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Joe Rogan Experience #2383 - Ian Edwards

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  1. 0:012:12

    Studio catch-up, “fake brick walls,” and comedy-club backdrops

    1. NA

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. IE

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. NA

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music) Joe Rogan: Ta da.

    4. JR

      What's up, son? (laughs) Joe Rogan: (laughs) How is it possible that you haven't been here in the five years I've been h- living here? Oh, shit. It's been five years? Joe Rogan: Yeah, man. It's been five years. That's pretty fucking crazy. Joe Rogan: That's crazy. Yeah. Joe Rogan: That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't. I like it, though. Joe Rogan: Thank you. It's like, uh, shit, it's got the sauna walls and shit. (laughs) Joe Rogan: (laughs) It's very close to what the old one was. Instead of brick, we went with wood, 'cause the- we were kinda faking it with the brick in the old place. It was fake brick? Joe Rogan: It wasn't fake brick. It was real brick, but what they do is they take, like, um, a mesh- Uh-huh. Joe Rogan: ... and then they take real bricks and they slice them thin, and then they put up the cement and they glue the real bricks in place. Oh, okay. Joe Rogan: But it's not really a brick wall. Right. Joe Rogan: It just looks like a brick wall. Uh-huh. Joe Rogan: I feel like a real brick wall should only be the- the only brick wall that you show. Right. Joe Rogan: You sh- y- like, I went to a pool hall the other day, and they had a plastic brick wall, and I got deeply disappointed. (laughs) Yeah. You touched it? Joe Rogan: Like, I touched it. I was like, "Oh, this is a fake brick wall." (laughs) Joe Rogan: "This is bullshit. This is plastic." Yeah. I mean, it's- it's a push to have, like, a f- half-fake brick wall. Joe Rogan: Yeah. But to have, like, a plastic brick wall? Joe Rogan: That's- that you're going too far. Did you just leave the pool hall? Like, "Fuck this place?" Joe Rogan: No. No, I didn't. No? Joe Rogan: No, I'm a junkie. (laughs) Joe Rogan: I stayed. But the- the- the brick used to bother me, that it was fake brick at the other studio. Right. Joe Rogan: I'm like, "We're kinda bullshitting here." Some people have, like, uh, some comedy clubs or somebody fake a comedy spot. Joe Rogan: Oh, yeah. They have the- it's just a sheet. Joe Rogan: Yeah. Uh, uh, like a- it's not a curtain, but... Joe Rogan: A brick sheet? A brick sheet. Joe Rogan: (laughs) They're like, "Bro, just what- what you got back there? Let's just show that." Joe Rogan: (laughs) "Just show whatever's back there." Yeah. Joe Rogan: It's weird how that became the backdrop for a comedy club, a brick wall. Why? Joe Rogan: It's a good question. I don't know when it start- maybe it started with Evening at the Improv. What was Evening at the Improv's backdrop? Was that a brick wall? It might've been that simple. All right. So- Joe Rogan: 'Cause back in the 1980s...

    5. Yeah. Joe Rogan: Was it? Yep. Joe Rogan: Aha. Look at that. That's it.

  2. 2:124:58

    Early comedy years: Manhattan vs. the suburbs and chasing TV validation

    1. JR

      It makes me wonder- Joe Rogan: Bro, was that Ellen? It makes me wonder if that wall is real. Joe Rogan: Bro, that's Ellen. Look at that picture of Ellen. That's crazy. And I know she had hair. Joe Rogan: That's crazy. Chris Rock, Adam Sandler. Joe Rogan: Wow. Wow. When I started, uh, doing comedy, I used to go to The Comic Strip, and they had a brick wall, too. And, uh, to get on stage at The Comic Strip, you had to come the first Friday of every month and try to pick a number. And if you got a number, they had, like, a lotto thing, so it was, like, all these open micers lined up down the street. Joe Rogan: Mm-hmm. And then I- Joe Rogan: This is the dreadlocks Ian's days. This is pre-dreadlocks, right? Joe Rogan: You didn't have dreadlocks? Nah. I might've had, like, twists and shit. (laughs) Joe Rogan: (laughs)

    2. (laughs)

    3. Please don't find none of those photos. Joe Rogan: Bro, how long have I known you? Like, 30 years or some shit. Joe Rogan: Yeah. We've known each other 30 years. That's crazy. Joe Rogan: Wow. We were little babies. Yeah. Joe Rogan: Little babies. D- doing the Boston. Joe Rogan: Yup. Yeah. I- it's crazy when I'm p- like, how... Not how, but we j- we just had no fucking idea. Joe Rogan: Yeah. Like, how all this shit would turn out. Joe Rogan: No idea. Yeah. Joe Rogan: We had no idea even how it all worked. (laughs) Right. Joe Rogan: You know? You're just taking chances on stage, trying to figure out what's funny. Mm-hmm. Joe Rogan: And then trying to get work. Trying to get work on the road. Mm-hmm. I just knew once I had the inclination to do it, the moment I had the inclination to do it, I was like, "Oh, I'm doing this for the rest of my life." Like, that- once that moment hit. So then all bets on everything else was off. Joe Rogan: Mm-hmm. And I just started just doing it. And just doing it locally in Long Island, and then I remember seeing A&E at the Improv and seeing Chappelle on there, and I noticed that all the comics on Long Island that used to, like, be ahead of me and host the shows that I was doing the mics on and headlined all week- (laughs) excuse me. All weekend in Long Island, none of those comics were on TV. So I was like, "I gotta get to Manhattan." Joe Rogan: (laughs) Like, all the comics- Joe Rogan: Yeah. ... that were on TV were in Manhattan, so. Joe Rogan: I felt the exact same way. Mm-hmm. Joe Rogan: Living in Boston, all these guys I knew, they were so funny, but none of them were on TV. Yeah. Joe Rogan: But the thing is, like, I knew that the people that are- were on TV, then they could go anywhere. Mm-hmm. Joe Rogan: Once you're on TV, then you could go to Kansas. Yeah. Joe Rogan: You could go to Miami. You can go anywhere. Mm-hmm. Joe Rogan: But if you weren't on TV, man, y- nobody was gonna come pay to see you. It was a risk. Yeah. Joe Rogan: You know, you're out with your wife. You got a date night. Like, "Should I take a chance on this motherfucker?" (laughs) Joe Rogan: "I don't know. Look at his face, his stupid fucking dreadlocks." Like... (laughs) Whoa, whoa, whoa. (laughs) I was on TV, fam. (laughs)

  3. 4:586:45

    Jamaica to the U.S., SNL/Eddie Murphy, and the running joke about age

    1. JR

      Joe Rogan: (laughs) It's- well, it's weird, though, right? Like, nobody- Yeah. Joe Rogan: ... nobody knew. Nobody... I- I feel like we knew, though. Like, inside. Like, we had some type of blueprint, 'cause we'd seen, like, successful comics. Joe Rogan: Yes. But to go from, like... So, and I came here, moved to America f- when I was 17 from Jamaica, so I- when I started watching TV, I didn't know anybody on TV. Joe Rogan: Oh, wow. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know- Joe Rogan: What was that like? ... anybody on TV. Joe Rogan: So, like, would- do you remember the first shows you saw? Uh, first shows? Well, they have American shows on TV in Jamaica. We had- we had one channel back then. Joe Rogan: Uh-huh. Was it one or... We had one. And then, uh... So when I came here, I watched SNL 'cause Eddie Murphy was on that shit, so that was, uh, a requirement. I was always watching that. Joe Rogan: Now I finally can figure out how old you are. Mm-hmm.

    2. (laughs) Joe Rogan: 'Cause you lying motherfucker.

    3. What? Joe Rogan: You won't tell anybody how old you are. Yeah. (laughs)

    4. (laughs)

    5. I don't lie. Joe Rogan: You're setting- I just don't tell. There's two different things. There's two different things. (laughs)

    6. (laughs)

    7. I might run past the question. Joe Rogan: I tricked you. I tricked you with that Eddie Murphy line. Yeah. But- (laughs) Joe Rogan: He was only on for two seasons. I gotcha. That's hilarious. Yeah, but I was five years old. No, I'm just kidding. (laughs) Joe Rogan: Was- was this... Was, uh, was Eddie Murphy on for two seasons or one season? I think he was on for two seasons if I'm guessing.

    8. IE

      Does it say?

    9. NA

      Oh, more, uh, four?

    10. JR

      Was it really? Oh, you got a little room for error.

    11. IE

      Yeah, I got a little room for error, always.

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. IE

      Always got a little room for error. Come on, man.

    14. JR

      So, that's three years.

    15. IE

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      So, he did the '84... Oh, you did the '81 and '84?

    17. IE

      Yeah, '81-

    18. JR

      Oh, okay.

    19. IE

      ... was season '81.

    20. JR

      Okay.

    21. IE

      '80, '81, '82 and '83.

    22. JR

      So, four seasons. So, he put in his time.

    23. IE

      Mm-hmm.

  4. 6:4510:05

    Cam Patterson, Kill Tony, and recognizing “the ones who have it”

    1. JR

      There's like, uh, you know, saying about Cam Patterson getting on SNL now.

    2. IE

      Right.

    3. JR

      He might be the first guy in a long time-

    4. IE

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

      ... to become a movie star from that.

    6. IE

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      'Cause it kind of went away. Kind of went away. You know, the Mike Myers days and-

    8. IE

      Mm-hmm.

    9. JR

      ... Phil Hartman and-

    10. IE

      Mm-hmm.

    11. JR

      ... and obviously Adam Sandler, and like, everybody became a movie star.

    12. IE

      Right.

    13. JR

      From David Spade. They all became movie stars. But then that kind of stopped, you know.

    14. IE

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      And they kind of did it to themselves with all that woke bullshit.

    16. IE

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Like, they kind of like, they killed comedy movies.

    18. IE

      Or they just picked somebody funny. Like there's people they overlook all the time.

    19. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    20. IE

      That we know are funny.

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. IE

      That could be on that show. So, it's good that they picked Cam.

    23. JR

      Could-

    24. IE

      I'm gonna say some positive derogatory shit about Cam.

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. NA

      (laughs)

    27. IE

      That's number one. Let me just... Fuck Cam, number one.

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. IE

      Fuck Cam. I remember the first time I saw Cam, and I saw Cam, we were at ... What's, what's, what's the, the f- that room on 6 that's-

    30. JR

      The Vulcan?

  5. 10:0512:35

    “Comedy cheat codes”: persona comics, fearlessness, and the hang factor

    1. JR

      You know, 'cause he's kind of a character. He's such a freak.

    2. IE

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      That when he's on stage, kind of anything is funny.

    4. IE

      Yeah, he... Like, like you know what makes me mad? Like, when you say that. I finally just see what Will is. Because it's obvious to see what Katt Williams is.

    5. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    6. IE

      Like, and it's, it's a part of him and it's his voice. And it's like, I call it a comedy cheat-

    7. JR

      Right.

    8. IE

      ... because I don't have it.

    9. JR

      Right, right, right.

    10. IE

      But like-

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. IE

      ... they're gonna talk.

    13. JR

      Yes.

    14. IE

      It's gonna be funny.

    15. JR

      Funny.

    16. IE

      Then if they add some writing to it, then you don't stand a chance.

    17. JR

      Joey Diaz is the ultimate.

    18. IE

      They're gone. Yeah, there you go.

    19. JR

      Joey Diaz is the ultimate version of that.

    20. IE

      Yeah, yeah.

    21. JR

      That motherfucker is funny the moment he grabs the mic.

    22. IE

      Yeah. (growls) He's like, "Come on. Who's God gave him that?"

    23. JR

      Just looking at him.

    24. IE

      "Come on, God. This ain't fair." Yeah.

    25. JR

      Everything about him, everything about him. He's just walking comedy.

    26. IE

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      And he's fearless.

    28. IE

      Yeah, and he's fearless.

    29. JR

      And so he's, he looks like that and he talks like that and he gets on stage, you're like, "Oh, it's over."

    30. IE

      Yeah, it's a wrap.

  6. 12:3523:30

    Bit theft, road “combat comedy,” and brutal honesty among comics

    1. JR

      We were both kind of like in the same thing, and that's such a weird stage, 'cause you kinda ... No one knows what's gonna happen. No one ... Like, there was a lot of dudes that we used to do comedy with back then that I thought were really good.

    2. IE

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      And they just vanished.

    4. IE

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      They vanished. They went out and got regular jobs, and they gave up.

    6. IE

      And that's scary to me.

    7. JR

      Uh-huh.

    8. IE

      Because, uh, I never want that to happen to me.

    9. JR

      Boy, when it does happen, it's never happy.

    10. IE

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      The guys that I know that do that, they always get weirdly bitter.

    12. IE

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      Weirdly bitter, like, sinister.

    14. IE

      Yeah, I-

    15. JR

      Like, they want you to fail. They do not want you to make it.

    16. IE

      Yeah, and I, I, I don't want that to happen to me. I had an incident with ... I don't even know if I should say his name, 'cause I feel bad.

    17. JR

      You don't have to say his name.

    18. IE

      So, he was in all these movies, like big movies. You know, he was never like a major star, but he's in these movies-

    19. JR

      Right.

    20. IE

      ... and TV shows. He was that generation, like a, a- maybe a one and a half generations before us. And he's a regular at the store. And the first time Tommy sent me to do La Jolla, I used to feature, but then Tommy booked me to headline La Jolla, and told ... And I don't know if this guy knew he was supposed to feature, but when he got to the club ... Like, when I ... First of all, I brought a, a, a date. So, you're supposed to get the ... You're staying in the condo, and you're supposed to get the, the, the headliner bedroom.

    21. JR

      (sighs)

    22. IE

      Bleep ) shit was in there, you know? So I had to take the ...

    23. JR

      You said his name.

    24. IE

      Aw, shit.

    25. JR

      You fucked up.

    26. IE

      But I didn't say his last name though.

    27. JR

      I know what it is.

    28. IE

      Bleep it out. Please bleep it out.

    29. JR

      Bling.

    30. IE

      (laughs) Yeah, so that-

  7. 23:3031:19

    Regional jokes vs. universal material: bombing in a stadium and learning fast

    1. IE

      That's how weird comedy is. It's like there's levels to... Like, first you gotta get your first five minutes.

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. IE

      When you get your first five minutes, you're feeling like, "I can kill. I can go from beginning to end and kill." But then now you gotta get 10.

    4. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    5. IE

      And then you're gonna start, like... You're, you're, you're watering down your solid five.

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. IE

      (laughs) You, you know what I mean? You, your water... And you're not hitting that-

    8. JR

      (clears throat)

    9. IE

      ... exhilaration that you worked so hard for in the five.

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. IE

      But then you get to 10. And then by the time you get to 15, you could, like, host somewhere on the road. And then you might go out of your state, two miles out of your state, and realize, "Oh, shit. These jokes were dependent on where I live."

    12. JR

      Yep.

    13. IE

      They, they n- they do not work here.

    14. JR

      Yep.

    15. IE

      I went to... I had all these Jamaican jokes about being Jamaican 'cause there's so many Jamaicans in New York, and I went with some comics to do Temple.... and it was in a big... It might have been where they play basketball. Like, Terry Hodges was on the show, a bunch of strong Black comics. And, uh, my opener was a Jamaican, about... a joke about being Jamaican. My closer... And it killed in New York. Killed in New York. And I did the first joke, and people had been killing before me, then I went on. I did the first joke more quiet than this. (laughs)

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. NA

      (laughs)

    18. IE

      In a stadium full of people.

    19. JR

      Oh, no.

    20. IE

      And then, uh, I start panicking on the inside-

    21. JR

      Ooh.

    22. IE

      ... which definitely showed on the outside.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. IE

      And then I was like, "Let me go for my middle joke." You know? Uh, and last... which is my second strongest joke. That didn't work. I was like, "I got to do 15 minutes." I'm on my closer by (laughs) the third joke.

    25. JR

      Oh, no.

    26. IE

      And that bombed.

    27. JR

      (sucks teeth)

    28. IE

      And it was bad. They... but thank God they booed 'cause I didn't have to struggle. So, they booed.

    29. JR

      (sighs)

    30. IE

      I was the only one that bombed that night.

  8. 31:1942:27

    Risk, flow state, and the ‘passenger ride’—how comics get truly loose

    1. JR

      Like, when I'll say things that I don't believe at all.

    2. IE

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      Just 'cause it's funny. It's like... 'Cause it's a ridiculous thing to say.

    4. IE

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      And to... Also, I wanna get you thinking that I'm saying things that I don't believe at all.

    6. IE

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JR

      Like, this is just for fun.

    8. IE

      Right, right.

    9. JR

      Like, this, the whole thing is supposed to be for fun. This idea that comedy is supposed to be... I mean, it can be anything, right?

    10. IE

      Right.

    11. JR

      It can be this, like, educational experience for taking people on a journey through your life and how you've come to this.

    12. IE

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      To who you are right now. Like, okay, yay.

    14. IE

      Mm-hmm.

    15. JR

      And at the end, you celebrate (claps hands) because you're non-binary or whatever the fuck it is, right?

    16. IE

      Uh-huh.

    17. JR

      Like, or it can just be silly. Let's have fun.

    18. IE

      Right.

    19. JR

      Let's be silly. Let's say some stupid shit that you probably shouldn't say.

    20. IE

      Okay.

    21. JR

      Because it's fun.

    22. IE

      I need to do more of that, to... And I, I hold back from that.

    23. JR

      'Cause you live in LA.

    24. IE

      Nah, it's just...

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. IE

      I think it's just, it's just me, you know what I mean?

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. IE

      Like, I see, like I see you say some stuff, I see other people say some stuff. And I'm like, uh... I'm like, I don't even wonder how I'm not like that. But it's making me think now. Just if I'm to get to this flow state that I wanna get to, to, to the Last Dragon phase, you know what I mean?

    29. JR

      Uh-huh, yeah.

    30. IE

      When you're on stage and the glow is around you.

  9. 42:2747:23

    Recording sets, post-set listening, and building a standup “curriculum” at the club

    1. JR

      Were you recording back then?

    2. IE

      Nah.

    3. JR

      No?

    4. IE

      Nah.

    5. JR

      I got lucky that I, I met this guy, Mike Donovan, who was a big comic in Boston. He was a, a big headliner in Boston, very funny guy.

    6. IE

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JR

      And he recorded all his sets.

    8. IE

      Oh, shit.

    9. JR

      He would bring like a fucking tape player back then, and he would have this-

    10. IE

      Yeah, you didn't have to bring a whole-

    11. JR

      ... fucking thing, he had a press and shit.

    12. IE

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      Um, and he goes, "You never know." He goes, "There, there's, there's one thing you might say that is like the best thing you've ever said-"

    14. IE

      Mm-hmm.

    15. JR

      "... and it comes off the top of your head, and you'll forget it."

    16. IE

      Right.

    17. JR

      And it might be like the best part of a bit.

    18. IE

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      You might have a, like a new, completely new tagline that comes in your head-

    20. IE

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      ... in the moment, and it kills, and it becomes like the main punchline of the bit. Like, you have to record those. If you don't record those, you'll never get those.

    22. IE

      I record all my sets now.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. IE

      ... and then you- I do have those moments when you're like, "I didn't even remember saying that."

    25. JR

      Oh. Yup.

    26. IE

      "This is the best thing I've said in months."

    27. JR

      Yeah, it's hard. N- nobody wants to do that extra, extra work of sitting down and listening to yourself after you've already done standup, like, "Ew."

    28. IE

      Right.

    29. JR

      Yuck.

    30. IE

      I know.

  10. 47:2355:14

    From comedy to fights: backyard brawls, talent scouting, and the brutality of combat sports

    1. JR

      Well, some people are just insane.

    2. IE

      Right.

    3. JR

      You know? It's like, you ever watch street fight videos? Like, why are you fighting? You don't know how to fight at all, this is so crazy.

    4. IE

      Right.

    5. JR

      And they're starting it, and then all of a sudden, they're prat, they're out-

    6. IE

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      ... cold. People are crazy.

    8. IE

      I know, I watched some of those backyard fights.

    9. JR

      Yeah. Oh, I watch a lot of those.

    10. IE

      Yeah, yeah. Like, I forgot the one that I watch, but it's pretty popular. And, uh, they got like a-

    11. JR

      Like a cage, a fence around it?

    12. IE

      ... a, like a little, a fency-

    13. JR

      Yeah, yeah.

    14. IE

      ... fency cage.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. IE

      And they try to make it official.

    17. JR

      Right?

    18. IE

      But I'm like, "I'm watching this more than I watch UFC." (laughs)

    19. JR

      'Cause it's raw.

    20. IE

      There's something about it.

    21. JR

      Right.

    22. IE

      There's something ... What is it about that, that I won't, I won't watch Division 2 soccer. I'll watch Premier League.

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. IE

      You feel me?

    25. JR

      Yes, I do. (laughs)

    26. IE

      (laughs) You-

    27. JR

      That's a good point.

    28. IE

      S- Like, like, do you watch the other professional below UFC league sometimes?

    29. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    30. IE

      You do?

  11. 55:141:15:48

    CTE, friends getting hurt, and old boxing: Tyson, Ali, Quarry, and corner-man lore

    1. JR

      It's real hard when you watch your friends. (clears throat) It's real hard when you watch your friends get beat up.

    2. IE

      Damn. Yeah.

    3. JR

      Real hard.

    4. IE

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      You know? Like, it was real hard me watching, uh, Cormier (clears throat) when Jones beat him up.

    6. IE

      Right.

    7. JR

      That was hard. The Stipe one was hard. (sighs) ... you know, especially the one where Stipe KO'd him-

    8. IE

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      ... against the ca-... It's just hard.

    10. IE

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      Because you know them, you know them as human beings, you know?

    12. IE

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      And you know what that's gonna do to them? It's fucking devastating. It's like, it's like a loss. It's like you lost a family member or you lost a dog.

    14. IE

      Yeah. Man, see it's affecting you right now. Shit, just thinking about it. That's like-

    15. JR

      It's hard, man. I start crying.

    16. IE

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      But like, for me, the hardest one was Schaub (clears throat) , 'cause Schaub-

    18. IE

      Schaub.

    19. JR

      ... Schaub didn't wanna quit. And I was like, "Dude." You... The thing about Brendan that most people don't know is how many concussions he took-

    20. IE

      Damn.

    21. JR

      ... outside of the fights. So you see the fights, but (sniffs) he used to spar with Shane Carwin, man. Shane Carwin was the interim heavyweight champion, the biggest fists ever registered-

    22. IE

      Oh, damn.

    23. JR

      ... in the UFC. He had like five XL fists. Bro, he's so big, it was ridiculous. He w- he looked like a... He looked like, like in The Avengers. Like-

    24. IE

      Mm-hmm.

    25. JR

      ... like, he was... he would be like the Hulk. He doesn't look like a real human.

    26. IE

      Right.

    27. JR

      Like all the other people were there, and then there's Shane Carwin. He was a freak.

    28. IE

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      He's a freak. And, um, Bre- Brendan Schaub and him used to spar all the time, and he would get knocked out all the time.

    30. IE

      That's crazy.

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