Joe Rogan Experience #2359 - Mike Maxwell

1. 0:00 – 15:00

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   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hey, Mike Maxwell.

   3. MMMike Maxwell0:14

      What's happening, Joe Rogan?

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      My man, good to see you. Um-

   5. MMMike Maxwell0:16

      It's good to be here.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      For anybody who doesn't know, Mike Maxwell is an amazing artist, and did not just that painting with Quentin Tarantino in front of it, which is pretty fucking cool, but also the JRE logo.

   7. MMMike Maxwell0:27

      Yeah. A minute ago.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      The infamous logo. (laughs) Geez.

   9. MMMike Maxwell0:29

      Yeah. So funny.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       That was like how many years ago was that? Like 15 fucking years ago?

   11. MMMike Maxwell0:33

       Yeah. It has to be. I think you were, like, on episode 10 maybe.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Wow.

   13. MMMike Maxwell0:36

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       That's crazy.

   15. MMMike Maxwell0:38

       Yeah, and super fucking random too. Like, I get the question all the time, like, "How the fuck did you do that?" You know.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       (laughs)

   17. MMMike Maxwell0:45

       And for me, like, my whole, like, art experience has just been, like, make the work, and whatever the fuck happens afterwards is just all bonus, you know.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Well, if the work is great, that works, you know. It's like-

   19. MMMike Maxwell0:59

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       ... you kind of have to be discovered. Someone has to find you. But yet, ultimately, it's about talent.

   21. MMMike Maxwell1:06

       Yeah. And, and, you know, hard work too.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       Yes.

   23. MMMike Maxwell1:10

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   25. MMMike Maxwell1:11

       I mean, 'cause that talent really doesn't co-... Like, artists so often are like, people are like, "Oh, I, like, I wish I could draw. Like, you're so lucky, like, God-given talent." I'm like, "Bitch, I had to fucking... I work every day, and have been grinding at this for 25, 26 years."

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       There's, there's no God-given talent with art. There's some people have an openness or maybe an ability to see things differently than others, but when it comes to the actual technique-

   27. MMMike Maxwell1:40

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       ... and developing that fine hand-eye coordination-

   29. MMMike Maxwell1:44

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:44

       ... and the, the ability to draw exact, or paint exactly what you're looking for-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah, "Let me just…

   1. MMMike Maxwell15:00

      like, "Well, I got five miles in me."

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      Yeah, "Let me just keep-"

   3. MMMike Maxwell15:03

      "Shit, I need 10."

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      ... "Let me just keep running until this deer stops running." Like, how would you ever think that y-... A deer, you would eventually catch it, right?

   5. MMMike Maxwell15:11

      Yeah, especially if they're so fucking fast.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      They're so fucking fast. Like, how would you think that one day that antelope is gonna get tired? Like, how would you even have that in your head?

   7. MMMike Maxwell15:20

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:20

      That it couldn't just take a break? It's gonna be 300 yards ahead of you like that.

   9. MMMike Maxwell15:23

      I love those thoughts.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       Just take a break, catch its breath. They didn't even know that... It's... The issue is the animals don't have sweat glands, so they overheat.

   11. MMMike Maxwell15:32

       Shit.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       Yeah. So, we have sweat glands.

   13. MMMike Maxwell15:34

       And, of course, they weren't biologists, so they also-

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       Exactly.

   15. MMMike Maxwell15:37

       ... didn't know that either.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Well, that's why we're so weird. We're such a weird animal in that our bodies really can kind of adapt to different climates, and they self-cool and regulate. Like, some animals, if they're outside of their climate range, they're fucked.

   17. MMMike Maxwell15:50

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       Like, they're in deep shit.

   19. MMMike Maxwell15:52

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       You know? Like, uh, Marshall over here. Where are you, buddy?

   21. GUGuest15:56

       On the other side, other side.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       Oh. Oh, he's right here. He's right beside me. Um, we have to... You know, if we're gonna exercise in Texas, we have to do it in the morning.

   23. MMMike Maxwell16:04

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       Or we have to jump in the pool 'cause, you know, his body's adapted for cold. He's got this crazy wool coat that he wears-

   25. MMMike Maxwell16:11

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       ... everywhere he goes.

   27. MMMike Maxwell16:12

       Yeah, yeah. (laughs) Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       It sucks. But for us, man, we can... We sweat, and they figured out, I guess, a long time ago that these animals, if you just keep running after 'em, eventually they just can't do it anymore, and then they lay down, and then you fucking stab 'em.

   29. MMMike Maxwell16:28

       Yeah. That's so fucking wild.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:30

       But it, it made insane runners.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   But also, like, this…

   1. MMMike Maxwell30:00

      and he, uh, immediately looked at me like, "Okay, yeah, I hear what you're saying and I'm gonna let go."

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      But also, like, this could be the difference between nothing happens to you, you're just defending yourself-

   3. MMMike Maxwell30:07

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      ... and you're going to jail-

   5. MMMike Maxwell30:09

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      ... for a long time-

   7. MMMike Maxwell30:10

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      ... 'cause this guy's dead.

   9. MMMike Maxwell30:11

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:12

       Yeah. Especially if the guy's out, you're still holding onto it.

   11. MMMike Maxwell30:15

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:16

       Ooh.

   13. MMMike Maxwell30:16

       Yeah. And it was quick. It was tight. He- he might not have known he was out, but I mean-

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       But I'm s- He was probably so jumped up with adrenaline and chaos.

   15. MMMike Maxwell30:22

       Yeah. He like, had his girlfriend with him and...

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       Yeah. Th- Dude, street fights are stupid. They're-

   17. MMMike Maxwell30:27

       So dumb.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       And if I see them, I just get the fuck away. But what just weird that I'm j- I- I've seen so many people beat people up.

   19. MMMike Maxwell30:34

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:35

       I have seen, like firsthand, there's probably a tiny percentage of people on Earth that have seen more fistfights in person than me.

   21. MMMike Maxwell30:45

       Yeah. I- I can't ima- Especially at that close range.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       At close range with world-class fighters.

   23. MMMike Maxwell30:50

       'Cause it's a- When you're in at a UFC event, like those fights feel so much more intense and so much more like-

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       Dude, you gotta come with me.

   25. MMMike Maxwell30:58

       ... visceral when you're there.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       You gotta come with me to the Apex. The Apex is the place to see fights.

   27. MMMike Maxwell31:04

       Yeah?

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       The Apex Center is the UFC's private little auditorium. It's tiny. It only seats like 100 people.

   29. MMMike Maxwell31:11

       Is that where they were doing the fights during COVID?

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       Yes.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Oh, yeah. …

   1. MMMike Maxwell45:00

      used to have to go hunt.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      Oh, yeah.

   3. MMMike Maxwell45:02

      To, to get something to eat. So this idea-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      Mm-hmm.

   5. MMMike Maxwell45:04

      ... of, like, waiting, you know, eight hours, six hours before eating anything from waking up, like, it all, it, uh, started to feel natural for me.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      Well, it is natural as long as you're eating natural food.

   7. MMMike Maxwell45:17

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      That's the thing.

   9. MMMike Maxwell45:18

      Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:18

       So if you're eating processed foods and a lot of bread and a lot of pasta and a lot of stuff that human beings have made, especially, like, our American bread, your, your body's accustomed to a lot of sugar. Your body's accustomed to those complex carbohydrates just pouring into your system-

   11. MMMike Maxwell45:35

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       ... all day long, and you're using those as a fuel source. If you are s- subsisting off of fat and protein and meat and, like, avocados, and you're getting healthy food, your body is working off a lot of ketones. Your body is y- it's making its own glucose through gluconeogenesis from the meat, and it's also running off of ketones from the fat. It's a way more efficient way of doing it. And when you do that, you don't get nearly as hungry. It's n- you don't have that feeling, that awful feeling. When, uh, I was eating a lot of carbs and if I would go, like, four or five hours without eating, I would starting getting fucking famished.

   13. MMMike Maxwell46:14

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       You don't get famished when you eat only meat. It, it stops. The ... You get hungry, but it's totally manageable.

   15. MMMike Maxwell46:23

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:23

       Just that alone, I love. The, the, the, the f- the not requiring food. Like, I can go ... Sometimes I'll ... I won't eat breakfast. Sometimes I'll work out, I won't eat breakfast, I'll come here, I'll be here all day, and the first meal I have is dinner.

   17. MMMike Maxwell46:40

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:40

       And I'm fine.

   19. MMMike Maxwell46:41

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       I'm literally fine. Like, it's not bothering me. And it's only because my body's adapted to not eat processed shit.

   21. MMMike Maxwell46:49

       Yeah, 'cause it's different if you feel like you're gonna throw up or pass out because you haven't fucking eaten in six hours.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:53

       That's people that eat a lot of fucking glucose.

   23. MMMike Maxwell46:56

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:56

       People that are eating a lot of carbohydrates, a lot of bullshit.

   25. MMMike Maxwell46:59

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       Your, your body needs fuel. You get low blood sugar and you start feeling like shit.

   27. MMMike Maxwell47:04

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:04

       And, like, you gotta get something in you.

   29. MMMike Maxwell47:06

       Well, I noticed as soon as I started doing that, like, the stored fat, like, in my, like, little love handles or whatever, like, immediately just ... It was like the body's like, "Okay, I gotta use this shit now."

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:16

       Yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:10:46

   Tony was there. It's,…

   1. MMMike Maxwell1:00:00

      so funny.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Tony was there. It's, so we have this beautiful community, but it's also, like, the young people, the young people coming up, they're good, man.

   3. MMMike Maxwell1:00:07

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      They're good and they're hungry and they're focused and they realize that there's a real pathway. So, 'cause w- we set it up so we have two nights of open mic nights, which is really important.

   5. MMMike Maxwell1:00:16

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      Like, you have to have chances for people to get on stage for the first time, and, and just chances to just develop.

   7. MMMike Maxwell1:00:22

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      You just got a few minutes, you go up there, you tell a couple of jokes, try it again next week, try it down the street, try it over here, try it over there. And if you wanna do it, if you really wanna do it, there's a bunch of people that are also doing it here, so there's, like, a great community. And it's pretty fucking positive, man.

   9. MMMike Maxwell1:00:36

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       Everybody's pretty... Instead of being cutthroat and backstabby, everybody's real supportive. They're like, "Hey..."

   11. MMMike Maxwell1:00:42

       Big difference from LA, right?

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:43

       Big difference.

   13. MMMike Maxwell1:00:44

       Like, I, I noticed just the, sort of, like, every interaction I had while I was here for just three days just felt so genuine.... like, not like somebody's trying to get something from you, or-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       They're regular folks out here.

   15. MMMike Maxwell1:00:55

       ... everybody just seemed, like-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Yeah.

   17. MMMike Maxwell1:00:57

       ... so laid back and chill. And like-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       They're, they're-

   19. MMMike Maxwell1:01:00

       ... still focused.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       ... regular humans.

   21. MMMike Maxwell1:01:02

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       What we were dealing with in Los Angeles was some amazing people. I mean-

   23. MMMike Maxwell1:01:08

       Sure, certainly.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:08

       ... there's a lot of amazing people in LA, but the overall vibe of the city was a vibe of you were trying to stand out from everybody else-

   25. MMMike Maxwell1:01:18

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:18

       ... and get famous.

   27. MMMike Maxwell1:01:19

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       You could-

   29. MMMike Maxwell1:01:21

       You could feel it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:21

       You could feel it. Yeah. You could feel it.

Episode duration: 2:30:48