EVERY SPOKEN WORD
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(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- CSCharlie Sheen
(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Great to finally meet you, man.
- CSCharlie Sheen
It's great to meet you. It's a trip and, and, uh, you know, walking in and I'm thinking, "Is there... How is it possible that our paths didn't cross-"
- JRJoe Rogan
I know, it's weird.
- CSCharlie Sheen
"... all those years?" I mean, it's- it's- it's conceivable we were in the same venue, or the same building, or at the same party, or at least-
- JRJoe Rogan
Probably.
- CSCharlie Sheen
... something.
- JRJoe Rogan
I kind of avoided parties. I avoid basically everything. (laughs)
- CSCharlie Sheen
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I avoided parties, I avoided, uh, premiers, any- anything where there was a red carpet. Uh, like even if I was in a movie, I wouldn't go on the red carpet, I'd go in through the back door.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Seriously?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I don't like it.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Wow. Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't like all the, that fucking, "Look over here. Look over here."
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That is just-
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... too fake for me. It just, whatever allergy I have to that flares and I'm like, "I'm going in through the back door. Fuck this."
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah. No, I don't, I don't blame you.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't like it.
- CSCharlie Sheen
I don't blame you. They, they stopped, um, uh, showing me where the back door was.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- CSCharlie Sheen
Because I- I- I support a similar, uh, (laughs) entrance thing. Um-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just too weird.
- CSCharlie Sheen
But it's that, it's, "Look over here. Look over here."
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh.
- CSCharlie Sheen
It's that thing. Something happens in that moment.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- CSCharlie Sheen
And I think it's like, it's, it, it brings you as close to possibly, uh, uh, sterilization-
- 15:00 – 30:00
Oh. …
- JRJoe Rogan
through it sane. I don't know anybody.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Everybody, I mean, I know people that have regained equilibrium and got their footing back-
- CSCharlie Sheen
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and now they're on the right track, and, but no one gets through without a hiccup. It's, everyone kind of goes crazy because you're living in this completely alien world that no one can help you navigate.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Even if you've watched the, the people closest to you-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, your dad.
- CSCharlie Sheen
... go, go through it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- CSCharlie Sheen
... your, most of your life, and, like, just, like, right over there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Like, in the l- in the next room.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right.
- CSCharlie Sheen
You know? Or in the same room.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And a bunch of your friends.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
It doesn't matter.
- CSCharlie Sheen
It doesn't matter.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's still bananas.
- CSCharlie Sheen
It doesn't matter. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's still an alien world that you live in-
- CSCharlie Sheen
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... that no one that you run into during the day except the people like that can understand.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is like, people are always like, "Why do celebrities just hang out with each other?" Well, because th- to them, they're the only people that are normal.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're the only people that, like, I get it, I can't go to the supermarket either. I get it, I g- you know, I get fucking TMZed at the airport as well.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Right, right, right.
- 30:00 – 45:00
Right. …
- NANarrator
you were gonna react or how you already reacted to something that hadn't happened yet.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Right.
- NANarrator
And when people died in the movie, they got sent home.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Hmm.
- NANarrator
So they were just like... The next day, they were just gone. I guess he wanted us to feel that sense of just someone y- gone, that lost, that, that, you know, sadness, you know?
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah.
- NANarrator
And I'm not saying that I, I would know how that felt in the real thing, but we bonded really-
- CSCharlie Sheen
... you know, pretty, pretty, th- uh, de- Uh, yeah, we were bonded in a way that, um, it's because we, we were the only people that we had in the middle of that country, in the middle of that jungle, in the middle of that movie. Um, so you really missed somebody when they were suddenly gone.
- JRJoe Rogan
I would love to ask... I mean, I've had Oliver on a couple of times, but (clears throat) I would have loved to ask him what it's like to make a movie about a war that he was starring in, and like, what kind of b- bizarre mental conflicts.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah. Did, did... He didn't get into any of that stuff with you guys?
- JRJoe Rogan
Not really.
- CSCharlie Sheen
No?
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, he talked a little bit about his experience in Vietnam, but I don't think we really talked about... Did we ever, we talk about m- the making of Platoon?
- NANarrator
Oh my God, man, no.
- JRJoe Rogan
We got so heavy into the JFK assassination-
- CSCharlie Sheen
I don't... I don't got it.
- JRJoe Rogan
... we hardly covered anything else. (coughs) Especially the last time he was on. The last time he was on was when they were doing that Showtime JFK document- It was a Showtime thing, right? Wasn't it? The sh-
- CSCharlie Sheen
I think it was, yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Where there was a multi-part-
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah, I saw it.
- JRJoe Rogan
... piece that he put together.
- CSCharlie Sheen
I saw it. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
His recall is insane. It's insane.
- CSCharlie Sheen
It is. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You have a conversation with him, he's pulling up dates, he's got no bo- I mean, how old is Oliver at this point in time?
- CSCharlie Sheen
Um, upper 70s? I just turned 60, so if he was in-
- JRJoe Rogan
78.
- CSCharlie Sheen
He's 78. Okay, okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's 78 years old, rock solid memory. I mean, rock solid.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Wow.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Yeah, it did. …
- JRJoe Rogan
support for it. We would've rethought what psychedelic drugs can do for you versus, uh, the bad aspects of them. We would've rethought everything. We would've re-... we would've... The music would've been a lot better (laughs) . Music took a big dip.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah, it did.
- JRJoe Rogan
Music took-
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... a big dip after-
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they got rid of the drugs that were good and brought in the coke.
- CSCharlie Sheen
But people do point to the death of the '60s, uh, occurred up at Cielo Drive.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was effective.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, that, that completely demonized any peace, love, and, you know, any of that kind of movement, tho- those people became a real problem now because you're now connected to Manson.
- CSCharlie Sheen
It was instantly zero tolerance.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- CSCharlie Sheen
(laughs) Like, overnight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Kind of nuts.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Kinda nuts that it, it... it was really all engineered by the government. You know, it's really... That in itself, in and of itself, is a, uh, terrible crime that they, they sort of engineered society to their benefit so that they could maintain control. And the way they did it is by getting a, uh, a horrible con who had been in and out of jail his whole life and teaching him how to run a cult (laughs) .
- CSCharlie Sheen
Right, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
A murderous cult (laughs) .
- CSCharlie Sheen
And setting up at a free clinic-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- CSCharlie Sheen
... in the Haight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Where my wife's mom went.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Oh, so you're-
- JRJoe Rogan
My wife's mom was a hippie.
- CSCharlie Sheen
You have a connection to this?
- 1:00:00 – 1:12:26
(laughs) …
- CSCharlie Sheen
game also.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- CSCharlie Sheen
You know? Right? That's, that's how my dad described the OJ case.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- CSCharlie Sheen
He said, "This is like the greatest parlor game ever."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- CSCharlie Sheen
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Boy, I remember watching that verdict on TV live in my apartment with this girl I was dating. She was a really sweet girl, and she couldn't believe that he was innocent.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And she didn't understand it. She was so confused.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah, it didn't line up, did it? Didn't line up.
- JRJoe Rogan
She was, she was like, "No. No. How?"
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
She just kept, she kept like putting her hands over her face, "No. No."
- CSCharlie Sheen
It, it, it completely torqued her, her whole reality.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Yeah. I was on a, on a mountaintop in Mexico doing a, uh, k- kind of a, uh, uh, you know, low-rent sci-fi film called The Arrival.
- JRJoe Rogan
I love that movie.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Oh, okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Don't say that was a low-rent movie.
- CSCharlie Sheen
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I love that movie.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know who turned me onto that movie? Dave Foley. Dave Foley, who's a good friend of mine from, uh, News Radio.
- CSCharlie Sheen
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, when we were on News Radio together, he fucking loved that movie.
- CSCharlie Sheen
(laughs) That's funny.
- JRJoe Rogan
He goes, "This is a so underrated sci-fi movie." I'm like, "Okay, cool."
- CSCharlie Sheen
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I checked it out, and it was great.
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