Joe Rogan Experience #2317 - Cody Tucker

1. 0:00 – 15:00

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   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) All right, we're up. What up, dog? What are the odds that I contact you on Instagram- (laughs) ... and the fucking day you're here is the day your book comes out? It's, uh, pretty unlikely. Kind of crazy. Little bit. Right? Yeah, yeah. You know, it's kind of like the universe smiled upon us. (laughs) You know what I mean? It's like, it, it- Yeah. ... synchronicity, if you wanna believe in the simulation. Sometimes I do. I'm with you. I, sometimes you just see something, you're like, "This is, this is a simulation, right?" Right. "We're not in the real..." Yeah. There's, there's a second and a third and a fourth and so on. Sometimes just things seem like God is showing you satire. Like, the- (laughs) ... like, there's, like, just a little fun thrown in there with- I'm with you. ... and a lot of it is on your Instagram page. Mm-hmm. I have to tell you, dude, I have s- wasted so much fucking time- (laughs) ... so much time watching your videos going- Yeah. ... "What the fuck?" (laughs) "Is that real?" Yeah, yeah. And so many things I've learned from it. It's actually, it's very educational. Yeah. But it's also very fun. Thank you. Um, Cody Tucker. I love to, like- Your book is called And Now You Know. And, uh- And Now You Know. ... I didn't even know you had a book when I reached out to you. I just said, "This guy's gotta be interesting." Like... Yeah, I mean, that remains to be seen, I think. (laughs) But we'll, we'll find out together. Well, you are on Instagram. Thank you. How did you get started doing that, uh, type of a page? 'Cause it's very specific. Yeah. I, I mean, I've always been interested in, like, random facts, like, you know, m- origin stories of words, like movies, all these different things, like the, you know, dark side of history. Right. And I like telling people those stories. And they seem to enjoy it whenever I tell them, so I was like, well why don't I just, like, make little videos and clip 'em, you know, clip 'em up, make 'em look all right. What were you doing before you were doing that? I mean, I've always had a podcast. No one watches this thing, so it's all right. (laughs) Well, let's, we'll bump that bitch up now. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, it might change now, but, um, yeah. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily recommend watching the podcast, but it is, it exists. Ah, that's hilarious. So, that's all right. But, uh, yeah. That is, by the way, so much better than, "Please watch my podcast. Like and subscribe." Whenever a video gets interrupted by- Nah. ... "Like and subscribe," the last thing I wanna do is like and subscribe. Like, come on. No. I s- I mean, I'd rather you just, if you watch it and like it, well, thank you. If you don't, get- you get in line. There's others. Well, that's how podcasts get good. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's what I started out doing with this. I never advertised this thing once. Yeah. This, this- (laughs) ... thing got where it is 100% word of mouth. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. 'Cause I m- I started watching pretty early, and it was, but it still had, like, a pretty decent following then. But I know you, like, you started, like, even earlier. We started in 2009. Yeah, so this would've been, like, year, couple years after that, even, that I started watching what it was. But when I started, you know, me and my friend, Brian, when we started, we weren't even thinking it was a podcast. We- Yeah. ... we had already done these things where we'd stream live from the green room at comedy clubs. Right. Yeah. Back when it was on Justin.tv, which became what, Jamie? Twitch. Twitch. So we would just be- Okay. ... you know, like, Joey would be talking shit in the green room. Yeah, yeah. And we'd be having fun, and, you know, we'd just film it just for fun. Gotcha. And then, um, I had a few friends that started doing internet shows. Tom Green was the big one. 'Cause Tom Green- Yeah. ... had it all set up at his house. He's incredible, too. Oh, he's the best. Yeah. He's such a sweetheart, too. Yeah. So, like, such a s- everything you would hope he'd be, that's who he is. Great, great fucking guy. Yeah. And, you know, like, really a forward-thinker early on. He was like- Yeah. ... "I think I can just do this from my house. Why don't I just do..." Yeah. But it was too early. Like, this is 2007, and the internet sucked. It wasn't ready yet. Yeah, yeah. You know, no one had smartphones yet. It was, like ... Yeah. But he was patient zero, I think. Gotcha. Him, and then there was this, uh, Opie and Anthony Show that I used to do. Oh, they were amazing. They were amazing. And, but- Yeah. ... Anthony Cumia started doing this thing live from the compound in his basement- Uh-huh. ... where he would do karaoke with a green screen, holding a machine gun. He was fucking- That's incredible. ... he's nuts. He's out of his mind. (laughs) And he had, like- Yeah. ... beers on tap, so they'd be getting hammered. Jesus. He's playing video games. He's a maniac. Yeah. And, and I was like, "That looks like so much fun." I was like- Yeah. ... "He just has a studio that he set up in his basement." Yeah. And so we just started fucking around with the m- most bare of equipment. It was a fucking laptop webcam. Yeah. Jesus Christ. And, uh, we had, like, a USB mic. Yeah. Okay. We had one of them blue mics. Yeah, the blue, yeah. The big, stupid silver ones. We had one of those. It's, like, 30 bucks at Walmart. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. That's how we started. And then- Oh. ... it, you know, we just kept doing it. But s- telling people not to go to your podcast is classic. That's very fun. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's, yeah, that's usually my thing. 'Cause if, there are people that do watch it, and I think they like it. And I like those people. (laughs) I'm glad, I'm glad those people are around. But it's not f- it's not something that should ever become popular. Well, you know, there's two schools of thought today with, uh, the youngins like yourself. Yeah. It's like, just get famous at any cost. Yeah. Get on TikTok. Yeah. Share your dick on OnlyFans. What, whatever you have to do. Yeah, been there, done that, yeah. Or not. Right? Yeah. Or fuck that. Right. And that, you're in the fuck that category. Yeah. I d- I could care less about being f- having anyone know who the fuck I am. Which, granted- Good. ... here, you know, here I am, which stuff's kinda odd. I know, it's nuts. But ... That's the, but that's also why you're here, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's also why your book came out today. It's like, there's a synchronicity going on. Yeah. Something. There's something, where like- Something's happening. ... things are crossing over that I didn't ... So you just d- you did your podcast. Yeah. And in those stories that you would tell on the podcast- Mm-hmm. ... where you would drop some crazy information- Exactly. Yeah, I did, yeah. ... then you s- decided to start clipping them up. Exactly. So the, I would end it with just, like, oh, here's some, like, half-assed history, which is what I called, like, the segment. And then, uh, I was like, oh, here's, like, a half-assed cig- half-assed history segment and just ramble about some bullshit from, like, Napoleon or something. I binged 'em today. (laughs) And, uh, what- Serious? Sorry. 'Cause, you know, was getting ready for you to come in. No, it was fun. It was fun. (laughs) You, you really freaked me out with the whole Outlaw Josey Wales thing. Like, I love that movie. Dude. And now I'm like, "Oh, no." Yeah, can't watch it anymore. Oh, no. It's the guy who wrote the book that turned into the, I mean, I mean ... Tell the story, 'cause it's so crazy.

   3. CTCody Tucker6:20

      ... yeah, there was a fellow named Asa Carter. So, Asa Carter is this massive white supremacist. Like, he was in the KKK, and then left the KKK (laughs) because they weren't racist enough.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:30

      (laughs)

   5. CTCody Tucker6:30

      They... He was like, "Y'all don't hate Black people way more..."

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:34

      (laughs)

   7. CTCody Tucker6:34

      Like, "Y'all should be hating these people way more than you should."

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:36

      Ugh.

   9. CTCody Tucker6:36

      So, he made his own version, like a splinter group of the KKK. And, uh, I mean, he was part of like... He would show up to, like, Nat "King" Cole concerts, try to drag him off the stage, you know? Like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:48

       Oh, my God.

   11. CTCody Tucker6:49

       And, um, he became a speech writer for George Wallace. Not the comic but, you know, um, the-

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:55

       The governor.

   13. CTCody Tucker6:56

       ... the governor of Alabama, George Wallace, who was, you know, the, "Segregation now, segregation forever." He was a speech writer-

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:02

       As you said, a massive piece of shit-

   15. CTCody Tucker7:03

       Massive.

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:04

       ... in the video.

   17. CTCody Tucker7:04

       Horrible human being.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:06

       Yeah.

   19. CTCody Tucker7:06

       I mean, (laughs) yeah. Just an all-around-

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:09

       Yeah.

   21. CTCody Tucker7:09

       ... knucklehead.

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:09

       So, he's speech writer for that guy?

   23. CTCody Tucker7:10

       He helped write that speech. The, uh, "Segregation now, segregation forever." He was a co-writer of that speech. Then things kind of fell apart from him. George Wallace was like, "You're too racist for me, buddy."

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:22

       (laughs)

   25. CTCody Tucker7:22

       Like, like, "I just don't want them to go to school with my kids."

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:25

       Ugh.

   27. CTCody Tucker7:25

       Like, it's like, "I don't want them to not exist."

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:27

       Oh, my God.

   29. CTCody Tucker7:27

       And, uh, yeah. So, he, uh, moved to Florida, changed his name kinda, I think, to Forrest Carter, I think is what he changed his name to, and started writing books. One of them was the Rebel Outlaw Josey Wales, which, you know, Clint Eastwood turned into-

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:43

       God.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   For... Yeah, yeah, yeah.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      the talent coordinator at the Mothership.

   2. CTCody Tucker15:01

      For... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      So I'd known Norm forever. And then one time, I was flying back from somewhere and I sit down and then, pfft, Norm plops right next to me. I'm like, "Dude, like what are going on?"

   4. CTCody Tucker15:12

      How you doing? (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      And we're having the most fun. It was the most fun.

   6. CTCody Tucker15:15

      That's awesome.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      But the second time was even crazier 'cause Norm sits down next to me, we're having a great time.

   8. CTCody Tucker15:20

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      Just laughing and he's just so fun. We're talking all kinds of crazy shit. And, uh, he tells me, "Yeah, I quit smoking." And, uh, "Fucking hard to do, man, but I quit. I feel so much better. I'm so glad I did. I mean, it's so bad for you."

   10. CTCody Tucker15:34

       Yeah. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       I go, "Yeah, good for you, dude. Uh, fuck those cigarettes." Right?

   12. CTCody Tucker15:37

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       So we land and he walks straight into the store-

   14. CTCody Tucker15:42

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       ... and buys a pack of cigarettes-

   16. CTCody Tucker15:45

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       ... and is literally lighting it before he gets out the door.

   18. CTCody Tucker15:49

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       And I go, "What are you doing? I thought you quit?" And he goes, "Yeah, but all that talking about cigarettes made me want one." (laughs)

   20. CTCody Tucker15:56

       (laughs) I mean, he did quit for a little bit and then when he landed-

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       I know a lot, I know a lot of people who have quit.

   22. CTCody Tucker16:03

       ... you know. That's all you need to do. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       And a lot of people, I mean, they keep pointing to, like, it's like everyone's playing Russian roulette with fucking lung cancer. It's so crazy.

   24. CTCody Tucker16:12

       Yeah. Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       You're probably right, like, "Ah, 80% of the people don't even get cancer, bro." Like... (laughs)

   26. CTCody Tucker16:17

       Which I'll take those all. I mean, look, I'll tell you, smoking just looks so cool.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:22

       Yeah.

   28. CTCody Tucker16:22

       Smoking cigarettes, like, God, I smoke cigarettes, which I need to not do that, but God-

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       It does.

   30. CTCody Tucker16:29

       I do feel cool.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   (laughs) Atlantis. Yeah, yeah.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      go down the CIA rabbit hole, you'll find a city. Like, a civilization stuck in it. (laughs)

   2. CTCody Tucker30:04

      (laughs) Atlantis. Yeah, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      And then you have to think, okay, but also Russia has the same sort of, mm, uh, operation going for Russia.

   4. CTCody Tucker30:13

      Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      Right?

   6. CTCody Tucker30:13

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      Every country has them.

   8. CTCody Tucker30:15

      Yeah, everybody has a CIA, KGB. I mean...

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      So they have to exist.

   10. CTCody Tucker30:18

       Secret police, all that.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:19

       So, like...... let's all get rid of the CIA, and then what? We get taken over completely by Russia and China? It's like, slow down, everybody.

   12. CTCody Tucker30:26

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Like there's a, a nutty AI war going on-

   14. CTCody Tucker30:29

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       ... right in front of your face.

   16. CTCody Tucker30:30

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       You just haven't heard the bombs go off yet.

   18. CTCody Tucker30:32

       Right. Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       It's happening right now.

   20. CTCody Tucker30:35

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:36

       And if they pulled that off from the University of Zurich, which is kinda creepy-

   22. CTCody Tucker30:40

       Hmm. Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       ... um, that a university would like do that, pretend to be a, you know, a Black guy who's against the Black Lives Matter movement-

   24. CTCody Tucker30:49

       We've all been there.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       ... and a woman who survived a sexual assault, you're just making it up-

   26. CTCody Tucker30:53

       Yeah. Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       ... with AI chat bots. Like this is-

   28. CTCody Tucker30:54

       That's insane. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       ... fucking wild. And just to see how people react.

   30. CTCody Tucker30:58

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      it driven me home three or four times. Just like, "Toot-toot." And just like, "This is crazy." Just 'cause it's weird.

   2. CTCody Tucker45:05

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      Yeah.

   4. You know, but I'm always ... My hands are close, you know. I'm n- I'm never, like, looking at my phone or anything like that. That's crazy.

   5. CTCody Tucker45:10

      I'd n- I would trust that. Like, if you're, you know, just sitting in there and, like, kind of ... You, you could take control if you n- if need be. But the br-

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      But that's the bridge, bro.

   7. CTCody Tucker45:19

      Yeah, I don't like the bridge.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      That's the bridge.

   9. CTCody Tucker45:20

      I don't like a bridge.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:21

       That's the bridge to transhumanism.

   11. CTCody Tucker45:23

       No, I think we all need to stay in our separate worlds.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:25

       (sighs)

   13. CTCody Tucker45:25

       No bridges. No-

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:26

       I agree, but I think-

   15. CTCody Tucker45:28

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       ... we're going.

   17. CTCody Tucker45:28

       Nah, nah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:29

       I think we are the last of these kind of people.

   19. CTCody Tucker45:32

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       And then the people from now on will be, like, personally, like, physically integrated with some kind of electronics.

   21. CTCody Tucker45:38

       Yeah, I don't like that one bit.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:40

       Dude, there's-

   23. CTCody Tucker45:41

       I'm too much of an acoustic type fella. I can't be.

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       I think there's so much wild genetic stuff going on right now that-

   25. CTCody Tucker45:48

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       They're gonna change what it means to be a person within our lifetime.

   27. CTCody Tucker45:53

       Mm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       Like, there's some ... There was a thing in China. See if you could find this, um ... Y- do you know what a tardigrade is?

   29. CTCody Tucker46:00

       No.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       I don't know.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:03:15

   Interesting. …

   1. CTCody Tucker1:00:00

      any... when it comes to that, I don't have any of that autism.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      Interesting.

   3. CTCody Tucker1:00:02

      I just have the weird, like, I-can't-handle-too-many-sounds autism.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

      Oh, interesting.

   5. CTCody Tucker1:00:06

      Yeah, no, I can't handle a lot of stimulus, and then I make playlists or do jigsaw puzzles.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      Hmm.

   7. CTCody Tucker1:00:13

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      Interesting.

   9. CTCody Tucker1:00:14

      Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or, or read 24/7 and look up random, you know, bullshit to-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

       But that's the superpower of it, right?

   11. CTCody Tucker1:00:22

       I think so. I mean, I've, uh, yeah, I, I'm glad I have it, you know?

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       (laughs)

   13. CTCody Tucker1:00:26

       I don't know if I'm really autistic, but if I am, I'm glad I have it, you know?

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       (laughs)

   15. CTCody Tucker1:00:30

       I'd much rather have that.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       Well, are you self-diagnosed?

   17. CTCody Tucker1:00:31

       Of course.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       Oh, there you go.

   19. CTCody Tucker1:00:33

       I'm self-diagnosed right at the top-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       But you are a doctor though, right?

   21. CTCody Tucker1:00:35

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       Well, yeah.

   23. CTCody Tucker1:00:36

       Sure.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       Well, that's fine then.

   25. CTCody Tucker1:00:37

       I mean, as much as, you know, as much as anybody else is.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       Uh, I'm guilty as charged. I've self-diagnosed myself with ADHD.

   27. CTCody Tucker1:00:43

       Yeah, but you, but, you know, but you know yourself better than anybody else.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       Yeah.

   29. CTCody Tucker1:00:47

       So, you should be able to self-diagnose yourself.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       Well, I don't think necessarily ADHD is even totally real.

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