Joe Rogan Experience #2306 - Deric Poston

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Joe Rogan 0:12 So we were just looking at Hasan in the security cameras in the fucking gym with his stupid haircut.

Narrator 0:18 (laughs)

Deric Poston 0:18 (laughs)

Narrator 0:18 Why does he keep looking at ... (laughs) He looks so crazy.

Joe Rogan 0:20 Our friend Hasan, hilarious dude.

Deric Poston 0:22 One of the best. One of the best.

Joe Rogan 0:23 He's fantastic.

Deric Poston 0:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:24 And getting better, man.

Deric Poston 0:25 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 0:25 All the s- all the time. He's, he's a guy who's always working.

Deric Poston 0:28 Nobody writes more new stuff.

Joe Rogan 0:30 He writes a lot.

Deric Poston 0:30 He, that guy-

Joe Rogan 0:31 Writes a lot.

Deric Poston 0:32 ... puts me on my ass, 'cause I always ... You know, we've been, we've been best friends for the last 12 years, so I've been watching him this whole time. And since we met, him and Brian Simpson, they put you to work.

Joe Rogan 0:40 Yeah. That's important, 'cause if your friends are slacking, you're like, "All right."

Deric Poston 0:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:43 "I'll slack off too."

Deric Poston 0:44 Yeah. Or you feel like-

Joe Rogan 0:45 Yeah.

Deric Poston 0:45 ... "Oh man, I'm better than my friends." But when your friends are like, "Oh, f-"

Joe Rogan 0:47 Yeah.

Deric Poston 0:47 Every time I see him I'm like, "Dude, I saw you yesterday. You have two new bits?" Like-

Joe Rogan 0:51 Yeah.

Deric Poston 0:51 "And they're good?"

Joe Rogan 0:52 Yeah.

Deric Poston 0:52 Like, "How the fuck?"

Joe Rogan 0:53 But his, one of his bits is his fucking hair. (laughs)

Deric Poston 0:56 (laughs)

Narrator 0:58 (laughs)

Deric Poston 0:59 It's Hinchcliffe's fault. Hinchcliffe fucking keeps encouraging, like, "Keep it going. Keep it going."

Joe Rogan 1:02 (laughs) Look how, he does-

Deric Poston 1:03 Dude.

Joe Rogan 1:03 ... encourage it.

Deric Poston 1:04 And I told you, he's getting mad pussy with the hair. It's just-

Joe Rogan 1:06 Shh. Don't say that.

Deric Poston 1:07 Oh, he's single.

Joe Rogan 1:08 I was gonna say, it'll fuck up his pussy.

Deric Poston 1:09 No. (laughs) You're right. You're right. You're right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:11 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Deric Poston 1:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:11 "I heard you're with Faye."

Deric Poston 1:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:13 "You're getting mad pussy."

Deric Poston 1:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:15 "Really?"

Deric Poston 1:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:17 "I thought it w- (laughs) I thought we were having a wonderful ..."

Deric Poston 1:19 Shh.

Joe Rogan 1:19 There's nothing funnier than when your friends-

Deric Poston 1:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:22 ... um, pull you aside to complain about a girl that's, like, putting the cuffs on them.

Deric Poston 1:27 It's the best.

Joe Rogan 1:28 "Why don't you do things? Why don't you ... I heard the haircut. Why don't you even, why don't you cut your hair better so you don't get mad pussy?"

Deric Poston 1:35 (laughs) Yeah. You take comedy serious. He don't take me serious.

Joe Rogan 1:38 Look at him. Look at his hair.

Deric Poston 1:40 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 1:40 Ah. Ha.

Deric Poston 1:41 He's the man. Look how smooth he looks, though. He looks dressed nice.

Joe Rogan 1:44 He does look smooth. He's headlining La Jolla this weekend with you, right?

Deric Poston 1:46 Yeah, yeah. We're doing next week, next Thursday.

Joe Rogan 1:48 Yeah. Oh, next week then.

Deric Poston 1:48 Next Thursday, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:49 Yeah.

Deric Poston 1:49 We're going back.

Joe Rogan 1:50 Nice.

Deric Poston 1:50 And then we're doing the Belly Room too, headlining the Belly Room-

Joe Rogan 1:51 Stop.

Deric Poston 1:51 ... the next night.

Joe Rogan 1:52 Nice.

Deric Poston 1:53 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:53 Fucking La Jolla's one of the best rooms in the world.

Deric Poston 1:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:56 That La Jolla room is fire.

Deric Poston 1:58 If you get it crushing in there-

Joe Rogan 2:00 Oh.

Deric Poston 2:00 ... it's-

Joe Rogan 2:01 It's popping.

Deric Poston 2:01 ... it's a box. It's a literal box.

Joe Rogan 2:03 Yeah.

Deric Poston 2:03 It's a kill box.

Joe Rogan 2:04 And he's cheating with his hair.

Deric Poston 2:05 He's cheating, dude.

Joe Rogan 2:05 He's cheating. The, those, he's ... I wanna say the jokes, but these, these hair jokes are just too good.

Deric Poston 2:10 Well, they go cr- ... People lose their mi-

Joe Rogan 2:11 They lose their mind.

Deric Poston 2:12 I mean, uh-

Joe Rogan 2:12 It's, it's unfortunate because they think he's looks way better with his head shaved.

Deric Poston 2:16 He's a good-looking guy.

Joe Rogan 2:17 He is a good-looking guy.

Deric Poston 2:18 And since you've go- got him in the gym, he's, his-

Joe Rogan 2:20 Yeah.

Deric Poston 2:20 ... chest is filled out, his bi- his, his back's straighter.

Joe Rogan 2:23 I love when I come here and you two guys are in the gym. And you're, you're by yourselves.

Deric Poston 2:27 Connectors.

Joe Rogan 2:27 No one's pushing you. I love it. I love it.

Deric Poston 2:30 The only thing I ... 'Cause I ... We do every single thing that, that we did back when we were working out, but other than some days that c- we look at that cold plunge. We're like, "Joe, you're a fucking psycho."

Joe Rogan 2:38 (laughs)

Deric Poston 2:38 "Get the fuck outta here, dude." (laughs) Not getting in cold water for you today.

Joe Rogan 2:42 For real. I'm down to work out tomorrow if you guys wanna do it.

Deric Poston 2:44 Of course.

Joe Rogan 2:44 All right. Let's do it.

Deric Poston 2:45 Hell yeah. We'll get a-

Joe Rogan 2:46 Yeah.

Deric Poston 2:46 ... good old school winning.

Joe Rogan 2:47 Yeah. We'll get a old school win.

Deric Poston 2:48 I'll get in the cold plunge. If you're, if we're, if we're all doing it, that's, I need the, we all to be doing it.

Joe Rogan 2:51 So my friend Sean, who, uh, trained Alex Jones, is now training Shane. He's gonna start training Shane.

Deric Poston 2:58 I heard about, he puts him through gauntlets.

Joe Rogan 2:59 I told Sh- I told Shane, I said, "Don't let him kill you."

Deric Poston 3:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:01 "Don't let him kill you."

Deric Poston 3:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:03 So it makes you back him off a little in the beginning. (laughs)

Deric Poston 3:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:06 These fucking psychopaths.

Deric Poston 3:07 Yeah. I remember when Hasan did it with him the first time, Sean ... He got him to do it. I couldn't ... I was out of town with Schultz, and Hasan called me and goes, "Bro, I threw up twice."

Joe Rogan 3:14 (laughs)

Deric Poston 3:15 And I go, "At the end?" He goes, "No, at the beginning." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:17 (laughs)

Deric Poston 3:17 I was like, "Bro, get the fuck outta here."

Joe Rogan 3:18 You gotta build up to that kinda stuff. That's the thing, like, Sean's in great shape. You know, and some peo- ... You know, if you're, if you're used to, like, coaching Navy Seals, and you're like, "Come on, pussy. We gotta go." You know, like, "Carry the fucking log."

Deric Poston 3:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:32 "Who's gonna carry the boats?" That's one thing. But when you're a guy like Shane and you're on a workout, on again, off again, on again, off again, like, you can't hurt the guy. Like, you gotta, like, start slow.

Deric Poston 3:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:44 Like, when we w- when we started working out, what we'd do, start slow.

Deric Poston 3:47 Real slow. I mean, you were teaching us how to use the kettlebells.

Joe Rogan 3:49 Exactly.

Deric Poston 3:49 Let alone going super hard at it.

Joe Rogan 3:51 Exactly.

Deric Poston 3:51 Whereas now, you know, me and Hasan have upped our weight 'cause now we've, we've done it so many, like-

Joe Rogan 3:55 Oh. Tomorrow's-

Deric Poston 3:56 ... the rhythm of kettlebells.

Joe Rogan 3:56 ... gonna be fun. Tomorrow's gonna be fun.

Deric Poston 3:56 Oh, dude. I'm excited for tomorrow. Yeah. But, uh, y- ... I was gonna tell you this about Hasan's hair.

Narrator 4:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:03 (laughs)

Deric Poston 4:03 That's back to it. We're seeing him with a security camera going, "What the fuck are you doing, bro?"

Narrator 4:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:06 I literally, I could just, I was like, "He looks like a fucking psycho." (laughs)

Deric Poston 4:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:08 "I can't believe it." And people love it. They love it.

Deric Poston 4:11 But when h- ... He ... I will never forget this. One night, I'm working the back door of the Comedy Store, and this is when Theo Von had just ... He went from, he went from a guy we all knew to he's now Theo Von.

Joe Rogan 4:20 Mm.

Deric Poston 4:20 And I'm sitting back there, and he pulled in, and we're just kinda hanging at the back door. And he goes, "Derek, let me tell you something, man."

Joe Rogan 4:26 (laughs)

Narrator 4:28 (laughs)

Deric Poston 4:28 (laughs) Thank you. He goes, "I was getting 2,000 a weekend before this hair. Since this mullet, I get about 40K a weekend." And walked off. (laughs) And I was like, "Man, what the f-"

Joe Rogan 4:36 Whoa. What was he gonna say?

Deric Poston 4:36 Am I supposed to get a m- ... Yeah. Am I ... I literally was like, "I don't know what I'm supposed to do." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:40 You know what, though? It's true, but it's not true. So it's true that when the haircut came, he got more money on the weekend. But it's also like the haircut freed him to be Theo Von.

Deric Poston 4:53 I agree.

Joe Rogan 4:54 Like, do you remember when Theo ... I remember very clearly the first time I ever saw Theo and he was doing a bit about being a ... Not even a bit. He was telling a story, a true story, about when he was his, when he was young, his father was really old. Like his father had him when he was, like, 70.

Deric Poston 5:11 Uh, yes.

Joe Rogan 5:11 Yeah. Something crazy. And he said he remembers being on acid lying next to his father while ... And realize his father's just dying.

Deric Poston 5:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:21 You know what I mean?

Deric Poston 5:21 That's funny.

Joe Rogan 5:21 It's like if you've ever been around someone who's, like-

Deric Poston 5:24 Really dying.

Joe Rogan 5:24 ... 100 years old.

Deric Poston 5:25 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:26 They feel like there's no life force in them.

Deric Poston 5:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:30 Like the life force-

Deric Poston 5:30 And they're almost trapped in their mind.

Joe Rogan 5:31 ... is slipping away.

Deric Poston 5:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:31 You could ... Yeah. And he's on acid lying next to him. I was like, "Whoa. This guy's weird."

Deric Poston 5:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:36 Like, "What a, what a weird set."

Deric Poston 5:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:37 And then, you know, he was talking about all kinds of other stuff too, but it was really fun, but it was interesting, you know. And then I remember seeing him about a year, a year and a half later, and I couldn't fucking breathe. I was just crying loud. My cousin got bit by a gay guy, so we'll see.

Deric Poston 5:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:57 (laughs)

Narrator 5:57 (laughs)

Deric Poston 5:57 I was just like, "What the fuck are you saying?"

Joe Rogan 6:00 ... what the fuck are you saying? It was, it was the timing and the, the, the, the just- the material's, like, all over the place in this weird way. I love a guy like that.

Deric Poston 6:10 Yeah. I agree. You're right. It wasn't- the mullet might've just been the little touch, but he was already-

Joe Rogan 6:16 Sometimes you need-

Deric Poston 6:17 ... your favorite to watch.

Joe Rogan 6:17 ... something like that to make you feel different, you know. Like, m- like, some dudes, I think, like dressing nice on stage 'cause they feel different. Or Bert likes to take his shirt off 'cause-

Deric Poston 6:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:27 ... he feels different. Bert could do the same set with a tuxedo on. It would be the same fun.

Deric Poston 6:33 And murder. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:33 Yeah, it would be the same fun. It just makes him feel free to take- let that fucking gut hang out and show everybody he's willing to drink himself to death for you.

Deric Poston 6:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:45 (laughs)

Deric Poston 6:45 Like he's a fucking gladiator, dude. But they love it. But I do get that-

Joe Rogan 6:49 Yeah.

Deric Poston 6:49 ... feeling of, like, being free on stage and truly-

Joe Rogan 6:52 Yeah.

Deric Poston 6:52 ... 'cause that does separate yourself, too, of, like, "Oh, this is how I am."

Joe Rogan 6:56 Yeah. You gotta learn how to do that some way, right? And some people it's alcohol, and some people it's the way they dress, and some people it's weed, and some people it's, you know, they have to run, they have to jog before they do a set. Like-

Deric Poston 7:08 Yeah. I remember seeing Eleanor, she would do dips.

Joe Rogan 7:11 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 7:11 You'll catch her in the back of the hall, and just-

Joe Rogan 7:12 Yeah.

Deric Poston 7:12 ... she's just cranking out dips, and then she goes up, but then you see when she's up, it's like, oh, that energy had to just-

Joe Rogan 7:18 Yeah.

Deric Poston 7:18 ... it was just coming out of her.

Joe Rogan 7:19 Yes, it's coming out of you, and also you want to get your heart rate up a little bit so your body is, like, and your mind is l- like, things are flowing really good. You don't want to be, like, sleepy and then go on stage, right?

Deric Poston 7:29 No.

Joe Rogan 7:30 That's the worst thing in the world. Or a full meal. Ugh.

Deric Poston 7:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:33 And go on stage. You wanna be, you wanna be up a little.

Deric Poston 7:36 I heard Bill Burr say something, but he's just one of the greatest to ever do it, but it always made me go, "Damn," 'cause I always felt that way, like, no, I wouldn't eat before a meal, uh, eat before a show.

Joe Rogan 7:44 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 7:44 I wouldn't eat, and then I heard him say once, he was like, "Oh, I used to not eat before shows, and then I got older and I'd fucking have a Thanksgiving dinner before a show and go up and talk the whole set about how I had a Thanksgiving dinner and how fucking fat I am and how gross we all are in America." And it was just, like, that freedom of, like, "Wow, he really doesn't give a fuck, this guy."

Joe Rogan 8:01 He- well, he- Bill is also amazing at being Bill. Like, you know- like, he has, he has his opinions, his- what he thinks is stupid about something, and he's just, like, locked in.

Deric Poston 8:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:16 You know what I mean? Like, there's no- like, some comics, like, you'll see one of their hours and it's kind of, like, one kind of energy, and then the other th- hour, it's, like, kind of a different kind of energy. With Bill Burr, it's Bill Burr. I'm Bill Burr.

Deric Poston 8:29 That's a great point.

Joe Rogan 8:29 I'm Bill Burr. He knows how to be Bill Burr. He's professionally Bill Burr.

Deric Poston 8:33 That's a great point.

Joe Rogan 8:34 You know what I mean? Like, a lot of people couldn't even do his material. It would just, like- wouldn't work.

Deric Poston 8:39 No, and it'd- it would sound-

Joe Rogan 8:40 Horrible.

Deric Poston 8:40 Like hateful.

Joe Rogan 8:41 Yeah. (laughs)

Deric Poston 8:41 Like this guy fucking hates the world, dude.

Joe Rogan 8:43 But that's just the magic of becoming, you know, you, right? Like, there's a few- like, a Attell is the absolute best at it.

Deric Poston 8:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:51 Attell has a timing and a presence, and then the material, the way it's written, like, a lot of it on paper you'd be like, "What is this?"

Deric Poston 9:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:01 "I don't understand how this would be funny." But you see him do it in real life, you're like, "Oh my God." You're just crying.

Deric Poston 9:07 Yeah. And when the crowd is more raucous, he- he's better.

Joe Rogan 9:10 He's in on the corniness of some of the stuff, too, which makes it even more fun. It's, like, there's many layers to it, and, you know, some of it is just, like, just brilliant observations on things. Some of them, it is com- completely ridiculous, you know. It's like-

Deric Poston 9:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:25 ... it's just all, but it's woven into Dave Attell. You know what I mean?

Deric Poston 9:29 And he'll pull out a re- fucking recorder.

Joe Rogan 9:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Deric Poston 9:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:31 He starts playing the flute. (laughs)

Deric Poston 9:32 Yeah. (laughs) It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 9:34 Bro, when we saw him live, I was so-

Deric Poston 9:36 Y-

Joe Rogan 9:36 ... fucking impressed.

Deric Poston 9:37 At the Mothership.

Joe Rogan 9:37 At the Mothership.

Deric Poston 9:38 Yeah, I remember that.

Joe Rogan 9:38 I was so impressed. I was like, "That is so good." You know who's another one like that? Colin Quinn. You s-

Deric Poston 9:43 Man, when he was here.

Joe Rogan 9:44 Bro, you see him live, you're like, "Wow. That was so good, just so fun." You forget how good he is.

Deric Poston 9:51 Yeah, and then you're learning shit. You're like, "I didn't know this."

Joe Rogan 9:54 I le- Yeah, he's- he's like a history wizard. I remember we did cuf- Tough Crowd once, and, uh, Colin used to do standup to the crowd before the show would start, before he'd sit down and do Tough Crowd.

Deric Poston 10:05 He was doing the warmup for his own show.

Joe Rogan 10:06 Yeah, he was doing the warmup for his own show. This one time. I don't know if he did it all the time.

Deric Poston 10:10 Okay.

Joe Rogan 10:10 But he was murdering, murdering. And I was watching this, I was like, "People don't know how good he is." Like, this is crazy, 'cause, like, there's some guys, they'll warm up for their show and it's, like, a monologue. They're doing a few jokes. It's like, "It's okay. It's okay."

Deric Poston 10:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:26 "But I'm not in it. I'm not really feeling it." With him, it was like I was at a club. I was, like, dying laughing like I was at a comedy club. I was like ... People don't under- this is- like, there's a few of these guys that just never got good at promoting, you know, and they're really good.

Deric Poston 10:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:41 And the interesting thing is the really good ones are not bitter that they're not as famous as they deserve to be. Like, Attell is, like, the least bitter guy alive.

Deric Poston 10:50 Yeah, he's so cool.

Joe Rogan 10:51 Not even remotely bitter, always friendly. Always-

Deric Poston 10:53 Yeah, he'll talk to, like-

Joe Rogan 10:54 Like-

Deric Poston 10:54 Open mic or all day. He'll, he'll-

Joe Rogan 10:55 Sweet-

Deric Poston 10:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:56 ... peaceful. Like, he's as- as present as you can get, and, uh, he's infinitely less famous than he should be.

Deric Poston 11:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:05 He- he should be selling out arenas all over the world. He's that good.

Deric Poston 11:09 Wow.

Joe Rogan 11:09 He's so good, dude. He might be the best comic alive. There's, like, a few in my mind that are, like, in the running for that, like who is the be- I guess there's no one best.

Deric Poston 11:19 It's hard- it's- it's- it's a sport you can-

Joe Rogan 11:20 You know, 'cause you always have to consider Chappelle.

Deric Poston 11:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:23 He's the- the GOAT of our generation. He's the most prolific, he has s- social impact, he's hilarious and silly, and he's a sweetheart of a person, too. So you have to thank them. But then I go with, like, sheer RPMs, I gotta go with Joey Diaz.

Deric Poston 11:37 Joey Diaz. I knew it. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:39 Sheer RPMs, where you're just like, I- y- how many nights were we in the back of The Comedy Store where we couldn't- we couldn't even- couldn't even talk.

Deric Poston 11:46 You couldn't-

Joe Rogan 11:47 We couldn't breathe.

Deric Poston 11:47 You're not even laughing anymore. You're just kinda like ...

Joe Rogan 11:49 Just wheezing.

Deric Poston 11:49 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:49 Everybody's just wheezing. Him-

Deric Poston 11:51 Make-

Joe Rogan 11:51 Making wheezing noises and slapping things.

Deric Poston 11:54 Man, I remember back- that era, seeing him and, uh, and, uh, how people feel about him now, whatever, but at that time, man, when Chris D'Elia was on stage in that main room some nights, it was mind-blowing, the RPMs.

Joe Rogan 12:08 Yeah.

Deric Poston 12:08 The- just the amount of laughter and how fast would be like, "What the fuck?"

Joe Rogan 12:12 Yeah, he could kill. There's some- there's some magic to that thing. I think that's hypnosis. I've always thought that. I've been th- like, for a long time, at least. I- I'm like, "What is happening to me when someone's on stage and they're killing?" You know, like when Shane-

Deric Poston 12:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:26 ... when Shane's on fire. What is happening to me? I think I'm, like, locked in with their mind. I don't think it's as simple as I'm watching a show or something like that because ...... I l- love, like, watching a funny movie, you know, Tropic Thunder or something like that.

Deric Poston 12:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:41 I love laughing watching a funny movie. But I don't feel the same way I feel when a guy is in front of me on stage doing standup. And I think as great as specials are, they're never ... They're like 60 to 70% of being there live.

Deric Poston 12:57 Yes.

Joe Rogan 12:58 Always.

Deric Poston 12:58 Every time.

Joe Rogan 12:59 'Cause I think there's something about being there live that's like ... It's hypnosis. There's something going on where that, that person's making me think the way they think.

Deric Poston 13:08 Yeah. Yeah, when someone brings you into their world-

Joe Rogan 13:10 Yeah.

Deric Poston 13:10 And like you said, you're just living in it, and you're not even thinking about you're, you're just like, "I'm living in this guy's-

Joe Rogan 13:15 Exactly.

Deric Poston 13:15 ... essence right now."

Joe Rogan 13:16 Exactly. You're, you're living in this person's imagination and this person's work, right? 'Cause they, like they set this set up.

Deric Poston 13:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:24 And they danced it around in their head and they wrote it down on paper. That's the other interesting thing about what we do is like no one has a, there's no like one way to do it. I always say my way to do it, but you know, I don't think Bill writes shit down. I think he keeps it all in his head.

Deric Poston 13:39 (exhales)

Joe Rogan 13:39 Yeah. Dave mostly keeps it all in his head too.

Deric Poston 13:41 Schultz does that too.

Joe Rogan 13:42 Yeah. The, uh-

Deric Poston 13:43 It's insane wh-

Joe Rogan 13:43 Like that's the Jay-Z thing too, right?

Deric Poston 13:45 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:46 Jay-Z kept it all in his head.

Deric Poston 13:46 Lil Wayne, they didn't, they just, it was just-

Joe Rogan 13:48 Yeah.

Deric Poston 13:48 I mean, it's insane. They're releasing ... It's not like they're releasing one album.

Joe Rogan 13:51 But who's the best writer? Nas.

Deric Poston 13:54 (exhales)

Joe Rogan 13:54 Nas wrote everything down.

Deric Poston 13:55 I agree with that.

Joe Rogan 13:55 You can't write-

Deric Poston 13:56 I agree with that.

Joe Rogan 13:56 ... Rewind in your head.

Deric Poston 13:58 No, you can't.

Joe Rogan 13:59 No. That's-

Deric Poston 13:59 It's a story backwards.

Joe Rogan 14:00 It's a story backwards. It's another level. That's another level. That's like him pulling his dick out and just like ... (slaps table)

Deric Poston 14:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:09 Slapping that shit on the table, right?

Deric Poston 14:10 Yeah, that's it.

Joe Rogan 14:11 That song is ... When you wanna say like writing, like I, I challenge anybody in the world. Who's got a better written song than Rewind from Nas?

Deric Poston 14:19 That's a great take. I would agree with that.

Joe Rogan 14:20 It's cr-

Deric Poston 14:20 It's perfectly fluent backwards. It's insane.

Joe Rogan 14:23 It's perfectly fluent backwards.

Deric Poston 14:23 It's a language almost.

Joe Rogan 14:25 It's, it's magic. It's like a magic song.

Deric Poston 14:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:28 It's so, and it's ... And while you're watching it, like you're appreciating the fact that he pulled it off.

Deric Poston 14:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:34 You know, like, while, while you're listening. You're appreciating the fact that he pulled off this song backwards.

Deric Poston 14:40 Yeah, it's impressive to watch the different ways people do it. I mean, I'm biased 'cause I'm tour, I tour with him. But man, when I'm out with fucking Schultzy, dude, 'cause people just see him come up with that 10 minutes up top, you know, like, "We'll go, we'll go to Abu Dhabi," and he-

Joe Rogan 14:52 (laughs)

Deric Poston 14:53 You just see it, right ?

Narrator 14:54 (laughs)

Deric Poston 14:54 But man, you know, people, I get to see how he gets there.

Joe Rogan 14:57 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 14:57 And it's bea- ... He gets to town, and no matter where we are, and all he does is he just talks to people and he doesn't say anything. He just, he, he gets a random person who's lived in wherever we're at for a long time and he just lets him, and you can just, and you just see him. Kinda like, and his eyes will light up when somebody says a certain thing.

Joe Rogan 15:12 Oh.

Deric Poston 15:12 And his eyes will light up and he's like, "Oh, okay. Oh, that's going on? Oh, then what do they think of this? So what are the ti-" And he'll ask a couple questions.

Joe Rogan 15:18 Yeah.

Deric Poston 15:19 He'll do it, and I'm not talking about 30 minutes, Joe. He'll talk to somebody for three, four hours before the show.

Joe Rogan 15:23 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 15:23 And just soak in all the culture and all the information. And then you see him go on stage and it's a full flush 10-minute chunk about a place.

Joe Rogan 15:31 Joe, he's a special talent.

Deric Poston 15:33 That's-

Joe Rogan 15:33 He's a special talent.

Deric Poston 15:34 Yeah, I've never seen anything like that.

Joe Rogan 15:35 Yeah, he's very special. And you know, and it's also like you gotta realize he's doing these jokes in front of 16,000 people for the first time. He's got a new joke and he's busting it out in front of 16,000 people about their area.

Deric Poston 15:49 Yes.

Joe Rogan 15:49 Bro, that shit he did in Hawaii about the chickens being so confident.

Deric Poston 15:52 Oh my G- (laughs)

Narrator 15:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:53 (laughs)

Deric Poston 15:54 Joe, Joe, I was-

Joe Rogan 15:56 So good.

Deric Poston 15:56 I was the Black guy.

Joe Rogan 15:57 (laughs)

Deric Poston 15:57 We got off the van and he saw the chickens run up to me. He's like, "These chickens are too confident, dog."

Joe Rogan 16:02 (laughs)

Deric Poston 16:02 He's like, "They, they don't know Derek." And I went dying. And it cut to-

Joe Rogan 16:06 Oh.

Deric Poston 16:06 ... it's a foreign bit later that night and it's like, "This guy is incredible."

Joe Rogan 16:08 And that's, that's another example. Like what is he doing? How is he doing that to that crowd with those great jokes? Like he's like, he's locking those people in or they're, you're letting him think for you. Like, "Come on, man. Think for me."

Deric Poston 16:19 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:19 Let me have a good time and think for me.

Deric Poston 16:21 Yeah. And not only that, but you're talking about my own personal experience in Hawaii.

Joe Rogan 16:25 Right.

Deric Poston 16:25 And now you're going into your set and it, it-

Joe Rogan 16:27 Yeah.

Deric Poston 16:27 You have me. You have me completely wrapped around-

Joe Rogan 16:29 Yeah, you're a pro.

Deric Poston 16:30 It was, it was insane.

Joe Rogan 16:31 He's, he's, um, he keeps getting better.

Deric Poston 16:34 It's ins- I mean-

Joe Rogan 16:35 He was good when I first saw him a few years back, but man, he just keeps getting better.

Deric Poston 16:38 Well, like you said earlier, how see people do different hours, that's what happens with infamy.

Joe Rogan 16:41 You know what he did too though?

Deric Poston 16:42 It's different than live.

Joe Rogan 16:44 People forget he was like the first guy to really capitalize on the pandemic with his, uh, videos where he essentially created a completely new kind of standup, right? So they'd stand up without the pauses that you would require if a audience was laughing. So he's, it's more rapid paced.

Deric Poston 17:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:06 Like he thought this through, dude. This is like a genius thing. Those things turn your phone sideways.

Deric Poston 17:10 Yes, man.

Joe Rogan 17:10 So that's what you used to have to do back in the day, kids.

Deric Poston 17:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:13 Back five years ago.

Deric Poston 17:15 Five years ago.

Joe Rogan 17:15 All you fucking 15-year-olds when you were 10, you didn't know about this. But you, when you turn your phone sideways and then it would be, it would play out in wide format. And he would kinda do standup with images and with punchlines and it was fucking great.

Deric Poston 17:28 Incredible.

Joe Rogan 17:29 But it was a way faster pace than he does standup on stage.

Deric Poston 17:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:33 It was like the punchlines were da-da-da-da-da and then you this and you that and da-da-da-da-da. And I'm like, "Oh my God, he figured it out."

Deric Poston 17:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:38 He figured out how to make like really compelling standup for someone who's not there.

Deric Poston 17:43 Well, it's like a, it's like a, a late night monologue from one of those late night hosts-

Joe Rogan 17:46 Yeah.

Deric Poston 17:46 ... but like a real motherfucker doing it.

Joe Rogan 17:47 Yeah.

Deric Poston 17:48 And really giving their actual opinion.

Joe Rogan 17:49 Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. It's genius. 'Cause like that was an example of someone innovating in like a crisis. Like there's a situation that happened, you're forced to, everyone, you know. Some, like during the pandemic, some people just curled up in a shell and decided, "I'm not leaving my house anymore."

Deric Poston 18:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:07 And then some people were like, "Okay, what can we do? What can we do?" Okay, I'm gonna figure out how to do standup in this little video format, turn your phone sideways.

Deric Poston 18:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:17 And then everybody started sharing them and some of ... And then that Netflix does uh, uh, a thing, you know, Andrew Schulz Saves America.

Deric Poston 18:23 Andrew Schulz Saves America, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:24 Yeah. Which, uh, I don't think he ... Well they should, they should get their money back because he didn't save America.

Deric Poston 18:29 (laughs) He didn't.

Joe Rogan 18:30 How dare you? How dare you?

Deric Poston 18:31 Yeah, some of those people are still trapped in the house, Joe.

Joe Rogan 18:33 It's true. It's crazier than ever right now, Andrew. (laughs)

Deric Poston 18:36 (laughs) But yeah, he, he did, I mean with, even with clips-

Joe Rogan 18:39 Genius.

Deric Poston 18:39 ... with clips.

Joe Rogan 18:39 Genius.

Deric Poston 18:39 It's him. I give him that credit of like-

Joe Rogan 18:41 Oh, he does it all the time.

Deric Poston 18:42 It's-

Joe Rogan 18:42 And he also, you know, because his stuff is local and a lot of it, um, like these opening bits that he comes up with are y- you, you kinda have to get them out now.

Deric Poston 18:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:52 Right? Some, so he can just release them on like the fucking when, uh, we did the P. Diddy thing when he went to LA. (laughs)

Deric Poston 18:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:59 ... (laughs) and that's just at P. Diddy's house?

Deric Poston 19:00 Brother.

Joe Rogan 19:01 (laughs)

Deric Poston 19:01 Brother, he wrote that shit 10 minutes before he walked up into the forum, 20,000 people, 20,000 people. He wrote it 10... And it was the cr... And we... Me and Mark Gagnon are sitting there like, "Holy fuck."

Joe Rogan 19:13 (laughs)

Deric Poston 19:13 How did he come up with this? We were just hanging with him.

Joe Rogan 19:15 That's so funny. He's in the groove, you know?

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Joe Rogan 20:34 It's sort of like, um, y- y- when you have a muscle to do something, and you do that thing all the time, then you just get better and better and better at doing that thing. And then you get in the groove, like you... like we were talking about like Attell, like Theo, like when someone gets in the groove of who they are, you know?

Deric Poston 20:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:49 Like, like Tony is on Kill Tony, perfect example.

Deric Poston 20:52 That's it. Unrealistic.

Joe Rogan 20:52 He's locked in. He's in the groove. He's been doing it so long. He knows when to dance and when to pause and-

Deric Poston 20:59 Mm-hmm. When to ask a serious question, when to get goofy, when to let the, the c- these are... the panel know. It's pretty impressive, man.

Joe Rogan 21:04 If you can find something like that to do in your life, you'll have a much better life than if you just get a job. And I know that's not for... Not everybody can, but if you can, you definitely should.

Deric Poston 21:18 Yeah, dude.

Joe Rogan 21:19 Yeah. You definitely should do that.

Deric Poston 21:21 Being excited for every day and nervous and a- anxious and, and always just b- That feeling, I mean, I... To not have it, I can't believe people go... I don't... I get having... You gotta go to work, you gotta make money, but the idea of like, man, never that feeling of anxiety and looking forward to something and... And, and it not going the way you planned.

Joe Rogan 21:38 Right.

Deric Poston 21:38 And so you gotta go the next day and figure out what went wrong.

Joe Rogan 21:40 Yeah.

Deric Poston 21:40 And like, I love that. That's what I love about standup, the figuring it out, the math of it all.

Joe Rogan 21:45 Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a great job, man. We're so fucking lucky.

Deric Poston 21:48 Yeah, dude.

Joe Rogan 21:49 We're so lucky.

Deric Poston 21:50 God, you've been in it long enough to see everybody. Did you see this thing Damon Wayans said about you?

Joe Rogan 21:54 Yeah. He said I stole one of my jokes. (laughs)

Deric Poston 21:56 Yeah. (laughs) I was gonna talk to you about that. But the way he said it, I've never seen someone say I stole a joke, and I... He was like, "Man, I... I got..." He said, "I saw it, and then I ac- realized I stole Joe's joke, and I was like, oh, I gotta stop watching motherfuckers."

Joe Rogan 22:06 Yeah.

Deric Poston 22:06 It just stuck in the back of his head. But I know you give him his flowers, so I was like, oh, no, the guy's not a joke thief. Like...

Joe Rogan 22:11 No, no, no, no. That happens, man. Sometimes you, you think you came up with it, but somebody else did, and you heard it, and you forgot. That can definitely... Especially if it's a subject that you never cover and time has passed, and then th- the subject comes up, like something comes up and you, you're like... And it almost... Like, David tells the best at that. He'll call you up, because you have to check sometimes. Like, "Hey, have you heard this?" (exhales) You know, like you have... He's the best at that. Dave does that all the time. Like, you gotta check every now and then. Like, this one seems too easy, because the memory is weird. You know, memory is weird.

Deric Poston 22:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:44 You ever go back to like your old neighborhood where you grew up and you're like, "This house is way smaller than I thought it was."

Deric Poston 22:49 It was a mansion. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:49 This house is different.

Deric Poston 22:50 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:50 The driveway is different. Everything's different. Looks weird. You know, your memory is shitty. It's good. I mean, it, it keeps you from fucking picking up the wrong spider.

Deric Poston 22:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:59 But, you know what I mean? It's, it's not, it's not a photographic representation of reality. And that's a problem.

Deric Poston 23:06 And you guys have been doing standup 20 years and how many bits have you seen just...

Joe Rogan 23:09 Yeah. Seen too many bits. Yeah. So you can... And then, you know, there's parallel thinking. There's a lot. But you know when someone's a thief and Damon's not a thief. I always said that Damon may... He might be one of the most underappreciated comics ever.

Deric Poston 23:23 Yeah, dude.

Joe Rogan 23:23 Because like when he was in his prime, you gotta realize, he was like... You know, if you're looking at today, he was like Chappelle. He was like in this... That same level of recognition as being like one of the best guys alive.

Deric Poston 23:35 Wow. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:35 But then they got him with those TV shows, man.

Deric Poston 23:37 And movies. He wanted to be a movie star.

Joe Rogan 23:38 Yeah. He was Last Boy Scout. He was gonna be a movie star.

Deric Poston 23:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:40 He did that big Bruce Willis movie.

Deric Poston 23:41 Bruce Willis. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:42 And it was a good movie.

Deric Poston 23:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:43 And then it looked like he was gonna be a movie star after that.

Deric Poston 23:46 I mean, he had some great... Like Blankman where he's a retarded superhero.

Joe Rogan 23:48 Oh, my God. That was so ridiculous.

Deric Poston 23:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:50 Try doing that today.

Deric Poston 23:51 You couldn't do... They're so good.

Joe Rogan 23:51 Bro, how do you when he, when he used to do handyman on In Living Color. (laughs)

Deric Poston 23:56 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:56 Oh, my God.

Deric Poston 23:57 They might be one of the greatest-

Joe Rogan 23:59 No.

Deric Poston 23:59 ... families of the... The Wayans family.

Joe Rogan 24:02 Oh, for sure.

Deric Poston 24:02 Uh, who's...

Joe Rogan 24:03 Who's number two? They're number one.

Deric Poston 24:04 They might be one and two, Joe. I, I don't know who...

Joe Rogan 24:06 Ah. Like what other families are there that are like big show... Not in comedy.

Deric Poston 24:11 The... But-

Joe Rogan 24:11 What other family? I mean, am I missing something? Am I forgetting somebody?

Deric Poston 24:16 I mean, I know In Living Color was so big.

Joe Rogan 24:17 It's like them and then the Sklar brothers. (laughs)

Deric Poston 24:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:21 Like, there's no other families.

Deric Poston 24:23 Yeah, family. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:23 There's nobody in The Hunt.

Deric Poston 24:26 I, I... You know-

Joe Rogan 24:26 Living Color is so big, Joe. Did you know this? That the reason we have a Super Bowl halftime show is because of In Living Color. That's crazy.

Deric Poston 24:35 So In Living Color-

Joe Rogan 24:36 Really? Is that true?

Deric Poston 24:36 That's true. So before Michael Jackson-

Joe Rogan 24:38 Wow.

Deric Poston 24:38 When they... The year they brought Michael Jackson was because the year before that, In Living Color aired during the Super Bowl.

Joe Rogan 24:44 Wow.

Deric Poston 24:44 And they lost so many viewers. They lost like a, a, a... Not half, a big number where that they were like, "We can't let people leave during the halftime show, 'cause this show is too big."

Joe Rogan 24:54 What year was that?

Deric Poston 24:55 I wanna say Michael Jackson was '95 maybe '96.

Joe Rogan 24:58 It had to be earlier than that.

Deric Poston 25:00 Maybe '94.

Joe Rogan 25:01 It had to be earlier than that, because I remember watching it on TV at a pool hall.... '93. '93? Yeah. '93. So, I was just moving to New York, uh, uh, to LA from New York then. So I was in New York at a pool hall watching it, and I remember watching Fire Marshall Bill, and I'll be like, "W- how can you do this?" (laughs) "How is this allowed?" I'm like, "This show's crazy." (laughs) You have to realize, for '93, there was nothing like... Like, if you think about the internet today and all the crazy videos that people put together, and the years of MADtv and, you know- SNL. Y- yeah. Yeah. But back then? Back then, man- (exhales) . ... there was nothing like this show. This show was crazy. And Paulie's, Paulie's there. (inhales) That is Paulie. Oh my God, (laughs) that is Paulie- (laughs) ... right in the corner. There we go. Oh, look at Paulie. The weaves. Look at him, he's moving the head like a pigeon, bro. (laughs) He's here now, too. Yeah, I know, that's great. Isn't it fun hanging out with Paulie? Oh, God. It's like being at the store, man. It's the best. But, uh- But this- ... no. This is unreal how big this was. The show was great. But Damon, you watch... If you wanna watch something, watch, uh, uh, uh, th- um, I think it's The Last Stand. I think that was one of his, uh... I think that's the name of it. Something like... I think it's The Last Stand. But it's fucking phenomenal. And it's, it's so, it's so good, but it's also, like, so good if you go back to that time, 'cause comedy, like everything else, has evolved with all the scrutiny on it and all the different high-level people that are doing it. Like, there's the comedy right now, I think is at, like, the highest level that I've ever seen. There's so many really great comedians. I d- I think in the 1980s, like, if you go back, you had Kenison, you had Eddie Murphy, you had Richard Pryor, you had George Carlin, you had a bunch of really good guy... Jerry Seinfeld. But th- that many after that. You know? It wasn't as thick- Yeah. ... as thick with assassins. But I think, like, right now, there's so many assassins out there. There's more arena acts out there right now than has ever been in the history of comedy. Yeah. You gotta realize, arena acts started with Dice Clay. So, Dice Clay starts off becoming... He becomes an arena act in, like, '87-ish? Late '80s- Yeah. ... is when arena act comedy started. Mm-hmm. Before th- and nobody was doing it but Dice. Dice was the only arena act. Wow. Yeah, and then arena act number two, Dane Cook. (inhales) And that's how many years later? Mm-hmm. Um, many. 'Cause it's like, Dane Cooks becomes an arena act in, like, the 2000s. (inhales) Wow. Yeah. So, then there's Dane Cook. Dane Cook starts selling out arenas. Everybody's like, "What is happening? What is happening?" (laughs) And then, um, all the sudden, the internet happens, and social media happens, and a lot of comics. Like we were talking about, like, Dave Attell and Colin Quinn. Like, Dave Attell's one of the best t- to ever do it. N- n- and if there's ever a club where he's not sold out the moment it's on stage, that's a travesty. It doesn't make- That makes sense. ... any sense. Doesn't make sense. But they, they didn't connect to the internet the same way. And because that, their, the notoriety is not commensurate to the talent- Mm-hmm. ... whereas, like, with Schultz, the notoriety and the talent are perfectly balanced. Wow. It's the same th- it's the same level. So, everybody knows how good he is and everybody knows who he is. It's like, it's locked in. Whereas it's like, Dave Attell is this, but, like, the notoriety is, like, us

Joe Rogan 28:31 talking about him only. Oh. Word of mouth only. Like a secret. His social media's hot garbage. (laughs) He's got a flip phone- He's got a flip phone. ... and he f- and he p- he t- texts you with the do, do, do, do. (laughs) He's gotta press four times to get a R or whatever the fuck it is. (laughs) You know? It's so stupid. It's so stupid. And it's crazy he does it like that. It's crazy he does it like that. Like, why did he do it like that? 'Cause he could be on the internet more. He... I mean, I remember when he had- Or- ... that show, Insomniac. That's when I first saw him. But he's... Let me throw this at you, because I've been trying to stay off social media more and more every day, like, a little less every day. And the more I do it, the better I feel. It's like not being poisoned. It really is. It's like getting away from a poison that you didn't know was a poison, like some, like, forever plastics in your Starbucks cup or something. You know? Yeah. Like, I, I quit those Starbucks cups, and all the sudden, I... You know what I mean? It's like- Yeah. ... something like that. Like, I dr- I quit drinking tap water, and all of a sudden, I can think better. You know? (laughs) Steve Martin sold- Oh, that's right. ... 45,000 tickets in '78. Oh my God, that's right. You know, um... I don't know if anybody else before that. We always... People forget about him. I forgot about Steve Martin. W- I forgot about Steve Martin for two reasons. One, uh, 'cause Steve Martin was a little different. He was doing standup, but it was a lot of songs, and it was... You know what I mean? Yeah. He, he was great, by the way. Like, Let's Get Small is phenomenal. But I think he got to a point where comedy became too easy because ev- and so he didn't know what was funny anymore because everybody loved him so much, and he stopped doing standup, which is really weird. Wow. Probably didn't have good friends. Yeah, 'cause if- 'Cause if he had good friends, we would've grabbed them like we grabbed Ron White. (laughs) 'Cause like- Remember when Ron White was trying to quit? ... retired. Yeah, like, what are you talking about? He was like, "I'm gonna retire." Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Why would you do that? Yeah. Why would you do that? Isn't comedy fun? Yeah. He's like- Yeah, it is. ... "Keep... So keep doing fun things." God. What the fuck is wrong with you? Like, I, I've, I can't believe I have to give him this advice. (laughs) I'm like, "You're Ron White. How are you thinking about cr- how could you wi- how much fun are you having when you killing up there?" But I think that was the drinking thing, too, man. Yeah, he's sober now. Yeah. It was drinking and it was also, he needed a tribe. You know? And he had the tribe a little bit when he was in California, you know, but he was always on the road a lot, you know, and he just decided that being in the center of the country was better. So, he was like patient zero of the Austin revolution. Yeah. Like, a lot of people think it was me, but it was really Ron, because I came here knowing that Ron was here. I was like, "At the very least, Ron's here." You know? It's two of us. I'm like, "I'm not living like this in California. You're not doing this to me. I know what you're doing." I was, uh... Like, the, the, the, the fucking caged animal in me was like, "I'm getting out." (laughs) "This is not... This is gonna go sideways. I'm not gonna be a part of this." Yeah. "Fuck you." Then I go, "Okay, at least Ron's there." I was like, "My life is gonna be worse than it ever was before. My life is gonna be... All my friends are gone, they're not here."... I'm in the middle of the country, maybe I'll see him every now and then, maybe I'll have to book shows to see them, but at least Ron's here. That's, that's what I decided.

Deric Poston 31:23 Patient zero.

Joe Rogan 31:24 Yeah. He was patient zero. So, you know-

Deric Poston 31:26 And now he hangs out every night.

Joe Rogan 31:27 ... and we get, we get Ron every night. Oh, it's bea- he's lovely.

Deric Poston 31:30 He's the b- (laughs) the object (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 31:31 He's lovely. He's lovely.

Deric Poston 31:32 We were hanging one time, this is my favorite Ron story. And it's me, it's just me, you, and Ron in the green room, and you gifted him a really nice Rolex, and you guys were having a sweet moment, and I, I couldn't believe I was there to see, and I was like, "Damn, this is really cool." And you gifted it to him and y'all were having a conversation, I'm like, "Wow." And he takes off his Rolex and he tossed it to me. He goes, "There you go, Derrick." And I go, "Holy shit, Ron, for real?" He says, "Fuck no, bro."

Joe Rogan 31:55 (laughs)

Deric Poston 31:55 "Give me my Rolex back. (laughs) Get my Rolex back, you idiot." And then you went, so you go, "That's the most fucked up shit I've ever seen, Ron." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:03 I forgot about that joke right now. (laughs)

Deric Poston 32:04 He was most evil.

Joe Rogan 32:05 That was so evil.

Deric Poston 32:07 You were, (laughs) you literally were like, "Ron, why would you do that?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:09 Well, I thought everybody was just giving out Rolexes up in this bitch.

Deric Poston 32:12 I, I thought that was gonna be a great moment, and my face was like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:15 Ah, that's hilarious. Yeah.

Deric Poston 32:17 But he's the man, dude. I, I, I can't believe I'm friends with him, 'cause I, I've been a fan since I was a kid.

Joe Rogan 32:21 I know. I feel that same way. Yeah. I feel that way about a lot of guys. Like, I can't believe I'm friends with you. It's nice. It's not... well, that's good, right? You never stop being both a fan and a person who does it.

Deric Poston 32:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:33 I try to separate it. Um, I try to separate me as a comic off-stage versus me as a comic on-stage. I really do. You know, so I can just be a fan.

Deric Poston 32:43 Oh, I see what you're saying.

Joe Rogan 32:44 You know?

Deric Poston 32:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:44 Like, um, when I was younger, I used to watch someone going, "Oh, I would do it differently." Like, if they suck, I'll do that. If they suck, I'll go like, "Oh, that premise." Uh, uh, "I think..." Ah, there's something they're not explaining this very well.

Deric Poston 32:55 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:55 You know what I mean? I, I start picking it apart that way. But I like to just be a fan. I do- like to just watch, 'cause I think a lot of people are real hesitant to give up flowers, right, as you know-

Deric Poston 33:07 Yeah, they are.

Joe Rogan 33:07 ... kids like to say.

Deric Poston 33:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:08 The, but the reason why is because they don't feel good about comparing themselves to this person who may be doing better than them. So they, there's a feeling like, "Ah, he's all right. He's all right." There's a little bit of that, you know, which I don't-

Deric Poston 33:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:21 I don't like that.

Deric Poston 33:22 It doesn't make sense to me either-

Joe Rogan 33:23 Right.

Deric Poston 33:23 ... 'cause watching this game, i- i- for the 10 years I've been doing it, it's like, oh, like, there's no... Like I, everyone tells me that Sebastian used to, w- was like nobody knew that he was gonna be the big, one of the biggest arena acts we've ever seen when he first started, when he was coming around.

Joe Rogan 33:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Figure it out.

Deric Poston 33:38 Do you ever hear old comics? You gotta be like, "Oh, he was good, but you didn't see that form." So it's like, oh, there is no point to judge somebody harshly, 'cause this game is long. It's-

Joe Rogan 33:45 Yeah. The game's long, and you figure things out. I was terrible when I started. There's no way to not be, especially me. I was socially retarded.

Deric Poston 33:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:52 I've been hit in the head 150,000 (laughs) times. I mean, (laughs) there's some fucking issues there.

Deric Poston 33:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:57 There's some issues, and I, I was socially retarded because I spent, like, from age 15 to 21 just did nothing but travel around the country fighting people. That's all I did. So my version of a, a young adulthood was very weird. Like, it was, uh, 100% competition.

Deric Poston 34:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:15 That was all it was. You know, that's all I did. Like-

Deric Poston 34:18 When you hear Joey talk about you when you're younger as like, "Oh, he was an animal." You know, (laughs) like, "Joe was just an animal." Before you apparently started smoking weed, he was like-

Joe Rogan 34:24 Yeah.

Deric Poston 34:24 ... you were way more different about it.

Joe Rogan 34:26 Yeah, but I think a lot of fighters have a hard time transitioning into being a regular person. And I was only an amateur fighter. You know, I was... I couldn't imagine being a guy like, you know, like Dustin Poirier, who's about to retire, you know, like transitioning to being a regular person when he's been this fucking savage-

Deric Poston 34:46 Killer.

Joe Rogan 34:46 ... for so long, for so long, at the highest lev- like, that's like the highest level in the world. Inside the octagon, knocks out Conor McGregor.

Deric Poston 34:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:57 And you're like, "Wha..."

Deric Poston 34:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:59 And that guy's gotta transition to being a regular person. For me, there was no s- screaming crowds, it was weird high school auditoriums and trying to give people concussions.

Deric Poston 35:10 (laughs)

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Deric Poston 37:24 Did you ever have any ambition to go pro, to take it to the next level, or-

Joe Rogan 37:27 Yeah, but there was no money. I remember I got offered $500 to do a kickboxing fight.... and, uh... There was... So if I did that kickboxing fight, I couldn't fight amateur anymore. And I was like, "$500, so then I can't..." Like, if I ever decided to, like, try to compete in the Olympics again, 'cause I was trying to get on the national team to compete in the Olympics. But somewhere along the line (sniffs) I got a little disenchanted with Taekwondo. And one of the ways that it happened is I started kickboxing, and I started getting beat up 'cause my hands were dog shit. So, like, I've, I was really good kicking. But if, if I got into boxing exchanges, I was terrible. My chin was up in the air.

Deric Poston 38:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:02 I was fucking swinging punches like a bitch.

Deric Poston 38:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:05 It was awful. I could hit really hard. If I hit you, you were in trouble.

Deric Poston 38:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:08 But it was not good. And so I realized like, "Oh, there's a giant flaw in this, like, for actual real fights. There's a giant flaw in this." And as soon as I started kickboxing, particularly, I had this friend of mine who was a really good boxer, Dana Rosenblatt. And he, he was one of my training partners and he became a New England, uh, middleweight champion. He beat, uh, Vinny Pazienza in a decision. He lost to him one fight and then beat him in a decision. He was legit. He knocked out Howard Davis Jr., who was a, uh, Olympic gold medalist. He's a bad motherfucker. And he also, uh, when I was training with him, made me realize that I didn't really want to do this anymore. That I was just doing this because I had done it my whole life, and this was, like, what I decided I was doing. Then I was like, "Not only is there no future in this, there's a lot of brain damage coming my way."

Deric Poston 38:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:54 Like, 100% I'm getting it right now. And, uh, you know, just sparring with Dana, me and him sparring, we... I don't know how many times we sparred, but we would beat the fuck out of each other, dude.

Deric Poston 39:03 Damn, really?

Joe Rogan 39:04 Oh. Oh, it was horrible. Yeah, I'd go home with headaches.

Deric Poston 39:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:09 He... And, and if we were, uh, in boxing range, he was tuning me up, so I was always trying to stay on the outside 'cause h- his hands were way better than mine. But we cracked each other. Oh.

Deric Poston 39:18 You and Dana White would fight? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:19 No, no, no, no. My friend Dana Rosenblatt.

Deric Poston 39:21 Okay, I was like-

Joe Rogan 39:21 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Deric Poston 39:22 ... Yeah, I heard Dana, and I was like, "Who the hell is Dana?"

Joe Rogan 39:23 But if me and Dana were friends, we would do that too.

Deric Poston 39:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:26 Like I, I sparred with a lot of my friends. We beat the shit out of each other. (laughs)

Deric Poston 39:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:29 It was horrible. But that's how you... What you have to do. You know what the beautiful thing about jujitsu is, above kickboxing, is you, you don't have this, kinda, animosity with your sparring partners because, like, if you... If you're in a good gym, um, in kickboxing, you're always hurting each other. And he's like, even if you love a guy and you spar with him, you're always hurting each other.

Deric Poston 39:48 Okay.

Joe Rogan 39:48 So you always have this thing where you're like, "Fuck that dude. That dude gave me a fucking headache." (laughs)

Deric Poston 39:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:53 You know what I mean? You think about getting him back. Like, you think about it. He cracked you with a left hook, and you're like, "I am gonna get him back."

Deric Poston 39:59 Okay.

Joe Rogan 39:59 "I can't wait to get him back." Whereas with jujitsu, you can't wait to tap somebody, but you're not hurting each other. You know, if you get hurt, it's an accident. The, the injuries in jujitsu are usually either strain related or, you know, you didn't tap, right? It's either-

Deric Poston 40:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:12 ... you strain to get outta something, or you s- pulled yourself the wrong way, (sniffs) or you didn't tap. But in kickboxing, like, you're getting... Your legs are getting fucked up every day. Wham, wham. No matter what. And those pads, they help a little.

Deric Poston 40:26 Damn, and they're huge too, those pads. Well, they look like when I'm watching you battle.

Joe Rogan 40:28 Yeah, they help a little. Yeah, if somebody kicks you, like if Israel Adesanya kicks you with one of those pads on, that shit...

Deric Poston 40:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:35 You can't, you can't believe-

Deric Poston 40:37 Get the fuck outta here.

Joe Rogan 40:38 ... the kind of agony that's involved in that way to make a living. So I was only doing it because I, I didn't know what to do. I was still do... But I wasn't the same person that I used to be. I was, at one point in time, I was just a mad dog. And then I realized, like, "I'm gonna get really hurt and there's no future in this," you know?

Deric Poston 40:55 Wow. Were you already one foot in, one foot out, or did you just stop... Two feet in, but you were like, "I'm done"?

Joe Rogan 41:00 You know what it was, really? I had one fight. When I fought... I fought in the nationals in Anaheim, and, uh, I beat the first guy, so I got into the second round. And the second guy was this k-... I think he was from Illinois, I don't remember, but he was, like, super aggressive. And I hit him with the hardest wheel kick I've ever thrown in my life. It was perfect. He charged in with like a, a, a left switch kick. So he was like a... Did a hopping roundhouse kick off the left side, and I recognized it right away. There was a pattern. He was making this pattern when he was moving. He would do this thing, and then he would always do this. He would do this thing, and then he would always do this. So I saw that pattern, and I said, "Here it comes." And so he went with his hopping roundhouse kick, I countered with this wheel kick. And I hit him so hard that my heel was sore for days. I was limping for days-

Deric Poston 41:51 Wow.

Joe Rogan 41:51 ... because the way my heel bounced off his face.

Deric Poston 41:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:54 And he face planted snoring. Like, they snore when they go out. Have you ever seen anybody get knocked out?

Deric Poston 41:59 Oh, yeah, they're... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:00 On the internet, of course you have. (laughs)

Deric Poston 42:03 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:03 But I'd seen it a few times in the gym. It, it's spooky. It's spooky. And so, uh, my thing, what I would always do when I knock somebody out is walk away like it was nothing. Like, that's what I always do. Like, that's what I do.

Deric Poston 42:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:15 I just... I didn't celebrate. I just would turn my head and walk away.

Deric Poston 42:19 Oh.

Joe Rogan 42:19 And I was talking to my friend Junksic who was, uh... He was US national champion. He was a training partner of mine. He was sitting in the, in the seat, and I said, "I'll never forget this." I'm like, "Is he moving?" He's like, "He hasn't gotten up." And so then they get him an ambulance. And so they put this kid on a stretcher, and they have him sitting out there for 30 minutes and he's just on the stretcher for 30 minutes. And then they bring him in the ambulance and they take him to the hospital. And I'm like, "Yo."

Deric Poston 42:46 When, when he said he's not... You... He wasn't moving yet, did you feel like-

Joe Rogan 42:49 Yeah, he could be dead. So this is what scared me. (laughs)

Deric Poston 42:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:53 So I, I had this trainer, uh, my... Well, this, uh, instructor, uh, who's, like, one of the best TaeKwonDo instructors in the world. And I say to him, um, you know, uh... Well, he said to me, he said, uh... He goes, "I heard you had a really good knockout at the nationals." And, uh, I said, "Yes, sir." I said, "It was, uh... It was kinda scary because, uh, I thought, like... I thought for a while that he was dead." And he goes, "Sometimes they die." (laughs)

Deric Poston 43:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:24 And he walked away. I was like, "Oh, Jesus."

Deric Poston 43:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:27 I was, "Jesus Christ. Oh, Jesus Christ."

Deric Poston 43:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:29 And he was fucking serious. He used to train-

Deric Poston 43:31 Like he's in Rocky IV or some shit? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:32 He used to train troops in Vietnam. Like, he was a hardcore dude. He was hardcore.

Deric Poston 43:38 ... oh, my God. Sometimes they die?

Joe Rogan 43:40 Oh, sometimes they die. Yeah. I think it was Vietnam where he trained troops. I forget where he trained troops. But, he was like an elite Taekwondo instructor and he was, uh, his mind was like... His name was, uh, Master Jae Hun Kim and he's the- the guy who runs the Jae Hun Kim Taekwondo Institute. Like that's his business. And that's, that's the place where I came. And he was like one of the few guys that was trained under Je- General Chae Young Yi, who was, um, the founder of Tae Kwon Doe. So like there's a handful of black belts that were trained by this one guy. So it was like a different style. So their style was very violent and very power oriented, whereas there was like an Olympic style that was emerged- that was emerging that was very points oriented. It was just move fast and like tap and score. Ha, pa, pa! And they would yell and shit like that. Like every time they'd hit, they'd scream out. And so the Olympic style was more effective at winning tournaments. And so the best guys were adopting like this Olympic style. But there was an older style that was just th- maybe they telegraphed the moves a little bit more and maybe it was a little slow, but the impact was very different. Those guys were killers.

Deric Poston 44:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:47 They were knocking people unconscious. It was very scary. So that's the gym that I grew up in. So I, I had this very fortunate place that I just stumbled into.

Deric Poston 44:58 Wow.

Joe Rogan 44:58 You know, it happened to be like one of the best Taekwondo gyms in the country, especially for generating power because they like really emphasized heavy bag work. Like he really emphasized heavy bag work. He's like, "You have to generate power." If you hit somebody and it doesn't hurt, that's ridiculous.

Deric Poston 45:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:12 You got, you gotta b- you gotta be able to hit someone and just put them out. F-

Deric Poston 45:17 Would you get into a lot of street fights-

Joe Rogan 45:19 No.

Deric Poston 45:19 ... before this? Or s-

Joe Rogan 45:20 No.

Deric Poston 45:21 Even before, before Tae Kwon, you weren't even getting in fights?

Joe Rogan 45:24 No. No, no, no.

Deric Poston 45:24 You tell me about it.

Joe Rogan 45:24 Before Tae Kwon Do, I was a pussy.

Deric Poston 45:26 Really?

Joe Rogan 45:26 Yeah, I couldn't fight at all so like why would I get in fights? I was trying to get away from fights. (laughs)

Deric Poston 45:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:30 Trying to avoid everybody. I was terrified.

Deric Poston 45:32 Wow.

Joe Rogan 45:33 So I just got tired of being fucked with because I was a pussy, 'cause I would get nervous, because I moved around a lot. I didn't have a lot of friends. We, we moved a bunch of times when I was a kid. So I was always around new kids and I wasn't big, so they would fuck with me. You know, it's just normal, so they would-

Deric Poston 45:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:47 And I didn't know how to fight, so it bothered the shit out of me. And so I'm like, "Well, there's only one solution."

Deric Poston 45:51 Wow.

Joe Rogan 45:51 You, you know, you gotta become what you're scared of.

Deric Poston 45:53 So you put yourself into Tae Kwon Do?

Joe Rogan 45:55 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Deric Poston 45:55 You were like, "Hey, I wanna do this."

Joe Rogan 45:56 Yeah, I got a job, started working washing dishes at Newport Creamery. Got enough money so I could take Tae Kwon Do lessons.

Deric Poston 46:05 Holy shit, Joe.

Joe Rogan 46:07 Yeah.

Deric Poston 46:07 I did not know that.

Joe Rogan 46:07 And then I started going every day, so after a while he realized like it would be better if I was just there all the time instead of working. And so he gave me a job.

Deric Poston 46:18 I did not know that about you, dude.

Joe Rogan 46:19 Yes, I was teaching. So I started teaching when I was like 15. I was teaching people when I was 15. And then when I was 19 I was teaching at Boston University. I used to teach a class, accredited class. It was a pass/fail A and I would tell everybody... It would count towards your GPA. So I'd say, "If you come here, you get an A. That's all you have to do. Just try, you're gonna get an A and it counts towards your GPA." And I'd just tell them that at the beginning of the class. I go, "If you can't come, if you can't make it, just call me and tell me that you can't make it, but I want you to co- I want you to come every time you can. And if you do that, I'm gonna get you better and we're- we're all gonna learn something. We're gonna, I'm gonna tea- really get into this." So I was really good at teaching.

Deric Poston 46:59 Wow.

Joe Rogan 46:59 I was really, really into teaching.

Deric Poston 47:00 That's how you were in there, in the gym when we work out.

Joe Rogan 47:02 Yeah.

Deric Poston 47:02 You had that same energy, so it's like, oh, that came from a place.

Joe Rogan 47:05 Yeah, well, that's what I was doing for a living. So from 15 to 19 I was just teaching. So what the, what my instructor allowed me to do... I guess I was training after about six months or so, he- he said, "Look, this is, you could train here for free. All you have to do is teach private lessons." And I was like, "Great." So I would teach people, the new people, I would teach them how to bow, I'd teach them how to tie their gi on, I would teach them how to stand, I would teach them different, different techniques and I would go through them and get them so they're ready to join in, to group classes. 'Cause you couldn't just go into group classes. You wouldn't know what you were doing.

Deric Poston 47:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:41 Like, they're like, "Front kick," you're like, "Uh," looking around. Someone's got to teach you how to do it. So it was always like a big deal to let like one of your little birds loose into the main class. Like you teach them, get their front kick going, get the side kick going, they go through a series of private lessons. I tell them to practice on their own l- using the mirror, give them a bunch of like things to think about as they break down the movements.

Deric Poston 48:03 And you just literally... I seen you doing it there. That is what the mothership is.

Joe Rogan 48:06 Yeah.

Deric Poston 48:06 It's really just a fucking dojo to get better.

Joe Rogan 48:09 Yeah.

Deric Poston 48:09 And everything is about everyone pushing each other to get better and like learning together.

Joe Rogan 48:12 Yeah.

Deric Poston 48:12 It's like, oh my gosh, you've been on this teacher ship.

Joe Rogan 48:15 Well, that's also what my instructor explained to me when I was really young too. Like he, I, I say this all the time and I even said it on the podcast yesterday, martial arts are the, a vehicle for developing your human potential. That's what it is. It's just you're using martial arts as a way to get better at life, 'cause this is a really hard thing and if you could do this really hard thing, other things won't be as hard. You'll, you'll be able to... You'll have more mental and physical horsepower for regular everyday life. You'll have more ability to overcome adversity and weird moments, uncomfortable moments. You're used to being uncomfortable. It's fine, you'll be fine. It's different.

Deric Poston 48:54 Wow.

Joe Rogan 48:55 Yeah.

Deric Poston 48:56 See, I came up... I, I played football, college football. Like I was a football player my whole life. And it was-

Joe Rogan 49:01 Yep, bro, that was another one for brain damage.

Deric Poston 49:03 That you... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:03 Ha, pa, pa, pa. How's your head? How's your head, dog?

Deric Poston 49:05 (laughs) Because I'm addicted to training point, it's some problems.

Joe Rogan 49:08 (laughs)

Deric Poston 49:08 So I got some prob- I got some demons to... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:11 Ah.

Deric Poston 49:11 But, I grew... But the idea of like... 'cause that's so yourself, you're dealing with fighting, you're dealing with yourself.

Joe Rogan 49:16 You're always yourself, yeah.

Deric Poston 49:17 Whereas I, I, I came... My whole thing was team.

Joe Rogan 49:20 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 49:20 Team, you get to lean on people, you're leaning on each other.

Joe Rogan 49:22 Yeah.

Deric Poston 49:22 A- and that's what's making you better, is, is how do we play the best as a group?

Joe Rogan 49:26 Right.

Deric Poston 49:26 You know?

Joe Rogan 49:27 Well, that's great too and I think that's probably more beneficial to society, is learning how to play on a team. My problem was like...... you know, when I-

Narrator 49:34 Look at you.

Deric Poston 49:35 I was a bad motherfucker, dude. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:37 Bro, look at you. You're handsome all thin. Look at you.

Deric Poston 49:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:39 So handsome. You're good looking. You're like a fucking model, dog. Look at you.

Deric Poston 49:42 Oh, dude. I went to a... That's, uh, one of the top high school football schools in the country.

Joe Rogan 49:45 Bro, we gotta get you back to looking like that. You could look like that again.

Deric Poston 49:47 I know.

Joe Rogan 49:48 You just gotta lay off the carbs.

Deric Poston 49:49 I, they're so good.

Joe Rogan 49:50 (laughs)

Narrator 49:50 (laughs)

Deric Poston 49:51 They're so good, dude. Come on. (laughs) Hot Cheetos and pasta.

Joe Rogan 49:55 They're so good.

Narrator 49:56 They're so good.

Deric Poston 49:56 Oh my God. And then just, like, 'cause you stopped, you told me the other day you haven't been drinking again. You stopped drinking, right?

Joe Rogan 50:00 That's been, yeah, been more than a month now.

Deric Poston 50:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:02 A month and some weeks.

Deric Poston 50:04 You walked in and you were like, "Three weeks off, boys." I was like, "Jesus fuck, dude."

Joe Rogan 50:08 (laughs)

Deric Poston 50:08 This is incredible.

Joe Rogan 50:08 Bro, all, I had all this fucking side fat and belly fat that just went away. But most importantly, I just feel better. Like I never have days where I'm recovering from being drunk. Like I sound like shit now because I have allergies, which is hilarious 'cause I always made fun of people. I was like, they're like, "Yeah, in three to five years, you'll get allergies." I'm like, "Shut up, pussy."

Deric Poston 50:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:29 I'm not getting these fucking bitch ass allergies you guys get. Now, here I am. (sniffs) Ugh.

Deric Poston 50:35 Yeah. See you wiping your eyes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:36 Yeah. It's so annoying. It's so annoying f- for everybody to be right. (laughs)

Deric Poston 50:45 (laughs) Oh, yeah. My wife gets me on that honey, natural. If you get honey from a local honey-

Joe Rogan 50:50 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 50:50 ... it gets rid of your allergies.

Joe Rogan 50:51 I've heard that too, but, uh, the lady that we had in here that was a beekeeper says it's bullshit.

Deric Poston 50:56 Fuck.

Joe Rogan 50:56 Yeah. Not only that, she said most honey that, like, not most. She said a lot of honey that you buy in the store is not really honey. Yeah, they, they fuck you. They put, like, corn syrup and some fucking this and that and yeah, they've, they've, they have fake honey.

Deric Poston 51:11 Fuck, man.

Joe Rogan 51:11 Isn't that crazy?

Deric Poston 51:12 Is anything real?

Joe Rogan 51:13 Isn't that crazy?

Deric Poston 51:13 Why would they do that?

Joe Rogan 51:15 China.

Deric Poston 51:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:16 They're getting us.

Deric Poston 51:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:18 They're like, "These dummies, they're not gonna check." (laughs)

Deric Poston 51:20 They're not gonna check. (laughs) Because it's like-

Joe Rogan 51:21 Do you remember what she said, Jamie? What percentage she said, but she did say that s- a lot of honey was fake honey, right? Bro.

Deric Poston 51:28 It doesn't make sense 'cause that's such a thing that's been natural in my head since the dawn of time, right? Honey...

Joe Rogan 51:33 Mm-hmm. Have you ever seen those cats that, uh, in the Himalayas? I think it's in the, is it Tibet? Where is it where they get that, um, psychedelic honey? Called mad honey. Remember, Jamie?

Narrator 51:44 I think it's Tibet.

Joe Rogan 51:45 Who brought that in for us? We did it during the show.

Deric Poston 51:49 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 51:50 Yeah, we dr- we took some mad honey during the show.

Deric Poston 51:52 How was the trip?

Narrator 51:53 Uh, Sunny from Best Ever-

Joe Rogan 51:55 That's right.

Narrator 51:56 ... Food Review Show brought it.

Deric Poston 51:57 Shout out to Sunny. Um, uh, it wasn't, I mean, I was fine. Really didn't do anything that crazy. You definitely knew that you were on something, but we were, he was like, "Take a little bit." I'm like, "Fuck this. Give me a teaspoon." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:11 I took the whole teaspoon. (laughs) I'm like, "Let's go." (laughs) I'm like, "It's wanna, I wanna go."

Deric Poston 52:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:16 Like Joey Diaz always says, "I wanna meet the devil. Fuck your microdosing. I'm trying to meet the devil."

Deric Poston 52:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:22 (laughs)

Deric Poston 52:23 You guys are fucking crazy. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:26 I, I came from the Joey Diaz school.

Deric Poston 52:27 I would see you do that before stage. You would take a full nugget of a mushroom.

Joe Rogan 52:30 Shh, don't tell. The, the police are listening.

Deric Poston 52:32 Oh, okay, okay. (laughs) You were eating something. I don't know what it was.

Joe Rogan 52:34 I think that that is the first thing we have to make legal. We gotta get Trump on mushrooms.

Deric Poston 52:40 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 52:40 Just get him to have a little microdose, he'd be like, "I'm really killing the game."

Deric Poston 52:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:44 You are killing the game, sir.

Deric Poston 52:46 My wife is hot. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:47 Aren't these mushrooms great?

Deric Poston 52:48 Yeah. God, that'd be crazy to see him on mushrooms.

Joe Rogan 52:50 Oh my gosh.

Deric Poston 52:51 Just open it up.

Joe Rogan 52:51 Every politician should be on mushrooms. All wars would end. Do you know how crazy that is for me to say that? And it's also true. It sounds so stupid, also because it's me and I'm stupid.

Deric Poston 53:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:00 But if I, (laughs) but if like a, a, a sch- a scholar, if someone who you really trusted, the pinnacle of science today said-

Deric Poston 53:07 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:07 ... "If we could just go get the whole world on mushrooms, the whole, all the wars would stop."

Deric Poston 53:11 It's definitely believable.

Joe Rogan 53:12 Everyone would stop dehumanizing people. Everyone would stop treating people like others. Everyone would realize like, oh wow, we're, we're really all connected in some bizarre way that's difficult to interface with sometimes. But we're all connected. We get selfish and we think about ourself only, but if we can not, like y- that's like one of the beautiful things about comradery and community.

Deric Poston 53:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:37 If you can not, then you all sort of like lock in, you realize like, we're all experiencing this thing together. We're all like one thing that's separated by biology. But our, our soul, our spirit, our whatever it is that is us inside of our meat bag-

Deric Poston 53:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:55 ... is a soul and it's connected to all the other souls in some strange way.

Deric Poston 54:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:01 And if you can figure out, it's almost like you're listening to some... It's almost like there's jackhammers going off around you, but you hear a really good song in the distance. Like, "God, I can almost hear that song."

Deric Poston 54:12 Almost beautiful.

Joe Rogan 54:12 You know?

Deric Poston 54:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:13 Like you ever been in a restaurant and everybody's talking, but there's just some jam is playing on the radio and you're like, "Oh God, I wanna hear that song."

Deric Poston 54:21 Yeah, just some Marvin Gaye seeping through.

Joe Rogan 54:22 That's what it's like. That's what it's like.

Deric Poston 54:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:24 I think there's different strategies that people use to try to get there and I think l- God is one of them. Like even the concept of God, I think what you're trying to do is to get to that place where you recognize. Like through strategies of like tactics of following commandments and having a mindset and, and giving all your faith to Jesus and all your faith to just like... Just by act of doing that, what you're doing is you're trying to get closer and closer to whatever the fuck that, that beautiful, beautiful song is that's playing amongst all the noise.

Deric Poston 54:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:59 'Cause you know it's there. It's just like... You hear (singing) (snaps fingers) .

Deric Poston 55:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:05 (singing) Oh, man.

Deric Poston 55:10 Yeah. The, oh my, I, I remember, I don't know who, which comic said this, but it was great. I always thought it was a joke, but he said how people think they're Americans or Chinese or whatever, but we're all on this planet. Like just zoom out.

Joe Rogan 55:21 Yeah.

Deric Poston 55:21 Whatever you think you are, just zoom out a little bit.

Joe Rogan 55:23 It's a trap.

Deric Poston 55:24 It's just a trap.

Joe Rogan 55:24 It's like the Republican/Democrat trap. It's just like the Texas/California trap. Shut up.

Deric Poston 55:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:29 We're all just people. We're all people. And you f- that's one of the beautiful things about traveling. You meet friends in Scotland, you meet friends in Ireland, you meet friends in Australia.

Deric Poston 55:37 Fucking.

Joe Rogan 55:38 And like, people are just people, man. We're just all people. We just, we adapt to whatever our environment is. We adapt to the culture, the way people sound their words out, you know?

Deric Poston 55:48 Yeah, dude.

Joe Rogan 55:49 I wanna fit in. If you wanna fit in, you move to the South and you start saying, "Y'all."... you know? (laughs)

Deric Poston 55:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:54 You said y'all yet?

Deric Poston 55:55 Oh, I say y'all. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:57 (laughs) When did you start?

Deric Poston 55:58 But I'm, I'm from Memphis, Tennessee.

Joe Rogan 56:00 Oh, that's right.

Deric Poston 56:00 So I'm a little southern born.

Joe Rogan 56:01 So you'd always had s-

Deric Poston 56:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:02 ... yeah, you've always had a y'all pass.

Deric Poston 56:04 (laughs) Yeah. Yeah. I've been a y'all, I've been a y'all.

Joe Rogan 56:05 Yeah. I was born in New Jersey and I'm mostly Italian. For me, y'all is a stretch.

Deric Poston 56:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:10 That's a, that's... I don't wanna be disingenuous.

Deric Poston 56:13 Does it ever come out of you?

Joe Rogan 56:14 No.

Deric Poston 56:14 Never?

Joe Rogan 56:15 For funsies. Yeah.

Deric Poston 56:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:16 But it never accidentally comes out. Like, "Y'all, y'all gonna go?" You know, that, you know. I'm 57.

Deric Poston 56:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:22 I say you.

Deric Poston 56:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:23 Or you guys. It's like... (laughs)

Deric Poston 56:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:29 Like, accents are weird, man. You don't realize you have 'em until you hear 'em and you're like, "Oh."

Deric Poston 56:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:33 "Why do I sound like that?"

Deric Poston 56:35 And it's impressive when you see people who can do 'em.

Joe Rogan 56:37 I didn't know I had a, a deep Boston accent until I was on television for the first time when I was 19. I won the Bay State Games and I was on this, like, local TV news thing and I got a chance to hear myself on TV. I was like, "Oh my God, I sound like a fucking idiot." Like, what is... (laughs)

Deric Poston 56:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:55 Like heavy Boston accent.

Deric Poston 56:58 Yeah. You don't have it as bad. You-

Joe Rogan 56:59 I got rid of it.

Deric Poston 57:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:00 I'm like, "That's a dumbass accent." (laughs)

Deric Poston 57:05 (laughs) But then you started talking to everybody with a million different accents-

Joe Rogan 57:08 Yeah.

Deric Poston 57:08 ... on the pod. So you-

Joe Rogan 57:09 I know. You-

Deric Poston 57:09 So you heard all the different versions of-

Joe Rogan 57:11 You get neutral after a while, I think. Your, your voice gets neutral.

Deric Poston 57:15 But you're not all the way like newscaster neutral-

Joe Rogan 57:16 No.

Deric Poston 57:16 .... where it's just that, "And now." That kind of shit.

Joe Rogan 57:19 That's the opposite of comedy, right? 'Cause that doesn't hypnotize anybody.

Deric Poston 57:23 Oh, no.

Joe Rogan 57:23 When that guy's talking the news, like, "This is a presentation-"

Deric Poston 57:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:27 "... from NBC News."

Deric Poston 57:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:29 "Look at my tie, look at the pocket square."

Deric Poston 57:32 "I'm serious."

Joe Rogan 57:33 "I am a serious person." Most of those guys are freaks. That's what I, I lo- I- I love when those guys get caught.

Deric Poston 57:39 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:40 Just those guys are just doing coke and banging hookers-

Deric Poston 57:43 Just in a, in a harem of gay men. It's insane the things they do.

Joe Rogan 57:45 ... and punching valets.

Deric Poston 57:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:46 They're animals. These guys are... And then, "But on television, I present the news."

Deric Poston 57:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:51 Meanwhile, they're wearing a cock ring and... (laughs)

Deric Poston 57:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:55 Fucking freaks. All those like, all those people that pretend to be proper, those are the ones you gotta keep your eye on.

Deric Poston 58:01 Yeah. They never have real opinions either. It's all just whatever.

Joe Rogan 58:04 Oh-

Deric Poston 58:04 It's just a job.

Joe Rogan 58:05 Bill Cosby was the guy who pushed the most for clean comedy.

Deric Poston 58:08 Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

Joe Rogan 58:09 Yeah. That's... Is it though? Is it though? Like, like, scolding everybody for their language and their subject matter.

Deric Poston 58:17 God.

Joe Rogan 58:17 He would scold comedians.

Deric Poston 58:19 That Eddie Murphy bit is so good though, when he told-

Joe Rogan 58:21 Yeah.

Deric Poston 58:21 ... Richard Pryor that Bill Cosby... He's like, "You making money?" "Yeah." "Are there people laughing?"

Joe Rogan 58:24 "People laugh?"

Deric Poston 58:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:25 "Do you get paid?"

Deric Poston 58:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:26 "You tell Bill to have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up." (laughs)

Deric Poston 58:29 (laughs) That's one of the greatest jokes of all time, dude. It's so good.

Joe Rogan 58:35 Well, it was so good too because Eddie Murphy could do such good impressions.

Deric Poston 58:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:39 Yeah.

Deric Poston 58:40 And all the accents and all this shit.

Joe Rogan 58:41 He's another one, like, that should stop doing comedy. Like, if... Eddie Murphy would've been bigger than all of them. All the arena acts-

Deric Poston 58:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:46 ... we were talking about before, Eddie Murphy would've been bigger. Bigger.

Deric Poston 58:49 Wow.

Joe Rogan 58:49 Bro, he was so good. He was so powerful. Go back and watch Delirious. Oh my God. He was, like, 20.

Deric Poston 58:57 Hey, that's what's crazy.

Joe Rogan 58:58 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 58:58 Whenever I do watch Delirious, I'm like, "He's-"

Joe Rogan 58:59 He was like 20 murdering.

Deric Poston 59:00 And he's got full command of this, what? 4,000 seater, 5,000 seater?

Joe Rogan 59:04 Murdering. Wearing a leather jumpsuit or some shit.

Deric Poston 59:09 Chest out.

Joe Rogan 59:10 (laughs)

Deric Poston 59:10 Fucking abs out, dude. Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 59:14 Yeah. It was crazy. It's... But it's interesting, like, people, people... the paths they choose in life, you know?

Deric Poston 59:21 Movies. Movies be calling, they call him.

Joe Rogan 59:22 I think it's a velvet prison.

Deric Poston 59:25 Yeah. I've heard you say that-

Joe Rogan 59:26 Yeah.

Deric Poston 59:26 ... to Hasan once about, uh, writing jobs. He's like, "It's a velvet prison."

Joe Rogan 59:29 Yeah. That's another velvet prison. But, like, I'm sure Damon Wayans had a good time making all those TV shows, but it wouldn't have been amazing to see him being this guy that's, like, selling out arenas all over the world? Like, that's where-

Deric Poston 59:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:40 ... it should be. That's where it should've been.

Deric Poston 59:41 He would still be doing it right now.

Joe Rogan 59:43 He could do it right now. He could just abandon all that TV nonsense right now and go back to it and still be one of the best alive.

Deric Poston 59:51 I wonder what I think though.

Joe Rogan 59:51 You know that guy records, like, every show? He has a camera that he takes with him on a tripod. He sets it up, he records every fucking show and he puts 'em all on his computer. He goes, "I've been doing this since '94." I'm like, "Wow." Yeah.

Deric Poston 1:00:05 That's so many fi-... And-

Joe Rogan 1:00:06 Mm-hmm.

Deric Poston 1:00:06 And how many specials he ha- he doesn't have-

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 No. Doesn't have a lot of specials.

Deric Poston 1:00:09 Yeah. Compared to other guys where you see these, like-

Joe Rogan 1:00:11 Not compared to how good he is.

Deric Poston 1:00:13 Doesn't make sense.

Joe Rogan 1:00:14 Yeah. It's crazy. You just... You know, someone's paying you. You go. You enjoy your work. You like it. You know, there's nothing wrong with those decisions.

Deric Poston 1:00:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:22 And he's obviously very successful. But, you know, when you... You gotta think, like, when you see guys like Schultz selling out arenas and Burt selling out arenas and Tony selling out arenas, it's like, it's... Don't you wanna get in on that?

Deric Poston 1:00:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:35 Like, come on, man. Talk to me, Damon. I help, I'll help you.

Deric Poston 1:00:39 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 1:00:39 Yeah.

Deric Poston 1:00:39 That'd be sick to see him make a comeback like that.

Joe Rogan 1:00:41 Yeah. I'd love to see him do that. I just think after a while, do you really wanna work for somebody? Do you really wanna show up and, you know, read the script and do the table? I mean, do you wanna do that?

Deric Poston 1:00:53 No.

Joe Rogan 1:00:53 Fuck.

Deric Poston 1:00:54 I love just showing up eight o'clock.

Joe Rogan 1:00:58 (laughs)

Deric Poston 1:00:58 Oh man. Get up four or five times in a night. Oh, there's nothing... I love it, dude. I mean, the idea of doing some stuff seems fun, but the... to make it my... I saw Seinfeld say that. He was like, "Man, this is..." It's one of the... We have one of the few jobs where people want this job.

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 Yeah.

Deric Poston 1:01:14 How many... Like, very rarely do I see a... I don't know if there's a... There's no job where I'm like, "Oh, I'd like to... really like to be that."

Joe Rogan 1:01:20 Yeah.

Deric Poston 1:01:20 This is the job.

Joe Rogan 1:01:21 It's one of them. That's for sure. Rock star is probably the big one, right?

Deric Poston 1:01:24 Rock star's probably the biggest.

Joe Rogan 1:01:25 Yeah.

Deric Poston 1:01:26 But I don't... I at least-

Joe Rogan 1:01:27 See, the rock star thing, they could sing the same ass song every night forever.

Deric Poston 1:01:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 Like if you're The Rolling Stones, you could still sing Brown Sugar. Nope. Can't sing it anymore.

Deric Poston 1:01:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:37 Can't sing that one.

Deric Poston 1:01:38 No, wait a minute.

Joe Rogan 1:01:39 They don't sing Brown Sugar anymore.

Deric Poston 1:01:40 No. Come on.

Joe Rogan 1:01:41 Bro, you ever listen- see the lyrics to Brown Sugar?

Deric Poston 1:01:44 What are the actual lyrics?

Joe Rogan 1:01:45 Oh.

Deric Poston 1:01:47 What is it, Joseph? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:49 There's a reason why they don't sing it anymore. It's a great song, don't get me wrong. It's still on my Spotify playlist.

Deric Poston 1:01:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 But if you... I think it... I might've pulled it out. I might've got scared.... wait till you see the lyrics.

Deric Poston 1:01:59 That playlist is crazy long.

Joe Rogan 1:02:00 It's great. Yeah, the playlist is-

Deric Poston 1:02:01 Oh, we get, we get turnt up in there.

Joe Rogan 1:02:03 I, we do. I think that playlist is, like, 35 hours long now. Let me see.

Deric Poston 1:02:07 (laughs) You keep adding to it.

Joe Rogan 1:02:08 I keep adding to it.

Deric Poston 1:02:09 You keep adding to it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:09 I love it. Yeah.

Deric Poston 1:02:10 'Cause every once in a while, I look up-

Joe Rogan 1:02:11 33. 33 hours and 49 minutes.

Deric Poston 1:02:14 Yeah. I love it when we're in there, and then I'll, I'll be like, "Who the fuck is playing this?" And I look up, you're just like...

Joe Rogan 1:02:18 (laughs)

Deric Poston 1:02:18 (laughs) And it's like, "Joe, who, who got you on the Black Panther album?"

Joe Rogan 1:02:22 (laughs)

Deric Poston 1:02:22 Or whoever the... You'll just listen to some random shit. (laughs) "Hey, who got you on this?"

Joe Rogan 1:02:25 Oh, yeah, I love a good random shit. Like, if I'm in a bar and s-... I hear some cool random song, I love, like... That's why I love that Shazam app.

Deric Poston 1:02:33 Ooh, that's-

Joe Rogan 1:02:33 Oh, that's so nice.

Deric Poston 1:02:34 ... top tier.

Joe Rogan 1:02:34 Here it is. Yeah, Gold coast slave ship bound for cotton fields. Sold in a market down in New Orleans. Scarred old slaver knows he's doing all right. Hear him whip the women just around midnight. Brown sugar, how come you taste so good? Brown sugar just like a young girl should.

Deric Poston 1:02:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:54 Oh, yeah, yeah. Drums beating, cold English brood-... blood runs hot. Lady of the house wondering if, w- w- wondering where it's gonna stop. Houseboy knows that he's doing all right. You shoulda heard him just around midnight. This song's horrific.

Deric Poston 1:03:09 This song's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:03:10 Brown sugar, how comes he taste so good? Brown sugar just like a young girl should.

Deric Poston 1:03:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:14 Oh, yeah, yeah. Uh, uh, get down on the ground, brown sugar. How come you taste so good? Ah, get down, get down, brown sugar, just like a young girl should.

Deric Poston 1:03:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:24 I bet your mama was a tent show queen. And all her boyfriends were sweet 16. I'm no schoolboy, but I know what I like. You shoulda heard me just around midnight. This song's crazy.

Deric Poston 1:03:36 He was fucking... Mick Jagger was losing his mind. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:38 This is a crazy song. This is... To write all this down... Slave ship? Did you say slave ship?

Deric Poston 1:03:42 Slave ship?

Joe Rogan 1:03:42 Just like a young girl should... What do you... What?

Deric Poston 1:03:45 (laughs) That brown sugar, you taste so good.

Joe Rogan 1:03:47 Sold in a market? What? And, and it... Scroll down a little bit. This was another one that I, that I... I'm not sure what they're saying here. Hold on. Uh, go, scroll down a little bit. Oh, yeah. "I bet your mama was a tent show queen."

Deric Poston 1:04:00 What does that mean?

Joe Rogan 1:04:01 What does that mean?

Deric Poston 1:04:02 What the fuck does that mean?

Joe Rogan 1:04:03 What is a tent show queen? What's a tent show?

Deric Poston 1:04:06 Well, it's... Whatever it is, she's getting fucked. I don't know- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:08 Something horrible is happening.

Deric Poston 1:04:09 Whatever's happening in that tent.

Joe Rogan 1:04:10 That song is cra-... So they don't play that song anymore when you go see The Stones?

Deric Poston 1:04:15 You saw them. You've seen them live, right?

Joe Rogan 1:04:16 Yeah. Bro, you see them live, you can't believe you're, they're really there. They're like, you're like, "Was... Is that really them?" It just seems so strange. A tent show.

Deric Poston 1:04:26 Yeah, they're probably one of the, if not... No, they're definitely one of the biggest bands of all time.

Joe Rogan 1:04:29 Tent shows are a generic term for traveling shows that pitch tents. So a tent show queen would have been a featured performer, probably in a vaudeville act. If the song is progressing forward in time, the fact that she had a 16-year-old boyfriend suggests she's either extremely sexually liberal or, more likely, prostituting herself. If she's prostituting herself, the power dynamic is reiterated, a Black woman at the mercy of paying white men. Huh? What kind of fucking scholarly take on this-

Deric Poston 1:05:03 Yeah, I know. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:03 ... song is that?

Deric Poston 1:05:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:05 What is that? What are they saying? This is so dra-... weird.

Deric Poston 1:05:09 No, that's fucking crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:05:10 That was-... That was a weird definition.

Narrator 1:05:12 Yeah, there's a website that gives you insight on lyrics. It's crowdsourced, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's accurate.

Joe Rogan 1:05:17 Oh, I see.

Narrator 1:05:18 Just-

Joe Rogan 1:05:19 I see.

Narrator 1:05:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:19 'Cause I'm reading this, I'm like, "The power dynamic is reiterated." What? "A Black woman at the mercy of paying white men."

Deric Poston 1:05:27 Yeah, w-

Joe Rogan 1:05:27 "She advertises herself during the show and then sleeps on the side."

Deric Poston 1:05:31 If... What is that...

Joe Rogan 1:05:32 I'm not... Yeah.

Deric Poston 1:05:35 Those shows, though. Have you ever seen any of those, those black box shows?

Joe Rogan 1:05:37 Those people used to be monsters.

Deric Poston 1:05:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:40 They were monsters.

Deric Poston 1:05:41 Yeah, dude.

Joe Rogan 1:05:41 They were monsters. And carnies, carnies would come into town, these carnival people, and rob everybody and steal and probably murder. Just dirty people traveling around trying to stay alive and conning people out of their money and... You know, the bearded ladies.

Deric Poston 1:05:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:58 Got fucking glued hair stuck to