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Nicotine pouches, health claims, and the “fiberglass in dip” myth
- ARAaron Rodgers
(drumming intro) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What'd you start with? Chew?
- ARAaron Rodgers
Uh, Kodiak.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, okay.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's rough.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a lot. So you could... 16-
- ARAaron Rodgers
But these are much better now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, these are good.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
These loosies are good. I like these too. These are athletic nicotines. These are threes. These are like... They don't fuck you up.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're mild.
- 0:29 – 2:12
From nicotine to information warfare: “If the internet says it, it must be true”
- ARAaron Rodgers
I wonder, though. Do you wonder at all... There's a lot of these studies coming out now about how good nicotine is for you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Where'd that come from?
- ARAaron Rodgers
I don't know. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, all these nicotine pouches are selling like crazy.
- ARAaron Rodgers
It's like we're in the 1950s. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ARAaron Rodgers
You got... Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"These're good smoking when you're pre- when you're pregnant." (laughs)
- ARAaron Rodgers
These are great for you. Pregnant women. You know, if you're sick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I think there's real benefit to nicotine because that's been proven for a long time. It's just always been the delivery method that's the problem.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah. Yeah, the Kodiaks and the other ones, there's a lot of other stuff in there that's not great for you.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm sure. What is the one that has, like, actual glass in it that, like-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Probably Kodiak or Grizzly, one of those two.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, I think it's Skoal.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Apologies if that's wrong to those companies.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, b- apologies to any company that we talk about. (laughs)
- ARAaron Rodgers
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
People don't fucking buy it anyway. They're like, "Oh, good, glass in it? Good. Makes it better."
- ARAaron Rodgers
Cuts your lip, gets it in there quicker.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think that's the idea, like, like there's something abrasive in one of them that, that, like, uh, it allows the nicotine to get into your bloodstream quicker.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Are you sure, you sure just one of them? I feel like it's, it's a few of them. Yeah? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm sure you can find anything out about that. Yeah, that's, that doesn't seem good.
- ARAaron Rodgers
But these are hot right now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
I mean, not in California, 'cause you can't get anything that is flavored.
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't it funny? Nothing flavored.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah. Nothing flavored.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fucking what a shithole. God, I'm so glad I left that fucking place. "Is there fiberglass in tobac- " Fiberglass?
- NANarrator
That was the rumor, yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
It's a complete myth.
- 2:12 – 4:14
Harvard researcher arrested over frog embryos and the uneven justice system
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) We were talking about this lady-
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that got arrested, uh, and she was bringing in frog embryos and they're trying to deport her to Russia, illegally bringing in frogs. She's a researcher.
- ARAaron Rodgers
For what?
- JRJoe Rogan
Research, I guess?
- NANarrator
So here's the article. I have... This is a different article than the one you sent me. This is the one from April I found, that still talks about her arrest and everything.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, so she, um, is also working on some cancer detection-
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... technology.
- NANarrator
This article says that no one can fully unlock the data's potential except her.
- ARAaron Rodgers
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- NANarrator
Uh-huh. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Interesting.
- NANarrator
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And that's why they want to lock her up.
- NANarrator
Well...
- JRJoe Rogan
It can't- It can't just be frogs. She's working for Harvard and she's got frog embryos that are, uh, illegally being brought back to the United States?
- NANarrator
Yeah, something I was reading said that this generally is a fine, sometimes maybe a couple of months of detention, but she's also asking to not be deported back to Russia. She wants to go to France, and that's part of the issue too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it might be a thing where Putin's like, "You have woman-"
- ARAaron Rodgers
Oh, if she's an anti... She protested against the war in Ukraine.
- NANarrator
Yeah. She got a submission. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, okay.
- NANarrator
There's a lot going on.
- JRJoe Rogan
"You have woman that we are very interested in, and we put frogs in her backpack."
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- ARAaron Rodgers
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"You will find her with these frogs and then you will send her back to us. We have to talk to her."
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And they probably don't want to talk to her unless she... Well, if she- If she's been locked up since February for frogs?
- 4:14 – 6:13
Leaving California, praising Texas, and the politics of COVID-era governance
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, I'm biased. I think right here. I like Texas. This is the last stand. (laughs) This is the fucking- This is the Alamo.
- ARAaron Rodgers
It is pretty impressive.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Just how they've been able to sustain and... You know, what happened with COVID and...
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. Yeah, there's been a few states that held the line during COVID and it just shows you the importance of good government.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or just government that allows people to just be free and operate the way they'd like to.
- ARAaron Rodgers
I know there's a lot of Texans who wanted to keep the, um, California out of Texas if you moved here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. That's a good i- idea.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because a lot of these retards are coming here with some of the same ideas-
- ARAaron Rodgers
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... that they left with. "Well, we've got to get away from these people, but why is everyone here voting red? You shouldn't be voting red. You need to be voting bl- " There's, like, cult members. There's, like, Democrat cult members. There's reasonable people-
- ARAaron Rodgers
It's the- It's blue no matter- no matter who, but...
- JRJoe Rogan
That's good- It's so goofy.
- ARAaron Rodgers
You know, some of these cities-
- JRJoe Rogan
Red till I'm dead. All that shit's goofy.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Maybe. Look at the beautiful cities that we used to have in California.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God. I just-
- ARAaron Rodgers
What's happened to them?
- JRJoe Rogan
I used to love LA. I used to love it. Every time I went back there, I'd be like, "I'm back." When I'd travel on the road-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I'd be like, "Thank God I'm back in LA." It's always sunny. People are cool. It's easygoing. And then COVID just- just a big reality smack of how important government is.
- ARAaron Rodgers
You know what I'm seeing recently that makes me laugh? Um, is people driving Teslas, but they've either removed the emblem on the back-
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh.
- ARAaron Rodgers
... or they have a sticker that says-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
... like, an anti-Musk Tesla group or something.
- JRJoe Rogan
I bought this before Elon went crazy.
- ARAaron Rodgers
(laughs) I'd say 70% of them are wearing a mask driving still, but...
- 6:13 – 8:09
Tesla backlash, Elon’s media coverage, and why “good causes” hide slush funds
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's also the... There's a lot of, you know... It's the USAID stuff, really. It's, (sniffs) it's hard to say. I had Amanda Knox on here yesterday and she was talking about-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Oh, did you?
- JRJoe Rogan
... this program that was, uh, that, you know, was, uh, a- an innocence program where you're, they're trying to release, uh, wrongly accused people, and that it, it got defunded. And I said, "Well, was there anything inappropriate about what they were doing?" Like, 'cause there's a... The unfortunate reality of, uh, having conversations with Elon about this, both publicly and privately, like there's a lot of stuff that it looks good on the outside, and then you find out you have this amazing slush fund.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You have fucking billions of dollars that's being allocated towards this one particular organization. People are extracting enormous salaries, and then very little of it is actually going-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Is actually going to, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. The, so this is a part of the problem with these things. Like, "Oh, we lost funding." Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's bad. You definitely wanna have funding to, to help innocent people get out of jail, but like-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah, but what the fuck were you doing?
- JRJoe Rogan
Wh- where's all the money going? I don't know.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? But I know a lot of them. I know that they spent $251 million on transgender animal studies. Like there's, there's some wild money that's being thrown around. They spent $2 million giving cocaine to dogs.
- ARAaron Rodgers
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Super important to find out.
- ARAaron Rodgers
I, I really wanted (sniffs) to see the episodes of the $20 million they spent on the, uh, the Sesame Street in the middle east and Iraq. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
In Iraq. (laughs) Let's find some of those.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Was Oscar still a villain or was it Big Bird?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. "Let's count the gays as we throw them off the roof. One." (laughs)
- ARAaron Rodgers
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, $21 million. Did you... But how much-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Where's the fucking common sense, like when people hear that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Just because it's fucking Elon and some-
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh.
- ARAaron Rodgers
... 20-year-olds, they can't go, "Oh yeah, I'm glad he did that."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, here's-
- ARAaron Rodgers
That's a, that's a waste of my money.
- 8:09 – 9:55
USAID spending, corruption claims, and accountability: “Where’s all the money going?”
- JRJoe Rogan
There was a study that was done recently that showed that 96% of all the stories that mainstream media pr- uh, prints about Elon are negative.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
96%. But meanwhile, the guy saved those fucking people trapped up in space.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You didn't hear a peep about that.
- ARAaron Rodgers
And the shit he does when there's natural disasters with the Starlink.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's r- revolutionizing space travel, revolutionizing satellite internet capabilities, and, and the availability all o- all over the world. It's crazy. It's really crazy.
- ARAaron Rodgers
And saving billions of dollars of your-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ARAaron Rodgers
... tax money from going to fucking fund stupid-ass programs all over the world.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not just stupid-ass programs. It's, some of it is like you don't even know where it went.
- ARAaron Rodgers
It's corruption, too.
- JRJoe Rogan
He said that some of the money, that there was billions of dollars that was written out with no receipts at all. He said if this was a private company, or excuse me, a public company, they would be de-listed and all the executives would be thrown in prison. But in the government, it's just like standard practice.
- ARAaron Rodgers
How come, how come nobody has gone to prison?
- JRJoe Rogan
Business as usual.
- ARAaron Rodgers
That's one of my main questions, for Trump and the administration.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a good question. Well-
- ARAaron Rodgers
What's going on?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the administration's only 100 days old, right? Or 130, or whatever the fuck it is. It's like it, I think it takes a while to even find out what the fuck happened. I don't know. You know, I've, I've had conversations with people about it and it's like, Jesus. Like just trying to get the documents, like when they were trying to get the Epstein files, like they're... The State of New York, o- one of the district attorneys was hiding, they were hiding documents. They had to force them to give documents. I think there's so many fucking powerful people that are on those lists. There's so many powerful people that went and partied.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
Air quotes, air quotes, "partied".
- ARAaron Rodgers
Hmm.
- 9:55 – 16:52
Diddy, Epstein, and O’Keefe: trials, tapes, and the problem of selective transparency
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, how many of them went to the Diddy parties? Have you been paying attention to the trial?
- ARAaron Rodgers
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Trials. Wild. Wild.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Why don't they, uh, they air it, the same way they aired the, uh, you know, the, the coverage that, you know, maybe Johnny Depp got?
- JRJoe Rogan
Johnny Depp. Uh, no. Why don't they? I don't know. They should. The ratings would be amazing.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Unreal. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Like, what are you doing? Why wouldn't you air that?
- ARAaron Rodgers
What's gonna happen though, you think?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, Diddy's gonna be in jail for the rest of his life. Uh, I think he's probably going to get hit up-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Think it's just a saying, though?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know. I don't even think it matters. I mean, it's... A lot of it is, uh...
- ARAaron Rodgers
But then it's just another Epstein.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's some, there's murder cases.
- ARAaron Rodgers
It's another Ghislaine Maxwell-
- JRJoe Rogan
There's murder cases.
- ARAaron Rodgers
... where somebody was indicted and nobody else... Indicted for trafficking kids to ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ARAaron Rodgers
No one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, to, to no one. Right. That's the crazy thing about Ghislaine, right? She's in prison for sex trafficking to who?
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Boom! Uh, mature. Yeah. Um-
- ARAaron Rodgers
But I mean, there's a lot of people that want some, some heads to roll, not just with that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the Diddy thing has just started, so we'll see. 'Cause apparently there's tremendous amount of video that they have. But we've also heard that about the Epstein cli-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah, and what are they gonna do? How much is gonna get out?
- JRJoe Rogan
James O'Keefe just released video of Epstein's library, right?
- ARAaron Rodgers
I didn't see that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
I know he's been holding onto something and there's been fear about him getting taken out and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but then he was like-
- ARAaron Rodgers
... Alex has some sort of kill switch or something. I don't know.
- 16:52 – 23:09
Israeli kiosks, Pegasus surveillance, and the paranoia of modern intelligence
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you guys see that they did this thing recently where they uncovered the fact that, uh, Israel had kiosks in malls, and Israeli intelligence was, they were gathering intelligence, but with these drone kiosks that they were selling in malls?
- NANarrator
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, these little propeller drones? Let me see if I can find it. Um, I know I sent it to some friends. Did you find it, Jamie, right away? Yeah.
- NANarrator
Oh, did you?
- JRJoe Rogan
"Charged US, running illegal mall kiosk network." How fucking weird is this? "Accused of arranging for Israelis to arrive in the country with tourist visas for the purpose of illicit employment and sales," and they were gathering information. The whole thing was gathering information. "Israeli has been charged US f- f- visa fraud, allegedly running an illegal employment scheme in the country which helped other Israelis obtain entry permits under false pretenses for the purpose of illegal employment." You know, I was, uh, ch- chatting back and forth with Ari. I sent, I sent this to him. He said-
- NANarrator
What did he say?
- JRJoe Rogan
He's like, imagine being pwned, you know, P-W-N...
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... by a country that has like seven million people in it. (laughs)
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like they've been fucking, they've been running things for so long, it's kind of amazing.
- NANarrator
It's impressive.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're very impressive. I mean, they, they developed peg- Pegasus, the abil- the whole reason why every time I text, I assume the government is reading everything I write.
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's 'cause they can.... they can, they can get into your signal, like all these encrypted apps that people-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... think that they're, like, you're gonna buy drugs and fucking sell guns and shit. No, no.
- ARAaron Rodgers
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no.
- NANarrator
Was this part of the story true?
- JRJoe Rogan
What is this? Um, "Assad uses mall kiosks-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Oh, wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
... in the US as front companies while on intelligence operations." Yeah, this is it. "Attorney Jessica Alabber found dead in her home after uncovering Israelis illegally enter the US to work at mall kiosks." She found dead in her home. Google that. Jesus.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Probably suicide.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Shot herself in the head twice.
- ARAaron Rodgers
What happens over there, you think?
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh-
- NANarrator
Epilepsy, though.
- JRJoe Rogan
Epilepsy. Died in her sleep. Hmm. Okay.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Well, so she was a young one. She was, like, 43. Yeah.
- 23:09 – 24:03
Deepfakes and AI voice cloning: how easily identity can be forged
- ARAaron Rodgers
Why are you looking for this? Do you... Jamie, I'm, I'm sure you've probably seen some of these. Do you... When you're s- on Instagram, sometimes you'll come across videos and the voice you recognize right away, but you know that person didn't say it. Have you seen these?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Your voice is on it a bunch.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
I first got, got alerted to it when John Reeves, our buddy John from Alaska, I h- I heard his voice on some-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
... like, UFO video.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yup.
- ARAaron Rodgers
I was like, "John, what the fuck, did you..." And he's like, "No." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
No. (laughs) He's not doing any of it.
- ARAaron Rodgers
I've heard my voice on stuff, too, but I heard, I, I hear your voices-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
... a lot. Voices. How the fuck did they do this stuff?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's real easy.
- ARAaron Rodgers
And it's dangerous, too.
- NANarrator
Really easy.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's real easy now. It's, uh, it's crazy. It's... When I see a lot of is me selling stuff that I'm not really selling. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of that. A lot of me selling shit that I'm not really selling.
- ARAaron Rodgers
You're not the peddling new products?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. Well, it's not just... It's, like, businesses and shit that I'm not really interested in. There's-
- 24:03 – 29:27
Egypt’s hidden history: LiDAR/tomography scans, Zahi Hawass, and “helicopter” hieroglyphs
- ARAaron Rodgers
Was this, was this the pad that Zahi was using right here? This one?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, maybe. (laughs) That might've been the worst podcast I've ever done, but maybe a good one, too. Just to see, okay, this is the guy. This is this close-minded, minded fellow that's been in charge of gatekeeping all of the knowledge about...... Egypt.
- ARAaron Rodgers
And still standing on the same ideas.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Even after this LiDAR comes out, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, um, the p- tomography, whatever it is.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah. Whatever it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
The, yeah. That stuff's fascinating, because, uh, I've been... Even after that podcast, I've been watching more videos with those Italian scientists (clears throat) describing it.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They've used it to... And this is one of the things that I brought up. One of the temples that they scanned with this was very accurate, and he's like, "But this was only 50 feet down." Like, yeah, okay, right. But it works.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, at 50 feet down, you get an accurate representation of what's inside there, which... And he was the one, Zahi, supposedly, you know, discovered it. But he's discovered everything, basically.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So how do you-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Genius.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's the best. So-
- ARAaron Rodgers
But the good thing is that, that Graham can go back to Egypt now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
So they patched up something.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, well that was one of the reasons why Zahi came on.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Oh, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause G- Graham talked to Zahi and was like, "Uh, Zahi wants to do this. We're friends now." He's like, "Bring him in. Let's go. Bring him in. I'll talk to him."
- ARAaron Rodgers
That's great.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, I thought, I thought it would probably-
- ARAaron Rodgers
And he... Did he invite you to, to Egypt?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Eh.
- ARAaron Rodgers
And what'd you say?
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah?
- JRJoe Rogan
If I'm going, I'm going with Graham.
- 29:27 – 34:02
Vatican secrecy, Swiss Guard oddities, and elite protection networks
- ARAaron Rodgers
How about this, this idea? We got a new pope.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ARAaron Rodgers
He's from the States.
- JRJoe Rogan
From Chicago.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Let's open up the library of the Vatican.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, good luck. Good luck doing that. Have you been?
- ARAaron Rodgers
Good.
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you been to the Vatican?
- ARAaron Rodgers
I've been to the Vatican, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's wild, right?
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah, it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're like, "What did you guys do? Where'd you get all this shit?"
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
When you're walking through it, you're like, "What?"
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"What you have i-"
- ARAaron Rodgers
And the weird tapestries-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
... where you stand on one side, it looks like this, then the other side looks like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Insane art. Like the craziest... But it was alm- It's almost like a crazy person's house, where they have so much art. Almost like this studio. They have so much art, it's stacked up everywhere.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Except it's worth billions of dollars.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah. I was laughing because didn't, uh, J.D. Vance get in trouble for pictures in the Sistine Chapel or something? Or, or, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Did he?
- ARAaron Rodgers
Uh, what's... Is it Sistine Chapel? And I... And I think he did. And, and you know you're not supposed to take pictures. And I remember going in there and they told you, like, "Put your phone away." And I'm literally in there, trying to be quiet and everything. And everybody around me is loud, they got their camera out to take photos and shit. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Photo of J.D. Vance inside Sistine Chapel-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... sparks backlash.
- 34:02 – 45:09
Remote viewing, Area 51 “guards,” Element 115, and the logic of UFO non-disclosure
- ARAaron Rodgers
The remote viewing stuff in Area 51 is pretty wild, though. People have talked about... And you had, uh, a person talking about remote viewing recently-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ARAaron Rodgers
... but how it's guarded by... I mean, the CIA's been doing it forever, finally some of that's declassified. But they have their rem- remote viewing, like, guards who guard secret places like that, especially Area 51. It's pretty wild.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're remote viewing while there are guards?
- ARAaron Rodgers
They have guards who, whose role is your remote viewing guard.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- ARAaron Rodgers
So their duty is, they're... They go into their astral bodies and guard the facility.
- JRJoe Rogan
What does that entail? Like, what are they guarding it from?
- ARAaron Rodgers
From other astral viewers who try and get in there.
- JRJoe Rogan
What? Like, you block 'em?
- ARAaron Rodgers
There's been a lot of people online who've talked about this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of people online who talk about a lot of things, though, unfortunately. I- I'm open-minded with this remote viewing stuff, 'cause the Hal Puthoff stuff was fascinating. When he was describing it, like, how accurate it had been.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
When they... There was that crashed, uh, jet from Russia-
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that they were trying to recover and they found it within a couple mile radius.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they were able to recover it before Russia was.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's pretty wild.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, if that's a real ability that s-... that people have...
- ARAaron Rodgers
You think it's bullshit?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. No, I don't think it's bullshit.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Not even-
- JRJoe Rogan
I think they spent too much money on it and they, they researched it for too long for it to be total bullshit. And Hal Puthoff was very compelling. I've never seen it in action, though. So I've... You know, remain s-... At least-
- ARAaron Rodgers
You've never seen what? Somebody-
- JRJoe Rogan
Remote view.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I mean...
- 45:09 – 1:13:05
Cancer and vaccines: ivermectin stigma, metabolic theory, SV40 claims, and fertility worries
- ARAaron Rodgers
But you can't go after the, you know, the, in this country, two of the big ones are, um, vaccines and cancer.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
And that's what I've been actually diving deep into the last, uh, about year because I've had a number of people in my life get cancer. And you've had a lot of people on the show who've talked about, uh, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
SV40.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
But also, the remedies they've been using. Me and Mel Gibson on here are talking about-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ARAaron Rodgers
... Fenben and, and ivermectin.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Um, and that's what I've been in the weeds, uh, you know, learning, learned about the last, uh, the last year or so.
- JRJoe Rogan
Boy, they did-
- ARAaron Rodgers
It's really fascinating.
- JRJoe Rogan
... such a disservice to humankind by demonizing ivermectin in order to push vaccines 'cause in so many sheep, in so many dullards, in so many people that are just boomers that believe everything that's in the news, ivermectin is a fool's medication.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Even today.
- JRJoe Rogan
Today. Yeah, even today. Like, if you told... Th- they would have to be dying of cancer to even consider taking that.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah, I had a doctor tell me that was, "Why would you want to take horse paste?"
- JRJoe Rogan
What a dumb doctor.
- ARAaron Rodgers
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
- JRJoe Rogan
What a dumbass doctor. Imagine saying that. Did you, did you ask him-
- ARAaron Rodgers
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... "Do you know the history of the use of that drug?"
- ARAaron Rodgers
I did. It ended the conversation. He was like-
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's like, it's literally like saying, "Penicillin. Don't take penicillin."
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"They use that on dogs."
- ARAaron Rodgers
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ARAaron Rodgers
I don't care that it's got a Nobo- Nobel Prize, doesn't matter.
- JRJoe Rogan
Nobel Prize for use in humans on the World Health Organization's list of essential medications.
Episode duration: 3:04:53
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