Joe Rogan Experience #2342 - Jim Norton

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JNJim Norton0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   4. NANarrator0:11

      (intro music)

   5. JNJim Norton0:14

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      (laughs)

   7. JNJim Norton0:14

      Where do I fucking put this thing? It's hideous.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Right? Like, what are you gonna do with it?

   9. JNJim Norton0:17

      Yeah, I should've thrown it out. But I'm just, I feel like if somebody put effort into it and gave it to me, just keep it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Yeah, I know. Well, that's how I wound up with this fucking snake on the desk. This is from... (laughs)

   11. JNJim Norton0:30

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       This,, uh, during the entire podcast, Harlan Williams had this in his pants and he was saying that he had a, he got a worm.

   13. JNJim Norton0:38

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       And he, he named his worm Dmitri, and at the end of the podcast, he, he pulls it out, "Ugh."

   15. JNJim Norton0:43

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       And then he got such a fucking kick out of the fact that it was still on the desk when I interviewed Trump. (laughs)

   17. JNJim Norton0:49

       (laughs) I hope he explained where it came from.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       I didn't say shit.

   19. JNJim Norton0:52

       He's like, "This present... Hold on."

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       I didn't say anything.

   21. JNJim Norton0:53

       I think it's f- I think it's funny 'cause when you said that, I was like, "Who gave that to you? Is that a seven year old?"

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       (laughs)

   23. JNJim Norton0:57

       And then said, "Harlan Williams." All right, works out perfect.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       (laughs)

   25. JNJim Norton1:00

       That feels correct.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       He is so unique.

   27. JNJim Norton1:04

       He is. And, uh, I forgot he was in Something About Mary.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Oh, yeah.

   29. JNJim Norton1:07

       Which is literally one of the funniest movies ever made.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       Ever.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Ah. (laughs) …

   1. JNJim Norton15:00

      we like, buddy.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      Ah. (laughs)

   3. JNJim Norton15:04

      (laughs) They get very, uh, it's a very weird place to be.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      Yeah.

   5. JNJim Norton15:07

      People who like my humor don't necessarily like my personal life. And people who like my personal life don't necessarily like my humor. It's a weird... I guess-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      Right.

   7. JNJim Norton15:15

      ... if, if nobody feels like you are 100% in, in with them, they, they don't know what to make of you.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      Well, you were saying that about Oliver Anthony, and, that I wasn't aware of, that he was getting in trouble apparently right after Richmond, North of Richmond came out, that people were saying he wasn't really conservative.

   9. JNJim Norton15:32

      Yeah, they, they were giving him shit about, saying like, "Oh, he's not who we thought he was." Meanwhile, he writes this great song, and people love it. And they, they, they look at his art and they love his art. But because he feels a little bit differently, they, a lot of people turned on him. And it was like, "What, what are you giving shit?"

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       I wasn't even aware of that at all.

   11. JNJim Norton15:48

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       I didn't know, what... Uh, do you know what the subject was?

   13. JNJim Norton15:52

       I don't remember if they, if he had said something after it, or if they went back and found other things he had said prior that they felt like his politics didn't line up. It's almost like when they got mad about, uh, uh, uh, fucking, uh, Dylan Mulvaney. Like, n- needing to connect to the belief system of somebody who drinks the same beverage is just such fucking psychotic.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       (laughs) It's so stupid.

   15. JNJim Norton16:13

       Then ag- then again, I've drank piss, so I don't expect a whole lot of people to line up politically and rally behind me with fucking yellow flags.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       (laughs)

   17. JNJim Norton16:20

       But I don't... (laughs) I just don't care. I don't give a fuck. I don't care who, who believes it or like, I don't care like, what the, uh... I, I mean, I'm a, I'm a fucking Sabbath fan. I don't give a shit who those guys vote for. It's, it's so...

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:32

       Right. So stupid.

   19. JNJim Norton16:34

       ... inconsequential to me.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:36

       Yeah. Well, it's just a s- a symptom of this bizarrely disconnected society, where everybody's so separated.

   21. JNJim Norton16:43

       It is. And you gotta, it's gotta be driving you crazy. Or, or maybe you detach from it, 'cause you see things. I mean, I know you, so I'll see them say, like, "He's this right wing." And I'm like, "Do you guys really know Joe?" It's like they don't... To see yourself painted in such a way has gotta be at one point frustrating, and then you have to just let it go, right, and just go with it?

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:59

       Yeah, you gotta let it go. But when, when I... I mean, the most frustrating thing was seeing it on CNN. I was like, "Okay, you, so this thing that I thought was the news forever"-

   23. JNJim Norton17:07

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:08

       ... "now I know you're not accurate at all, 'cause you're, you're attacking me. And you're painting me in this very bizarre light because it's convenient for you."

   25. JNJim Norton17:17

       There is a weird thing. And maybe this is again, 'cause I'm in my 50s, and I remember like, thinking the news was real and accurate. 'Cause I'm, you know, remember Walter Cronkite and all that shit.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:26

       Yeah.

   27. JNJim Norton17:27

       And it's, I, it's this constant sense of disappointment, like, "Fuck." Like, they're really not what I... Like, I'm still an idiot-

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:34

       No.

   29. JNJim Norton17:34

       ... who believes in like, the, the adults and they're gonna do the right thing.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:37

       Yeah.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   (laughs)…

   1. JNJim Norton30:02

      (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      (laughs)

   3. JNJim Norton30:03

      So I went in and, uh, you know, you- you- you just go. They're like, "Yeah, you really, uh..." And I'm like, "Ah, man, it was just something we do." But you have, you face it and you realize-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      Yeah.

   5. JNJim Norton30:11

      ... they were nice guys. It was just-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      Yeah.

   7. JNJim Norton30:13

      ... it's a dumb radio show. I had fun. And I've actually become friendly with a couple of guys who we used to attack. But you only get that through meeting somebody and actually talking to them-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:20

      Right.

   9. JNJim Norton30:20

      ... one-on-one.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       The mo- the worst is when you meet someone and you have a conversation with them and you're cool. You think, "Oh, we're good." And then they'll go and talk shit about you somewhere else and completely mischaracterize you.

   11. JNJim Norton30:31

       Have you had that?

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've had that. Yeah, that's embarrassing. It's sad.

   13. JNJim Norton30:36

       It feels bad.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       Yeah, well, it's just like, "Okay, well, I'll never talk to you again 'cause I know that you do this now." 'Cause-

   15. JNJim Norton30:42

       It's crazy.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Yeah. And, but it's also, it's like, why are you doing that? G- g- generally, it's when I had a conversation with them and it didn't go well for them.

   17. JNJim Norton30:50

       Right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       So they'll, then they just harbor that thing, and then they just fucking stew it in their head. And then they just mischaracterize you and try to twist you around, 'cause they're trying to win-

   19. JNJim Norton31:00

       Yes.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       ... this argument they already lost.

   21. JNJim Norton31:01

       Yes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       You know? It's like, you know when you get in an argument, you- you didn't have anything to say.

   23. JNJim Norton31:05

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:05

       And then you're in the shower, like, "Ah, I should've said this."

   25. JNJim Norton31:07

       Uh-huh. Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:08

       "Ah, I should've said that."

   27. JNJim Norton31:09

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       Well, they're just doing that, and they're just going and doing that on another podcast.

   29. JNJim Norton31:12

       Yes, re- relitigating-

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       Yes.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   I can't... Annie Letterman…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      what they're there for. Nature has designed them to kill everything they can.

   2. JNJim Norton45:04

      I can't... Annie Letterman has a lot of snakes. Like, she has them as pets and her, her fiance has them. They have a ball-

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      That tracks.

   4. JNJim Norton45:10

      ... a room full of fucking (laughs) snakes-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      (laughs)

   6. JNJim Norton45:12

      ... and I don't get it. I'm like, "They're not warm."

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      Yeah.

   8. JNJim Norton45:15

      Th- they don't have any recognition of you.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      They're interesting, I guess.

   10. JNJim Norton45:19

       I guess, but I have a... We have a puppy and I've never owned a dog before, and it's like, it's nice to have. I don't like taking care of anything. I fucking... I don't have that instinct in me. I just don't like it. But this dog kind of, uh... I get why people like having a dog, like again.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       Oh, I love dogs. If, if a... My wife only lets me have one, I have one dog. But if i- it was up to me, uh, I have... One point in time, I had five dogs.

   12. JNJim Norton45:41

       You did?

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:41

       Yeah.

   14. JNJim Norton45:42

       Does he shit in the house?

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       No.

   16. JNJim Norton45:44

       Mine does a lot.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       No. I mean, he does if eats things that are bad. He gets diarrhea, and he gets diarrhea (laughs) at least a couple times a year.

   18. JNJim Norton45:49

       Oh, he does?

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       Yeah, he's a dumbass. He's a golden retriever. He's not that smart. Like, he ate a turtle recently and he got horrible diarrhea, shit all over the place. He had little pieces of shell-

   20. JNJim Norton45:59

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       ... stuck in his stomach. He had to go to the hospital.

   22. JNJim Norton46:02

       Oh, really?

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, it was a nightmare. And he also ate gravel at one point. He ate five pounds of gravel, 'cause someone accidentally, uh, dropped some chicken food on the gravel, and he just assumed that the gravel was food, so he ate all the gravel. (laughs)

   24. JNJim Norton46:15

       It is crazy how nothing registers halfway through the gravel pile, that this is not-

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:19

       He's just a dumbass.

   26. JNJim Norton46:20

       It doesn't taste like chicken.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:21

       He's a dumbass, but I fucking love dogs, man. I k- I wish I c- I, I could have... I mean, I can't go to a pound. I c- I can't go. If I get a dog-

   28. JNJim Norton46:28

       Can you bring him home?

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:29

       ... I'll bring 'em all home. I'll just like... I'll take 'em all.

   30. JNJim Norton46:31

       Do you-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:04:25

   Liberace's turning on. …

   1. NANarrator1:00:00

      groovy.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      Liberace's turning on.

   3. JNJim Norton1:00:03

      Isn't that great? (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

      Oh, God that's so weird. And look, the piano's moving.

   5. JNJim Norton1:00:09

      And he had the whole two girls like, "Yeah, I'm just here to get some puss." (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      (laughs) He's turning on.

   7. JNJim Norton1:00:14

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

      This is like the acid days.

   9. JNJim Norton1:00:17

      But it's so crazy that like this was actually probably not meant to be shitty and ironic, but it was meant to be like, "Yeah, he's this cool guy-"

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

       Oh, God.

   11. JNJim Norton1:00:23

       "... getting with the scene."

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       He's getting with the scene, man. And he's out there with his piano, and all these weird people with flowers on their pants.

   13. JNJim Norton1:00:31

       And the dancing. The dance routine is- is just not the straightest.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Look at him go with the vest. The vest is hilarious.

   15. JNJim Norton1:00:37

       Yeah, it's like plastic.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       Yeah, it's like this fucking raincoat that they turn into a vest.

   17. JNJim Norton1:00:43

       And a long like orange, like almost like Shakespeare sleeve type of shirt.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       God, so strange. God, people were so weir-... But you gotta think like in the 1960s television had only been around for like 20 years.

   19. JNJim Norton1:00:58

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       That's what's weird. This was really weird if you really stop and think about it. It was so new. No one... It's kind of like the internet, right? Like the internet was... The internet is older today than television was then.

   21. JNJim Norton1:01:13

       Yeah. Yeah, you're right. It's 30 years old now.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

       Yeah. Yeah. The internet basically came around ... I got on the internet for the first time in '94. I got on America Online.

   23. JNJim Norton1:01:23

       Yep.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       You've got mail.

   25. JNJim Norton1:01:25

       Yes.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       And I remember, this is crazy. I couldn't believe it. It hooked up to my phone. It was a 14.4 connection, like (imitates modem) .

   27. JNJim Norton1:01:33

       Yeah, 14k. Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:34

       Slow as shit. Then I got 56k. I thought it was a boss. Like, "Look at me, 56k."

   29. JNJim Norton1:01:38

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:39

       You know? And I remember thinking, "This is crazy. Like, this never existed before." So that was 30 years ago, 31 years ago. This was just 20 years after TV really ... Like when did TV really start happening?

Episode duration: 2:55:10