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Studio warm-up: magnets, UFO toys, and Travis Walton’s abduction story
- JRJoe Rogan
(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) What's up, y'all?
- JRJoe Rogan
So, let's go. What are you doing? Are we playing with magnets?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah, man. I'm checking out all your toys. What'd you say this guy's name is? Travis?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's Travis Walton.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Travis.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he's, he's a guy that got abducted, allegedly, by, uh, some sort of a UFO in the 1970s, and, uh, the story was so crazy that it became a movie. It's called Fire In The Sky. And I don't know, like I said, I don't know if he's telling the truth, but it's very compelling. He doesn't seem like a liar, and he's been telling the exact same story for 40-plus years.
- RBRalph Barbosa
I think he's telling the truth.
- JRJoe Rogan
You think so?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know anybody, uh, per- I mean, personally, I don't know anybody who's kept up a lie for that long.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clicks tongue) There's gotta be someone. Gotta be someone that's like... I, I think people can make a story up and then only keep that s- that lie. Usually, generally, when people lie about stuff, they'll lie about a bunch of stuff, especially something that crazy. "They took me aboard a UFO and they fixed me." So this is the story. The story was... These guys were all loggers in Arizona, and so they're driving down this logging road and they see some crazy light in the sky and it goes into this area. They pull off to the side of the road. They walk towards it and there's this disc that's, like, hovering, this glowing disc. He walks towards it and he got really close to it and he got hit with a beam of light, and he falls back. Like, that's- The art. ... supposedly what it looked like. That's the art of it. That's the art, the art depiction of it, what these guys saw. He gets hit with this beam of light and they take off. They're like, "Fuck!" And they did jump back in the truck and take off. He's lying on the ground, and they get, like, five minutes away and they're yelling at each other. "We gotta go back. We gotta go get him." They were scared. And so they're like, "Fuck it. Let's go back." So they go back to go get their friend and he's gone. So, five days later, there's, you know, there's a manhunt for him. Nobody can find him. Five days later, he shows up, walks into town. He's fully... It doesn't look like he's starving to death. He's not out of water. Doesn't look like he's been living in the woods. It just looks like he, uh, just, like, a normal day and he tells this crazy story. He tells this story that he got abducted. They took him aboard this craft and fixed his body 'cause the beam of light that came out of the ship from w- whatever, whatever it was, whatever energy source it was, fucked his body up. They repaired it and they communicated with him telepathically while they were on the ship. I forget all the details of it, but-
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yo, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
... this is, this is the film of it. But this is supposedly what he said the experience was like. He said it was terrifying. And he described... The thing that, that's crazy is that they all describe the same exact creatures. They describe these little-
- RBRalph Barbosa
Who is they?
- JRJoe Rogan
People that get abducted.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Oh.
- 3:06 – 5:54
‘Close encounters’ classifications and abduction movies as cultural shorthand
- JRJoe Rogan
People that have had UFO experiences, anybody that's had direct contact. Did you ever see that movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Mm-mm. I saw that movie The Fourth Kind when I was in middle school.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's that one? Is that an abduction one-
- RBRalph Barbosa
Where they, I think-
- JRJoe Rogan
... where they come get ya?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah, it's like a... Man, I only watched it once. It scared the shit outta me. I think people go under, like, hypnosis and they re- they remember what their abduction was like or something like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm. Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah. Don't quote me on that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the third kind, I think, is contact. I think close encounters of the first kind is, like, you see it. I don't know what the second kind is. This is, like, a list of the kinds. "The Fourth Kind derived, explains J. Allen Hynek's classification of close encounters with aliens. The Fourth Kind denotes alien abductions." Dun-dun-dun.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah, yeah, that one.
- JRJoe Rogan
I feel like-
- RBRalph Barbosa
I like how we talk about aliens like it's, like, feeling on a girl, like second base.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) First taste.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Like, yo, did you get to the fourth kind?
- JRJoe Rogan
Get to fourth base. She takes you home. Yeah. It's-
- RBRalph Barbosa
Nah, but his, his friends, they, they're... Like, his friends that left them, that left him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
I mean, they saw it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
So how s-
- JRJoe Rogan
They all have the same story.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Has to be real. I don't think you're gonna convince these guys.
- JRJoe Rogan
Probably not, but maybe you could. It's like, it's not impossible. It's not like they... It's like breathing underwater. That's impossible, right? Okay. Flapping your wings at the top of a cliff, you fly away. That's impossible. Keeping a lie is possible. It's not likely. It doesn't make sense. Doesn't make sense why they... One of the reasons why it doesn't make sense is Travis and one of the guys in the truck had gotten into a fistfight that same day. Like, they didn't like each other. They hate each other. They're workers. They're just coworkers. You know, logging is hard fucking work, man. You're, you're cutting trees and carrying trees and it's back-breaking, brutal labor, and you get hard men. H- loggers are bad motherfuckers, man. My friend Evan, his whole family is from loggers. Um, and they're just... He's like, "They are the hardest fucking people you've ever met in your life." Just hard men. Like, d- d- doing this shit deep into their 60s and 70s, carrying logs. Just, just a different breed of human being. So, uh, they fucking didn't get along and they got in a fistfight that day.
- RBRalph Barbosa
So why lie for him?
- JRJoe Rogan
And that... Why would you lie for him?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly. Why would you lie for him?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah. These are hardworking men, Joe Rogan. They don't need to lie.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're savages.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah.
- 5:54 – 12:35
D.B. Cooper: skyjacking mystery and whether the escape plan was genius or chaos
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I got DB Cooper li- later. Who, who was the guy that was the, uh, the actor?
- NANarrator
Uh-
- RBRalph Barbosa
DB Sweeney?
- JRJoe Rogan
DB Sweeney. That's right. DB Cooper was the guy that stole the money and jumped out-
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the plane.
- RBRalph Barbosa
DB Cooper?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's how I get them confused. Yeah. You never heard that story?
- RBRalph Barbosa
He's... Was he the guy wanted by the FBI?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
He's, like, a top 10 wanted or something like that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah. He stole a bunch of money, and then hijacked an airplane, and then jumped out of the airplane with the money.
- RBRalph Barbosa
And he, he died? Like, they found the body and everything?
- JRJoe Rogan
Probably.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Or he... (laughs) Or was it, like, a mysterious, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a mysterious thing.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Oh, shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
You never heard that story?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Nah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's an interesting story. But the area the guy skydived into was heavily wooded. And the problem with that is, if you're a skydiver and you're in a parachute, and you, you go into a heavily wooded place, you're gonna land in the trees.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And-
- RBRalph Barbosa
And then you risk, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
... r- getting-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, just cutting yourself-
- RBRalph Barbosa
... impaled.
- JRJoe Rogan
... loose, also. Cutting yourself loose out of the trees. What if you're 30 feet up? How are you getting down?
- 12:35 – 21:16
From Cooper to combat stimulants: meth in WWII and drugs as battlefield tools
- RBRalph Barbosa
They say, they say Hitler was on meth too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Yeah, most likely. He was definitely on oxycodone, and, um, the- the actual Nazis were definitely on meth, for sure.
- RBRalph Barbosa
They gave Nazis meth?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, man. There's a great book... Is it out there?
- NANarrator
It's in the other room, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's in the other room. It's called Blitzed, um, by, um... How do you pronounce his name?
- NANarrator
Or, uh... Norman Ohler.
- JRJoe Rogan
Norman Oh- Ohler, right?
- NANarrator
Ohler, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ohler. Norman Ohler. Uh, great guest too. He was amazing. Um, but he wrote this book about all the meth they took during World War II. It's all about, like, the most meth they gave to the people in the tanks-
- RBRalph Barbosa
Wait, wait, so he was a Nazi that wrote a book?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a researcher. How dare you?
- RBRalph Barbosa
I wanna read a book by a Nazi.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the book. Well, you'd have to read, like, Mein Kampf, and you have to read it with, like, a book cover on so people don't think you're a psycho.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Well, I mean, we gotta know what they were thinking, you know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RBRalph Barbosa
People should read it, 'cause-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the book. That book is great.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Blitzed. Yes, yes (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
So they, they were all on meth.
- RBRalph Barbosa
That's Hitler just all fucked up off meth.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, Hitler was definitely on oxycodone. He was on a bunch of other shit, and he had a doctor. It's a, it's a really good book. You should read it. It's very interesting, 'cause it- it lets you- it gives you a totally different insight into why they were behaving the way they behaved. Like the kamikazes, for instance.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, they flew their planes right into the ships. They were on meth.
- RBRalph Barbosa
What?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. That's why they did it.
- RBRalph Barbosa
But like, what kind of meth? Like, were they just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Crystal meth.
- 21:16 – 24:43
War, human nature, and Rogan’s ‘mandatory mushrooms’ thought experiment
- RBRalph Barbosa
So, I was watching this video where he explains like what led to World War II.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, interesting.
- RBRalph Barbosa
But he spends like 45 minutes talking about the hundreds of years before World War I even and how that kind of came to play.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
So, first he, like, first he explains how World War I came to play, because to understand why, why World War II happened, you gotta understand-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RBRalph Barbosa
... why, what caused World War I, you know. And, uh, I forgot where I was going with this. There was just a point to it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just history. History of war.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. So, uh, everything... I listened to it. I had to listen to it, like, three times 'cause, uh, you know, I just, I kept getting distracted and stuff. But it sounds so, like, sophisticated, and it makes sense if you listen to it all. I'm like, "Okay, I get why World War I happened now." Um, but then finding out that everybody was just, like, drunk and on meth the whole time just sounds like-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RBRalph Barbosa
It sounds like it just was such a bro-y idea to go to war. Like, it's all the sophistication behind it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well-
- RBRalph Barbosa
But then at the end, they were just like, "Fuck it. Let's just get fucked up while we're out there, though."
- JRJoe Rogan
But all those old-time English gentlemen, they all wanted to go to war. It was like you wanted to prove your courage in battle. You know, it was a, it was a, uh, it was a bro-y thing. It was almost like a frat boy thing.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Well, everybody wanted to conquer land back then, right? And just rule empires and shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- RBRalph Barbosa
I, I feel like we should go back to that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) What are you talking about?
- RBRalph Barbosa
No, I feel like stuff is too leisurely now. It's too comfortable.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's true. But we need to teach people that leisurely is not good for you. We, you don't need artificial... You know, you don't need the kind of conflict that's gonna ruin cities and kill people. And don't go back to that. That's stupid. We just need to understand how to manage the human body.
- RBRalph Barbosa
What do you mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Manage the body. Manage your brain and your body. That's the, the-
- RBRalph Barbosa
Are you saying everybody should work out to just eat healthier?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a, that's a mi- the mo- most minor interpretation of it.
- RBRalph Barbosa
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But we need to figure out a, a way to keep people from being aggressive and to keep people from being greedy and keep people from stealing resources. And we need to curb some of the worst aspects of human nature.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I think the only way to do that is mushrooms.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Everybody has to... Like, mandatory mushroom-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mandatory mushrooms.
- 24:43 – 27:40
AI fears: Oppenheimer parallels, deepfakes, and ‘build it before enemies do’ logic
- JRJoe Rogan
There's no cure, but we need to r-... We need t- to guide a larger percentage of people in the right direction, and that, like, worldwide would... That'd be the only way we save this, this experiment of the human race. The only other way is AI. AI is a way that might save us or make us obsolete.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yo, um, AI, that's some scary shit, 'cause I... (laughs) Uh, I wa-... (laughs) I don't know if it's real. I saw this video. I don't know h-... When, when it was shot or, like, how recent or not recent it is, because I just... I mean, all I'm watching is just Instagram Reels, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RBRalph Barbosa
So it's a minute at, at the longest. It's, like, a minute long. So this could be a m-... A minute from some movie from 2002.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. What is it?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Or it could've been recorded. But there's a video supposedly the, the... It said the godfather of AI warns people about the dangers of AI. But I'm like, "Why..." Like, if that's real, if, if whoever it was, like, behind AI, whatever team it was is like, "Hey, but be careful with this," it's like, why'd you make it, then? Like, I feel like they just did it to jerk themselves off, like a, like, a real Oppenheimer thing where he's like, "Now I become death, destroyer of world order."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RBRalph Barbosa
It's like, why'd you do it then? You know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's the same kinda thing in that you have to do it, because if you don't do it, your enemy's gonna do it. If your enemy's get ahold of it, the whole world is very different.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
The idea is that if America does it... America, we k-... We kinda suck in some ways. We suck with some of the things that we do with other countries. We suck with some of the ways we spend our taxes. But we're the best out there. We're the best option right now. This is the best way to run the world. It's the best way to behave in terms of, like, your freedoms, having as much freedom as possible. Th- th-... No countries have this combination of freedom of speech, First Amendment, Second Amendment. The... There's, there's a lot of rights that we have in this country that are just different than the whole rest of the world. I think it's the best way to do it, and we like to think of ourselves as being the most benevolent of all the superpowers. We're the best ones. The other ones are evil. They're communist. They're run by dictators. We're, we're trying v-... Like, that's why everybody's afraid of Trump being a dictator. We don't want any dictators in this country. So if we develop AI first, phew, we won. That's good. Just like we developed the nuclear bomb. We dropped a couple of 'em and said, "Now back the fuck off. We're done here. We don't wanna do this anymore," and then we never did it again.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
So that's good. Now, if Germany had developed the atomic bomb first and nuked Britain and nuked America and just went on a nuking spree before we could ever develop one-
- RBRalph Barbosa
You see the-
- JRJoe Rogan
... imagine how different the world would be.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah. You ever, you ever watch those videos, the AI videos of, like, two celebrities making out? It'll be like Elon Musk kissing, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Trump.
- RBRalph Barbosa
... Brad Pitt or some-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
... or Trump, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I've seen those. (laughs)
- RBRalph Barbosa
I feel like we had to make a couple of those and then tell the world like, "All right, now back the fuck off."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RBRalph Barbosa
We did that.
- 27:40 – 33:56
Nuclear testing fallout: John Wayne’s ‘The Conqueror’ and radiation consequences
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Do you know how many times they blew up atomic bombs for tests, though, after that? I'm learning more and more about that recently. I'm reading this new book right now, uh, by this guy Richard Dolan. He's a UFO researcher. And he's talking about one of the things that they were doing was, um... They were doing altitude detonations, so they were detonating these nuclear bombs 150 miles above Earth. They did a bunch of 'em. They did it, like, a bunch of times. And-
- RBRalph Barbosa
But then wasn't... Doesn't it stay in the air?
- JRJoe Rogan
They didn't even know. They were just experimenting and testing. There's a bunch of shit they did that is so wild. Do you know, like, John Wayne did a movie, um, in the Nevada desert near where the test sites were where they... They blew up, like, I don't know how many hundreds of fucking nuclear bombs out there. They blew up tons of nuclear bombs.
- RBRalph Barbosa
And then John Wayne just went out there and was like, "What's up?"
- JRJoe Rogan
The whole cast got cancer.
- RBRalph Barbosa
The whole cast?
- JRJoe Rogan
The whole cast got cancer. John Wayne died of cancer. Like, a giant percentage of the people that worked on that show, on that movie got cancer.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Imagine-
- JRJoe Rogan
See if you can find that, the results of that.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Imagine being on the team who's, like, sending the nukes into the air, and then you just kinda see, like, the cloud stay in the air. Like, I wonder who was the first guy to be like, "Ah, shit."
- JRJoe Rogan
They didn't even understand it then.
- RBRalph Barbosa
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, no one had been... No one had been subject to large-scale radiation before. It, it was a new thing, especially from a detonation. It had never happened before. There was no meltdowns yet. There was no Three Mile Island or Fukushima yet. Uh, 1980 article in People magazine reported that out of the 220 cast and crew members, 91 had contacted cancer, contracted cancer, with 46 deaths. Led to the film being dubbed an RKO radioactive picture. The controversy surrounding the film location and subsequent health issues has been a point of discussion and debate amongst historians and scientists. But yeah, like, the amount of bombs that they detonated is-
- RBRalph Barbosa
Was it a good movie at least?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think it was. It might've been that Genghis Khan movie.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Oh, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Was it the Genghis Khan movie?
- NANarrator
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it was a piece of shit.
- RBRalph Barbosa
What is that movie rated on Rotten Tomatoes? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, it has to be a zero. It's so bad.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Oh, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's John Wayne playing a Mongolian, which is the craziest thing of all time.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Ah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was the ultimate whitewashing.
- RBRalph Barbosa
(laughs) He's doing Mongolian face?
- JRJoe Rogan
And he talks like this. 10% on Rotten Tomatoes. (laughs)
- RBRalph Barbosa
This is what you got cancer for, John Wayne? Come on, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro... No, he got cancer for the worst... The Conqueror. And look how hot she is. She's, like, completely European-looking, his girlfriend. Like, play some of this 'cause it's so stupid. Yeah, fall off the horse. (instrumental music plays) Look how hot she is. Woo.
- RBRalph Barbosa
She's all impressed by him.
- 33:56 – 37:58
Autism, ‘spectrum’ identity, and the social pull of labels
- RBRalph Barbosa
I actually wanna write a self-help book, but not like a real one. Like a, maybe like a joke one, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
But something that... I don't think my standup comedy would ever get me canceled, but I think maybe, like, a book. But I wanna call it something like, like, I don't know. Like, You're Not Autistic, You're Just 25 and, Like, an Asshole or something like that. And then j-... The whole book just tell people, like, "Get off your ass, man. Like, stop making excuses."
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you do for actual autistic people that read that book, though? They're like, "Hey, he says I'm not autistic."
- RBRalph Barbosa
(laughs) I'm gonna be like, "You're not autistic then believe what you want."
- JRJoe Rogan
How many people do you think are autistic? What percentage?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Um, I don't know. I feel like probably a lot, but I think there's, like, there's, like, aut-
- JRJoe Rogan
You think a bunch of people are saying they're autistic so that they get, like, extra credit?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah, I think it's, like, it's... I think it's like being, like, like, what do you call it? Like, Apache or whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, where you lie?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Or, like, Cherokee.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Where you're just like, "Oh, yeah, I'm, like, one-eighth."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah (laughs) .
- RBRalph Barbosa
Some... Like, it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, "I'm one-eighth au- autistic."
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
"I'm kind of psychic."
- RBRalph Barbosa
Oh, yeah. Like, so I think if you come up on the spectrum, it doesn't mean that you're, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RBRalph Barbosa
... enough-
- JRJoe Rogan
Full-blown.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah. Like, you, you've seen people with, like, full-blown autism.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right.
- RBRalph Barbosa
And the struggles they have to go through in life.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Like, somebody has to be in their life. You know what I mean? Like, to-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, for non-verbal people. Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah. Or, like, just whatever. But you can't, like, be a, a, a, a, a... You can't just, like, wake up, you know, play video games, go do stuff on your own, and then, like, use autism as an excuse for other stuff you don't wanna do. Like, "Oh, I didn't wanna shake that guy's hand 'cause I'm just, like, autistic." Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 37:58 – 44:16
Stem cells and Type 1 diabetes reversal: excitement, logistics, and risk tradeoffs
- NANarrator
I'm not, I'm not like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know-
- NANarrator
I'm diabetic. I never tell people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Are you full-blown diabetic, like-
- NANarrator
Full-blown.
- JRJoe Rogan
... Type 1?
- NANarrator
Not like, not like with the autism thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not the food stuff?
- NANarrator
Yeah, Type 1.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, so you're born with it?
- NANarrator
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- NANarrator
I got it when I was like six.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Type 1 when you're six. That's crazy.
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, they just cured Type 1 diabetes in a w- woman with stem cells.
- NANarrator
What?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It was, uh, the first of its kind. I... Was it China that did this? See if you can find it, Jamie. Um, but yeah, you know, they're, they're using stem cells to try to treat all sorts of different things, and one of the things that they were really successful was with this lady, they cured, for the first time ever, Type 1 diabetes.
- NANarrator
How do they give you the stem cells?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a good question.
- NANarrator
Do you smoke it in a pipe?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. I think they inject it into you. Um, but-
- NANarrator
That's not too bad.
- JRJoe Rogan
But if this... I mean, you might not have to take insulin. Do you take insulin right now?
- NANarrator
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You might not have to take insulin. They might be able to fix you.
- NANarrator
How do I get these stem cells?
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's see what it says. What is the, the...
- 44:16 – 47:37
Creative slump and ‘The War of Art’: resisting resistance as a comedian
- RBRalph Barbosa
(laughs) Nah. Honestly, I could use something life changing. I got like writer's block real bad right now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you?
- RBRalph Barbosa
I don't know what to talk ... Yeah. I'm like un- ... I'm like unmotivated with new stand-up. I was reading that book you got out there. I never-
- JRJoe Rogan
The War of Art?
- RBRalph Barbosa
No, no, no, no. Um ... Oh, the Hunter S. Thompson book?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah. Hunter S. Thompson was a dude or that was a chick?
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't know who Hunter S. Thompson is?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Nah. But I kinda-
- JRJoe Rogan
How dare you.
- RBRalph Barbosa
... have heard of Thompson's work through ... I read in the bef- like, before the book actually starts, it's like other books by Hunter S. Thompson.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
And, uh ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that sounds-
- RBRalph Barbosa
And, uh, what is it? Rum Diaries or something?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep. Yep.
- RBRalph Barbosa
So, it's a dude. All right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Nah, that dude's good.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RBRalph Barbosa
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ. What did you take before you came here? Like something-
- RBRalph Barbosa
Nothing. I just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Something happ- ... You're on sleeping pills or something? What the fuck is going on?
- RBRalph Barbosa
No, man. I'm sober. I just woke up and came here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, yeah. Hunter S. Thompson's a very famous writer from the counterculture movement.
- RBRalph Barbosa
He, he wrote this paragraph in that book, man. And, um ...
- JRJoe Rogan
That was Johnny Depp, he played him in that movie.
- 47:37 – 50:25
Ralph’s car obsession and Formula Bean: chaotic builds, learning, and content creation
- RBRalph Barbosa
Well, like, I, I have this thing where like I can't help but to like obsess on a subject and lose a lot of interest in another subject or other subjects. But like, I, like ... I mean, I ... Yeah. I choose what I like or whatever, you know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
But like, to a degree. That make sense?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- RBRalph Barbosa
So like, it's like chasing butterflies. Like sometimes it's like that yellow butterfly, like I just gotta keep fucking, fucking with this butterfly right here. And there's so many other butterflies around. But then sometimes it's the blue one. So, like comedy is like the blue butterfly and then like other shit is like other butterflies. I started an automotive YouTube channel with my buddy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, okay.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah. It's not super big, but it's so fun. And it's just like little challenges that I find in it, you know? Like, learn this, learn how to do that, learn how to do this.
- JRJoe Rogan
And the automotive in terms of like repairing stuff? Like what are you-
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah. We put a ... We got a 1989 240SX. It's my buddy's car. He bought it for like 600 bucks. And, uh, he wants to put an LS in it. But before putting the LS in it, he wanted to blow up the original motor, so we put nitrous and turbo on it, but without tuning it.... so there's, there's no computer telling it, like, how to do it safely-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RBRalph Barbosa
... or, or, like, efficiently. So, it's just, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
God.
- RBRalph Barbosa
And, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
How'd that go?
- RBRalph Barbosa
... we didn't blow up the motor. We blew up the coupler for the turbo, though. It's all, like... And the motor sucks now. Like, it won't stay on, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
So this is a Nissan?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah, an '89 Nissan 240.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, wow.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah, yeah. It's, it's a horrible grade car.
- JRJoe Rogan
Why'd you choose that year?
- RBRalph Barbosa
That's my friend's car. He just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, he just had it laying around?
- RBRalph Barbosa
... he got a good deal. Yeah. Everything we find is pretty much Facebook Marketplace.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, okay.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And so then you're gonna drop an LS into that?
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- RBRalph Barbosa
We might, but maybe. Look, that's the channel.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's your channel.
- 50:25 – 1:16:10
Car nerd deep dive: GTRs, track dreams, Corvettes, balance, and driving feel
- RBRalph Barbosa
It's like a, it's like a big, it's like a cardinal sin, though, to put a, a LS in a Skyline.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, right, you wanna use a Japanese engine, yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah, yeah, the RB, it's the original Skyline motor. So that's a, that's an R34 GTT, so that comes with the RB25. The GTR, which is like the super famous-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- RBRalph Barbosa
... the super expensive one, comes with the RB26, but...
- JRJoe Rogan
So you really know your shit, man.
- RBRalph Barbosa
I'm learning.
- JRJoe Rogan
I have an R35. I have a Nismo.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Oh, yeah?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RBRalph Barbosa
You told me one time, I think.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh, I love it.
- RBRalph Barbosa
One guy tried to sell me one of those, but I couldn't do it. It was too exp-... It was out of my price range.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's expensive.
- RBRalph Barbosa
I have, I have an R35 too, but not a Nismo.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you could... The thing about R35s is you can turn it into exactly what a Nismo is.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, y-... The... Everything is modable.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, these cars have been around for so long in the community of modders for both them and a lot of JDM vehicles, like, uh, Supras, like, uh, n- the 240, 240, uh, Zs, the old ones. There's a whole company now that is in the UK that takes, uh, 2... Nissan, uh, Datsun. It was a... Back when it was Datsun.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Datsun.
- JRJoe Rogan
Datsun 240s. And turns them into these fucking sick, streamlined sports cars with, like, wider tires, much more horsepower, super lightweight. It's...
- RBRalph Barbosa
See, I'd like to do that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's so exciting. I love Japanese sports cars because you get the best of both worlds. You get performance and reliability. Like, if you get, like, a GTR, those are, like, o- one of the most reliable cars you can buy, and it's ridiculously fast. That's my shit right there, son.
- RBRalph Barbosa
I, uh...
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what I have.
- RBRalph Barbosa
You ever take it to the track?
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, I have not taken the GTR to a track.
- RBRalph Barbosa
Yeah, you got a Nismo, you gotta take it to a track, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
I kn- I know, but I've only been to a track a few times, and the last time I went, um, was a Corvette thing. I went with them. I'm, I'm... We're actually gonna build a, a track, um, rather a studio on the track.
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