Joe Rogan Experience #2354 - Joe DeRosa

1. 0:00 – 1:56

   Catching up at the Mothership and Ari Shaffir’s “walkabout” lifestyle

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays) Dun, dun, dun. Joe DeRosa taking notes. Look at you, scholarly young man.

   3. JDJoe DeRosa0:17

      There's so many-

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      What are you writing down?

   5. JDJoe DeRosa0:18

      There's so many things I wanna talk to you about.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Yeah?

   7. JDJoe DeRosa0:23

      Yeah, this is like a really ... This is really interesting, like, like, to, to sit with you one-on-one like this.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:29

      Hmm.

   9. JDJoe DeRosa0:30

      It really is, because ... And I say that outside of who you are to the world, which is obviously impressive. I say it to you just as a comic that knows you and has been friendly with you for many years. We don't get a l- you know, usually when I see you, it's at The Mothership.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Green room, 50 people around.

   11. JDJoe DeRosa0:48

       50 people.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Yeah.

   13. JDJoe DeRosa0:49

       It's your place.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Right.

   15. JDJoe DeRosa0:50

       There's a lot going on. And, uh, I was like, "Man, it's gonna be interesting to get to sit, like, across from Joe and just talk to him, like-"

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Yeah.

   17. JDJoe DeRosa0:58

       "... and have a conversation with."

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       What did you write down?

   19. JDJoe DeRosa1:00

       I wrote sober.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Sober.

   21. JDJoe DeRosa1:03

       Uh, which I'll explain.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       Okay.

   23. JDJoe DeRosa1:04

       But family was the first thing I wrote, which-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       Okay.

   25. JDJoe DeRosa1:07

       ... or the second thing I wrote, but the first thing I wanted to say, was, um ... It's incredible, man, 'cause I was in there last night, my special came out yesterday, and I was in the club last night, I just dropped in real quick to say hi to Tony and, and Ari was around for his last night before he-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       Yeah, what is he doing? He's going on a walkabout?

   27. JDJoe DeRosa1:25

       Some secret. (laughs)

   28. NANarrator1:26

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       He just sent, sent me some text message, it s- it said, "This weekend was perfect for my send-off from standup comedy." And I go, "What does that mean, my send-off?"

   30. JDJoe DeRosa1:35

       Um ...
2. 1:56 – 5:17

   Ari’s boundary-pushing comedy and why shock is the point

   1. JDJoe DeRosa1:56

      Yes. And he's done some stuff. He's a polarizing individual, to some-

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:00

      Oh, without a doubt.

   3. NANarrator2:01

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:01

      Without a doubt. He took a shit on stage with a note inside of it during a Skankfest show. He shit on the plastic and then pulled out the note and read it.

   5. JDJoe DeRosa2:10

      The, uh ... Yeah, I remember that happening.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:12

      Yeah. Don't do that.

   7. JDJoe DeRosa2:13

      He ... I talked to him about it.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:15

      Yeah.

   9. JDJoe DeRosa2:15

      And he goes ... I go, I go, "Ari, I love you. Why, why, why do you make it so hard for yourself?"

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:21

       (sings) Ah. Ah. Ah.

   11. JDJoe DeRosa2:22

       And he goes ... And he got mad. We were sitting in the green room at Mothership. It was just me and him, and he got mad, and he's sitting there, he goes, he goes, "Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And, and, and censor jokes." And then I go, "No, no, no. I'm not into censoring jokes. I'm saying you shouldn't bloody shit on a stage." And he kept going, and I look him in the eye, I go, "Brien, you did the only thing I've ever seen shake Brian Holtzman." Or, or Ari, sorry. I go, "Ari, you've done the only thing I've seen shake Brian Holtzman. I saw Brian after you did that, and Holtzman was like ..." (mumbles)

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:52

       (laughs)

   13. JDJoe DeRosa2:53

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:53

       But that's what he wants. That's what Ari wants. Mission accomplished.

   15. JDJoe DeRosa2:57

       Oh my God.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:57

       Yeah, he's like, you know, he's, he's the real deal. He's-

   17. JDJoe DeRosa3:01

       Yes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:01

       ... really fucking throws it all into the fire. He runs right into the wood chipper. Let's see.

   19. JDJoe DeRosa3:05

       Yes.

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:06

       (laughs)

   21. JDJoe DeRosa3:06

       Yeah. He, um ... It's-

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:08

       But I like it, like he thinks, he's thinking about, like, creatively, you hit, like, dips and you don't know what to talk about anymore, and sometimes you need to go on a walkabout.

   23. JDJoe DeRosa3:20

       Yeah, I think ... I see him, and I, I admire it greatly, because it's so opposite of how I'm wired, but ...

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:27

       Yeah, it's not me either. I don't dig it. But he goes, like, months at a time with nothing but, like, a burner phone.

   25. JDJoe DeRosa3:33

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:34

       No text message, no emails, no nothing.

   27. JDJoe DeRosa3:37

       I said to him yesterday, I go, "I'm gonna miss you, dude."

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:40

       (makes crying sounds)

   29. JDJoe DeRosa3:40

       He's like, "I'm gonna miss you too." And I go, I go, "Please stay in touch." He goes ... I go, "Please stay in touch." He goes, he goes, "I'll hit you up in a couple of months with a number from another c-" I was like ... (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:50

       Yeah, he likes to do that.
3. 5:17 – 9:53

   Healthcare rage, insurance denial, and the “demonic” incentive structure

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:17

      But also, like when you realize how ... You know Ben Askren, I don't know who his healthcare provider was, but Ben Askren, he developed some kind of crazy pneumonia and then it became necrotic, so it like ate holes in his lungs.

   2. JDJoe DeRosa5:31

      Okay.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:32

      He's 40 years old, is a former UFC fighter, former Bellator champion.

   4. JDJoe DeRosa5:37

      Okay.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:37

      Elite athlete, fantastic wrestler. Had to get a double lung surgery, double lung replacement surgery at 40, and insurance didn't wanna cover it.

   6. JDJoe DeRosa5:46

      It's insane. It's insane.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:48

      What are you talking about? He's going to die. Like, he doesn't have lungs anymore. He was on a fucking, a ventilator for months.

   8. JDJoe DeRosa5:54

      The-

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:54

      He didn't have lungs anymore.

   10. JDJoe DeRosa5:56

       I can't even fathom. I just had, I just had a bunch of water damage. My dishwasher leaked while I was away and I had a bunch of water damage in my condo that I had to get obviously fixed. There was rotted wood and-... cottage mold and all this stuff. And for... My insurance company gave me sort of what I needed to cover it. You know what I mean?

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:20

       Yeah.

   12. JDJoe DeRosa6:21

       And I was furious. I can't fucking imagine if you're-

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:25

       It was your health.

   14. JDJoe DeRosa6:25

       ... in a situation like that-

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:26

       Right.

   16. JDJoe DeRosa6:26

       ... where it's your health, or if it's your home, like with the people with the fires.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:29

       Oh, yeah.

   18. JDJoe DeRosa6:30

       I can't even imagine the fucking rage-

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:36

       Yeah.

   20. JDJoe DeRosa6:36

       ... like, it's- it's- it's undefinable. And they wouldn't cover. So- so that's it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:40

       Such a weird game they're playing. Their business is pay you as little as possible-

   22. JDJoe DeRosa6:44

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:45

       ... and get you to give them money every month, so that maybe if something happens, they'll pay for it. Maybe. But maybe not.

   24. JDJoe DeRosa6:53

       I have a friend-

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:54

       Maybe not.

   26. JDJoe DeRosa6:55

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:55

       Maybe, maybe not. Maybe you need a double lung transplant, and they're like, "Nope, we're not gonna cover that. That's too much money."

   28. JDJoe DeRosa6:59

       Yeah. Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:00

       "Come- come to court."

   30. JDJoe DeRosa7:01

       Yeah.
4. 9:53 – 15:58

   Accountability collapse: corporate culture, politics, and the ethics “epidemic”

   1. JDJoe DeRosa9:53

      The thing that leaves me without hope, and I am not a very hope-filled individual, but the thing that leaves me without... with- with even less hope every day is I feel like the culture, and people in all positions, you know?

   2. JRJoe Rogan10:06

      Uh-huh.

   3. JDJoe DeRosa10:06

      But yours is- is... We're talking a very macro example of- of the thing. I find that more and more people every day put themselves... they position themselves in a way where they say, "I will not be accountable, and I will force you to be the one that has accountability to hold me to something.

   4. JRJoe Rogan10:25

      Right.

   5. JDJoe DeRosa10:25

      "And until you hold me to something where I cannot squirm or pivot in any way, at that point, I will then be accountable." And I feel that more and more people operate like that, obviously on a corporate level, but also an individualistic level. It makes me very, very sad. It's like having so many people that you encounter in your life, sometimes it's friends, and you're sitting there going, "Really? I- I have to be the adult?"

   6. JRJoe Rogan10:50

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JDJoe DeRosa10:51

      "I have to sit you down as a 48-year-old man and say to you, 'What you're acting like right now is fucked up.'"

   8. JRJoe Rogan10:58

      Yeah.

   9. JDJoe DeRosa10:58

      "Why do I have to do that with you? Because you're not gonna do it, so I guess I have to."

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:03

       Right.

   11. JDJoe DeRosa11:03

       And the more that you try to hold yourself to accountability, I find... And I'm not patting myself on the back in any way, but I find that burden grows and grows and grows, and you just start to get to this place where you're like, "What the fuck is going on?" It's like an epidemic of ethics at a certain point.

   12. JRJoe Rogan11:20

       Especially if you are... if- if you get indoctrinated into a real cutthroat corporate environment.

   13. JDJoe DeRosa11:26

       Mm-hmm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan11:27

       You know, those guys can justify a lot of stuff 'cause that's in the culture. Like our culture is talking shit to each other. Like the way we talk shit to each other, like there's a lot of people in a lot of other jobs they would have a giant problem-

   15. JDJoe DeRosa11:39

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan11:39

       ... with what you and I think is awesome.

   17. JDJoe DeRosa11:41

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:41

       Like if you cracked on me and it was fucking awesome and we're all howling, like I could get you in real trouble if we were accountants.

   19. JDJoe DeRosa11:47

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan11:48

       You know?

   21. JDJoe DeRosa11:48

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan11:49

       If we were accountants, that'd be a giant problem.

   23. JDJoe DeRosa11:51

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:51

       So we're used to fucking with each other and we're used to laughing about stuff and we're used to saying ridiculous shit that we don't really mean just for fun. And most people aren't. So this is our culture. This would freak, like y- if you got normies and you brought them into the green room of the mo- mothership and we're all just hanging out one night just talking and having fun, it'd probably freak them out-

   25. JDJoe DeRosa12:11

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan12:11

       ... that people talk like this. Like, "Jesus Christ, you guys are at work and you talk like this? This is crazy."

   27. JDJoe DeRosa12:15

       It's why comics get... I've seen people get very offended who aren't comics that get brought into a green room.

   28. JRJoe Rogan12:20

       Right.

   29. JDJoe DeRosa12:20

       And the comics are kind of ignoring them or making it very clear, "We don't want you in here."

   30. JRJoe Rogan12:24

       Yeah.
5. 15:58 – 17:52

   Remote work backlash and why offices try to feel like adult daycare

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:58

      It's just a better way of life for sure. Well, at least for us. But the thing is, some people, they genuinely like coding. (laughs)

   2. JDJoe DeRosa16:05

      (snorts)

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:05

      You know what I mean?

   4. JDJoe DeRosa16:06

      Right. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan16:06

      So it's like, unless you can get a job offsite where they let you... They don't even d- let you do that anymore. Now they're making people go back to work, which is so interesting.

   6. JDJoe DeRosa16:14

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan16:14

      'Cause there was a few people that fucked it up for everybody else probably. It was like a bunch of lazy people who fucked off and didn't really do their work and kind of like half-assed everything-

   8. JDJoe DeRosa16:23

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:23

      ... 'cause they were at home in their fucking pajamas-

   10. JDJoe DeRosa16:25

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       ... and they didn't wanna go back to work.

   12. JDJoe DeRosa16:26

       Yeah. Yeah. There are guys out there that are like, "I love being a janitor. What do you want me to do?" (laughs) "I gotta go, I gotta go work somewhere." (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       It's just people saying they don't wanna go back to the office, that to me is a wild one. Like, yo, everyone always had to work in an office. There was a reason. You go there, that's work.

   14. JDJoe DeRosa16:43

       Mm-hmm. Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       When you're at home, you could just be staring at your phone, you could be jerking off. How many reporters got caught jerking off, like to Zoom calls? (laughs)

   16. JDJoe DeRosa16:51

       Insane. (laughs) Insane.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       You can't just leave people alone.

   18. JDJoe DeRosa16:54

       Insane.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:54

       They'll pretend they're doing as good a job. They're not. They gotta go to the office. That's why like the, all the people that are like super ambitious, like psycho Elon Musk type characters, you gotta go to the fucking office.

   20. JDJoe DeRosa17:06

       You know, dude, I... Yeah, and it's, it... I have mixed feelings about the office thing because I, I worked in offices at one point. I understand somebody saying, "Dude, it was soul deadening."

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:17

       Yeah. Oh, yeah.

   22. JDJoe DeRosa17:17

       "The overhead lights, the, the cu- the gray cubicles, whatever." Right?

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:20

       Oh, I get it.

   24. JDJoe DeRosa17:20

       So I get like, "I don't wanna be in that environment. It sucks." But now you see offices... I talk about this in my act a little bit. It's like now they make them fun. There's like ping pong tables and shit like that. I don't like that either. I think that creates the wrong vibe at work. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:34

       That's Severance.

   26. JDJoe DeRosa17:35

       Yes. (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:37

       Right?

   28. JDJoe DeRosa17:37

       Yeah, yeah.

   29. NANarrator17:37

       (laughs)

   30. JDJoe DeRosa17:39

       It should be just soul deadening enough that you feel like I must work-
6. 17:52 – 22:09

   Ad break + DeRosa’s surprising past: Texas Senate media reporter

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:52

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   2. JDJoe DeRosa19:02

      The last one I had was I worked for the Texas... The Senate in Texas. Uh, I worked f- for the (laughs) ... Your expression is so funny right now.

   3. JRJoe Rogan19:11

      I was waiting for you to finish. This is interesting.

   4. JDJoe DeRosa19:13

      Oh, okay. Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan19:13

      I didn't wanna-

   6. JDJoe DeRosa19:13

      You were, you-

   7. JRJoe Rogan19:14

      ... give it away.

   8. JDJoe DeRosa19:15

      Um, no, you uh, uh, I worked for the Texas Senate, uh, I worked for the Senate Media Department during the 76th legislative session or the 77th.

   9. JRJoe Rogan19:25

      No shit. What'd you do with them?

   10. JDJoe DeRosa19:27

       (clears throat) So I went to college, uh, for production, video and audio production. Um, and, uh, I got outta school, and at the time, I, I graduated in 2000, so it was right, right after that whole Tarantino, Robert Rodriguez indie film boom happened.

   11. JRJoe Rogan19:47

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JDJoe DeRosa19:48

       And I said, "That's what I wanna do. I wanna work in independent film. I, I'm gonna f- I wanna do that. I wanna write scripts, I wanna direct movies. Uh, I wanna create, like, in that space." So I said, "Well, I keep hearing about this Austin, Texas. Robert Rodriguez is from there." Um, who's the guy in Slacker? Um, the guy that did Slacker and Dazed and Confused and, uh...

   13. JRJoe Rogan20:12

       Linkletter? Richard Linkletter?

   14. JDJoe DeRosa20:12

       Yeah, Richard Linkletter, he was from here. And I'm like, "Well, those guys are doing stuff down there." And, you know, I had no fucking concept how any of it worked.

   15. JRJoe Rogan20:20

       Right.

   16. JDJoe DeRosa20:20

       So I move down here. I g- I met a few people that had the same interest. I was like, "Yeah, this is what I wanna do." Immediately, they were like, "Yeah, get in fucking line, buddy."

   17. JRJoe Rogan20:29

       Ugh.

   18. JDJoe DeRosa20:29

       "Good luck." Right? (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan20:32

       Jesus. (laughs)

   20. JDJoe DeRosa20:32

       Right? (laughs) So I got a job. Uh, I, for a little while I was working at, like, the PBS or whatever, the government TV station over here, whatever the hell it was.

   21. JRJoe Rogan20:41

       Mike Judge is out of here too. Don't forget that.

   22. JDJoe DeRosa20:43

       Oh, yeah, Mike Judge, yes.

   23. JRJoe Rogan20:44

       Yeah.

   24. JDJoe DeRosa20:45

       And I was working there and you're, you know, it was brutal. You're holding a camera for four hours in a studio as two people talk about, you know, uh, (laughs) fucking, I don't know, new county lines and shit. Your neck is burning. It was miserable. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan20:59

       (laughs)

   26. JDJoe DeRosa21:00

       So, so I saw in the paper, uh, an, an ad, back when you opened a newspaper to find a job, and it said, "Help wanted. Texas Senate Media Department. We need radi- a radio reporter."

   27. JRJoe Rogan21:13

       Oh.

   28. JDJoe DeRosa21:13

       I was like, "Well, shit, man. I'm already a performer," 'cause I play, I was playing music and stuff, and I already had an interest in comedy, and I was like, "But... And it's radio, so I know how to do production, whatever." So I applied, and I got the job, and the job was the Senate de- the Senate has its own media department, and, uh, I was one of the people they sent to the Senate floor every single day for the legislative hearings, and I had to take notes and do a radio show at the end of every day that surmised whatever happened that day, and then you'd upload it to a server, and then all these local radio stations in Texas would download it and play it as their news break. And that's what I did every day.

   29. JRJoe Rogan21:59

       Oh, my god.

   30. JDJoe DeRosa22:00

       And I sucked at it. (laughs)
7. 22:09 – 28:34

   Texas senators partying, Hunter Biden clips, and a deep dive on crack vs. cocaine

   1. JRJoe Rogan22:09

      Oh, my god. What are those people like?

   2. JDJoe DeRosa22:11

      Joe? Uh, well-

   3. JRJoe Rogan22:13

      They party a lot, huh?

   4. JDJoe DeRosa22:14

      Like motherfuckers.

   5. JRJoe Rogan22:16

      Ain't that crazy?

   6. JDJoe DeRosa22:17

      I've been hammered with Texas senators. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan22:21

      (laughs)

   8. JDJoe DeRosa22:21

      I don't-

   9. JRJoe Rogan22:21

      It's not just Texas.

   10. JDJoe DeRosa22:22

       Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan22:23

       It's, it's kinda all of them.

   12. JDJoe DeRosa22:24

       Yeah. But I, I don't mean drunk. I mean, like, hammered.

   13. JRJoe Rogan22:28

       Yeah.

   14. JDJoe DeRosa22:28

       These guys would have catfish fries and keg parties, and then-

   15. JRJoe Rogan22:31

       Somebody left cocaine in the White House, remember?

   16. JDJoe DeRosa22:34

       (laughs) Yes.

   17. JRJoe Rogan22:34

       Remember? Yeah, yeah. Somebody left fucking coke-

   18. JDJoe DeRosa22:37

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan22:37

       They brought coke to the White House.

   20. JDJoe DeRosa22:39

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan22:39

       How did you do that? How did you get in with coke?

   22. JDJoe DeRosa22:42

       Dude, I knew nothing-

   23. JRJoe Rogan22:43

       Bro, have you seen-

   24. JDJoe DeRosa22:43

       Oh, go ahead. Sorry.

   25. JRJoe Rogan22:44

       I'm sorry. Have you seen-

   26. JDJoe DeRosa22:45

       No, please.

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:45

       ... Hunter Biden describing why crack is so good? It's the greatest-

   28. JDJoe DeRosa22:50

       No.

   29. JRJoe Rogan22:50

       ... crack advertisement of all time.

   30. JDJoe DeRosa22:52

       No.
8. 28:34 – 32:50

   Malt liquor nostalgia and Rogan’s decision to quit regular drinking

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:34

      I had a buddy in, in New York that smoked crack, and he would have these giant crashes, and one of the things that he would have to do is he would have to go to, um, uh, a store, like a liquor store, and get a 40 ounce of malt liquor.

   2. JDJoe DeRosa28:47

      Okay.

   3. JRJoe Rogan28:47

      That was how he'd calm himself down from the crack. So like a lot of times I would pick him up. Um, I would even drop him off when he was buying the shit back then. And, um, then, um, when I'd get him, he'd, he'd just be like pale like cardboard, and had to drink malt liquor. It was like he was about to have a fucking heart attack.

   4. JDJoe DeRosa29:08

      But by the way, that's all it takes is one 40 ounce? I'm thinking you need to fucking mainline a bottle of Jack Daniels to, to even out.

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:17

      You would, you would get a couple of 40's.

   6. JDJoe DeRosa29:18

      Okay.

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:19

      But one 40 is really strong. Those are, those are, things are crazy strong. Like malt liquor ... Okay, it's kind of crazy that malt liquor is only in the hood.

   8. JDJoe DeRosa29:31

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan29:31

      Kind of crazy.

   10. JDJoe DeRosa29:32

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan29:32

       'Cause there's a lot of beer that tastes like shit. You know, it's not like malt liquor is like a fine Sam, Sam Adams ale.

   12. JDJoe DeRosa29:39

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan29:39

       You know? Malt liquor's got a, it's, it's just there to get you fucked up, and if it's cold, it's tolerable.

   14. JDJoe DeRosa29:44

       Yeah. Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan29:46

       Why is it way more popular in the hood?

   16. JDJoe DeRosa29:48

       Yeah, uh, it's, well, it's usually very ... 40's are usually very cheap.

   17. JRJoe Rogan29:51

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JDJoe DeRosa29:52

       It is malt liquor but it's cheap. We used to buy 40's when I was in college. That's all we drank 'cause it was cheap.

   19. JRJoe Rogan29:57

       Right.

   20. JDJoe DeRosa29:57

       We used to drink a 40 called Camo.

   21. JRJoe Rogan29:59

       (exhales)

   22. JDJoe DeRosa30:01

       The, the, the label was camouflage, the cheapest looking camouflage g- design ever, and it said camo in like the Army stamp. It was a $1.50 a 40, and it was 8.9% alcohol.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:13

       Oh my God. (laughs)

   24. JDJoe DeRosa30:14

       So college, it's perfect.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       That's so strong.

   26. JDJoe DeRosa30:15

       There it is, baby. (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       I remember Olde English. I remember Olde English, and, um, I remember, um ... God there was a bunch of 'em. There was a bunch of those, like, giant malt liquors that everybody... What were the big name ones? They were always in rap songs.

   28. JDJoe DeRosa30:32

       Oh dude, uh, O.E.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       Yeah.

   30. JDJoe DeRosa30:34

       Uh-
9. 32:50 – 45:37

   Austin comedy ‘anti-woke’ framing, the walled-garden effect, and building a healthy scene

   1. JDJoe DeRosa32:50

      But I saw a kid in the coffee shop today, I was waiting in line to, to, to order and the kid in front of me turned around and he's like, "Hey man, I love your comedy," whatever. He was a nice kid. And he goes, he goes, "Dude, are you sober too now?"

   2. JRJoe Rogan33:06

      (laughs)

   3. JDJoe DeRosa33:06

      "All you guys are getting sober." I was like, "No, no, no." (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan33:11

      (laughs) Oh, you guys. That's funny, they think like we act, we move as a group.

   5. JDJoe DeRosa33:14

      Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan33:15

      They're all, they're all Republicans now. (laughs)

   7. JDJoe DeRosa33:19

      There's, it's, the, the things I hear people apply to this comedy scene, I'm just like, what the fuck are you guys-

   8. JRJoe Rogan33:25

      It's so dumb. It's so dumb.

   9. JDJoe DeRosa33:26

      It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

   10. JRJoe Rogan33:27

       I read another article the other day about us being an anti-woke comedy scene.

   11. JDJoe DeRosa33:33

       Yeah, the thing about UCB coming in?

   12. JRJoe Rogan33:35

       Like look, why not just do great stuff? Go do great stuff. Don't worry about what we're doing. And we're not anti-woke.

   13. JDJoe DeRosa33:42

       It's-

   14. JRJoe Rogan33:43

       There's no anti-woke, there's, there's like a shit ton of left wing comics at the Mothership. It's like that's not, not what we're talking about.

   15. JDJoe DeRosa33:49

       Yeah. It's-

   16. JRJoe Rogan33:50

       We're not dwelling on that. We're making fun of things.

   17. JDJoe DeRosa33:53

       It, it, that article upset me because when I saw the headline, I was excited 'cause I used to do UCB shows in New York.

   18. JRJoe Rogan34:02

       I did them in LA.

   19. JDJoe DeRosa34:03

       Yeah. And I did them in LA too and I was like, "Oh cool, UCB's coming?" Like it'll be more stuff-

   20. JRJoe Rogan34:07

       That was always fun.

   21. JDJoe DeRosa34:08

       ... for the scene and stuff.

   22. JRJoe Rogan34:09

       The scenes, it's always better if there's more in the scene. But that's also, you gotta realize, like someone framing it in a way-

   23. JDJoe DeRosa34:14

       Yes.

   24. JRJoe Rogan34:14

       ... that's gonna get people to read it.

   25. JDJoe DeRosa34:15

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan34:16

       And then there's people that genuinely do think that way and it's j- what a lot of that is, I think, is the walled garden issue and the fact that there's like a walled garden. Right? And what is a walled garden? It's a bunch of people that are doing really well together and they're hanging out together and they have fun. And you're not in that group. You start getting mad at that and you find reasons why that's bad 'cause, you know, you want something like that in your life, which we all do. If I see like a whole group of friends, like palling around and laughing, I always smile because I know what that's like. I like it.

   27. JDJoe DeRosa34:46

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan34:46

       But if you never have that in your life and you see a group of people palling around and having a good time together and hugging each other, just laughing and just having a good old time, you feel like left out.

   29. JDJoe DeRosa34:56

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan34:56

       You feel like, you feel disrespected almost.
10. 45:37 – 53:38

    Sitcoms, NewsRadio nostalgia, and how multicam acting actually works

    1. JDJoe DeRosa45:37

       You know what's funny, dude? Uh, I was saying this to all the boys out in the, in the, uh, outside area here. Um, I go, "I gotta tell Joe this, 'cause I keep forgetting to tell him." 'Cause I k- and 'cause I always forget, "Oh, he was on that show." I f- I, you know ... News radio during COVID saved my fucking life, dude.

    2. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       (laughs)

    3. JDJoe DeRosa45:57

       (laughs) I swear to you.

    4. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       Did you just ... Did you binge it?

    5. JDJoe DeRosa46:00

       I was so ... I was living in an apartment that only-

    6. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       (clears throat)

    7. JDJoe DeRosa46:03

       ... had windows in the bedroom, so I had no light in my apartment.

    8. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       Oh, no.

    9. JDJoe DeRosa46:08

       It was a tenement building. The hallway, I was telling the guys outside, I was like, "The hallway-"

    10. JRJoe Rogan46:11

        You were trapped in a place with no light at all?

    11. JDJoe DeRosa46:14

        Yeah. The hallway in this building was ... The hallway looked like the alley behind the Wuhan lab.

    12. JRJoe Rogan46:19

        (laughs)

    13. JDJoe DeRosa46:19

        I was like, I was like, "I'm gonna get COVID from the fucking railing."

    14. JRJoe Rogan46:23

        (laughs)

    15. JDJoe DeRosa46:23

        It w- (laughs) I was like ... (laughs) It was so gross. E- everybody was so freaked out. Nobody knew what was going on, like, in the beginning. And, um, and, uh, I was like, "Dude, I'm trapped. I, I, I'm alone." Like, "This is the worst thing ever." And my buddy Pat Walsh, who I do my We'll See You In Hell podcast with, he said, "Listen, man, have you seen News Radio?" And I said, "No, I've never seen it. I d- I missed it when it was on." And he goes, "Look, Amazon's got the whole series right now for 20 bucks. Just buy it and watch it." And I bought it, and I watched it. And you, fucking Dave Foley, the best, uh, uh, Phil Hartman. I was just like-

    16. JRJoe Rogan47:02

        Steve Root, Andy Dick.

    17. JDJoe DeRosa47:03

        Steve ... Oh my God.

    18. JRJoe Rogan47:04

        Vicki Lewis.

    19. JDJoe DeRosa47:05

        It just-

    20. JRJoe Rogan47:05

        Candy Alexander, Maura Tierney.

    21. JDJoe DeRosa47:08

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan47:08

        Yeah.

    23. JDJoe DeRosa47:08

        I t-

    24. JRJoe Rogan47:08

        It was a great cast.

    25. JDJoe DeRosa47:09

        It just took me ... 'Cause it was so fun, it was so silly. It was classic. It r- it re- it reminded me of a better time 'cause it was a little bit older, 'cause it was from the '90s.

    26. JRJoe Rogan47:20

        It was innocent. Yeah. Almo- almost innocent.

    27. JDJoe DeRosa47:22

        Oh my God.

    28. JRJoe Rogan47:22

        That style of comedy.

    29. JDJoe DeRosa47:25

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan47:25

        It's so silly. It's like a ... It's f- it's a fun thing to do. And th- th- to be able to do it that way, like with those people, they were all so fucking good, you know? And I didn't kno- I had fucking zero acting experience. I did a couple of episodes of that Hardball show. It was terrible, like I said. I wasn't good on it either. (laughs)
11. 53:38 – 1:09:38

    New York vs. LA: integration, city energy, dive bars, and vanishing old-world grit

    1. JDJoe DeRosa53:38

       I think a city... That was always one of my big gripes with, with life in LA or, or more specifically Hollywood. I think a city where you have to drive to get to the bar, you, you, you got a problem. Because nobody's able to just go out the front door, go down the street, and just have some fun.

    2. JRJoe Rogan53:58

       Right.

    3. JDJoe DeRosa53:58

       Everything is, it's gotta be planned, it's gotta be this, it's gotta be that.

    4. JRJoe Rogan54:01

       Hard to park.

    5. JDJoe DeRosa54:02

       Yeah. So nobody cuts loose.

    6. JRJoe Rogan54:03

       Also, you're always in your car, so you're always isolated from other people-

    7. JDJoe DeRosa54:07

       Yes.

    8. JRJoe Rogan54:07

       ... until you integrate, and then you're back to my isolation. And in New York, you're ha- you have to integrate. Like, you just, you get on the subway, you walk down the street, everybody's there with everybody.

    9. JDJoe DeRosa54:16

       Yep. Dude-

    10. JRJoe Rogan54:17

        There's something to be said for that.

    11. JDJoe DeRosa54:18

        There is. I always, when I lived in LA, I said, "The reason I don't like LA..." I always said, "The ultimate goal of people in LA is isolation. The ultimate goal of people in New York is integration." In LA, the big dream is what? Let me get the-

    12. JRJoe Rogan54:31

        Mansion.

    13. JDJoe DeRosa54:31

        Yeah, the house way up in these hills, and there's-

    14. JRJoe Rogan54:34

        Big old gate with dogs and fucking dudes on-

    15. JDJoe DeRosa54:36

        Yeah. Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan54:37

        ... sniper posts.

    17. JDJoe DeRosa54:38

        Yeah, yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan54:39

        (laughs)

    19. JDJoe DeRosa54:39

        Guys being like, "I got an eye scanner on my house."

    20. JRJoe Rogan54:41

        Dudes with turrets-

    21. JDJoe DeRosa54:42

        You know?

    22. JRJoe Rogan54:42

        ... with machine guns.

    23. JDJoe DeRosa54:43

        Yeah. Yeah, it's, uh, you know, and, and the only peop- and then they have these parties in LA where they hire a staff to create the environment of a bar in their home. So, now they've creat-

    24. JRJoe Rogan54:55

        Yeah.

    25. JDJoe DeRosa54:55

        There's like catering waiters-

    26. JRJoe Rogan54:57

        Yep.

    27. JDJoe DeRosa54:57

        ... walking around and shit. And you're like, "Guys, I'm just trying to play beer pong and, like, get fucked up. Like, what is this?"

    28. JRJoe Rogan55:02

        It's so weird.

    29. JDJoe DeRosa55:03

        Right.

    30. JRJoe Rogan55:03

        It's so weird.
12. 1:09:38 – 1:15:01

    Restaurants, rats, and why big cities can’t (or won’t) fix infestations

    1. JDJoe DeRosa1:09:38

       Bay Cities.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:09:39

       BC Deli.

    3. JDJoe DeRosa1:09:40

       Something just happened where they, they shutdown for a while.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:09:42

       That's in LA?

    5. NANarrator1:09:43

       Mm-hmm.

    6. JDJoe DeRosa1:09:44

       Yeah.

    7. NANarrator1:09:44

       A lot of times, yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:09:45

       And they got in trouble for something?

    9. JDJoe DeRosa1:09:46

       I don't know if they got in trouble.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:09:47

        For being too good?

    11. JDJoe DeRosa1:09:47

        I wanna make sure I'm not speaking outta, outta school here. Sh- yeah, Health Department, yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:09:51

        Shutdown for what?

    13. JDJoe DeRosa1:09:52

        I think they were pretty v- oh, it says the word vermin. That's never good.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:09:56

        Oh, that's not good. They got hit with rats?

    15. JDJoe DeRosa1:10:00

        God, that's a-

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:10:00

        See, everybody hates the coyotes in LA.

    17. JDJoe DeRosa1:10:03

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:10:03

        But if you don't have coyotes, you have rats.

    19. JDJoe DeRosa1:10:05

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:10:05

        You have a lot more rats than you do have, like-

    21. JDJoe DeRosa1:10:07

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:10:07

        ... you need them to keep the ... You guys are fucked up.

    23. NANarrator1:10:10

        Temporary.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:10:10

        What's that?

    25. NANarrator1:10:10

        Temporary closure, working to reopen.

    26. JDJoe DeRosa1:10:12

        Okay.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:10:12

        Oh, they gotta kill all the rats.

    28. JDJoe DeRosa1:10:13

        I hope they fix it. I'll tell ya, that's the thing I never expected in New York.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:10:17

        Rats?

    30. JDJoe DeRosa1:10:18

        Y- yeah, it's like you open a food place in New York, y- you open anything in New York, rats is on your checklist-

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