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Joe Rogan Experience #2366 - Sam Tripoli

Sam Tripoli is comic, writer, host of the "Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli" podcast, and co-host of several others, including "Cash Daddies," "Conspiracy Social Club," "Punch Drunk Sports," "Union of the Unwanted" and "Broken Simulation."

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0:00 – 0:35

Healthier off the road, and why air travel feels increasingly chaotic

Narrator 0:00 (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music)

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

Narrator 0:12 It's nice.

Sam Tripoli 0:13 It's amazing how not traveling all the time affects your health. You feel so much better.

Joe Rogan 0:18 Yeah. And it's getting crazy on the interne- o- on planes now.

Sam Tripoli 0:21 Oh, I know, man. Dude, like what happened where, like, these altercations are fairly regular? Like, at airports, you see them. Brawls at airports all the time.

Joe Rogan 0:33 Yeah. I have a theory.

Sam Tripoli 0:34 What is it?

0:35 – 2:11

“They don’t want you flying”: 15-minute cities, agenda claims, and incompetence vs. design

Joe Rogan 0:35 They don't want you flying.

Sam Tripoli 0:37 Oh. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:37 No, no, no, no, dude. You think I'm crazy.

Sam Tripoli 0:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:40 You think I'm crazy? I'm dead serious.

Sam Tripoli 0:42 You know?

Joe Rogan 0:42 There's like a agenda 2050, and literally in there it lists no more commercial flying. And you see them at all these, like, WEFs and all this stuff in Davos.

Sam Tripoli 0:52 Oh, that would be hilarious, like if it was only the elites that got to fly in private jets.

Joe Rogan 0:55 Dude, that's literally the plan.

Sam Tripoli 0:57 For real?

Joe Rogan 0:58 They-

Sam Tripoli 0:58 Okay, but do you think... That can't be responsible for brawls at the Spirit Airlines.

Joe Rogan 1:02 W- Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 1:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03 I mean, dude, they send in all these people all the time. I mean, it's crazy to me.

Sam Tripoli 1:07 Wait a minute.

Joe Rogan 1:07 Flights are always-

Sam Tripoli 1:08 See-

Joe Rogan 1:08 ... always late.

Sam Tripoli 1:09 Right, right. But a lot of that happened because of the pandemic.

Joe Rogan 1:12 All these military plan- planes are almost hitting commercial pl- I'd- I'm telling you, dude, they... If they want you in a 15-minute city, why do they want you flying around?

Sam Tripoli 1:22 Okay. I see what you're saying about the 15-minute city, and I think that's true, but I don't think there's this grand plan to make planes slam into each other. I think it's, a lot of it is incompetence. Whatever happened with that-

Joe Rogan 1:32 I'm not saying that it's not.

Sam Tripoli 1:33 ... the Black Hawk-

Joe Rogan 1:34 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 1:34 ... in DC.

Joe Rogan 1:35 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 1:36 Tha- that was a weird one.

Joe Rogan 1:37 That was a weird one.

Sam Tripoli 1:37 That's a weird one.

Joe Rogan 1:38 But they-

Sam Tripoli 1:38 Because they, apparently that lady was instructed to not go in the direction that she was going, right?

Joe Rogan 1:45 Right, right.

Sam Tripoli 1:45 But what was the specifics of it?

Joe Rogan 1:47 Uh, well, she didn't... They, they looked the wrong way. Like, they go, "Hey, there's a..." And they looked this way, and it was coming that way. Or they looked that way, and it was coming this way. They, they didn't... They looked the wrong way when they t- tried to see what was coming.

Sam Tripoli 2:01 Was she a part of the Biden administration at one point in time and then left and went back to flying helicopters or something like that?

Joe Rogan 2:06 I probably, dude. Listen-

Sam Tripoli 2:08 It's just so, it's so hard to know because you, you see stuff online.

2:11 – 4:10

DEI, public safety competence, and whether chaos is the point

Joe Rogan 2:11 But if you even study like the Vegas shooting, or, I mean, uh, the, uh, LA fires, they want you to blame DEI. Like, l- you... Do you remember when that one, that one, um, uh, fire chief or whatever was like, "Oh, if I come get you and you're too big, you're, you sh- you're in the wrong place at the wrong time."

Sam Tripoli 2:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:29 Why would you say that? Why would you-

Sam Tripoli 2:31 Hubris. It's hubris.

Joe Rogan 2:33 I don't know, bro.

Sam Tripoli 2:33 It's someone who gets in a p- Listen, you got an all lesbian crew.

Joe Rogan 2:37 Right.

Sam Tripoli 2:37 You got a woman who's, uh, the first head of the fire department-

Joe Rogan 2:41 Right.

Sam Tripoli 2:41 ... is a woman, and this lady is a woman.

Joe Rogan 2:43 Right.

Sam Tripoli 2:43 And they're all talking about how great it is if someone who looks like you comes to save you-

Joe Rogan 2:48 Right, I get that.

Sam Tripoli 2:49 ... and help you.

Joe Rogan 2:49 Yeah, totally.

Sam Tripoli 2:50 And like... So they're wrapped up in that kooky ideology, the, the, the absence of meritocracy and the absence of, like, s- physical standards for difficult physical jobs.

Joe Rogan 3:01 Right.

Sam Tripoli 3:01 To pretend that that's not necessary-

Joe Rogan 3:03 Yeah, that's... They're destroying archetypes.

Sam Tripoli 3:03 ... that you shouldn't be able to take a guy out. The guys that I knew that were all firefighters, the, the guys that I've known, one of my buddies is a firefighter who's a Bre- Brazilian jujitsu black belt. Another one is a fucking big giant Irish guy. Like, they're all, they were always big people.

Joe Rogan 3:18 Right.

Sam Tripoli 3:18 Because you gotta be able to carry folks.

Joe Rogan 3:20 I agree, dude.

Sam Tripoli 3:20 And you gotta be able to do, like, crazy physical things. You have to ax down doors sometimes.

Joe Rogan 3:25 Yeah. (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 3:25 You know, it's, it's-

Joe Rogan 3:26 Right.

Sam Tripoli 3:27 F- Imagine you take 100-pound woman and tell her to ax down a door.

Joe Rogan 3:30 Okay. So I agree with what you're saying, but what I'm saying is, what causes more chaos, what causes more infighting is if you push everybody to this is DEI messing up and not that this whole thing is purposeful.

Sam Tripoli 3:44 (inhales deeply) Okay. Um, so you're thinking that they're instituting DEI on purpose and they're putting incompetent people in positions of power on purpose so that they'll fuck up, so that people will complain-

Joe Rogan 3:57 Or-

Sam Tripoli 3:57 ... so that it creates more chaos?

Joe Rogan 3:59 Yes. So, I mean, I don't know if they're... Th- They, the narrative instantly became-

Sam Tripoli 4:05 Who's that? Who's these people?

Joe Rogan 4:05 Who are... The Bolsheviks?

Sam Tripoli 4:06 These lizard people.

Joe Rogan 4:07 I don't know. I mean, like-

Sam Tripoli 4:07 They're lizard people, right?

Joe Rogan 4:08 Yeah. Well, I don't know if they're lizard.

Sam Tripoli 4:10 (laughs)

4:10 – 6:29

Why Los Angeles breeds conformity: career gatekeeping, Hollywood auditions, and self-censorship

Joe Rogan 4:10 Well, they probably are lizard people, but, I mean, this is... I mean, when Karen Bass... Here's the crazy thing about LA, very few people are calling out anything anymore. They've, it's a, it's a city of conformity that nobody wants to-

Sam Tripoli 4:22 Right.

Joe Rogan 4:22 ... rock the boat because to get a job in LA, you need a 20, 20 green lights.

Sam Tripoli 4:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:27 All you gotta catch is one red light and you're not working.

Sam Tripoli 4:30 Right.

Joe Rogan 4:30 So if you're out there going, "Hey, dude, this is like... Hey, man, what's going up with this? This seems pretty purposeful," you're not gonna work. You're just not gonna work. Uh, you could get mugged at a gas station pumping $7 ga- gallon gas-

Sam Tripoli 4:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:44 ... and still never complain about what's going on and still vote the same way because you don't want to rock the boat. That's the... And if you ask me, it's a big part of moving everybody into these big cities, is the forced conformity.

Sam Tripoli 4:56 I don't think it's like that everywhere though. LA is particularly like that because of the, it's a city of conformity already because of Hollywood.

Joe Rogan 5:04 Yes, yes.

Sam Tripoli 5:05 'Cause you're auditioning for things.

Joe Rogan 5:06 Yes, 100%.

Sam Tripoli 5:07 The auditioning for things thing is crazy because it's really the only way to find out if someone's really good at acting, you give them a chance, right? But the way it's set up is like people choose people and if they choose you, you go on to have this incredible life. You become Brad Pitt.

Joe Rogan 5:23 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 5:23 Right? But if they don't choose you, you become that guy that everybody sees at the party that's 45-

Joe Rogan 5:29 Yup.

Sam Tripoli 5:29 ... and, you know, dying his hair dark and-

Joe Rogan 5:31 Yup. It's-

Sam Tripoli 5:32 And it's not happening.

Joe Rogan 5:33 It's a rigged game, dude.

Sam Tripoli 5:33 And everyone knows it's not happening and maybe he's got talent 'cause it's weird. So you have to conform.

Joe Rogan 5:38 Yes.

Sam Tripoli 5:39 You have to say what they want you to say, whether it's about whatever political issue or social i-

Joe Rogan 5:44 Kids getting transitioned.

Sam Tripoli 5:45 Climate change.

Joe Rogan 5:46 Yup.

Sam Tripoli 5:46 Whatever it is. You can't have any, uh, opinions that break from the narrative.

Joe Rogan 5:51 I totally 100% agree and that's kind of why LA, nobody's saying anything right now.

Sam Tripoli 5:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:56 And-

Sam Tripoli 5:56 It's a culture. It's a part of the culture, but I, I really think it has something to do with the original way that LA was founded before the whole reality star thing-

Joe Rogan 6:04 The dargards.

Sam Tripoli 6:04 ... and everything else but it... There's definitely a lot of that going on, but it was all acting. Everybody wanted to go there to act.... so it was, like, the primary wa- the primary way that someone would get a gig was an audition.

Joe Rogan 6:15 Yep, yep. There's a, uh, there's a term. It's a, uh, um, uh, a communist term. It's like Ɣǀɹɐnɐfɪzə. Uh, I'm probably-

Sam Tripoli 6:24 Danny will Google that. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:25 But, uh, it's b- I'm butchering how to pronounce it.

Sam Tripoli 6:27 By the way, that is-

Joe Rogan 6:27 Which will be a theme.

Sam Tripoli 6:28 ... a dope sweatshirt.

6:29 – 10:56

A jiu-jitsu interlude becomes a real talk about aging, injuries, and getting an MRI

Joe Rogan 6:29 Oh, 10th Planet Van Nuys?

Sam Tripoli 6:31 I need that. I need one of those.

Joe Rogan 6:32 Well, dude.

Sam Tripoli 6:32 You got me one?

Joe Rogan 6:33 I got you... Alder.

Sam Tripoli 6:34 Oh, who's running 10th Planet Van Nuys?

Joe Rogan 6:36 Alder.

Sam Tripoli 6:36 Oh, no shit.

Joe Rogan 6:37 He brought... He gave me this.

Sam Tripoli 6:37 Shout out to Alder. He's cool as fuck. Oh, nice.

Joe Rogan 6:38 Here's yours. Yeah, dude.

Sam Tripoli 6:40 Bro, I need one of those, though. I need the Wu-Tang one.

Joe Rogan 6:42 Okay, I'll g- oh, dude, I- I- I- I'll get you one, dude.

Sam Tripoli 6:44 Does that stink?

Joe Rogan 6:45 No.

Sam Tripoli 6:45 How- how bad does that smell?

Joe Rogan 6:46 Why? You want this one?

Sam Tripoli 6:47 Give me that one. Give me that one.

Joe Rogan 6:47 Okay. (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 6:48 Or later, later, later, later.

Joe Rogan 6:49 No, no, I'll give it to you now 'cause it's hot in here, dude.

Sam Tripoli 6:51 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Narrator 6:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:53 Oh, sorry. You gotta see my tits, dude.

Sam Tripoli 6:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:56 Here you go. This is yours.

Sam Tripoli 6:57 I'm never washing this. I'm never washing this again.

Joe Rogan 6:58 All right, it's yours, dude. That worked out perfectly. I'm like, "I'm gonna sweat like a pig the whole time."

Sam Tripoli 7:02 Well, you know, anything Wu-Tang, I'm down with. That's like, that's on strip-

Joe Rogan 7:05 10th Planet Van Nuys, I'm just getting murked by Mexicans the whole time.

Sam Tripoli 7:08 Tha- so they took the V and the N-

Joe Rogan 7:09 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 7:10 ... and they made it just like the Wu-Tang.

Joe Rogan 7:11 Yeah. It's a great, it's a great school, dude.

Sam Tripoli 7:13 Fuck, yeah. Alder's the shit. I love living with him.

Joe Rogan 7:14 I'm trying to get a blue bell. I'm just old and fat.

Sam Tripoli 7:16 Nice.

Joe Rogan 7:16 It's hard. (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 7:17 Bro, I've known Alder for fucking more than 20 years.

Joe Rogan 7:20 Yeah, he's great. I love him.

Sam Tripoli 7:21 You think 20? Yeah, probably like 20 years.

Joe Rogan 7:23 Yeah, dude. He's great. I love jujitsu.

Sam Tripoli 7:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:26 I just gotta do old man jujitsu where I gotta do wrist locks and shit like that 'cause I can't move these fat legs.

Sam Tripoli 7:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:31 I got fat old legs. I can't throw my... And I'm taking on these-

Sam Tripoli 7:35 Are you on any hormone replacement therapy or anything like that?

Joe Rogan 7:37 I know, I want you so bad.

Sam Tripoli 7:38 We'll get you set up. We'll get you set up at Waste Well.

Joe Rogan 7:40 I got a bad hip too, dude. That's why I gotta work on it.

Sam Tripoli 7:42 Oh, no.

Joe Rogan 7:42 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 7:43 What's wrong with the hip?

Joe Rogan 7:44 It just... It's the- the- the... Uh, it's just the wheels are a little off.

Sam Tripoli 7:48 Did you get it looked at?

Joe Rogan 7:49 No, I gotta do that.

Sam Tripoli 7:50 Okay.

Joe Rogan 7:50 I've been running nuts.

Sam Tripoli 7:51 All right. Well, before you do all this other stuff like jujitsu, and you have a injury, you should make sure that you're not making that injury way worse.

Joe Rogan 7:58 Probably making it worse.

Sam Tripoli 8:00 You know, it's kind of important.

Joe Rogan 8:00 But I love it.

Sam Tripoli 8:01 I know.

Joe Rogan 8:02 I like pain.

Sam Tripoli 8:02 I'm glad you like it, but just listen to daddy.

Narrator 8:05 (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 8:06 'Cause I've been down this fucking surgery road many times with jujitsu. And I've had, uh, two knee surgeries 'cause of jujitsu. Um, you have to make sure... And I had a bunch of back issues. You have to make sure that it's not, like, a labrum tear or something like that, where you're rel- you're continuing to tear it and make it worse.

Joe Rogan 8:23 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 8:23 'Cause you can get that fixed.

Joe Rogan 8:25 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 8:25 And if you get it fixed, you'll be way better off.

Joe Rogan 8:26 Yeah, I gotta get it fixed.

Sam Tripoli 8:27 This... MMA fighters do it all the time, like Suga Sean.

Joe Rogan 8:30 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 8:30 Uh, before his fight with Merab, he tore his labrum, the first fight. And he was gonna get it surgery, but he realized he couldn't. He... Well, there was no way he was gonna... But he wanted to make that Sphere show 'cause they're doing it at the Sphere. He's like, "Fuck it, I can still beat that guy." He's an animal. You know?

Joe Rogan 8:42 Yeah, he's savage.

Sam Tripoli 8:43 So he took a cha- took a chance. But he needed to get it fixed. And, uh, then he finally got it fixed and he's like, "Dude, I feel fucking infinitely better."

Joe Rogan 8:50 "I'm on his so badly."

Sam Tripoli 8:50 "Infinitely better." You have to fix it.

Joe Rogan 8:52 Um-

Sam Tripoli 8:52 If it's, if it's a labrum tear or something like that, you just don't wanna ruin it. You don't wanna get it so you need a hip replacement, which I know a gang of guys who have hip replacements, okay?

Joe Rogan 9:02 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 9:02 I- I mean, I can't believe how many people I know that have hip replacements.

Joe Rogan 9:05 I went home for the, uh, I brought the kids back to the homeland, and all my family was like, "Yeah, I got this fixed, I got this fixed, I got that fixed."

Sam Tripoli 9:13 The hip one's nuts, man, because I know guys that are 40 that have hip replacements. Like, not just one, you know?

Joe Rogan 9:19 I think it's a-

Sam Tripoli 9:19 Remember C- remember Conor?

Joe Rogan 9:20 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 9:20 Did you ever meet Conor?

Joe Rogan 9:21 Yeah, of course.

Sam Tripoli 9:21 Conor Hugh?

Joe Rogan 9:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sam Tripoli 9:22 He got his hips done.

Joe Rogan 9:23 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 9:24 You know? I- I know, like, a bunch of MMA fighters that had to get h- their hips done. John Wayne Parr, Muay Thai guy, he had to get his hips done.

Joe Rogan 9:31 Mm-hmm.

Sam Tripoli 9:31 At least one hip. It's rough, man. They- they saw the top of your bone off and put a fucking cap on it in a different socket and screw it all in there, and then it's good for about 20 years.

Joe Rogan 9:42 I think I, um, messed up some joints during my running and gunning days.

Sam Tripoli 9:47 I'm sure you did.

Joe Rogan 9:47 Not drinking enough water, I think I... I-

Sam Tripoli 9:49 Yeah, you probably got injured a bunch of times, didn't notice it.

Joe Rogan 9:52 Just kept going.

Sam Tripoli 9:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:53 Like a champ.

Sam Tripoli 9:54 The thing about those hips, though, is the, what they can do now... Like, before in the past, if you had a chronically inflamed hip and arthritis and you were missing calcu- or missing, um, uh, m- meniscus or whate- whatever it'd be, uh, cartilage, labrum tears in your hips, you're crippled for life. Now they just give you an artificial one and they say, "Well, it'll probably last about 20 years." And you go, "Well, at least for 20 years, you can w-" Like, everyone I know that has one walks normal. They say it doesn't hurt.

Joe Rogan 10:20 Yeah, I want that so badly.

Sam Tripoli 10:22 Yeah, but you don't. You wanna fix your hip if it's possible.

Joe Rogan 10:24 Yeah, I know. That's what I want.

Sam Tripoli 10:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:25 I wanna fix my hip. I'm gonna do it-

Sam Tripoli 10:27 We're gonna get it-

Joe Rogan 10:27 ... when I go back.

Sam Tripoli 10:27 No, we'll get it looked at while you're here.

Joe Rogan 10:29 Really?

Sam Tripoli 10:29 How many days, how many days are you here for?

Joe Rogan 10:30 I'm here, I'm leaving tomorrow.

Sam Tripoli 10:31 What time tomorrow?

Joe Rogan 10:33 Like, 7:00 they put me on it for, like-

Sam Tripoli 10:34 7:00 AM?

Joe Rogan 10:34 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 10:35 Phew. Um, maybe we can get you in this afternoon.

Joe Rogan 10:38 I'll fly right back.

Sam Tripoli 10:38 We might be able to get you in this afternoon. Just-

Joe Rogan 10:40 Get my hip looked, I'll fly right back.

Sam Tripoli 10:42 Yeah. Someone should look at it. But you re- what you really need is an MRI.

Joe Rogan 10:46 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 10:46 Um, because they need to find out exactly what's going on inside there.

Joe Rogan 10:49 I'm paying a gazillion dollars in health insurance, I better get it looked at.

Sam Tripoli 10:52 Bro, that doesn't get you nothing these days. Don't you know?

Joe Rogan 10:55 Nothing.

Sam Tripoli 10:55 Don't you know?

Joe Rogan 10:55 It's unbelievable.

10:56 – 14:41

Health insurance breakdown: Ben Askren’s lung transplant, AI denials, and malpractice fears

Sam Tripoli 10:56 Do you know what happened to Ben Askren?

Joe Rogan 10:59 Oh yeah, dude. That's so tragic and sad and just disgusting. It should be like, if they don't cover it, they should send all your money back.

Sam Tripoli 11:06 How crazy is that? He had health insurance. He got a terrible infection in his lungs that led to, I think it's called necrotic pneumonia. He had to have a- a double lung transplant, and health insurance says-

Joe Rogan 11:18 Crazy.

Sam Tripoli 11:18 ... "We're not covering it."

Joe Rogan 11:20 I- I... How is that possible?

Sam Tripoli 11:21 That is an obvious catastrophic illness that just hit a guy, right? Like, this is not... He's not, like, a chronic smoker. There's not, there's not... There's- there's no terrible thing that he did. He just got sick.

Joe Rogan 11:35 Yep.

Sam Tripoli 11:36 And isn't that what health insurance is for?

Joe Rogan 11:37 Yep, 100%.

Sam Tripoli 11:38 And like, I wanna know, like, on what grounds can you deny something like that?... that see- that, uh, that seems to be, like, a break in the narrative. Like, something like that is, you can't say, "Oh, this person's responsible for that. They did something they weren't supposed to do because of their insurance."

Joe Rogan 11:57 Right.

Sam Tripoli 11:57 Like, no, this guy just got sick.

Joe Rogan 11:58 Yeah, 100%. And that's what that whole Luigi thing was about. That company was using AI to determine whether you should be covered or not.

Sam Tripoli 12:05 Right.

Joe Rogan 12:06 And AI doesn't have any emotion or can't look at it going, "Well, we, maybe we should cover this." It's very analytical about it. And that's why that... I, I guess he was having problems with his, uh, back and just got pissed off. And that's what happens, man. And that whole thing was weird too.

Sam Tripoli 12:21 Yeah. I heard he, he had, um, a screw loose too, though. His friends were saying that there's like... He had a break. Like, something went wrong in his li-... But that might be connected to the surgery, by the way. You know, if all of a sudden you need to get, need to get discs fused in your back and you're in constant pain, that could completely change the way you interface with the world.

Joe Rogan 12:42 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 12:42 You know, Mike- Michael Bisping had his, uh, n- neck fixed and it didn't go well, and he had to get it done again.

Joe Rogan 12:47 Oh.

Sam Tripoli 12:47 And he was in so much pain-

Joe Rogan 12:48 Brutal.

Sam Tripoli 12:49 ... that he couldn't do anything. He could only basically lie in bed and then go do his UFC duties, and then go back and lie in bed. Just motherfucker was just in agony and keeping it together.

Joe Rogan 12:59 I think-

Sam Tripoli 12:59 He was keeping it together, but some people don't keep it together when they're in pain all the time, man.

Joe Rogan 13:03 Well, you know, a lot of people think once you get to the hospital, you're safe, right? That's where the safe place is. And, you know, medical malpractice is one of the leading cause of death out there. And it's a, you know, y- y- y- nothing's an exact science, but yeah, they can mess it up. My, my grandmother on my father's side just went in to get a bag changed and she never left the hospital.

Sam Tripoli 13:22 Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 13:22 She passed away.

Sam Tripoli 13:24 Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 13:26 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 13:26 Um, I know this lady who went to get a kidney removed, and they took out the wrong kidney.

Joe Rogan 13:32 Oh!

Sam Tripoli 13:34 So she had one bad kidney and one good kidney, and they took out her bad kidney. Or they took out her good kidney and left her bad kidney. Yeah. And the doctor would not, would not admit he fucked up.

Joe Rogan 13:45 (sighs)

Sam Tripoli 13:45 The doctor would not admit it. I mean, it's, it's... The whole thing is fucking crazy.

Joe Rogan 13:50 Brutal.

Sam Tripoli 13:52 But that's medical malpractice.

Joe Rogan 13:53 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 13:54 But the denial of insurance claims on stuff like that is... Like, the, the medical miracle is they did give him a double lung transplant. Ben Askren is alive right now, and he's trying to build himself back up to health-

Joe Rogan 14:05 And they had to GoFundMe it.

Sam Tripoli 14:06 They had to GoFundMe it.

Joe Rogan 14:07 Which is absolutely ridiculous that we live in America and you have to have your friends and fans support you to have this, like, life-saving surgery.

Sam Tripoli 14:16 I think a big chunk of it was Jake Paul.

Joe Rogan 14:17 Yep.

Sam Tripoli 14:18 I think Jake Paul gave him, like, half a million dollars. But it's just, it's really kind of crazy that the insurance is allowed to not cover something like that. Now, what... Did they have a response? Is there a response for why they didn't cover that?

Joe Rogan 14:31 That's tragic. He looks like he-

Sam Tripoli 14:32 'Cause it just seem, it seems insane. I mean, unless there's some legal loophole, how could you not cover someone who just gets some crazy illness like that?

14:41 – 17:23

Obama, “change” politics, and the view that major reforms are managed theater

Joe Rogan 14:41 You know, when Obama was a... I knew Obama was, like, not the guy I thought he was. The, uh, Obama's first term is the last time I voted for either a Republican or Democrat. That was the last time. So, you know, everybody wanted change. I didn't get into how they basically rigged that thing for him. You know, because America, after George Bush and Dick Cheney, hates old white neocons. And then who did they have, who did they have run against the slick, good-looking b- young Black guy who nobody knew was a Bush at the time? Who did they have? John McCain, who was the, the, you, you know, the poster child or the mascot for the (laughs) old white neocons, right? So they basically run everybody to Obama and were like, "Yeah, we're gonna have change." And he was running on, like, everyone getting healthcare and all that stuff. And then so they have this giant debate in Washington about, uh, you know, universal health coverage. And this dude gets on a plane and runs to Germany to give speeches and stuff like that during the debate on his major campaign, you know, issue. And I'm like, "Oh, dude. This is just a giant setup. It's all BS." And I've never voted for another guy-

Sam Tripoli 15:46 Why did, wait a minute. Explain that. So he went to Germany to do what?

Joe Rogan 15:49 Spee- give speeches. He was gonna go give speeches to the, to German diplomats and, and politicians and all that stuff-

Sam Tripoli 15:56 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 15:56 ... while we are debating his, his campaign promise. And I'm like, "Why aren't, why aren't you here fighting for you, what you said you wanted to get us? Now you're out of the country, you're not even part of the debate."

Sam Tripoli 16:08 Is it possible that they set those debates up at the same time where they knew that he was gonna be out of the country?

Joe Rogan 16:14 Yeah. But if you're running a campaign and they're like, "This, it's in the heat of the debate-"

Sam Tripoli 16:18 Right.

Joe Rogan 16:18 ... when you're like, "I can't go right now," I-

Sam Tripoli 16:20 Do you think it's possible that that was a plan? That they didn't want him there to defend it and it would be easier to shoot it down?

Joe Rogan 16:29 Yeah, of course.

Sam Tripoli 16:30 On purpose?

Joe Rogan 16:31 Yes.

Sam Tripoli 16:31 On purpose.

Joe Rogan 16:32 And when he passes-

Sam Tripoli 16:32 And, and do you think they scheduled those meetings at a time where they knew that they were gonna be doing the debate-

Joe Rogan 16:37 Well, I-

Sam Tripoli 16:37 ... so they could get out of him having to defend not, not having lived up to his campaign promises?

Joe Rogan 16:44 Yeah. That's my whole opinion.

Sam Tripoli 16:46 Well, there's got to be some 3D chess going on, right? We don't... And I know all of it isn't, but (sighs) there's some really smart people that are involved in the government, obviously. So th- they've got to be thinking like, "This is a way we can handle this." Like, there's probably a bunch of nerds in a room and they're brainstorming and someone says, "Listen, here's how we get out of it."

Joe Rogan 17:02 Yeah. We send him to Germany and he's not even here.

Sam Tripoli 17:05 We say there actually are no files.

Joe Rogan 17:08 Yeah. (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 17:08 We say there's no video. Even though he said there's 10,000 hours of video, actually it's not true. Those people should not have spoken. We can't find it. We don't know where it is. There's no list.

Joe Rogan 17:19 And, and-

Sam Tripoli 17:19 There's no nothing. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:20 And I love how, like, when they, they shoot-

Sam Tripoli 17:23 (sighs)

17:23 – 20:52

Epstein files and covert videos: Pam Bondi clip, media framing, and blackmail logic

Joe Rogan 17:23 ... her just eating a salad, i- she's perfectly shot. You can hear everything she's saying. She's not s- I, I... Dude, my whole thing goes, everything is-

Sam Tripoli 17:32 Who's eating a salad?

Joe Rogan 17:34 ... Pam, Pam Bondi.

Sam Tripoli 17:35 Oh, she was eating a salad while she was talking about this?

Joe Rogan 17:36 Yeah, when, when Veritas or wa- j- James O'Keefe puts out that video-

Sam Tripoli 17:41 What is the video?

Joe Rogan 17:42 The video is her talking about how there's like tens of thousands of videos-

Sam Tripoli 17:45 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 17:45 ... of him hurting children.

Sam Tripoli 17:47 Oh, so that video is, uh-

Joe Rogan 17:48 Comes out like-

Sam Tripoli 17:49 So that ... But, but that video is like one of those Veritas type videos?

Joe Rogan 17:53 Yes. Yes.

Sam Tripoli 17:53 He's O'Keefe? O'Keefe did it?

Joe Rogan 17:54 Yeah, O'Keefe.

Sam Tripoli 17:54 Okay. So it's-

Joe Rogan 17:55 He's also the one who put out Karen Bass's phone call about her going, talking ... Have you ever heard it?

Sam Tripoli 18:01 No.

Joe Rogan 18:01 The super creepy, uh-

Sam Tripoli 18:03 Bro, that phone-

Joe Rogan 18:04 ... guy.

Sam Tripoli 18:04 ... gets everything. He gets everything.

Joe Rogan 18:05 That guy gets everything, dude.

Sam Tripoli 18:07 And usually chatty gay guys.

Joe Rogan 18:08 Yep, ch- oh, dude. And chatty gay guys-

Sam Tripoli 18:10 All they do is send, listen, send in some ass-

Joe Rogan 18:12 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 18:12 ... and they'll give away all the secrets.

Joe Rogan 18:14 So I didn't know that, uh, that was how that ... I'd only r- read that she said that there was tens of thousands of videos. No, she talks about it in the video.

Sam Tripoli 18:21 Oh, interesting. Interesting. "Covertly recorded April 28th, revealing previously undisclosed information about Epstein regarding tens of thousands of videos of little kids to a complete stranger in a DC restaurant." Okay, well, let's hear what it says. I wanna hear how she says it.

Narrator 18:35 Oh, it's gonna be a long video. I gotta find it.

Sam Tripoli 18:37 Um-

Joe Rogan 18:37 Yeah, you, you- it's easy to find 'cause it cuts to her in a cafe. You'll find it right there. Just go, kinda jump, jump. Oh, there it is. That's her talking right there.

Narrator 18:46 Do you know when the Epstein files are gonna get released?

18:48 Um, we hope soon.

18:50 Soon?

18:50 The FBI's been on it.

18:52 Okay.

18:52 So-

18:52 Any dates?

18:54 No. You know what it is? There are tens and thousands of videos.

18:59 Yeah.

18:59 And it's all with little kids.

19:01 Mm-hmm.

19:01 So they have to go through every one.

19:03 In the past, officials have spok-

Sam Tripoli 19:06 Okay. That ... She didn't even say underage girls. She said little kids.

Joe Rogan 19:11 Yep. And that's a big part, I said this a long time ago, is that they're just trying to set it up so it's like, "Dude, they're high school chicks. You know they're hot." In reality, it's like really, really ... And there, there were, there were statements, I believe, and you can't find it on the internet anymore 'cause, you know, they, they clean everything up, of like people talking about like what Bill Clinton was fooling around with and it w- it wasn't little girls, you know? And I've always said this, you know, it's like Bill Clinton is the Andy Dick of the White House. (laughs) He just sees holes, he wants to hit them, right?

Sam Tripoli 19:49 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 19:51 You know, he just-

Sam Tripoli 19:52 You can't say that if you don't know it's true, though.

Joe Rogan 19:54 I just did.

Sam Tripoli 19:54 You know he likes to fuck. He's, was a good looking guy when he was young, super charismatic. Loved-

Joe Rogan 20:00 Listen-

Sam Tripoli 20:00 ... them ladies, which is ... Listen, that's Kennedy.

Joe Rogan 20:03 Who-

Sam Tripoli 20:03 That's cl- it's classic presidents. It's just we found out about it.

Joe Rogan 20:06 Bisexual Kennedy, bisexual George-

Sam Tripoli 20:09 Ken- Kennedy? They were bisexual?

Joe Rogan 20:10 Yeah, 100%.

Sam Tripoli 20:11 They were bisexual?

Joe Rogan 20:11 Yeah. Bu- Kennedy was bisexual.

Sam Tripoli 20:13 Oh.

Joe Rogan 20:13 George Bush Sr. was-

Sam Tripoli 20:14 Where are you getting this fr-

Joe Rogan 20:16 ... gay.

Sam Tripoli 20:16 Where are you getting this from? Hold the fuck up.

Joe Rogan 20:18 Dawg-

Sam Tripoli 20:18 Where are you getting this from?

Joe Rogan 20:19 ... I, I do deep dives into all this shit.

Sam Tripoli 20:21 I understand, but-

Joe Rogan 20:21 Joe, I'm telling you-

Sam Tripoli 20:22 ... where are you diving? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:23 Dude, I'm telling you, the finders, you remember the finders?

Sam Tripoli 20:26 "Was JFK bisexual? A viral tweet is reigniting speculation. Here's the tea."

Joe Rogan 20:31 And he's like ... Yeah. I mean-

Sam Tripoli 20:33 Wow.

Joe Rogan 20:33 ... they're just hor- he, dude, he was on speed.

Sam Tripoli 20:36 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:36 He's a tweaker.

Sam Tripoli 20:37 He's forgotten queer history. (laughs)

Narrator 20:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:41 They're just horny ass people. Woodrow Wilson, they believe they black- m- blackmailed him through, uh, being gay. Uh, I mean, Obama stuff coming out right now. Uh, Bill Clinton.

20:52 – 24:25

From ancient warfare to Afghanistan: taboo escalation, exploitation, and why institutions look away

Sam Tripoli 20:52 So let's, let's think about that, right? We know that like the Spartans were gay, right? The, we know that they had sex with each other.

Joe Rogan 20:58 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 20:59 You know, it was a big thing.

Joe Rogan 20:59 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 20:59 It was part of like why they would go to battle so well.

Joe Rogan 21:03 Right. Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 21:03 They're fighting for their lovers.

Joe Rogan 21:04 Their joke about the samurais.

Sam Tripoli 21:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:06 Boo-

Sam Tripoli 21:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:06 You know, back in the day about how-

Sam Tripoli 21:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:08 ... they were all gay.

Sam Tripoli 21:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:08 'Cause you're gonna fight harder if you know that dude got some DSLs, right?

Sam Tripoli 21:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:13 You're gonna fight way harder. Don't kill Bill. He's the best in the bunker.

Sam Tripoli 21:17 Yeah. You're, you're fighting for your lovers.

Joe Rogan 21:20 Yeah, right?

Sam Tripoli 21:21 It's ... But it's also like there's a lot of ancient cultures that think of, um, having sex with women just for procreation, but with boys for fun.

Joe Rogan 21:31 That's Afghanistan.

Sam Tripoli 21:32 Exactly. And my friends that have been over there that have served over there, one of my buddies, I don't know if he said this publicly, so maybe I shouldn't say his name, um, but just the stories that he told me, I was like, "Wh- what?" Like, how w- like he was talking about how he saw this truck driver with his son. He thought like, "Oh, that's cool. He takes his son to work with him." And the guy goes, "That's not his son. Like that's his, that's his toy." It's called, that's-

Joe Rogan 21:56 It's called man love Thursdays, dude.

Sam Tripoli 21:57 Yeah, but it's not just-

Joe Rogan 21:58 That's what they call-

Sam Tripoli 21:58 ... Thursday. It's like-

Joe Rogan 21:59 They go into the mountains. They think-

Sam Tripoli 22:00 My friend was telling me that there was this one guy that was ... he worked on this base and he was kind of slow, like he was mentally slow and he had a colostomy bag. And he f- heard a bunch of noise and saw a bunch of dudes in the room, like in one of the storage rooms. These guys were fucking his colostomy hole. This old mentally challenged guy.

Joe Rogan 22:24 Yep.

Sam Tripoli 22:24 And these dudes were fucking his colostomy hole. He's like, "Bro."

Joe Rogan 22:28 I just had a guy on right now, this is gonna get weird, but Dom the Hypnotist came on and he was talking about how he w- he has a mentor who he also works with who was, uh, Hillary Clinton's, um, security detail. And they were in Afghanistan. They saw a bunch of kids go in the room and never come out.

Sam Tripoli 22:50 What does that mean?

Joe Rogan 22:52 That they, at, at like 3:00 in the morning.

Sam Tripoli 22:55 This is bacha bazi, right?

Joe Rogan 22:57 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 22:57 This is the kids dancing and shit?

Joe Rogan 22:59 Yep.

Sam Tripoli 22:59 That is so sick, guys.

Joe Rogan 23:00 And they were told like, "Don't interfere with the l- the local customs."

Sam Tripoli 23:07 Yeah. But you ... Are you implying that they are dead?

Joe Rogan 23:09 I'm implying that he never saw them come out.

Sam Tripoli 23:12 Maybe they took a nap after-

Joe Rogan 23:13 Maybe, maybe they, there's another exit to it.

Sam Tripoli 23:16 Hillary read them a story and gave them some cookies and milk.

Joe Rogan 23:17 Yeah. (laughs) Go to bed. Let them sleep.

Sam Tripoli 23:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:19 We gotta check out. Let them sleep. They'll figure it out.

Sam Tripoli 23:21 The, the, the creepiest idea about pedophilia is that there's people that know about it and cover it up because they don't want to get in trouble for having known about it. Like this is the Sandusky thing, right?

Joe Rogan 23:34 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 23:35 You know? I mean, that's, that's essentially what-... Tank, Joe Paterno, right? Like-

Joe Rogan 23:39 Oh. Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 23:39 Everybody really knew.

Joe Rogan 23:41 Yeah. And they all let it go 'cause they were winning football games, and then-

Sam Tripoli 23:44 Which is-

Joe Rogan 23:44 ... Penn State's right back into title contention. But here's the thing, dude. Over time, what they can blackmail you with changes. Like, way back in the day, if you... They thought you were cheating on your wife, they could blackmail you with that. But as, as culture grows and we start accepting more and more stuff, it's gotta get weirder and weirder. You know, back in the... You remember, I mean, we're, we're around the same age. I mean, you remember when we were debating whether boy, Boy George was gay or not, and they were like-

Sam Tripoli 24:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:10 (laughs) We were like, we were having... There was like a real discussion on that, and he's like, "No, dude, I pump puss, dude."

Sam Tripoli 24:16 How about George Michael?

Joe Rogan 24:17 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 24:17 Same thing.

Joe Rogan 24:17 100%.

Sam Tripoli 24:17 He was so beautiful, there's no way he could be straight.

Joe Rogan 24:20 (laughs) Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 24:20 His hair was so perfect, his voice was so amazing, like-

Joe Rogan 24:24 Type-

Sam Tripoli 24:24 That guy's gotta be super gay.

24:25 – 32:15

Culture wars as distraction: cheerleaders, media depictions, and ‘live and let live’ boundaries

Joe Rogan 24:25 Have you seen the Minnesota Vikings male cheerleader? That is the shiniest dude I've ever seen.

Sam Tripoli 24:31 No, show me this.

Joe Rogan 24:32 Yeah, look it. He's a male cheerleader, and he's-

Sam Tripoli 24:34 Shane was actually just talking about this. Shane was talking about this in the greenroom the other day.

Joe Rogan 24:38 Yeah, he's shiny, dude.

Sam Tripoli 24:40 Shiny? Oh my goodness.

Joe Rogan 24:41 He's so shiny, dude.

Sam Tripoli 24:42 Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.

Joe Rogan 24:45 Oh, man. And you-

Sam Tripoli 24:45 Oh my goodness.

Joe Rogan 24:46 Yeah, he's so... And you can see him like on, uh, Twitter, he's just like dancing around, and he's the shiniest dude you've ever seen in your life.

Sam Tripoli 24:53 Ah, he's got a... The skirt? They wear the skirt?

Joe Rogan 24:57 I guess.

Sam Tripoli 24:58 Yeah, there he is in the front row.

Joe Rogan 24:59 He's got shorts. He's got shorts there.

Sam Tripoli 25:00 Uh, okay. Um-

Joe Rogan 25:03 Cheerleaders are useless anyways. There's really no purpose of them. They don't do anything for the game. It was back in the day, like, how can we have hot chicks in football?

Sam Tripoli 25:12 It's a weird role, and I don't have a problem with a gay guy doing that.

Joe Rogan 25:16 Well, here's my opinion, dude.

Sam Tripoli 25:17 Like why, why, but why would I care, right? Like, here's the thing. If you're in a, a stadium of 16,000 people-

Joe Rogan 25:25 Football's like 70,000.

Sam Tripoli 25:27 Bigger. 60,000. 60,000 people.

Joe Rogan 25:28 Right.

Sam Tripoli 25:28 Right? I'm thinking of a basketball game. If you're in a football stadium, 80,000 people, how many gays? How many gay guys are in the crowd?

Joe Rogan 25:36 10%. We'll go 10%.

Sam Tripoli 25:37 It's probably 10%.

Joe Rogan 25:38 70,000.

Sam Tripoli 25:39 Maybe, maybe a bunch of them are hiding.

Joe Rogan 25:40 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 25:41 Maybe a bunch of them are closeted.

Joe Rogan 25:42 Closeted, dangerous people.

Sam Tripoli 25:43 But it's always kind of like one in 10, right?

Joe Rogan 25:46 Closeted gays can get dangerous, dude.

Sam Tripoli 25:48 What's the problem with having one gay cheerleader for them?

Joe Rogan 25:52 You know, here's my whole-

Sam Tripoli 25:52 Like what's the cheerleader for?

Joe Rogan 25:54 You know, there's always gonna be the fight... What is the point of a cheerleader-

Sam Tripoli 25:57 It's just to have an additional visual aspect to it. I like all the flips they do, and all the jazz, and it's fun, it's choreographed. And when it's done well, it's entertaining.

Joe Rogan 26:07 Yeah. I mean, Gary-

Sam Tripoli 26:08 It's fun to watch.

Joe Rogan 26:08 ... Goldman has a great bit about it, about what their purpose is, to like remind the players how important the play is, right?

Sam Tripoli 26:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:15 He's like, you know, "Defense." "Oh, dude, we gotta play defense, dude." You know?

Sam Tripoli 26:19 It's a extra pageantry that adds to the experience. But why shouldn't a gay guy be doing it? Like how many... How homophobic are guys that are watching that, there's all these hot chicks, and instead they're caught, "What's this fucking guy doing-"

Joe Rogan 26:33 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 26:33 "... in the shorts?" There's 16 other girls with perfect bodies you could be paying attention to.

Joe Rogan 26:37 Right.

Sam Tripoli 26:38 But you're focused on the gay guy.

Joe Rogan 26:40 Yeah. And they always complain about how much money they're making. I'm like, "Dude, you get to go to the game for free. You're on the field." It's like-

Sam Tripoli 26:46 I think he would have a great reality show, uh, see how they accept him, see if people are cool with him.

Joe Rogan 26:49 And how many download players are staring at him, dude.

Sam Tripoli 26:53 (laughs) Sure.

Joe Rogan 26:53 "And that's my favorite player." 10% is 10%, right?

Sam Tripoli 26:56 Yeah, 10%.

Joe Rogan 26:57 So here's my whole thing, dude. You know, there's always gonna be culture wars between the right and the left. I'm on nobody's side. Like I'm on nobody... I'm like in the middle. I'm old school liberal.

Sam Tripoli 27:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:07 Live and let live. As long as you're not hurting people, and particularly children, you'll never hear anything from me. I don't care-

Sam Tripoli 27:12 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:12 ... what you do.

Sam Tripoli 27:13 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:13 Buy yourself with consenting adults. Get as weird as you want.

Sam Tripoli 27:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:16 God gave us free will. Do whatever you want. Pick, pick your path. You know, but when you start to demonize certain people, you're setting up a, a, a market for blackmail. So when people can't be themselves and they're so afraid of people finding out who they really are, you're setting it up so people can manipulate them. And, and, and that's the story of Washington, DC. Now-

Sam Tripoli 27:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:40 ... obviously hurting children, there should never be a time where that's culturally acceptable, but that's why it's had to get so dark, is because we don't care if somebody's gay now. It's like who... At least I don't. There's gonna be-

Sam Tripoli 27:51 So do you think it's like they just always wanna do the forbidden thing? So like what would lead someone... Let's get as dark as we can get. What's the darkest? Probably child sacrifice, right?

Joe Rogan 28:01 Hurt, hurting... No, yeah, 100%.

Sam Tripoli 28:04 Child sacrifice. And we're... I think that that's happened before. I don't think that that has not happened in human histories. In fact, I know it's happened, because my friend Shane Smith covered it when he was over in Africa, when, um, he interviewed that general butt-naked guy. That guy used to sacrifice children-

Joe Rogan 28:24 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 28:24 ... from the enemy tribes before everyone in Liberia. He would sacrifice them and cut open their chests and eat their heart. He would eat a piece of their heart before going into battle.

Joe Rogan 28:37 Dark energy, dude.

Sam Tripoli 28:39 Right, but that's a real human being that did that, so we know that this... He didn't invent that.

Joe Rogan 28:43 Right.

Sam Tripoli 28:43 He didn't invent that.

Joe Rogan 28:44 No. I mean, it's in the Bible too.

Sam Tripoli 28:46 Right.

Joe Rogan 28:46 Like when they wanted to take out the Canaanites and, you know, a- atheists use that as like, "Oh, well, he wants to kill all the women and children. What do you think about that?" Well, the Canaanites were practicing child sacrifice. There's a reason why. Now, the language w- we can get into like the Bible language, especially in the First Testament, like is it the language of the time and they were a lot more blunt with it? But that, the Canaanites were, were, were sacrificing children. I mean, that's a big part of... It goes all the way back to Kronos, the, the first god, which is the god of time. And the whole story about it was told that his kids would slay him, so every time his w- his female would have children, he would eat the kids.

Sam Tripoli 29:24 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 29:25 Time.

Sam Tripoli 29:26 Whew.

Joe Rogan 29:27 Black cube of Saturn.

Sam Tripoli 29:29 They get weird. I wonder how they're gonna look at some of the things that pharmaceutical drug companies have pushed through in the future, and the impact that it had on kids.... and whether or not they're going to think of that in a similar way to child sacrifice. Because it really is kind of, if you know that it's causing damage, but you're doing it for money. You kind of sacrificing-

Joe Rogan 29:51 100%.

Sam Tripoli 29:52 ... kids for, for money.

Joe Rogan 29:52 What, what is this?

Sam Tripoli 29:53 How to stop India's superstitious killings ended in exile. What's this about, Jamie?

Narrator 29:58 Read the caption there. Oh, just covered up.

Sam Tripoli 30:01 Uh, human sacrifice, particularly that of minors, has been prevalent in many parts of India for a long time. Geez. More than 85 kids, all under 13, were ritualistically murdered in the country in the last six years, per government data. Last year, there were 14 cases of parents or relatives sacrificing or attempting to sacrifice children on the advice of a sadhu, a holy man.

Joe Rogan 30:22 Oof.

Sam Tripoli 30:23 Bro.

Joe Rogan 30:24 Bro, that gets in the program.

Sam Tripoli 30:25 That is like, how crazy is it that that was a part of history? And it still-

Joe Rogan 30:30 Part, it's still happening.

Sam Tripoli 30:30 You know, that's what I'm saying, like, that it's still, in 2025, people think that, uh, sacrificing a child is the right move. "That's what we need to do. We need to sacrifice a child."

Joe Rogan 30:40 Well, that's the whole thing, kids are the closest to God.

Sam Tripoli 30:43 Yeah. When you think about, like, things like that, like drugs that are pushed on kids that's just for profit, medications that kids are forced to take that's just for profit, things that are fucking them up, where they're... You know, it's just because people want to make money. And, how are they going to look at that in the future? You know, when we look at child sacrifice and they were doing voodoo, or they, you know, the Ma- the Mayans thought they were sacrificing people to the gods, we think of it as barbaric, right? How are they going to look at, like, what we've done, what we just lied about stuff and skirted around the truth and, and gave distorted versions of what we're actually selling to kids? And then those kids wind up dying. They wind up having heart attacks, they wind up having cancer, and it's probably directly related to this medication. And, and no one wants to take credit for it, no one wants to admit it, and everyone's making money.

Joe Rogan 31:37 Everything's programming, dude. Even those people in India, their programming of their religion tells them, like, to sacrifice their own children.

Sam Tripoli 31:43 How crazy is it that the-

Joe Rogan 31:44 I mean, like, it goes against everything your wiring.

Sam Tripoli 31:46 Yeah. It's like, that's the ultimate control you have over a person. You get them to sacrifice their child.

Joe Rogan 31:51 Right? I mean, if you're at a, if you're at a, a kid's park and the kid's in trouble, it doesn't need to be your kid, you run over to make sure the kid's okay. I've done it a thousand times.

Sam Tripoli 31:59 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 31:59 But now you have people, like, especially, like, if you look at, like, what's going on in Gaza, you have people labeling newborns as terrorists. Like, that is your programming overriding your basic instinct, which is to protect children at all costs because they are the future.

Sam Tripoli 32:14 Yeah.

32:15 – 38:57

Programming, anxiety, and “pressure from above/below”: protest movements, chaos, and control narratives

Joe Rogan 32:15 And that's powerful, powerful, powerful. Pr- So, my whole theory is that, that anxiety and depression and anger and all that stuff comes from when your programming and your reality clash and they don't meet up. Your programming from generational trauma, your programming from school, all that stuff meets reality, and you start to just go a little crazy. And I, I, and I-

Sam Tripoli 32:37 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:37 ... think a lot of that is purposeful, to get us on pharmaceuticals for life.

Sam Tripoli 32:43 Whoo. You think it's purposeful? So how would they engineer that to, to happen that way?

Joe Rogan 32:49 Through s- Well, first of all, your, your grandparents, your parents telling you the, the trauma of, o- of your past, beating that into you forever. Like, I, I had, uh, I had my buddy's girlfriend on my show, and she's Jewish, and she was telling me, I go, "What's it like to grow up Jewish?" And she was telling me that her parents would tell her that she has to have three kids, one for each parent, and then one kid lost for the Holocaust, for, uh, someone lost in the Holocaust. And, like, think about that programming, dude. Think about what that th- over and over and over again, and to the point now where you're like, "Well, you know, these kids in Gaza are terrori- I mean, newborn babies are terrorists." I mean, that, that is heavy stuff. I mean, I've heard about the Armenian genocide my whole life to the point I got a tattoo right here about it. You know? Like, that is, you know, that is, that is your programming. Then you go to school and it's been infiltrated by all these culture Marxists, and they're just pushing this thing to get you to hate your own country, hate the establishment, hate all this stuff. So you have this entire country where everybody's fighting with each other, and that's all done to cause, uh, you know, maximum chaos, 'cause people are easy to manipulate and control when they're in a- anxiety. They're going to dema- And, like, this whole thing with, like, taking over Washington DC right now, everyone acts like this has just started. This started way back w- with BLM, the defund the cops. This has always been, b- been the goal. It's called pressure from above, pressure from below. You have n- You, you're afraid to go out on the streets and you have no faith that your politicians are gonna save you. So you, you have no hope, so you're completely and utterly lost and you're just demanding that you, you be kept safe, which is the ultimate goal, which is martial law. That's what they want and that's what they've been doing. And it isn't starting in Washington DC. This has started a while ago. If you study all these different kind of cultural clashes, that starts with BLM, that's Black people, then you go January 6th, that's white people, then you go to Asian hate, that's Asian people, then you go to No Kings, that's Latinos, and now you have the Supreme Court that is going to debate the legality of gay marriage. And if you go, "Sam, what do you th- what do you think is gonna happen?" I wouldn't see, I wouldn't doubt if they overturn it, 'cause that's gonna cause even more chaos. The streets are gonna be burning in rainbows, dude. And-

Sam Tripoli 35:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:07 And then that is what they want, martial law. There's all these la- you know, these judges who are completely politicized are, like, releasing people who are hurting kids or murdering people. That, that means you have no faith in the system, and that, that, that grows your anxiety. Now all of a sudden you're, you're angry, you're depressed, and you just, you don't trust anything. And ca- Now you want to basically give up your God-given rights to be safe. And that's, that is the goal. Pressure from above, pressure from below for Marxism. If you ever wanna watch a doc on it, it's really old, it's in '69, I watched it last night on Twitter. It's G. Edgar Griffin, and it's called The Capitalist Conspiracy. I've sent it to a bunch of people. I can't get anybody to watch this thing. And it breaks it down, dude. There was famous cases in the, y- like...... the s- the s- the '50s and '60s, where kids were, like, radical communists on the, on the campuses, and they said that, "Something's going wrong here." And they broke off, and they gave ... They testified in front of either Congress or Senate, and they basically said the goal is to basically bring in martial law. And these kids, who are all think they're raging against the machine, they don't realize the machine is funding all of this stuff. The, you know, it's like the No Kings.

Sam Tripoli 36:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 36:21 When it ca- the Latinos are really smart. Like, when Eddie and I do shows all the time, there's tons of Mexicans, tons of Latinos in the crowd. They get conspiracies. So when No Kings was happening in LA, there were, like, gang leaders who told their entire block, "Nobody can go to these things." Because they all found out it was funded by the Walmart heir. Like, that's what always happens. They al- the billionaires fund these kind of radical groups to sow chaos.

Sam Tripoli 36:50 Well, also because they don't want that kind of crackdown on illegal immigration. Like, there's a lot of people who don't want that kind of crackdown.

Joe Rogan 36:58 Yeah, because they don't wanna pay anything.

Sam Tripoli 37:00 Well, there's that, and they're already hiring people that are illegals, and they have 'em working in their factories and working in their, their businesses, you know? I mean, and then there was, there's also the dispute about SNAP, about, uh, you know, cutting back on Medicaid and SNAP, and, like, w- who get ... Who has ... Who do you have to pay benefits to? Who do you not have to pena- pay benefits to? That was one of the things that this guy was telling me about ... Someone told him that he had a conversa- ... He had a conversation with someone who said ... I was really upset they're stopping illegal immigration, because it's a big part of what he uses for his business. And e- he was, like, open about it, and he was saying that he does it because he doesn't have to pay them benefits. You can-

Joe Rogan 37:42 Yeah. (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 37:42 ... pay 'em less, and you don't have to pay 'em benefits. Like, he was just saying it out loud, you know? So that-

Joe Rogan 37:47 I-

Sam Tripoli 37:47 ... that was part of the thing, too, of letting people into the country. There was, like ... You need more of a supply of people that are willing to do the construction jobs and the, you know, the slaughterhouse jobs, like jobs that ... Nobody wants to work in the slaughterhouse, dude.

Joe Rogan 38:02 Right.

Sam Tripoli 38:02 You know? Like, that's-

Joe Rogan 38:04 Right. But I also hear them mos- always say, "Americans don't wanna do this job," and then my fat ass is going to fucking Wendy's at 11:00 PM, and I'm ordering a chicken sandwich, and the guy handing me the bag is 55 years old. I mean, Americans wanna work. That's a whole PSYOP that they don't wanna do some of these jobs.

Sam Tripoli 38:20 Sure, but tho- those jobs are brutal, back-breaking labor. All right? If you're picking vegetables, if you're, uh, you know, you're working in a fucking slaughterhouse, dude, that's a brutal job. Y- you're around rotten meat all day.

Joe Rogan 38:34 Yeah, I get that.

Sam Tripoli 38:35 It's freezing cold. You're cutting things up. You're covered in blood. You're just around death all day long. Death is supposed to be something you occasionally see, you fucking (smacks lips) kiss it to the sky, thank God for the deer, and then you go-

Joe Rogan 38:50 Yeah. (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 38:50 You're not supposed to see slaughter-

Joe Rogan 38:52 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 38:52 ... 24 hours a day.

Joe Rogan 38:53 Avatar is that shit, right?

Sam Tripoli 38:53 That's crazy. That's, like, not normal for a human being.

38:57 – 54:21

Movies, violence conditioning, and why people fight like they’re in an action scene

Joe Rogan 38:57 And what's really weird is how, like, I've seen so much death in movies that when I see a dead person, which I think the first time I saw a dead person, I would be incredibly shocked. I remember I was driving home from Vegas with my then girlfriend, and there was a giant car crash, like a giant car ... I mean, it was nasty.

Sam Tripoli 39:16 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 39:16 She's like, "Don't get out of the car," and I'm like, "I'm a hero," and I get out of the car to see what's, everything's okay. And this one card flipped, pa-pa-pa-pa-pa.

Sam Tripoli 39:24 Ooh.

Joe Rogan 39:24 And there was somebody laying there, and the car was on top of them.

Sam Tripoli 39:27 Oh.

Joe Rogan 39:28 And somebody ran over with a j- a, a, a, a carjack to, like, get it up. I go, "You're gonna, you're gonna look at something you're not ready to see right now." It's like, it's done.

Sam Tripoli 39:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:37 But, uh, what I was blown away by was how not affected by seeing that I was ... I, I, like I ... And it's the first time I'd seen, like, outside of a funeral, I'd seen a dead body, like, that just had a violent ending.

Sam Tripoli 39:52 Why do you think you weren't affected by it?

Joe Rogan 39:53 Because I think I've seen so many movies where I've just-

Sam Tripoli 39:57 Really?

Joe Rogan 39:57 ... seen dead people that it, it just was like a movie to me. And I didn't-

Sam Tripoli 40:01 Wow.

Joe Rogan 40:01 ... have any reaction to it. When the first days I moved to LA ... You know, I, I, I, I've lived in LA since '98, '99. And like I, I was back there in the crazy days on Hollywood Boulevard when it was still thriving. And there was this weird store, and inside you could smell death. And I looked in, and there was something laying down there. And again, not affected by it. I go, "I think that's a dead body." And the guy's like, "Get outta there. There's no dead body. Go away." But it smelled like death, but I still was, uh, really amazed ... That was probably the first time I saw a dead body, and then this was the second one. But I, I was just amazed by not how affected I was-

Sam Tripoli 40:38 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:38 ... by seeing this. Like I'd been programmed and conditioned to see these things, which normally back in the day would be a giant moment.

Sam Tripoli 40:47 I think a lot of people would be horrified by it. Maybe you're hardened by life, my man.

Joe Rogan 40:51 (laughs) Man, I've, I've had a-

Sam Tripoli 40:52 I think a lot of people would be pretty horrified. I don't know if it's necessarily deconditioning from movies.

Joe Rogan 40:57 Well, I can tell you something. So I used to do, uh, USO tours.

Sam Tripoli 41:00 Right.

Joe Rogan 41:01 And the first time I go, I think it was with Bryan Kellen this time. No, that wasn't my first one, but I, I do ... Yeah, that was the first one. I, I did it with Steve Byrne, Dov Davidoff, and Bryan Kellen. And we had this very nice man who was showing us around. He was our, kind of our leader of, of our tour. And he was telling me that in World War I, they, they found that the guys couldn't shoot the enemy 'cause they didn't wanna kill them. They didn't have it in them to kill another human being. So he says that's when you start to see, in movies, guns coming out and shooting people. It's programming.

Sam Tripoli 41:37 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 41:38 And that's when it got real- way easier to start shooting people. Now that you got these video games where you're just m- going in somewhere and you're merking everybody.

Sam Tripoli 41:47 And movies.

Joe Rogan 41:47 Y- and movies-

Sam Tripoli 41:48 Tons of movies.

Joe Rogan 41:48 ... and video games.

Sam Tripoli 41:49 Tons of movies. Tons of video games. We were just talking about that the other day when you see people getting in fights, like in parking lots and shit, that it's almost like people think life is a movie. Like you don't really understand what a fight is, like how dangerous it is and scary it is. And you're, you're doing it like, like it's ... like you're in a movie. Y- and I wonder i- how much of that is because people have seen people fight in movies, and they just don't ...... understand how crazy it is when there's no rules, and you're just hoping this guy fights worse than you do. You have no idea. You don't know what you're doing. You're probably drunk and high.

Joe Rogan 42:27 What about all the women?

Sam Tripoli 42:28 And you think, you think you're in a movie. You think you're in a fucking movie, man.

Joe Rogan 42:30 What about all the women that now are kicking everybody's ass? I'm flying here, and every movie is a, a waif model beating the shit out of a fucking 300-pound Russian.

Sam Tripoli 42:39 Oh, yeah. Those were always-

Joe Rogan 42:40 Every movie is.

Sam Tripoli 42:41 Those were always ridiculous.

Joe Rogan 42:41 And then you see videos where girls just go up and start swinging on guys and I'm like-

Sam Tripoli 42:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:45 ... it was Brian Holtzman's bit they used to do way back in the day.

Sam Tripoli 42:48 About Charlie's Angels.

Joe Rogan 42:50 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 42:50 Yeah, I remember that.

Joe Rogan 42:51 Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 42:52 (laughs) That was a great bit. That was a great bit. Holtzman's the best. It's so nice having him out here.

Joe Rogan 42:58 I love him.

Sam Tripoli 42:59 He's s- he's so crazy.

Joe Rogan 43:00 I wanna get out here.

Sam Tripoli 43:01 He's the best. Um, but yeah, that's a crazy thing to show in movies. I mean, I, it's one thing if the woman has, like, super powers, but if it's just a regular gal beating the shit outta some-

Joe Rogan 43:10 Who's 100 pounds too.

Sam Tripoli 43:12 ... 250-pound Russian dude with a, a neck as big as my waist. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:16 (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 43:17 Like, like what are we talking about? This is crazy. You're not gonna hurt him at all if you hit him.

Joe Rogan 43:22 I was watching on the fly over, I was watching the latest Mission Impossible and it's insane, dude. Have you ever seen it?

Sam Tripoli 43:29 I haven't seen the new one.

Joe Rogan 43:30 It's, it's amazing, bro.

Sam Tripoli 43:31 I bet.

Joe Rogan 43:31 Oh, dude. It just gets cranked up, cranked up, cranked up. But there's, like, two chicks in it, couldn't weigh more than 100 pounds, beating the shit out of everybody.

Sam Tripoli 43:39 Of course.

Joe Rogan 43:39 And I'm like, this is a, you need a cyborg type chick-

Sam Tripoli 43:42 Right, right, right.

Joe Rogan 43:43 ... if you're gonna have somebody, like, building-

Sam Tripoli 43:44 Amanda Nunes.

Joe Rogan 43:45 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 43:45 Yes.

Joe Rogan 43:45 That is-

Sam Tripoli 43:45 Flatlining dudes.

Joe Rogan 43:47 Yeah. (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 43:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:48 No neck s- uh, uh-

Sam Tripoli 43:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:49 ... Cyborg? Like that woman-

Sam Tripoli 43:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:51 ... Cyborg is like the Wilt Chamberlain of female MMA, where, like, you could drop her 20 years in the future and she'd still be murking people-

Sam Tripoli 43:58 Probably.

Joe Rogan 43:58 ... because she's, like, that well built and she's that skilled.

Sam Tripoli 44:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:01 Um, but that's who would be doing it.

Sam Tripoli 44:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:04 Not, like, like, not, like, 100-pound women.

Sam Tripoli 44:07 No. Kaylee Harrison.

Joe Rogan 44:09 Yeah, I think-

Sam Tripoli 44:09 She could fuck up some dudes.

Joe Rogan 44:11 How was she? 135, 145?

Sam Tripoli 44:12 Well, she has to weigh 135 for a very small amount of time, but she was the 155-pound champ in the PFL. She's a big lady.

Joe Rogan 44:20 Yeah, she's-

Sam Tripoli 44:21 She's jacked.

Joe Rogan 44:21 She's a juggernaut.

Sam Tripoli 44:22 She's super powerful. And you know-

Joe Rogan 44:24 I like that.

Sam Tripoli 44:24 ... when she gets ahold of these ladies, it's like the difference is so obvious. She's so fucking strong, man. Also, if that lady was in a movie fucking people up, I'd be like, "I believe it."

Joe Rogan 44:34 Oh, yeah. Totally makes sense.

Sam Tripoli 44:35 I believe it.

Joe Rogan 44:36 I, if I was a henchman, I'd be like, "I'm running. This bitch is big."

Sam Tripoli 44:38 With some supermodel waif in eight-inch heels who's fucking throwing sidekicks that are perfect. Like, come the fuck on. Stop.

Joe Rogan 44:45 I used to have a joke about Keira Knightley in, uh, Pirates of the Caribbean. She's, like, fighting everybody. I'm like, "The only thing that chick's fighting is anorexia." You know what I'm saying?

Sam Tripoli 44:53 (warbling)

Joe Rogan 44:53 There we go. Working bits in. (imitates whiplash) Yeah. So sh- you know, it's just, everything's programming, dude.

Sam Tripoli 44:59 Well, it is, but I wonder if it's because we like that stuff because it fits in our head in, uh, like Joseph Campbell's, Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey. Like, it fits in our head. We want someone to kick their ass and then w- then you win in the end. Yeah, you go through your trials and oh, he, he hit her. Oh my God, she's bleeding, but she kicks his ass at the end.

Joe Rogan 45:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sam Tripoli 45:20 Yes.

Joe Rogan 45:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sam Tripoli 45:21 There's this thing that we wanna see. We want it all ni- nicely tied up in a bow. (smooches) We want it to be perfect.

Joe Rogan 45:27 Yeah, I mean, like Sigourney Weaver used to do it, but there was something about her where you believed it. You're like, "That's a bad bitch."

Sam Tripoli 45:32 Well-

Joe Rogan 45:32 "And she's gonna fuck people up."

Sam Tripoli 45:34 But she did it in the greatest science fiction movie of all time. She did it in Alien. Alien is the greatest sci-fi horro- it was the, I'll say sci-fi horror. Greatest sci-fi horror movie.

Joe Rogan 45:43 Yeah, it was amazing.

Sam Tripoli 45:44 Of all time. Of all time. And you didn't even care that it was a woman that was the lead. It didn't even come up. It was so awesome that no one, like, made a big deal. "Sigourney Weaver. Finally, a woman takes the lead role in an action sci-"

Joe Rogan 45:59 Yeah, yeah. Yep, yep.

Sam Tripoli 45:59 No one cared. No one cared.

Joe Rogan 46:00 No one cared.

Sam Tripoli 46:00 It was just awesome.

Joe Rogan 46:01 She was great.

Sam Tripoli 46:01 It was just awesome. She was awesome. The movie was awesome. She got credit for being awesome put, just for being awesome. Not an awesome woman or any, no caveats.

Joe Rogan 46:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sam Tripoli 46:10 It's like, come on.

Joe Rogan 46:11 Yep.

Sam Tripoli 46:11 It's, it was, you could do that in 1979. You could just have an amazing movie 'cause there was no fucking social media. There was no henhouse. (imitates clucking)

Joe Rogan 46:23 (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 46:23 And you think that they make sense. They don't make any sense.

Joe Rogan 46:26 Yep, yep.

Sam Tripoli 46:26 Like, stop. If we could just stop concentrating on fucking the- these stupid little classifications of each individual and whether or not they should be elevated and magnified because of gender or sex or color or what ... Stop. Everyone stop participating in it. It's dumb.

Joe Rogan 46:48 I th-

Sam Tripoli 46:48 Meritocracy. Meritocracy ...

Joe Rogan 46:50 I would love that.

Sam Tripoli 46:51 ... for personality. Meritocracy for the way you can hold a conversation with people. Meritocracy for being, uh, a better musician. Meritocracy for being a funnier comedian. Meritocracy. Everybody's the same. Even playing field in terms of acceptance of what you do in the world. Just do your best.

Joe Rogan 47:10 Yeah, we want the best.

Sam Tripoli 47:11 Let the best rise everywhere.

Joe Rogan 47:14 I don't know, because maybe we didn't know as much about it, but, like, when I think of the '70s-

Sam Tripoli 47:18 Maybe you'd be happier if someone who looked like you came to save you from the fire.

Joe Rogan 47:20 100%. I couldn't give a shit. A lesbian-

Sam Tripoli 47:23 They'll be more comfortable if they see someone looking like them.

Joe Rogan 47:26 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 47:26 Like, "What? No."

Joe Rogan 47:27 "What the fu-"

Sam Tripoli 47:27 "My house is on fire."

Joe Rogan 47:28 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 47:28 "I'm not gonna be comfortable." (laughs) Like, "What are you talking about?" "You can't carry me." "I broke my leg. What do I do?"

Joe Rogan 47:33 Yeah. (laughs) Yeah, well-

Sam Tripoli 47:34 Well, you should've thought about that before you got yourself-

Joe Rogan 47:35 Yeah, you're in the wrong place.

Sam Tripoli 47:37 ... in the first place. (sighs)

Joe Rogan 47:38 It's crazy. Like, uh, Apple TV is putting out insanely great programming, but you don't realize how woke it is until you're already captured, right?

Sam Tripoli 47:47 Right.

Joe Rogan 47:47 And then you're like, "Whoa. What did I just watch?" Like, I was watching Hijack and I forget the name of the actor-

Sam Tripoli 47:52 That's the Marky Mark movie?

Joe Rogan 47:53 No, no, no. It was a TV show on Apple TV.

Sam Tripoli 47:55 Oh.

Joe Rogan 47:55 And it was the British, Black British actor, uh, who was in The Wire. I forget what his name is. He's such a great ...

Sam Tripoli 48:02 Idris Elba.

Joe Rogan 48:03 Yeah. He's phenomenal, right?

Sam Tripoli 48:04 Oh, he's awesome in everything.

Joe Rogan 48:05 But I'm watching this show and then about five episodes in I realize this is the story of a Black man who stops white hijackers from hijacking a Middle Eastern plane.

Sam Tripoli 48:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:18 Right?... I, I... (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 48:24 Ah.

Joe Rogan 48:24 And you don't realize it til you're halfway in.

Sam Tripoli 48:26 Uh, what is the Mark Wahlberg one? The one that Mel Gibson directed? That one was good. That was another, like, some sort of a hijacking type situation, right?

Narrator 48:37 Flight Risk.

Sam Tripoli 48:37 What is it called? Flight Risk? Flight Risk, solid one. Wahlberg plays a great psycho.

Joe Rogan 48:44 Wahlberg is great, dude.

Narrator 48:47 Oh-

Sam Tripoli 48:47 He plays a great psycho. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:48 He's also very lucky-

Sam Tripoli 48:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:50 ... he didn't get on a plane on 9/11. How lucky is that guy?

Sam Tripoli 48:54 What are you, what are you trying to say? He got a heads up?

Joe Rogan 48:56 I'm just saying-

Sam Tripoli 48:57 How about people just get lucky sometimes, Sam? Geez.

Joe Rogan 48:59 Some people, him and Seth Ma- Set- Who did Family Guy? Seth Mc-

Sam Tripoli 49:05 Originally scheduled to be on American Airlines Flight 11. Wow. He changed his plans, took a different flight to Toronto, Canada for a film festival instead. Later he made comments how he would have fought back against the hijackers if he had been on that flight.

Joe Rogan 49:17 Yeah, I don't buy that story. Not his story. I buy he would fight back. I mean, he's shredded at this point. He's still shredded, but I don't buy that whole thing. They had box cutters. So, no, come on man.

Sam Tripoli 49:27 Yeah, what do you think happened? Do you think that it was-

Joe Rogan 49:30 (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 49:30 ... like automatically flown into the towers?

Joe Rogan 49:33 Uh-

Sam Tripoli 49:33 Like it was remote flown into the towers?

Joe Rogan 49:35 Oh, well, now you're getting into like-

Sam Tripoli 49:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:38 ... high impact events and how there's like layers. There's so many layers to it-

Sam Tripoli 49:43 Correct.

Joe Rogan 49:43 ... 'cause they have to ensure-

Sam Tripoli 49:44 But the actual hijacking itself, do you think that those guys that, that the, that we found luckily was like a, uh, amazing coincidence that even though everything from the plane was destroyed in an incredible burning inferno, his passport-

Joe Rogan 50:01 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 50:02 ... magically floated safely-

Joe Rogan 50:05 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 50:05 ... to the ground. Was it singed at all?

Joe Rogan 50:07 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 50:07 Was it even singed?

Joe Rogan 50:08 I have a show called Doomscrolling where we just watch all these conspiracy videos-

Sam Tripoli 50:12 Put that one-

Joe Rogan 50:12 ... and one of them, Passport Man-

Sam Tripoli 50:14 Put that one-

Joe Rogan 50:14 ... where they made a superhero just out of passports.

Sam Tripoli 50:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:19 (laughs) (clapping)

Sam Tripoli 50:19 (laughs) I mean, let's watch. Can... I mean, is, uh, I'm not, not to make light of a tragedy, but could we see the impact of one of the planes into the towers?

Narrator 50:28 Well, they found, they found four of the hijackers' passports.

Sam Tripoli 50:31 Oh, what a coincidence.

Joe Rogan 50:33 How lucky is that?

Sam Tripoli 50:33 It's... Well, sometimes you just get lucky. Maybe God was looking out for us. Can you show me the video of the impact? Can we just see the video? Let's just imagine being a passport and saying-

Joe Rogan 50:42 (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 50:42 "Listen, it's your job, it's your job-

Joe Rogan 50:44 You're nestled into the bottom.

Sam Tripoli 50:46 "... to get to the bottom." Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:46 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 50:46 Now all the other people onboard with passports, their passports, for whatever reason, didn't make it.

Joe Rogan 50:50 Burned up.

Sam Tripoli 50:50 Yeah, all those, like, American citizens with passports, yeah, they didn't make it.

Joe Rogan 50:54 So we can get into it, dude.

Sam Tripoli 50:55 All those people from other countries that were just here on vacation with their passports, yeah, the-the- those passports didn't make it. Just going to check out New York. Should be cool. Nope. So let's watch the impact. Watch this and imagine if you're a passport and you got to do your job. Here it goes.

Narrator 51:11 Live freeze. No.

Sam Tripoli 51:14 What happened?

Narrator 51:15 I don't know. It didn't... I'm not controlling it.

Sam Tripoli 51:16 Oh, that's what it did?

Narrator 51:18 There it is.

Joe Rogan 51:18 That's the first tower.

Sam Tripoli 51:18 Oh, they're not showing you the impact?

Narrator 51:19 I don't know. It showed it.

Sam Tripoli 51:20 You sons of bitches. But I wanna see the real one when it, like, flies into it.

Joe Rogan 51:23 Yeah, where you see it go bang and then it's... (imitates static)

Sam Tripoli 51:25 Yeah, see if you can find a, a video where it flies right into it. So... (sighs)

Narrator 51:31 Only one of those four were found at the World Trade Center. The other three were not there.

Sam Tripoli 51:35 How about 18 Views of Plane Impact on South Tower? This is like, you know, those cum compilations on porn?

Joe Rogan 51:41 Oh, dude, it's the only thing I gu-

Sam Tripoli 51:42 (laughs) We're just watching it.

Joe Rogan 51:43 By the way, 26 days off porn, everybody.

Sam Tripoli 51:45 Look at this.

Joe Rogan 51:46 27.

Sam Tripoli 51:46 Okay, that one it flew into the backside of it so you couldn't see it from that angle.

Joe Rogan 51:50 But you have that one where it's kind of up, like, here and then it, it goes in and then it, like, it's some weird...

Sam Tripoli 51:58 Okay, here it is. Let's watch this one. Okay, so no, we're seeing it from the other side too, but I've seen it from the other way. I've seen the plane actually fly in.

Joe Rogan 52:07 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 52:07 Someone had that angle, right?

Joe Rogan 52:08 Yeah, it's from below up.

Sam Tripoli 52:10 Is that it right there, Jim?

Narrator 52:11 I'm in the, just, uh...

Sam Tripoli 52:12 Try that one.

Narrator 52:13 I'm just...

Sam Tripoli 52:13 Try that real quick.

Narrator 52:14 Okay.

Sam Tripoli 52:14 I know. I'm just saying. That's it.

Joe Rogan 52:16 Yeah, but-

Sam Tripoli 52:16 Okay. That's it.

Joe Rogan 52:17 Yeah, if you slow that thing down, it's-

Sam Tripoli 52:18 Okay.

Joe Rogan 52:18 Look.

Sam Tripoli 52:19 But look, there's some papers flying out. Look. Boom, and look at all the papers. That ain't papers, that's glass, bitch. There's no way a passport is making it through that. First of all, there's nothing left. That's just goo and incineration and fire-

Joe Rogan 52:35 Yep.

Sam Tripoli 52:35 ... and jet fuel. And the, the jets had just took, taken off, correct?

Joe Rogan 52:39 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 52:40 And so they had a full... They took off from Boston, which is very close.

Joe Rogan 52:43 We're very close.

Sam Tripoli 52:44 And so they had f-... a lot of gasoline. How the fuck is a passport? How, how many passports were saved?

Narrator 52:51 One, that one was found below the World Trade Center. Two were found in the crash site in Pennsylvania and one was found in luggage that didn't even make the connecting flight.

Sam Tripoli 53:00 Okay, well that's different.

Narrator 53:01 Right.

Sam Tripoli 53:01 And then they ke- But the fire is the big one. The, the crash, one fir- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:05 (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 53:05 ... that, that one's like, that's the magic bullet on steroids.

Joe Rogan 53:08 That-

Sam Tripoli 53:08 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 53:09 And then somehow it took out those two and then two other buildings. Nobody talks about building five.

Sam Tripoli 53:15 Okay, here's a big one. The one, um, that, uh-

Joe Rogan 53:19 Buildings two?

Sam Tripoli 53:19 Let's roll. The let's roll one. They shot that out of the sky, right?

Joe Rogan 53:25 (sighs) I mean, I have theories.

Sam Tripoli 53:27 But doesn't that one seem like they shot that one out of the sky?

Joe Rogan 53:29 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 53:30 'Cause that one is weird because the wreckage is spread out for miles. Not like it crashed into the ground, but like it got shot out of the sky and slowly drifted to Earth going 500 miles an hour.

Joe Rogan 53:45 (smacks lips) Yeah, and then all the-

Sam Tripoli 53:46 What, what about he... What is this? That's his passport?

Narrator 53:47 I mean that's a pass... Um, just 9/11 passports-

Sam Tripoli 53:49 Is that it?

Narrator 53:50 ... that I looked up.

Sam Tripoli 53:51 Do they actually have the photo of it?

Narrator 53:52 It's a pretty burnt passport.

Sam Tripoli 53:54 Yeah, It's pretty burnt but come on son.

Joe Rogan 53:56 How about how weird is that that, uh, uh, in Neo's driver's license is the day of the attacks.

Sam Tripoli 54:01 Also, like, what would cause a passport that's on fire to not be on fire anymore? Just curious. Why would it stop at his face? (laughs) Just curious. I mean, once things are on fire and they're made out of paper and plastic, generally they don't stop being on fire until there's nothing else to burn. How does it stop-... halfway to his face.

54:21 – 1:04:03

Wildfire conspiracies collide with mundane causes: PG&E, smart meters, and “cigar-shaped” sightings

Joe Rogan 54:21 Well, that... Well, how about all these fire... This is the big debate on my tin foil hat. We, we debate it all the time. You have all these houses that are insinuated, and then there's all these trees that are perfectly fine. So, then you get into the debate, like, what causes fire? Oh, it's drought. Okay, but why are the trees okay? 'Cause they have water in them. Well, is, are we in a drought, or do we have water? And that's when you get into vibrations, dude. Like, high-

Sam Tripoli 54:45 Oh.

Joe Rogan 54:45 ... frig... You know, like... Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 54:46 Vibrations?

Joe Rogan 54:47 Like, radio waves and stu- stuff like that. That's... Th- they could... Dude, everyone thinks it's a direct... Uh, uh, that's a big part of this, that people think it's direct energy weapons.

Sam Tripoli 54:56 Hold on, hold on, hold on. You're... You think fires are caused by radio waves, is what you're saying?

Joe Rogan 54:59 Like, like, you know, dr... Well, some people-

Sam Tripoli 55:01 We're going down a rabbit hole.

Joe Rogan 55:04 Okay, so I, I wanted to tell you this story. So, right around the Paradise fires, right after that, Eddie and I are doing Tin Foil Hat. We do Bakersfield first, and then we go to, to Sacramento. In, in both, both shows, someone from PSG shows up.

Sam Tripoli 55:20 What's PSG?

Joe Rogan 55:21 P, P, PG... PSE... What is the, the, uh... PG&E, excuse me. The, the people who have the smart meters on all of these houses. They're the ones who run the electricity and the power for all of California. First, first show we do in Fre... In, in, in Bakersfield, a bunch of guys who look like Zero Dark Thirty show up. They're like, "Yeah, w- we work at PG&E." I'm like, "Oh, that's super interesting, 'cause that just happened." Then the next night I'm in S- Sacramento, and I remember this very well because it was the last night I ever drank alcohol, ever in my life. There was some hot blonde with a fat rack.

Sam Tripoli 55:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:58 (laughs) And I'm like, "Today my sobriety goes away." So, I have a shot with her. She tells me she's from PG&E. So, both nights in a row, we have people show up to our show from this company that everybody says could behind... Um, could be behind it with these smart meters, okay? So-

Sam Tripoli 56:14 Can I ask you a question before you go on?

Joe Rogan 56:16 How big were her tits?

Sam Tripoli 56:17 This is... You're in Bakersfield, is that what you're saying?

Joe Rogan 56:19 The, the first show is Bakersfield. That's where the second show-

Sam Tripoli 56:21 And where's the second show?

Joe Rogan 56:22 Sacramento.

Sam Tripoli 56:23 And where do these people work? Where's their building? Like, where are they-

Joe Rogan 56:26 I mean, PG&E's all over California.

Sam Tripoli 56:28 Right.

Joe Rogan 56:29 So, they were at different offices.

Sam Tripoli 56:30 Both of those places, a lot of people don't go to, right? Like, it's... When you... Like, when people go... When, when we'd do a show in Bakersfield, back when I lived in LA, they'd be like, "Holy shit, someone came out here."

Joe Rogan 56:41 Right.

Sam Tripoli 56:41 Like, no one goes out there.

Joe Rogan 56:42 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 56:42 So that's... I would imagine if you're at PG&E and you're stuck in some podunk fucking town.

Joe Rogan 56:46 I mean, it's possible. It's very weird that two shows in two nights. I'm just saying it's-

Sam Tripoli 56:52 It's okay.

Joe Rogan 56:52 ... it's super interesting.

Sam Tripoli 56:53 It's a little weird, but it's also... It's like, those people that work for these organizations-

Joe Rogan 56:57 They live life.

Sam Tripoli 56:57 ... they're probably just regular people living lives and they like your show too.

Joe Rogan 57:00 Well, I like, I like conspiracy, so I like to think that-

Sam Tripoli 57:02 I know you do.

Joe Rogan 57:03 ... it's, it's something-

Sam Tripoli 57:03 I just like to put the brakes on some of them.

Joe Rogan 57:05 So... (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 57:07 (laughs) Unless the... With the radio waves causing fires is gonna be a problem.

Joe Rogan 57:10 Okay. So-

Sam Tripoli 57:10 "On Wednesday, Pacific Gas & Electric revealed to federal judges that its utility equipment issues may have caused fires in some California counties, including Kern County. According to the court documents, May 30th and 31st, Bellridge fire burned 53 acres after a power line fell, causing the grass to catch on fire. The documents also said that a PG&E worker had identified a broken tie wire but was not fixed in time." So, this is from 2019, right?

Joe Rogan 57:36 So-

Sam Tripoli 57:37 "Caused fires including Fresno, Mariposa, and Butte." Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:44 So, so, I had somebody hit me up one time, and they were talking about how there's a, there's a weird percentage that insurance companies do on whether your house could catch on fire.

Sam Tripoli 57:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:58 Right?

Sam Tripoli 57:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:59 And fire insurance and stuff like that. She-

Sam Tripoli 58:01 It's brutal in California now. You can't get fire insurance.

Joe Rogan 58:04 Well, she was telling me that everyone on her block had a, like, a really high rating except for her house. And I go, "Well, does your house have a smart meter on it?" She goes, "No. I'm the only one on the block that doesn't have a smart meter on it." She goes, "Holy shit," right? So, what's really interesting about the Sacramento show besides the big-titted PG&E person, or the whatever-

Sam Tripoli 58:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:30 ... is, is I'm outside on the balcony, right? I'm outside on the patio talking to everybody after a show. And this woman comes up to me, and she goes, "You know, I live in paradise." I go, "Really?" I, I go, "What happens?" She goes, "I have to tell you this story." She goes, "I was just chilling there," like on her porch or something like that, and she looked up and she saw this, like, silver cigar thing in the sky, right? Just silver cigar thing. And she said, "Lights were going back and forth, back and forth." And this is right before the fires. "Back and forth." And then she said, "Suddenly, the lights all just went boom," and then there were fires everywhere. And I stopped thinking about this story a long time ago. Then suddenly, videos now are popping up all over Twitter. If you go to my Twitter, samtripoli.com, there's a video right now of a guy playing catch with his dog.

Sam Tripoli 59:18 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:18 And he throws the frisbee. And when the kid... The dog goes up to grab the frisbee, suddenly you see something just fly through the air that is a silver, like, cigar-looking thing.

Sam Tripoli 59:29 Okay, let me see this video because there was a time where Eddie Bravo and I got way too high, and we thought that rods were flying through the air. We watched this documentary on rods. Do you remember rods?

Joe Rogan 59:40 I, I, no, I don't.

Sam Tripoli 59:40 Okay. You're-

Joe Rogan 59:42 (coughs) .

Sam Tripoli 59:42 You didn't... You got into conspiracies a little later, son.

Joe Rogan 59:45 I've always been in conspiracies, but-

Sam Tripoli 59:46 This was, this was one of the dumb ones.

Joe Rogan 59:48 (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 59:48 This was a really dumb one. So, there's these things that supposedly flew so fast through the sky-

Joe Rogan 59:53 Watch this video.

Sam Tripoli 59:53 ... that you could only see them, uh, uh, uh, in video footage. You couldn't see them with the naked eye. Turns out what it was was bugs flying quickly close through where the lens is, and it's a video artifact. So, it stretches these bugs out and makes them look like rods-

Joe Rogan 1:00:10 Right.

Sam Tripoli 1:00:10 ... that are flying through the air.

Joe Rogan 1:00:11 Right.

Sam Tripoli 1:00:11 It's just 'cause the video's not that good. So, there was a show... I forget the show. Something finding monsters or something like that on the History Channel, I believe. One of those shows. You know those shows?

Joe Rogan 1:00:20 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 1:00:21 And they were trying to find out what rods were, so they set up cameras just so... To try to see if they could capture them in film, and then they set up a super high-speed camera in the same location. And they did it over, like, a little campfire so that bugs would be flying around. And every... I think it was a campfire. Whatever, some kind of a light where bugs were flying around, and then they were filming it. And then on the high-speed camera, you could clearly see it was bugs. But on the low-speed camera, it looked like aliens. Like, these things are long, tubular things we've never identified flying through the air, but it's just video artifacts.

Joe Rogan 1:00:53 Okay. I... If this thing slows it down, it doesn't look like a bug.

Sam Tripoli 1:00:57 Let's see it.

Joe Rogan 1:00:58 ... did you find it? It's like, uh, it was like one of the newer videos I put on that talked-

Sam Tripoli 1:01:02 What do you think it is? You think it's a UFO?

Narrator 1:01:03 It kinda looks like a bug.

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 Well, I don't believe in UFOs.

Sam Tripoli 1:01:06 Oh, well then if it's-

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 Do you know that we've had-

Sam Tripoli 1:01:09 ... trying to identify-

Joe Rogan 1:01:09 ... flying crafts that have been going 200 miles an hour before the Civil War?

Sam Tripoli 1:01:13 We could talk about-

Joe Rogan 1:01:14 Here it is.

Sam Tripoli 1:01:15 Give me a moment. We'll talk about that in a moment.

Joe Rogan 1:01:16 Okay, so-

Narrator 1:01:16 I'm sure it isn't real. This one look real time, but-

Sam Tripoli 1:01:18 Okay. Here's a dog.

Narrator 1:01:19 ... zoomed in and-

Sam Tripoli 1:01:20 Bro, that dog's gangster. That's a good steep ledge.

Narrator 1:01:22 You see it?

Joe Rogan 1:01:23 So, you see it? Okay.

Sam Tripoli 1:01:23 Okay, let me see it again.

Joe Rogan 1:01:24 And then th- just let it play because it shows you what it is.

Sam Tripoli 1:01:26 Okay.

Narrator 1:01:27 It looks like a bug.

Sam Tripoli 1:01:28 Yeah. Let me see. Mm. Sam, that's a bug.

Joe Rogan 1:01:37 You think that's a bug?

Sam Tripoli 1:01:38 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:39 Okay, he's gonna slow it down. You think-

Sam Tripoli 1:01:40 I think it's a fast moving bug. Do you think, uh, there's... That thing behind it, is that... Here's the thing, is that the inability of the video to catch it? Because it doesn't seem like it 'cause the video is catching it. I don't know enough about, uh, high speed filming or about what this is, the slo-mo filming. Man, the blurry shit behind it's weird.

Narrator 1:02:11 What blurry shit?

Sam Tripoli 1:02:12 You know, where it looks like it almost has like a, a jet coming out of the back?

Narrator 1:02:16 Ah, no, no.

Joe Rogan 1:02:16 I think that that's all part of it.

Sam Tripoli 1:02:19 What do you think that is? What do you think that is, Jamie?

Narrator 1:02:20 It's a bug.

Sam Tripoli 1:02:21 Right, but what's that trail behind?

Narrator 1:02:22 The wings.

Joe Rogan 1:02:22 You think that's a bug?

Narrator 1:02:23 The wings. Looks like a fucking (imitating engine roaring)

Sam Tripoli 1:02:25 Yeah, as it's moving fast, so it's stretched out as a video artifact just like the rods thing. Yeah.

Narrator 1:02:30 I wouldn't even say a full video art... It just looks like the wings of a bug, and it's like there's the body, and it's got some giant wings.

Joe Rogan 1:02:35 I don't believe that.

Sam Tripoli 1:02:35 Yeah, but what kind of bug looks like that?

Joe Rogan 1:02:37 And what kind of bug makes that fast?

Narrator 1:02:39 You know, I'll show you. I have them here.

Sam Tripoli 1:02:40 But I mean, I think it's a perspective thing. I think the bug moves... Bugs move pretty fucking fast, dude.

Joe Rogan 1:02:45 Yeah, but-

Sam Tripoli 1:02:46 But bugs moving fast in the right direction with-

Joe Rogan 1:02:49 And that far away?

Sam Tripoli 1:02:50 'Cause it's little.

Joe Rogan 1:02:51 You're gonna see it that far away?

Sam Tripoli 1:02:53 Because it's little. It's so little that as it passes by, it gets small so quickly and gives you the illusion of more speed. Because it's so little, it vis- it disappears quickly. Like you ever see a mosquito and you see it floating through the air and then it's gone... You can't find the fucker?

Joe Rogan 1:03:09 Right.

Sam Tripoli 1:03:09 'Cause there's too little.

Joe Rogan 1:03:10 Right. I understand that.

Sam Tripoli 1:03:10 So they just... Once they go a certain distance away, it's like they went a million miles away.

Joe Rogan 1:03:13 But look how far away that is. I mean, that is way far away.

Sam Tripoli 1:03:16 I think it went right over the camera. That's what I think happened. I think it went right over the camera and I think within a couple of seconds... Like look where it goes. It's like right-

Joe Rogan 1:03:26 It's gone.

Sam Tripoli 1:03:26 I think it's right over the camera in the right direction.

Joe Rogan 1:03:30 (laughing)

Sam Tripoli 1:03:30 And I think it only takes like, you know, a millisecond for a fucking bug to do that.

Joe Rogan 1:03:35 I think it's something.

Sam Tripoli 1:03:36 Let's see it again. Watch, here it goes.

Joe Rogan 1:03:39 Stop it at its farthest point.

Sam Tripoli 1:03:40 Let's just not stop it. Here it goes.

Narrator 1:03:42 It's already gone.

Sam Tripoli 1:03:43 It's already gone.

Joe Rogan 1:03:44 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 1:03:45 That is pretty fast. Okay, I changed my mind.

Joe Rogan 1:03:49 (laughing)

Sam Tripoli 1:03:49 It's an alien.

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 But-

Sam Tripoli 1:03:51 Uh, maybe, you know, maybe there's a c- type of bug that I'm not aware of that moves really fast though.

Joe Rogan 1:03:58 But you know-

Sam Tripoli 1:03:58 Where is that, where is that supposedly?

Joe Rogan 1:04:00 I don't know where that comes from. I-

Sam Tripoli 1:04:01 That means a lot. Like we need to know where it is.

1:04:03 – 1:09:21

Pre-Civil War “airships,” secret tech timelines, and how ‘hidden history’ arguments are built

Joe Rogan 1:04:03 But they've had, they've had crafts since before the Civil War. They were building t- crafts that went 200 miles an hour.

Sam Tripoli 1:04:10 (inhaling smoke) Okay, who's they and where did you hear about this?

Joe Rogan 1:04:12 Well, the US government-

Sam Tripoli 1:04:13 Before the Civil War?

Joe Rogan 1:04:14 Yeah, yeah.

Sam Tripoli 1:04:15 So before 1865-

Joe Rogan 1:04:17 Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 1:04:18 ... they had crafts-

Joe Rogan 1:04:19 Yes.

Sam Tripoli 1:04:19 ... that could go 200 miles an hour in the air?

Joe Rogan 1:04:21 Yes, yes.

Sam Tripoli 1:04:22 Who m- who made them?

Joe Rogan 1:04:23 You could look it up. Uh, pre-Civil War, uh, aircrafts. They... Well, there was a j- gr- a gro- a bunch of like German scientists in America that were working with the US government.

Sam Tripoli 1:04:36 So this predates Orville Wright?

Joe Rogan 1:04:37 Y- I'm just telling you, bro.

Sam Tripoli 1:04:39 Right? Doesn't it?

Joe Rogan 1:04:39 Yes. Yeah.

Sam Tripoli 1:04:40 Okay.

Joe Rogan 1:04:40 I, I don't know. I don't know dates.

Sam Tripoli 1:04:41 I think it does, right? Isn't Orville and Wilbur Wright, isn't that the end of the 1800s? When was that? You know what? I love that. You can just ask your phone. I'll ask my phone.

Joe Rogan 1:04:52 I love it. Go on ChatGPT.

Sam Tripoli 1:04:54 When did Orville and Wilbur Wright fly the first plane? 1903. So you're telling me that in 1865...

Joe Rogan 1:05:07 Yep. I'm telling you.

Sam Tripoli 1:05:09 In 1865 they had flying crafts that go...

Joe Rogan 1:05:12 I've done multiple shows on it.

Sam Tripoli 1:05:12 Well, as long as you've done multiple shows on it, it must be true.

Joe Rogan 1:05:14 Brother, I'm the truth, okay? (laughing)

Sam Tripoli 1:05:17 (laughing) Where the fuck did you hear this?

Joe Rogan 1:05:19 I did... I had two guy... Joseph P. Farrell was on and he's like amazing and he was breaking down that th- that there were j-

Sam Tripoli 1:05:25 What is, uh, Joseph P. Farrell's area of expertise?

Joe Rogan 1:05:28 Uh, hidden history. He does a lot in, uh, religion particularly.

Sam Tripoli 1:05:32 Is he self- self-taught?

Joe Rogan 1:05:34 No, he's r- dude, he's really a great interview, man.

Sam Tripoli 1:05:37 I believe you.

Joe Rogan 1:05:38 I mean, he's a great-

Sam Tripoli 1:05:38 But I mean, is he self-taught? Does he have like a traditional-

Joe Rogan 1:05:40 Will you look it up real quick? Yeah.

Narrator 1:05:41 I'm looking at it right now.

Sam Tripoli 1:05:42 ... education in this stuff or is it just-

Joe Rogan 1:05:44 Yeah. He's written like a thousand books on it.

Sam Tripoli 1:05:46 A thousand?

Joe Rogan 1:05:46 Th- that's a lot of books, dude. I can barely read one book.

Sam Tripoli 1:05:50 (laughing)

Joe Rogan 1:05:50 I'm stuck on Alexander II right now.

Sam Tripoli 1:05:52 And what is he saying?

Joe Rogan 1:05:54 He's saying that in the eighte- in the b- pre-Civil War and during the Civil War, they had crafts that were traveling at 200 miles an hour.

Sam Tripoli 1:06:02 Okay. And, um...

Joe Rogan 1:06:04 You can find pictures of it on the internet.

Narrator 1:06:06 I'm looking up Joseph P. Farrell.

Sam Tripoli 1:06:06 Well, as long as he has pictures on the internet, I guess.

Joe Rogan 1:06:07 Well, there's drawings, dude. Someone took time.

Sam Tripoli 1:06:09 As long as there's drawings, it must be real.

Joe Rogan 1:06:10 Come on, man. Well, I... Jamie, you're leaving me here, hanging here.

Sam Tripoli 1:06:12 No, he'll get you.

Narrator 1:06:13 I haven't found nothing about it.

Sam Tripoli 1:06:13 He'll get you. It's gotta be legit.

Joe Rogan 1:06:15 It's there.

Sam Tripoli 1:06:15 It sounds so legit. Um-

Joe Rogan 1:06:17 Will you look up tinfoil hat Joseph P. Farrell?

Sam Tripoli 1:06:20 Why would they wait so many years before they flew the first very primitive plane that could barely get off the ground and credit those guys with developing the per- the first plane?

Narrator 1:06:29 You didn't say plane. You said aircraft.

Sam Tripoli 1:06:31 Oh, that's true.

Joe Rogan 1:06:31 Thank you.

Sam Tripoli 1:06:32 Oh, so is it like a blimp?

Narrator 1:06:33 Okay, I'm, I'm trying to dig down.

Sam Tripoli 1:06:35 Listen to Jamie getting all pissy.

Joe Rogan 1:06:36 (laughing)

Narrator 1:06:36 I'm just saying. This... It could not be a plane.

Joe Rogan 1:06:39 Mom, dad, stop.

Sam Tripoli 1:06:40 It's true. It's true. No, it's a good point. Yeah, I c- it could be a blimp, right? Like when did they first start doing blimps? When did that start happening?

Narrator 1:06:47 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:06:48 Well, wasn't that the whole point of like Led Zeppelin that they didn't want people getting on blimps so they like crashed that shit? (laughing) Everyone thinks I'm crazy. You guys think I'm nuts. I'm just telling you, bro.

Sam Tripoli 1:06:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:06:59 Everything's a psyop.

Sam Tripoli 1:07:00 I love it. I love, I wanna hear more psyops. I'd, I'd rather go that way than the other way. That nothing's a psyop. I wanna hear that everything's a psyop.

Joe Rogan 1:07:06 Everything's a psy... I c- I, I, dude, someone should do conspiracy news. It would be 10 times better than what you see on television.

Sam Tripoli 1:07:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:13 I was watching, like, my girlfriend can't stop watching MSNBC. Doesn't matter how much they lie to her. She's, like, dug in, and that's their team.

Sam Tripoli 1:07:20 (sings)

Joe Rogan 1:07:20 Right? And so I'm listening to Rachel Maddow the other day, talking about, like, demonizing RFK Jr. about MRNA vaccines, right?

Sam Tripoli 1:07:28 Yeah. You want a cigar? Do you smoke cigars, bro?

Joe Rogan 1:07:30 No, I don't, dude.

Sam Tripoli 1:07:31 All right. But I'll put another Zyn in. Get it. Get it. Get that Zyn. Um, pl- please continue. Don't let me interrupt.

Joe Rogan 1:07:40 So, so she ... You wanna try one?

Sam Tripoli 1:07:41 No, I'm good. I'm good.

Joe Rogan 1:07:42 So, sh- Rachel Maddow, who, who just completely told everybody, "If you get the, the vaccine, there's 100% chance you won't get COVID," you know, is now telling everybody how important MRNA vaccines are. It's like-

Sam Tripoli 1:07:57 Well, she was only off by 100%.

Joe Rogan 1:07:58 (laughs)

Sam Tripoli 1:07:59 Give her a break. It's hard. It was a trying time. We didn't know, you know? There were mistakes made.

Joe Rogan 1:08:04 How did I know? I'm a dick joke comic who's functionally illiterate.

Sam Tripoli 1:08:07 Mist- mistakes were made.

Joe Rogan 1:08:09 Not on my part.

Sam Tripoli 1:08:10 Yeah. No. Well, it's just, it was weird to me, where a lot of lefties all of a sudden were trusting the pharmaceutical drug companies.

Joe Rogan 1:08:16 It's really weird, right?

Sam Tripoli 1:08:17 I'm like, "What happened, guys?" Like, what, what did we use to believe in? We used to think that, that big pharma was, like, trying to make money, and you should really be taking organic food and, you know, taking vitamins and eat- eating healthy and drinking water and d- going to yoga. Like, what happened? What happened? And everybody's like, "Inject me." What happened?

Joe Rogan 1:08:35 And then in the ... You know, I live in California where they're all about my body, my choice, except for when it comes to vaccines.

Sam Tripoli 1:08:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:08:41 And I had arguments with people. I'm like, "I thought you were my body, my ch- choice, and now you're telling me I have to take a vaccine." They're like, "It's different." It's not.

Sam Tripoli 1:08:49 No.

Joe Rogan 1:08:49 It's not at all. None of it.

Sam Tripoli 1:08:51 It seemed like it was to some people at the time. Because some people got way more anxious about the pandemic than other people. And those people, just, they, they reacted so strongly. They thought these other people that weren't doing the right thing were fucking it up for everybody because that's what they believed at the time. The problem is most of those people have never kind of owned up to what they did because they were wrong. And it wa- we did get hoodwinked and there's still people that are trying to defend it and, like, stop trying to defend it. The, the, the, the data's out. It didn't stop

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