna be... All my friends are gone, they're not here."... I'm in the middle of the country, maybe I'll see him every now and then, maybe I'll have to book shows to see them, but at least Ron's here. That's, that's what I decided.

   2. DPDeric Poston31:23

      Patient zero.

   3. JRJoe Rogan31:24

      Yeah. He was patient zero. So, you know-

   4. DPDeric Poston31:26

      And now he hangs out every night.

   5. JRJoe Rogan31:27

      ... and we get, we get Ron every night. Oh, it's bea- he's lovely.

   6. DPDeric Poston31:30

      He's the b- (laughs) the object (laughs) -

   7. JRJoe Rogan31:31

      He's lovely. He's lovely.

   8. DPDeric Poston31:32

      We were hanging one time, this is my favorite Ron story. And it's me, it's just me, you, and Ron in the green room, and you gifted him a really nice Rolex, and you guys were having a sweet moment, and I, I couldn't believe I was there to see, and I was like, "Damn, this is really cool." And you gifted it to him and y'all were having a conversation, I'm like, "Wow." And he takes off his Rolex and he tossed it to me. He goes, "There you go, Derrick." And I go, "Holy shit, Ron, for real?" He says, "Fuck no, bro."

   9. JRJoe Rogan31:55

      (laughs)

   10. DPDeric Poston31:55

       "Give me my Rolex back. (laughs) Get my Rolex back, you idiot." And then you went, so you go, "That's the most fucked up shit I've ever seen, Ron." (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan32:03

       I forgot about that joke right now. (laughs)

   12. DPDeric Poston32:04

       He was most evil.

   13. JRJoe Rogan32:05

       That was so evil.

   14. DPDeric Poston32:07

       You were, (laughs) you literally were like, "Ron, why would you do that?" (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan32:09

       Well, I thought everybody was just giving out Rolexes up in this bitch.

   16. DPDeric Poston32:12

       I, I thought that was gonna be a great moment, and my face was like... (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan32:15

       Ah, that's hilarious. Yeah.

   18. DPDeric Poston32:17

       But he's the man, dude. I, I, I can't believe I'm friends with him, 'cause I, I've been a fan since I was a kid.

   19. JRJoe Rogan32:21

       I know. I feel that same way. Yeah. I feel that way about a lot of guys. Like, I can't believe I'm friends with you. It's nice. It's not... well, that's good, right? You never stop being both a fan and a person who does it.

   20. DPDeric Poston32:33

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan32:33

       I try to separate it. Um, I try to separate me as a comic off-stage versus me as a comic on-stage. I really do. You know, so I can just be a fan.

   22. DPDeric Poston32:43

       Oh, I see what you're saying.

   23. JRJoe Rogan32:44

       You know?

   24. DPDeric Poston32:44

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:44

       Like, um, when I was younger, I used to watch someone going, "Oh, I would do it differently." Like, if they suck, I'll do that. If they suck, I'll go like, "Oh, that premise." Uh, uh, "I think..." Ah, there's something they're not explaining this very well.

   26. DPDeric Poston32:55

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:55

       You know what I mean? I, I start picking it apart that way. But I like to just be a fan. I do- like to just watch, 'cause I think a lot of people are real hesitant to give up flowers, right, as you know-

   28. DPDeric Poston33:07

       Yeah, they are.

   29. JRJoe Rogan33:07

       ... kids like to say.

   30. DPDeric Poston33:07

       Yeah.
10. 37:24 – 49:56

    From bullied kid to Taekwondo teacher: Joe’s fighting path, fear, and why street fights are a trap

    1. DPDeric Poston37:24

       Did you ever have any ambition to go pro, to take it to the next level, or-

    2. JRJoe Rogan37:27

       Yeah, but there was no money. I remember I got offered $500 to do a kickboxing fight.... and, uh... There was... So if I did that kickboxing fight, I couldn't fight amateur anymore. And I was like, "$500, so then I can't..." Like, if I ever decided to, like, try to compete in the Olympics again, 'cause I was trying to get on the national team to compete in the Olympics. But somewhere along the line (sniffs) I got a little disenchanted with Taekwondo. And one of the ways that it happened is I started kickboxing, and I started getting beat up 'cause my hands were dog shit. So, like, I've, I was really good kicking. But if, if I got into boxing exchanges, I was terrible. My chin was up in the air.

    3. DPDeric Poston38:02

       Mm-hmm.

    4. JRJoe Rogan38:02

       I was fucking swinging punches like a bitch.

    5. DPDeric Poston38:05

       (laughs)

    6. JRJoe Rogan38:05

       It was awful. I could hit really hard. If I hit you, you were in trouble.

    7. DPDeric Poston38:08

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan38:08

       But it was not good. And so I realized like, "Oh, there's a giant flaw in this, like, for actual real fights. There's a giant flaw in this." And as soon as I started kickboxing, particularly, I had this friend of mine who was a really good boxer, Dana Rosenblatt. And he, he was one of my training partners and he became a New England, uh, middleweight champion. He beat, uh, Vinny Pazienza in a decision. He lost to him one fight and then beat him in a decision. He was legit. He knocked out Howard Davis Jr., who was a, uh, Olympic gold medalist. He's a bad motherfucker. And he also, uh, when I was training with him, made me realize that I didn't really want to do this anymore. That I was just doing this because I had done it my whole life, and this was, like, what I decided I was doing. Then I was like, "Not only is there no future in this, there's a lot of brain damage coming my way."

    9. DPDeric Poston38:54

       (laughs)

    10. JRJoe Rogan38:54

        Like, 100% I'm getting it right now. And, uh, you know, just sparring with Dana, me and him sparring, we... I don't know how many times we sparred, but we would beat the fuck out of each other, dude.

    11. DPDeric Poston39:03

        Damn, really?

    12. JRJoe Rogan39:04

        Oh. Oh, it was horrible. Yeah, I'd go home with headaches.

    13. DPDeric Poston39:08

        (laughs)

    14. JRJoe Rogan39:09

        He... And, and if we were, uh, in boxing range, he was tuning me up, so I was always trying to stay on the outside 'cause h- his hands were way better than mine. But we cracked each other. Oh.

    15. DPDeric Poston39:18

        You and Dana White would fight? (laughs)

    16. JRJoe Rogan39:19

        No, no, no, no. My friend Dana Rosenblatt.

    17. DPDeric Poston39:21

        Okay, I was like-

    18. JRJoe Rogan39:21

        No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

    19. DPDeric Poston39:22

        ... Yeah, I heard Dana, and I was like, "Who the hell is Dana?"

    20. JRJoe Rogan39:23

        But if me and Dana were friends, we would do that too.

    21. DPDeric Poston39:26

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan39:26

        Like I, I sparred with a lot of my friends. We beat the shit out of each other. (laughs)

    23. DPDeric Poston39:29

        (laughs)

    24. JRJoe Rogan39:29

        It was horrible. But that's how you... What you have to do. You know what the beautiful thing about jujitsu is, above kickboxing, is you, you don't have this, kinda, animosity with your sparring partners because, like, if you... If you're in a good gym, um, in kickboxing, you're always hurting each other. And he's like, even if you love a guy and you spar with him, you're always hurting each other.

    25. DPDeric Poston39:48

        Okay.

    26. JRJoe Rogan39:48

        So you always have this thing where you're like, "Fuck that dude. That dude gave me a fucking headache." (laughs)

    27. DPDeric Poston39:52

        (laughs)

    28. JRJoe Rogan39:53

        You know what I mean? You think about getting him back. Like, you think about it. He cracked you with a left hook, and you're like, "I am gonna get him back."

    29. DPDeric Poston39:59

        Okay.

    30. JRJoe Rogan39:59

        "I can't wait to get him back." Whereas with jujitsu, you can't wait to tap somebody, but you're not hurting each other. You know, if you get hurt, it's an accident. The, the injuries in jujitsu are usually either strain related or, you know, you didn't tap, right? It's either-
11. 49:56 – 1:01:31

    Honey scams, mad honey, and the case for legal mushrooms (and politicians microdosing)

    1. NANarrator49:56

       They're so good.

    2. DPDeric Poston49:56

       Oh my God. And then just, like, 'cause you stopped, you told me the other day you haven't been drinking again. You stopped drinking, right?

    3. JRJoe Rogan50:00

       That's been, yeah, been more than a month now.

    4. DPDeric Poston50:02

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan50:02

       A month and some weeks.

    6. DPDeric Poston50:04

       You walked in and you were like, "Three weeks off, boys." I was like, "Jesus fuck, dude."

    7. JRJoe Rogan50:08

       (laughs)

    8. DPDeric Poston50:08

       This is incredible.

    9. JRJoe Rogan50:08

       Bro, all, I had all this fucking side fat and belly fat that just went away. But most importantly, I just feel better. Like I never have days where I'm recovering from being drunk. Like I sound like shit now because I have allergies, which is hilarious 'cause I always made fun of people. I was like, they're like, "Yeah, in three to five years, you'll get allergies." I'm like, "Shut up, pussy."

    10. DPDeric Poston50:29

        (laughs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan50:29

        I'm not getting these fucking bitch ass allergies you guys get. Now, here I am. (sniffs) Ugh.

    12. DPDeric Poston50:35

        Yeah. See you wiping your eyes. (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan50:36

        Yeah. It's so annoying. It's so annoying f- for everybody to be right. (laughs)

    14. DPDeric Poston50:45

        (laughs) Oh, yeah. My wife gets me on that honey, natural. If you get honey from a local honey-

    15. JRJoe Rogan50:50

        Mm-hmm.

    16. DPDeric Poston50:50

        ... it gets rid of your allergies.

    17. JRJoe Rogan50:51

        I've heard that too, but, uh, the lady that we had in here that was a beekeeper says it's bullshit.

    18. DPDeric Poston50:56

        Fuck.

    19. JRJoe Rogan50:56

        Yeah. Not only that, she said most honey that, like, not most. She said a lot of honey that you buy in the store is not really honey. Yeah, they, they fuck you. They put, like, corn syrup and some fucking this and that and yeah, they've, they've, they have fake honey.

    20. DPDeric Poston51:11

        Fuck, man.

    21. JRJoe Rogan51:11

        Isn't that crazy?

    22. DPDeric Poston51:12

        Is anything real?

    23. JRJoe Rogan51:13

        Isn't that crazy?

    24. DPDeric Poston51:13

        Why would they do that?

    25. JRJoe Rogan51:15

        China.

    26. DPDeric Poston51:16

        (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan51:16

        They're getting us.

    28. DPDeric Poston51:17

        (laughs)

    29. JRJoe Rogan51:18

        They're like, "These dummies, they're not gonna check." (laughs)

    30. DPDeric Poston51:20

        They're not gonna check. (laughs) Because it's like-
12. 1:01:31 – 1:06:03

    Lyrics that don’t age well: The Rolling Stones’ ‘Brown Sugar’ and cultural hindsight

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:01:31

       Like if you're The Rolling Stones, you could still sing Brown Sugar. Nope. Can't sing it anymore.

    2. DPDeric Poston1:01:37

       (laughs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:01:37

       Can't sing that one.

    4. DPDeric Poston1:01:38

       No, wait a minute.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:01:39

       They don't sing Brown Sugar anymore.

    6. DPDeric Poston1:01:40

       No. Come on.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:01:41

       Bro, you ever listen- see the lyrics to Brown Sugar?

    8. DPDeric Poston1:01:44

       What are the actual lyrics?

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:01:45

       Oh.

    10. DPDeric Poston1:01:47

        What is it, Joseph? (laughs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:01:49

        There's a reason why they don't sing it anymore. It's a great song, don't get me wrong. It's still on my Spotify playlist.

    12. DPDeric Poston1:01:53

        (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:54

        But if you... I think it... I might've pulled it out. I might've got scared.... wait till you see the lyrics.

    14. DPDeric Poston1:01:59

        That playlist is crazy long.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:02:00

        It's great. Yeah, the playlist is-

    16. DPDeric Poston1:02:01

        Oh, we get, we get turnt up in there.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:02:03

        I, we do. I think that playlist is, like, 35 hours long now. Let me see.

    18. DPDeric Poston1:02:07

        (laughs) You keep adding to it.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:02:08

        I keep adding to it.

    20. DPDeric Poston1:02:09

        You keep adding to it. (laughs)

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:02:09

        I love it. Yeah.

    22. DPDeric Poston1:02:10

        'Cause every once in a while, I look up-

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:02:11

        33. 33 hours and 49 minutes.

    24. DPDeric Poston1:02:14

        Yeah. I love it when we're in there, and then I'll, I'll be like, "Who the fuck is playing this?" And I look up, you're just like...

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:02:18

        (laughs)

    26. DPDeric Poston1:02:18

        (laughs) And it's like, "Joe, who, who got you on the Black Panther album?"

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:22

        (laughs)

    28. DPDeric Poston1:02:22

        Or whoever the... You'll just listen to some random shit. (laughs) "Hey, who got you on this?"

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:25

        Oh, yeah, I love a good random shit. Like, if I'm in a bar and s-... I hear some cool random song, I love, like... That's why I love that Shazam app.

    30. DPDeric Poston1:02:33

        Ooh, that's-

Episode duration: 2:54:30