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Joe Rogan Experience #2382 - Andrew Santino

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Sep 23, 20253h 4mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 1:33

    Santino returns + why modern politics feels like a “popularity contest for nukes”

    1. NA

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

    4. JR

      Hey, Santino, my man.

    5. AS

      Mr. Rogan, it's been a long time, I'm back.

    6. JR

      When was the last time you were here?

    7. AS

      It's gotta be over a year.

    8. JR

      Is that real?

    9. AS

      Two years.

    10. Two years?

    11. Eight years.

    12. JR

      Geez, bro.

    13. AS

      Yeah, it's gotta be.

    14. JR

      Time waits for no one.

    15. AS

      I know, man. You left me high and dry in Los Angeles, and two years later I come back down.

    16. JR

      Had to go, big dog. Had to go, had to go. (laughs)

    17. AS

      (laughs)

    18. JR

      You're gonna go eventually. You can't hang in there.

    19. AS

      Stop.

    20. JR

      Eventually it'll just get to be Mad Max and you'll just go, "I, I can't, I can't, I can't." When Newsom becomes president and Kamala Harris becomes governor and then it's, like, full Communist...

    21. AS

      You don't think he's gonna become president?

    22. JR

      (inhales deeply)

    23. AS

      You do?

    24. JR

      He could win.

    25. AS

      No.

    26. JR

      Yep, he could win.

    27. AS

      Nah.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. AS

      No, 'cause I think he's one of those guys that left-

    30. JR

      She almost won.

  2. 1:33 – 2:42

    NYC politics, Mamdani, and the coming “jobs apocalypse”

    1. JR

      And that's it. Unless some Mamdani guy comes out of left field and says-

    2. AS

      Is that the New York guy?

    3. JR

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    4. AS

      That's so funny.

    5. JR

      He's gonna win.

    6. AS

      That's... (laughs)

    7. JR

      He's gonna win. (laughs)

    8. AS

      (laughs) The Mamdani guy, what was his policy? What did he run on?

    9. JR

      Uh, oh, he ran on everything. Rent control, stabilize rent, uh, he's gonna tax the rich people way more than before. Bu- businesses are gonna run out of that place like it's on fire.

    10. AS

      Crumble, yeah.

    11. JR

      Yeah, it's interesting. But I mean, maybe-

    12. AS

      Cheers to Manhattan. (laughs)

    13. JR

      (sighs) You know, look, the thing is, m- maybe what he wants to do is gonna coincide with AI and automation. Which is gonna be a... You're going to have to have someone who has at least some sort of s- uh, not, not, like, pure socialism, but at the very least universal basic income. Like the-

    14. AS

      Right.

    15. JR

      ... ideas that they wanna implement. 'Cause if you don't, you're gonna have chaos. You're gonna have... All jobs are gonna, uh, essentially, m- most jobs are on the chopping block. It, it's... Right now if you think about it, the amount of jobs that a robot with AI can't do are so little. They're so little.

    16. AS

      Yeah.

  3. 2:42 – 4:46

    AI-generated music goes from novelty to existential threat

    1. JR

      Like, they're making great songs now. Have you heard the 50 Cent song?

    2. AS

      Oh.

    3. JR

      The Many Men song?

    4. AS

      I've heard the band... There's a band that's, that's got, like, four million streams a month on Spotify, and it's all AI.

    5. JR

      Oh, there's a bunch of those.

    6. AS

      It's so trippy.

    7. JR

      There's do- do- does of those. They made this girl who was a, an AI, like a fucking... What, what would you call that kind of music?

    8. AS

      What kind?

    9. JR

      You know that, that gal that they made that was... We, we played a little bit of it on the podcast? She's, like, kinda emo?

    10. AS

      I'm not remembering.

    11. JR

      Uh, (sighs) anyway. They, they, they made her in about a minute, and then they made the song in about another minute, and it was great.

    12. AS

      It's a hit song. (laughs)

    13. JR

      I was listening to it, I was like, "This is a good fucking song." (laughs)

    14. AS

      (laughs) It sucks. It sucks that I like it. I listen to it and be like, "Dude, this is really good."

    15. JR

      Have you... You haven't heard the Many Men version, the AI version of Many Men?

    16. AS

      No.

    17. JR

      Okay. AI did a cover of, uh, 50 Cent's Many Men.

    18. AS

      Love that song.

    19. JR

      Pfft-

    20. AS

      It's such a good song.

    21. JR

      ... wait till you hear the AI version.

    22. AS

      Oh, no.

    23. JR

      The, the AI version they did it with, uh, some kind of, like, 1950s, 1960s, like, soul rendition of it.

    24. AS

      Oh, no.

    25. JR

      Like a soulful blues kind of rendition. Jazz, sorta. Bro...

    26. AS

      And it's still 50, though. It's his voice.

    27. JR

      No.

    28. AS

      No, no, no. Yeah.

    29. JR

      No, no, it's a completely fake human being.

    30. AS

      Oh, this is crippling. I don't like it.

  4. 4:46 – 14:24

    From hearing-aid AirPods to the “new dominant life force” framing of AI

    1. AS

      Yeah, I, I haven't signed up. I've, I'm still... Look, and I know the technology's gonna get even stronger. Your, your guy last night, um, John? What's his, what's the photographer's name? The older guy?

    2. JR

      Joe?

    3. AS

      Joe. Joe.

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. AS

      Uh, he had in the new AirPods, and I was like, "Oh, Joe, keeping up with the times. That's pretty great." He's like, "They're hearing aids now." And I was like-

    6. JR

      Oh, yeah. They do.

    7. AS

      ... "Wait, seriously?" He's like, "Yeah."

    8. JR

      Well, they have these things called... They've had them forever, called Walker's, uh, uh, Game Ears. And you can wear them in the woods and you hear, like, footsteps, like, hundreds of yards away.

    9. AS

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      Yeah, it's crazy. And what the crazy thing is, when a gun goes off, they protect you. So it protects you from loud sounds, but it amplifies regular sounds.

    11. AS

      Well, like, it, it... Something has a frequency that pitches up so you-

    12. JR

      Exactly.

    13. AS

      ... so the gun... Wow.

    14. JR

      So it protects you. At a certain point in time, it becomes noise cancellation, or a certain level of decibels that becomes noise cancellation.

    15. AS

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      Play him a little bit of that 50 Cent song.

    17. AS

      Hit me that.

    18. JR

      You gotta hear some of this, bro.

    19. AS

      Blood in my eye, dog, and I can't see.

    20. JR

      Look at this, they made a video, too.

    21. AS

      I'm trying to be what I'm destined to be.

    22. JR

      Look at this.

    23. AS

      And niggas tryna take my...

    24. NA

      Oh, my god.

    25. JR

      Woo!

    26. NA

      I put a hole in a nickel- (laughs) For fuckin' with me. (laughs) God.

    27. JR

      How good is this?

    28. NA

      This is so good.

    29. JR

      It gets better. Listen to this.

    30. NA

      My back on the wall, now you gonna see.

  5. 14:24 – 16:33

    Encryption collapses, VPN jokes, and the tsunami-speed tech curve

    1. JR

      It's like you gotta figure it out. Like y- all the industries that you think of, like transportation, um, most white collar jobs, lawyers, any coding job-

    2. AS

      Banking.

    3. JR

      ... gone. They're going away. They're going away. And here's a real problem. You have encryption, okay? And encryption is very important for Bitcoin, for cryptocurrency, for passwords, for everything. Once you have quantum computing attached to AI, you no longer have encryption. It doesn't mean anything. Okay, so then where is money, okay? 'Cause money right now is just a bunch of ones and zeros.

    4. AS

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

      And who's to decide who gets what and where it gets stored and how anybody has access to it? In the beginning, it's only gonna be like the government has access to it, 'cause we, they're the only ones with the super computers. But it's gonna be just like Michael Douglas from that movie Wall Street where he had that big stupid phone and everybody's like, "Look at him-

    6. AS

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      ... he's a baller."

    8. AS

      Yeah. (laughs)

    9. JR

      To everybody has a phone now, man.

    10. AS

      Right.

    11. JR

      Everyone on Earth has a goddamn phone. It's r- people in the Amazon have phones and there's a problem because they gave phones to these kids and they all started whacking off.

    12. AS

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      They can't... (laughs)

    14. AS

      Not here in Texas, dude. Can't whack off on your phone here.

    15. JR

      Yeah, you can.

    16. AS

      I saw that. You block porn here.

    17. JR

      They all have VPNs. Everybody has a VPN.

    18. AS

      That's, that's, you gotta go around it.

    19. JR

      Come on.

    20. AS

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      It's a joke. It's one of-

    22. AS

      I love pulling it up. It says that.

    23. JR

      You should have a VPN anyway.

    24. AS

      I have one on my phone.

    25. JR

      Of course you do.

    26. AS

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      And then on top of that, you just, you just whack off from New Mexico. (laughs)

    28. AS

      I say, I always set it to Chicago. Makes me feel-

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. AS

      ... back at home.

  6. 16:33 – 23:40

    Jimmy Kimmel controversy: FCC rules, broadcast censorship, and legacy TV’s decline

    1. JR

      It's gonna be really fucking weird, man. It's gonna be really weird. Speaking of adapting, like this, uh, this whole Jimmy Kimmel situation that is, is happening right now.

    2. AS

      Yeah. Wild.

    3. JR

      Very wild. Okay, first of all, um, the FCC is, uh, you have to have a license to broadcast, which is kind of crazy when you think about what that means now 'cause like what does it mean? It used to mean that you used to have a license to broadcast because you were gonna influence so many people they had to make sure that you were on the up and up, right?

    4. AS

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      So they had to make sure that you didn't swear. So if you had a license and you were on CBS or NBC or ABC, you could not swear, right? That was the rule. And then along came cable.

    6. AS

      Okay.

    7. JR

      And somehow or another, cable-

    8. AS

      Changed the game.

    9. JR

      ... is a different thing, right? Because cable, you just, you, you have to pay for it, I guess, so it's different. And so then some of the channels th- they don't have to pay for it. It used to be the only ones that swore were like HBO-

    10. AS

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      ... where you had to pay for. And then all of a sudden it became kinda any of 'em because they-

    12. AS

      Right.

    13. JR

      ... realized like, "Hey, we don't..." Like FX, we, we can swear, guys. Like we, we only don't swear because we wanna think of ourselves as TV.

    14. AS

      Right.

    15. JR

      But HBO was like, you know, with The Sopranos, with HBO comedy specials in be- in the beginning that was a big one. You could just swear. Movies, you didn't have to bleep anything out. Just wild. And so these, what, what you're dealing with, with e- even the like, first of all, I definitely don't think that the government should be involved ever in dictating what a comedian can or cannot say in a monologue.

    16. AS

      Right.

    17. JR

      That's fucking crazy.

    18. AS

      It's crazy.

    19. JR

      Now, if the com- the problem is the companies, if they're being pressured by the government, so if that's real and if people on the right are like, "Yeah, go get 'em." (sighs) Oh my God, you're crazy. You're crazy for supporting this because this will be used on you. You don't think they, that the fucking globalist lizard people who run the world are sitting here going, "Great, what do we got? Three years? We'll wait this out. We'll wait this out." Yeah, yeah, yeah, let them say the government should be involved in, in censoring people's speech.

    20. AS

      Mm-hmm.

    21. JR

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, let them support that. Let these fucking dumbasses-

    22. AS

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      ... because Jimmy Kimmel's a leftist, let these dumbasses think it's a good idea and we should celebrate that the g-

    24. AS

      Yeah. That's the most toxic shit I keep seeing online-

    25. JR

      Ugh.

    26. AS

      ... where people are like, "Yeah, shut him down." Now, there, this-

    27. JR

      It's crazy.

    28. AS

      ... goes into a lot... Just to jump back, what you said, you just brought me back in my mind. Like, I remember first watching Married With Children, and I remember like, 'cause they were like a racier show-

    29. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    30. AS

      ... for TV.

  7. 23:40 – 29:11

    Bot farms, rage algorithms, and why online culture war turns people cruel

    1. JR

      And it's become this sort of self-fulfilling prophecy on both sides. Like, everyone is in this fucking fever of war, of like a culture war that's k-... it's, it's... and a giant percentage of it is being manipulated by these overseas bots. Like, I tweeted this thing, I retweeted this thing a couple of days ago 'cause I, I was like people need to see this every time it comes across my feed, I'm just gonna send it to them. What you see when you see a bot farm, so there's bot farms that have, uh, essentially an unlimited number of social media profiles and they just go after whatever subject it is, whether it's climate change or an election or even sports, and all they're trying to do is get people to hate each other. And this is, this is a bot farm. And someone wrote, what is this, the...See the caption? It says, "What ..." So this guy, Andrew Fox, wrote this. It says, "Want to know what Dave123456789 10 blah-de-blah-de-blah is? Who y- who it is you're arguing with online most of the time, who's liking those pro-Hamas posts?" And it's that. And it's a TikTok that he put up.

    2. AS

      Now, who's sponsoring, who's funding these bot farms?

    3. JR

      Many, many countries are doing this. China's doing this for sure. Russia's doing this for sure. But Iran is probably doing this for sure. Israel's probably doing this for sure. We're probably doing it as well. We're doing it to them. We're all doing it to each other. That's 100% real. And this is another creepy aspect of AI that was exposed fairly recently. Um, some accounts got suspended because they realized that the CCP was using ChatGPT to run these kind of bot farms. So you have this thing, and you could tell it how to behave. "And I want you to pretend that you are an unhinged leftist that wants to kill all white men and then get in there and argue."

    4. AS

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      And then people ... (laughs) And then the right-wing people are like, "Oh my God. These fucking leftists want us dead."

    6. AS

      Right.

    7. JR

      "Strap up." And then you have, like, this Charlie Kirk incident, and then everybody starts to really believe it now. Like, "Yeah, they want us dead." And then you see the response, and you go, "Oh my God. People are going along with ... Like, people are losing their morals and their ethics, and they're cheering that someone got murdered on television." Because they're all ramped up with this social media bullshit, and a lot of it is being amplified by people that aren't even real people, and a lot of it is just getting everybody in this fucking fever pitch of culture war.

    8. AS

      Right.

    9. JR

      And that's why you're seeing these young kids cheering. Did you see that TMZ clip?

    10. AS

      Uh, well, I've seen a bunch of these different clips of people, like, going off about it.

    11. JR

      Did you see the TMZ thing-

    12. AS

      No.

    13. JR

      ... where they find out that, uh, the, the moment they find out-

    14. AS

      Oh, you hear people cheering in the room.

    15. JR

      You hear people cheering?

    16. AS

      I did see that, yeah.

    17. JR

      The moment they find out Charlie Kirk is dead?

    18. AS

      They're clapping.

    19. JR

      Cheering. Um-

    20. AS

      He's dead, and they're clapping.

    21. JR

      But this is not just one person. There was a guy who was at the scene, at the scene. They got ... I mean, they have ... Look, I just wanna say-

    22. AS

      The guy cheering.

    23. JR

      ... that I'm not pro-doxxing people. I'm not pro any of this, but this is just what's gonna happen. You know, you, you cheer when a guy gets shot, and you can see the guy who got shot.

    24. AS

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      You're in the, you're in the general vicinity of this guy, so a bullet whizzed over your head, shot that guy in the neck, and now you're cheering. Good luck finding a job.

    26. AS

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      Right? And this is the reality that we're living in, right? So, but why is a person reacting like that? People wouldn't have reacted like that 20 years ago, man. It's not, not a normal thing for a 20-year-old kid to do, who's in the audience of some college thing where, you know, "Change my mind," or whatever he says.

    28. AS

      Right.

    29. JR

      Whatever his, his slogan is. But that was what Steven Crowder would say, right? "Change my mind."

    30. AS

      Yeah, I don't know what his was. I think-

  8. 29:11 – 38:17

    Charlie Kirk shooting narrative doubts + the mechanics of long-range shots

    1. JR

      First of all, there was that one guy who was the decoy. All right, so you got this guy who's an older guy who starts yelling out ... Didn't he take his pants down? He took his pants down? This guy, uh, was at 9/11. He was at the Boston bombings.

    2. AS

      All the hits, this guy.

    3. JR

      He, he called in a fake bomb at another place, and then he did this at this thing. Right aft- ... So, somehow or another, this guy has the state of mind that the moment someone gets shot, he yells out and says, "I did it, I did it," and takes his pants down or something like that. I don't know exactly what he did. Then, ready for this? He gets arrested for child porn right away.

    4. AS

      Right after this happens?

    5. JR

      Oh, right away. He's in jail for child porn. Why is that? Well, now you can't interview him.

    6. AS

      Right. He's ... uh, right.

    7. JR

      Right, and when ... 'Cause when the internet people start going, "Hey, how do you ... How are you at all these different things?" Like, what are the odds? Like, has someone ran it through, uh, one of the ChatGPT fucking perplexity things? Like, what are the odds-

    8. AS

      Odds of this?

    9. JR

      ... that this guy-

    10. AS

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      ... would be at all those different events and be involved? Like, zero.

    12. AS

      This is the guy?

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. AS

      I just like that the pants down part is just insane to me.

    15. JR

      (laughs)

    16. AS

      It's like, why is your dick out, dude?

    17. JR

      I'm not saying-

    18. AS

      I did it. I did it.

    19. JR

      Listen, I'm not saying this guy isn't insane. He's clearly insane.

    20. AS

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      And, or not. Or he's professionally insane.

    22. AS

      Right. I, I, I almost-

    23. JR

      That's where it gets squirrelly.

    24. AS

      I almost texted you when the Charlie Kirk thing happened because my ...... my antennas went up about, they showed the photo of that kid. The guy that they have, the 22-year-old-

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. AS

      ... whatever. And I was almost gonna be like, "Dude, that... You think he's got the capability to do that?"

    27. JR

      Yeah. Well, listen, there are people that look like that that have the capability to do that, yes.

    28. AS

      Pretty accurate.

    29. JR

      Nope. Nope.

    30. AS

      No?

  9. 38:17 – 52:16

    Watching a rifle breakdown video: why the official story “doesn’t add up”

    1. JR

      But I don't, I don't buy the assembly, reassembly. I do not buy that. They said he had a screwdriver up there. Fuck yourself-

    2. AS

      A screwdriver?

    3. JR

      Yeah, you need more than a screwdriver. You need multiple tools, okay? You need Allen wrenches-

    4. AS

      He's cranking away.

    5. JR

      You need, like, specific gunsmith tools. It's complicated. Oh, I've got a video. I've got a video of a guy breaking down a Mauser and so this Mauser is the same exact gun that supposedly this dude had in, his grandpa had in World War I. So this guy breaks down this Mauser and... Here it goes. Let me see.

    6. AS

      What's the fastest amount of time you can do that?

    7. JR

      Many seconds. This guy's very good, very good. So this, this guy who's doing it has clearly got military s- experience, or gun experience. I don't, I don't remember, but we'll, we'll see when we watch the video. But this guy knows what the fuck he's doing and i- it would take me a lot longer than it took him.

    8. AS

      And that kid, it would take a forever.

    9. JR

      Unless this kid has secretly been training like John Wick for the past six months. Unless...

    10. AS

      Un- Yeah.

    11. JR

      So watch this guy break this down.

    12. NA

      It takes two different tools to take it apart. It takes a Torx key and an Allen key. (instrumental music plays) Now if I take a shot and immediately disassemble this, I have to remove the bolt, remove the magazine, grab my Allen key, hit the two bolts on the bottom, put those away in the Allen key, grab my Torx key, remove the scope, put everything in the backpack, make sure I have everything, and make my way downtown, okay? Which is gonna take a lot longer for him than it is for me, especially because his fine-tuned motor function, something as simple as grabbing an Allen key to a little bolt is gonna be extremely impaired due to a dump of adrenaline throughout his bloodstream. An extreme elevated heart rate is gonna make these fine-tuned skills extremely difficult. I mean, just for him to think and analyze of what needs to be done to disassemble this rifle and get away would be difficult. And we're not even gonna touch the topic of him assembling the rifle on top of the roof, which if you reassemble a rifle and you take it apart-

    13. JR

      So the people that are listening to this, just listening, he is at 38 seconds right now.

    14. NA

      Right.

    15. JR

      And all he's got, he's got the barrel, um, away from the stock. He's removing the scope from the barrel and he's on- right now he's 47 seconds and he's struggling and he's totally calm.

    16. AS

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      And he didn't just shoot a guy.

    18. AS

      Right.

    19. JR

      And, and then he's supposed to get it in that stupid fucking backpack. It's literally... It makes no sense.

    20. AS

      And the elevator music was a nice touch, by the way.

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. AS

      It was a nice- (laughs)

    23. JR

      So this is, this is just a narrative, right?

    24. AS

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      We watch a guy jump off the roof and then we, we supposedly find this rifle. So if you can have a guy that's in the audience that's yelling, "I shot him, now shoot me. I shot him, now shoot me," and then that guy gets arrested for child porn charges, like he's... Like, what is, what is going on here?

    26. AS

      That's so weird.

    27. JR

      And then you find this rifle and then you say, "Oh, he assembled it and he reassembled it." Like, okay. (clears throat)

    28. AS

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      A l- I, if I was... I wish I was a cop. I'd sit in a room like, "This story is horseshit." Like-

    30. AS

      Yeah.

  10. 52:16 – 58:51

    Civility, social safety nets, generosity, and tipping as a ‘love bomb’

    1. JR

      You can't, you can't let that happen, folks. You can't let that happen. And this is something that I've been saying for a long time. Pretend I didn't say it. Pretend somebody else s- said it if you don't like me.

    2. AS

      (laughs) If you don't like him.

    3. JR

      We, we have to be a community. This is the United States of America. We're supposed to be a country. Like, we can have differences of opinions. Like, when we're in the mothership green room, I, I, my politics are so different than Ron White's, and Ron White's are so different than Brian Simpson's, and Hasan's somewhere in the middle.

    4. AS

      Right.

    5. JR

      His is different, and Tony's, Tony's Tony, he's got his own, like-

    6. AS

      Tony's Tony.

    7. JR

      We're all sitting here having conversations about things, but we're never like, "Hey, fuck you. You fucking fascist." You don't know sh- like, we're not calling people names.

    8. AS

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      We'll disagree on what happens if you g- look, I think you need a social safety net. And there's a lot of people who don't think that. But when I was a kid, my family was on welfare. We were poor. Like, it helps you. It helps people eat, man. Like, this, this is, you're talking literally about people that could go hungry in the United States of America, which is step one to fix.

    10. AS

      Right.

    11. JR

      Like-

    12. AS

      Right.

    13. JR

      We, it doesn't mean that you're gonna divide everybody's money amongst everybody else and it's gonna be co- no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You gotta have some social safety net. You have to have food, you have to have housing, you should have education, all of it should be free. College l- level education. Why the fuck do you go broke getting educated? Do we not want people to make ... If we're gonna subsidize anything in this country, wouldn't we subsidize education? No, we're gonna subsidize corn. We need more corn syrup.

    14. AS

      (laughs)

    15. JR

      We need more people getting fat and stupid. Well, it's crazy that-

    16. AS

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      ... there's pushback against that. It doesn't mean that you think equal outcomes should exist. No. Hard work is real. Discipline is real. It's important. You wanna have a good life? You gotta go after something.

    18. AS

      Right.

    19. JR

      You don't have equality of outcome because you don't have equality of effort. It's that simple. It really is.

    20. AS

      And some people need a little extra help.

    21. JR

      Right.

    22. AS

      I think the m- and the, look, and this is me saying something about you, knowing you as long as I've known you, the, you're, you're someone that's very generous and you've always been very generous and you kind of instilled that in the community. So, a lot of people learn through you that like, hey man, if you get more you should probably wanna give a little bit more.

    23. JR

      You should give more because it feels nice-

    24. AS

      It should be instinctual. Yeah.

    25. JR

      ... and it doesn't feel bad to you at all.

    26. AS

      Right.

    27. JR

      At all.

    28. AS

      And, and it doesn't affect you. You said that one time. I don't know who was saying that you were like, "What do you leave for a tip?" And someone said something, whatever the number was. I'm not gonna call. And then you go, "Why? That's nothing. If you left a little bit more, you wouldn't even know the difference." You said, "Leave that, you won't even know the difference." And they were like, "Well, I don't..." And you're like, "You won't even know it's gone." Because you're doing well, someone else, you can lift up just a little bit more.

    29. JR

      You give them a love bomb.

    30. AS

      Yeah, dude. It's just a-

  11. 58:51 – 1:09:28

    Powering the ‘new god’: nuclear energy, data centers, and quantum computing awe

    1. JR

      It's wild. At the same time, they're making so much AI that they're not even gonna be able to power it. The, the grid's not gonna be able to handle it. If we're gonna really compete in the AI race, we have to substantially improve the power grid and power output.

    2. AS

      How do we do that?

    3. JR

      Pff. (laughs)

    4. AS

      You have to fuckin' know.

    5. JR

      You're asking the wrong guy. (laughs)

    6. AS

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      But I know, uh, Brian Simpson sent me this today. I'll send it to you, Jamie. When I was looking at this I was like, "Jesus Christ, this is one of those things where you're like, every time I start to think, 'Well, what if we take care of all ... ' Oh, this too?"

    8. AS

      Mm.

    9. JR

      "This too?"

    10. AS

      I saw this thing. Japan d- has these kinetic energy sidewalks and it's, uh, because of the foot traffic, and so that kinetic energy transfers into stored energy.

    11. JR

      We're gonna need nuclear, dude.

    12. AS

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      And we're gonna need a lot of it. (laughs)

    14. AS

      (laughs)

    15. JR

      There's, uh ... They're doing a, uh, a Google AI, and this Google AI they are connecting to the construction of three different nuclear power plants. Three.

    16. AS

      Three.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. AS

      Big.

    19. JR

      It's-

    20. AS

      Big, big, big.

    21. JR

      You have to power the new god, Santino.

    22. AS

      Ah.

    23. JR

      You gotta power the new god. The new god-

    24. AS

      Oh, my God.

    25. JR

      ... requires a lot of electricity.

    26. AS

      Yeah. God, he's hungry.

    27. JR

      Look at this.

    28. AS

      He needs energy.

    29. JR

      What ... Now, this may or may not be true, 'cause this is someone ... Wiz of ... What is it? Wiz of Dao? Wi- WizoFi. WizoFi on Instagram.

    30. AS

      Wizo ... No, Wiz of AI.

  12. 1:09:28 – 1:11:39

    From pigeons to mountain lions: survival reality checks and ‘suicidal empathy’

    1. JR

      That's interesting. Well, so you need some kind of a way to get signals across, but, but, guess, guess what, kids? If the power (laughs) goes out, that's your last concern.

    2. AS

      See you later.

    3. JR

      The last concern is how many bullets does Bobby have?

    4. AS

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      Can I borrow some bullets from Bobby? We gotta go shoot squirrels to stay alive.

    6. AS

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      There's no more squirrels. We shot all the squirrels. We have to move to where the animals live, 'cause w-... You think you live around animals, but you live around a relative number of animals for an urban or suburban environment.

    8. AS

      Mm-hmm.

    9. JR

      Once people start shooting the pigeons, they go away real quick.

    10. AS

      Mm-hmm. (sniffs)

    11. JR

      The passenger pigeon used to be one of the most populated birds on this country, and they're extinct now. The passenger pigeons were so numerous that they would fly overhead, they would block out the sky. You wouldn't-

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