Joe Rogan Experience #2339 - Luis J. Gomez & Big Jay Oakerson

1. 0:00 – 2:58

   Big Jay’s weight loss, testosterone & peptide “experimentation”

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. NANarrator0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Thanks, sir.

   5. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:12

      Live and running.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Yeah, the ever greater and thinner Big Jay Oakerson.

   7. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:17

      Thank you, Manjaro. Shout out, Manjaro.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      You're looking good, dude.

   9. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:20

      Big ups, Manjaro.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       It's nice to see-

   11. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:22

       (coughs) Thank you.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       ... you know?

   13. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:23

       I am exercising too.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Beautiful.

   15. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:25

       You have to or it will just be floppy and weird and gross.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Or it'll eat your bones. (laughs)

   17. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:30

       I guess, also, yes, it'll eat your bones-

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       (laughs)

   19. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:31

       ... they say.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       (laughs)

   21. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:35

       I'm real big on taking the stuff and then not really following up with, like... You know what I mean? I did- I just started doing testosterone from a company that's, like, you know, it's above board taking it, but, like... They're like, "You should make sure you monitor your blood all the time." And I'm like, "Yeah, we'll get to that at some point."

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       (laughs)

   23. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:51

       I'm gonna keep taking it, though.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       You don't monitor your blood at all?

   25. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:55

       No, not me, with any regularity, I think.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       You should probably do that.

   27. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:58

       Yeah, they did it there.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       You should-

   29. BOBig Jay Oakerson0:58

       I know, someone I know says they take testosterone and they have to, like, donate blood every month to get blood-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       I've heard that before. (laughs) I've heard that before.
2. 2:58 – 5:19

   Supplements, hair-loss treatments, and “mark” behavior at clinics

   1. BOBig Jay Oakerson2:58

      I grew up in a house of supplements. My stepfather was a powerlifter. So, I only know about creatine-

   2. NANarrator3:04

      Thick.

   3. BOBig Jay Oakerson3:05

      Uh...

   4. NANarrator3:06

      That's it. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:07

      Creatine?

   6. BOBig Jay Oakerson3:07

      Creatinine was another one that would show up in the house sometimes.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:10

      Creatinine?

   8. BOBig Jay Oakerson3:11

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:12

      Really? What's that?

   10. BOBig Jay Oakerson3:12

       I don't know, but I had to go get it for my gym-

   11. NANarrator3:13

       I think Jason took creatine twice and he's just remembering it wrongly. (laughs)

   12. BOBig Jay Oakerson3:16

       No, it was another, it was another word.

   13. NANarrator3:19

       (laughs)

   14. BOBig Jay Oakerson3:19

       Cre- super creatine.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:21

       (laughs) Creatine's legit. That stuff's super good for you.

   16. NANarrator3:24

       Yeah, I just started taking Tongkat Ali for my, uh, my, uh, testosterone.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:28

       Oh. Creatinine is a waste product that forms from the breakdown of creatine in muscles. Huh.

   18. BOBig Jay Oakerson3:36

       Hmm. Why would I take it?

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       There's another, uh, natural one.

   20. NANarrator3:39

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:39

       What is it? I think it's called turkesterone, I think that's what it's called.

   22. NANarrator3:42

       I know Sheila legit is good for testosterone.

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:43

       Yeah, there's a few of those.

   24. BOBig Jay Oakerson3:44

       You been experimenting on me?

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:45

       Uh, yeah.

   26. BOBig Jay Oakerson3:45

       I had my doctor... I asked my doctor to put me on testosterone. I think we talked about it, because you're like, "Dude, I got... Don't worry. Fuck your doctor. (laughs) I got a doctor for you." And I was just like, "Ah, maybe I- I'll just stop smoking weed." (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:57

       You think that was killing your testosterone?

   28. NANarrator3:58

       I think so. I was... It was, like, lower than it should have been. It was, like, in the high 300s, and now it's at, like, mid 500s.

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:04

       Well, like, a good doctor, what they'll do first is ask you, like, "What do you do for exercise? What are you eating? How much do you sleep?"

   30. NANarrator4:11

       Yeah.
3. 5:19 – 7:13

   Comedian talk: Ralph Barbosa, comedy beefs, and online feuds

   1. NANarrator5:19

      Well, how do you find out how much that your barber doesn't know you, but is a big fan of Ralph Barbosa?

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:23

      Uh...

   3. BOBig Jay Oakerson5:24

      You guys aren't gonna find that out if you don't get your hair cut at a barber.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:25

      Is that what you get from your barber? "I don't know you, but Ralph-

   5. BOBig Jay Oakerson5:28

      (laughs) Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:28

      ... Barbosa is a fucking man, dog."

   7. BOBig Jay Oakerson5:30

      Do you know Ralph Barbosa?

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:31

      (laughs)

   9. NANarrator5:31

      (laughs)

   10. BOBig Jay Oakerson5:31

       Oh, Kenny. His name's Kenny. He's a nice enough guy.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:34

       Ralph Barbosa's slick. He's, like, a slick comedian. Like, his punchlines are, like, smooth, you know?

   12. BOBig Jay Oakerson5:40

       He's great. Very funny, man. I did Fully Loaded with him.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:43

       Yeah, he's got a great... He's like, he makes... He's got a fun, like, just his approach.

   14. BOBig Jay Oakerson5:46

       Delivery.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:46

       I like it. It's very slick.

   16. NANarrator5:48

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:49

       You know?

   18. BOBig Jay Oakerson5:49

       And he's sitting in the elevator down. I mean, he's t- going, taking guys on tour that I've never heard of, but I think have been around for a long time.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:56

       That's great.

   20. BOBig Jay Oakerson5:56

       It's a cool move.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:56

       That's great. Yeah, very good dude. He hung out with us at the Mothership one night. Fun guy.

   22. BOBig Jay Oakerson6:02

       Yeah, he got popular-

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:03

       Funny as shit, man.

   24. BOBig Jay Oakerson6:03

       ... for, uh-... he, like... Someone said on, like, George Lopez's show or something, they were like, "This guy sucks."

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:09

       No.

   26. BOBig Jay Oakerson6:09

       Well, no. George, George Lopez was like, "I don't get it. He's just whatever." And then, I think he made fun of him back.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:13

       Well, someone was... I think someone was talking well about him-

   28. BOBig Jay Oakerson6:15

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:15

       ... and then George Lopez was very dismissive of him, and I think that's what happened.

   30. BOBig Jay Oakerson6:20

       And someone asked-
4. 7:13 – 9:11

   Luis’s father’s murder, forgiveness, and the ‘Butterfly Effect’ riff

   1. LGLuis J. Gomez7:13

      Yeah, it's been a while. I mean, I... I'm not... It's just not that serious. There's nobody in the world that I hate. Like, there's literally no... Even people that hate me, I'm like, "Ah, dude. We're cool. I don't really give a shit."

   2. BOBig Jay Oakerson7:22

      The guy that murdered your father?

   3. LGLuis J. Gomez7:23

      Uh, dude, I tried to get him on my podcast.

   4. BOBig Jay Oakerson7:25

      It's true.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:25

      Oh, my God.

   6. LGLuis J. Gomez7:26

      I... So the guy... Uh, my father was stabbed to death when I was four years old, and then-

   7. BOBig Jay Oakerson7:30

      (gasps) Lucky.

   8. LGLuis J. Gomez7:30

      ... years later, after I got out of prison, I was like, "Let me try to get this guy on my podcast and interview him."

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:34

      Wow.

   10. LGLuis J. Gomez7:34

       How interesting would that be? Um, but he was already dead.

   11. BOBig Jay Oakerson7:38

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:38

       Dude, that would've been insane.

   13. LGLuis J. Gomez7:39

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:40

       That would've been insane.

   15. LGLuis J. Gomez7:40

       'Cause I didn't... I wasn't, like... 'Cause I was a kid, he was-

   16. BOBig Jay Oakerson7:42

       You bring up why. (laughs)

   17. LGLuis J. Gomez7:43

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:44

       Could you imagine, though, being, like, a fucking-

   19. LGLuis J. Gomez7:45

       (laughs) You killed my father.

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:47

       ... 75-year-old man, like, showing up at this young guy's house, who you stabbed, his dad, and you're gonna be alone together? That guy's gonna kill you.

   21. LGLuis J. Gomez7:54

       Yeah, maybe. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:55

       That's what I would think. If I was an old man, I couldn't defend myself.

   23. LGLuis J. Gomez7:57

       I don't think he was that old. He was 17 when he killed my father.

   24. JRJoe Rogan8:00

       Oh, wow.

   25. LGLuis J. Gomez8:00

       So he was only 13 years older than me.

   26. JRJoe Rogan8:03

       Oh.

   27. LGLuis J. Gomez8:03

       So, he'd be like 60 now, I guess.

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:04

       Mm.

   29. LGLuis J. Gomez8:05

       Yeah, but this is, like, a decade ago that I was gonna do it, so.

   30. BOBig Jay Oakerson8:08

       That guy's a convicted murderer, dude. He could fuck your shit up.
5. 9:11 – 12:53

   Waymo chaos, electric cars, and the appeal of ‘killing robots’

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:11

      (laughs) I think there's something to that we're plugged into something. It seems more like it every day. It seems like this is, like, an advanced stage of the video game right now, where, like, they're lighting cop cars on fire in LA and throwing bricks off of overpasses.

   2. LGLuis J. Gomez9:24

      Dude, it does seem fun to order a Waymo and light it on fire.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:27

      It's-

   4. LGLuis J. Gomez9:27

      Nobody gets hurt. It's just hilarious.

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:29

      And I think it's directionally correct.

   6. LGLuis J. Gomez9:31

      Yes. (laughs)

   7. BOBig Jay Oakerson9:32

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:32

      You know, like, you should probably start killing robots. Like-

   9. LGLuis J. Gomez9:34

      Yes.

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:34

       ... you guys are... You're on the right course, you know.

   11. LGLuis J. Gomez9:36

       They're, they're early on the, the war of the machines. We're just fucking-

   12. BOBig Jay Oakerson9:39

       We're trying to stop the Terminator.

   13. LGLuis J. Gomez9:40

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan9:41

       Bro, these are all gonna be o- owned by corporations and it's gonna be the only way you're allowed to get around 'cause they're the safest. They're gonna take away everybody's driver's license. It's gonna get weird as fuck.

   15. LGLuis J. Gomez9:52

       Oh, yeah. But it's gonna probably be better.

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:53

       It's gonna get weird as fuck.

   17. LGLuis J. Gomez9:53

       The cars are gonna go 200 miles an hour, probably. Traffic will be eliminated.

   18. JRJoe Rogan9:56

       Dude, I think they're gonna be more of these fucking things-

   19. LGLuis J. Gomez9:58

       I've heard-

   20. JRJoe Rogan9:59

       ... that we just saw in LA. That's what I think.

   21. BOBig Jay Oakerson10:01

       I've heard that, uh, teenagers are going back to smoking regular cigarettes now and getting away from vapes. We might move back analog a little bit.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:08

       Ooh.

   23. LGLuis J. Gomez10:08

       Hmm, interesting.

   24. BOBig Jay Oakerson10:08

       You know what I mean?

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:09

       Bring back manual cars.

   26. BOBig Jay Oakerson10:10

       I wonder if analog makes some sort... Like, where it slows down because people want it to slow down a little bit.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:17

       Yeah, but it's too late. They, they do want it to slow down. Yeah. We're not-

   28. BOBig Jay Oakerson10:20

       I mean, the electric car didn't really take off the way they'd hoped.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:22

       Yeah. The problem-

   30. BOBig Jay Oakerson10:23

       No body bought into that.
6. 12:53 – 15:19

   Road hypnosis, smelling salts, and Luis’s brutal prank confession

   1. LGLuis J. Gomez12:53

      Yeah. No, that's much better. I did... I get, like, road paralysis where, like, if I'm, like, driving for more than an hour and I'm looking at the lines... Not paralysis.

   2. JRJoe Rogan13:00

      Yeah.

   3. LGLuis J. Gomez13:00

      Um, hypno... The, what do they call it? Like road hypnosis. So I get hypnotized-

   4. JRJoe Rogan13:05

      Right.

   5. LGLuis J. Gomez13:05

      ... by the lines and I start to-

   6. JRJoe Rogan13:05

      You start falling asleep?

   7. LGLuis J. Gomez13:06

      I start falling asleep. If I have to drive for more than an hour or two at night... (laughs) That's terrifying.

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:10

      (laughs) You know how to fix that? Do you know how to fix that? It's real easy.

   9. LGLuis J. Gomez13:13

      Uh, cocaine.

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:14

       No, no, no. Um... (laughs)

   11. BOBig Jay Oakerson13:15

       No, that's not... Co- cocaine won't work for that.

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:17

       That'll probably wo- ... That'll work too, you're right. But you have to keep doing it over and over again. Um, get some ice and, um, uh, just a washcloth. A washcloth with... A wet washcloth with ice in it, and just rub your face.

   13. LGLuis J. Gomez13:27

       Rub your face with it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:28

       You'll wake right up.

   15. LGLuis J. Gomez13:29

       Yeah. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan13:29

       You'll wake right up. And it lasts for like five minutes.

   17. LGLuis J. Gomez13:31

       That wet... To, to... To waste-

   18. BOBig Jay Oakerson13:32

       That washcloth you keep in your car-

   19. LGLuis J. Gomez13:33

       No, what, what they call in a...

   20. BOBig Jay Oakerson13:34

       That'd be great. Joe's gonna love that.

   21. LGLuis J. Gomez13:35

       ... the, uh, the smelling salts you have in the club.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:36

       Oh, those will do it.

   23. BOBig Jay Oakerson13:37

       Those will do it.

   24. LGLuis J. Gomez13:38

       I did... I did a terrible prank.

   25. JRJoe Rogan13:39

       But they might fuck you up. Like, you might change lanes.

   26. BOBig Jay Oakerson13:41

       You maybe shouldn't tell this. It might be illegal what you've done.

   27. LGLuis J. Gomez13:43

       No, it's not illegal. (laughs) It's definitely... This is a... I will say it's a bad prank to do on a girl. If this was a dude-

   28. BOBig Jay Oakerson13:48

       To do to a-... This is a crazy dangerous prank.

   29. LGLuis J. Gomez13:50

       If this was a dude, everyone would've been like, "Dude, great prank." But because I did it to a girl, it was a little bit (laughs) fucked up. So we were at the Mothership last time we were doing our podcast and, um, our producer, Alex, is a girl. And, uh, she's a big pothead, huge pothead, like real deal. So as, as podcast producers are.

   30. BOBig Jay Oakerson14:07

       Also a mother and a wonderful producer.
7. 15:19 – 18:52

   Tour-bus bathroom rules, women ‘shitting’ stories, and DMB’s infamous incident

   1. BOBig Jay Oakerson15:19

      It is the most evening factor ever. I did a, uh... When I was on tour with the bands years ago, uh, Korn did... Uh, Jagermeister music tour, they always had the Jager girls.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:28

      Mm-hmm.

   3. BOBig Jay Oakerson15:28

      Would hang out. And I was on the Jagermeister production bus on this tour. So the girls would all come on there. They would come and hang out and drink for free on the bus. And, you know, tour buses, you're not allowed to shit on a tour bus. And only one of the Jager girls asked if she could use the bathroom. It was just in the time we were there. And she went, "Gorgeous, girl." And she came back out and she was sitting down and then the-

   4. LGLuis J. Gomez15:49

      (laughs)

   5. BOBig Jay Oakerson15:49

      ... driver comes to start getting the bus (laughs) ready to leave. And just, you know, a toothless fucking road dog just comes in the bus and he go, "Somebody took a shit." (laughs)

   6. LGLuis J. Gomez15:58

      (laughs)

   7. BOBig Jay Oakerson15:58

      And everybody knew it was this hot chick in fishnets.

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:02

      Oh.

   9. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:03

      And I mean, just to think, it was like... She was so beautiful that me...

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Oh.

   11. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:06

       Probably at my heaviest in my life, I was like, "I probably could get her now."

   12. LGLuis J. Gomez16:09

       (laughs)

   13. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:10

       "She's the shit girl. No one's seeking her out and I'll still do it."

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       That's hilarious. That's hilarious

   15. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:14

       You can't clean up that good in a fucking... In a tour bus bathroom.

   16. LGLuis J. Gomez16:17

       So it's such a function that everybody has, but for some reason, I never wanna hear about a woman shitting, ever.

   17. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:24

       Now, what about the, the MTV girl?

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       Why... Why don't they develop a toilet that you can shit on on a bus? Is that, uh, beyond our science?

   19. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:31

       I don't know why it can't be... I'm sure there's something that can be done.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       It seems like it should be done. I think they're just being lazy. "No shitting on the tour bus."

   21. LGLuis J. Gomez16:38

       But if you have to take a shit-

   22. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:40

       But if you see-

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       That's crazy.

   24. LGLuis J. Gomez16:41

       ... because they have to empty it out, that's the problem. So they... Uh, they... You can. You can shit on the tour bus, but the person that has to clean the toilet has to now empty out your shit amongst the piss.

   25. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:50

       Like manually with, like, a hose and shit.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       Yeah.

   27. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:52

       That's what's crazy.

   28. LGLuis J. Gomez16:53

       It's some dude's job that he has to like deal with.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:55

       Yeah.

   30. BOBig Jay Oakerson16:56

       There should be somewhere you could pull over and those rest stops have like a thing that sucks your shit out.
8. 18:52 – 21:03

   Deepfakes, AI content theft, and memes that won’t die

   1. JRJoe Rogan18:52

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   2. LGLuis J. Gomez20:06

      Yeah, it is crazy. What ... Uh, I mean, the amount of like deepfakes and-

   3. BOBig Jay Oakerson20:10

      I'm starting to think you and Theo Von aren't two babies talking to each other.

   4. NANarrator20:12

      Ah.

   5. LGLuis J. Gomez20:12

      I watch ads with you all the time. Companies just use your voice in AI now.

   6. NANarrator20:16

      Oh, yeah.

   7. LGLuis J. Gomez20:16

      I sent you one a- at one point-

   8. NANarrator20:17

      Yeah.

   9. LGLuis J. Gomez20:17

      ... where it's just like ... I was like, "I know this is not Joe glazing this fucking (laughs) weird company-"

   10. NANarrator20:23

       It's true.

   11. LGLuis J. Gomez20:24

       "... for, you know, a 10-minute read." I was like, "They really got him to do this, huh?"

   12. NANarrator20:27

       So strange.

   13. LGLuis J. Gomez20:28

       Yeah. Do you try to put a stop to that or you just say, "Fuck it?"

   14. NANarrator20:30

       Yeah, yeah, you try but it's like- The guy who made that set took 25 minutes.

   15. LGLuis J. Gomez20:33

       Wow. (laughs)

   16. BOBig Jay Oakerson20:34

       I told a, uh ... I told a-

   17. LGLuis J. Gomez20:36

       Wow.

   18. BOBig Jay Oakerson20:36

       I told a racist street joke on Legion of Skanks 10 years ago. And me saying the N-word has been used in so many memes and little videos.

   19. LGLuis J. Gomez20:44

       But it's so funny 'cause Black people react to it and they ... It's such a funny street joke that they can't deny it. It's like an undeniably funny thing.

   20. BOBig Jay Oakerson20:50

       Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   21. LGLuis J. Gomez20:50

       So it's always Black people trying to not laugh. And they say it and then like, "Pfft, that's pretty good."

   22. NANarrator20:54

       (laughs)

   23. BOBig Jay Oakerson20:55

       (laughs)

   24. LGLuis J. Gomez20:55

       "That's pretty funny."

   25. BOBig Jay Oakerson20:55

       Pretty great street joke.

   26. LGLuis J. Gomez20:58

       (Laughs) Oh, shit.

   27. NANarrator20:59

       Uh, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:00

       Some words are coming back. That one's not one of them.

   29. LGLuis J. Gomez21:02

       No. (laughs)

9. 21:03 – 46:40

   ICE raids, protests turning violent, and ‘movie theater’ immigration analogy

   1. JRJoe Rogan21:03

      Bro, these ice raids are fucking nuts, man. Watching this, this protest on television, it's like ...

   2. BOBig Jay Oakerson21:10

      You think the raids are nuts or the prote- the, the, the-

   3. JRJoe Rogan21:12

      All of it's nuts.

   4. BOBig Jay Oakerson21:12

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan21:12

      The protests nuts, the raids are-

   6. LGLuis J. Gomez21:12

      I think both sides are taking it a little too hard.

   7. NANarrator21:15

      Well ...

   8. BOBig Jay Oakerson21:18

      (clears throat)

   9. JRJoe Rogan21:18

      I don't think ... If they ... The Trump administration, if they're running and they said, "We're gonna go to Home Depot and we're gonna arrest all the people at Home Depot. We're gonna go to construction sites and we're gonna just like tackle people at constructions." I don't think anybody would have signed up for that. They said, "We're gonna get rid of the criminals and the gang members first." Right? And now we're, we're seeing like Home Depots get raided.

   10. BOBig Jay Oakerson21:39

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:39

       Like that's crazy.

   12. LGLuis J. Gomez21:41

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:42

       And then you've got this, uh, big protest that's scheduled for the 14th that's literally funded by the lady who owns Walmart.

   14. BOBig Jay Oakerson21:50

       The protest, uh-

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:51

       The protest, it's like no kings. It's like a no kings protest that's happening all across the country.

   16. LGLuis J. Gomez21:58

       Yeah, like criminals and-

   17. JRJoe Rogan21:58

       I think a bunch of different locations.

   18. LGLuis J. Gomez21:59

       ... and rapists and, you know, obviously. But then they go to like a college campus and there's some kid about to graduate, they're like, "No, you're out." (laughs) It's fucked up.

   19. BOBig Jay Oakerson22:06

       Rapists, criminals, slow delivery people.

   20. LGLuis J. Gomez22:09

       (laughs)

   21. BOBig Jay Oakerson22:09

       Um, ones that can't dance or play the flamenco guitar. (laughs) I've got a list. Um, I think it's fucking crazy how violent it's gotten. I don't ... I just-

   22. JRJoe Rogan22:20

       But they're throwing bricks over overpasses.

   23. BOBig Jay Oakerson22:23

       That's what I mean.

   24. NANarrator22:23

       Bananas.

   25. BOBig Jay Oakerson22:24

       But again, but again, I think all these things, 90% of the people that are there are just like, "Let's rage, motherfucker."

   26. JRJoe Rogan22:29

       (laughs) Oh, 100%. No, also, there's people saying they're being paid to protest.

   27. BOBig Jay Oakerson22:34

       I saw that in New York with Black Lives Matter.

   28. LGLuis J. Gomez22:34

       Yeah, they're saying they're, uh-

   29. BOBig Jay Oakerson22:35

       That's always the bricks. The piles of bricks are showing up, like just construction sites around the city.

   30. LGLuis J. Gomez22:39

       No, no, no, no, that was weird, dude. I was in the city during that time.
10. 46:40 – 49:33

    COVID-era enforcement, fake vaccine cards, and jury-duty dodging

    1. JRJoe Rogan46:40

       That's on a lot of peo- but that's also how people felt like when, uh, people were unvaccinated. "Oh, I already took the shot."

    2. BOBig Jay Oakerson46:46

       (laughs) You know?

    3. JRJoe Rogan46:47

       Like, "Why don't you take the shot?" "I already took the shot."

    4. BOBig Jay Oakerson46:49

       Shit, I didn't have to. I sought it out so hard.

    5. JRJoe Rogan46:52

       Did you?

    6. LGLuis J. Gomez46:52

       Yeah, Jay was-

    7. BOBig Jay Oakerson46:53

       Oh, my God.

    8. LGLuis J. Gomez46:53

       ... oh, you were so scared?

    9. BOBig Jay Oakerson46:53

       ... I was paranoid.

    10. LGLuis J. Gomez46:54

        You were scared?

    11. BOBig Jay Oakerson46:54

        I'm certain I was dying.

    12. JRJoe Rogan46:55

        Yeah, a lot of- a lot of people got scared.

    13. LGLuis J. Gomez46:57

        Yeah, I- I took it.

    14. JRJoe Rogan46:58

        They scared the fuck out of us.

    15. LGLuis J. Gomez46:59

        I took it, and then I faked the second one, th- the booster.

    16. BOBig Jay Oakerson47:02

        (gasps)

    17. LGLuis J. Gomez47:02

        (laughs) 'Cause I realized that there's no way that these, there, it's a piece of paper, it's a card.

    18. JRJoe Rogan47:05

        Mm-hmm.

    19. LGLuis J. Gomez47:06

        With like some random name on it. It was like, it was like-

    20. JRJoe Rogan47:08

        Mm-hmm.

    21. LGLuis J. Gomez47:09

        (laughs) ... I- I was like, "There's no way they're actually tracking this."

    22. BOBig Jay Oakerson47:11

        My daughter made one on her phone to go into a Cheesecake Factory.

    23. LGLuis J. Gomez47:13

        (laughs)

    24. BOBig Jay Oakerson47:14

        It's pretty impressive.

    25. JRJoe Rogan47:15

        Uh, they're gonna absolve you of that crime. It'll be in the future as bill like when they, uh, all the people that dodged the draft.

    26. LGLuis J. Gomez47:22

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan47:22

        They- they exonerated them all.

    28. LGLuis J. Gomez47:24

        Oh, wait, did I just admit to a crime-

    29. JRJoe Rogan47:25

        Yeah, you did.

    30. LGLuis J. Gomez47:25

        ... in this podcast? I didn't do that.
11. 49:33 – 53:45

    Wigs, syphilis lore, hair systems—and Turkey surgery kidney theft

    1. JRJoe Rogan49:33

       How... When did they stop wearing the wigs in the fucking crazy, crazy like-... You know.

    2. BOBig Jay Oakerson49:39

       Did they do it here?

    3. JRJoe Rogan49:39

       Did they stop wearing those?

    4. LGLuis J. Gomez49:40

       I think so, right?

    5. JRJoe Rogan49:41

       They don't wear the wigs anymore, right?

    6. LGLuis J. Gomez49:42

       We first came from, uh-

    7. BOBig Jay Oakerson49:45

       Oh, like Pilgrim Court? (laughs)

    8. LGLuis J. Gomez49:46

       (laughs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan49:46

       (laughs)

    10. BOBig Jay Oakerson49:49

        Okay. Back in Pilgrim Court.

    11. JRJoe Rogan49:50

        Like, how fucking stupid is it that everybody had wigs on?

    12. LGLuis J. Gomez49:52

        They still have it in England to this day.

    13. BOBig Jay Oakerson49:54

        Yeah, they still do it to this day.

    14. LGLuis J. Gomez49:55

        The, the judges still wear it. It's crazy.

    15. BOBig Jay Oakerson49:56

        And Jewish women.

    16. JRJoe Rogan49:57

        Yeah.

    17. BOBig Jay Oakerson49:57

        Religious Jewish women.

    18. JRJoe Rogan49:58

        You know where it pro- came from?

    19. BOBig Jay Oakerson49:59

        And any Black woman.

    20. JRJoe Rogan50:01

        Came from syphilis.

    21. BOBig Jay Oakerson50:02

        The wigs?

    22. JRJoe Rogan50:03

        Yeah, yeah.

    23. BOBig Jay Oakerson50:04

        Wow. How so?

    24. JRJoe Rogan50:05

        All the, the people... This is what... This is a l- a... So this is... The story's a little complicated. This may or may not have been exactly how it happened. But it seems like when explorers came to North America, they contracted syphilis from the natives and then brought it back to Europe, and then a lot of people were getting syphilis. (laughs) These people were freaks. They're all fucking each other, and they're losing their hair and getting big holes in their face and shit. Like, syphilis is crazy. It like rots your head away. And so they started wearing wigs, because they had like big scabby holes in their head, like literally. It's horrific shit. And the more wealthy you were, the bigger the wig. So that was like big wigs. That's what the term big wigs come from. It comes from these-

    25. BOBig Jay Oakerson50:46

        Makes complete sense.

    26. JRJoe Rogan50:47

        ... these freaks that all had syphilis that were all banging each other in France.

    27. LGLuis J. Gomez50:50

        And if you have money, you're fucking just getting pussy left and right.

    28. JRJoe Rogan50:52

        Yeah.

    29. LGLuis J. Gomez50:52

        So it's... Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan50:53

        So there was these two, um, two guys that were royals and they started it all. They started wearing the wigs when they got syphilis.
12. 53:45 – 1:40:17

    Fight talk: liver shots, weight cuts, women’s divisions, and Tyson-era PPVs

    1. LGLuis J. Gomez53:45

       Dude, getting punched in the fucking liver-

    2. JRJoe Rogan53:47

       Dude.

    3. LGLuis J. Gomez53:48

       It's the most painful thing-

    4. JRJoe Rogan53:49

       It's weird, right?

    5. LGLuis J. Gomez53:49

       ... on the planet, dude. Like-

    6. JRJoe Rogan53:51

       It's a weird feeling.

    7. LGLuis J. Gomez53:52

       It's crazy. It'll... It just shuts your body down. You roll around on the floor and start crying.

    8. JRJoe Rogan53:55

       (laughs)

    9. BOBig Jay Oakerson53:55

       I think I saw... I think Mickey Gall told me his-

    10. LGLuis J. Gomez53:58

        Mickey Gall kicked me in my kidney.

    11. BOBig Jay Oakerson53:59

        Oh.

    12. JRJoe Rogan54:00

        Ugh.

    13. BOBig Jay Oakerson54:00

        He hit... He hit a kidney?

    14. LGLuis J. Gomez54:01

        Yeah. So I, I sparred with Mickey Gall once, and I sparred with Michael Bisping once, and both of them put me down with liver shot. No, I'm sorry. Liver shots. Not kidney.

    15. BOBig Jay Oakerson54:08

        Oh, liver.

    16. LGLuis J. Gomez54:08

        Liver shots. Like but they, they, they called it. This is how good fighters are. Like-

    17. JRJoe Rogan54:12

        (laughs)

    18. LGLuis J. Gomez54:13

        Bisping's like, "Hey, watch this." Bang. (laughs) And he just put me down.

    19. BOBig Jay Oakerson54:16

        Oh, no.

    20. LGLuis J. Gomez54:16

        I mean, literally the whole gym-

    21. JRJoe Rogan54:17

        Oh.

    22. LGLuis J. Gomez54:17

        ... of people cackling- Rude. ... laughing at me as I roll around-

    23. JRJoe Rogan54:20

        How rude.

    24. LGLuis J. Gomez54:20

        ... on the floor as a man. (laughs)

    25. JRJoe Rogan54:22

        (laughs)

    26. LGLuis J. Gomez54:22

        It's fucking pathetic.

    27. BOBig Jay Oakerson54:23

        Have you seen Ilia Toporia do that-

    28. LGLuis J. Gomez54:24

        But Mickey... Mickey-

    29. BOBig Jay Oakerson54:24

        ... to people? He does it to fans. He hits them with a liver shot.

    30. LGLuis J. Gomez54:27

        Oh, no.

Episode duration: 3:21:26