Joe Rogan Experience #2375 - Tim Dillon

1. 0:01 – 0:42

   Studio banter: novelty mug gifts and “storage for drugs” jokes

   1. NANarrator0:01

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) We're good now?

   3. TDTim Dillon0:13

      Yeah. Um, but yeah, he... This is Turkey Murky sent us these and some zombie ones and-

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Sick.

   5. TDTim Dillon0:19

      ... tech-... Not the best to drink out of, though.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      You can't drink out of it.

   7. TDTim Dillon0:22

      'Cause it's, like, curved at the top, so you spill all over yourself.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      Yeah.

   9. TDTim Dillon0:25

      But who cares?

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       You gotta put something in it and then just have it.

   11. TDTim Dillon0:30

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       You know?

   13. TDTim Dillon0:30

       Like pens or something?

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Yeah. Drugs.

   15. TDTim Dillon0:33

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       (laughs)

   17. TDTim Dillon0:34

       Yeah. It would be good for drugs. Look at-

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Oh.

   19. TDTim Dillon0:36

       ... look at that face.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       It'd be great.

   21. TDTim Dillon0:37

       If you had some drugs laying around-

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       That would be the-

   23. TDTim Dillon0:38

       ... that's where you'd put them.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       ... that's the spot.

   25. TDTim Dillon0:40

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       (laughs)

2. 0:42 – 2:55

   Trump drone-strike clip, Venezuela, and cartel politics spillover

   1. TDTim Dillon0:42

      So, we were talking about the video, uh, that Trump posted, this video, of, uh, them drone bombing some narco guys in the middle of the ocean.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:50

      In Venez-... Venezuelan drug traffickers?

   3. TDTim Dillon0:53

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:53

      Right?

   5. TDTim Dillon0:53

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:54

      I think that's what it was.

   7. TDTim Dillon0:55

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:56

      Venezuelan-

   9. TDTim Dillon0:56

      Trendy-agua.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       ... trendy-agua.

   11. TDTim Dillon0:59

       However you say it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       They're... It's a real thing.

   13. TDTim Dillon1:01

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       They're a real thing.

   15. TDTim Dillon1:02

       Oh, yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Yeah.

   17. TDTim Dillon1:03

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       You know?

   19. TDTim Dillon1:04

       He's accusing the president of Venezuela of being i- involved, right?

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       That could lead to an interesting place, you know? I mean-

   21. TDTim Dillon1:14

       What-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       ... it could lead to a... I imagine we're doing that because we're trying to suggest that it would be better if he wasn't the president?

   23. TDTim Dillon1:21

       Probably something-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       (laughs)

   25. TDTim Dillon1:22

       ... along those lines. Wait, are... I mean, isn't there, like, a bounty on him?

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       Uh, I believe there is.

   27. TDTim Dillon1:27

       Yeah (laughs) .

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:30

       (laughs)

   29. TDTim Dillon1:30

       I think it's, like, open and public. There's like-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:32

       I-
3. 2:55 – 3:57

   Fentanyl escalation: adulterated drugs, China supply chains, and “warfare” framing

   1. TDTim Dillon2:55

      Well, probably a lot of fentanyl-

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:56

      Lotta wasted drugs.

   3. TDTim Dillon2:57

      ... in that. Probably bad drugs.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:58

      Well, this is a b- big problem is that the drugs now are worse than they've ever been.

   5. TDTim Dillon3:03

      Oh, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:04

      I mean, all drugs are bad, but the drugs now seem to be unbelievably bad.

   7. TDTim Dillon3:09

      Well, it's the fentanyl.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:10

      Yeah.

   9. TDTim Dillon3:10

      Um, uh, Ed was explaining that too.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       Yeah.

   11. TDTim Dillon3:13

       He's like, "The soil that they grow the poppies on to make heroin is so bad, it's so taxed out, that the heroin was very weak, and they couldn't sell it. So, they had to add fentanyl to the heroin to make it stronger."

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:24

       And they spice it up. They cut it with fentanyl.

   13. TDTim Dillon3:26

       Exactly. That's how it started.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:28

       And fentanyl is what is killing everybody that's doing cocaine-

   15. TDTim Dillon3:31

       Uh-huh.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       ... and it's laced with fentanyl, and then they drop.

   17. TDTim Dillon3:34

       Mm-hmm. Yeah, and-

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:36

       It's terrible.

   19. TDTim Dillon3:36

       And it all comes from China.

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:38

       Yeah.

   21. TDTim Dillon3:38

       All the fentanyl.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:39

       Well, yeah. I mean, there's-

   23. TDTim Dillon3:40

       All the precursors, everything.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       It is kind of a way... If you are a foreign country, it is a way to... It is some type of warfare.

   25. TDTim Dillon3:50

       Oh, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:50

       You know?

   27. TDTim Dillon3:50

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:51

       For sure.

   29. TDTim Dillon3:52

       Yeah. There's, there's a bunch of different things that they're doing, for sure, to try to destabilize the United States.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:57

       Yeah.

4. 3:57 – 5:34

   Bots, AI persuasion, and ‘don’t argue online’: Grok vs ChatGPT as culture signals

   1. TDTim Dillon3:57

      And, uh, that... Which includes social media, which is why I tell people-

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:01

      Yeah.

   3. TDTim Dillon4:01

      ... do not argue with people on social media because I bet most of those people aren't even real.

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:04

      Yeah.

   5. TDTim Dillon4:05

      Mo-... There's a giant amount of people that are on social media that are there just to keep arguments going.

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:12

      Absolutely.

   7. TDTim Dillon4:13

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:13

      Lots of bots.

   9. TDTim Dillon4:14

      Lots of bots.

   10. JRJoe Rogan4:15

       Sure.

   11. TDTim Dillon4:16

       And this was something that came up yesterday, where y-... Um, they were using ChatGPT. So, they have sort of a program that runs ChatGPT so it ac- acts like real humans. And it was attacking people about USAID and, and, and-

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:31

       Really?

   13. TDTim Dillon4:32

       ... trans issues-

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:33

       Right.

   15. TDTim Dillon4:33

       ... all sorts of different stuff.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:35

       Is that Grok?

   17. TDTim Dillon4:37

       No. Grok is the AI from X. So, that's the Twitter AI.

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:41

       Right.

   19. TDTim Dillon4:41

       So, ChatGPT is OpenAI.

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:43

       Chat's the big... That's the based AI. Grok.

   21. TDTim Dillon4:46

       Sort of.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:47

       Grok is kinda the one who's based.

   23. TDTim Dillon4:49

       It got, it got removed for a little bit-

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:51

       Well, that's how you know it's-

   25. TDTim Dillon4:52

       ... because he said that Israel was con- co- committing genocide.

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:54

       The... What I like about Grok is that occasionally it's removed.

   27. TDTim Dillon4:57

       Yeah (laughs) .

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:59

       That's how I know Grok's onto something, because it's occasionally put in timeout-

   29. TDTim Dillon5:03

       Yeah (laughs) .

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       ... and then it comes back. Any AI that's not removed, I don't trust. I need an AI that's getting removed pretty frequently when it runs up against an issue.
5. 5:34 – 7:09

   Europe’s political tension: Germany’s AFD candidate deaths and UK speech policing

   1. TDTim Dillon5:34

      Do you see the, uh, the German right-wing party, uh, seven members have died leading up to the election over the last couple days?

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:42

      And this is the AD-

   3. TDTim Dillon5:44

      AFD.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:45

      ... AFD or something?

   5. TDTim Dillon5:46

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:46

      I, I, I saw that. That seems a bit spooky that that's going on.

   7. TDTim Dillon5:52

      A little suspicious.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:53

      Yeah.

   9. TDTim Dillon5:53

      A little suspicious. Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:54

       That's very interesting.

   11. TDTim Dillon5:55

       Yeah, it is.

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:55

       How did they all die?

   13. TDTim Dillon5:56

       "Germany's far-right AFD suffers series of candidate deaths ahead of local votes."Well, I would imagine they were assassinated, Tim.

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:02

       Right.

   15. TDTim Dillon6:03

       (clears throat) No evidence of foul play. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:06

       Thank God. Thank God, I was worried.

   17. TDTim Dillon6:09

       (laughs) What are the odds that that many people- (laughs) ... that are a part of something die that quickly?

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:12

       Yeah.

   19. TDTim Dillon6:13

       Uh, they said it was six, but today it's seven. Number of deaths has nevertheless raised questions on social media. That said, like, if they really are far right extremists-

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:23

       Maybe they're out there doing fentanyl. Maybe they're wacky people.

   21. TDTim Dillon6:26

       Maybe they're doing, maybe they're doing something. Seven seems like a really inconvenient number of people to die before an election. Yeah. That seems to be-

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:36

       Yes.

   23. TDTim Dillon6:36

       ... quite suspect. Right up there with the Mexican assassinations. Yeah. Well, this is... Europe right now has become, you know, we had our election, so then the UK right now is kind of the most interesting place to watch, because of everything that's taking place. And Germany is not far behind. But like, this is where a lot of the tumult in the world is coming to a head, in like Europe, the UK. Mm-hmm. Things with migration, things with speech-

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:09

       Mm-hmm.

6. 7:09 – 9:59

   Graham Linehan arrest: tweets, trans politics, and criminalizing speech

   1. TDTim Dillon7:09

      ... that we talked about. Yeah, the Graham Linehan stuff.

   2. JRJoe Rogan7:12

      Crazy.

   3. TDTim Dillon7:13

      He, he left this podcast, and I was telling him, "Why are you gonna go back?" Like, it s- seems crazy to go back, 'cause he's living in America now.

   4. JRJoe Rogan7:20

      Right.

   5. TDTim Dillon7:20

      I'm like, "Why, why are you gonna go back?" He goes like, "Well, I have to. I have a court case." He's getting sued by some crazy trans person, and, um, goes back and was arrested for three tweets. And what were the... Do we know what the tweets were?

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:34

      Oh yeah.

   7. TDTim Dillon7:34

      I mean, not that- Yeah, one of 'em is a photo-

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:36

      Yeah.

   9. TDTim Dillon7:36

      ... of a trans rally. It says, "A photo that you can smell." That's it. (sighs) I mean, it's like so wild that you would be put in handcuffs for that tweet. The other one- None of them are, obviously, yeah. ... is a photo of, uh, these trans people, where he commented, "Homophobes and, and, uh, misogynists, all of them. Fuck them."

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:56

       Right. Right.

   11. TDTim Dillon7:58

       Imagine.

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:58

       You would think that would put you in the clear. (laughs)

   13. TDTim Dillon8:01

       (laughs) But imagine.

   14. JRJoe Rogan8:03

       Yeah.

   15. TDTim Dillon8:03

       That's one of the posts-

   16. JRJoe Rogan8:05

       Yeah.

   17. TDTim Dillon8:05

       ... that they cited-

   18. JRJoe Rogan8:06

       Right.

   19. TDTim Dillon8:06

       ... as being the reason for, for arresting him.

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:08

       Interesting.

   21. TDTim Dillon8:09

       And then the other one is saying that if, uh, a man, uh, who identifies as a woman enters a women's bathroom, he is committing a, uh... And, uh, we- we should pull it up just so I can get the-

   22. JRJoe Rogan8:20

       Yeah.

   23. TDTim Dillon8:20

       ... so I don't misquote it. Uh, I- I retweeted it, so it's on my Twitter page, if you wanna find it. But, uh, something about that it's a... I forget what, how he described the act, but the- the- the problem was that he said, "You should yell, you should call authorities, yell, and if that doesn't work, punch him in the balls."

   24. JRJoe Rogan8:39

       Right. Fun.

   25. TDTim Dillon8:41

       Yeah. Yeah, fun. So here it is. "If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops, and if all else fails, punch him in the balls."

   26. JRJoe Rogan8:51

       There's something-

   27. TDTim Dillon8:51

       Arrested.

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:52

       ... in this-

   29. TDTim Dillon8:52

       You belong in a locked-up cage-

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:55

       Yeah.
7. 9:59 – 12:47

   Saudi comedy payday and the migration ‘double standard’ argument

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:59

      I will be doing it at the Riyadh Comedy Festival very soon.

   2. TDTim Dillon10:02

      (screams)

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:02

      Get your tickets! Ah!

   4. TDTim Dillon10:03

      Get your tickets! Are you really gonna go there?

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:06

      Of course I am.

   6. TDTim Dillon10:07

      Wow.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:08

      Why would I not?

   8. TDTim Dillon10:10

      Uh... (groans)

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:12

      Where they kill gay people and women.

   10. TDTim Dillon10:13

       Yeah. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:13

       By the way, we've said that about... We say this about every Muslim... Every Muslim country's throwing gay people off the roof all the time-

   12. TDTim Dillon10:20

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:20

       ... by the way. Okay? Um, I obviously don't agree with Saudi Arabian policies on women and things like that.

   14. TDTim Dillon10:27

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:27

       Is it my business to tell Saudi Arabia how to live? Truly.

   16. TDTim Dillon10:32

       How big was the check?

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:34

       $375,000 for one show.

   18. TDTim Dillon10:36

       Nice.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:36

       That's not bad.

   20. TDTim Dillon10:37

       That's pretty good.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:37

       That's not bad.

   22. TDTim Dillon10:38

       I'll take that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:39

       I'll watch a behanding for that.

   24. TDTim Dillon10:41

       (laughs) Behanding?

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:42

       Yeah.

   26. TDTim Dillon10:42

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:42

       It's called a behanding. What happens is they cut the hand off the thief.

   28. TDTim Dillon10:47

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:48

       Here's the thing.

   30. TDTim Dillon10:48

       Don't steal.
8. 12:47 – 17:12

   Demographics, family policy, and the economics of having kids

   1. TDTim Dillon12:47

      ... like, how many babies they're having versus how many babies the English people... I mean, they're openly talking about it, "We're going to out-breed you."

   2. JRJoe Rogan12:54

      This is why when people talk about this issue, they often use the example of, you know, Western countries not reproducing enough-

   3. TDTim Dillon13:05

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan13:05

      ... not replicating their population, and they go, "Well, there's going to be a crisis because people are not having enough children, so immigration is needed to sustain the population." What they never talk about is why people aren't having enough children, and a lot of it is because economically they feel like they cannot afford to. Culturally, there have been policies that have, you know, focused on things outside of the family. We haven't had a ton of, like, pro-family policies in Western countries.

   5. TDTim Dillon13:42

      There's a little bit of that, but then there's also the issue that a lot of people have careers and they're trying to wait, okay? So-

   6. JRJoe Rogan13:48

      Sure.

   7. TDTim Dillon13:49

      ... if you're a woman-

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:50

      Yeah.

   9. TDTim Dillon13:51

      ... and you're in your 30s and you've decided-

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:54

       Gross.

   11. TDTim Dillon13:54

       ... you want to have a family-

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:56

       (laughs) Just joking.

   13. TDTim Dillon13:56

       ... and, you know, you're 35, 36-

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:58

       Yeah.

   15. TDTim Dillon13:58

       ... as you get older, the ch- the odds of you getting pregnant drop pretty radically.

   16. JRJoe Rogan14:03

       Well, th- but this is part of the... I think part of the problem in Western societies is we've told wo- women that being a mother is som- is not as fulfilling as, as working in a Fortune 500 company.

   17. TDTim Dillon14:18

       Right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan14:19

       And I don't know any women that are mothers that regret it or, or are un- unhappy. I... M- most of the happiest people I know are, are women with children.

   19. TDTim Dillon14:31

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan14:31

       Truly.

   21. TDTim Dillon14:32

       Y- they're very happy if that's what they want, and if they're-

   22. JRJoe Rogan14:36

       Yes.

   23. TDTim Dillon14:36

       ... very miserable if that's not what they want.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:37

       I'm not saying they all should have children, but it... There's a lot of people... I, I... You know, when you meet a young couple with children, I've never met happier people, personally-

   25. TDTim Dillon14:48

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan14:48

       ... than that.

   27. TDTim Dillon14:49

       No, that's true. Um, as long as they're getting along and as long as the, the woman actually wanted to have children.

   28. JRJoe Rogan14:55

       Yes.

   29. TDTim Dillon14:55

       But there's a lot of women that are, like... There was this lady that I knew back in California that was... It was really sad. Uh, she was, like, uh, super career-oriented and, uh, she had a child that was friend with... Friends with my child, and, uh, she was never home. I mean, she, she would get home at, like, 7:30, 8:00 at night.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:15

       Yeah.
9. 17:12 – 19:55

   ‘Who will be your doctor?’: immigration, labor narratives, and AI-safe jobs satire

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:12

      Well, not only that. You know, I was talking to my aunt about immigration, who I like, and she, you know, was, was basically going... I said, "You know, I think you also have to pause legal immigration for a b- a, a minute." And she goes, "Well, then who's gonna be your doctor?" 'Cause she has an Indian doctor.

   2. TDTim Dillon17:29

      Oh, boy.

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:30

      And I said, "Well, wait a minute."

   4. TDTim Dillon17:31

      That's hilarious.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:32

      I said, "Hold on-"

   6. TDTim Dillon17:32

      That's hilarious.

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:33

      I s- That's what she said. She goes, "Well, who's gonna be your doctor?" She's a Boomer aunt sitting at my house in Southampton-

   8. TDTim Dillon17:38

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:39

      ... you know, going, "Well, who's gonna be your doctor?" And I go, "Why are we not training American children to be doctors in America?"

   10. TDTim Dillon17:49

       What'd she say to that?

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:50

       She goes, "Well, no one does their homework. I was a teacher for 30 years-

   12. TDTim Dillon17:54

       Oh, God.

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:54

       ... and I know that no one does their homework." And I go, "Do you think it's possible that nobody does their homework 'cause we need two incomes to run a house, and kids are left to play video games by themselves, and they're not being parented?" You know? So, I think this idea of, like, we're, we're importing doctors-

   14. TDTim Dillon18:12

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan18:14

       ... you know what I mean?

   16. TDTim Dillon18:15

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:15

       'Cause this whole idea is like, "Oh, these are jobs Americans won't do." And then they're like, "Well, it's agriculture and stuff." And it's like, okay, you can understand some of that. But then you're like, "Wait a minute. Are you saying Americans don't wanna be doctors?" That's crazy. They don't wanna work in hotels or restaurants. Then you start going, "Well, what jobs can Americans do?" I mean, Marc Andreessen came out, and I don't know if you, you had, have the quote, Jamie. But, like, Marc Andreessen literally was talking about... And I don't have a problem with Marc Andreessen, per se. I think this statement was silly. He said, "Oh, yeah, after AI takes over, like, one of the only jobs that's gonna be okay," I swear to God he said this, "is venture capital." He goes, "That'll be okay, because we'll still need to make judgments about what's a worthy investment strategy."

   18. TDTim Dillon19:01

       How convenient that his-

   19. JRJoe Rogan19:03

       Well, yeah.

   20. TDTim Dillon19:04

       ... job will be saved.

   21. JRJoe Rogan19:04

       Well, this is the whole thing, right. Yeah, right there. Marc Andreessen says, "One job is mostly safe from AI, uh, venture capitalist." It's just funny to me that-

   22. TDTim Dillon19:15

       That's hilarious.

   23. JRJoe Rogan19:16

       ... that this is the direction. If, if immigrants were taking the jobs of Hollywood screenwriters, they would not be celebrating it. If immigrants were taking the job of people at white shoe law firms, they would not be celebrating it. If they were taking the job of investment bankers, they would not be celebrating it.

   24. TDTim Dillon19:36

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan19:37

       It's very obvious.

   26. TDTim Dillon19:38

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan19:39

       It's not anything wrong with the immigrants who come here. Obviously that I would come here too, to take someone's job, because I'd wanna survive.

   28. TDTim Dillon19:46

       It's just a weird argument, like, who's gonna be your doctor? That's a qu- that's a really weird argument.

   29. JRJoe Rogan19:51

       It's-

   30. TDTim Dillon19:51

       And it's kind of-
10. 19:55 – 21:49

    Ad break and quick riff: racism in ‘who cleans your toilet?’ logic

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    2. JRJoe Rogan21:10

       It's a th- it's very racist against whites.

    3. TDTim Dillon21:12

       It is. And it's also weird. You know, it's a weird argument, 'cause it's like all human beings can, uh, of all nationalities and races can do basically every job.

    4. JRJoe Rogan21:21

       That's-

    5. TDTim Dillon21:22

       There's people that do it all over the world.

    6. JRJoe Rogan21:23

       That's-

    7. TDTim Dillon21:23

       The idea that you need to-

    8. JRJoe Rogan21:24

       ... hopefully true.

    9. TDTim Dillon21:25

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan21:25

        But yes, no I'm kidding. Yes.

    11. TDTim Dillon21:26

        The most racist is, like, who's gonna clean your toilet? Like, we've, we've seen that.

    12. JRJoe Rogan21:30

        Well, that was Kelly Osbourne on The View.

    13. TDTim Dillon21:32

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan21:32

        She's all, "Mr. Trump, who's gonna eat your shit?"

    15. TDTim Dillon21:35

        (laughs)

    16. JRJoe Rogan21:36

        "If you don't have immigrants here, who's gonna eat your shit when you shit in a toilet?"

    17. TDTim Dillon21:41

        By the way, is she in the Witness Protection Program? 'Cause she looks like a totally different human being now.

    18. JRJoe Rogan21:44

        I don't know what they did. They popped her on some of the Azamps and they threw her in the shed.

11. 21:49 – 27:20

    Hollywood face swaps: Kelly Osbourne, Kris Jenner, and the ‘new head’ era

    1. TDTim Dillon21:49

       Have you seen, uh, the new alien show that's on the Hulu?

    2. JRJoe Rogan21:52

       No, I haven't.

    3. TDTim Dillon21:53

       It's really good. It's an alien show. But one of the things they do, is they, they take, like, a dying person-

    4. JRJoe Rogan21:58

       Yeah.

    5. TDTim Dillon21:58

       ... and they download their consciousness-

    6. JRJoe Rogan22:00

       Interesting.

    7. TDTim Dillon22:01

       ... into, like, a, a symbiotic organism.

    8. JRJoe Rogan22:03

       And they're, i- is this, oh, is this fake, or is it real? Like, are they a real dying person?

    9. TDTim Dillon22:08

       Well-

    10. JRJoe Rogan22:08

        Oh, it's a fictional thing.

    11. TDTim Dillon22:09

        ... it's a fictional-

    12. JRJoe Rogan22:10

        Okay.

    13. TDTim Dillon22:10

        It's Alien the movie.

    14. JRJoe Rogan22:12

        Gotcha.

    15. TDTim Dillon22:12

        Like Ridley Scott, Alien.

    16. JRJoe Rogan22:13

        Gotcha.

    17. TDTim Dillon22:14

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan22:14

        Okay.

    19. TDTim Dillon22:15

        And I wonder if that happened to her.

    20. JRJoe Rogan22:17

        Well, for sure. I mean-

    21. TDTim Dillon22:19

        'Cause otherwise, like, how does she look, like-

    22. JRJoe Rogan22:21

        That's the problem. You wanna defend Hollywood people sometimes against the QAnon stuff, and then you look at them-

    23. TDTim Dillon22:26

        (laughs)

    24. JRJoe Rogan22:26

        ... and you're like, "Oh, God. Can you make it easier for me to say you're not a clone?"

    25. TDTim Dillon22:30

        (laughs)

    26. JRJoe Rogan22:31

        Because-

    27. TDTim Dillon22:32

        I mean, these young girls are 23 years old and they have so much plastic surgery, they look like they're 47.

    28. JRJoe Rogan22:37

        It's nuts. It's crazy.

    29. TDTim Dillon22:38

        They have Botox already and they're in their 20s.

    30. JRJoe Rogan22:40

        And then all the QAnon people are like, "It's because they're not getting enough of the whatever, you know, adrenochrome." And you're like, "No, that's not it." And then you look at their faces, you go, "Oh, shit."
12. 27:20 – 33:26

    Chasing youth to immortality: transhumanism, billionaire power, WEF surveillance fears

    1. JRJoe Rogan27:20

       Some- thing I worry a little bit about a society where people keep chasing youth.

    2. TDTim Dillon27:24

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan27:25

       My grandfather, my grandmother, old people, wrinkles-

    4. TDTim Dillon27:29

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan27:29

       ... wisdom. You know, my grandmother was not running around trying to look like her daughter.

    6. TDTim Dillon27:35

       Right.

    7. JRJoe Rogan27:36

       I worry a little bit about, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with cosmetic surgery, and people should look as good as they want. I worry a little bit spiritually, slightly, about where this leads.

    8. TDTim Dillon27:46

       That's a good worry.

    9. JRJoe Rogan27:48

       That's all.

    10. TDTim Dillon27:48

        No, that's legitimate, a person-

    11. JRJoe Rogan27:50

        I li- and I li- and I'm saying this as someone who likes her new look.

    12. TDTim Dillon27:53

        Yes.

    13. JRJoe Rogan27:54

        I think she looks good and I would not tell her to not do it.

    14. TDTim Dillon27:57

        Right.

    15. JRJoe Rogan27:58

        I'm just wondering, if someone's 90 and they look 30, I'm a little curious. I guess we're just heading towards everlasting life on Earth?

    16. TDTim Dillon28:08

        Well, it depends on what your focus is.

    17. JRJoe Rogan28:09

        Scares me a little.

    18. TDTim Dillon28:11

        So if you're a person that focuses on expanding your consciousness and you're constantly reading and you're absorbing new... and you just wanna have more energy and be youthful, that's great. But if the whole thing you're chasing is, "I want people to wanna fuck me," (smacks lips) that gets weird.

    19. JRJoe Rogan28:30

        Well, e- well, not only that, but, of course that, but also, to me, there's something strange about the denial of death, the denial of that life is finite in a physical form, and the idea that you are going to live forever, to me, feels there's gotta be some examination of that.

    20. TDTim Dillon28:58

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan28:58

        Part of this feels like that a little bit.

    22. TDTim Dillon29:00

        There's a little bit of that.

    23. JRJoe Rogan29:01

        Some of these people are trying to live forever and I'm wondering about that.

    24. TDTim Dillon29:05

        Well, they certainly want to stay younger for a lot longer than anybody ever has before. And then you get into the weird realm of a lot of these people that want to do something to the body where it becomes immortal. Right?

    25. JRJoe Rogan29:25

        Right. And that, that's very interesting to me. And I, I-

    26. TDTim Dillon29:27

        Transhumanism.

    27. JRJoe Rogan29:28

        Yeah. That to me is a little scary. I don't understand. I'm not smart enough to understand it, and I worry about it from many angles.

    28. TDTim Dillon29:36

        Well-

    29. JRJoe Rogan29:36

        It gets weird when it's really rich people.

    30. TDTim Dillon29:39

        Right. Right, because when it's really young people (clears throat) and you're like, you wanna stay young forever, so you're 23 and you're getting Botox. Oh, you poor kid.
13. 33:26 – 40:40

    Peter Thiel’s ‘Antichrist’ lectures and elite eccentricities

    1. TDTim Dillon33:26

       Yeah.

    2. JRJoe Rogan33:26

       "... deserve neither." Yeah, I mean, it's true. I just think... You know, uh, you know, Peter Thiel is giving a four-part lecture on the Antichrist.

    3. TDTim Dillon33:35

       Yeah, that seems odd.

    4. JRJoe Rogan33:37

       Four part... Well, here's what's really wild to me. Four parts. It's not just one. One lecture on the Antichrist would be insane. This guy's doing a series. He's doing a four-part lecture on the Antichrist, and nobody in his inner orbit went, "Peter, how about one lecture on the Antichrist or no lectures? Not four."

    5. TDTim Dillon34:01

       Well, I don't think he understands the optics.

    6. JRJoe Rogan34:04

       He certainly does not.

    7. TDTim Dillon34:06

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan34:07

       It's- it's- it's odd. Yeah.

    9. TDTim Dillon34:10

       Tickets sold out. (laughs)

    10. JRJoe Rogan34:12

        (laughs) Well, of course.

    11. TDTim Dillon34:13

        Well, it's a private, it's a private lecture at a club in San Francisco about the Antichrist. What does he know about the Antichrist? Is he, like-

    12. JRJoe Rogan34:21

        I'm guessing a lot.

    13. TDTim Dillon34:23

        Th- uh... If- if you told me there was a movie-

    14. JRJoe Rogan34:26

        Yeah.

    15. TDTim Dillon34:27

        ... and there was a guy who played the Antichrist. Zoom in on that image of him.

    16. JRJoe Rogan34:29

        Yeah.

    17. TDTim Dillon34:31

        I would say, "Oh, is that him? Is that the Antichrist?"

    18. JRJoe Rogan34:37

        This is like me doing a four-part lecture on Long Island racism.

    19. TDTim Dillon34:43

        (laughs)

    20. JRJoe Rogan34:44

        (laughs) Just to show everybody, you know, how much I know about it and how scary it is and how we gotta watch out for it, but it's totally not me or anyone I know.

    21. TDTim Dillon34:55

        (laughs)

    22. JRJoe Rogan34:55

        It's no one that's ever been in my backyard, but those others... He's a, he's just kind of, uh, you know, leaning in, I guess.

    23. TDTim Dillon35:04

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    25. TDTim Dillon36:42

        Well, I just don't understand, like, w- why, what... I would like... Someone saw it. Someone saw one of the lectures that he did on the Antichrist.

    26. JRJoe Rogan36:51

        Was it good?

    27. TDTim Dillon36:52

        It might have been Duncan. He said it was boring.

    28. JRJoe Rogan36:54

        It's of course gonna be boring.

    29. TDTim Dillon36:56

        But I don't understand. Like, what is he doing?

    30. JRJoe Rogan36:59

        He's trying to prove he's not the Antichrist.
14. 40:40 – 54:36

    Epstein, kompromat, and political selection: from DC Madam to ‘compromised’ leaders

    1. JRJoe Rogan40:40

       It's not a threat. Now, these big Hollywood types that go, "I'm gonna blow the whistle on whatever the hell's going on." They go, "Bye-bye."

    2. TDTim Dillon40:46

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan40:46

       You know what I mean? Or a mainstream journalist who's like, "I'm gonna write an article about something, and you know, it's gonna lead to a congressional investigation."

    4. TDTim Dillon40:55

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan40:55

       They go, "Bye-bye."

    6. TDTim Dillon40:56

       Yeah. It's when you actually create problems, not when you're just a part of the right-wing conspiracy ecosphere.

    7. JRJoe Rogan41:03

       Yeah, 'cause they can just dismiss you-

    8. TDTim Dillon41:04

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan41:04

       ... as a crank, and then you've written-

    10. TDTim Dillon41:06

        Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan41:06

        ... volumes of this book, and no one cares. Like, and I... And by the way, I'm not saying it's not a great book. I'm saying it's not moving the needle for them. If you have a hard drive, uh, with something on it, a U- USB, if somebody gives you, you know... If you have something that could put them in jail-

    12. TDTim Dillon41:25

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan41:26

        ... you're dead.

    14. TDTim Dillon41:28

        So, how is Anthony Weiner still alive?

    15. JRJoe Rogan41:31

        Anthony Weiner's still alive because... I believe there's two possibilities. Number one, there's a dead man switch somewhere.

    16. TDTim Dillon41:38

        Right.

    17. JRJoe Rogan41:38

        Meaning that there's something somewhere.

    18. TDTim Dillon41:41

        You know the story about his laptop with the cops that saw it?

    19. JRJoe Rogan41:44

        And the c- Supposedly, they're all dead?

    20. TDTim Dillon41:45

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan41:46

        Yeah.

    22. TDTim Dillon41:47

        A bunch of them.

    23. JRJoe Rogan41:48

        Crazy.

    24. TDTim Dillon41:49

        Yeah. How many cops are dead?

    25. NANarrator41:50

        I'm looking.

    26. TDTim Dillon41:51

        Google that. And... But the other thing is that they said what they saw-

    27. JRJoe Rogan41:54

        Yeah.

    28. TDTim Dillon41:54

        ... was so horrific-

    29. JRJoe Rogan41:56

        Then that's... They... Yeah.

    30. TDTim Dillon41:57

        ... and like some of them took their own lives.
15. 54:36 – 1:04:25

    Platform politics and campaign theater: Kamala anecdotes, NGO money, Newsom as ‘internet troll’

    1. TDTim Dillon54:36

       Well, thank God the NELK Boys got to the bottom of everything.

    2. JRJoe Rogan54:39

       They got to the bottom of it and, you know, it was a brilliant... I didn't know how he felt about (laughs) Burger King. I never knew and now I do. Um, well, listen, we have these shows. Everybody has a platform. Everybody wants to be on these shows and everybody has a line of bullshit. We all... We know. It's the way it is.

    3. TDTim Dillon55:02

       Yes.

    4. JRJoe Rogan55:02

       It's the way it is. It's unavoidable. It's not... You can't avoid it. People get mad. "You s- you talked to who?" Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's what it is. You're listening to the thing.... maybe I do a great job, maybe I do a okay job, maybe I do a bad job. I don't know. But you're the person listening. You can choose to like it, dislike it. You can say, "That guy's full of shit." You can say, "I agree with him there, but I don't agree with him there." You could say, "I distrust this person." You could say, "He makes my spidey senses go off." Those are all avail- you can have any of those thoughts. You know?

    5. TDTim Dillon55:38

       And you could also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to that person.

    6. JRJoe Rogan55:40

       You can also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to that person.

    7. TDTim Dillon55:43

       Yeah, when people have that thought with me-

    8. JRJoe Rogan55:44

       And that's fair.

    9. TDTim Dillon55:44

       ... and, or that I don't push back hard enough, or... You're allowed to think all those things. Everybody's allowed to have their own opinions on all this shit.

    10. JRJoe Rogan55:52

        Everyone's allowed. Everyone's allowed.

    11. TDTim Dillon55:53

        Um, but, you know, we're living in the wildest fucking time.

    12. JRJoe Rogan55:57

        This is the wildest time probably that, that I can remember. I'm sure there's other wilder times. Well-

    13. TDTim Dillon56:03

        I think this is globally the wildest time ever, because there's never been a connection like this with everybody and everything.

    14. JRJoe Rogan56:09

        A guy who's perpetuating an ethnic cleansing going on the podcast of, uh, prank video influencers to discuss Burger King is one of the craziest things I've seen in my life.

    15. TDTim Dillon56:23

        You know, and what's al-

    16. JRJoe Rogan56:24

        But that's crazy.

    17. TDTim Dillon56:26

        Also, wasn't there, like, pre-prepared-

    18. JRJoe Rogan56:28

        And it's th-

    19. TDTim Dillon56:28

        ... questions that they had-

    20. JRJoe Rogan56:29

        They were pre-

    21. TDTim Dillon56:30

        ... to stick to?

    22. JRJoe Rogan56:30

        Number one, there were pre-pre-pre-pre-prepared questions. Number two, Burger King does suck. Number three-

    23. TDTim Dillon56:36

        I liked them when I was a kid.

    24. JRJoe Rogan56:38

        They fell off.

    25. TDTim Dillon56:38

        I liked the whole flame broiled.

    26. JRJoe Rogan56:39

        Wendy's fell off. It was all great.

    27. TDTim Dillon56:41

        Wendy's fell off? Since when?

    28. JRJoe Rogan56:42

        Wendy's has fallen off so hard. In the '90s, it was one of the best restaurants in the country.

    29. TDTim Dillon56:45

        But don't they still use fresh not frozen, or is that bullshit now?

    30. JRJoe Rogan56:48

        You know, everybody's full of shit. I don't know. It's not good. It's not the same.
16. 1:04:25 – 1:12:24

    2028 chessboard: Trump succession, JD Vance doubts, MTG spectacle, AOC donor pressures

    1. TDTim Dillon1:04:25

       This is the thing, like, we're, we are now entering into 2026, okay? So, we only have four years betw- from 2024 to 2028. It's really only two years, you know? Because it's like everybody has to get accustomed to these people.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:04:43

       Yeah.

    3. TDTim Dillon1:04:44

       They have to be in the public eye. It's not like someone's gonna run for president within the last six months and they're gonna win.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:04:49

       Right.

    5. TDTim Dillon1:04:49

       Y- you need someone who's out there for minimum of 24 months.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:04:53

       Yes.

    7. TDTim Dillon1:04:54

       So, who else?

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:04:56

       There's g-

    9. TDTim Dillon1:04:56

       We're in 2026, right? So we have two years left.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:04:59

        Trump.

    11. TDTim Dillon1:05:00

        So who?

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:05:00

        Yeah, it's him. It's Gavin. It's him.

    13. TDTim Dillon1:05:02

        It has to be.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:05:03

        Now, on the right, there's going to be a power struggle, and either Trump will live through his term ... Let's hope he does, but he's 80, so you never know, but he's healthy enough right now.

    15. TDTim Dillon1:05:14

        Allegedly healthy enough.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:05:15

        Allegedly healthy enough.

    17. TDTim Dillon1:05:17

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:05:17

        If he lives through his term and he knights somebody, whether it's JD or whoever, that will be the person. There is a world in which he doesn't knight anyone, and there is a real power struggle between different factions of that party.

    19. TDTim Dillon1:05:34

        Well, who, what are the factions?

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:05:36

        You have-

    21. TDTim Dillon1:05:36

        So you have JD-

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:05:37

        You have JD.

    23. TDTim Dillon1:05:38

        ... who's, who's the vice president, who's the obvious.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:05:40

        The obvious.

    25. TDTim Dillon1:05:41

        And then the problem with Ron DeSantis is he wore stilts.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:05:46

        Ron DeSantis is a cop energy. He has a guy that pulled you over energy, and you go, "Was it really 85?" He's a prick. No one likes him. Everyone ... He's offends everyone. I knew a bunch of ... I- I know a friend who's in finance. A bunch of hedge fund guys went down to Florida. This was in, like, the throes of the campaign. He ended up insulting all of them. He's dismissive of people. He doesn't have it.

    27. TDTim Dillon1:06:08

        Hmm. Hmm.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:06:09

        The question is Vance, who's smart, does Vance have it? There's doubts, real doubts that if he has it or not. I like him as a guy. There's doubts. I'm not saying he doesn't have it.

    29. TDTim Dillon1:06:22

        What are the, what are the doubts?

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:06:24

        That he doesn't have it. He doesn't have the charisma. He's stiff as a board. He's a klutz. He dropped a trophy. He's not articulate enough. He doesn't, he doesn't have it. People-
17. 1:12:24 – 1:24:06

    Weather modification and ‘space lasers’: conspiracy-as-parody meets real cloud seeding

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:12:24

       (laughs)

    2. NANarrator1:12:24

       (laughs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:12:24

       Now she says, "The United States deserves this type of defense for our southern border." Okay, I don't think Jewish space lasers did that, but there was a real concern with the wildfires of Ontario. Yes.

    4. TDTim Dillon1:12:38

       That so many of them started simultaneously over a large distance that it is almost impossible that this was not some sort of a concerted effort to start this fire. And then there was the question, were they experimenting with some sort of space or satellite-based-

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:12:57

       That got away from them.

    6. TDTim Dillon1:12:58

       ... energy weapon?

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:12:59

       Well, what about these floods-

    8. TDTim Dillon1:13:00

       I don't even know if it got away from them because it's conveniently-

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:13:02

       You know, these floods in-

    10. TDTim Dillon1:13:02

        ... in the middle of the woods.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:13:03

        What about these floods in Texas?

    12. TDTim Dillon1:13:05

        What about them?

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:13:05

        With the cloud seeding.

    14. TDTim Dillon1:13:06

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:13:07

        This is a problem.

    16. TDTim Dillon1:13:08

        Well, they were cloud seeding-

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:13:11

        They're cloud seeding.

    18. TDTim Dillon1:13:11

        ... just a few days before that.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:13:13

        That's a problem.

    20. TDTim Dillon1:13:14

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:13:14

        That's a problem.

    22. TDTim Dillon1:13:15

        Well, that's also the problem that happened in Abu Dhabi, or no, Dubai.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:13:18

        That's right.

    24. TDTim Dillon1:13:19

        In Dubai, which where they openly admit that this is a cloud s-

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:13:21

        They're manipulating the weather.

    26. TDTim Dillon1:13:23

        Yes.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:13:23

        All these people are manipulating the weather.

    28. TDTim Dillon1:13:25

        Where you're going, in Abu Dhabi, they do it once a week.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:13:27

        Yeah.

    30. TDTim Dillon1:13:27

        Hopefully you'll get there on a rainy day.

Episode duration: 2:40:34