Joe Rogan Experience #2349 - Danny Jones

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Jul 15, 20253h 9mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:00 – 0:53
Danny Jones finally “in the video game” + shoutout to his YouTube run
1. NANarrator
  (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
2. The Joe Rogan Experience.
3. DJDanny Jones
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Yeah, this is gonna be so fucking weird to be sitting here, bro.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Is it?
5. DJDanny Jones
  So strange. I feel like I've, uh, I've been the sub- of like a video game observer, and now I'm, like, in the video game.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Are we on?
7. NANarrator
  Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  All right. (laughs)
9. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs)
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, you kinda are. I mean, it's weird. It's weird for me-
11. DJDanny Jones
  (clears throat)
12. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you know?
13. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, bro.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  But it's normal.
15. DJDanny Jones
  Well, thanks for, thank you for being, like, the number one, uh, promoter of my YouTube channel over the past couple weeks, bro.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
17. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs)
18. JRJoe Rogan
  My pleasure. It's great stuff, man. I watch it all the time. You're really good.
19. DJDanny Jones
  I appreciate that, dude.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  You got great shows, man.
21. DJDanny Jones
  I appreciate that, dude.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  And I get good guests from your show. Like, there's a couple people that have been on your show that I've had on my show.
23. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah. Yeah, Chris Dunn was the first dude, I think. And then, uh, you recently had, uh, Mary Boden-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
25. DJDanny Jones
  ... and a few others.
0:53 – 4:50
What’s under Giza? Tomography claims, coils/columns, and “gatekeepers” of Egyptology
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, yeah. Christopher Dunn, man, that was a wild one, and now that they found these structures underneath the pyramid, it's kind of validating a lot of the things these people were saying.
2. DJDanny Jones
  Mm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  You know? There's a lot of controversy about what those structures are and what it means and, and how accurate the readings are. But they do know that those satellite images were able to show very accurately this one tomb that was 50 feet underground. And they, it showed the dimensions of this one tomb. So I don't know what the capabilities are, if it really can decipher what's under two kilometers of-
4. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you know, whatever is underneath Giza, but there's something going on, for sure.
6. DJDanny Jones
  (snaps fingers) Yeah, I had a dude on m- my show a couple weeks ago who was explaining how that was a part of some YouTube channel that put something together in Italy, I think it was.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
8. DJDanny Jones
  And, um, the people that were involved with it were promoting some sort of technology that had something to do with penetrating the ground, some, like, different kind of lidar or something like this.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (smacks lips) It's ca- is, what is it called, something, tomography, right?
10. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Jim, you see what it's called. But these guys just did another, uh, explanation of it, like a- another deep dive where they did, like, this presentation and showed it. It's very convincing. Like, there's a lot of people that are 100% on board. I mean, it remains to be seen. It has to be vetted, but according to, uh, you know, s- some people that I trust that really understand the technology, they said there's absolutely something there.
12. DJDanny Jones
  Hmm.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, whether or not... The, the problem is, they made those 3D detailed images of what it looked like, like sort of an artist rendition.
14. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  And you looked at those, and it's got, like, the coils and the spirals and like, yeah, I-
16. DJDanny Jones
  It looks a little too much.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, I don't know what that i-... But you could see there are coils around those columns, but what are they? Are they stairs? Is it a-
18. DJDanny Jones
  Hm.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... like a coil that generates, like, an energy coil? Like-
20. DJDanny Jones
  Hmm.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... something that conducts electricity or carries electricity? Like, what is it?
22. DJDanny Jones
  It's a solid state electron harvester. (laughs)
23. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) Is that what they say?
24. DJDanny Jones
  That's what Chris Dunn says.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
26. DJDanny Jones
  I don't know. I don't know who Chris Dunn-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Have you talked to him about what's underneath?
28. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, he thinks that it was, uh... He thinks that the whole thing, his new book, which is called The Tesla Connection, basically explains that it's a, uh... He thinks that there was, like, a, a device in the subterranean chamber, like a hammer that hammered the Earth, and then the plane-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
30. DJDanny Jones
  ... the Giza Plateau is, like, is active, seis- seismically active area, and when it hammers the Earth, it creates mini earthquakes. You, you're familiar with this, right?
4:50 – 6:14
Granite vases, “CNC-level” precision, and the missing record problem
1. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, the, the mystery of the pyramids and, you know, moving those blocks and building that fucking thing that long ago is crazy on one hand, but then the, on the other hand, those fucking granite vases-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah.
3. DJDanny Jones
  ... that are so precise within, like, the deviation of a human hair.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, this is a 3D, uh, print-
5. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  ... of one of them that Christopher Dunn-
7. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  ... gave me.
9. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, it's insane. It's insane. They measured these on light scanners-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
11. DJDanny Jones
  ... at, like, a huge aerospace corporation somewhere, and they found out, like, it's so symmetrical. You couldn't make this unless you had a CNC machine.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
13. DJDanny Jones
  Today.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  And then how would you make the handles?
15. DJDanny Jones
  R- right, exactly, 'cause it's-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
17. DJDanny Jones
  ... it's a part of it, dude.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Right, it's not like you can even turn it on a lathe.
19. DJDanny Jones
  Right.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  And it's accurate, w- w- the, l- how many thousandths of a human hair?
21. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, I think it's, like... Yeah, I think it's, like, one one-thousandth of a human hair. Like, completely undetectable.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Bananas.
23. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  And then there's also some of those, uh, sculptures that they made that look like they're 3D printed. I mean, they're incredible, y- perfectly symmetrical-
25. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  ... on the left side and the right side, and-
27. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  ... we don't really understand it, and w- we don't know what technology they were using, what kind of tools they were using.
29. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  It's... And it's hard to know, man. It's, it's ha- it's hard to know, like, without... You know, when they burned the Library of Alexandria and they destroyed all the records, like, there's so much missing from the history of, of Egypt and how they did what they did.
6:14 – 9:14
Pyramids as industrial chemistry: fertilizer plants, ammonia, hydrogen, and repurposing theories
1. DJDanny Jones
  Have you heard of, uh, this dude named Geoffrey Drumm? He has a channel called The Land of Chem.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  No.
3. DJDanny Jones
  He live, he lives in Egypt. He lives, uh, like, I think right across the street from the pyramids. And he's basically got this very interesting theory that it was all chemical manufacturing, and the pyramids were chemical manufacturing plants. And I am gonna, like, butcher this description, but I'm gonna do my best. Basically, what he found was that in a bunch of the other pyramids, like the Red Pyramid and some of the other pyramids, he's been in there and gone through them all. And he's basically... What they describe when they go in there is this smell, which some people equate to being, like, bat shit. But what he thinks is going on is, is creating some sort of, like, a chemical reaction in those chambers to create fertilizer. Because there's a subterranean chamber below those where they have, like, all kinds of, they were putting shit in there.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Huh.
5. DJDanny Jones
  Like animal shit down there. And then there's also these, like, ravines, these, like, cutout channels that come out of the bottom of the pyramid, and there's these bowls that were supposed to collect, like, chemicals. So he has this really elaborate theory on how, which I, when I heard him tell me this, it made so much sense. But the problem is, like, it makes sense, it seems super reasonable, but, like, why build these massive structures that are so precise just to make chemicals? And, you know, he was explaining, like, the agriculture and, like, why they needed to create fertilizer, and, um ...
6. JRJoe Rogan
  But why'd they need the massive stone structure ...
7. DJDanny Jones
  Exactly.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  ... to create fertilizer?
9. DJDanny Jones
  Right, exactly.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Isn't it possible that things also had one, they- they, like, they built them, and then someone used them later on for different purposes? Isn't that possible as well?
11. DJDanny Jones
  I think so.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Like instead of it being built for that, like, maybe they just used it for that eventually?
13. DJDanny Jones
  That's possible, yeah. But it seems like the way he was describing the interior though, of that, of the Red Pyramid, was like, he re- it was reverse engineered to actually create the chemical that they w- they would've needed to enhance the agriculture of the area.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Huh.
15. DJDanny Jones
  Like, they showed it, they actually created it in a- in a lab with, like, using the chemical process. I think there was, like, some Nazi scientist involved in this.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
17. DJDanny Jones
  Of course.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Of course.
19. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs)
20. JRJoe Rogan
  The recreation of it?
21. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, and the recreation.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Um, well Christopher Dunn's stuff was all about them creating hydrogen, right?
23. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm, yeah.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Y- yeah, that was, that's what he felt, like the whole thing, like, w- was generating hydrogen, and that's what he thought. The whole, uh, those columns that went down, those passages that went down, and then there was the porous limestone that was at the end ...
25. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that seeped through.
27. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  And he believed that this was all, like, some sort of a- a chemical reaction that they had ...
29. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  ... doing this. Here, what is here, Jimmy?
9:14 – 11:43
Fritz Haber: Nobel Prize, war crimes, Zyklon gas, and personal tragedy
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Pr- Fritz Haber's a crazy story. Do you know that story?
2. DJDanny Jones
  No.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay.
4. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs)
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Fritz Haber, he devised a method of extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere. Um, and he, for that, he was winning a Nobel Prize at the same time in which he was being wanted for war crimes, because he also created Zyklon gas.
6. DJDanny Jones
  Mm.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  So he created the gas that they were using to spray on the Allies, so they would get this- this gas and spray it with fans. This is the first time they'd ever done something like this before, use gas in warfare. And they used ... And he was a Jew, and they used, uh, he created Zyklon A, which was then converted to Zyklon B. So Zyklon A had a- a very disgusting smell to it, so you knew it was coming. And then Zyklon B ...
8. GVGuest (additional voice)
  Right.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  ... they used during the Holocaust to gas the Jews, and it had no smell. So they- they ... Yeah. So the thing was initially made as a pesticide. I think that was the initial ... Here, see what it says there.
10. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, this is different.
12. DJDanny Jones
  Oh, this is-
13. JRJoe Rogan
  We're not talking about Fritz Haber.
14. GVGuest (additional voice)
  No, this is a different person. This is about the, how the Egypt thing would've been the same thing.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay, we'll- we'll get to that.
16. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  But the Fritz Haber thing, um, you know, he was eventually exiled from, um, from Nazi Germany because he was Jewish. Like, they allowed him to stay initially in the beginning 'cause he was so valuable, because he had done so much.
18. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  And 'cause he did create this gas that they were using to gas the Allies. And then, you know, but- but imagine, guy's up for a Nobel Prize at the same time where he's wanted for war crimes.
20. DJDanny Jones
  Pfft.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
22. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  And because he was doing all this, his wife commits suicide. She shoots herself, uh, in the chest. Uh, he leaves her and his, uh, 13-year-old son to go to the front line while she's struggling for her life. Like, she's still alive. She eventually dies. He leaves her in-
24. DJDanny Jones
  Jesus Christ.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, it was, the whole thing's horrific. And then he dies on the run. So he dies, uh, I think he had a heart complication, which duh. How much stress was that guy under?
26. DJDanny Jones
  Hmm.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Right? And then he leaves Nazi Germany when, you know, the shit is going down. He's on the run and he winds up dying on the run. I think he was dying on his way to try to seek medical care.
28. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, bro, that, uh, I mean, the story of what those fucking Nazis were doing is bananas.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  It's insane.
11:43 – 14:00
Operation Paperclip and the uncomfortable roots of American tech dominance
1. DJDanny Jones
  You had Annie on here and she talked about ...
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. DJDanny Jones
  ... the, what was going on when she tried to interview some of those guys that were still in Germany. I think she tried to interview, like, the grandson of one of the dudes that she wrote about. Uh, I can't remember his name right now, a dude with, like, a huge dueling scar on his face.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (sighs)
5. DJDanny Jones
  And this guy, like, wanted nothing to do with his gr- with his father or whatever. And, uh, you know, she had these documents that she found ...... when she went to Germany and she was like, she f- I guess she found a bunch of notes or whatever that he wrote to his son when he came, w- after he went to America with Paperclip. And his grand... Or this was his grandson, I think.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Operation Paperclip, for people listening-
7. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  ... is they, they shipped over a bunch of the best Nazi scientists and brought them into NASA-
9. DJDanny Jones
  Yes.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and some other departments at the end of the war.
11. DJDanny Jones
  And the grandson wanted nothing to do with his father. He, like, detested him, his father, with every fiber of his being. And she was showing him the notes and, like, showing him, like, the humanity of the guy. The guy was torn between, like, being this scientist contracted to do all this crazy shit for America, but he still loved his wife and son on the other hand. And he was like, he was so just torn apart by the fact that he had to leave them behind.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Ugh.
13. DJDanny Jones
  And then she showed the dude the documents, and then just Annie Jacobson fricking high-tailed it out of there with all that secret Nazi shit, like, didn't get caught.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
15. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs) Which is incredible.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, it's just wild the stuff they were working on. Like, how were they so advanced?
17. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  And why were they so obsessed with the occult?
19. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  You know?
21. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  It's like all that Indiana Jones stuff, that was kind of legit.
23. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, they were really interested in the occult.
25. DJDanny Jones
  Hmm.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
27. DJDanny Jones
  Interdimensional aliens.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
29. DJDanny Jones
  What's, what's Alex thinking about them?
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Interdimensional child molesters.
14:00 – 20:14
Kubrick, The Shining’s ‘Room 237,’ and how conspiracy pattern-matching works
1. DJDanny Jones
  Speaking of the moon.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Eh. (laughs)
3. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs) Have you seen that documentary c- called Room 237?
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
5. DJDanny Jones
  I just watched it last night.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, yeah.
7. DJDanny Jones
  Fucking bananas.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, that's bananas. The, the connections between Kubrick's The Shining and the moon landing-
9. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and all the hidden stuff-
11. DJDanny Jones
  Yes.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that he did, all the Easter eggs-
13. DJDanny Jones
  Yes, yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  ... including the little boy with the NASA shirt on-
15. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, he's got the Apollo 11 shirt on.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... the Apollo shirt on.
17. DJDanny Jones
  And then the key to the room 237 said, "Room N" instead of "N-O 237," it just said, "Room N237," so you could... Bro, I mean, I am like-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  What does that mean?
19. DJDanny Jones
  So, like, if you take the letters R-O-O-M and an N, you can com- re- recombobulate them to say moon.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, God. (laughs)
21. DJDanny Jones
  Right? Like, there's so much dot connecting-
22. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
23. DJDanny Jones
  ... in that fucking, in that documentary, it's absurd.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Some of that is silly.
25. DJDanny Jones
  There's an absurd level of dot connecting that just is, is, uh, unreasonable. But the stuff about the moon though, like, the kid wearing the Apollo 11 shirt, right?
26. JRJoe Rogan
  The number of the door is the distance from the Earth to the moon-
27. DJDanny Jones
  Yes.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  ... in miles.
29. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Thousands of miles.
20:14 – 26:06
Moon landing skepticism: training footage, photo fakery, and the ‘backup plan’ argument
1. DJDanny Jones
  Right in the middle of Operation Paperclip, MKUltra-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh-huh.
3. DJDanny Jones
  ... the Cold War-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh-huh.
5. DJDanny Jones
  ... all the fucking deception that was going on, all the secrets.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  They lied about everything.
7. DJDanny Jones
  That was the time in history where they probably had the most fucking lies. (laughs)
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Vietnam War.
9. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, yeah.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  They lied about everything.
11. DJDanny Jones
  Kenny.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  So, the, the idea that they didn't lie about this one thing, the moon landing-
13. DJDanny Jones
  Right. Yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  ... was all 100% legit. Meanwhile, you've got intersecting shadows, you've got all sorts of problems. You've got... The weirdest one, uh, is Neil Armstrong's 25th anniversary speech that he gave at the White House.
15. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) That one's so crazy. "We have here among us America's breast- best and brightest."
17. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs)
18. JRJoe Rogan
  "You will achieve great things."
19. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  "Great," b- once, "once you reveal some of truth's hidden layers."
21. DJDanny Jones
  Once the hidden layers are uncovered-
22. JRJoe Rogan
  What?
23. DJDanny Jones
  ... it made more sense.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  How about just say, "I went to the moon 25 years ago"?
25. DJDanny Jones
  Right.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, what is all this cryptic talk?
27. DJDanny Jones
  That was the only time he ever did a public talk, I think, about it.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, the other thing is the post-flight press conference. The post-flight press conference looks like these guys have a gun to their head.
29. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  It looks like a hostage video.
26:06 – 29:03
Nuclear war math: interceptors, ‘use it or lose it,’ and near-apocalypse errors
1. DJDanny Jones
  Annie's book about nuclear war scared the f- living shit out of me, bro.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God, yeah, it's a good one.
3. DJDanny Jones
  How she said that we have 11 interceptor missiles in the US.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  That's it.
5. DJDanny Jones
  A total... I think it's... I think it's 11 or maybe 22. Or no, it's 44. 44.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  And Russia has 5,000 missiles.
7. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Damn.
9. DJDanny Jones
  And the problem with it is, like, if a rogue nuke got launched from North Korea, from one of their submarines, it would have to fly over the North Pole, right, towards us, and as soon as they launch it, with all of our satellite systems that we can detect the thing, the, uh, rocket burner, like, going into orbit, we'll know within five minutes of them launching it. Probably before. And then we literally have to... I guess, like, the way she described it was our policy is once that nuke is launched, we have to empty our silos, our, uh, ICBM silos, because they're stationary. They can't... If they're hit, they're gonna, they're gonna try to take us out at those ICBM sites, that's gonna be, like, one of their first targets. So it's use it or lose it. You have to launch all those ICBM nukes and then we have to fly those over the North Pole, over Russia, to hit North Korea. And it takes, like, 11 minutes, so, like-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  (sighs)
11. DJDanny Jones
  ... you gotta get Putin on the phone in 10 minutes saying, "Yo, these-"
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God.
13. DJDanny Jones
  "... nukes aren't coming for you, bro."
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God.
15. DJDanny Jones
  "They're going for Kim Jong-un."
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God.
17. DJDanny Jones
  And then by that time, it's like, i- if you don't have, like, perfect communication amongst all these world leaders, everyone's gonna be launching nukes.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, you know the story about that one Russian military guy that was the reason why Russia didn't la- launch a retaliatory strike? Because there was an error.
19. DJDanny Jones
  The submarine guy?
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
21. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  There was an error and they thought the United States had launched a missile towards Russia and they were-
23. DJDanny Jones
  There it is.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  ... ready to respond.
25. DJDanny Jones
  Wow.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh-
27. DJDanny Jones
  That's Jolly West in the background, bro.
28. GVGuest (additional voice)
  Yeah, it's unconfirmed if it was him. I don't know if anyone confirmed it.
29. DJDanny Jones
  That's... If you can find a young photo-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Zoom in on him. Zoom in on him.
29:03 – 35:47
Jolly West, MKUltra, LSD soldiers, and the logic of mind-control experiments
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Um, look, man, that guy was one of the biggest pieces of shit in the history of the United States government. What he did was nuts. Just, just the fucking Manson stuff was nuts.
2. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  The MKUltra stuff was unbelie-... And imagine you could do all this stuff, no one's investigating you, no one even knows. It's all completely top secret. Congress has no idea you even exist in this realm.
4. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  And they're running around doing, like-
6. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, I was talking to Hamilton about it. I'm like, "Dude, isn't that crazy all the stuff they were doing with MKUltra?" Hamilton's like, "Uh, no." (laughs) "Of course those guys were doing that shit."
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Who's Hamilton?
8. DJDanny Jones
  Hamilton? Hamilton Morris.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, Hamilton.
10. GVGuest (additional voice)
  Yeah, yeah. (laughs)
11. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, that guy, of course. (clears throat) Hamilton's-
13. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs) He's like, "Of course they were doing that, bro."
14. GVGuest (additional voice)
  Hamilton's fascinating.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Well, I mean, look, if you have some unique compound like LSD-
16. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and, you know, it gets to... You know, Hoffman discovers it and then they start experimenting like, "What can we do with this stuff?" And then you, you find it has profound effects on the human mind. Y- Of course you're gonna try-
18. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... to use it for mind control.
20. DJDanny Jones
  Right.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  They had already experimented with all sorts of techniques in regards to, um, doing it with prisoners, like taking prisoners and trying to figure out, like, what kind of-
22. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  ... sleep deprivation, what kind of... What psychological techniques can you use to extract information from them? So if you had something like LSD, (clears throat) of course they're gonna try that.
24. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Makes sense.
26. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  They were doing it way back in the '50s in the UK with those British soldiers. I'm sure you've seen that video.
28. DJDanny Jones
  No, I have not seen that video.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  You've never seen that?
30. DJDanny Jones
  No.
35:47 – 47:43
Gavin McInnes, Vice, and culture-war escalation into trans sports and ‘cult’ politics
1. DJDanny Jones
  Gavin McInnes told me before I came here, I was like, "You got any advice for Joe Rogan?" He's like... (laughs)
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) Yeah, Gavin McInnes.
3. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs) He said, "Slam three beers and eat an Adderall." (laughs) I was like-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
5. DJDanny Jones
  ... "No, bro." (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  That sounds like something he would do.
7. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. He came... Do you ever see the time, time he came in dressed like Michael Douglas-
9. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah, of course.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... walking down?
11. DJDanny Jones
  Of course.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  W- w- walking... What is it... What was the movie?
13. DJDanny Jones
  Uh, I forget the name of the movie, but yeah, that one, that one was incredible.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  When he freaked out? When Michael Douglas-
15. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... like, had enough?
17. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, he, uh-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
19. DJDanny Jones
  ... he slams beers 24/7. He's constantly drinking Budweiser.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
21. DJDanny Jones
  Ev- ev- I've never seen him without a Budweiser in his hand. How it works.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
23. DJDanny Jones
  It's great.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, he's a smart guy. Yeah, he's a funny guy too.
25. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  He just-... the Proud Boys thing was just, uh... Uh, if he had never done that, he would be, like, a, well, a famous commentator today.
27. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, you think about, like, like, Steve Bannon, all these other guys, like, he's way funnier than any of those guys.
29. DJDanny Jones
  Oh, yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  And he's very insightful.
47:43 – 56:33
Iran: 1953 coup, oil, jihad’s shifting meaning, and blowback in the Middle East
1. DJDanny Jones
  And there are, and I think a huge amount of the Iranian population supports Israel too, and it's like you would never fucking know that, unless you're like-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
3. DJDanny Jones
  ... talking to them or listening to some of these-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, there's a-
5. DJDanny Jones
  ... interviews of these people.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  A ton of Persian Jews that moved to Los Angeles, you know?
7. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  That was like at the fall, I guess it was in the '70s when, uh ... So this is the story for people that don't know about Iran. So there was a gentleman who was democratically elected. I forget his name. Mogaa ... b- what is his name? Mogaa Mah- too ... Mm, I'm gonna fuck it up. So, he decided that he was gonna nationalize oil in Iran, and they got him out (fingers snap) like that. They installed the Shah and turned it into-
9. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... an Islamic dictatorship.
11. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  But they had access to the oil.
13. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  So the CIA and the, the British government and everybody conspired-
15. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... to get rid of this democratically elected guy, 'cause Iran at the time was like w- women were wearing shorts, p- or skirts rather, walking down the street. It looked cool. There it is.
17. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... uh, Mohammad Mosaddegh.
19. DJDanny Jones
  Mosaddegh.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Mosaddegh. Okay. So let's, let's zoom in on the story here. It says, uh, "Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh was removed from power in a coup organized and financed by British and US governments. The Shah quickly returned to take power and signed off over 40% of Iran's oil fields to US companies." (laughs)
21. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs)
22. JRJoe Rogan
  It's crazy, man. It's like it's so transparent.
23. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  They didn't even wait a couple years. They didn't leave it alone. "Well, the Shah's in power now. We'll see how things go."
25. DJDanny Jones
  Right, right.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  No, they immediately came in and signed everything off.
27. DJDanny Jones
  Yep.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  "1953, the CIA and British intelligence orchestrated a coup d'état that toppled the dem- democratically elected government of Iran."
29. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs)
30. JRJoe Rogan
  "The government of Mohammad Mosaddegh, uh, the aftershocks of the coup are still being felt. '51, Prime Minister Mosaddegh roused Britain, Britain's ire when he nationalized the oil industry." So the oil, they weren't making money off the oil. They were making money, but not as much money as, uh, the British were.
56:33 – 1:13:21
Diddy, Epstein, missing tapes, and honeypots as an intelligence business model
1. DJDanny Jones
  What do you think about the, uh, that, this Diddy thing that just happened this morning, where he-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Kinda crazy, you know?
3. DJDanny Jones
  He's free. (laughs)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  I'll tell you what, Kurt Metzger called this from the beginning. And especially when he found out that Comey's daughter was going to be the, uh, the judge. Did you know that?
5. DJDanny Jones
  No, I did not know that.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Wasn't she the same judge on the Ghislaine Maxwell case?
7. GVGuest (additional voice)
  I think so.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
9. DJDanny Jones
  Oh, yes. I did hear this.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Yeah. Bro, where's the videos?
11. DJDanny Jones
  (laughs)
12. JRJoe Rogan
  They were telling us that a video was gonna come out, incredibly high-profile people doing horrendous things, evil things. People are gonna go to jail. People are gonna be shocked.
13. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Where?
15. DJDanny Jones
  Right.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Nothing.
17. DJDanny Jones
  Well, like-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Zero.
19. DJDanny Jones
  ... my thing about the Diddy thing is like, (sighs) I don't really give a fuck. These people are all... They're of age. They're over, they're like 18 years old. And is it shitty what he's doing? Trying to, like, use people and leverage them and to do these weird sexual things and, like, sick shit, just the most sick shit you could possibly think of. But, like, the way I, I look at it is these people are using this Diddy stuff. It, all it does is, like, take away from the real child trafficking that's going on with, like, underage kids, right?
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
21. DJDanny Jones
  There's, like, what? 300,000-something, like, missing kids. Like, talking about Diddy and his oil parties with these 18-year-olds, like, do I think it's good? No. I, I wanna beat up their dad, but other than that, I don't really give a fuck if there's, like, 18 to 19-year-olds that are doing this stuff, as long as they're not being, like, actually, like, physically raped. But, I mean, it seems like what's going on is just, like, this weird cultish thing where they, they slowly get, get creeped tor- creep closer, and closer, and closer to this thing. Like, "Oh, I'm here now. All these famous people are here. They're doing this." Like, "Ah."
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Elaborate parties-
23. DJDanny Jones
  Yeah.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  ... l- lots of money, everything you want, the golden carrot at the end of the stick.
25. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm. Right.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  So the thing is, he's not even being charged for any of the things you just brought up. He's not being charged for blackmail.
27. DJDanny Jones
  Right.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Which is kind of crazy-
29. DJDanny Jones
  Mm-hmm.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  ... because like, it, w- what did they do? If... Why did they tell us that there was all these videos of all these high-profile people and then silence?

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Danny Jones finally “in the video game” + shoutout to his YouTube run

What’s under Giza? Tomography claims, coils/columns, and “gatekeepers” of Egyptology

Granite vases, “CNC-level” precision, and the missing record problem

Pyramids as industrial chemistry: fertilizer plants, ammonia, hydrogen, and repurposing theories

Fritz Haber: Nobel Prize, war crimes, Zyklon gas, and personal tragedy

Operation Paperclip and the uncomfortable roots of American tech dominance

Kubrick, The Shining’s ‘Room 237,’ and how conspiracy pattern-matching works

Moon landing skepticism: training footage, photo fakery, and the ‘backup plan’ argument

Nuclear war math: interceptors, ‘use it or lose it,’ and near-apocalypse errors

Jolly West, MKUltra, LSD soldiers, and the logic of mind-control experiments

Gavin McInnes, Vice, and culture-war escalation into trans sports and ‘cult’ politics

Iran: 1953 coup, oil, jihad’s shifting meaning, and blowback in the Middle East

Diddy, Epstein, missing tapes, and honeypots as an intelligence business model

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