Joe Rogan Experience #2351 - James McCann

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) John, John, John McHarg, my man.

   3. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann0:13

      Hey, thank you for having me here.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      My pleasure.

   5. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann0:16

      It's a joy.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      It's a joy to have you, sir. I've been having a good time hanging out with you at the club, so...

   7. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann0:21

      It's been great.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Felt like we gotta do that.

   9. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann0:23

      This is very... Ah, man, I'm trying not to spin out.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       (laughs)

   11. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann0:27

       This is... I have watched this on a phone before. This is great.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Well, it's weird for me that it's weird for people, because to me, it's still the same thing. It's just sitting down and talking to people.

   13. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann0:36

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       I've gotten so used to it, even when it's like Trump, or Elon, or some fucking huge cultural figure, it's still just like very...

   15. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann0:44

       You must have spun out at least one time.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       I spun out a bunch of times in the early days. I still spin out every now and then, like, uh, you know, like, you, like Mel Gibson's on the podcast-

   17. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann0:55

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       ... you're like, "Oh, that's really Mel Gibson." Mike Tyson, that's another one. Um, yeah.

   19. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann0:59

       Yeah, he was... Was this where he said he became erect when he wanted to beat people up?

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       That was in, uh, California.

   21. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:06

       Okay.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Yeah. That was... (laughs)

   23. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:07

       That's a classic.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       (laughs)

   25. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:08

       That's a classic, all-time great moment.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       He was, he was scaring the shit out of me. Whew.

   27. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:16

       Man, I spin out... When I first got to the club, I was going, it was every week I would, uh...

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       It's weird, right?

   29. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:21

       When I first met Adam Egert, I went... I, I, I... You know, it's, "Hello, Mr. Egert. H- I've seen you. You denied the Holocaust." (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:31

       (laughs) Not really. We should be real clear.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   One of the all-time…

   1. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann15:00

      they don't have to write anything and they're... (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      One of the all-time grea... I mean, if you... One of the all-time greats is Richard Jeni. I mean, he's an all-time great. And, um, when I saw him in, like, the 1980s, he did a club... I guess it was probably '90, '91 maybe? East Side Comedy Club. He did four different hours and-

   3. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann15:23

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:23

      ... the emcee wanted to quit comedy after he emceed for him that weekend. He said, "He did four different hours, a different hour on, uh, Friday night, first show, different hour, second show, different hour, first show Saturday night-

   5. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann15:34

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:34

      ... different hour..." And all of them murdered, and he said, "It was insane," and he goes, "I wanted to quit comedy." He saw Hicks and he said to me, like, we were hanging out together. He was like, "God, I gotta, I wish I... Makes me wanna do more of that, you know? I feel like-

   7. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann15:49

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:49

      ... sometimes I'm not doing enough of that." I was like, "Wow, that's crazy."

   9. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann15:52

      Do you know a Ken Dodd? Do you know the... He was a Liverpudlian comedian, I think, but he would come out and he would do his new hour and people would, like, clap and say thank you, and then he would, he would say, "Right, I'm gonna do the hour I did last time I was in town. You can leave if you want, but I'll do..." And the second hour is the hour he did the year before. And then he'd do the hour that he did the year before that, and he'd just do hour after hour until the whole, until... Like, as people had enough, they could get up and walk away-

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       Wow.

   11. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann16:16

       ... but he'd be there for, like, seven hours.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:17

       Jesus Christ.

   13. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann16:18

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       You know who used to do that?

   15. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann16:20

       He was still the best, I've hated it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       Chappelle used to do that. He used to pull up to the Laugh Factory and do, like, a nine-hour set.

   17. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann16:25

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:26

       Yeah.

   19. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann16:26

       He's still doing it, I think.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       I think him and Dane Cook had, like, a battle to see, like, who, who could do the longest set. (laughs)

   21. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann16:33

       I mean, I saw, I got to go to-

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       I don't think Dave was, like, trying to battle but I think Dade, like, took the title.

   23. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann16:39

       Shane took me to his, the, the YS Firehouse, the club that Dave has set up in, uh...

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       Mm-hmm. Yellow Springs.

   25. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann16:45

       Yeah, and it was on his birthday and he did three hours and he bombed at his own birthday.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:50

       (laughs)

   27. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann16:50

       And he kept saying, "I can't believe I'm bombing at my own club on my birthday."

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:55

       (laughs)

   29. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann16:55

       But then in the middle, there was a guy with a coat and he just did maybe 45 minutes about this guy's coat of crowd work on hi... Just a... It was magical. The whole thing flew. He could release an hour on this guy's coat.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:07

       (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   I have. …

   1. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann30:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      I have.

   3. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann30:00

      It's like drinking a secret.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      I think raw milk should be like raw meat. Leave me alone.

   5. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann30:04

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      Leave me alone. I know how to cook a steak, right?

   7. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann30:07

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      You don't, you don't tell me how to cook a steak. You let me buy raw milk. Let me buy it.

   9. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann30:11

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:12

       If you let me buy raw meat, let me buy raw milk. Shut the fuck up. Now, are you saying that it's killing people? Okay, where's your evidence? And is pasteurization and homogenization, which does make it more shelf-stable and it make it so that you could, you know, you can keep it in the refrigerator for a long time and it's still fine, you know, it has a expired by date.

   11. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann30:32

       Yes.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       Raw milk goes bad quick. So, should you drink the bad raw milk? No, definitely not. But is there anything probably-

   13. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann30:39

       There's probably a limit on how much you should have.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       ... super beneficial about drinking the raw milk? Well, there seems to be a lot of evidence, as long as it doesn't have bacteria in it. Okay, well, how do you prevent that? Well, I feel like we can do that.See, this ... I don't think the solution is-

   15. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann30:52

       It doesn't feel especially well-regulated at the moment.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       That's the problem.

   17. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann30:54

       I bought it from a guy's muddy van.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       Oh. Yeah, that's the problem.

   19. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann30:57

       And then as I was vomiting and shitting, I was like, "This doesn't feel natural."

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       You gotta get it-

   21. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann31:00

       I'm not a cow.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       ... from a reputable farmer. But if you do get it-

   23. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann31:02

       I don't know where that guy is.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       ... from a reputable farm ... They exist. There's, like, a whole-

   25. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann31:05

       Can I hit up Sye's list?

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       ... website where you can find raw milk, 'cause people are raw milk nuts.

   27. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann31:09

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       Which is also what turns me off to raw milk, the raw milk crazies.

   29. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann31:12

       I mean, I got it. I... With... For about six hours, I thought I had-

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:16

       (laughs)
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Oh, boy. …

   1. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:00

      it or get off American energy subsidies or something.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      Oh, boy.

   3. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:02

      And then all of a sudden he was removed.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      Oh, boy.

   5. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:06

      And we haven't rocked that boat again.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      We are so good at that.

   7. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:10

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      Between us and the Israelis. The Israelis do the wildest assassinations. Like, did you see the one of them that they did with the Iranian generals? Let's see, make sure that this is true, Jamie.

   9. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:19

      I can get my visa removed for criticizing Israel.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:22

       No, no, no. It's, this is a, this is not a criticism.

   11. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:23

       So I wanna say I'm impressed by their beautiful assassinations.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:26

       This is not a, this is not a criticism.

   13. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:28

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       This is saying, like, "This is one of the most gangster things I've ever seen in my life." They made a fake phone call to all these military leaders and said, "Everybody's gotta meet at the bunker," and then they blew the bunker up.

   15. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:39

       That's very Godfather, what they're doing.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Bro, it's gangster as fuck.

   17. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:43

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       And then you add that to the pagers. They, they sent-

   19. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:46

       Pagers.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       ... pagers out. Like, didn't they send them out, like, a long time in advance?

   21. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:49

       Yeah. I think so. And they got in on the supply side of it.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:54

       Yes.

   23. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann45:54

       Like, they made the pagers and managed to...

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       Bro. Cr- I mean, you think about how incompetent some forms of our government are.

   25. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann46:02

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       And then how good they are at killing people that they want dead. It's pretty impressive.

   27. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann46:07

       They could do that with pot holes in the Midwest, that would be great.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       I know, right?

   29. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann46:09

       If we could move people out of the CIA and into there.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       That same level of int- Well, that's not CIA. That's the Mossad. But that's the same level of inten- or the IDF or whoever does it over in Israel. But the same level of intensity with other things, you could dominate the world.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:05:16

   The other one's like…

   1. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:00:00

      of soldiers.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      The other one's like an agreement.

   3. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:00:02

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      Like, if the wife can't get pregnant, but she wants to have a baby and she says, "Listen, if you fuck my best friend, she'll have the baby."

   5. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:00:08

      We'll adopt a baby.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      "And then we'll, we'll take care of the baby."

   7. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:00:10

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      "And I know that I can't have babies." But you, you know, if that's... If you guys were that kind of swingers and you're down with that, then that's, that's up to you.

   9. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:00:20

      That feels different from science.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

       That's not surrogacy.

   11. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:00:23

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

       You just had a baby with a different human.

   13. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:00:24

       No, sur- surrogacy seems-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       Right.

   15. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:00:26

       ... bad and wr-... I'm, I'm, I'm digging in.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       Well, bro, it's gonna go to artificial wombs, all right? That's gonna be the new one. And whether that's 20 years from now or 50 years from now, th- you're gonna be able to make a baby outside of a human body. It's gonna get real freaky soon.

   17. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:00:42

       We gotta be... We gotta draw a hot line.

   18. G(Guest 2 (unidentified)1:00:43

       When you pulled this up, I was... The IVF thing-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:45

       Mm-hmm, yeah.

   20. G(Guest 2 (unidentified)1:00:46

       Gave me a weird thought. I'm a little stoned thought.

   21. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:00:48

       Well, it's not possible how Jesus was born, was it? They didn't have any sort of way to do in vitro fertilization back then- You're saying that our Lord was an IVF baby? ... and they just, like, forgot about it?

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       Could be. Could be that they had that technique.

   23. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:00:58

       Jamie, it was the Holy Spirit. I'm just... I, I, I know what they say.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       (laughs)

   25. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:01:01

       I'm just... But like...

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Yeah. Well-

   27. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:01:03

       Devil's advocate, obviously, but like-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       Well, for sure they could have, um, inserted sperm into her. Without her ever-

   29. JMJames Donald Forbes McCann1:01:10

       There was-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

       ... having sex they could-

Episode duration: 2:52:33