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Joe Rogan Experience #2311 - Jeremie & Edouard Harris

Jeremie Harris is the CEO and Edouard Harris the CTO of Gladstone AI, a company dedicated to promoting the responsible development and adoption of artificial intelligence.

Joe RoganhostJeremie HarrisguestEdouard Harrisguest
Apr 25, 20252h 47mWatch on YouTube ↗

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EPISODE INFO

Released
April 25, 2025
Duration
2h 47m
Channel
The Joe Rogan Experience
Watch on YouTube
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Jeremie Harris is the CEO and Edouard Harris the CTO of Gladstone AI, a company dedicated to promoting the responsible development and adoption of artificial intelligence. https://superintelligence.gladstone.ai/

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  • Joe Rogan

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  • Jeremie Harris

    guest
  • Edouard Harris

    guest

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Narrator, Joe Rogan Experience #2311 - Jeremie & Edouard Harris explores AI Doomsday, China’s Espionage, And America’s Fraying Technological Edge Joe Rogan talks with Jeremie and Edouard Harris about how rapidly AI capabilities are advancing, with current systems already automating a growing share of high‑skill work and potentially reaching human‑level research ability around 2027. They argue this brings both existential AI risks and immediate geopolitical dangers, especially from China’s industrial espionage, cyber operations, and control of key chip and power infrastructure. A major thread is how vulnerable U.S. AI labs, data centers, and critical infrastructure are to foreign penetration, and how American regulation, bureaucracy, and corporate incentives are slowing needed defenses. They close by stressing that the U.S. must simultaneously improve AI control, harden infrastructure, and adopt a more assertive, less complacent national‑security posture before a major shock forces action.

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