Joe Rogan Experience #2375 - Tim Dillon

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Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) We're good now?

Tim Dillon 0:13 Yeah. Um, but yeah, he... This is Turkey Murky sent us these and some zombie ones and-

Joe Rogan 0:18 Sick.

Tim Dillon 0:19 ... tech-... Not the best to drink out of, though.

Joe Rogan 0:21 You can't drink out of it.

Tim Dillon 0:22 'Cause it's, like, curved at the top, so you spill all over yourself.

Joe Rogan 0:25 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 0:25 But who cares?

Joe Rogan 0:27 You gotta put something in it and then just have it.

Tim Dillon 0:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:30 You know?

Tim Dillon 0:30 Like pens or something?

Joe Rogan 0:31 Yeah. Drugs.

Tim Dillon 0:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:34 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 0:34 Yeah. It would be good for drugs. Look at-

Joe Rogan 0:35 Oh.

Tim Dillon 0:36 ... look at that face.

Joe Rogan 0:36 It'd be great.

Tim Dillon 0:37 If you had some drugs laying around-

Joe Rogan 0:38 That would be the-

Tim Dillon 0:38 ... that's where you'd put them.

Joe Rogan 0:39 ... that's the spot.

Tim Dillon 0:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:41 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 0:42 So, we were talking about the video, uh, that Trump posted, this video, of, uh, them drone bombing some narco guys in the middle of the ocean.

Joe Rogan 0:50 In Venez-... Venezuelan drug traffickers?

Tim Dillon 0:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:53 Right?

Tim Dillon 0:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:54 I think that's what it was.

Tim Dillon 0:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:56 Venezuelan-

Tim Dillon 0:56 Trendy-agua.

Joe Rogan 0:58 ... trendy-agua.

Tim Dillon 0:59 However you say it.

Joe Rogan 0:59 They're... It's a real thing.

Tim Dillon 1:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01 They're a real thing.

Tim Dillon 1:02 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03 You know?

Tim Dillon 1:04 He's accusing the president of Venezuela of being i- involved, right?

Joe Rogan 1:11 That could lead to an interesting place, you know? I mean-

Tim Dillon 1:14 What-

Joe Rogan 1:14 ... it could lead to a... I imagine we're doing that because we're trying to suggest that it would be better if he wasn't the president?

Tim Dillon 1:21 Probably something-

Joe Rogan 1:22 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 1:22 ... along those lines. Wait, are... I mean, isn't there, like, a bounty on him?

Joe Rogan 1:26 Uh, I believe there is.

Tim Dillon 1:27 Yeah (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 1:30 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 1:30 I think it's, like, open and public. There's like-

Joe Rogan 1:32 I-

Tim Dillon 1:32 ... a $50 million bounty on him.

Joe Rogan 1:34 Yeah, I think they wanna get rid of him.

Tim Dillon 1:35 Is that what the number is?

Narrator 1:36 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 1:37 Yeah, $50 million. There it is. Placed a $50 billion (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 1:40 They've been trying (laughs) ... Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:41 ... in the United States-

Joe Rogan 1:42 Bounty.

Tim Dillon 1:42 ... has placed a $50 million bounty for any information leading to the arrest of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro. He's, um-

Joe Rogan 1:47 They've been trying to knock him off for a while.

Tim Dillon 1:50 Yeah. It said... He's accusing him of heading a drug trafficking network. I don't know if that's the t-... I don't know if that's the case, but speaking to, uh, Ed Calderon-

Joe Rogan 1:59 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:59 ... that I had on the other day, who's a expert on Mexico.

Joe Rogan 2:01 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:01 And you remember when there was, like, all the assassinations in the last election?

Joe Rogan 2:05 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:06 There was, like, 37 different assassinations.

Joe Rogan 2:08 In Mexico?

Tim Dillon 2:08 In Mexico.

Joe Rogan 2:09 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:09 He said it's 'cause they're all cartel.

Joe Rogan 2:11 Sure.

Tim Dillon 2:11 It's not like... They're not just assassinating regular people.

Joe Rogan 2:14 Right.

Tim Dillon 2:14 The cartel's putting these people in to be, like, the mayor or this or that. And then these other people who have other cartel people are killing them.

Joe Rogan 2:25 So, it's warring-

Tim Dillon 2:26 So, it's cartel... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:26 ... cartels?

Tim Dillon 2:27 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 2:27 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:27 It's all warring cartels. So, here (laughs) ... Here it is. This is, uh, the president is posting assassinations on, on social media.

Joe Rogan 2:38 Is this... Okay.

Tim Dillon 2:39 Yeah, we're gonna get the chance to see it and da-dosh. Instant. Pretty accurate.

Joe Rogan 2:46 Pretty fucking accurate.

Tim Dillon 2:47 Very impressive.

Joe Rogan 2:49 Pretty impressive.

Tim Dillon 2:50 Great tip.

Joe Rogan 2:50 Lotta wasted drugs.

Tim Dillon 2:51 Yeah (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 2:55 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 2:55 Well, probably a lot of fentanyl-

Joe Rogan 2:56 Lotta wasted drugs.

Tim Dillon 2:57 ... in that. Probably bad drugs.

Joe Rogan 2:58 Well, this is a b- big problem is that the drugs now are worse than they've ever been.

Tim Dillon 3:03 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:04 I mean, all drugs are bad, but the drugs now seem to be unbelievably bad.

Tim Dillon 3:09 Well, it's the fentanyl.

Joe Rogan 3:10 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:10 Um, uh, Ed was explaining that too.

Joe Rogan 3:13 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:13 He's like, "The soil that they grow the poppies on to make heroin is so bad, it's so taxed out, that the heroin was very weak, and they couldn't sell it. So, they had to add fentanyl to the heroin to make it stronger."

Joe Rogan 3:24 And they spice it up. They cut it with fentanyl.

Tim Dillon 3:26 Exactly. That's how it started.

Joe Rogan 3:28 And fentanyl is what is killing everybody that's doing cocaine-

Tim Dillon 3:31 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 3:32 ... and it's laced with fentanyl, and then they drop.

Tim Dillon 3:34 Mm-hmm. Yeah, and-

Joe Rogan 3:36 It's terrible.

Tim Dillon 3:36 And it all comes from China.

Joe Rogan 3:38 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:38 All the fentanyl.

Joe Rogan 3:39 Well, yeah. I mean, there's-

Tim Dillon 3:40 All the precursors, everything.

Joe Rogan 3:41 It is kind of a way... If you are a foreign country, it is a way to... It is some type of warfare.

Tim Dillon 3:50 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:50 You know?

Tim Dillon 3:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:51 For sure.

Tim Dillon 3:52 Yeah. There's, there's a bunch of different things that they're doing, for sure, to try to destabilize the United States.

Joe Rogan 3:57 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:57 And, uh, that... Which includes social media, which is why I tell people-

Joe Rogan 4:01 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 4:01 ... do not argue with people on social media because I bet most of those people aren't even real.

Joe Rogan 4:04 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 4:05 Mo-... There's a giant amount of people that are on social media that are there just to keep arguments going.

Joe Rogan 4:12 Absolutely.

Tim Dillon 4:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:13 Lots of bots.

Tim Dillon 4:14 Lots of bots.

Joe Rogan 4:15 Sure.

Tim Dillon 4:16 And this was something that came up yesterday, where y-... Um, they were using ChatGPT. So, they have sort of a program that runs ChatGPT so it ac- acts like real humans. And it was attacking people about USAID and, and, and-

Joe Rogan 4:31 Really?

Tim Dillon 4:32 ... trans issues-

Joe Rogan 4:33 Right.

Tim Dillon 4:33 ... all sorts of different stuff.

Joe Rogan 4:35 Is that Grok?

Tim Dillon 4:37 No. Grok is the AI from X. So, that's the Twitter AI.

Joe Rogan 4:41 Right.

Tim Dillon 4:41 So, ChatGPT is OpenAI.

Joe Rogan 4:43 Chat's the big... That's the based AI. Grok.

Tim Dillon 4:46 Sort of.

Joe Rogan 4:47 Grok is kinda the one who's based.

Tim Dillon 4:49 It got, it got removed for a little bit-

Joe Rogan 4:51 Well, that's how you know it's-

Tim Dillon 4:52 ... because he said that Israel was con- co- committing genocide.

Joe Rogan 4:54 The... What I like about Grok is that occasionally it's removed.

Tim Dillon 4:57 Yeah (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 4:59 That's how I know Grok's onto something, because it's occasionally put in timeout-

Tim Dillon 5:03 Yeah (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 5:03 ... and then it comes back. Any AI that's not removed, I don't trust. I need an AI that's getting removed pretty frequently when it runs up against an issue.

Tim Dillon 5:14 Yeah. That's a good call.

Joe Rogan 5:16 Yeah. It's-

Tim Dillon 5:17 I'm not saying all of Grok is good, but I'm saying I've read Grok, and I've said, "This is an interesting guy to talk to at a bar," because he's saying things that- A little controversial.

Joe Rogan 5:29 A little fun.

Tim Dillon 5:30 A little fun.

Joe Rogan 5:30 Little fun.

Tim Dillon 5:31 Little out there. Little controversial.

Joe Rogan 5:33 Little out there. Pretty wild.

Tim Dillon 5:34 Do you see the, uh, the German right-wing party, uh, seven members have died leading up to the election over the last couple days?

Joe Rogan 5:42 And this is the AD-

Tim Dillon 5:44 AFD.

Joe Rogan 5:45 ... AFD or something?

Tim Dillon 5:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:46 I, I, I saw that. That seems a bit spooky that that's going on.

Tim Dillon 5:52 A little suspicious.

Joe Rogan 5:53 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 5:53 A little suspicious. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:54 That's very interesting.

Tim Dillon 5:55 Yeah, it is.

Joe Rogan 5:55 How did they all die?

Tim Dillon 5:56 "Germany's far-right AFD suffers series of candidate deaths ahead of local votes."Well, I would imagine they were assassinated, Tim.

Joe Rogan 6:02 Right.

Tim Dillon 6:03 (clears throat) No evidence of foul play. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:06 Thank God. Thank God, I was worried.

Tim Dillon 6:09 (laughs) What are the odds that that many people- (laughs) ... that are a part of something die that quickly?

Joe Rogan 6:12 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 6:13 Uh, they said it was six, but today it's seven. Number of deaths has nevertheless raised questions on social media. That said, like, if they really are far right extremists-

Joe Rogan 6:23 Maybe they're out there doing fentanyl. Maybe they're wacky people.

Tim Dillon 6:26 Maybe they're doing, maybe they're doing something. Seven seems like a really inconvenient number of people to die before an election. Yeah. That seems to be-

Joe Rogan 6:36 Yes.

Tim Dillon 6:36 ... quite suspect. Right up there with the Mexican assassinations. Yeah. Well, this is... Europe right now has become, you know, we had our election, so then the UK right now is kind of the most interesting place to watch, because of everything that's taking place. And Germany is not far behind. But like, this is where a lot of the tumult in the world is coming to a head, in like Europe, the UK. Mm-hmm. Things with migration, things with speech-

Joe Rogan 7:09 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 7:09 ... that we talked about. Yeah, the Graham Linehan stuff.

Joe Rogan 7:12 Crazy.

Tim Dillon 7:13 He, he left this podcast, and I was telling him, "Why are you gonna go back?" Like, it s- seems crazy to go back, 'cause he's living in America now.

Joe Rogan 7:20 Right.

Tim Dillon 7:20 I'm like, "Why, why are you gonna go back?" He goes like, "Well, I have to. I have a court case." He's getting sued by some crazy trans person, and, um, goes back and was arrested for three tweets. And what were the... Do we know what the tweets were?

Joe Rogan 7:34 Oh yeah.

Tim Dillon 7:34 I mean, not that- Yeah, one of 'em is a photo-

Joe Rogan 7:36 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 7:36 ... of a trans rally. It says, "A photo that you can smell." That's it. (sighs) I mean, it's like so wild that you would be put in handcuffs for that tweet. The other one- None of them are, obviously, yeah. ... is a photo of, uh, these trans people, where he commented, "Homophobes and, and, uh, misogynists, all of them. Fuck them."

Joe Rogan 7:56 Right. Right.

Tim Dillon 7:58 Imagine.

Joe Rogan 7:58 You would think that would put you in the clear. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 8:01 (laughs) But imagine.

Joe Rogan 8:03 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 8:03 That's one of the posts-

Joe Rogan 8:05 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 8:05 ... that they cited-

Joe Rogan 8:06 Right.

Tim Dillon 8:06 ... as being the reason for, for arresting him.

Joe Rogan 8:08 Interesting.

Tim Dillon 8:09 And then the other one is saying that if, uh, a man, uh, who identifies as a woman enters a women's bathroom, he is committing a, uh... And, uh, we- we should pull it up just so I can get the-

Joe Rogan 8:20 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 8:20 ... so I don't misquote it. Uh, I- I retweeted it, so it's on my Twitter page, if you wanna find it. But, uh, something about that it's a... I forget what, how he described the act, but the- the- the problem was that he said, "You should yell, you should call authorities, yell, and if that doesn't work, punch him in the balls."

Joe Rogan 8:39 Right. Fun.

Tim Dillon 8:41 Yeah. Yeah, fun. So here it is. "If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops, and if all else fails, punch him in the balls."

Joe Rogan 8:51 There's something-

Tim Dillon 8:51 Arrested.

Joe Rogan 8:52 ... in this-

Tim Dillon 8:52 You belong in a locked-up cage-

Joe Rogan 8:55 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 8:55 ... for that.

Joe Rogan 8:56 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 8:56 Well, well, there's something really terrifying about the idea that any tweet outside of a direct threat or a harassment-

Joe Rogan 9:06 Right.

Tim Dillon 9:06 ... campaign or something that falls into that category would get you arrested, any tweet. This is so innocuous and silly-

Joe Rogan 9:19 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 9:20 ... and not at all what you would think would rise to the level... Not that anything should rise to the level, but the fact that they're gonna put you in jail for that, it just sends a message to people that they cannot have an opinion counter to whatever the government decides is the right opinion. But it, it's, it, it's totally illogical. Like, they-

Joe Rogan 9:43 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 9:43 ... arrested a kid for yelling, "I love bacon." Have you seen that one?

Joe Rogan 9:46 Yeah, because he was-

Tim Dillon 9:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:47 ... supposedly was Islamophobic to love bacon.

Tim Dillon 9:50 Right. He was yelling at, at these-

Joe Rogan 9:51 My Islamophobia and my love of bacon are completely separate things.

Tim Dillon 9:55 Not only that, you can-

Joe Rogan 9:56 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 9:56 ... go to Muslim countries-

Joe Rogan 9:57 Right.

Tim Dillon 9:57 ... and yell, "I love bacon." There's no laws against it.

Joe Rogan 9:59 I will be doing it at the Riyadh Comedy Festival very soon.

Tim Dillon 10:02 (screams)

Joe Rogan 10:02 Get your tickets! Ah!

Tim Dillon 10:03 Get your tickets! Are you really gonna go there?

Joe Rogan 10:06 Of course I am.

Tim Dillon 10:07 Wow.

Joe Rogan 10:08 Why would I not?

Tim Dillon 10:10 Uh... (groans)

Joe Rogan 10:12 Where they kill gay people and women.

Tim Dillon 10:13 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:13 By the way, we've said that about... We say this about every Muslim... Every Muslim country's throwing gay people off the roof all the time-

Tim Dillon 10:20 Right.

Joe Rogan 10:20 ... by the way. Okay? Um, I obviously don't agree with Saudi Arabian policies on women and things like that.

Tim Dillon 10:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:27 Is it my business to tell Saudi Arabia how to live? Truly.

Tim Dillon 10:32 How big was the check?

Joe Rogan 10:34 $375,000 for one show.

Tim Dillon 10:36 Nice.

Joe Rogan 10:36 That's not bad.

Tim Dillon 10:37 That's pretty good.

Joe Rogan 10:37 That's not bad.

Tim Dillon 10:38 I'll take that.

Joe Rogan 10:39 I'll watch a behanding for that.

Tim Dillon 10:41 (laughs) Behanding?

Joe Rogan 10:42 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 10:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:42 It's called a behanding. What happens is they cut the hand off the thief.

Tim Dillon 10:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:48 Here's the thing.

Tim Dillon 10:48 Don't steal.

Joe Rogan 10:48 All the people that have yelled at me for this are also pro letting migrants and refugees into America at very high numbers. Now, the, the same religion that is supposedly so terrifying that I cannot spend 24 hours in that country is the same religion that all of these migrants and refugees are pretty supportive of that are coming over.

Tim Dillon 11:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:13 So, it feels weird to me that people are getting on a moral high horse and going, "It is so dangerous to go to Saudi Arabia for 48 hours." Why? "Well, because they do X, Y, and Z." Why do they do that? "Well, their, th- this religion is crazy." I go, "Okay, but then who's coming into our country? How differently do they feel about all of these things?" And then if you poll them, they don't feel that differently.

Tim Dillon 11:39 No.

Joe Rogan 11:39 Like...

Tim Dillon 11:40 There's no room for dissent-

Joe Rogan 11:42 Right, so radi-

Tim Dillon 11:43 ... in, in that religion.

Joe Rogan 11:44 Right, right. So, radi- people who are somewhat radicalized on the, uh, in that religion that are coming into America are supposed to be greeted with open arms, and it's, it's, uh, it's not compassionate, and it's terrible if you suggest that we shouldn't take all of those people because they may not assimilate as easily as people from European nations. You're called a racist, a Nazi, and whatever.... but if you want to go to one of those countries that is luxurious, (laughs) nice, you know?

Tim Dillon 12:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:15 Then you're, you're attacked because you, your morality... I have to, in order to perform as Hedy Arabia, I'm supposed to agree with everything they do. That's crazy.

Tim Dillon 12:24 Yeah. No, it, it's... There's no logic in a lot of the thinking. I mean, it's, it's silly. But what they're doing with allowing mass migration in the UK... Um, you can see it in England and Ireland, and it, it's really weird, 'cause, like, where does this end up? 'Cause it, it seems like it ends up with some places that have Sharia law.

Joe Rogan 12:45 Yes.

Tim Dillon 12:46 Es- especially when you consider-

Joe Rogan 12:47 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 12:47 ... like, how many babies they're having versus how many babies the English people... I mean, they're openly talking about it, "We're going to out-breed you."

Joe Rogan 12:54 This is why when people talk about this issue, they often use the example of, you know, Western countries not reproducing enough-

Tim Dillon 13:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:05 ... not replicating their population, and they go, "Well, there's going to be a crisis because people are not having enough children, so immigration is needed to sustain the population." What they never talk about is why people aren't having enough children, and a lot of it is because economically they feel like they cannot afford to. Culturally, there have been policies that have, you know, focused on things outside of the family. We haven't had a ton of, like, pro-family policies in Western countries.

Tim Dillon 13:42 There's a little bit of that, but then there's also the issue that a lot of people have careers and they're trying to wait, okay? So-

Joe Rogan 13:48 Sure.

Tim Dillon 13:49 ... if you're a woman-

Joe Rogan 13:50 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 13:51 ... and you're in your 30s and you've decided-

Joe Rogan 13:54 Gross.

Tim Dillon 13:54 ... you want to have a family-

Joe Rogan 13:56 (laughs) Just joking.

Tim Dillon 13:56 ... and, you know, you're 35, 36-

Joe Rogan 13:58 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 13:58 ... as you get older, the ch- the odds of you getting pregnant drop pretty radically.

Joe Rogan 14:03 Well, th- but this is part of the... I think part of the problem in Western societies is we've told wo- women that being a mother is som- is not as fulfilling as, as working in a Fortune 500 company.

Tim Dillon 14:18 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:19 And I don't know any women that are mothers that regret it or, or are un- unhappy. I... M- most of the happiest people I know are, are women with children.

Tim Dillon 14:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:31 Truly.

Tim Dillon 14:32 Y- they're very happy if that's what they want, and if they're-

Joe Rogan 14:36 Yes.

Tim Dillon 14:36 ... very miserable if that's not what they want.

Joe Rogan 14:37 I'm not saying they all should have children, but it... There's a lot of people... I, I... You know, when you meet a young couple with children, I've never met happier people, personally-

Tim Dillon 14:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:48 ... than that.

Tim Dillon 14:49 No, that's true. Um, as long as they're getting along and as long as the, the woman actually wanted to have children.

Joe Rogan 14:55 Yes.

Tim Dillon 14:55 But there's a lot of women that are, like... There was this lady that I knew back in California that was... It was really sad. Uh, she was, like, uh, super career-oriented and, uh, she had a child that was friend with... Friends with my child, and, uh, she was never home. I mean, she, she would get home at, like, 7:30, 8:00 at night.

Joe Rogan 15:15 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:15 She worked in, you know, high-profile business-

Joe Rogan 15:18 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:19 ... and was there all day long, and-

Joe Rogan 15:21 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:21 ... when she came home she was exhausted and short-tempered and, you know, and she-

Joe Rogan 15:25 Right.

Tim Dillon 15:25 It was not good. Like, it was not good, and the kid was miserable.

Joe Rogan 15:29 And the kid was upset.

Tim Dillon 15:30 Yeah, but it was a lady that tried to have a kid later in life.

Joe Rogan 15:33 Right.

Tim Dillon 15:33 She was a career woman, you know, and she had a, like I said, high-profile job-

Joe Rogan 15:38 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:38 ... very important job, and the kid was a distraction.

Joe Rogan 15:41 I'm not saying that women aren't capable of having jobs, or... There's many women that are amazing in the corporate world, but I am saying that, like, when you completely, you know, center a culture around ideas outside of family-

Tim Dillon 15:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:57 ... career-

Tim Dillon 15:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:58 ... money, status-

Tim Dillon 16:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:00 ... and you build a structure around all of those other things, and you go, "Well, maybe we'll have one kid to have a bigger house," or, "Maybe we'll have one kid to live in a better neighborhood," and you start going, "Well, wait a minute, what is the purpose of this?" And a lot of that seems to be somewhat by design. And then other cultures come in that do value family and having lots of children-

Tim Dillon 16:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:27 ... they are going to outnumber you pretty quickly, and their values will become the values of the larger society.

Tim Dillon 16:34 Yeah, that's true. Um, the other thing that's going on, too, is that from, you know, the 60s, 70s, and then w- when... You know, when I was a child, you could sustain a family on one income.

Joe Rogan 16:48 That's right.

Tim Dillon 16:49 Today, that's v- virtually impossible if you're... you know, if you're making $50,000 a year, $60,000-

Joe Rogan 16:54 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 16:54 ... it's really hard. It's really hard to get by.

Joe Rogan 16:57 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 16:57 And if you have a fa- a wife and a family, and you have bills, and-

Joe Rogan 17:01 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 17:01 ... a car or maybe two cars-

Joe Rogan 17:03 It's terrible.

Tim Dillon 17:03 ... it's fucking rough.

Joe Rogan 17:05 Yeah, b-

Tim Dillon 17:05 And-

Joe Rogan 17:06 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 17:06 You know, Dave Smith's talked about that.

Joe Rogan 17:08 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 17:08 Just thank, thank the people who brought us into wars that cost trillions of fucking dollars.

Joe Rogan 17:12 Well, not only that. You know, I was talking to my aunt about immigration, who I like, and she, you know, was, was basically going... I said, "You know, I think you also have to pause legal immigration for a b- a, a minute." And she goes, "Well, then who's gonna be your doctor?" 'Cause she has an Indian doctor.

Tim Dillon 17:29 Oh, boy.

Joe Rogan 17:30 And I said, "Well, wait a minute."

Tim Dillon 17:31 That's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 17:32 I said, "Hold on-"

Tim Dillon 17:32 That's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 17:33 I s- That's what she said. She goes, "Well, who's gonna be your doctor?" She's a Boomer aunt sitting at my house in Southampton-

Tim Dillon 17:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:39 ... you know, going, "Well, who's gonna be your doctor?" And I go, "Why are we not training American children to be doctors in America?"

Tim Dillon 17:49 What'd she say to that?

Joe Rogan 17:50 She goes, "Well, no one does their homework. I was a teacher for 30 years-

Tim Dillon 17:54 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 17:54 ... and I know that no one does their homework." And I go, "Do you think it's possible that nobody does their homework 'cause we need two incomes to run a house, and kids are left to play video games by themselves, and they're not being parented?" You know? So, I think this idea of, like, we're, we're importing doctors-

Tim Dillon 18:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:14 ... you know what I mean?

Tim Dillon 18:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:15 'Cause this whole idea is like, "Oh, these are jobs Americans won't do." And then they're like, "Well, it's agriculture and stuff." And it's like, okay, you can understand some of that. But then you're like, "Wait a minute. Are you saying Americans don't wanna be doctors?" That's crazy. They don't wanna work in hotels or restaurants. Then you start going, "Well, what jobs can Americans do?" I mean, Marc Andreessen came out, and I don't know if you, you had, have the quote, Jamie. But, like, Marc Andreessen literally was talking about... And I don't have a problem with Marc Andreessen, per se. I think this statement was silly. He said, "Oh, yeah, after AI takes over, like, one of the only jobs that's gonna be okay," I swear to God he said this, "is venture capital." He goes, "That'll be okay, because we'll still need to make judgments about what's a worthy investment strategy."

Tim Dillon 19:01 How convenient that his-

Joe Rogan 19:03 Well, yeah.

Tim Dillon 19:04 ... job will be saved.

Joe Rogan 19:04 Well, this is the whole thing, right. Yeah, right there. Marc Andreessen says, "One job is mostly safe from AI, uh, venture capitalist." It's just funny to me that-

Tim Dillon 19:15 That's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 19:16 ... that this is the direction. If, if immigrants were taking the jobs of Hollywood screenwriters, they would not be celebrating it. If immigrants were taking the job of people at white shoe law firms, they would not be celebrating it. If they were taking the job of investment bankers, they would not be celebrating it.

Tim Dillon 19:36 Right.

Joe Rogan 19:37 It's very obvious.

Tim Dillon 19:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:39 It's not anything wrong with the immigrants who come here. Obviously that I would come here too, to take someone's job, because I'd wanna survive.

Tim Dillon 19:46 It's just a weird argument, like, who's gonna be your doctor? That's a qu- that's a really weird argument.

Joe Rogan 19:51 It's-

Tim Dillon 19:51 And it's kind of-

Joe Rogan 19:52 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 19:52 I mean, no disrespect to your, to your aunt-

Joe Rogan 19:54 No, let's do it.

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Joe Rogan 21:10 It's a th- it's very racist against whites.

Tim Dillon 21:12 It is. And it's also weird. You know, it's a weird argument, 'cause it's like all human beings can, uh, of all nationalities and races can do basically every job.

Joe Rogan 21:21 That's-

Tim Dillon 21:22 There's people that do it all over the world.

Joe Rogan 21:23 That's-

Tim Dillon 21:23 The idea that you need to-

Joe Rogan 21:24 ... hopefully true.

Tim Dillon 21:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:25 But yes, no I'm kidding. Yes.

Tim Dillon 21:26 The most racist is, like, who's gonna clean your toilet? Like, we've, we've seen that.

Joe Rogan 21:30 Well, that was Kelly Osbourne on The View.

Tim Dillon 21:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:32 She's all, "Mr. Trump, who's gonna eat your shit?"

Tim Dillon 21:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:36 "If you don't have immigrants here, who's gonna eat your shit when you shit in a toilet?"

Tim Dillon 21:41 By the way, is she in the Witness Protection Program? 'Cause she looks like a totally different human being now.

Joe Rogan 21:44 I don't know what they did. They popped her on some of the Azamps and they threw her in the shed.

Tim Dillon 21:49 Have you seen, uh, the new alien show that's on the Hulu?

Joe Rogan 21:52 No, I haven't.

Tim Dillon 21:53 It's really good. It's an alien show. But one of the things they do, is they, they take, like, a dying person-

Joe Rogan 21:58 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 21:58 ... and they download their consciousness-

Joe Rogan 22:00 Interesting.

Tim Dillon 22:01 ... into, like, a, a symbiotic organism.

Joe Rogan 22:03 And they're, i- is this, oh, is this fake, or is it real? Like, are they a real dying person?

Tim Dillon 22:08 Well-

Joe Rogan 22:08 Oh, it's a fictional thing.

Tim Dillon 22:09 ... it's a fictional-

Joe Rogan 22:10 Okay.

Tim Dillon 22:10 It's Alien the movie.

Joe Rogan 22:12 Gotcha.

Tim Dillon 22:12 Like Ridley Scott, Alien.

Joe Rogan 22:13 Gotcha.

Tim Dillon 22:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:14 Okay.

Tim Dillon 22:15 And I wonder if that happened to her.

Joe Rogan 22:17 Well, for sure. I mean-

Tim Dillon 22:19 'Cause otherwise, like, how does she look, like-

Joe Rogan 22:21 That's the problem. You wanna defend Hollywood people sometimes against the QAnon stuff, and then you look at them-

Tim Dillon 22:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:26 ... and you're like, "Oh, God. Can you make it easier for me to say you're not a clone?"

Tim Dillon 22:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:31 Because-

Tim Dillon 22:32 I mean, these young girls are 23 years old and they have so much plastic surgery, they look like they're 47.

Joe Rogan 22:37 It's nuts. It's crazy.

Tim Dillon 22:38 They have Botox already and they're in their 20s.

Joe Rogan 22:40 And then all the QAnon people are like, "It's because they're not getting enough of the whatever, you know, adrenochrome." And you're like, "No, that's not it." And then you look at their faces, you go, "Oh, shit."

Tim Dillon 22:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:50 "Maybe it is it." I mean-

Tim Dillon 22:51 Show me a photo of, uh... She looks great.

Joe Rogan 22:54 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 22:54 I should say this.

Joe Rogan 22:55 Of course.

Tim Dillon 22:55 I'm just joking around. I'm sure-

Joe Rogan 22:57 We're all kidding.

Tim Dillon 22:58 ... she hasn't been downloaded into a new body.

Joe Rogan 23:00 Not yet.

Tim Dillon 23:01 But if I had her on the pod... Like, if s- if someone said, "Do you want Kelly Osbourne to be on the podcast?" And I said sure, and she showed up, I'd be like, "Who the fuck are you?"

Joe Rogan 23:09 Yeah, it's a fully new head. She has a new head.

Tim Dillon 23:12 Like, that's kind of crazy.

Joe Rogan 23:14 She just got a new head.

Tim Dillon 23:15 That's kind of crazy. The left one, I'm like, "Oh, yeah, that's Ozzy."

Joe Rogan 23:19 The left one is a lesbian.

Tim Dillon 23:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:21 And the right one is hot and kind of, and, and seems to be Asian.

Tim Dillon 23:25 Go to the other one, the last one that you showed up. The one, those, yeah, that one. That's kind of-

Joe Rogan 23:29 Can you go to tw- 2003 and 2025? That's my favorite one right there.

Tim Dillon 23:33 Oh, right below that.

Joe Rogan 23:34 Please go to that one.

Tim Dillon 23:35 Yeah, that one.

Joe Rogan 23:35 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 23:35 Okay.

Joe Rogan 23:36 Okay. So the left is me, and then the right-

Tim Dillon 23:39 (sighs) Ah.

Joe Rogan 23:39 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 23:39 That seems so crazy. Like, that is a totally different human. She has a completely different face.

Joe Rogan 23:48 Well, it shows you-

Tim Dillon 23:49 Like, the jaw structure. What did they do to her jaw?

Joe Rogan 23:51 Well, they do all of this stuff now. They break the bones in your face and then they shave them.

Tim Dillon 23:57 Oh, god.

Joe Rogan 23:58 But I think that's nice. I think that's nice that people can get a new head, or-

Tim Dillon 24:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:05 ... if they want, because many people struggle with the same head their entire life.

Tim Dillon 24:09 That's true.

Joe Rogan 24:10 But if you're a multimillionaire and you're in Hollywood-

Tim Dillon 24:13 Right.

Joe Rogan 24:13 ... and you want another head-

Tim Dillon 24:14 God, that's so crazy. She looks great, I should say.

Joe Rogan 24:17 She looks great.

Tim Dillon 24:18 It's not, it's the opposite of what we used to see-

Joe Rogan 24:21 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:21 ... with plastic surgery when people got into their 40s, like in the-

Joe Rogan 24:23 Yes.

Tim Dillon 24:23 ... in the '90s.

Joe Rogan 24:24 They're getting good.

Tim Dillon 24:25 They'd get the weird, giant mouth-

Joe Rogan 24:27 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:27 ... where it looks like they're about to eat someone's whole head-

Joe Rogan 24:29 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:29 ... where their, their mouth goes all the way up to their ears-

Joe Rogan 24:32 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:33 ... because they've been pulling their face back.

Joe Rogan 24:34 They've done a really, really good job at, at in- v- eh, eh- inventing another physical form-

Tim Dillon 24:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:43 ... that you can inhabit.

Tim Dillon 24:45 It's-

Joe Rogan 24:45 It's great.

Tim Dillon 24:46 It's never-

Joe Rogan 24:47 It's creepy.

Tim Dillon 24:48 It's never been done before to this extent.

Joe Rogan 24:50 No way.

Tim Dillon 24:51 Because look at, uh, the Kardashian lady. What's her name?

Joe Rogan 24:54 Kris.

Tim Dillon 24:54 Yeah. Look at her.

Joe Rogan 24:54 She keeps getting younger.

Tim Dillon 24:56 Bro.

Joe Rogan 24:56 It's sick.

Tim Dillon 24:57 Her new face-

Joe Rogan 24:59 Is great.

Tim Dillon 24:59 ... is bananas.

Joe Rogan 25:00 It's my favorite of her heads.

Tim Dillon 25:02 And we're just talking about this now-

Joe Rogan 25:04 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 25:04 ... knowing that that's the original head that's been altered.

Joe Rogan 25:07 Correct.

Tim Dillon 25:08 When are we gonna be talking about completely actually new heads?

Joe Rogan 25:11 Her second head wasn't as good.

Tim Dillon 25:13 No.

Joe Rogan 25:14 No, her third head is the head.

Tim Dillon 25:16 The new head is bananas.

Joe Rogan 25:18 This is my favorite of her heads.

Tim Dillon 25:20 Okay, she's like 80 years old on the left-

Joe Rogan 25:22 (laughs) Yes.

Tim Dillon 25:22 ... and on the right, she's 37?

Joe Rogan 25:25 Yeah. This woman-

Tim Dillon 25:26 Even her neck looks great.

Joe Rogan 25:27 They figured it out. They got it right. Th-

Tim Dillon 25:29 Crazy.

Joe Rogan 25:30 Now, here's what happens though. There's a movie called Death Becomes Her. This was a famous movie.

Tim Dillon 25:35 Look at that picture right there before and after, one that says-

Joe Rogan 25:37 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 25:37 ... before and after, one in the middle of the screen. Jamie?

Joe Rogan 25:39 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 25:40 Right, to the right, middle screen, to the right.

Narrator 25:42 Oh.

Tim Dillon 25:42 To the right.

Narrator 25:43 Right?

Tim Dillon 25:43 No, that one right there. Click on that one. Yeah. That's nuts.

Joe Rogan 25:47 It's amazing.

Tim Dillon 25:48 That's, that's Kim Kardashian. That's her mom, but that's Kim, right? Like, that's crazy. If you told me that was Kim Kardashian, I was like, "Oh, I like her with the short hair. She looks beautiful."

Joe Rogan 25:58 There's gotta be-

Tim Dillon 25:58 That's nuts.

Joe Rogan 26:00 The, but here's my question for this. This, there has to be a... Doesn't there have to be a downside?

Tim Dillon 26:09 To that?

Joe Rogan 26:10 Yeah. Maybe not.

Tim Dillon 26:11 Listen, you're talking to a guy who's had two reconstructed knees.

Joe Rogan 26:15 Right.

Tim Dillon 26:15 So surgery is awesome, to me.

Joe Rogan 26:17 I agree with you.

Tim Dillon 26:18 Like, I, if I would be-

Joe Rogan 26:19 I'm just wondering-

Tim Dillon 26:19 ... a cripple if I lived in the 1800s.

Joe Rogan 26:21 I, I'm wondering if-

Tim Dillon 26:23 What's the downside?

Joe Rogan 26:25 Some of this might... Couldn't it, couldn't possibly her fa- you know, when those-

Tim Dillon 26:30 She looks better.

Joe Rogan 26:31 I agree with you, but-

Tim Dillon 26:32 She looks better than her daughter.

Joe Rogan 26:33 But those BBLs explode.

Tim Dillon 26:35 Well, that's not a good thing. The BBLs-

Joe Rogan 26:36 So, including her face one day-

Tim Dillon 26:39 No.

Joe Rogan 26:39 Really?

Tim Dillon 26:40 Yeah, because they're just removing-

Joe Rogan 26:41 Good.

Tim Dillon 26:42 They're just removing tissue and they're tightening it up, and they're probably got some techniques with like laser resurfacing.

Joe Rogan 26:47 I'm into it. I'm into it.

Tim Dillon 26:48 They, they, with laser resurfacing, I don't know if you've ever seen some of that. It's so scary what they look like right after they do it.

Joe Rogan 26:54 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 26:55 You're, you're basically burning off the upper dermis. You're burning off like, uh, you know, uh, whatever-

Joe Rogan 27:00 (laughs) Yeah.

Tim Dillon 27:00 ... how much of a, a percentage of a millimeter.

Joe Rogan 27:03 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 27:04 And then your whole face becomes a mask that gets removed. It's like the skin gets cooked off and then you peel it, like you see them.

Joe Rogan 27:13 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 27:13 It looks like they, they got torched by a fucking-

Joe Rogan 27:16 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 27:16 It's like SpaceX. They-

Joe Rogan 27:18 Right.

Tim Dillon 27:18 ... got underneath it.

Joe Rogan 27:19 They got underneath it.

Tim Dillon 27:19 And took it in the face.

Joe Rogan 27:20 Some- thing I worry a little bit about a society where people keep chasing youth.

Tim Dillon 27:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:25 My grandfather, my grandmother, old people, wrinkles-

Tim Dillon 27:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:29 ... wisdom. You know, my grandmother was not running around trying to look like her daughter.

Tim Dillon 27:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:36 I worry a little bit about, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with cosmetic surgery, and people should look as good as they want. I worry a little bit spiritually, slightly, about where this leads.

Tim Dillon 27:46 That's a good worry.

Joe Rogan 27:48 That's all.

Tim Dillon 27:48 No, that's legitimate, a person-

Joe Rogan 27:50 I li- and I li- and I'm saying this as someone who likes her new look.

Tim Dillon 27:53 Yes.

Joe Rogan 27:54 I think she looks good and I would not tell her to not do it.

Tim Dillon 27:57 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:58 I'm just wondering, if someone's 90 and they look 30, I'm a little curious. I guess we're just heading towards everlasting life on Earth?

Tim Dillon 28:08 Well, it depends on what your focus is.

Joe Rogan 28:09 Scares me a little.

Tim Dillon 28:11 So if you're a person that focuses on expanding your consciousness and you're constantly reading and you're absorbing new... and you just wanna have more energy and be youthful, that's great. But if the whole thing you're chasing is, "I want people to wanna fuck me," (smacks lips) that gets weird.

Joe Rogan 28:30 Well, e- well, not only that, but, of course that, but also, to me, there's something strange about the denial of death, the denial of that life is finite in a physical form, and the idea that you are going to live forever, to me, feels there's gotta be some examination of that.

Tim Dillon 28:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:58 Part of this feels like that a little bit.

Tim Dillon 29:00 There's a little bit of that.

Joe Rogan 29:01 Some of these people are trying to live forever and I'm wondering about that.

Tim Dillon 29:05 Well, they certainly want to stay younger for a lot longer than anybody ever has before. And then you get into the weird realm of a lot of these people that want to do something to the body where it becomes immortal. Right?

Joe Rogan 29:25 Right. And that, that's very interesting to me. And I, I-

Tim Dillon 29:27 Transhumanism.

Joe Rogan 29:28 Yeah. That to me is a little scary. I don't understand. I'm not smart enough to understand it, and I worry about it from many angles.

Tim Dillon 29:36 Well-

Joe Rogan 29:36 It gets weird when it's really rich people.

Tim Dillon 29:39 Right. Right, because when it's really young people (clears throat) and you're like, you wanna stay young forever, so you're 23 and you're getting Botox. Oh, you poor kid.

Joe Rogan 29:46 Right.

Tim Dillon 29:47 You're just delusional. You don't know what you're doing.

Joe Rogan 29:48 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 29:48 You're fucking up. But when you wanna stay alive forever and you continue to amass insane amounts of wealth-

Joe Rogan 29:58 Right.

Tim Dillon 29:58 ... that's where it gets weird. Like-

Joe Rogan 29:59 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 29:59 ... you don't want to quit the game. Like you're in this, uh, you know, having in- incredible-

Joe Rogan 30:04 Right.

Tim Dillon 30:05 ... financial influence over the world game.

Joe Rogan 30:07 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 30:08 You're worth $80 billion, $200 billion, and you wanna keep that ball rolling.

Joe Rogan 30:13 That to me is a little scary.

Tim Dillon 30:15 Well, it's scary because (clears throat) if the game continues, like let's look at, um, like, look at Bezos for example.

Joe Rogan 30:21 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 30:21 Right? Like, let's im- imagine that Amazon continues to expand and grow. Bezos continues to profit off of it, and right now he's like, what is he, like 58 or 59 or something like that?

Joe Rogan 30:32 About that, probably.

Tim Dillon 30:34 Well, what would he be when he's 120? Would he have $30 trillion?

Joe Rogan 30:38 He'd have fi-

Tim Dillon 30:38 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 30:39 ... a lot more than he does now.

Tim Dillon 30:40 And w- would that... When-

Joe Rogan 30:41 And his power would grow.

Tim Dillon 30:43 And if people started encroaching on that power-

Joe Rogan 30:46 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 30:46 ... and trying to limit it and trying to... You know- you know, that's where it gets weird. They get defensive, right?

Joe Rogan 30:50 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 30:50 If people wanna, "Tax the rich! Eat the rich!"

Joe Rogan 30:53 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 30:53 They get a little. And they're like, "Okay, I gotta fucking build thicker walls."

Joe Rogan 30:57 Get the bunkers.

Tim Dillon 30:58 Yeah, "I gotta do something."

Joe Rogan 31:00 Well, they just said-

Tim Dillon 31:00 "And I'll also have to create..." Well-

Joe Rogan 31:01 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 31:01 "... work to, with the government to create some laws."

Joe Rogan 31:04 The World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab just said... And I think it was Klaus Schwab, not Larry Fink, the black, the Blackstone guy, or BlackRock, who's now the interim president or whatever.

Tim Dillon 31:13 Thank God.

Joe Rogan 31:14 Thank God. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 31:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:16 Someone who understands the issues. Um, but Klaus Schwab is basically like, "I believe we're heading towards stakeholder capitalism."

Tim Dillon 31:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:26 Which is people, private individuals, that have a s... It's a public-private partnership where you have guys like Bill Gates, Elon Bezos, whoever, people at that level that have a large stake in a public-private partnership that's running society.

Tim Dillon 31:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:48 And I think that scares people a little bit or it's a curiosity because you start going... And it's always kind of been the case. I mean, JP Morgan bailed the federal government out years ago. Like, these guys have always had a ton of power, but with tech, the level of power in terms of surveillance and data mining and the power over your life has never been as Orwellian as it is now. And it... Even with AI and all of these models, it's even going to get more intrusive.

Tim Dillon 32:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:18 So I think it's not only these great fortunes, but it's their capability to literally be gods, to literally know what you're thinking, what you fear, what you want, your desires, all of these things, having all your data, knowing everything you do, knowing how fast your heart is beating. You know, all these wearable things that you have that are transmitting frequencies to, you know, some place-

Tim Dillon 32:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:44 ... where all of your health data is being stored. That's what bothers a lot of people. It's what bothers people about this Palantir thing.

Tim Dillon 32:51 Yeah. Yeah, we were talking about that yesterday.

Joe Rogan 32:54 Yeah. The Palantir thing is very odd.

Tim Dillon 32:56 A lot of people feel that this is the precursor to a, you know, social credit score.

Joe Rogan 33:02 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 33:03 A digital kind of police state.

Joe Rogan 33:05 Mm-hmm.

Tim Dillon 33:06 And that it's being done under the guise of security, that you will be safer.

Joe Rogan 33:10 Which is what the Patriot Act was brought through with.

Tim Dillon 33:12 That's exactly right. It's always the case. It's always the case.

Joe Rogan 33:14 Always.

Tim Dillon 33:14 They always sneak it in, like, "You gotta be safe."

Joe Rogan 33:17 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 33:17 And then you get the Benjamin Franklin quote.

Joe Rogan 33:20 "The people that w- want security..." Right. "They, they, they..." Something about, "They deserve neither-"

Tim Dillon 33:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:25 "... the trade liberty for security-"

Tim Dillon 33:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:26 "... deserve neither." Yeah, I mean, it's true. I just think... You know, uh, you know, Peter Thiel is giving a four-part lecture on the Antichrist.

Tim Dillon 33:35 Yeah, that seems odd.

Joe Rogan 33:37 Four part... Well, here's what's really wild to me. Four parts. It's not just one. One lecture on the Antichrist would be insane. This guy's doing a series. He's doing a four-part lecture on the Antichrist, and nobody in his inner orbit went, "Peter, how about one lecture on the Antichrist or no lectures? Not four."

Tim Dillon 34:01 Well, I don't think he understands the optics.

Joe Rogan 34:04 He certainly does not.

Tim Dillon 34:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:07 It's- it's- it's odd. Yeah.

Tim Dillon 34:10 Tickets sold out. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:12 (laughs) Well, of course.

Tim Dillon 34:13 Well, it's a private, it's a private lecture at a club in San Francisco about the Antichrist. What does he know about the Antichrist? Is he, like-

Joe Rogan 34:21 I'm guessing a lot.

Tim Dillon 34:23 Th- uh... If- if you told me there was a movie-

Joe Rogan 34:26 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 34:27 ... and there was a guy who played the Antichrist. Zoom in on that image of him.

Joe Rogan 34:29 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 34:31 I would say, "Oh, is that him? Is that the Antichrist?"

Joe Rogan 34:37 This is like me doing a four-part lecture on Long Island racism.

Tim Dillon 34:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:44 (laughs) Just to show everybody, you know, how much I know about it and how scary it is and how we gotta watch out for it, but it's totally not me or anyone I know.

Tim Dillon 34:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:55 It's no one that's ever been in my backyard, but those others... He's a, he's just kind of, uh, you know, leaning in, I guess.

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Tim Dillon 36:42 Well, I just don't understand, like, w- why, what... I would like... Someone saw it. Someone saw one of the lectures that he did on the Antichrist.

Joe Rogan 36:51 Was it good?

Tim Dillon 36:52 It might have been Duncan. He said it was boring.

Joe Rogan 36:54 It's of course gonna be boring.

Tim Dillon 36:56 But I don't understand. Like, what is he doing?

Joe Rogan 36:59 He's trying to prove he's not the Antichrist.

Tim Dillon 37:01 By talking, by ratting him out. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:02 By doing it. He's like, "If I was the An-" I mean, that's probably how the lecture starts. He goes, "Now if I was the Antichrist, I obviously wouldn't be doing this lecture."

Tim Dillon 37:11 You know what it's like?

Joe Rogan 37:12 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 37:12 It's like those really shitty men-

Joe Rogan 37:15 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 37:15 ... that become male feminists.

Joe Rogan 37:16 Right. (laughs) Right, yeah.

Tim Dillon 37:17 And then they tweet, "Believe all women."

Joe Rogan 37:19 Yeah. Well, no, yes.

Tim Dillon 37:20 And you're like, "Hey, hey, hey, hey."

Joe Rogan 37:21 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 37:21 "I know you."

Joe Rogan 37:23 Right. Well, didn't-

Tim Dillon 37:23 "You're a piece of shit."

Joe Rogan 37:24 Didn't O.J. Simpson write a book called If I Did It?

Tim Dillon 37:27 Yeah. I have a copy of it.

Joe Rogan 37:28 So, this is Peter Thiel's version of that.

Tim Dillon 37:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:31 His lecture on the Antichrist is If I Did It, by O.J.

Tim Dillon 37:33 I think my wife threw it out, honestly.

Joe Rogan 37:35 No!

Tim Dillon 37:36 Yes.

Joe Rogan 37:36 Oh, come on.

Tim Dillon 37:37 She's known to do things like that.

Joe Rogan 37:39 I get it. As a woman, you would see it and go, "He doesn't need this."

Tim Dillon 37:42 Well, she thinks it's for f- because I go-

Joe Rogan 37:44 For fun, yeah.

Tim Dillon 37:44 ... "Somebody gave it to me for fun."

Joe Rogan 37:46 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 37:46 It's signed.

Joe Rogan 37:47 Right.

Tim Dillon 37:47 It was a signed copy.

Joe Rogan 37:48 Amazing.

Tim Dillon 37:48 And sometimes she will throw things like that out if they're not... if they gather dust for a little too long.

Joe Rogan 37:53 I understand.

Tim Dillon 37:54 I don't take a... I don't lock it in my office.

Joe Rogan 37:56 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 37:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:58 If I Did It is laying on the kitchen counter.

Tim Dillon 38:00 But it... I got... I had a copy of it for a... I didn't even open it.

Joe Rogan 38:03 It's so strange.

Tim Dillon 38:04 I... No, I did open it. I did. I opened it a little bit, and I was like, "What?"

Joe Rogan 38:07 It's so strange to have this... You build military AI, military drone, autonomous drone technology-

Tim Dillon 38:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:14 ... to, to export to war zones all over the world.

Tim Dillon 38:16 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:17 You build domestic surveillance technology to surveil our friends and neighbors, and then your other pet passion is the Antichrist.

Tim Dillon 38:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:31 It's odd. Wouldn't you include tennis? Wouldn't you go, "And I'm big into tennis."? Something else.

Tim Dillon 38:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:40 It's odd. And I like ice fishing. I build autonomous drone technology, I build domestic surveillance technology, and-

Tim Dillon 38:47 And I love lake trout.

Joe Rogan 38:48 And I love lake trout, and I love bigmouth bass fishing.

Tim Dillon 38:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:52 But instead, he goes, "And I've also developed quite a keen interest in Satan."

Tim Dillon 38:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:00 "And I'd love to..." (laughs) "And I'd love to talk to everyone about it." For four s- fucking things in San Francisco.

Tim Dillon 39:08 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 39:09 Four things in San Francisco.

Tim Dillon 39:12 Hmm. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:12 Seems a bit much.

Tim Dillon 39:13 Uh, what's Whitney Webb's take on this?

Joe Rogan 39:15 I bet it's, it's... She's probably re-... I mean, Whitney's research is so unbelievable.

Tim Dillon 39:20 Oh, but by the way, I should say-

Joe Rogan 39:22 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 39:22 Before I go any further than that.

Joe Rogan 39:23 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 39:23 Whitney Webb has some strange conspiracy that she believes someone's trying to keep her from being on my show.

Joe Rogan 39:29 Interesting.

Tim Dillon 39:30 Yeah. Whitney, I'll have you on the show. I just haven't reached out because I have thousands of people to go through. That's all it is.

Joe Rogan 39:36 She's busy.

Tim Dillon 39:37 I would definitely do it though. The idea that I would-

Joe Rogan 39:38 We've got Whitney on a bunch. We-

Tim Dillon 39:39 The idea that I wouldn't do it is incorrect, and I apologize.

Joe Rogan 39:43 She's an enormously, um-

Tim Dillon 39:46 Autistic?

Joe Rogan 39:47 Well, there's a lot of this... She talks like this a lot, and she's just... The pentameter of her voice is very like this, and she goes-

Tim Dillon 39:51 She knows a lot.

Joe Rogan 39:52 She knows a lot about things. She goes, "Jeffrey Epstein, on the third day in January 1996, he met with this guy." You know?

Tim Dillon 39:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:58 But she is-

Tim Dillon 39:59 With no nopes... no notes. She's off the top of her head.

Joe Rogan 40:02 She just goes.

Tim Dillon 40:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:02 But she's really enormously amazing at research.

Tim Dillon 40:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:07 She's an amazing researcher.

Tim Dillon 40:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:08 She, like, has compiled the data.

Tim Dillon 40:11 Yeah. No, she-

Joe Rogan 40:12 You know?

Tim Dillon 40:12 She definitely has. And how did they kill all those people in Germany, and nobody's whacked her yet?

Joe Rogan 40:18 She's somewhere in South America, I think.

Tim Dillon 40:20 Good move.

Joe Rogan 40:21 Yeah. Smart.

Tim Dillon 40:22 Yeah, I guess.

Joe Rogan 40:23 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 40:23 But I mean, how much resources does she have to protect herself down there?

Joe Rogan 40:26 One of the reasons I think people like her end up being safe is she writes these very big, um, very studious books that no one in America reads.

Tim Dillon 40:35 That's it. Where no one... It's not a threat-

Joe Rogan 40:38 It's not a threat.

Tim Dillon 40:38 ... because it doesn't go mainstream.

Joe Rogan 40:40 It's not a threat. Now, these big Hollywood types that go, "I'm gonna blow the whistle on whatever the hell's going on." They go, "Bye-bye."

Tim Dillon 40:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:46 You know what I mean? Or a mainstream journalist who's like, "I'm gonna write an article about something, and you know, it's gonna lead to a congressional investigation."

Tim Dillon 40:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:55 They go, "Bye-bye."

Tim Dillon 40:56 Yeah. It's when you actually create problems, not when you're just a part of the right-wing conspiracy ecosphere.

Joe Rogan 41:03 Yeah, 'cause they can just dismiss you-

Tim Dillon 41:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:04 ... as a crank, and then you've written-

Tim Dillon 41:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:06 ... volumes of this book, and no one cares. Like, and I... And by the way, I'm not saying it's not a great book. I'm saying it's not moving the needle for them. If you have a hard drive, uh, with something on it, a U- USB, if somebody gives you, you know... If you have something that could put them in jail-

Tim Dillon 41:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:26 ... you're dead.

Tim Dillon 41:28 So, how is Anthony Weiner still alive?

Joe Rogan 41:31 Anthony Weiner's still alive because... I believe there's two possibilities. Number one, there's a dead man switch somewhere.

Tim Dillon 41:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 41:38 Meaning that there's something somewhere.

Tim Dillon 41:41 You know the story about his laptop with the cops that saw it?

Joe Rogan 41:44 And the c- Supposedly, they're all dead?

Tim Dillon 41:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:46 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 41:47 A bunch of them.

Joe Rogan 41:48 Crazy.

Tim Dillon 41:49 Yeah. How many cops are dead?

Narrator 41:50 I'm looking.

Tim Dillon 41:51 Google that. And... But the other thing is that they said what they saw-

Joe Rogan 41:54 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 41:54 ... was so horrific-

Joe Rogan 41:56 Then that's... They... Yeah.

Tim Dillon 41:57 ... and like some of them took their own lives.

Joe Rogan 42:00 Well, that's crazy that, that... Whenever I... Whenever there's so many suicides, I start to get a little... I'm like, "Wait a minute, hold on, what happened here?"

Tim Dillon 42:09 Also, do you ever see him on Patrick Beck David when he starts bringing up the, the Clinton body count?

Joe Rogan 42:13 Yeah, and, and, and, and-

Tim Dillon 42:14 And he gets like super defensive.

Joe Rogan 42:16 Well, it's very obvious that-

Narrator 42:18 The Grok, the Grok conversation came up with an answer here.

Tim Dillon 42:20 Grok.

Joe Rogan 42:21 So, is it not true?

Narrator 42:22 I don't know.

Tim Dillon 42:23 Okay, um-

Joe Rogan 42:24 Grok's been compromised.

Tim Dillon 42:24 A claim that nine of the 12 NYPD officers who viewed Anthony Weiner's laptop suks- subsequently died by suicide has been widely circulated, but it lacks substantiation with concrete evidence linking these officers directly to Weiner's laptop. Here's the details based on available information. Joseph Calabrese... By the way, that guy's on the take. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:46 Right, right.

Tim Dillon 42:47 That name.

Joe Rogan 42:48 No, of course.

Tim Dillon 42:48 Hey, Joseph wants a taste.

Joe Rogan 42:50 Hey.

Tim Dillon 42:50 Joseph Calabrese, he sounds like a great chef, NYPD detective allegedly involved in Anthony Weiner investigation was found dead from an apartment self-inflicted gunshot wound, which unfortunately...... a lot of cops-

Joe Rogan 43:02 Have this, yeah.

Tim Dillon 43:02 ... have taken their own lives. They'll- a lot of PTSD. It's a fucking horrible job. However, there's no direct evidence linking him to viewing the laptop's contents. Okay. Steven Silks, Deputy Chief of NYPD, reportedly involved with the laptop investigation, was found dead in an apparent suicide. Like Calabrese, no, no evidence confirms his involvement. Doesn't mean he wasn't involved-

Joe Rogan 43:27 Right.

Tim Dillon 43:27 ... uh, viewing the specific incriminating files on Weiner's laptop. Other officers, various reports mention a total of nine NYPD officers who committed suicide in 2019, but no official sources or credible reports explicitly connect these suicides to viewing Weiner's laptop. How could they?

Joe Rogan 43:45 There's, there, this is one of those non-denial denials. You would have to know somebody-

Tim Dillon 43:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:48 ... in the police force. By the way-

Tim Dillon 43:50 But it also could be bullshit.

Joe Rogan 43:51 It could absolutely be bullshit, but there is, I have zero problem believing that Anthony Weiner had a laptop with some very bad things on it.

Tim Dillon 44:00 Well, for sure, he was involved... Look, he was... They were grooming that guy to be some huge politician.

Joe Rogan 44:12 Absolutely.

Tim Dillon 44:12 And then, somehow or another, he's sending his dick pictures to young people.

Joe Rogan 44:18 There's definitely, and, and it's been exposed I think, by the Epstein thing, there's, there's an entire ecosystem of, uh, depravity-

Tim Dillon 44:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:30 ... amongst the ruling elites, that people go to great lengths to cover up.

Tim Dillon 44:35 Yes.

Joe Rogan 44:35 This is obvious. So-

Tim Dillon 44:37 Yes, and always has.

Joe Rogan 44:38 And always has, forever and ever and ever. And there would, it would make, it would be absolutely plausible to me that people have died to cover this stuff up, as Jean-Luc Bedard, Jeffrey Epstein, many others.

Tim Dillon 44:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:56 Maybe Virginia Giuffre, I don't know. But like, there's tons of questionable deaths linked to the Epstein thing. And, by the way, linked to things like the Franklin scandal that happened many years ago. All of the- Gary, Gary Caradori was an investigator who supposedly had proof of politicians abusing children, plane goes down with this kid.

Tim Dillon 45:17 Whitewater.

Joe Rogan 45:18 Whitewater.

Tim Dillon 45:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:20 Suspicious deaths.

Tim Dillon 45:22 Vi- Vince Foster.

Joe Rogan 45:24 Su- very suspicious death.

Tim Dillon 45:25 I read that book, The Strange Death of Vince Foster.

Joe Rogan 45:28 Very odd.

Tim Dillon 45:28 In the, like the '90s or whenever it was that I got a copy of that.

Joe Rogan 45:31 Well, the Clintons-

Tim Dillon 45:31 I was like, "This is bananas."

Joe Rogan 45:32 He was the p- the Governor of Arkansas when they were running drugs out of Mena, Arkansas to fund the Contras.

Tim Dillon 45:39 Barry Seals.

Joe Rogan 45:40 Absolutely.

Tim Dillon 45:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:41 Bill Clinton was the governor of that state. Bill Clinton reads a book called, uh, it's a famous book by Carroll Quigley, I believe called Tragedy and Hope. And it's a history of the whatever, the 20th century or something. The, uh, you know, it's this compendium. Uh, it's Bill Clinton's favorite author. He reads this book, and he's, you know, attends the, you know, Bohemian Grove. He's selected by very wealthy, powerful people to then become a party elder and a leader. And many people believe, myself, uh, is that in order to be selected by that group of people to run for the highest office in the land, they have something on you.

Tim Dillon 46:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:24 You're, to some degree, compromised. You've shown willingness to play the game. You've looked the other way, at the very least. Maybe you're, you're, you've engaged. But, at the very least, if somebody goes, "Something's going on in Mena, Arkansas," you go, "Ah, don't have time for it." And you've shown the willingness to play the game.

Tim Dillon 46:44 Yes.

Joe Rogan 46:45 And so he's the governor of a very small state-

Tim Dillon 46:48 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 46:49 ... that isn't, isn't, you know, Arkansas's a beautiful state, and there's whatever. But he's not, you know, he's not like running a huge state. He's not, uh, you know, a, a, a well-known politician. He's a very, he's a very charismatic, very great speaker, great politician, but from a very small state. He's then elevated very quickly to the standard-bearer of the Democratic Party, after tons of allegations about inappropriate behavior with women, credible allegations of rape from Juanita Broaddrick, being the governor during th- that whole Mena, Arkansas thing. You know, he's, they, h- it's well-known that there are skeletons-

Tim Dillon 47:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:37 ... in the closet.

Tim Dillon 47:38 It's a good guy that's gonna play the game for you.

Joe Rogan 47:41 Yeah, and he knows, and he's gonna play the game. And, and his wife is gonna play the game.

Tim Dillon 47:45 But doesn't it go all the way back to college? Like think about like-

Joe Rogan 47:48 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 47:48 ... Skull and Bones-

Joe Rogan 47:49 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 47:49 ... and all those different thi- Like if you wanna be a part of these clubs and little secret societies and organizations, you gotta do some weird shit. You gotta suck someone's dick. You gotta, you know-

Joe Rogan 47:58 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 47:58 ... they gotta put a wine bottle up your ass and take a picture of it. There's gotta be something that happens.

Joe Rogan 48:02 There's gotta be some... I think back then, there was a ton of that, and I think now there's probably still a lot of that. But I think also now what they do with people, in addition to those things, is they just have the ability with technology to know kinda what you're doing.

Tim Dillon 48:21 Well, 'cause now it's off the charts.

Joe Rogan 48:22 Now it's off the charts.

Tim Dillon 48:23 Now it's off the charts.

Joe Rogan 48:24 Now it's like now they've got you dead to rights-

Tim Dillon 48:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:27 ... on a lot of shit.

Tim Dillon 48:28 Yeah, if you're doing-

Joe Rogan 48:29 You know?

Tim Dillon 48:29 ... something fucked up, they know-

Joe Rogan 48:31 They know.

Tim Dillon 48:31 ... for sure.

Joe Rogan 48:31 They know.

Tim Dillon 48:32 Yeah, and then they're holding onto those cards.

Joe Rogan 48:33 'Cause back then, you're right, it was almost quaint back then.

Tim Dillon 48:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:37 They were like-

Tim Dillon 48:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:37 ... come to the tomb-

Tim Dillon 48:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:39 ... show everybody your dick or whatever, jerk off in a coffin.

Tim Dillon 48:42 Let Bob pee in your mouth.

Joe Rogan 48:43 Let Bob pee in your mouth. Now it's gotten to the point where they like, they have you, and know what you're doing. You're on the grid and you've been on the grid for your whole life, by the way.

Tim Dillon 48:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:54 Now kids growing up, young people growing up, have been on the grid their entire life.

Tim Dillon 48:57 Their whole life, everything is out there.

Joe Rogan 48:59 Now people are going, "Please, Bob, pee in my mouth. Like just let me have that one night." "I'm now surveilled no matter what you're doing."

Tim Dillon 49:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:08 ... I mean, you know, that's the thing that a lot of people talk about. DC is this hotbed of, like, everyone in Congress and a lot of people, you know, i- in- in the Senate, Congress, White House, whatever. They're all mixed up in these weird shenanigans.

Tim Dillon 49:22 Well, didn't you just have Marjorie Taylor Greene?

Joe Rogan 49:24 We're having her on soon. Yeah, it's coming out soon.

Tim Dillon 49:25 You're having her on soon.

Joe Rogan 49:26 She talks about that a lot.

Tim Dillon 49:28 Yeah. Well, do you remember the DC Madam case?

Joe Rogan 49:31 They got rid of her at Deborah Jean Palfrey.

Tim Dillon 49:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:33 Dead.

Tim Dillon 49:33 What happened to her?

Joe Rogan 49:34 Dead.

Tim Dillon 49:35 How inconvenient.

Joe Rogan 49:36 So sad. Unfortunate.

Tim Dillon 49:38 Super unfortunate that a lady-

Joe Rogan 49:40 Super unfortunate.

Tim Dillon 49:40 ... who was bringing prostitutes to all these powerful people-

Joe Rogan 49:43 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 49:44 ... wound up dying after she said that she was gonna reveal who was on the list.

Joe Rogan 49:47 But that, again, is the... Now think about that and Epstein as that times 100 'cause now it's-

Tim Dillon 49:59 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:59 ... international.

Tim Dillon 50:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:01 Now you have leaders of all... Like we- we've got our congressmen, senators.

Tim Dillon 50:05 Well, you went from millionaires to billionaires.

Joe Rogan 50:06 Millionaires to billionaires.

Tim Dillon 50:07 That's the difference.

Joe Rogan 50:08 That's right.

Tim Dillon 50:09 The- the congressmen, I mean, even Nancy Pelosi, that pauper.

Joe Rogan 50:12 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 50:13 What? She's worth a paltry 400 million. They laugh at that.

Joe Rogan 50:15 She's nothing. In the grand scheme of things, she's nothing. She's just an ordinary crook.

Tim Dillon 50:19 Yeah. And-

Joe Rogan 50:20 And- and- and- and respect to her and her husband for all his returns. 54% or whatever.

Tim Dillon 50:25 More.

Joe Rogan 50:26 Killing it.

Tim Dillon 50:27 Pretty amazing.

Joe Rogan 50:27 Killing it.

Tim Dillon 50:28 I mean, that's why-

Joe Rogan 50:29 Why marry that old witch if you can't get your beak wet?

Tim Dillon 50:32 (laughs) 'Cause she's got some big yabbos.

Joe Rogan 50:34 But do you know what I mean? She does have big yabbos, but-

Tim Dillon 50:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:37 She's another... Why don't they give her a head? She's got that money.

Tim Dillon 50:40 She needs a new head. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:41 Get a head.

Tim Dillon 50:42 Well, I think she doesn't want to do it now because she doesn't people to not recognize her.

Joe Rogan 50:46 That's true.

Tim Dillon 50:47 'Cause if you're a Kris Kardashian-

Joe Rogan 50:48 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 50:49 ... and you're wandering around now-

Joe Rogan 50:50 I would not know her... If I saw her in Beverly Hills-

Tim Dillon 50:52 Right.

Joe Rogan 50:53 ... I would not know who that is.

Tim Dillon 50:54 Kelly Osbourne? Who's that?

Joe Rogan 50:56 Who knows?

Tim Dillon 50:56 That's not the lady from that show that I used to watch when I was a kid.

Joe Rogan 50:59 No. No, it's completely a different person.

Tim Dillon 51:01 Yeah. She's hot now.

Joe Rogan 51:03 Is there a possibility there's a Jeffrey Epstein walking around that we don't know who it is?

Tim Dillon 51:07 Is it possible that Jeffrey Epstein didn't die in his cell and that's all horseshit?

Joe Rogan 51:09 I was told by someone who, um... And this is probably ridiculous, but they say there is a possibility that Epstein is... You know, Les Wexner has got that big house in Ohio.

Tim Dillon 51:21 He's there?

Joe Rogan 51:22 They... Somebody said, "It's a possibility, a tiny one, that he's living at Les Wexner's house in Ohio."

Tim Dillon 51:27 If that was true, there would be like-

Joe Rogan 51:30 No, I'm not saying-

Tim Dillon 51:31 There would be like a service that delivers masseuses-

Joe Rogan 51:33 Of course.

Tim Dillon 51:34 ... to that house.

Joe Rogan 51:34 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 51:35 There's no way that guy's stopping doing creepy shit.

Joe Rogan 51:36 They'll shut their mouth. Here's the other thing. They'll shut their mouth 'cause it's very easy... There's... Obviously, the abuse is horrific, but I guarantee there are people that would still shut their mouth.

Tim Dillon 51:49 Yes.

Joe Rogan 51:49 You could find them.

Tim Dillon 51:50 Yeah. I'm sure.

Joe Rogan 51:50 You could find them.

Tim Dillon 51:51 Well, I think that's the whole idea behind this. And this is what, uh, Eric Weinstein said to me.

Joe Rogan 51:56 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 51:56 He said, "I believe that there are people that curate experiences for people that are very high profile and very wealthy."

Joe Rogan 52:03 That's right. Which what I'll be doing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia-

Tim Dillon 52:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:05 ... and Abu Dhabi the night before. Get your tickets now, Tim Donlin.

Tim Dillon 52:08 You're doing Abu Dhabi the night before?

Joe Rogan 52:09 The night before to warm up. October-

Tim Dillon 52:12 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 52:12 I'll be in October, uh, Abu Dhabi, October 6th, and then Riyadh, October 8th. And October 7th, a day of rest and remembrance.

Tim Dillon 52:19 Wow.

Joe Rogan 52:20 What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?

Tim Dillon 52:23 Are you bringing security or what?

Joe Rogan 52:24 Tel Aviv, pay me. Supposedly, MBS is a fan of mine. I don't know if that's true, but Sam Morril told me and Sam Morril's not a liar.

Tim Dillon 52:32 Well, why wouldn't he be a fan?

Joe Rogan 52:33 His agent told me.

Tim Dillon 52:33 You're- you're talking shit about all the people he hates.

Joe Rogan 52:36 Well, I have fun. I think MBS has fun.

Tim Dillon 52:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:41 I have a fun life. I don't apologize. I think we have a good time on this planet. We're here for... We don't hurt other people. We don't do anything wrong. I don't know what he's doing. Perhaps he's hurt others. I wasn't in the room. And-

Tim Dillon 52:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:58 And I think that, you know, I- I think... I believe in luxury as a concept. They wanna p- they want the Middle East to be a little more progressive. They want it to be luxurious.

Tim Dillon 53:08 Women can drive now.

Joe Rogan 53:10 Women are driving. Listen, listen, if we c-... We don't want the gays going off the roof. Obviously, I don't wanna be thrown off a roof, but we also... Do we need them to... With the purple hair and the 15 genders? No. Let's stop somewhere in the middle.

Tim Dillon 53:23 Mm.

Joe Rogan 53:24 Maybe we stop somewhere in the middle.

Tim Dillon 53:26 Mm. So maybe he's just like an agent of change.

Joe Rogan 53:31 That's what I'm going with.

Tim Dillon 53:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:35 He's perhaps an agent of change. You know what I mean?

Tim Dillon 53:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:38 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 53:38 I see.

Joe Rogan 53:40 Uh, I don't think it... You know, I mean, listen, there were comics who went to perform in Israel that got stuck there because of the Iran-Israel war-

Tim Dillon 53:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:48 ... and they had to get out.

Tim Dillon 53:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:50 I didn't go, "How dare you perform there?"

Tim Dillon 53:53 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:53 You know? You went to Israel to perform. Okay.

Tim Dillon 53:57 Well, in Israel right now, where they went to perform, Tel Aviv, there's massive protests on the street about what's happening in Gaza.

Joe Rogan 54:04 Yes.

Tim Dillon 54:05 In Israel.

Joe Rogan 54:05 That's right.

Tim Dillon 54:06 Israel proto-

Joe Rogan 54:07 P- p- people are sick of it. They've had enough of it.

Tim Dillon 54:08 Half a million people. Half a million people in Tel Aviv.

Joe Rogan 54:11 Yes.

Tim Dillon 54:12 On the streets.

Joe Rogan 54:13 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 54:13 Pro-

Joe Rogan 54:13 I mean, they want Net... You know, I think a lot of people have- have started to s- they are seeing the- the grift here. Netanyahu is keeping... He wants this war to go on for decades.

Tim Dillon 54:22 Well, he's been running that country for how long now?

Joe Rogan 54:24 He's been running it a long time. They haven't had elections in a while. He's got this- this, you know, war, uh, this crisis government or whatever they've compiled.

Tim Dillon 54:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 54:33 You know, I mean, I think it's time to... A lot of people are going, "Enough is enough."

Tim Dillon 54:36 Well, thank God the NELK Boys got to the bottom of everything.

Joe Rogan 54:39 They got to the bottom of it and, you know, it was a brilliant... I didn't know how he felt about (laughs) Burger King. I never knew and now I do. Um, well, listen, we have these shows. Everybody has a platform. Everybody wants to be on these shows and everybody has a line of bullshit. We all... We know. It's the way it is.

Tim Dillon 55:02 Yes.

Joe Rogan 55:02 It's the way it is. It's unavoidable. It's not... You can't avoid it. People get mad. "You s- you talked to who?" Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's what it is. You're listening to the thing.... maybe I do a great job, maybe I do a okay job, maybe I do a bad job. I don't know. But you're the person listening. You can choose to like it, dislike it. You can say, "That guy's full of shit." You can say, "I agree with him there, but I don't agree with him there." You could say, "I distrust this person." You could say, "He makes my spidey senses go off." Those are all avail- you can have any of those thoughts. You know?

Tim Dillon 55:38 And you could also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to that person.

Joe Rogan 55:40 You can also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to that person.

Tim Dillon 55:43 Yeah, when people have that thought with me-

Joe Rogan 55:44 And that's fair.

Tim Dillon 55:44 ... and, or that I don't push back hard enough, or... You're allowed to think all those things. Everybody's allowed to have their own opinions on all this shit.

Joe Rogan 55:52 Everyone's allowed. Everyone's allowed.

Tim Dillon 55:53 Um, but, you know, we're living in the wildest fucking time.

Joe Rogan 55:57 This is the wildest time probably that, that I can remember. I'm sure there's other wilder times. Well-

Tim Dillon 56:03 I think this is globally the wildest time ever, because there's never been a connection like this with everybody and everything.

Joe Rogan 56:09 A guy who's perpetuating an ethnic cleansing going on the podcast of, uh, prank video influencers to discuss Burger King is one of the craziest things I've seen in my life.

Tim Dillon 56:23 You know, and what's al-

Joe Rogan 56:24 But that's crazy.

Tim Dillon 56:26 Also, wasn't there, like, pre-prepared-

Joe Rogan 56:28 And it's th-

Tim Dillon 56:28 ... questions that they had-

Joe Rogan 56:29 They were pre-

Tim Dillon 56:30 ... to stick to?

Joe Rogan 56:30 Number one, there were pre-pre-pre-pre-prepared questions. Number two, Burger King does suck. Number three-

Tim Dillon 56:36 I liked them when I was a kid.

Joe Rogan 56:38 They fell off.

Tim Dillon 56:38 I liked the whole flame broiled.

Joe Rogan 56:39 Wendy's fell off. It was all great.

Tim Dillon 56:41 Wendy's fell off? Since when?

Joe Rogan 56:42 Wendy's has fallen off so hard. In the '90s, it was one of the best restaurants in the country.

Tim Dillon 56:45 But don't they still use fresh not frozen, or is that bullshit now?

Joe Rogan 56:48 You know, everybody's full of shit. I don't know. It's not good. It's not the same.

Tim Dillon 56:52 I always thought they were the best.

Joe Rogan 56:54 They were the best. In the '90s and the early 2000s, they were the best.

Tim Dillon 56:59 When I was coming home from The Comedy Store-

Joe Rogan 57:00 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 57:00 ... if I was a naughty boy-

Joe Rogan 57:01 Yeah, you'd go to Wendy's.

Tim Dillon 57:02 ... and I wanted to get some food, and I was like, "Oh, I gotta get something to eat."

Joe Rogan 57:04 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 57:04 "I'm so hungry."

Joe Rogan 57:05 Yeah. Go to Wendy's.

Tim Dillon 57:06 That was the move. If there was a Wendy's and a McDonald's-

Joe Rogan 57:09 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 57:09 ... there's no question. I'm going to Wendy's.

Joe Rogan 57:10 I think when you start with the pre-programmed questions, and you... It, it becomes... It's a... It's not an interview. It becomes... 'Cause we all know there's interviews. There's good ones. There's bad ones. There's things you wish you had asked. You go, "Oh, I should have blah, blah, blah."

Tim Dillon 57:24 It's a bit of a circus.

Joe Rogan 57:26 It's a circus.

Tim Dillon 57:27 Yeah. By the way-

Joe Rogan 57:28 And it's a staged publicity op.

Tim Dillon 57:30 I would've done pre-programmed questions with Kamala.

Joe Rogan 57:34 Right.

Tim Dillon 57:34 If they, if they had questions, I'm not... I don't have a problem with those.

Joe Rogan 57:37 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 57:37 As long as you give me the pre... So, she's-

Joe Rogan 57:40 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 57:40 ... willing to-

Joe Rogan 57:41 Do the... Yeah.

Tim Dillon 57:41 Okay.

Joe Rogan 57:41 I'll send you the questions.

Tim Dillon 57:42 So, these are the que- As, as long as it's pertinent-

Joe Rogan 57:44 You could-

Tim Dillon 57:45 Like, here's the questions.

Joe Rogan 57:46 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 57:46 Okay.

Joe Rogan 57:46 You could have given her 30 pre-programmed questions and two months to prepare, and it would have been a mess.

Tim Dillon 57:51 That's my thought.

Joe Rogan 57:52 It would have been a train wreck either way. You know?

Tim Dillon 57:53 It would have been a lot of fun.

Joe Rogan 57:54 This kid from Subway Takes!, or whatever, New York City, this guy who does these Subway interviews just said, "We didn't put out the Kamala Harris one, it was so bad."

Tim Dillon 58:03 Yeah, I heard about that.

Joe Rogan 58:03 He literally just came out and said, "We didn't want to tank her chances. It was terrible. She had this weird answer that made no sense, and we didn't put it out."

Tim Dillon 58:12 Wow.

Joe Rogan 58:14 This is-

Tim Dillon 58:14 Who is that guy?

Joe Rogan 58:15 It's some guy. I don't know. Some guy on the seat does the Subway thing.

Tim Dillon 58:19 Whatever.

Joe Rogan 58:19 Maybe I'm not saying it right. Maybe it's not Subway Takes!. I think it is. I think I'm right.

Tim Dillon 58:24 Here it is. Creator of Subway Takes! 100% disagrees. The entertainer, Karim Rama, discusses Kamala Harris' missed opportunity on his show meeting Andrew Cuomo and why disagreement is more fun. What does that mean? Um, TikTok version of The Tonight Show, wholesome, relatable comedy, even if some episodes acknowledge the existence of opioids and dick pics. The premise is exactly what it sounds like. The host, Karim Rama... I don't know if I'm saying his name right. Rama, uh, sits on a New York subway and asks, "So, what's your take?" The guest slings a take. The internet rocks. For example... This is dumb.

Narrator 59:01 We're not gonna get to the answer. It's blocked off with a thing.

Tim Dillon 59:03 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 59:03 Well, so he... The whole thing is, she went on the show-

Tim Dillon 59:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:06 ... he asked her something-

Narrator 59:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:06 ... she said something wild.

Tim Dillon 59:08 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:08 Her team and him decided this is not good.

Tim Dillon 59:11 Wasn't it, like, bacon is a spice? Wasn't that one of them?

Joe Rogan 59:13 S-

Tim Dillon 59:13 It's not the same guy?

Joe Rogan 59:13 She's a psychopath.

Tim Dillon 59:15 A- fresh proof that America dodged a Kamala bullet. Besides their kid gloves treatment for... Oh, they released some of it.

Joe Rogan 59:20 Oh.

Tim Dillon 59:20 Okay, let's click, click on that.

Narrator 59:22 Uh, I think it's him talking about it.

Joe Rogan 59:23 I think it's him talking about it. I don't think they've ever released it.

Narrator 59:26 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 59:26 Well, let me hear that.

Narrator 59:28 Well, I'm not-

Tim Dillon 59:28 Let me hear him say that.

Narrator 59:33 Her take was really confusing and weird-

Joe Rogan 59:35 (laughs)

Narrator 59:35 ... and not good. And so-

Tim Dillon 59:37 (laughs)

Narrator 59:37 ... we mutually agreed that, uh, we shouldn't publish it. Kamala Harris.

Tim Dillon 59:42 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 59:43 Yeah. Odd.

Tim Dillon 59:44 Confusing and weird. Do you think she's medicated?

Joe Rogan 59:48 I think she throws them back.

Tim Dillon 59:50 (Laughs) but is it just that?

Joe Rogan 59:52 No, she's got a couple of pills-

Tim Dillon 59:53 Because I have a feeling-

Joe Rogan 59:54 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 59:54 ... there's an anti-anxiety element.

Joe Rogan 59:55 No, she's got a couple of Xanny bars down her, down the ol' gullet.

Tim Dillon 59:59 Okay, so it is, she repeat- she reportedly said she'd talk about how she doesn't like to take her shoes off on airplanes. Okay. But Rama said that she instead pivoted to a really, really bad take that made no sense. Bacon is a spice.

Joe Rogan 1:00:16 That's one of the more coherent things I've heard her say.

Narrator 1:00:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:19 By the way.

Tim Dillon 1:00:19 Okay, um-

Joe Rogan 1:00:20 It's actually better than most of her...

Tim Dillon 1:00:22 Whether that was actually her idea or the advice of overpaid consultants. The- this is another thing. That campaign was a se- it had the elements, all the elements. If I was, uh, an investigator, that campaign had all the elements of money laundering.

Joe Rogan 1:00:41 Right.

Tim Dillon 1:00:41 You, you blew $1.5 billion over the course of a few months, and so much of it went to NGOs.

Joe Rogan 1:00:52 Of course.

Tim Dillon 1:00:53 Right?

Joe Rogan 1:00:53 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:00:53 So much of it went to these weird non-profits-

Joe Rogan 1:00:57 Yes.

Tim Dillon 1:00:57 ... that were supposedly going to help your campaign.

Joe Rogan 1:01:00 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:01:00 And... Well, who's at those NGO- this is like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:03 Right.

Tim Dillon 1:01:03 ... the LA Fire Fund.

Joe Rogan 1:01:05 That's right.

Tim Dillon 1:01:05 Right? It's like, okay, you, you gave the money to 188 different non-profits-

Joe Rogan 1:01:11 Right.

Tim Dillon 1:01:11 ... that all have overhead? And, like, what about the people that lost a house?

Joe Rogan 1:01:15 Right.

Tim Dillon 1:01:15 Isn't there, like, one guy who could just start cutting checks?

Joe Rogan 1:01:18 Right.

Tim Dillon 1:01:19 You've got $800 million, or whatever you got.

Joe Rogan 1:01:22 You're paying the salaries of people-

Tim Dillon 1:01:23 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:01:24 ... that work at an organization.

Tim Dillon 1:01:25 Which is kind of a money laundering operation.

Joe Rogan 1:01:27 Absolutely.

Tim Dillon 1:01:28 Especially when you find out that some of these people make upwards of a million dollars a year.

Joe Rogan 1:01:33 Well, what they're gonna do with this LA Fires land is still up in the air, but they had proposed zoning the Palisades for low-income housing, and people threw a big fit. And I think that they have backed off on that. I'm unsure, but I think Newsom's backing off on that, 'cause he, he is now positioning himself to be the Democratic presidential nominee. He's always-

Tim Dillon 1:01:52 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 1:01:53 ... been.... but now he's really doing it. And to his credit, he's having success, like, in this moment.

Tim Dillon 1:01:59 Well, you know, the su- some of the success that they're, they're hanging their hat on is his social media campaign where he talks like Trump.

Joe Rogan 1:02:07 Yes.

Tim Dillon 1:02:07 So he's got a bunch of people from his organization-

Joe Rogan 1:02:10 Yes.

Tim Dillon 1:02:10 ... that tweet for him-

Joe Rogan 1:02:11 Yes.

Tim Dillon 1:02:11 ... and they tweet like Trump, and they're saying, "This has elevated him in the public's eyes."

Joe Rogan 1:02:16 Right, yes.

Tim Dillon 1:02:17 That's fucking terrifying.

Joe Rogan 1:02:18 It's terrifying. He's, he's starting to learn the internet, um, you know, you know, sensibility, which is heavily, uh, trolling does very well-

Tim Dillon 1:02:35 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:35 ... you know, all that stuff. What he has is a terrible record in California-

Tim Dillon 1:02:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:39 ... and he's done terrible things to people's real lives.

Tim Dillon 1:02:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:43 But he's succeeding on the internet, so-

Tim Dillon 1:02:46 That's enough.

Joe Rogan 1:02:47 That's enough.

Tim Dillon 1:02:48 That's the thing, you don't have to be perfect.

Joe Rogan 1:02:49 But that's truly enough. You don't have to be perfect. He's having fun on the internet-

Tim Dillon 1:02:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:53 ... and the state is burned.

Tim Dillon 1:02:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:57 A- a- and people forget 'cause that was a few months ago and people have short memories. They go, "That tweet was fun." He did a post on X'd it was fun, and it doesn't matter that they let all the criminals out in California and burned everyone's house, you know?

Tim Dillon 1:03:10 Yeah. It's, uh ... That's how bad the Democratic Party is right now, that we can-

Joe Rogan 1:03:15 And he's not even the worst of them. He's bad, but the, the people go so much further than him. The problem with Gavin Newsom is that he's kind of an empty suit who is in the wind, will go whichever way.

Tim Dillon 1:03:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:31 So in a, in a, in a time like 2020 when everybody is incredibly, like, in the grips of mania and they're like, "Rioting's good. Rioting's protesting."

Tim Dillon 1:03:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:44 Burnings-

Tim Dillon 1:03:45 Defund the police.

Joe Rogan 1:03:45 Defund the police, let's get rid of cops. Gavin Newsom goes, puts out a bunch of crazy social media posts about, like, the importance of resistance and all this crap, and throws his own police force under the bus.

Tim Dillon 1:03:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:00 It's insane. But then when things, the pendulum swings back the other way, Gavin Newsom now becomes this sensible conservative that wants to r- or a sensible Democrat that wants to reach out to conservatives and, you know, he's like the Hollow Man.

Tim Dillon 1:04:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:17 He just wants to win. And that might be enough.

Tim Dillon 1:04:20 It might be enough. Well, you know, there's not a lot of other options.

Joe Rogan 1:04:24 No.

Tim Dillon 1:04:25 This is the thing, like, we're, we are now entering into 2026, okay? So, we only have four years betw- from 2024 to 2028. It's really only two years, you know? Because it's like everybody has to get accustomed to these people.

Joe Rogan 1:04:43 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:04:44 They have to be in the public eye. It's not like someone's gonna run for president within the last six months and they're gonna win.

Joe Rogan 1:04:49 Right.

Tim Dillon 1:04:49 Y- you need someone who's out there for minimum of 24 months.

Joe Rogan 1:04:53 Yes.

Tim Dillon 1:04:54 So, who else?

Joe Rogan 1:04:56 There's g-

Tim Dillon 1:04:56 We're in 2026, right? So we have two years left.

Joe Rogan 1:04:59 Trump.

Tim Dillon 1:05:00 So who?

Joe Rogan 1:05:00 Yeah, it's him. It's Gavin. It's him.

Tim Dillon 1:05:02 It has to be.

Joe Rogan 1:05:03 Now, on the right, there's going to be a power struggle, and either Trump will live through his term ... Let's hope he does, but he's 80, so you never know, but he's healthy enough right now.

Tim Dillon 1:05:14 Allegedly healthy enough.

Joe Rogan 1:05:15 Allegedly healthy enough.

Tim Dillon 1:05:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:17 If he lives through his term and he knights somebody, whether it's JD or whoever, that will be the person. There is a world in which he doesn't knight anyone, and there is a real power struggle between different factions of that party.

Tim Dillon 1:05:34 Well, who, what are the factions?

Joe Rogan 1:05:36 You have-

Tim Dillon 1:05:36 So you have JD-

Joe Rogan 1:05:37 You have JD.

Tim Dillon 1:05:38 ... who's, who's the vice president, who's the obvious.

Joe Rogan 1:05:40 The obvious.

Tim Dillon 1:05:41 And then the problem with Ron DeSantis is he wore stilts.

Joe Rogan 1:05:46 Ron DeSantis is a cop energy. He has a guy that pulled you over energy, and you go, "Was it really 85?" He's a prick. No one likes him. Everyone ... He's offends everyone. I knew a bunch of ... I- I know a friend who's in finance. A bunch of hedge fund guys went down to Florida. This was in, like, the throes of the campaign. He ended up insulting all of them. He's dismissive of people. He doesn't have it.

Tim Dillon 1:06:08 Hmm. Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:06:09 The question is Vance, who's smart, does Vance have it? There's doubts, real doubts that if he has it or not. I like him as a guy. There's doubts. I'm not saying he doesn't have it.

Tim Dillon 1:06:22 What are the, what are the doubts?

Joe Rogan 1:06:24 That he doesn't have it. He doesn't have the charisma. He's stiff as a board. He's a klutz. He dropped a trophy. He's not articulate enough. He doesn't, he doesn't have it. People-

Tim Dillon 1:06:32 He's still young.

Joe Rogan 1:06:33 Sure-

Tim Dillon 1:06:34 But that's the thing too.

Joe Rogan 1:06:34 But I'm saying these are the doubts.

Tim Dillon 1:06:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:35 Peo- he's young. He doesn't have the gravitas.

Tim Dillon 1:06:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:06:38 The wife's maybe not super into it.

Tim Dillon 1:06:40 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:06:40 I don't know.

Tim Dillon 1:06:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:06:42 These are the doubts.

Tim Dillon 1:06:43 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:06:43 These are the doubts you gotta overcome if you, if you wanna win.

Tim Dillon 1:06:46 All right. If not him, who else is it?

Joe Rogan 1:06:47 MTG.

Tim Dillon 1:06:49 (laughs) For real?

Joe Rogan 1:06:51 For realsies. Heard it here first. Get on the train now.

Tim Dillon 1:06:55 Are you, you're serious?

Joe Rogan 1:06:56 << Get on the train now. >>

Tim Dillon 1:07:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:07:00 << I might be involved. Get on the train now. Buy the stock now. Buy the crypto now. Buy the Ethereum now. >>

Tim Dillon 1:07:10 Uh.

Joe Rogan 1:07:11 We're launching a coin soon.

Tim Dillon 1:07:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:07:13 (laughs) The coin is crazy. Step one is the coin. Step two is the announcement.

Tim Dillon 1:07:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:18 Step three is the campaign. Step four is her running the country, which I don't think is super important, but the first three are important. Coin launch, hugely important. Here's what I think.

Tim Dillon 1:07:27 You gotta get in in the first couple of days-

Joe Rogan 1:07:28 MTG has come out-

Tim Dillon 1:07:29 ... and, and get out within the first couple of days.

Joe Rogan 1:07:30 MTG, whether, whether it's her or not, she's surprisingly, weirdly capable. She's kind of a tough bitch. She's, she ran a construction company, all this stuff. She's gonna be able to go out there and say, "America first," not, "Israel first," and Vance might wear ... He, there's, there's not enough daylight between him and Trump on Israel.

Tim Dillon 1:07:55 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:07:56 MTG is gonna take advantage of that. That's my guess. Get on the-... trained.

Tim Dillon 1:08:02 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:08:02 But maybe I'm wrong, but am I?

Tim Dillon 1:08:05 Has she voiced any...

Joe Rogan 1:08:10 She hasn't voiced it yet, but let's be honest. She's positioning herself. You can see it. She's positioning herself to run for President of the United States.

Tim Dillon 1:08:20 What is the wackiest shit that she's ever said?

Joe Rogan 1:08:22 I don't know. Something about the Jews and the weather, but let's be honest.

Tim Dillon 1:08:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:08:25 Who knows what they're doing?

Narrator 1:08:31 (laughs) .

Tim Dillon 1:08:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:08:32 These hurricanes come and go? What's going on?

Tim Dillon 1:08:35 MTG threatens to say every damn name on the House floor over Jeffrey Epstein clients two hours ago.

Joe Rogan 1:08:41 This is fun. She get-

Tim Dillon 1:08:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:43 Part of being the president now is spectacle. She gets it. She sees Trump, she goes, "He put on a goddamn show." She's putting on a fucking show-and-a-half.

Tim Dillon 1:08:50 Also, if you're a woman-

Joe Rogan 1:08:51 Yes.

Tim Dillon 1:08:52 ... there's an advantage that you have in that you are not fucking underage people.

Joe Rogan 1:08:56 No. And she's single.

Tim Dillon 1:08:58 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:08:59 She's single woman.

Tim Dillon 1:09:00 Ooh. That's wild.

Joe Rogan 1:09:01 She's not... Meaning that you, she's not... She doesn't have a husband who works for BlackRock.

Tim Dillon 1:09:05 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:09:06 You know what I mean?

Tim Dillon 1:09:07 She's a Lenny Kravitz song.

Joe Rogan 1:09:08 Now, why is AOC shutting her mouth about Israel? Because AOC's donors are big Israeli tech people.

Tim Dillon 1:09:15 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:09:15 She's been silenced, and she's trying to run for president too.

Tim Dillon 1:09:19 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:09:20 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:09:22 She'll struggle.

Joe Rogan 1:09:23 She's not gonna win. She's a goofball. She'd be making mojitos.

Tim Dillon 1:09:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:09:27 She's a goofball.

Tim Dillon 1:09:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:09:28 She doesn't have it. She's a goof. But here's the reality. She's shutting her mouth about Israel. Is AOC out there about Israel? No. No, because she's a fraud. But the smelly, uh, gross anarcho-communists in Brooklyn, to their credit, know she's a fraud.

Tim Dillon 1:09:49 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:09:49 They know she's a fraud. In between their, you know, whatever, open mic nights and whatever, they've figured out-

Tim Dillon 1:09:56 Poetry slams.

Joe Rogan 1:09:57 ... poetry slams and dog walking. They figured out that this bitch is a fraud, big time.

Tim Dillon 1:10:03 Yeah. I don't think she was when she first started.

Joe Rogan 1:10:05 She wasn't, but she got... She was probably... She's realized she has... She's ambitious.

Tim Dillon 1:10:11 She likes nice bags.

Joe Rogan 1:10:12 She likes nice bags.

Tim Dillon 1:10:13 That's what it is.

Joe Rogan 1:10:14 She's ambitious. She wants to be the president.

Tim Dillon 1:10:15 You realize that job can get you hundreds of millions of dollars. Look what happened to-

Joe Rogan 1:10:19 Can you get up who her donors are, Jimmy? These, these Israeli tech people? It's kind of interesting because this actually just kinda came out.

Tim Dillon 1:10:26 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:10:27 You know, this, this, this, this is coming out more and more. MTG is one of these people that have... Now, she said some wild stuff. She wasn't media-trained, okay? She came out. She made some, um, unfortunate statements about, um, Jewish people and the weather perhaps, you know?

Tim Dillon 1:10:47 Did she d- I wanna know what she says.

Joe Rogan 1:10:48 She said something-

Tim Dillon 1:10:49 Says.

Joe Rogan 1:10:49 ... about Jewish space lasers.

Narrator 1:10:50 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 1:10:52 But Joe, why do the hurricanes always hit the West Coast of Florida? That's where all... They're never hit the East Coast. They don't, they don't hit Boca. Well, the water, the water is warmer or something.

Joe Rogan 1:11:01 So say you.

Tim Dillon 1:11:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:11:02 The point is...

Tim Dillon 1:11:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:11:04 Whatever. But is it... Or the laser. Now-

Tim Dillon 1:11:06 The hurricanes never hit the East Coast? Is that true?

Joe Rogan 1:11:09 Yes, they hit the West Coast, which is where all the Christians live from the Midwest and Canada. All the Jewish people on the East Coast don't get hurricanes. They get a little bit of flooding. And when Marjorie wins, we're, we're gonna get to the bottom of it.

Tim Dillon 1:11:21 So, if you wanna buy property, you buy it on the East Coast of Florida?

Joe Rogan 1:11:24 That's what they're saying.

Tim Dillon 1:11:25 Is that like Mar-a-Lago? Is that the East Coast?

Joe Rogan 1:11:28 Correct. Ding, ding.

Tim Dillon 1:11:30 Really? Okay, what does she say? "Marjorie Taylor Greene has offered an amendment to the Israel Funding Bill to create space lasers." This is not a parody. (laughs) "MTG literally wants to appropriate money for a Jewish space laser." But what does that mean? She wants to fund space lasers?

Joe Rogan 1:11:51 I thought she was against them, but now maybe she's for them.

Tim Dillon 1:11:53 In 2018, it was back then.

Joe Rogan 1:11:56 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:11:56 It was different times.

Joe Rogan 1:11:57 It's different times.

Tim Dillon 1:11:57 She wanted the space laser.

Joe Rogan 1:11:59 She was asking questions.

Tim Dillon 1:11:59 2024, it says it.

Joe Rogan 1:12:01 Now she wants the laser.

Tim Dillon 1:12:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:12:04 Because sh-

Tim Dillon 1:12:04 Look at her face.

Joe Rogan 1:12:05 Why should they... Right. Why should-

Tim Dillon 1:12:06 Oh, Joy Reid's talking about it, which makes it real.

Joe Rogan 1:12:08 Why should they have space lasers? We should all have them.

Tim Dillon 1:12:10 Joy Reid probably believes space lasers are racist.

Joe Rogan 1:12:13 That's right.

Tim Dillon 1:12:14 Um, "A 2018 post she made theorizing," in quotes, "that 'Jewish space lasers started wildfires in California.'" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:12:24 (laughs)

Narrator 1:12:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:12:24 Now she says, "The United States deserves this type of defense for our southern border." Okay, I don't think Jewish space lasers did that, but there was a real concern with the wildfires of Ontario. Yes.

Tim Dillon 1:12:38 That so many of them started simultaneously over a large distance that it is almost impossible that this was not some sort of a concerted effort to start this fire. And then there was the question, were they experimenting with some sort of space or satellite-based-

Joe Rogan 1:12:57 That got away from them.

Tim Dillon 1:12:58 ... energy weapon?

Joe Rogan 1:12:59 Well, what about these floods-

Tim Dillon 1:13:00 I don't even know if it got away from them because it's conveniently-

Joe Rogan 1:13:02 You know, these floods in-

Tim Dillon 1:13:02 ... in the middle of the woods.

Joe Rogan 1:13:03 What about these floods in Texas?

Tim Dillon 1:13:05 What about them?

Joe Rogan 1:13:05 With the cloud seeding.

Tim Dillon 1:13:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:13:07 This is a problem.

Tim Dillon 1:13:08 Well, they were cloud seeding-

Joe Rogan 1:13:11 They're cloud seeding.

Tim Dillon 1:13:11 ... just a few days before that.

Joe Rogan 1:13:13 That's a problem.

Tim Dillon 1:13:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:13:14 That's a problem.

Tim Dillon 1:13:15 Well, that's also the problem that happened in Abu Dhabi, or no, Dubai.

Joe Rogan 1:13:18 That's right.

Tim Dillon 1:13:19 In Dubai, which where they openly admit that this is a cloud s-

Joe Rogan 1:13:21 They're manipulating the weather.

Tim Dillon 1:13:23 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:13:23 All these people are manipulating the weather.

Tim Dillon 1:13:25 Where you're going, in Abu Dhabi, they do it once a week.

Joe Rogan 1:13:27 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:13:27 Hopefully you'll get there on a rainy day.

Joe Rogan 1:13:29 (clicks tongue) Well, I, well, we'll see. But-

Tim Dillon 1:13:32 They do it every week.

Joe Rogan 1:13:33 They, they manipulate the weather every week?

Tim Dillon 1:13:35 Every week.

Joe Rogan 1:13:36 Well, good.

Tim Dillon 1:13:37 Well, it's how you s- keep everything green, Tim.

Joe Rogan 1:13:39 Listen, I'm... My concern is, like, my own country. And, uh, any country that wants to offer me a large sum of money to go and perform, I will do it.

Tim Dillon 1:13:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:13:50 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 1:13:51 Coming soon to the Congo.

Joe Rogan 1:13:53 Yeah, I, I will absolutely do South Sudan, Darfur, um, Angola, all of it. I'll absolutely do South Sudan.... Tim Dillon live in South Sudan.

Tim Dillon 1:14:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:14:04 Absolutely will do it.

Tim Dillon 1:14:06 Yo.

Joe Rogan 1:14:06 Wouldn't you go to Saudi Arabia?

Tim Dillon 1:14:08 Hmm. I'm busy.

Joe Rogan 1:14:10 Yeah, but, but-

Tim Dillon 1:14:11 So I have to stay here.

Joe Rogan 1:14:12 ... y- you're do-

Tim Dillon 1:14:12 I have a lot to do.

Joe Rogan 1:14:13 You're also doing well enough.

Tim Dillon 1:14:14 Two Israeli startup entrepreneurs played roles in the rise of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Joe Rogan 1:14:20 Hmm.

Tim Dillon 1:14:20 She pulled out of an event commemorating Rabin. Some concluded that AOC doesn't like Israelis, but the two were instrumental in the lawmaker's early career.

Joe Rogan 1:14:29 Oh.

Tim Dillon 1:14:30 That's where it gets weird.

Joe Rogan 1:14:31 Interesting.

Tim Dillon 1:14:31 They find you when you're young.

Joe Rogan 1:14:32 They find you when you're making mojitos.

Tim Dillon 1:14:34 They find you when you're young and promising, like J.D. Vance?

Joe Rogan 1:14:39 Well, that's the thing. J.D.'s gonna have to, if he wants to be the president, he's gonna have to say-

Tim Dillon 1:14:42 ... Peter Thiel-

Joe Rogan 1:14:43 ... "Peter Thiel, I'm not-"

Tim Dillon 1:14:44 ... is the Antichrist.

Joe Rogan 1:14:44 He's gonna have to say, "Peter Thiel is Satan, and here's why that's good."

Tim Dillon 1:14:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:14:51 J.D. has to get out there and go, "Wouldn't you rather know who Satan is and be friends with him and have dinner with him, than have it be like, 'Who's Satan?'"

Tim Dillon 1:14:59 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:14:59 So he's gotta get out there and say, "I happen to be friends with Satan."

Tim Dillon 1:15:03 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:15:03 "And I want that to be de-stig-"

Tim Dillon 1:15:04 He's misunderstood.

Joe Rogan 1:15:06 "I want it to be de-stigmatized."

Tim Dillon 1:15:08 Right. If Satan could go on the Nelk Boys, maybe they could straighten it out.

Joe Rogan 1:15:10 That's right. Peter Thiel on the Nelk Boys, when they go, "What do you think about fast food?" And he goes, "I only, I take one pill every day to survive."

Tim Dillon 1:15:19 (laughs) The-

Joe Rogan 1:15:19 "And it gives me all of my nutrients."

Tim Dillon 1:15:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:15:21 Yeah. I don't think Peter Thiel eats food like a person, I think it's like he has some type of-

Tim Dillon 1:15:26 What?

Joe Rogan 1:15:26 You know.

Tim Dillon 1:15:27 What are you saying?

Joe Rogan 1:15:28 I think a lot of these tech people, like, they don't like food. They're not food people, a lot of these tech people. I went to a few of these tech things in Austin. It's not a, the food's never the thing. They're n- they're not like food people. They're not like, "Ooh, let me eat food." Like WASPs are not either. Like real old school, like WASPy-

Tim Dillon 1:15:45 Didn't you get invited to have lunch or something, dinner with Peter?

Joe Rogan 1:15:49 Yeah, so I said no.

Tim Dillon 1:15:50 Did you?

Joe Rogan 1:15:51 I said no.

Tim Dillon 1:15:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:15:52 I'm a little, I'm a little wary of that circle of people.

Tim Dillon 1:15:56 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:15:56 And I'm not saying there's anything inherently evil about them, because obviously there's people in there... I, I just, I don't know that I wanna go to a dinner with someone who's gonna talk endlessly about the Antichrist.

Tim Dillon 1:16:09 But yet you'll go to Saudi Arabia-

Joe Rogan 1:16:11 Of course.

Tim Dillon 1:16:11 ... and perform.

Joe Rogan 1:16:12 Of course.

Tim Dillon 1:16:12 I've been to Peter's house twice.

Joe Rogan 1:16:14 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:16:14 Uh, I went once with dinner, with, uh, Eric Weinstein, and I forget who else. And then the second time, he brought me in because they were gonna have lunch with Erich von Däniken.

Joe Rogan 1:16:24 Oh, the, the guy, The Chariots of the Gods?

Tim Dillon 1:16:26 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:16:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:16:26 And I was like, "Oh, yeah."

Joe Rogan 1:16:28 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:16:28 "I'm in." And, uh, I know so much about that.

Joe Rogan 1:16:31 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:16:31 So I was asking him all these questions.

Joe Rogan 1:16:33 I'm sure he's a very nice guy, like Peter Thiel-

Tim Dillon 1:16:35 He is a nice guy.

Joe Rogan 1:16:35 People that know him go, "He's a nice guy."

Tim Dillon 1:16:36 I've had him on the podcast.

Joe Rogan 1:16:37 "He's a smart guy."

Tim Dillon 1:16:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:16:38 I don't... Again, I get invited to a lot of dinners and a lot of things, and what I try to do is I try to say to myself, "I need to be able to criticize people and make fun of them."

Tim Dillon 1:16:48 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:16:49 So it, you know, it felt like really weird to go to this guy's house and then shit on him the next day.

Tim Dillon 1:16:53 Do you think that's part of the strategy of inviting you to go to places?

Joe Rogan 1:16:55 Yes.

Tim Dillon 1:16:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:16:56 Most likely.

Tim Dillon 1:16:57 I think so, too. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:16:57 But it doesn't work.

Tim Dillon 1:16:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:16:58 'Cause I can't shut my mouth. I can't shut my mouth. So, I mean, I, I've said things, people in my own family get mad at me 'cause I can't shut my mouth.

Tim Dillon 1:17:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:17:06 So it's certainly not gonna work if you're a billionaire invites me somewhere, it's not gonna work, so then you're probably gonna have to kill me, and I'd rather you not.

Tim Dillon 1:17:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:17:15 Please.

Tim Dillon 1:17:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:17:17 That's the thing.

Tim Dillon 1:17:19 I see what you're saying, like, you just, you, you can't get too close.

Joe Rogan 1:17:22 I don't wanna get super close-

Tim Dillon 1:17:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:17:23 ... only because like, to me it's like, I like my show because I can talk shit and say things.

Tim Dillon 1:17:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:17:28 And I just can't, I don't wanna censor myself and I don't know how to censor myself, and I wouldn't be fun or good-

Tim Dillon 1:17:33 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:17:34 ... at what I'd do if I censored myself. And I think that like, you know, the, n- a lot of people out there in the world are under the impression that they can... Everyone has an agenda, and that's completely understandable. And I think what they try to do is sometimes launder that agenda through some cultural space, however they wanna do it, you know?

Tim Dillon 1:18:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:18:06 And that's happened forever. It's not new, it's not unique because there's an internet 1,000%. There's people that want the world to look a certain way, but they don't come out and tell you exactly how they want it to look.

Tim Dillon 1:18:20 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:18:20 They figure out a way to kind of like, "Let's filter this." So I, I, I, I'm trying to, I, when I, when I look at that and I go... 'Cause I think it was a very nice dinner and I think what he wants, like, I'm sure it was like a lovely, like he goes, "I wanna talk about the media." And you're like a comedian but you're in the media and like, you know, he has a bunch of people to his house, there's probably smart people that go.

Tim Dillon 1:18:41 Yeah, he likes to have these-

Joe Rogan 1:18:42 And they talk about the media.

Tim Dillon 1:18:43 ... big thought, like-

Joe Rogan 1:18:44 Right.

Tim Dillon 1:18:45 ... think tank conversations.

Joe Rogan 1:18:46 Yeah. And, and I just felt like I, that, that didn't appeal to me.

Tim Dillon 1:18:51 Well,