Joe Rogan Experience #2373 - Dave Landau

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Yeah, dog, what up?

   3. DLDave Landau0:14

      There we go.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      What's up?

   5. DLDave Landau0:15

      How you doing?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Good to see you, brother.

   7. DLDave Landau0:16

      Good to see you, sir.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      What's crackalackin'?

   9. DLDave Landau0:18

      Not much. Just rocking the Shinola. (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       (laughs) I thought that you were talking about your Shinola watch.

   11. DLDave Landau0:23

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       I'm, I'm glad Detroit's coming back, you know, and I like, I like how Shinola represents.

   13. DLDave Landau0:29

       Shinola is definitely one of the things that's great about Detroit.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Yeah, they say it, like, "Made in Detroit." They're proud.

   15. DLDave Landau0:34

       Yes, which we didn't have for a long time.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       (clicks tongue) Dude.

   17. DLDave Landau0:37

       Like, some of-

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Detroit is the craziest story. If you know the story about Detroit, like, in the 1950s and '60s, it was the third-richest city in the world.

   19. DLDave Landau0:46

       Well, yeah, it was called the Paris of the Midwest. And it's a city that's still built for seven million people with supposedly 700,000 living in it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       (sighs) Psh.

   21. DLDave Landau0:55

       I mean, so you do see a lot of, like, "How is there, like, a million-dollar condo in the same place that has, like, eight abandoned other apartments?" It's cr- When you go downtown, it makes no sense logistically. How do they-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Do you ever watch that show Top Gear?

   23. DLDave Landau1:06

       Oh, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       With Jeremy Clarkson and the... I think it was, it was either Top Gear or it was maybe the, the, the one they did after that that they did for Amazon. But they went to Detroit, and they bought a house for $500.

   25. DLDave Landau1:18

       Yeah, you can. And there's also the people that buy them and open the door and get mauled by pit bulls.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       (laughs)

   27. DLDave Landau1:23

       Or you see the ones that, like, they're, they'll put a, a, like, a pumpkin pa- Like, they'll do an urban farm, which is hysterical, and you'll see, like, these hippies on the news, like, "They cut my face and stole my plums." And I'm sc- It's like, yeah, but you're in a crack neighborhood. Nobody wants your farm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       No, we're gentrifying.

   29. DLDave Landau1:40

       Yeah, isn't that what you guys want? And it's like, they don't want that at all.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:43

       (sighs) There's some delusional fucking people out there, dude. And what they did to Detroit, like, anybody that thinks that you should allow corporations to just take all the jobs and move them overseas, "Well, this is just, like, corporate decision-making, and it's prudent financial decision-making," and...
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Which- …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      That was at one point in time, 94% of the Earth's heroin supply was coming from the place that we were guarding. We were-

   2. DLDave Landau15:07

      Which-

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      ... literally guarding the poppy fields, military, US military, guarding the poppy fields that was supplying heroin to 94% of the Earth.

   4. DLDave Landau15:16

      That's insane. 'Cause the other part is, there's a part in China, like some of the triangle. I'm trying to think of... It's... Oh, what's it called? But the rest is Afghanistan, and that's how you're getting every drug in the world into the US as far as like-

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:31

      Tsh.

   6. DLDave Landau15:31

      ... you know, actually making opioids.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:33

      Mm-hmm.

   8. DLDave Landau15:34

      'Cause in the '90s, I worked in a pharmacy, which was a great place for a drug addict, especially when they weren't counting the pills. You could do it by weight. So, you just say, like, "Hey, I gotta go, uh, take out the trash," and you'd just like open up a bottle of, like, Valium or Percocets and just, you know, fill your cellophane.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:49

      The Golden Triangle, the remote jungle-covered border b- region where Thailand, Myanmar, and L- Lao People's D- Democratic Republic meet has been... Has seen an exponential surge in the manufacture and traffic of synthetic drugs.

   10. DLDave Landau16:04

       Yes.

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       So, that's what it is. It's the Golden Triangle.

   12. DLDave Landau16:06

       That's what I was thinking of.

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       And that, uh, I guarantee you, that had a, um... There was a major reason why we were in Vietnam. There was so much money coming out of there. And the idea that some corrupt factions of e- e- either the military or the intelligence agencies or whoever it is. So... And I- I'm not saying the agencies or the military themselves, I'm saying corrupt factions, 'cause there's always gonna be those. Just like when the CIA sold drugs in South Central LA to pay for the Contras versus the Sandinistas. It's all real.

   14. DLDave Landau16:34

       Well, look at Detroit. When you look at White Boy Rick, White Boy Rick was somebody who was caught selling crack, and you had Coleman Young, the mayor, who was pretty corrupt, and then you had the FBI who caught him and said, "Hey, here's some more crack. Just go into the city and find out who the dealers are." Then when White Boy Rick got, uh, brought in by the c- the city, the FBI was like, "We didn't do that. We'd never put crack into a Black community. We don't know... We've never seen this kid in our life." So, this, this kid, uh, who's my cousin's friend, White Boy Rick, ends up going to prison, I don't know the exact time, for like 30 years. He's like 17. They try to name him as a kingpin. And again, he's a white boy in Detroit who's 17. He's not a kingpin of shit (laughs) . And he served the longest time because Coleman Young, uh, was pissed he was dating his niece.

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:23

       (laughs)

   16. DLDave Landau17:23

       So, he goes (laughs) ... He goes away, and then while he's in jail, they, uh, have him sign a thing that said he stole a car, so his sister didn't have to go to jail. So finally, they let him out for all this wrongdoing that he n- that he never did, this ama- this sentence that was batshit. And then he has to go right from that jail to Chicago to serve time for stealing a car while he was in prison.

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:47

       Oh.

   18. DLDave Landau17:48

       His story is crazy. There's a documentary called White Boy, and it's one... Yeah, that's the one with McConaughey, which is a good movie. Um-

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:56

       McConaughey was in the movie? (laughs)

   20. DLDave Landau17:57

       Yeah. McConaughey plays his dad. My uncle knew, knew the actual guy. He said he was like... He said he was kind of a dipshit. He would sell guns very obviously out of his basement. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:06

       Oh, God.

   22. DLDave Landau18:07

       They, they live, like, two blocks over.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:09

       So, is this guy alive now?

   24. DLDave Landau18:10

       Oh, he's still alive, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:11

       And is he out?

   26. DLDave Landau18:12

       Yeah, he's out.

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:13

       Is that White Boy Rick?

   28. DLDave Landau18:13

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan18:13

       That's him?

   30. DLDave Landau18:14

       That's him now. He got out-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah, it was the…

   1. DLDave Landau30:00

      it was, my friend Jay had it, and it was in high school.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      Yeah, it was the th- it had to be better to get people to shoot it up. That's the only way it could be able to... to get people to that kind of commitment, get a needle, find a vein, get a fucking rope tie off your arm.

   3. DLDave Landau30:15

      It was awful, that part.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      ... yeah.

   5. DLDave Landau30:18

      And then, then it wasn't.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:19

      Who... Did you do it with a guy?

   7. DLDave Landau30:21

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:21

      So he'd done it before? He showed you how to do it?

   9. DLDave Landau30:23

      He did it for me, yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       Oh, God.

   11. DLDave Landau30:24

       He died of a heroin overdose-

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       How weird.

   13. DLDave Landau30:26

       ... in his parents' kitchen. Yeah, I know you wouldn't expect it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       What, w- what a shocker.

   15. DLDave Landau30:30

       He found his head between, like, the, um, the fridge and the stove.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       He got stuck?

   17. DLDave Landau30:35

       I think he was either looking for something or collapsed right there.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       Oh, boy.

   19. DLDave Landau30:38

       Yeah, it wasn't good.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       (exhales)

   21. DLDave Landau30:41

       Nice guy.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       I knew this dude, um, in the '90s, his name was Waterdog.

   23. DLDave Landau30:46

       Okay.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       He was, uh, a professional pool player, like a really high level professional pool player, and he was a heroin addict. And he would go into the bathroom, um... He, like, I saw him play straight pool, which is this game where you're just running balls like you, you... It's called 14 in 1, it's what they played in The Hustler. So you have instead of like-

   25. DLDave Landau31:05

       Oh, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       ... eight ball, where the ball's in the center, you, you have a soft break, where you're just trying to not scatter the balls very much. And the idea is to... Eventually someone makes a mistake and you leave an open shot, and that person runs out that rack, leaves one ball on the table, makes that ball and collides the cue ball into the rack and opens up that rack, and then keeps going. And a really good player can run, like, two, 300 balls.

   27. DLDave Landau31:32

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:33

       So this guy-

   29. DLDave Landau31:34

       Minnesota Fast.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       ... was playing for $10,000 in the '90s, so it was a lot of money.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   (laughs) …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      just, you think about, I mean, even the food pyramid. I mean, how crazy is it that in the 20th century, they had it totally wrong? With all the access to books, all the information we had about health and nutrition, they were so wrong. Even with the food from the bottom up-

   2. DLDave Landau45:15

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      ... was all the shit that gives you inflammation.

   4. DLDave Landau45:18

      (laughs) Yes.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:18

      What your foundation is this inflammation-causing bread.

   6. DLDave Landau45:22

      Yeah. They're like, "What you need here is mostly wheat."

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      Yeah.

   8. DLDave Landau45:25

      "You have to make sure you get 18 servings a day of white bread."

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:28

      With bromate in it.

   10. DLDave Landau45:30

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:30

       Y- you wanna get a lot of that. You wanna get a lot of folic acid sprayed on it. Enriched flour is better.

   12. DLDave Landau45:36

       Yeah. (laughs) Here's sugar. That's in there for some reason.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       Yeah.

   14. DLDave Landau45:40

       Two ounces of protein. Make sure you grab that a day.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Tons of sugar, dog. Tons.

   16. DLDave Landau45:43

       Everything.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       Everybody had D- type 2 diabetes when I was a kid. They just didn't know it. (laughs)

   18. DLDave Landau45:47

       Oh, yeah. Well, everybody's getting it now.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       (laughs)

   20. DLDave Landau45:50

       (laughs) It's still constant.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       I know. It's, there's never been a time where poor people are so fat.

   22. DLDave Landau45:55

       No, like, starving people are obese.

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       Yeah.

   24. DLDave Landau45:57

       That's what's crazy. Like, you can't get nutrition in your body, but you also have to sit down to get groceries in a cart.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:04

       Ugh. Or go to Disneyland.

   26. DLDave Landau46:06

       Yeah, that's-

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       Disneyland is the place you find 'em all.

   28. DLDave Landau46:08

       Yeah, and it's like, why? Like, you're-

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       'Cause they get the carts for you. They have carts set up there for you-

   30. DLDave Landau46:12

       Yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:06:26

   Yeah. They're having fun.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      really fucked up thing is that people bred dogs for fighting, and they like to fight. They, when they fight, they wag their tails. That's-

   2. DLDave Landau1:00:07

      Yeah. They're having fun.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      That's what's crazy.

   4. DLDave Landau1:00:08

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      You watch them, like, literally chewing each other's faces off, and they're wagging their tails, like...

   6. DLDave Landau1:00:13

      Well, I got a Border collie at the same time as a Rottweiler, and they were both pretty, you know, they- they both enjoyed fighting each other.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

      Fun.

   8. DLDave Landau1:00:21

      But I'd always-

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

      Like play fighting.

   10. DLDave Landau1:00:22

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

       Yeah.

   12. DLDave Landau1:00:22

       And you'd always just watch for the tail waggling, because they'd be flipping each other over and...

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       Right.

   14. DLDave Landau1:00:27

       Like, when we first got the Rott, we went to a dog park, 'cause they were, like, newer to us in Michigan. And this one dog just kept coming up that was bigger than my Rott, but kept kind of, like, messing with her.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       Yeah.

   16. DLDave Landau1:00:38

       And then finally, my Rott grabbed her by the neck and flipped this dog over and was just, like, pinning it with her mouth. And then the dog gave up and was showing its belly. And I'm like, "Oh fuck." I'm like, "All right, we're gonna leave the dog park now." You know, people were f- like, freaking out and screaming.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       Yeah.

   18. DLDave Landau1:00:55

       But the dog kept, like, coming up and, like, nipping my- my dog.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       Yeah.

   20. DLDave Landau1:00:58

       Until my dog finally just, like, attacked back real quick.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Yeah. Which is what dogs do. They have to f- establish dominance.

   22. DLDave Landau1:01:05

       That's what she did.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

       I was at a dog park once, and somebody brought a wolf.

   24. DLDave Landau1:01:08

       Are you serious?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

       Yeah.

   26. DLDave Landau1:01:09

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

       ... it was the wildest thing. Ev- all the dogs-

   28. DLDave Landau1:01:13

       You got a wolf?

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       All the dogs immediately knew it wasn't a dog.

   30. DLDave Landau1:01:16

       Well, yeah.

Episode duration: 2:40:20