Joe Rogan Experience #2362 - Ralph Barbosa

Joe Rogan 0:01 (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Ralph Barbosa 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) What's up, y'all?

Joe Rogan 0:13 So, let's go. What are you doing? Are we playing with magnets?

Ralph Barbosa 0:17 Yeah, man. I'm checking out all your toys. What'd you say this guy's name is? Travis?

Joe Rogan 0:20 That's Travis Walton.

Ralph Barbosa 0:22 Travis.

Joe Rogan 0:22 And he's, he's a guy that got abducted, allegedly, by, uh, some sort of a UFO in the 1970s, and, uh, the story was so crazy that it became a movie. It's called Fire In The Sky. And I don't know, like I said, I don't know if he's telling the truth, but it's very compelling. He doesn't seem like a liar, and he's been telling the exact same story for 40-plus years.

Ralph Barbosa 0:46 I think he's telling the truth.

Joe Rogan 0:47 You think so?

Ralph Barbosa 0:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:49 Yeah?

Ralph Barbosa 0:49 Yeah. I don't know. I don't know anybody, uh, per- I mean, personally, I don't know anybody who's kept up a lie for that long.

Joe Rogan 0:55 (clicks tongue) There's gotta be someone. Gotta be someone that's like... I, I think people can make a story up and then only keep that s- that lie. Usually, generally, when people lie about stuff, they'll lie about a bunch of stuff, especially something that crazy. "They took me aboard a UFO and they fixed me." So this is the story. The story was... These guys were all loggers in Arizona, and so they're driving down this logging road and they see some crazy light in the sky and it goes into this area. They pull off to the side of the road. They walk towards it and there's this disc that's, like, hovering, this glowing disc. He walks towards it and he got really close to it and he got hit with a beam of light, and he falls back. Like, that's- The art. ... supposedly what it looked like. That's the art of it. That's the art, the art depiction of it, what these guys saw. He gets hit with this beam of light and they take off. They're like, "Fuck!" And they did jump back in the truck and take off. He's lying on the ground, and they get, like, five minutes away and they're yelling at each other. "We gotta go back. We gotta go get him." They were scared. And so they're like, "Fuck it. Let's go back." So they go back to go get their friend and he's gone. So, five days later, there's, you know, there's a manhunt for him. Nobody can find him. Five days later, he shows up, walks into town. He's fully... It doesn't look like he's starving to death. He's not out of water. Doesn't look like he's been living in the woods. It just looks like he, uh, just, like, a normal day and he tells this crazy story. He tells this story that he got abducted. They took him aboard this craft and fixed his body 'cause the beam of light that came out of the ship from w- whatever, whatever it was, whatever energy source it was, fucked his body up. They repaired it and they communicated with him telepathically while they were on the ship. I forget all the details of it, but-

Ralph Barbosa 2:46 Yo, but-

Joe Rogan 2:47 ... this is, this is the film of it. But this is supposedly what he said the experience was like. He said it was terrifying. And he described... The thing that, that's crazy is that they all describe the same exact creatures. They describe these little-

Ralph Barbosa 3:04 Who is they?

Joe Rogan 3:05 People that get abducted.

Ralph Barbosa 3:06 Oh.

Joe Rogan 3:06 People that have had UFO experiences, anybody that's had direct contact. Did you ever see that movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind?

Ralph Barbosa 3:13 Mm-mm. I saw that movie The Fourth Kind when I was in middle school.

Joe Rogan 3:17 What's that one? Is that an abduction one-

Ralph Barbosa 3:18 Where they, I think-

Joe Rogan 3:19 ... where they come get ya?

Ralph Barbosa 3:20 Yeah, it's like a... Man, I only watched it once. It scared the shit outta me. I think people go under, like, hypnosis and they re- they remember what their abduction was like or something like that.

Joe Rogan 3:30 Hmm. Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 3:32 Yeah. Don't quote me on that.

Joe Rogan 3:33 Well, the third kind, I think, is contact. I think close encounters of the first kind is, like, you see it. I don't know what the second kind is. This is, like, a list of the kinds. "The Fourth Kind derived, explains J. Allen Hynek's classification of close encounters with aliens. The Fourth Kind denotes alien abductions." Dun-dun-dun.

Ralph Barbosa 3:52 Yeah, yeah, that one.

Joe Rogan 3:54 I feel like-

Ralph Barbosa 3:54 I like how we talk about aliens like it's, like, feeling on a girl, like second base.

Joe Rogan 3:58 (laughs) First taste.

Ralph Barbosa 3:59 Like, yo, did you get to the fourth kind?

Joe Rogan 4:00 Get to fourth base. She takes you home. Yeah. It's-

Ralph Barbosa 4:04 Nah, but his, his friends, they, they're... Like, his friends that left them, that left him.

Joe Rogan 4:11 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 4:12 I mean, they saw it.

Joe Rogan 4:13 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 4:14 So how s-

Joe Rogan 4:14 They all have the same story.

Ralph Barbosa 4:16 Has to be real. I don't think you're gonna convince these guys.

Joe Rogan 4:19 Probably not, but maybe you could. It's like, it's not impossible. It's not like they... It's like breathing underwater. That's impossible, right? Okay. Flapping your wings at the top of a cliff, you fly away. That's impossible. Keeping a lie is possible. It's not likely. It doesn't make sense. Doesn't make sense why they... One of the reasons why it doesn't make sense is Travis and one of the guys in the truck had gotten into a fistfight that same day. Like, they didn't like each other. They hate each other. They're workers. They're just coworkers. You know, logging is hard fucking work, man. You're, you're cutting trees and carrying trees and it's back-breaking, brutal labor, and you get hard men. H- loggers are bad motherfuckers, man. My friend Evan, his whole family is from loggers. Um, and they're just... He's like, "They are the hardest fucking people you've ever met in your life." Just hard men. Like, d- d- doing this shit deep into their 60s and 70s, carrying logs. Just, just a different breed of human being. So, uh, they fucking didn't get along and they got in a fistfight that day.

Ralph Barbosa 5:24 So why lie for him?

Joe Rogan 5:25 And that... Why would you lie for him?

Ralph Barbosa 5:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:26 Exactly. Why would you lie for him?

Ralph Barbosa 5:27 Yeah. These are hardworking men, Joe Rogan. They don't need to lie.

Joe Rogan 5:30 They're savages.

Ralph Barbosa 5:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:32 Th- This is-

Ralph Barbosa 5:32 Hey, did his friends get any money from that movie?

Joe Rogan 5:34 What friends?

Ralph Barbosa 5:35 His friends that left him.

Joe Rogan 5:36 His friends?

Ralph Barbosa 5:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:37 That's a good question. It's a good question, right? 'Cause then it would, there'd be a reason to lie.

Ralph Barbosa 5:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:42 But the movie was a long time after the actual event. What year was the movie, Jamie?

Narrator 5:46 '93.

Joe Rogan 5:47 '93.

Ralph Barbosa 5:48 And this happened when?

Joe Rogan 5:49 In the '70s.

Ralph Barbosa 5:49 In the '70s?

Joe Rogan 5:50 Yeah, there's no way. Like, "Bro, any day now you're getting paid."

Ralph Barbosa 5:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:54 (laughs) I got DB Cooper li- later. Who, who was the guy that was the, uh, the actor?

Narrator 6:00 Uh-

Ralph Barbosa 6:02 DB Sweeney?

Joe Rogan 6:03 DB Sweeney. That's right. DB Cooper was the guy that stole the money and jumped out-

Ralph Barbosa 6:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:06 ... the plane.

Ralph Barbosa 6:07 DB Cooper?

Joe Rogan 6:07 That's how I get them confused. Yeah. You never heard that story?

Ralph Barbosa 6:10 He's... Was he the guy wanted by the FBI?

Joe Rogan 6:11 Yes. Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 6:12 He's, like, a top 10 wanted or something like that?

Joe Rogan 6:14 Yeah. Yeah. He stole a bunch of money, and then hijacked an airplane, and then jumped out of the airplane with the money.

Ralph Barbosa 6:20 And he, he died? Like, they found the body and everything?

Joe Rogan 6:23 Probably.

Ralph Barbosa 6:23 Or he... (laughs) Or was it, like, a mysterious, like-

Joe Rogan 6:25 It's a mysterious thing.

Ralph Barbosa 6:26 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 6:26 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 6:27 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 6:28 You never heard that story?

Ralph Barbosa 6:28 Nah.

Joe Rogan 6:29 It's an interesting story. But the area the guy skydived into was heavily wooded. And the problem with that is, if you're a skydiver and you're in a parachute, and you, you go into a heavily wooded place, you're gonna land in the trees.

Ralph Barbosa 6:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:43 And-

Ralph Barbosa 6:43 And then you risk, like-

Joe Rogan 6:44 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 6:45 ... r- getting-

Joe Rogan 6:46 Well, just cutting yourself-

Ralph Barbosa 6:47 ... impaled.

Joe Rogan 6:47 ... loose, also. Cutting yourself loose out of the trees. What if you're 30 feet up? How are you getting down?

Ralph Barbosa 6:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:54 What if you fall getting down? People go missing in the woods all the time, and no one finds them, ever. You don't find nothing.

Ralph Barbosa 7:02 What?

Joe Rogan 7:03 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 7:03 Why don't we hear about this more often?

Joe Rogan 7:05 Well, you do if you pay attention. But-

Ralph Barbosa 7:07 I don't pay attention.

Joe Rogan 7:08 (laughs) It's... Uh, you know, there's only-

Ralph Barbosa 7:10 I'm watching news.

Joe Rogan 7:10 ... so many things you can think about.

Ralph Barbosa 7:11 There was a recent update on the Cooper story, but this is just the brief for those who never have heard of it.

Joe Rogan 7:17 Okay. "DB Cooper is the moniker given to the skyjacker, a dapper, dark-haired man apparently in his mid-40s who called himself Dan Cooper. The mystery man passed a flight attendant a note while on a Northwest Orient Air flig- Airlines flight in Portland, Oregon, bound for Seattle, November 24th, 1971. The note contained- claimed, rather, that he had a bomb in his briefcase, which he opened to show a large tangle of wires and red sticks. When the Boeing aircraft landed in Seattle, the man, who became known as DB Cooper, freed 36 passengers in exchange for a mountain of cash and four parachutes. The plane took off with several crew members aboard, bound for Mexico City on his orders." Wow, so he just made them fly him somewhere with a briefcase with a bomb in it.

Ralph Barbosa 8:02 And they were listening to him.

Joe Rogan 8:04 "So, at an altitude of 10,000 feet above Seattle and Reno, he jumped from the back of the jetliner with a parachute and the ransom money, vanishing into history. The case remains unsolved despite the manhunt- a manhunt, the FBI tenaciously interviewing hundreds of people in a cottage industry of crew- true crime broughs- buffs pouring through the evidence."

Ralph Barbosa 8:23 Nah, the dude got away.

Joe Rogan 8:24 (sighs) .

Ralph Barbosa 8:25 There's no, there's no way that, like, he thought all of this out, and then was like, "Ah, once I get in the air, I'll just wing it." Like, the man knew he was gonna jump over those woods. He knew that the minute he landed in Mexico, they'd, they'd have some sort of, like, Dog Day Afternoon.

Joe Rogan 8:40 Right, but he wasn't in Mexico. He, he jumped outside of Portland, right?

Ralph Barbosa 8:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:45 He was in the Pacific Northwest and he jumped, right?

Ralph Barbosa 8:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:47 So he-

Ralph Barbosa 8:47 Like, they just took off, and then, like, 20 minutes in, he's like, "All right, I'm out."

Joe Rogan 8:51 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 8:51 That's the biggest curveball to throw them. He... 'Cause they're gonna... Their plan is to-

Joe Rogan 8:56 Go to Mexico.

Ralph Barbosa 8:56 ... go to Mexico.

Joe Rogan 8:57 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 8:58 Right? He thinks he's gonna land safely, and then they're gonna figure out a way to...

Joe Rogan 9:01 Yeah, but the thing is, have you ever been in the Pacific Northwest? You ever been in the woods up there?

Ralph Barbosa 9:06 Not in the woods, but I've been... I've seen 'em from the highway.

Joe Rogan 9:09 (laughs) Well, you see-

Ralph Barbosa 9:10 Tall-ass trees.

Joe Rogan 9:10 Okay, yeah, tall-ass trees. And real dense, like this. Like, like, like a box of Q-tips. That's how I always describe the trees up there. Like, they're really close to each other. There's not a lot of open space up there at all.

Ralph Barbosa 9:21 Ah.

Joe Rogan 9:21 It's all just trees. So if you're landing into that mess, you're not gonna find a spot to land. And then here's the other problem: if you do find a spot to land, where are you? Do you know where you are? Do you know how to get out of there?

Ralph Barbosa 9:34 I think that dude-

Joe Rogan 9:35 You could walk for days in any direction and not find shit.

Ralph Barbosa 9:38 Nah, I think he planned that part.

Joe Rogan 9:40 I don't think he did. I bet he was on meth.

Ralph Barbosa 9:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:43 For real. I bet-

Ralph Barbosa 9:43 Probably. Aight, that sounds more like it.

Joe Rogan 9:45 I bet he was...

Ralph Barbosa 9:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:45 That's a meth move. The whole thing's a meth move. "I'm gonna get a fucking bomb, I'm gonna get on the plane, I'm gonna tell 'em, 'I got a fucking bomb, I want some money, and I want some fucking parachutes, and I'm gonna get the money, and then I'm just gonna parachute to safety.'"

Ralph Barbosa 9:55 Maybe.

Joe Rogan 9:55 It sounds like a terrible idea.

Ralph Barbosa 9:56 You think so?

Joe Rogan 9:57 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 9:57 I mean, I think it... For, for a second there, i- i- it can... Like, if the guy was sober, I think he's a genius.

Joe Rogan 10:05 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 10:05 I think he's a sober genius.

Joe Rogan 10:08 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 10:08 You think he's just so method. I think-

Joe Rogan 10:09 Yeah, I think he's a method.

Ralph Barbosa 10:10 I think he studied the woods for, like, months.

Joe Rogan 10:13 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 10:14 (laughs) And was like...

Joe Rogan 10:14 No way. Because how you gonna know? You're going 10,000 feet above the Earth, you're going 500 miles an hour, and you're gonna jump. So, I want you to imagine that. So here is this... Shh, you're going 500 miles an hour, and then you jump. Where are you gonna land? You're going 500 miles an hour, you have to fall 10,000 feet. Where the fuck are you gonna land? You have no idea where you're gonna land.

Ralph Barbosa 10:38 You should, you should make tests. Like, you should be in charge of creating the SATs.

Joe Rogan 10:42 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 10:43 It's like, "Question number A, 'Where the fuck are you gonna land?'"

Joe Rogan 10:45 Well, here's the thing. Back then, there was no GPS. Okay?

Ralph Barbosa 10:50 The GPS.

Joe Rogan 10:50 So back then, all you had is a compass. So y- even if you have a map, like, how big is your map? Like, back then-

Ralph Barbosa 10:56 People, people were smarter back then, though.

Joe Rogan 10:57 No, they weren't. Trust me. I used to live back then.

Ralph Barbosa 10:59 You l-

Joe Rogan 10:59 They were dumb as shit.

Ralph Barbosa 11:00 I feel like people had to, like... At the- I feel, I feel like the further back you go in time, maybe not too far back, right? But I feel like '70s, '60s, '50s, '40s, like, people were forced to, like, learn maps, learn their directions-

Joe Rogan 11:18 That's true.

Ralph Barbosa 11:18 ... learn how to utilize a compass. Like, people-

Joe Rogan 11:21 It's-

Ralph Barbosa 11:21 ... were better on, on their feet. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 11:23 That's true. They definitely knew more phone numbers. They definitely knew how to get around more without any sort of GPS. Ev- I'm addicted to GPS. That shit runs my life. When I... If I wanna go somewhere, I just always put it in my phone.

Ralph Barbosa 11:35 Yeah, 'cause it gives you-

Joe Rogan 11:35 I never learn.

Ralph Barbosa 11:35 ... like, traffic updates.

Joe Rogan 11:36 That, too. Yeah, that's huge. Oh, detour? Fuck you people.

Ralph Barbosa 11:40 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:41 Ha ha. And you feel happy. "Look, I got around that traffic."

Ralph Barbosa 11:43 Back in the day, you just had to, like, memorize routes-

Joe Rogan 11:46 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 11:46 ... memorize which routes were busy at which times.

Joe Rogan 11:49 And you had to listen to AM radio for the traffic update. "The traffic update, brought to you by Costco."

Ralph Barbosa 11:55 Hey, who's that one guy that comes on? I don't know if he still does. He, like... What's the story with him? He got, like, really rich, and he gives people financial advice. Is it Ramsey?

Joe Rogan 12:06 ... Dave Ramsey?

Ralph Barbosa 12:07 Dave Ramsey?

Joe Rogan 12:08 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 12:08 Do you know him?

Joe Rogan 12:09 No.

Ralph Barbosa 12:09 Oh, I thought you knew him.

Joe Rogan 12:11 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 12:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:13 Back to D.B. Cooper.

Ralph Barbosa 12:15 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:15 I think that dude was on meth. I think that's a total meth head plan.

Ralph Barbosa 12:19 Aight, maybe.

Joe Rogan 12:20 "I got a fucking bomb." He's got a bunch of red sticks with wires. Like, (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 12:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:25 "Blow it up, bitch. You don't know how to..." What is that? What's in that bag?

Ralph Barbosa 12:29 I- All right.

Joe Rogan 12:30 I- I think, I think he's a pure meth head. That's what I think. A crazy wild dude.

Ralph Barbosa 12:35 They say, they say Hitler was on meth too.

Joe Rogan 12:38 Yes. Yeah, most likely. He was definitely on oxycodone, and, um, the- the actual Nazis were definitely on meth, for sure.

Ralph Barbosa 12:46 They gave Nazis meth?

Joe Rogan 12:47 Oh, yeah, man. There's a great book... Is it out there?

Narrator 12:50 It's in the other room, yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:51 It's in the other room. It's called Blitzed, um, by, um... How do you pronounce his name?

Narrator 12:57 Or, uh... Norman Ohler.

Joe Rogan 13:02 Norman Oh- Ohler, right?

Narrator 13:04 Ohler, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:04 Ohler. Norman Ohler. Uh, great guest too. He was amazing. Um, but he wrote this book about all the meth they took during World War II. It's all about, like, the most meth they gave to the people in the tanks-

Ralph Barbosa 13:15 Wait, wait, so he was a Nazi that wrote a book?

Joe Rogan 13:18 No.

Ralph Barbosa 13:18 Oh.

Joe Rogan 13:19 He's a researcher. How dare you?

Ralph Barbosa 13:20 I wanna read a book by a Nazi.

Joe Rogan 13:22 That's the book. Well, you'd have to read, like, Mein Kampf, and you have to read it with, like, a book cover on so people don't think you're a psycho.

Ralph Barbosa 13:27 Well, I mean, we gotta know what they were thinking, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 13:30 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 13:30 People should read it, 'cause-

Joe Rogan 13:31 That's the book. That book is great.

Ralph Barbosa 13:33 Blitzed. Yes, yes (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:34 So they, they were all on meth.

Ralph Barbosa 13:35 That's Hitler just all fucked up off meth.

Joe Rogan 13:38 Well, Hitler was definitely on oxycodone. He was on a bunch of other shit, and he had a doctor. It's a, it's a really good book. You should read it. It's very interesting, 'cause it- it lets you- it gives you a totally different insight into why they were behaving the way they behaved. Like the kamikazes, for instance.

Ralph Barbosa 13:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:52 You know, they flew their planes right into the ships. They were on meth.

Ralph Barbosa 13:56 What?

Joe Rogan 13:56 Yeah. That's why they did it.

Ralph Barbosa 13:58 But like, what kind of meth? Like, were they just-

Joe Rogan 14:00 Crystal meth.

Ralph Barbosa 14:01 But like, okay, but like, how were they taking it in? Were they just like smoking the pipe and then hopping in the plane?

Joe Rogan 14:06 It's a good question. That you can eat it. First of all, there was pills, and, uh, there were actually prescription pills that the government would give out in Germany. What's it called? Previtin?

Narrator 14:16 Pervitin.

Joe Rogan 14:16 Pervitin, Pervitin. So this Pervitin stuff was essentially an over-the-counter methamphetamine that you could buy.

Ralph Barbosa 14:25 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:25 That's how many people were on meth.

Ralph Barbosa 14:27 Although, I feel like a lot of the most popular drugs at one point or another are like over-the-counter medication, or like prescribed.

Joe Rogan 14:36 At one point.

Ralph Barbosa 14:37 Right?

Joe Rogan 14:37 Oh, yeah, for sure.

Ralph Barbosa 14:38 Like cough syrup. Like everybody's doing promethazine. I mean, they still are or whatever, right?

Joe Rogan 14:42 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 14:42 But then they had to like ban it.

Joe Rogan 14:44 Yup. Yeah, syrup. Uh, for every war, an abused drug. What is this, Jeremy?

Narrator 14:49 It starts off with, uh, "I didn't know ISIS uses a ADHD drug."

Ralph Barbosa 14:55 ISIS is on Adderall?

Joe Rogan 14:56 Captagon?

Narrator 14:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:57 Captagon sounds like a fake drug. That sounds like a drug in a movie.

Ralph Barbosa 15:00 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:00 The kids want Captagon.

Ralph Barbosa 15:02 It sounds like it was made by like the guy who made adamantium metal.

Joe Rogan 15:05 Right, right, right. So it was an early ADHD, a failed ADHD drug. It was banned almost globally in the 1980s, but a few Middle Eastern nations are still producing it. What does it do?

Ralph Barbosa 15:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:18 A stimulant gives some sort of euphoria and a sense of purpose. Let's bring that shit back, Pfizer.

Ralph Barbosa 15:23 Euphoria and sense of purpose?

Joe Rogan 15:23 Stop trying to give me some fucking vaccines that I don't need. And how about hooking me up with a little euphoria-

Ralph Barbosa 15:30 And sense of purpose.

Joe Rogan 15:30 ... and a little sense of purpose? Little yellow tablets seem to be fueling much of the mayhem in Syria, but illicit drug use is on the battle- uh, on the battlefield isn't new.

Narrator 15:39 Okay, and that's Pervitin.

Joe Rogan 15:41 Yeah, so the methamphetamine Pervitin was distributed to soldiers in preparation for the war. And what's interesting about that is they had different doses for different people. Like the dudes in the tank at the very front, they got the most meth. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 15:53 Damn.

Joe Rogan 15:53 Of course. You're gonna need it, you have the craziest job.

Ralph Barbosa 15:56 They're just, they're just like... Uh, 'cause they would have to stick their heads out the top of the tank, wouldn't they?

Joe Rogan 16:01 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 16:01 And then like give the directions?

Joe Rogan 16:02 So there is-

Ralph Barbosa 16:03 "Fucking go, fucking go right now. Fucking turn around."

Joe Rogan 16:05 Yeah. They gotta...

Ralph Barbosa 16:06 (screaming)

Joe Rogan 16:07 "Shoot him, shoot him again."

Narrator 16:08 Boom, boom, boom.

Ralph Barbosa 16:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:09 I mean, you imagine what it sounds like when a fucking tank cannon goes off? She says the US military distributed an estimated 200 million amphetamine pills to its soldiers during World War II, and Japanese kamikaze pilots in the Pacific used it in their final fateful missions.

Ralph Barbosa 16:24 Whoa, whoa. US military.

Narrator 16:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:26 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 16:27 Our- our guys were on meth too?

Joe Rogan 16:28 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 16:30 World War Meth.

Joe Rogan 16:31 US military distributed an estimated 200 million amphetamine pills to its soldiers during World War II. Yeah, well this is... Look, if you have soldiers and they're in combat, you want them to live and succeed. You don't give a shit if they're on... "Oh, they're taking steroids." Good, give them all the steroids. Give them every fucking thing you can give them. Give them EPO if it helps their endurance. Give them steroids, give them shit that makes them more aggressive. Give them things that make them more confident. Give them everything.

Ralph Barbosa 17:03 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:03 Give them beta blockers, give them whatever the fuck works. They're in combat. Like it's, that's important. So if you got amphetamine, give that shit up, dog.

Ralph Barbosa 17:11 Do you think anybody was like, they stayed addicted or anything?

Joe Rogan 17:15 Oh, for sure.

Ralph Barbosa 17:16 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 17:16 Yeah, for sure. Yeah, 100%.

Ralph Barbosa 17:18 Would it be cool if I went up to like a World War II veteran with like a pipe and was like torching at the barn?

Joe Rogan 17:22 I don't think they do it that way. I think they were taking the pills.

Ralph Barbosa 17:24 You know, "You still like to party, old man?"

Joe Rogan 17:26 (laughs) Just crush some of them pills up, put it on a table. Maybe he'll snort it.

Ralph Barbosa 17:31 (laughs) I learn, I learn a lot when I'm here. I feel like a lot of your guests, like they have so much to like share with the world.

Joe Rogan 17:38 There's a couple folks.

Ralph Barbosa 17:38 But I just come here to just ingest.

Joe Rogan 17:40 Well, I'm ingesting too, dog. Uh, child soldiers in Africa... Why couldn't I say that word right? Child soldiers in Africa are commonly given a mixture called brown-brown, which is cocaine and gunpowder.

Ralph Barbosa 17:52 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 17:53 Whoa. This is ingested by inhaling it into the nostrils, a method that rapidly affects the user, and it is condu- conducive to addiction. What- what about the gunpowder makes it better?

Narrator 18:07 Uh, also here, as you were saying that too. Back to the Civil War, they would use an alcohol and then-

Joe Rogan 18:13 Yeah, American Civil War soldiers were often given alcohol prior to battle as a form of liquid courage and as a means of steadying their nerves. Huh.... World W- wow. Niall Ferguson concluded that World War I could not have been fought without alcohol. During World War II, amphetamines were used. Yeah, amphetamines are better. Like, if you, like, if you, you've got a choice between alcohol and amphetamines, like, bro.

Ralph Barbosa 18:36 I was watching this dude. Oh, man, I forgot his name. He, like, gives these lectures on history. David? No, I don't know. I'm not, I'm gonna-

Joe Rogan 18:45 Dan Carlin?

Ralph Barbosa 18:46 No, that's not it.

Joe Rogan 18:47 No?

Ralph Barbosa 18:47 Wait, can I, can I pull it up on my phone?

Joe Rogan 18:49 Yeah, sure.

Ralph Barbosa 18:50 I don't know why I feel like this is like school.

Joe Rogan 18:52 What was he, um, doing lectures about?

Ralph Barbosa 18:54 I don't know. I was only watching them 'cause I was like, "I better brief up on something to talk about."

Joe Rogan 18:58 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 18:59 'Cause last time I was here-

Joe Rogan 19:01 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 19:01 ... I, I was... Do you know how I read the comments on the last time I was here and people were like, "Ah, this episode, this dude's not so cool. He's like, he's not interesting. The last guy was, was better. That was a great episode, the last guy." So I'm like, "All right. Well, who is he?" You know? And that dude was, like, out here. I think he was, like, a fighter pilot, talking about aliens, like, spinning. And I was like, "Why? Why'd y'all put me after that fucking guy?" Like...

Joe Rogan 19:24 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 19:24 And you know on the way here...

Joe Rogan 19:25 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 19:26 On the way here, the driver was like, "Yeah, man, the other day we drove an Irish comedy writer who, uh, ended up getting canceled. And this and this happened. And he fucking, they took his shows off, but there's all this controversy." And I'm like, "Now I gotta go up against this guy." Like, that guy has-

Joe Rogan 19:43 You can't think about it that way, man.

Ralph Barbosa 19:45 That's true.

Joe Rogan 19:45 We're just hanging out. We're having fun. People like these shows as much as they like all the other shows sometimes. This is the part of the show where I talk about AG1, which I've done for years. And usually I like to talk about routine. And don't get me wrong, 'cause routine is super important, and AG1 is exactly the kind of daily easy routine that can help you feel healthy and help you get the nutrients that your body needs. But even if you love a routine, isn't it nice to switch it up a little? Well, here we go. After 15 years of the original, AG1 has introduced three new flavors: tropical, berry, and citrus. It's still daily, it's still routine, but it's no longer one flavor fits all. And honestly, the best part is that's the only thing that's changed. Besides new flavors, we're talking about the same science, the same 75 plus ingredients, and the same exact benefits. I partnered with AG1 for so long because they're committed to constantly improving. And now, that includes offering three new flavors. Subscribe today and choose tropical citrus, berry, or the classic original variety. If you use my link, you'll also get a free bottle of AG D3 K2, an AG1 welcome kit, and five AG1 travel packs with your first subscription. Just go to drinkag1.com/jorogan or head to the link in the description to get started with AG1 and try the new flavors yourself. That's drinkag1.com/jorogan.

Ralph Barbosa 21:09 Look, this guy's name is Dr. Roy.

Joe Rogan 21:12 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 21:13 Casagranda.

Joe Rogan 21:14 Okay. And what is his deal?

Ralph Barbosa 21:16 So, I was watching this video where he explains like what led to World War II.

Joe Rogan 21:20 Oh, interesting.

Ralph Barbosa 21:21 But he spends like 45 minutes talking about the hundreds of years before World War I even and how that kind of came to play.

Joe Rogan 21:30 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 21:30 So, first he, like, first he explains how World War I came to play, because to understand why, why World War II happened, you gotta understand-

Joe Rogan 21:37 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 21:38 ... why, what caused World War I, you know. And, uh, I forgot where I was going with this. There was just a point to it.

Joe Rogan 21:43 Just history. History of war.

Ralph Barbosa 21:44 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. So, uh, everything... I listened to it. I had to listen to it, like, three times 'cause, uh, you know, I just, I kept getting distracted and stuff. But it sounds so, like, sophisticated, and it makes sense if you listen to it all. I'm like, "Okay, I get why World War I happened now." Um, but then finding out that everybody was just, like, drunk and on meth the whole time just sounds like-

Joe Rogan 22:09 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 22:09 It sounds like it just was such a bro-y idea to go to war. Like, it's all the sophistication behind it.

Joe Rogan 22:14 Well-

Ralph Barbosa 22:14 But then at the end, they were just like, "Fuck it. Let's just get fucked up while we're out there, though."

Joe Rogan 22:17 But all those old-time English gentlemen, they all wanted to go to war. It was like you wanted to prove your courage in battle. You know, it was a, it was a, uh, it was a bro-y thing. It was almost like a frat boy thing.

Ralph Barbosa 22:31 Well, everybody wanted to conquer land back then, right? And just rule empires and shit.

Joe Rogan 22:36 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 22:37 I, I feel like we should go back to that.

Joe Rogan 22:39 (laughs) What are you talking about?

Ralph Barbosa 22:40 No, I feel like stuff is too leisurely now. It's too comfortable.

Joe Rogan 22:44 That's true. But we need to teach people that leisurely is not good for you. We, you don't need artificial... You know, you don't need the kind of conflict that's gonna ruin cities and kill people. And don't go back to that. That's stupid. We just need to understand how to manage the human body.

Ralph Barbosa 23:01 What do you mean?

Joe Rogan 23:02 Manage the body. Manage your brain and your body. That's the, the-

Ralph Barbosa 23:05 Are you saying everybody should work out to just eat healthier?

Joe Rogan 23:08 That's a, that's a mi- the mo- most minor interpretation of it.

Ralph Barbosa 23:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:13 But we need to figure out a, a way to keep people from being aggressive and to keep people from being greedy and keep people from stealing resources. And we need to curb some of the worst aspects of human nature.

Ralph Barbosa 23:26 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:26 And I think the only way to do that is mushrooms.

Ralph Barbosa 23:29 Everybody has to... Like, mandatory mushroom-

Joe Rogan 23:33 Mandatory mushrooms.

Ralph Barbosa 23:34 Mandatory mushrooms.

Joe Rogan 23:34 Yeah. If I become president, mandatory mushrooms.

Ralph Barbosa 23:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:37 We'll have Mushroom Day. And afterwards, everybody's just gonna hug it out and go, "Wow, I don't know what I was thinking, man. I'm sorry." (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 23:42 It's like an adult vaccine.

Joe Rogan 23:44 Yeah. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 23:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:46 A vaccine for human stupidity. But I mean, that's the, our problem is that we're managing human behavior, right? We're managing we want to steal resources from this country 'cause they got all the natural gas. And this country's got all the minerals, so we're trying to make some sort of a side deal with the rebels to overthrow the government. That's what's the most of the problems in the world. It's people being cunts.

Ralph Barbosa 24:08 Hold on. Hold on before I forget this.

Joe Rogan 24:10 What do you got?

Ralph Barbosa 24:10 Oh, I got it right up here. You said two things. Uh, earlier-

Joe Rogan 24:16 (laughs) You're writing this.

Ralph Barbosa 24:17 ... you said that was the most minor interpretation.

Joe Rogan 24:20 Yes.

Ralph Barbosa 24:21 And then right now you said, uh-... what you say? The cure... Stupidity?

Joe Rogan 24:27 Human stupidity.

Ralph Barbosa 24:29 The cure for human stupidity?

Joe Rogan 24:30 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 24:31 Is that what you said? Cure for human stupidity?

Joe Rogan 24:32 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 24:33 Minor interpretation, the most minor interpretation. That should be the title of my next special.

Joe Rogan 24:39 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 24:39 And Cure For Human Stupidity should be the title for your next special.

Joe Rogan 24:43 There's no cure, but we need to r-... We need t- to guide a larger percentage of people in the right direction, and that, like, worldwide would... That'd be the only way we save this, this experiment of the human race. The only other way is AI. AI is a way that might save us or make us obsolete.

Ralph Barbosa 25:04 Yo, um, AI, that's some scary shit, 'cause I... (laughs) Uh, I wa-... (laughs) I don't know if it's real. I saw this video. I don't know h-... When, when it was shot or, like, how recent or not recent it is, because I just... I mean, all I'm watching is just Instagram Reels, right?

Joe Rogan 25:21 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 25:21 So it's a minute at, at the longest. It's, like, a minute long. So this could be a m-... A minute from some movie from 2002.

Joe Rogan 25:30 Okay. What is it?

Ralph Barbosa 25:30 Or it could've been recorded. But there's a video supposedly the, the... It said the godfather of AI warns people about the dangers of AI. But I'm like, "Why..." Like, if that's real, if, if whoever it was, like, behind AI, whatever team it was is like, "Hey, but be careful with this," it's like, why'd you make it, then? Like, I feel like they just did it to jerk themselves off, like a, like, a real Oppenheimer thing where he's like, "Now I become death, destroyer of world order."

Joe Rogan 25:56 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 25:56 It's like, why'd you do it then? You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 25:59 Well, it's the same kinda thing in that you have to do it, because if you don't do it, your enemy's gonna do it. If your enemy's get ahold of it, the whole world is very different.

Ralph Barbosa 26:06 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 26:07 The idea is that if America does it... America, we k-... We kinda suck in some ways. We suck with some of the things that we do with other countries. We suck with some of the ways we spend our taxes. But we're the best out there. We're the best option right now. This is the best way to run the world. It's the best way to behave in terms of, like, your freedoms, having as much freedom as possible. Th- th-... No countries have this combination of freedom of speech, First Amendment, Second Amendment. The... There's, there's a lot of rights that we have in this country that are just different than the whole rest of the world. I think it's the best way to do it, and we like to think of ourselves as being the most benevolent of all the superpowers. We're the best ones. The other ones are evil. They're communist. They're run by dictators. We're, we're trying v-... Like, that's why everybody's afraid of Trump being a dictator. We don't want any dictators in this country. So if we develop AI first, phew, we won. That's good. Just like we developed the nuclear bomb. We dropped a couple of 'em and said, "Now back the fuck off. We're done here. We don't wanna do this anymore," and then we never did it again.

Ralph Barbosa 27:10 Huh.

Joe Rogan 27:10 So that's good. Now, if Germany had developed the atomic bomb first and nuked Britain and nuked America and just went on a nuking spree before we could ever develop one-

Ralph Barbosa 27:22 You see the-

Joe Rogan 27:22 ... imagine how different the world would be.

Ralph Barbosa 27:24 Yeah. You ever, you ever watch those videos, the AI videos of, like, two celebrities making out? It'll be like Elon Musk kissing, like-

Joe Rogan 27:32 Trump.

Ralph Barbosa 27:32 ... Brad Pitt or some-

Joe Rogan 27:33 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 27:33 ... or Trump, you know?

Joe Rogan 27:33 Yeah, I've seen those. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 27:34 I feel like we had to make a couple of those and then tell the world like, "All right, now back the fuck off."

Joe Rogan 27:38 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 27:39 We did that.

Joe Rogan 27:40 Yeah. Do you know how many times they blew up atomic bombs for tests, though, after that? I'm learning more and more about that recently. I'm reading this new book right now, uh, by this guy Richard Dolan. He's a UFO researcher. And he's talking about one of the things that they were doing was, um... They were doing altitude detonations, so they were detonating these nuclear bombs 150 miles above Earth. They did a bunch of 'em. They did it, like, a bunch of times. And-

Ralph Barbosa 28:08 But then wasn't... Doesn't it stay in the air?

Joe Rogan 28:11 They didn't even know. They were just experimenting and testing. There's a bunch of shit they did that is so wild. Do you know, like, John Wayne did a movie, um, in the Nevada desert near where the test sites were where they... They blew up, like, I don't know how many hundreds of fucking nuclear bombs out there. They blew up tons of nuclear bombs.

Ralph Barbosa 28:30 And then John Wayne just went out there and was like, "What's up?"

Joe Rogan 28:33 The whole cast got cancer.

Ralph Barbosa 28:34 The whole cast?

Joe Rogan 28:35 The whole cast got cancer. John Wayne died of cancer. Like, a giant percentage of the people that worked on that show, on that movie got cancer.

Ralph Barbosa 28:42 Imagine-

Joe Rogan 28:42 See if you can find that, the results of that.

Ralph Barbosa 28:44 Imagine being on the team who's, like, sending the nukes into the air, and then you just kinda see, like, the cloud stay in the air. Like, I wonder who was the first guy to be like, "Ah, shit."

Joe Rogan 28:53 They didn't even understand it then.

Ralph Barbosa 28:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:55 Dude, no one had been... No one had been subject to large-scale radiation before. It, it was a new thing, especially from a detonation. It had never happened before. There was no meltdowns yet. There was no Three Mile Island or Fukushima yet. Uh, 1980 article in People magazine reported that out of the 220 cast and crew members, 91 had contacted cancer, contracted cancer, with 46 deaths. Led to the film being dubbed an RKO radioactive picture. The controversy surrounding the film location and subsequent health issues has been a point of discussion and debate amongst historians and scientists. But yeah, like, the amount of bombs that they detonated is-

Ralph Barbosa 29:38 Was it a good movie at least?

Joe Rogan 29:40 I don't think it was. It might've been that Genghis Khan movie.

Ralph Barbosa 29:43 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 29:43 Was it the Genghis Khan movie?

Narrator 29:44 Yes.

Joe Rogan 29:44 Oh, it was a piece of shit.

Ralph Barbosa 29:45 What is that movie rated on Rotten Tomatoes? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:47 Bro, it has to be a zero. It's so bad.

Ralph Barbosa 29:49 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 29:50 It's John Wayne playing a Mongolian, which is the craziest thing of all time.

Ralph Barbosa 29:55 Ah.

Joe Rogan 29:55 It was the ultimate whitewashing.

Ralph Barbosa 29:57 (laughs) He's doing Mongolian face?

Joe Rogan 29:59 And he talks like this. 10% on Rotten Tomatoes. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 30:04 This is what you got cancer for, John Wayne? Come on, man.

Joe Rogan 30:06 Bro... No, he got cancer for the worst... The Conqueror. And look how hot she is. She's, like, completely European-looking, his girlfriend. Like, play some of this 'cause it's so stupid. Yeah, fall off the horse. (instrumental music plays) Look how hot she is. Woo.

Ralph Barbosa 30:20 She's all impressed by him.

Joe Rogan 30:21 And he just took her clothes off.

Ralph Barbosa 30:24 (sighs)

Narrator 30:24 (instrumental music plays) ... under his heel, the cowering nations.

Ralph Barbosa 30:29 Look how bad this is.

Narrator 30:31 In his arms, the unconquered woman. He took what he wanted when he wanted it. Bortei beats his fire with ice, matches his fury with flame. Your hatred will kindle into love.

30:43 Before that day dawns, Mongol, the vultures will have feasted on your heart.

Ralph Barbosa 30:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:51 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 30:51 Oh, shit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:54 Bro, I mean, come on.

Ralph Barbosa 30:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:55 This is the dumbest movie ever and it gained John Wayne cancer.

Ralph Barbosa 30:58 Bro- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:59 It's so bad. Like, how bad is that movie?

Ralph Barbosa 31:02 Women always talk about how, like, um... Oh, like I, like, I was reading this article where they were trying to trash F1 and-

Joe Rogan 31:09 The movie?

Ralph Barbosa 31:09 Yeah. And they were like, "Oh, another movie where the, the only woman working..." 'Cause, like, uh, th- the girl in the movie, she is, she's like the first, uh... What is she? Like, the team director or something?

Joe Rogan 31:23 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 31:23 For an F1 team. Like, the first woman with her. It's like, and she doesn't, uh, you know, like, she doesn't level up until Brad Pitt unlocks her potential. Like, "Oh, like, we need a man for that." But it's like, bro, women have the best roles in movies.

Joe Rogan 31:37 Not in that movie.

Ralph Barbosa 31:39 I mean, yeah, she got, she got hit pretty hard, but you, if you think about it, this is a movie about like, "Oh, Genghis Khan conquering so much, but the best thing he conquered was the woman." Like, really? You know what I mean? Like, they don't... Uh, the woman's always like the main prize of the movie.

Joe Rogan 31:54 Dude, well, throughout history, that's one of the things that people did go to war for.

Ralph Barbosa 31:58 Women?

Joe Rogan 31:59 Yeah, for sure.

Ralph Barbosa 32:00 It's nuts.

Joe Rogan 32:00 Nobody went to war for some dude's butt. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 32:04 A lot of... (laughs) I feel like a lot of war could have been prevented then if, like, porn had just came around way sooner.

Joe Rogan 32:12 No, 'cause porn's out now and there's still plenty of war.

Ralph Barbosa 32:15 That's true. So why are they going to war for now?

Joe Rogan 32:17 Resources. You see, all it is is, like, tricking people.

Ralph Barbosa 32:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:20 Tricking people into doing something for you.

Ralph Barbosa 32:22 Women and resources, man. Women and resources. When are we gonna learn?

Joe Rogan 32:26 It's just money, man. It's-

Ralph Barbosa 32:28 There's enough women and resources for everybody.

Joe Rogan 32:30 There's not, though.

Ralph Barbosa 32:31 Not?

Joe Rogan 32:32 Mm-mm.

Ralph Barbosa 32:33 There's at least enough women.

Joe Rogan 32:35 Yeah, but they're not the same. Here's the thing. For women, I think the number is women are only attracted to 20% of the men.

Ralph Barbosa 32:44 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:45 So, like, 100% of the women out there are only attracted to 20% of the men.

Ralph Barbosa 32:50 That kind of makes it fun, you know? 'Cause you gotta hope-

Joe Rogan 32:52 No.

Ralph Barbosa 32:52 ... you're in the 20%.

Joe Rogan 32:53 Yeah, but if you're not, you're fucked.

Ralph Barbosa 32:54 If you're not, you just go to war.

Joe Rogan 32:55 And there's more of those dudes that are in the 80% now than ever in history that we can know, that we know of, right? Like, isn't there... Like, when they do the studies of the amount of people right now, currently, that are celibate, that are not having any sex at all, and not by their own decision, not by their choice, I think they're higher now than they've been in a long time.

Ralph Barbosa 33:19 People are going celibate?

Joe Rogan 33:20 On accident. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 33:22 (laughs) Yeah, they-

Joe Rogan 33:23 They're just, they're just nowhere, they're unfuckable.

Ralph Barbosa 33:25 Unintentional.

Joe Rogan 33:25 Nobody wants to fuck 'em.

Ralph Barbosa 33:26 Celibacy.

Joe Rogan 33:27 That's real, man. That's like a real problem. A bunch of people just sitting at home and watching TV all day and ordering DoorDash.

Ralph Barbosa 33:35 I think you gotta, like, split your time up. You know what I mean? I think celibacy could be good for, like, like, a week or two, and then you gotta be like, "All right, no more DoorDash. Let's get out there."

Joe Rogan 33:46 Yeah, just get out there. Stop being a pussy.

Ralph Barbosa 33:49 Get married or, you know, get into-

Joe Rogan 33:51 I know you know that.

Ralph Barbosa 33:51 ... relationships. Have an affair.

Joe Rogan 33:53 Well, don't be just jerking off all day. That's crazy.

Ralph Barbosa 33:56 I actually wanna write a self-help book, but not like a real one. Like a, maybe like a joke one, you know?

Joe Rogan 34:01 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 34:02 But something that... I don't think my standup comedy would ever get me canceled, but I think maybe, like, a book. But I wanna call it something like, like, I don't know. Like, You're Not Autistic, You're Just 25 and, Like, an Asshole or something like that. And then j-... The whole book just tell people, like, "Get off your ass, man. Like, stop making excuses."

Joe Rogan 34:19 What do you do for actual autistic people that read that book, though? They're like, "Hey, he says I'm not autistic."

Ralph Barbosa 34:24 (laughs) I'm gonna be like, "You're not autistic then believe what you want."

Joe Rogan 34:27 How many people do you think are autistic? What percentage?

Ralph Barbosa 34:30 Um, I don't know. I feel like probably a lot, but I think there's, like, there's, like, aut-

Joe Rogan 34:35 You think a bunch of people are saying they're autistic so that they get, like, extra credit?

Ralph Barbosa 34:38 Yeah, I think it's, like, it's... I think it's like being, like, like, what do you call it? Like, Apache or whatever.

Joe Rogan 34:44 Oh, where you lie?

Ralph Barbosa 34:44 Or, like, Cherokee.

Joe Rogan 34:45 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 34:45 Where you're just like, "Oh, yeah, I'm, like, one-eighth."

Joe Rogan 34:48 Yeah (laughs) .

Ralph Barbosa 34:48 Some... Like, it-

Joe Rogan 34:49 Like, "I'm one-eighth au- autistic."

Ralph Barbosa 34:51 Yeah, I-

Joe Rogan 34:51 "I'm kind of psychic."

Ralph Barbosa 34:53 Oh, yeah. Like, so I think if you come up on the spectrum, it doesn't mean that you're, like-

Joe Rogan 34:58 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 34:58 ... enough-

Joe Rogan 34:58 Full-blown.

Ralph Barbosa 34:58 Yeah. Like, you, you've seen people with, like, full-blown autism.

Joe Rogan 35:01 Right, right.

Ralph Barbosa 35:02 And the struggles they have to go through in life.

Joe Rogan 35:03 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 35:03 Like, somebody has to be in their life. You know what I mean? Like, to-

Joe Rogan 35:07 Yeah, for non-verbal people. Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 35:08 Yeah. Or, like, just whatever. But you can't, like, be a, a, a, a, a... You can't just, like, wake up, you know, play video games, go do stuff on your own, and then, like, use autism as an excuse for other stuff you don't wanna do. Like, "Oh, I didn't wanna shake that guy's hand 'cause I'm just, like, autistic." Like-

Joe Rogan 35:27 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 35:28 Like, motherfucker, just look at the person in the face. Don't look 'em in the eyes, just look 'em in the face or something. Just don't be rude. Like, I feel like a lot, I feel like a lot of... And maybe it's because the way I grew up, but, like, if I tried to use autism as an excuse to get out of doing stuff, I think I just would've got smacked in the back of the head. I think, I think it would've smacked the autism out of me. You know what I mean? The one-eighth, at least.

Joe Rogan 35:47 I don't think I have any autism in me.

Ralph Barbosa 35:49 No?

Joe Rogan 35:50 Unfortunately.

Ralph Barbosa 35:50 (laughs) Why you say unfortunately?

Joe Rogan 35:52 Maybe it'll help with math.

Ralph Barbosa 35:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:54 Help with numbers. Jamie? (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 35:56 Like Rain Man? I think Jamie's autistic. How does he, how does he... Or, uh, uh, maybe not autistic. Maybe he just knows how your brain works.

Joe Rogan 36:04 What's the difference-

Ralph Barbosa 36:04 How does he know to highlight the exact sentences you should read?

Joe Rogan 36:08 What's the difference between, um... Because he's smart. What's the difference between... And he's been doing this forever. What's the difference between Asperger's and autism? Like, the technical difference. 'Cause, like, they're kind of interchangeable, right?

Ralph Barbosa 36:20 Uh, are they both, like, communication type?

Joe Rogan 36:23 A lot of times people say the spectrum. They call it the spectrum. Like, "Oh, he's on the spectrum." "Oh, okay. Okay. Where?"Like, the spectrum could be anywhere. Like, you could be, you could be like you gotta have a touch, just a touch of the 'tism, you know? Or you could be like full-blown-

Narrator 36:38 I don't know if this is official, but here's an explanation.

Joe Rogan 36:40 Key characters.

Narrator 36:41 Key characters. All right. Um, in autism, significant delays in language, may be non-verbal or of limited speech. Um, Asperger's, typically no language delay, advanced vocabulary for age. Interesting. Um, autism varies widely from intellectual disability to above average intelligence, and then Asperger's, usually average to above average intelligence. Uh, autism social interaction difficulties may show less interest in engagement, and then Asperger's desires social interaction but struggles with social cues and non-verbal communication. So, it seems like Asperger's is like the upgraded autism. Mm.

Joe Rogan 37:22 It's like autism is too risky, you could, you know, get a kid who's non-verbal, but go with Asperger's, you might get a genius.

Narrator 37:29 Everybody wants autism, though.

Joe Rogan 37:31 Well, I think they really w- would want Asperger's if you showed it to them.

Narrator 37:34 If they knew-

Joe Rogan 37:34 It's like Cialis versus Viagra.

Narrator 37:36 Yeah, if they knew.

Joe Rogan 37:37 Yeah, if they knew.

Narrator 37:38 But I think people use autism as like a, "Oh, look. I'm not average. I'm actually high functioning autism." Like, "I'm actually a genius in this class."

Joe Rogan 37:49 Right. People definitely use, they love to be a victim of something.

Narrator 37:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:53 They love to have some sort of an ailment that you don't know about, you know? People love that.

Narrator 37:58 I'm not, I'm not like that.

Joe Rogan 38:00 You know-

Narrator 38:00 I'm diabetic. I never tell people.

Joe Rogan 38:02 Are you full-blown diabetic, like-

Narrator 38:03 Full-blown.

Joe Rogan 38:04 ... Type 1?

Narrator 38:05 Not like, not like with the autism thing.

Joe Rogan 38:06 Not the food stuff?

Narrator 38:07 Yeah, Type 1.

Joe Rogan 38:09 Um, so you're born with it?

Narrator 38:10 No.

Joe Rogan 38:11 No.

Narrator 38:11 I got it when I was like six.

Joe Rogan 38:13 Really?

Narrator 38:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:14 Type 1 when you're six. That's crazy.

Narrator 38:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:17 You know, they just cured Type 1 diabetes in a w- woman with stem cells.

Narrator 38:21 What?

Joe Rogan 38:22 Yeah. It was, uh, the first of its kind. I... Was it China that did this? See if you can find it, Jamie. Um, but yeah, you know, they're, they're using stem cells to try to treat all sorts of different things, and one of the things that they were really successful was with this lady, they cured, for the first time ever, Type 1 diabetes.

Narrator 38:40 How do they give you the stem cells?

Joe Rogan 38:42 It's a good question.

Narrator 38:43 Do you smoke it in a pipe?

Joe Rogan 38:43 No. I think they inject it into you. Um, but-

Narrator 38:46 That's not too bad.

Joe Rogan 38:47 But if this... I mean, you might not have to take insulin. Do you take insulin right now?

Narrator 38:51 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:51 Yeah. You might not have to take insulin. They might be able to fix you.

Narrator 38:55 How do I get these stem cells?

Joe Rogan 38:56 Let's see what it says. What is the, the...

Narrator 38:58 I mean, it doesn't...

Joe Rogan 38:59 It says world's first stem cell therapy reverses diabetes. So, where was it from? Where did it happen? Um, ground-breaking title in Peking University. Uh, they took cells from three people with Type 1 diabetes and reverted them to pluripotent state, meaning they could develop into any type of cell. This technique, originally developed by Shinya Y- Yamanaka at Kyoto University nearly 20 years ago, was modified by Deng's team to use small molecules instead of proteins, allowing for better control. They used these chemically reprogrammed stem cells to create 3D clusters of insulin-producing isolates, which were tested for safety in animals in June of 2023. The team transplanted about 1.5 million isolates into a woman's abdominal muscles, a new approach, as most isolate transplants are done in the liver. By placing the cells in the abdomen, they could monitor them with an MRI and remove them if necessary. The operation took less than th- 30 minutes. Two and a half months after her transplant, the woman with Type 1 diabetes started producing enough insulin on her own, and she has continued to do so for over a year. How about that? Her blood sugar levels are stable 98% of the time, eliminating dangerous spikes and drops. That's crazy.

Narrator 40:18 What? Wait, this was, this was in China?

Joe Rogan 40:20 I believe so. Yeah.

Narrator 40:21 That's badass.

Joe Rogan 40:22 Yeah.

Narrator 40:22 What if the, what if I met this doctor and he was like, "All right, I'll do the operation on you, but you have to say my name correctly the first time"? What's... Yamanaka Shimoya?

Joe Rogan 40:32 I would just practice it.

Narrator 40:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:33 I would say practice it if you wanna not have diabetes.

Narrator 40:36 (laughs)

40:36 (laughs)

40:36 What kind of question is that?

40:37 (laughs)

40:38 Shinya Yamanaka.

Joe Rogan 40:40 They might be able to hook you up.

Narrator 40:42 That'd be... All right.

Joe Rogan 40:42 What do you think?

Narrator 40:44 I don't know. How do I... Like, how do you even start that process? You just go to China and-

Joe Rogan 40:47 Yeah, you gotta go to China right now. Get ou- get outta here.

Narrator 40:51 I ain't-

Joe Rogan 40:51 Get on a plane. (laughs)

Narrator 40:52 I gotta finish this press tour.

Joe Rogan 40:54 (laughs)

Narrator 40:54 I'll cure diabetes after.

Joe Rogan 40:55 (laughs) I bet, uh, it's gonna be mainstream within a few years. If that worked and that's r- you know, reproducible.

Narrator 41:03 Dude, I wanna go to China now for real and like...

Joe Rogan 41:06 It'll probably be in America, too.

Narrator 41:08 Yep.

Joe Rogan 41:08 Because what they're saying, the way they're laying it out, it sounds like there's a paper on it, and that, that thing, that, that, was that, was that a published paper?

Narrator 41:15 Yeah. There's a... It's called, uh, V- VX880Z- ... I can't say that word.

41:23 I guess I should probably wait until they do, like, a few more patients, right? It's like PS5s, like, you wanna let the first round go out first with the, the ones with the bugs and stuff.

Joe Rogan 41:30 No, fuck it. I would go right in there. Let's go. Let's see. See if you can fix me.

Narrator 41:36 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 41:36 Yeah.

Narrator 41:36 You don't want to deal with shooting insulin all the time. That's annoying. How often do you have to do it?

41:40 Uh, before a meal, and I usually eat about three times a day.

Joe Rogan 41:44 Oh, so you have to give yourself three injections a day. That's annoying.

Narrator 41:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:47 And since you were six you've been doing that?

Narrator 41:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:49 Wow.

Narrator 41:50 Yeah. I- I'm a little tired of it.

Joe Rogan 41:53 Does it... Yeah, well, th- this might be it, man.

Narrator 41:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:55 This might be able to fix you.

Narrator 41:57 What if I miss the shots, though? Like...

42:00 There's a trial I think they've done in the US with 12 people.

42:04 Oh, they did a trial with 12 people?

Joe Rogan 42:05 Hmm.

Narrator 42:06 Or 12 participants.

Joe Rogan 42:07 Demonstrated engraftment with glucose-responsive endogenous, endogenose, genous, endogena, endogene... (laughs)

Narrator 42:16 Indigenous.

42:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:18 Why can't I say endogenous? Like, how did I not read that correctly? Endogenous C-peptide production which is durable through one year of followup. Wow.

Narrator 42:28 What does that mean?

Joe Rogan 42:28 That means a year of followup, it was still working.

Narrator 42:30 It was still good?

Joe Rogan 42:31 Had a reduction in eg- exogenous insulin use, meaning reduction in daily insulin, insulin use by 92%, so they still had to take a little bit of the insulin sometimes.So, I bet this is something that you could probably do more than one time.

Ralph Barbosa 42:46 Yeah, these are all off of a one dose they got.

Joe Rogan 42:48 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 42:48 One single infusion.

Joe Rogan 42:50 So, if a full dose, and then you have a complete reduction in insulin reduce, reduction. So, it says 83% of them no longer required insulin at month 12. That's nuts. 83% of all the people they tested didn't require insulin a year later. That's amazing. You gotta get in on that, dog.

Ralph Barbosa 43:11 Yeah. But like, I don't even know who to talk to.

Joe Rogan 43:13 We'll find out. We'll ask afterwards.

Ralph Barbosa 43:16 All right.

Joe Rogan 43:16 For real. You should probably find out, like maybe there's another trial they're doing you can get on too.

Ralph Barbosa 43:20 And I'm for it too.

Joe Rogan 43:21 Yeah. I would get involved in that trial. That seems like totally reasonable.

Ralph Barbosa 43:26 Yeah. That-

Joe Rogan 43:26 Unless I would ... Well, I'd talk to a scientist first.

Ralph Barbosa 43:29 I don't know-

Joe Rogan 43:29 I really like to talk to some people that are concerned about things.

Ralph Barbosa 43:33 Yeah. You always talk to the person who's like, against the plan.

Joe Rogan 43:36 Yeah. There's always some side effect that you don't take into consideration. Like, "Oh." Well, if you do that, here's the problem. It also does this. You're like, "Oh, no."

Ralph Barbosa 43:44 I don't-

Joe Rogan 43:45 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 43:45 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 43:45 Maybe dopamine.

Ralph Barbosa 43:45 But what if I don't even ... Like, what if I suck after I'm cured? You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 43:49 What are you talking about, bro? What? What are you saying?

Ralph Barbosa 43:51 Like, what if it just changes me?

Joe Rogan 43:51 What are you saying?

Ralph Barbosa 43:52 What if I just don't know how to act afterwards, you know?

Joe Rogan 43:54 Ralph. Come on.

Ralph Barbosa 43:56 I, honestly, living without diabetes, that would go to my head so fast.

Joe Rogan 44:00 You'd get cocky?

Ralph Barbosa 44:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:01 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 44:01 I'd drop people out of my life. Like, "Fuck I need you for? I'm healthy."

Joe Rogan 44:05 (laughs) You'd be fine. I've, I heard people say things like that before. Like, if I fix this, maybe I won't be funny anymore or if I fix this, maybe my life won't be good anymore.

Ralph Barbosa 44:16 (laughs) Nah. Honestly, I could use something life changing. I got like writer's block real bad right now.

Joe Rogan 44:20 Do you?

Ralph Barbosa 44:20 I don't know what to talk ... Yeah. I'm like un- ... I'm like unmotivated with new stand-up. I was reading that book you got out there. I never-

Joe Rogan 44:28 The War of Art?

Ralph Barbosa 44:29 No, no, no, no. Um ... Oh, the Hunter S. Thompson book?

Joe Rogan 44:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 44:32 Yeah. Hunter S. Thompson was a dude or that was a chick?

Joe Rogan 44:36 You don't know who Hunter S. Thompson is?

Ralph Barbosa 44:37 Nah. But I kinda-

Joe Rogan 44:39 How dare you.

Ralph Barbosa 44:39 ... have heard of Thompson's work through ... I read in the bef- like, before the book actually starts, it's like other books by Hunter S. Thompson.

Joe Rogan 44:47 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 44:48 And, uh ...

Joe Rogan 44:48 Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?

Ralph Barbosa 44:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:50 Yeah, that sounds-

Ralph Barbosa 44:51 And, uh, what is it? Rum Diaries or something?

Joe Rogan 44:52 Yep. Yep.

Ralph Barbosa 44:52 So, it's a dude. All right.

Joe Rogan 44:53 Yeah, yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 44:55 Nah, that dude's good.

Joe Rogan 44:56 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 44:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:57 Jesus Christ. What did you take before you came here? Like something-

Ralph Barbosa 45:02 Nothing. I just-

Joe Rogan 45:02 Something happ- ... You're on sleeping pills or something? What the fuck is going on?

Ralph Barbosa 45:06 No, man. I'm sober. I just woke up and came here.

Joe Rogan 45:09 Um, yeah. Hunter S. Thompson's a very famous writer from the counterculture movement.

Ralph Barbosa 45:13 He, he wrote this paragraph in that book, man. And, um ...

Joe Rogan 45:16 That was Johnny Depp, he played him in that movie.

Ralph Barbosa 45:19 Look at... Yeah. Good old Johnny Depp, man.

Joe Rogan 45:21 That's gr- ... A fun fucking movie. I don't know if you ever seen it.

Ralph Barbosa 45:23 I've seen most of it.

Joe Rogan 45:24 Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?

Ralph Barbosa 45:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:25 It's fucking great. It's a great movie. And the book is really great too. He was a, a fascinating guy. Like, probably one of my ... Not probably. One of my favorite authors ever.

Ralph Barbosa 45:34 He, he ... That book that's out there, you said it's a first edition.

Joe Rogan 45:38 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 45:38 It's like, uh, diaries of his, right? Like, he just kinda wrote-

Joe Rogan 45:41 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 45:42 ... his thoughts and like what he did throughout that day? Um, Charles Bukowski has a book like that.

Joe Rogan 45:47 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 45:47 Uh, what is it? What is it called? Like, the Captain is Out to Lunch ...

Joe Rogan 45:51 Something like that, right?

Ralph Barbosa 45:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:53 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 45:53 Yeah. Felipe Esparza put me onto that book.

Joe Rogan 45:55 Oh, okay.

Ralph Barbosa 45:55 I, I read, and I did his podcast. Uh, he ha- he has a couple Charles Bukowski books in his little library and ...

Joe Rogan 46:02 Oh. No, shit.

Ralph Barbosa 46:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:03 Shout out to Felipe. I love that dude.

Ralph Barbosa 46:04 Yeah. That dude's so talented.

Joe Rogan 46:06 I've been friends with him forever. The Captain is Out to Lunch and the Sailors Have Taken Over the Ship. Charles Bukowski.

Ralph Barbosa 46:11 Yeah. So, it's, it's kinda like that Hunter S. Thompson book. And, uh, in bo- in both of those ... I like, I like both of those books a lot. I've read like half of that one. I'm gonna buy that one. The ... But I like what Hunter S. Thompson, he said, uh, he, 'cause he's, he talked about being in his hotel room, uh, and he says, "Living on pills, phone calls unmade, people unseen, pages unwritten, money unmade, pressure piling up all around to make some kind of breakthrough and get moving again. Get the gun off the rails, finish something, croak this awful habit of not ever getting to the end of anything."

Joe Rogan 46:48 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 46:48 Dude, that's ... Man.

Joe Rogan 46:49 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 46:50 I feel like I'm there right now.

Joe Rogan 46:51 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 46:52 But I don't know if I care as much as he did, 'cause he at least wrote about it. And I've just kind of been like, "Ah, I'll get to it."

Joe Rogan 46:58 Well, you're a lot younger, first of all. And it ... Second of all, like, he was already a successful writer that was trying to like get the, the fire stoked, you know? That's the thing ... This is a great book. You can keep this. Um, I have ... Oh, that's not it.

Ralph Barbosa 47:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:14 Sorry. I thought that was The War of Art. We have piles of them out there.

Ralph Barbosa 47:18 Oh, yeah. I saw it out the ... Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:19 We have a ... Steven Pressfield gave me a whole box of them. I'll give you a copy when we leave.

Ralph Barbosa 47:23 Okay.

Joe Rogan 47:24 That's a book that will help you a lot, because it's basically just about that. That book is just about overcoming this resistance that people have to work. It's hard. It's hard to make yourself work.

Ralph Barbosa 47:36 It is.

Joe Rogan 47:36 You know?

Ralph Barbosa 47:37 Well, like, I, I have this thing where like I can't help but to like obsess on a subject and lose a lot of interest in another subject or other subjects. But like, I, like ... I mean, I ... Yeah. I choose what I like or whatever, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 47:55 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 47:55 But like, to a degree. That make sense?

Joe Rogan 47:57 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 47:57 So like, it's like chasing butterflies. Like sometimes it's like that yellow butterfly, like I just gotta keep fucking, fucking with this butterfly right here. And there's so many other butterflies around. But then sometimes it's the blue one. So, like comedy is like the blue butterfly and then like other shit is like other butterflies. I started an automotive YouTube channel with my buddy.

Joe Rogan 48:16 Oh, okay.

Ralph Barbosa 48:17 Yeah. It's not super big, but it's so fun. And it's just like little challenges that I find in it, you know? Like, learn this, learn how to do that, learn how to do this.

Joe Rogan 48:26 And the automotive in terms of like repairing stuff? Like what are you-

Ralph Barbosa 48:29 Yeah. We put a ... We got a 1989 240SX. It's my buddy's car. He bought it for like 600 bucks. And, uh, he wants to put an LS in it. But before putting the LS in it, he wanted to blow up the original motor, so we put nitrous and turbo on it, but without tuning it.... so there's, there's no computer telling it, like, how to do it safely-

Joe Rogan 48:49 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 48:49 ... or, or, like, efficiently. So, it's just, like-

Joe Rogan 48:53 God.

Ralph Barbosa 48:54 And, uh-

Joe Rogan 48:54 How'd that go?

Ralph Barbosa 48:54 ... we didn't blow up the motor. We blew up the coupler for the turbo, though. It's all, like... And the motor sucks now. Like, it won't stay on, but-

Joe Rogan 49:00 So this is a Nissan?

Ralph Barbosa 49:01 Yeah, an '89 Nissan 240.

Joe Rogan 49:04 Oh, wow.

Ralph Barbosa 49:04 Yeah, yeah. It's, it's a horrible grade car.

Joe Rogan 49:06 Why'd you choose that year?

Ralph Barbosa 49:08 That's my friend's car. He just-

Joe Rogan 49:09 Oh, he just had it laying around?

Ralph Barbosa 49:10 ... he got a good deal. Yeah. Everything we find is pretty much Facebook Marketplace.

Joe Rogan 49:14 Oh, okay.

Ralph Barbosa 49:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:14 And so then you're gonna drop an LS into that?

Ralph Barbosa 49:17 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:17 Okay.

Ralph Barbosa 49:17 We might, but maybe. Look, that's the channel.

Joe Rogan 49:19 There's your channel.

Ralph Barbosa 49:20 Formula Bean.

Joe Rogan 49:21 Oh, nice.

Ralph Barbosa 49:22 Yeah. We chose that name 'cause, like, I feel like Formula 1 is, like, like, you know, it's like pinnacle of racing and they have all these... such intelligent engineers working on these cars and they make these great motors and stuff. And I feel like this is the exact opposite, so...

Joe Rogan 49:34 Oh, dude, you're doing some real cars. You LS swapped an R34 GTR?

Ralph Barbosa 49:39 Uh, that's more like clickbait. It's just sitting in the car. We didn't, like, hook it up or nothing.

Joe Rogan 49:43 Oh, click-

Ralph Barbosa 49:43 We had to take that car to get aligned, but-

Joe Rogan 49:45 Click on that, click on that. Those Skylines are legendary cars. Those are legendary cars.

Ralph Barbosa 49:51 Oh, yeah. He got that, he got a deal on that car.

Joe Rogan 49:53 They're hard to get, man. They b- they couldn't import them into the United States until, what, like-

Ralph Barbosa 49:58 Just a few years ago.

Joe Rogan 49:58 ... 25 years after the production, right?

Ralph Barbosa 50:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:02 So there were g-... People have done shit like that before. I got... I went down a rabbit hole the other day of, uh, Skyline, like, mods and all the different things that people have done to Skylines. There's this one dude, he has this insane metallic deep purple, like a dark purple.

Ralph Barbosa 50:19 Yeah. Midnight Purple three, probably.

Joe Rogan 50:21 H- y-... Bro, it is so beautiful.

Ralph Barbosa 50:25 It's like a, it's like a big, it's like a cardinal sin, though, to put a, a LS in a Skyline.

Joe Rogan 50:30 Oh, right, you wanna use a Japanese engine, yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 50:32 Yeah, yeah, the RB, it's the original Skyline motor. So that's a, that's an R34 GTT, so that comes with the RB25. The GTR, which is like the super famous-

Joe Rogan 50:41 Yes.

Ralph Barbosa 50:41 ... the super expensive one, comes with the RB26, but...

Joe Rogan 50:45 So you really know your shit, man.

Ralph Barbosa 50:46 I'm learning.

Joe Rogan 50:47 I have an R35. I have a Nismo.

Ralph Barbosa 50:50 Oh, yeah?

Joe Rogan 50:50 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 50:50 You told me one time, I think.

Joe Rogan 50:51 Ooh, I love it.

Ralph Barbosa 50:52 One guy tried to sell me one of those, but I couldn't do it. It was too exp-... It was out of my price range.

Joe Rogan 50:56 It's expensive.

Ralph Barbosa 50:56 I have, I have an R35 too, but not a Nismo.

Joe Rogan 50:59 Well, you could... The thing about R35s is you can turn it into exactly what a Nismo is.

Ralph Barbosa 51:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:04 I mean, y-... The... Everything is modable.

Ralph Barbosa 51:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:06 I mean, these cars have been around for so long in the community of modders for both them and a lot of JDM vehicles, like, uh, Supras, like, uh, n- the 240, 240, uh, Zs, the old ones. There's a whole company now that is in the UK that takes, uh, 2... Nissan, uh, Datsun. It was a... Back when it was Datsun.

Ralph Barbosa 51:29 Datsun.

Joe Rogan 51:30 Datsun 240s. And turns them into these fucking sick, streamlined sports cars with, like, wider tires, much more horsepower, super lightweight. It's...

Ralph Barbosa 51:40 See, I'd like to do that.

Joe Rogan 51:41 Oh, it's so exciting. I love Japanese sports cars because you get the best of both worlds. You get performance and reliability. Like, if you get, like, a GTR, those are, like, o- one of the most reliable cars you can buy, and it's ridiculously fast. That's my shit right there, son.

Ralph Barbosa 52:01 I, uh...

Joe Rogan 52:02 That's what I have.

Ralph Barbosa 52:03 You ever take it to the track?

Joe Rogan 52:04 Um, I have not taken the GTR to a track.

Ralph Barbosa 52:07 Yeah, you got a Nismo, you gotta take it to a track, bro.

Joe Rogan 52:09 I kn- I know, but I've only been to a track a few times, and the last time I went, um, was a Corvette thing. I went with them. I'm, I'm... We're actually gonna build a, a track, um, rather a studio on the track.

Ralph Barbosa 52:21 Oh, yeah?

Joe Rogan 52:21 That's our, that's our next move. Yeah. We're gonna build a studio at COTA. So we're gonna have two studios. We're gonna have a regular studio here, and then we're gonna have a studio at the Circuit of the Americas.

Ralph Barbosa 52:31 That's fucking sick.

Joe Rogan 52:32 So we're gonna be able to take people around the track and then do a podcast right afterwards.

Ralph Barbosa 52:38 Hey, hire me as a driver.

Joe Rogan 52:39 Uh, can you drive? Are you good?

Ralph Barbosa 52:41 I do okay. I got the fastest lap time at Speed Vegas. You ever been there?

Joe Rogan 52:45 Did you really?

Ralph Barbosa 52:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:45 The fastest?

Ralph Barbosa 52:46 Yeah, for, like, a few hours and then some dude-

Joe Rogan 52:49 Oh.

Ralph Barbosa 52:49 ... beat me.

Joe Rogan 52:49 What were you driving?

Ralph Barbosa 52:50 Uh, Porsche GT3 RS.

Joe Rogan 52:52 Oh, okay.

Ralph Barbosa 52:53 I was competing against my, uh, cohost on the channel there, my buddy Luis. He's, uh, username_af on Instagram. Horrible username. But anyway, we both got the s- the same car, the Porsche, to, like, compare lap times.

Joe Rogan 53:06 Oh, nice.

Ralph Barbosa 53:06 But I had him beat by, like, eight seconds or something like that.

Joe Rogan 53:10 Well, he probably doesn't know how to drive it. Th- also those cars get a little scary.

Ralph Barbosa 53:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:13 The rear, rear engine.

Ralph Barbosa 53:15 I mean, you have an instructor just telling you what to do.

Joe Rogan 53:17 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 53:17 But I didn't-

Joe Rogan 53:18 You hit the gas harder?

Ralph Barbosa 53:20 Yeah, I broke a little later.

Joe Rogan 53:21 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 53:21 Hit the gas a little harder.

Joe Rogan 53:22 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 53:23 I almost spun out, but I, I wanted to find, like, the limit to the car.

Joe Rogan 53:27 Uh-huh.

Ralph Barbosa 53:27 Um, but yeah, on one, on my, like, second lap, I almost spun the car out, but I was able to keep it... (clicks tongue)

Joe Rogan 53:33 Yeah, those cars are just designed entirely for racing. That's a crazy car that you can get, a race car for the street. When we went... The last time we went to COTA, we went for a Corvette. So Corvette has the new ZR1 and, uh-

Ralph Barbosa 53:46 And, uh... It hol- it holds the record, right? At, at-

Joe Rogan 53:48 Yes.

Ralph Barbosa 53:49 ... at, uh, what track was it?

Joe Rogan 53:50 Nurburgring.

Ralph Barbosa 53:50 Nurburg, yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:51 It holds the record in basically every single track that it's ever entered into.

Ralph Barbosa 53:55 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 53:55 Yeah, they're just dis-... It's 1,000 horsepower from the factory. And then the record at Nurburgring that they did, which is the record only for American cars, it's, uh, for the ZR1X, I believe it's... I, I believe the time is 6:49, which is insanely fast, and it wasn't driven by a professional driver.

Ralph Barbosa 54:17 It was driven by the engineer, right?

Joe Rogan 54:19 Yes. The engineer broke the American lap time record. So everyone else is using Formula 1 drivers, they're using the sickest drivers on Earth to get the most amount of time. So a professional driver that I follow, this guy, uh, I forget his last name, Misha something or another, on YouTube, he analyzed the footage and he said, "You could shave 10 seconds off this."

Ralph Barbosa 54:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:40 Which is-

Ralph Barbosa 54:40 I've got it. That's-

Joe Rogan 54:41 ... crazy. Yeah, oh, here it goes. Pro driver says, "Corvette ZR1 could have gone 10 seconds faster at Nurburgring." Who is it that said that? Is it more than one pro driver said that... Yeah, Misha. This guy. This guy's great. I follow his-

Ralph Barbosa 54:53 Oh, I follow him.

Joe Rogan 54:54 Yes.

Ralph Barbosa 54:54 Yeah, he's a badass driver.

Joe Rogan 54:54 What is his, uh, channel called? Let's give him a shout-out, young Jamie.

Ralph Barbosa 54:58 10 seconds in the world of racing, that's like a lot.

Joe Rogan 55:00 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 55:00 That's a- that's- that's a lot.

Joe Rogan 55:02 Uh, so it's Misha, M-I-S-H-A. And the last name, I don't know how to pronounce it, is C-H-R-O-U-D-I-N. Uh, Charr- Charroudin? How would you say that?

Ralph Barbosa 55:14 Uh...

Joe Rogan 55:15 Sharrudin?

Ralph Barbosa 55:15 Sharudeen?

Joe Rogan 55:16 Sharrudin? Uh, anyway. Cool guy, great channel. It's dope. So he analyzed it, and he drives that track all the time. Like his whole channel-

Ralph Barbosa 55:25 He takes people on rides at that track, right?

Joe Rogan 55:27 Oh, yeah. And he's a nasty driver. He drives wicked. It's fun watching him.

Ralph Barbosa 55:30 And he looks so calm too, man.

Joe Rogan 55:31 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 55:32 He- he's just hauling ass.

Joe Rogan 55:33 But he knows that track like the back of his hand. He's always at the Nürburgring. Like th- they do those track days on there all the time. So he drives a whole bunch of crazy cars, including GTRs, all kinds of crazy shit, different things that people have put together and modded. And so, it says, "With someone more comfortable with the car, he's like, uh, a sub six minute and 40 second time," which is what they achieved, "is relatively easy and possible," he would say. He said, "Maybe they've already done a lap with a pro driver and will release later when they find it necessary." So what Corvette likes to do, though, they like to do their lap times with the people who built the car, 'cause they feel like the people who built the car are like intimately connected. Instead of farming it off to some Formula 1 psychopath, get the actual guys who designed and engineered the car. And if these guys are breaking records... They're great drivers. Don't get me wrong. I drove with one of them, th- in, when we were at COTA.

Ralph Barbosa 56:29 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 56:30 Yeah. And I drove the car. I drove that ZR1. It's the best car I've ever driven in my life.

Ralph Barbosa 56:34 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 56:34 I've driven a lot of cars.

Ralph Barbosa 56:35 Takes corners badass?

Joe Rogan 56:36 It's insane. It's insane. It's got the power like an electric car. The acceleration is bananas. It's nuts. It's zero to 60 in under two seconds. It fucking flies.

Ralph Barbosa 56:49 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 56:50 It has massive downforce, huge wheels, sticky tires. And you're going around these corners, like you can't believe the amount of grip it has and the stability of it, the balance of it.

Ralph Barbosa 57:01 What kind of tires do they put on those?

Joe Rogan 57:03 Uh, they're Cup tires. Um, I don't know what the exact... Uh, I b- I believe they're... I don't wanna say, but I think they're Michelin Cups.

Ralph Barbosa 57:10 I wish I knew how to like fabricate my own suspension for cars.

Joe Rogan 57:14 Really? You'd wanna do all that?

Ralph Barbosa 57:16 Yeah. I wanna learn. I don't mean, I don't wanna make my own suspension. I kind of... I mean, maybe one day. I don't know. I do wanna learn how to fabricate other parts, easier parts. But I feel like m- all the cars I buy, that's like the- the most important thing to me, is like handling.

Joe Rogan 57:32 Oh, yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 57:33 I bought a, uh... Shout out to this dude. I'm gonna sh- I'm gonna shout out his page. He's got s- cool stuff on YouTube. Crusty, uh, what is it? C- Crusty Classics Garage? Let me make sure I'm getting that right. He, um, he sold me a 1973 Plymouth Barracuda, but it has a front end from a '71 Barracuda.

Joe Rogan 57:54 Oh, the nice front end.

Ralph Barbosa 57:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:55 Four headlights.

Ralph Barbosa 57:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:56 That's the front end.

Ralph Barbosa 57:57 Tha- that was bad.

Joe Rogan 57:58 That's the one.

Ralph Barbosa 57:59 That's the one, yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:59 That's the one. I have a '70.

Ralph Barbosa 58:01 He, uh, he LS swapped it. Look. That's the one.

Joe Rogan 58:03 Oh.

Ralph Barbosa 58:03 That's the one I bought.

Joe Rogan 58:04 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 58:05 I love that car.

Joe Rogan 58:06 But that looks like a '70. Oh, th- that's the original front end. That's the original front end before they swapped it out.

Ralph Barbosa 58:11 No, no, no, no. That's the, the-

Joe Rogan 58:12 '73.

Ralph Barbosa 58:13 ... '71 front end.

Joe Rogan 58:14 That's the '70... It looks, it looks like... No. That's not, because it only has one headlight on each side.

Ralph Barbosa 58:18 Oh, no, no, no. Yeah. No, you're right. That's the one they swapped it.

Joe Rogan 58:19 I think that's the '73.

Ralph Barbosa 58:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:21 Yeah, that's probably-

Ralph Barbosa 58:21 They wrecked into him. He had to swap it.

Joe Rogan 58:23 Oh, I see. I see.

Ralph Barbosa 58:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:25 My mom had a '71 when I was a kid.

Ralph Barbosa 58:27 What?

Joe Rogan 58:27 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 58:28 Dude, your mom was kicking ass.

Joe Rogan 58:29 (laughs) Yeah, it was pretty dope. Dope car. I learned how to drive on it.

Ralph Barbosa 58:33 That car, he LS swapped it, and the suspension is pretty tight. But, uh, when I got to... It has no speedometer. So when I got it to like what I assume is somewhere over 100, uh, yeah, the steering wheel became a little scary.

Joe Rogan 58:47 Oh, they're super loose.

Ralph Barbosa 58:47 It became a little too sensitive. The front end is so like light.

Joe Rogan 58:51 Well, it's also the steering sucks. Their- their steering was so vague.

Ralph Barbosa 58:55 Well, he had, he- he has like aftermarket on it. Like I just... I don't know what all he did to it. I gotta take a deeper look into it. I bought it and then just hauled ass back to Dallas.

Joe Rogan 59:04 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 59:04 And once I got on, uh, once I got on the highway closer to my house, a Camry was getting cocky. So I was just like, "Nah, I gotta show them this is-"

Joe Rogan 59:12 A Camry?

Ralph Barbosa 59:12 Yeah. But he-

Joe Rogan 59:14 A Camry was getting cocky? Oh, that looks great with that '71 front end. That '71 front end is gorgeous.

Ralph Barbosa 59:19 Yeah, look. That's, I think that's when we bought it

Narrator 59:21 (engine revving)

Ralph Barbosa 59:21 ... a little while back.

Joe Rogan 59:21 My friend Brigham has a '71. It's badass. It's so nice.

Ralph Barbosa 59:25 This dude, uh, has everything LS swapped. He has people sending him work from like other states even.

Joe Rogan 59:30 Really?

Ralph Barbosa 59:31 Yeah. This dude does good work.

Joe Rogan 59:32 But he LS swapped into a Barracuda? Ooh.

Ralph Barbosa 59:35 Yeah. No. That's a, like more blasphemy, like the-

Joe Rogan 59:38 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 59:38 ... like the thing we did with the Skyline, like...

Joe Rogan 59:40 Um, you wanna see the dopest Barracuda you've ever seen?

Ralph Barbosa 59:42 Yeah. Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:43 Jamie, pull up mine.

Ralph Barbosa 59:44 (laughs) Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 59:45 I, I had one made by Roadster Shop. This is the craziest Barracuda ever. This thing-

Ralph Barbosa 59:49 Roadster, they make the frames and shit, right?

Joe Rogan 59:50 They make everything.

Ralph Barbosa 59:51 Damn.

Joe Rogan 59:52 They, they did everything. And they put a, a- (clears throat) they put a racing engine in it, a Mercury racing engine in it.

Ralph Barbosa 59:57 Bam.

Joe Rogan 59:58 So it's like a 9,000 RPM racing engine.

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:01 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 1:00:01 Oh, it's nasty. It's so crazy. This is my-

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:05 That's it?

Joe Rogan 1:00:05 Yeah. That's my car. This thing is bonkers. And it's got a roll cage in it. It's all like, the interior's gorgeous. (engine revving) But it's six-speed manual transmission, but it sounds like an exotic car. (engine revving)

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:28 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:33 America. Fuck yeah. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:40 (laughs) Hey, you got one cup holder?

Joe Rogan 1:00:42 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:42 Me too.

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 Yeah. Fuck everybody else.

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:44 Se- my, my interior doesn't look as nice as that one, but...

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 (laughs) Two cup holders get in the way.

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:48 (laughs) That's the one thing Barracudas have in common (laughs) is the, the cup holder.

Joe Rogan 1:00:51 Yeah. Well, that's k- all, the interior's totally different than the original.

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:54 I think you're sick, bro. You have that.

Joe Rogan 1:00:55 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:56 You got a Nismo. You have good taste.

Joe Rogan 1:00:58 ... yeah, I like stuff.

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:58 What's your gayest car?

Joe Rogan 1:01:00 The gayest car?

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:00 Yeah. What's your, what's your car that you just love?

Joe Rogan 1:01:02 I, I guess my Tesla.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:03 Your Tesla. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:03 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:04 Yeah, that one, that one takes the cake.

Joe Rogan 1:01:06 I mean, if you want to ask the average person, but I love it. I drove that today. That thing's awesome.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:11 Yeah? That's your daily driver? Your usual go-to?

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 Yeah, I drive it all, I drive it all the time. It's, it's a Model S Plaid, and it's also, uh, it's customized. So this company called Unplugged Performance, they take a Model S and then they put carbon fiber fenders on it, wider track, w- wider tires, upgraded suspension, change the interior.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:30 Nice. Hey, do you have tinted windows?

Joe Rogan 1:01:32 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:32 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 1:01:32 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:33 Nobody ever recognizes you in traffic?

Joe Rogan 1:01:34 People recognize me. Yeah, it happens.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:36 Yeah? They're like, "What the fuck?"

Joe Rogan 1:01:37 Usually they say hi.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:38 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 1:01:38 They're like, "Hey, what's up?"

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:39 You don't get weirdos? I feel like you get the most weirdos out of anybody.

Joe Rogan 1:01:42 You get, you get some weirdos, but most people are nice.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:44 Most, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:45 Most people, the most people in the world, the reason why you can get on the highway and no one's just slamming into each other, and the reason why you can go to the mall and everyone's not stamping, trampeding, stampeding over people, it's 'cause most people are nice.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:57 Yeah. Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:01:57 Most people are cool.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:58 Most people are cool until they start, you know, running out of women and resources.

Joe Rogan 1:02:02 Right. Incels.

Ralph Barbosa 1:02:03 Incels.

Joe Rogan 1:02:04 They get dangerous. They get on the meth, incels, they get radicalized online. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 1:02:08 Yeah, don't do drugs. Take care of your bodies.

Joe Rogan 1:02:11 What are the tires on the Corvette, Jamie? Do we look, do we find out what they are?

Narrator 1:02:14 Uh, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:02:15 They're s- super sticky.

Ralph Barbosa 1:02:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:17 You, you drive it, you'll go, you'll go insane. It's the greatest car ever.

Ralph Barbosa 1:02:20 Tires make a big difference, man.

Joe Rogan 1:02:21 Huge difference. But it's also the mid, mid-engine. When they switched the Corvette architecture from that front engine design from the C7 to the C8, um, Michelin cu- yeah, there it is, Pilot Sport 4S. And I think you could use cup tires too, I think. I think it's an option.

Ralph Barbosa 1:02:39 Mid-engine cars, they seem to be dominating on tracks, huh?

Joe Rogan 1:02:42 Well, the balance is so good. When you have that balance of the engine in front of the rear wheels, first of all, you have massive amounts of traction because all that weight is back there. There's always a problem with that front engine.

Ralph Barbosa 1:02:54 The only time I think the front engine can beat, like, a mid-engine thing, I think is if, like, the track, it has different, uh, elevations. Like, uh, like, what is it? Like, Laguna Seca, I think has, like, a huge downhill, uphill thing.

Joe Rogan 1:03:07 Oh, where it helps you to have the front engine bias?

Ralph Barbosa 1:03:09 Yeah, I think, I mean, I'd imagine that's the only place it probably can make a difference.

Joe Rogan 1:03:13 I think-

Ralph Barbosa 1:03:13 'Cause, like, when you're coming, uh, what is it? Like... Ah, man, I think I saw a video on it one time and I didn't have the volume up 'cause my kid was asleep, but I'm pretty sure that's what they were talking about. Like, uh, what are, you know on the, on the side of the track they have, like, the, like, the stripes, the red and white?

Joe Rogan 1:03:29 Mm-hmm, yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:03:29 And sometimes you go over there?

Joe Rogan 1:03:30 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 1:03:30 You know how sometimes... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:31 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:03:32 So if you're going off of one of those and you're also going downhill, I'd imagine you'd want, like, a front engine. I think you'd get the grip faster as you're coming down.

Joe Rogan 1:03:45 Hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 1:03:45 Whereas, if the motor was in the back, I think you'd have to kinda catch your balance a little more than a front engine.

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 Well, it's-

Ralph Barbosa 1:03:51 I could be wrong, though, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:03:52 The motor's in the middle. See, that's the thing. The motor in the back with a Porsche, you have to learn how to use that pendulum effect as you're driving, you know? But, but the guys who are really good at it, though, they use it to their effect. Like, they steer with the throttle. So, like, as they're turning, they're s- they're hitting the gas, the ass end is kicking out, and then they're, they're modulating it, and then they're going straight.

Ralph Barbosa 1:04:10 Mm.

Joe Rogan 1:04:11 So the guys that are really good at driving Porsches, it's pretty beautiful to watch 'cause they just know how to use that rear engine bias. But the thing about the Corvette and also the Cayman, the Cayman GT4, which is another amazing mid-engine car, is that engine in front of the rear whee- wheel, in the center of the car. Makes the car perfectly balanced.

Ralph Barbosa 1:04:32 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:04:32 You just feel so confident. Even when the tires break, you feel really confident that this car is under control. And the Corvette has so much downforce. It's so well engineered. I mean, these guys gave us, before they let us drive, me and Hinchcliffe went down there, and before they let us drive, they gave us, like, this full tour de force explanation of the engineering involved in this car and what the goal was. It's the most ridiculous production car that any American company's ever put out, by far.

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:00 The more you get into cars, the more you get into, like, physics and balance.

Joe Rogan 1:05:04 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:04 It starts off as like, "Oh, shit, like, 340 horsepower."

Joe Rogan 1:05:08 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:08 "And 400 pound-feet of torque." And then later on, you're just like, "Dude, that thing is so balanced."

Joe Rogan 1:05:12 Yes, balance is everything. And really, for thrills, if you really want to enjoy a car, uh, enjoy a car, it's not about how fast you go. Like, this whole lap time thing, it's cool because if you like going on a track, and I do like going on a track, it's fun. And it's fun to have a car that's really good at moving around a track and driving fast. But in the real world, what you want is sensory experiences. That's what you want out of a car. You want-

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:39 What do you mean? Sensory experiences?

Joe Rogan 1:05:40 You wanna hear the sound.

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:42 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:05:42 You wanna feel the gears as you're shifting. You wanna push the clutch in and pop that sucker into third and let off the clutch as you hit the gas. You wanna smell it. You wanna feel it. You wanna re- really, you want a manual transmission and a manual steering. You don't even want power-assisted steering. So you want a light car, like an early 911. If you really wanna feel, like, what's the ultimate thrill of driving, it's a really well-sorted-out, air-cooled 911.

Ralph Barbosa 1:06:15 Air-cooled 911?

Joe Rogan 1:06:16 Oh, those old Porsches are so light. You can get them for, like, 2,000 pounds and they strip things out of them.

Ralph Barbosa 1:06:23 Oh, those are, like, stupid expensive now, right?

Joe Rogan 1:06:25 Yeah, they are now. But it depends on which model. You can still get some models, like the G-body models, they're pre- pretty reasonable until people start realizing that and they start scooping them up too.

Ralph Barbosa 1:06:35 Yeah, these-

Joe Rogan 1:06:36 But there's some, some that don't look quite as good, but fuck what it looks like. Get that out of your head. What you want is-

Ralph Barbosa 1:06:42 Just drive.

Joe Rogan 1:06:42 ... just experience the car. Like, when you drive, like, a, a, you can get, like, a 19... Let's find out what a... How much is a 1982 911 cost? Let's see if we can find one that's available.

Ralph Barbosa 1:06:55 I hate that I, I just recently started getting into Porsches and I like, I hate that I like them now.

Joe Rogan 1:07:00 They're great.

Ralph Barbosa 1:07:01 They are. They're really... But they're so-

Joe Rogan 1:07:02 They're good.

Ralph Barbosa 1:07:02 But they're so expensive.

Joe Rogan 1:07:03 They're so expensive.

Ralph Barbosa 1:07:04 But they're also, they're also good investments.

Joe Rogan 1:07:06 Yeah, they're worth more money after you buy them than they are when you buy them.

Ralph Barbosa 1:07:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:09 They're, this is one of the rare cars that will continue. Okay, there's a beautiful one. That one's pretty expensive.

Ralph Barbosa 1:07:14 Oh, yeah, those are sick.

Joe Rogan 1:07:15 That one's 70 grand. That seems like somebody has, uh, put some...... they probably put some work into that one. What does it say in terms of what's been done to it?

Narrator 1:07:25 It only has 100 miles on it.

Joe Rogan 1:07:25 Oh, my God. It only has 100 miles on it?

Narrator 1:07:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:28 That's crazy.

Ralph Barbosa 1:07:29 You know when I first started m- making money, I, I felt like I was buying cars like that, that were more like collector type. But now my garage is so different, 'cause I, I, I don't like that.

Joe Rogan 1:07:40 Jamie, no, go back to that.

Ralph Barbosa 1:07:41 I like to fucking put miles on 'em.

Joe Rogan 1:07:43 Yeah, no, I hear you, but this is nuts. To find an '82 Porsche with that, um, that low amount of miles? That's crazy. 100 miles?

Ralph Barbosa 1:07:51 I would LS it. I'd buy it and LS it.

Joe Rogan 1:07:53 (laughs)

Narrator 1:07:56 Really?

Ralph Barbosa 1:07:58 Hey, look, I got one of those, but not that year. Go back up, Jim. Yeah, skyline right there.

Joe Rogan 1:08:02 Oh, yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:08:03 Yeah. I got a different one, though. I got a ...

Joe Rogan 1:08:05 What one do you have?

Ralph Barbosa 1:08:06 I have a, the 1971 Hakosuka.

Joe Rogan 1:08:09 Oh, really?

Ralph Barbosa 1:08:09 Yeah, it's an original. But that, that car, that's one of those cars that I'm like, "I don't know if I should keep it or not," 'cause it's, it's so valuable, as long as I don't fuck with it too much.

Joe Rogan 1:08:17 Oh, it's an investment. If I w- if I had that car, if I was you, I'd just keep that sucker well maintained, don't drive it anywhere, hold onto it, enjoy it. That'll be worth a million dollars someday.

Ralph Barbosa 1:08:27 Ah, I don't know, I think I'm gonna LS it.

Joe Rogan 1:08:30 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 1:08:31 No, I wouldn't LS it, but-

Joe Rogan 1:08:33 Does it have, does it have the original engine in it right now?

Ralph Barbosa 1:08:34 The original engine, yep.

Joe Rogan 1:08:36 Oh, man. I wouldn't fuck with it if I was you.

Ralph Barbosa 1:08:37 It, it still smells like the Japanese dude who used to drive it to work.

Joe Rogan 1:08:40 This is crazy, that this car only has 100 miles on it. So, that car is not gonna be fast in comparison to a modern car, but boy, will you enjoy driving it. That is an enjoyable car. You drive that car, you feel everything. Y- y- it's like you're in a ride.

Ralph Barbosa 1:08:56 I don't, I don't know what year they started doing this, but they have a ...

Joe Rogan 1:08:58 Oh, it says has 8,000 miles on it.

Narrator 1:09:00 90,000, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:02 What?

Narrator 1:09:02 I, so I didn't, I didn't look it up.

Ralph Barbosa 1:09:03 Oh, 100 miles on the new engine, maybe.

Joe Rogan 1:09:05 No, no, no, 8,475, Jamie.

Narrator 1:09:10 8-

Ralph Barbosa 1:09:10 Right?

Narrator 1:09:10 7-5-8?

Joe Rogan 1:09:11 Is that, is that the last one? Is that up to the next mile? Do w- when that goes over-

Narrator 1:09:16 Usually it's a different-

Joe Rogan 1:09:16 ... to zero, does that make a six?

Narrator 1:09:17 Usually it's a different number or a different color or something.

Joe Rogan 1:09:19 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 1:09:20 Oh.

Narrator 1:09:21 Those cars tracked up to 100,000, right? Yeah, or maybe not. Maybe it's 9,000.

Joe Rogan 1:09:25 Mm, like, does it go six, seven, eight, nine, 60? Does it do that?

Narrator 1:09:30 I don't know. It's just not, it's not 100,000 for sure.

Ralph Barbosa 1:09:31 Hey, that's still not bad. What year is it, '82?

Joe Rogan 1:09:34 So, either way. Yeah, if it's an '82, but that doesn't make any sense. Why ... Oh, i- I think they're saying it has 100 miles on a rebuilt engine.

Ralph Barbosa 1:09:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:40 Let's see what it says.

Narrator 1:09:41 I think it says something's fully restored. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:42 Fully restored, that's it.

Ralph Barbosa 1:09:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:44 Okay.

Narrator 1:09:44 No miles.

Joe Rogan 1:09:45 Original engine, trans fully restored, no miles. Okay, so it only has 100 miles on the original, or the engine that's been fully restored. Okay, that makes more sense. So it's got a l- they're lying, then. You can't say it has 100 miles-

Ralph Barbosa 1:09:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:09:58 ... 'cause then all the trans, all the other shit, like the suspension, everything else is, got all those miles on it.

Ralph Barbosa 1:10:04 Fine tuning. The-

Joe Rogan 1:10:04 Unless you swapped out every fucking component in the car.

Ralph Barbosa 1:10:07 They, they have a weird, uh, the transmission. I don't know what year they started doing this.

Joe Rogan 1:10:13 Oh, the dog leg? When it, down to one?

Ralph Barbosa 1:10:15 No, no. Well, e- the thing, it just feels different. Like, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:10:18 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 1:10:18 ... I forgot, I forgot what it, what it w- was. My buddy bought one, the guy I run the channel with, Luis. So, this is like, the cheapest Porsche ever, but it looks so good. He made a whole YouTube thing about it, like, he made videos on it. He got this Porsche for like, I think it was like 3,200 bucks, 3,600 bucks or something off Facebook. The dude was like, "Yeah, it's, it's an '07 Porsche." He's like, "I- the motor's kaputz, it's, it's no good." So my buddy goes to check it out and it has a knocking in it, and the, and the paint is just real ugly. And, uh, he buys it. He's like, "Fuck it. I'm gonna just take the chance. Maybe, maybe it's simple fix." And, uh, he takes it to our buddy, Brian, back in, uh, Fort Worth, to get it painted. So now the paint is just brand new, but the motor still knocks. And, uh, my dad pulls up to that same shop that same day to get a truck painted. And he's like, "Oh, what's up, Luis?" And they decide to race the trucks, an Opel versus the Porsche. And Luis floors it, and after he floors it, the knocking goes away. Just never came back. And the motor just runs fine.

Joe Rogan 1:11:22 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 1:11:22 So he just came up on like, the cheapest Porsche.

Joe Rogan 1:11:25 Do you have a video of this? Is it online?

Ralph Barbosa 1:11:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It, bro, it's all over, like, can you pull it up on the Formula Bean YouTube again? Um, it has to be on there. Like-

Joe Rogan 1:11:33 That's crazy.

Ralph Barbosa 1:11:34 Yeah. And, uh, uh, uh, the only thing other than that I think was like, the wheel alignment, or like, it was like, shaky or whatever. But I think the, uh, I think what he said what it was was the tires had been sitting for so long that they kinda like, flapped.

Joe Rogan 1:11:44 Oh, they're probably scary.

Ralph Barbosa 1:11:45 Yeah, so he just-

Joe Rogan 1:11:45 You shouldn't drive on old tires, man.

Ralph Barbosa 1:11:47 Yeah, but he just switched them out. It's like, fucking no problem. Look.

Narrator 1:11:50 ... whenever you, when your engines make noise. And that is, race a car.

Joe Rogan 1:11:53 Oh, it's a Cayman.

Ralph Barbosa 1:11:55 After the race, it stopped making the noises.

Narrator 1:11:58 Let's change the oil and see what we find.

Ralph Barbosa 1:12:01 That's after