Joe Rogan Experience #2389 - Sal Vulcano

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

   4. SVSal Vulcano0:12

      Yep.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      What up? What up? What's up?

   6. SVSal Vulcano0:14

      What's up?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      When was the last time I saw you?

   8. SVSal Vulcano0:15

      It was, I was here promoting my special, uh, man, it was, uh, June of last year.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Damn, time flies.

   10. SVSal Vulcano0:23

       Yeah, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       A fucking whole year, a year plus.

   12. SVSal Vulcano0:25

       I had another child since then, even.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Oh my goodness.

   14. SVSal Vulcano0:27

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       Congratulations.

   16. SVSal Vulcano0:28

       Thank you, dude.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Look at you out there breeding.

   18. SVSal Vulcano0:29

       Right. At this age.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Contributing to the population.

   20. SVSal Vulcano0:32

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       (laughs) How old are you?

   22. SVSal Vulcano0:33

       Um, 40, I'll be 49 in November, so-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Did you do the math? Like, when your kid's 20?

   24. SVSal Vulcano0:37

       Oh, bro, I've done every math.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       (exhales) .

   26. SVSal Vulcano0:40

       Every piece of math you could do. It's d- it's depressing.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Gotta get healthy.

   28. SVSal Vulcano0:42

       Yeah. No, I am.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Gotta get healthy.

   30. SVSal Vulcano0:43

       That's exactly what happened.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Right. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      money.

   2. SVSal Vulcano15:00

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      You have zero money.

   4. SVSal Vulcano15:01

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      You have to work a job. There's no way you're doing that without a job.

   6. SVSal Vulcano15:04

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      If you're lucky, you could teach. You know, if you're lucky, you can maybe teach private le- like, if you're a jujitsu guy or kickboxer, you could d- teach people during the day.

   8. SVSal Vulcano15:12

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      But other than that, man, you fucking, you're barely getting by, and they just stole 15 grand from you.

   10. SVSal Vulcano15:17

       Wow. And-

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       Happens all the time.

   12. SVSal Vulcano15:20

       And nothing comes of it, right? There's appeals-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       No.

   14. SVSal Vulcano15:22

       ... piles of bullshit.

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       We, we get mad. You know, we talk-

   16. SVSal Vulcano15:24

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       ... about it in the commentary, and we, you know, Daniel particularly gets upset because he was a professional fighter, and he's seen it.

   18. SVSal Vulcano15:31

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       You know? But it's like, they always say don't leave it in the judge's hands, but that's nonsense because you, these guys-

   20. SVSal Vulcano15:39

       They're not.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       ... you're not good enough to knock them out.

   22. SVSal Vulcano15:41

       Right.

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       And if you try to knock them out, you're gonna get knocked out.

   24. SVSal Vulcano15:42

       Right, right.

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       It's like, you have to fight smart.

   26. SVSal Vulcano15:44

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       So, like, you always should fight the, the best you can, but smart.

   28. SVSal Vulcano15:49

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       And if you don't do that, you, you're not, you shouldn't be a professional fighter. It's 'cause you're gonna get beat up when you shouldn't get beat up. You're gonna get hurt when you shouldn't get hurt. You know?

   30. SVSal Vulcano15:58

       Yeah. I did, I never did anything, I took karate for, like, six months. But I never did, it was team sports for me. But it was, um, I wasn't particularly... I, I (laughs) , I actually, when the first year at grammar school, got a basketball team. I was in, uh, seventh grade. And so, uh, if you were in eighth grade, you automatically made varsity, and then whatever remaining spots, you had to try out. I wasn't really good, right? But I tried out, and I was the last one cut. So I was the very first person to be placed on the JV team.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah, it was a…

   1. SVSal Vulcano30:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      Yeah, it was a crazy choice.

   3. SVSal Vulcano30:01

      N- not even to just lear- ... 'Cause it's like, "I'm gonna live on this sailboat. I'm gonna go live in a tropical envi- ... I'm gonna live ... I'm gonna learn how to sail."

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      I think they just ... You know, people don't like work, man. Like, a regular job, like, work sucks. And if you ... And, and you get to a certain point in your life when your kids have left the house, and you're like, "This is life. This isn't, like, preparing for something."

   5. SVSal Vulcano30:22

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:22

      "This is life."

   7. SVSal Vulcano30:23

      Right.

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      "I'm not preparing for life right now, so I don't wanna do this."

   9. SVSal Vulcano30:26

      Right.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       "I don't like doing this. Let's just do something else while we can."

   11. SVSal Vulcano30:30

       Yeah, 'cause it was ... It, it ... I mean, when you're out on a boat-... is, that's what it is.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       Yeah. That's what it is. There's nothing else going on.

   13. SVSal Vulcano30:35

       You know, it has no way of really, like, yeah-

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       Yeah.

   15. SVSal Vulcano30:37

       ... centering you, yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       It's like being in the mountains, like, or, you know, being in nature. When you're in nature, you go to the woods, like, "Okay, this is just, this is the only thing that matters, like, this-"

   17. SVSal Vulcano30:45

       Right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       "... this existence."

   19. SVSal Vulcano30:46

       I like that, 'cause I, I didn't grow up with that and that's not common for me, and it's, like, the one thing that really resonates with me as far as, like, shutting my brain off and things like that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       Oh, yeah. The ocean. There's no- there's a reason why all those rich folks live, like, right on the ocean.

   21. SVSal Vulcano30:58

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       They're not stupid. (laughs)

   23. SVSal Vulcano31:00

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       (coughs) I rented a-

   25. SVSal Vulcano31:02

       So it was a-

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       ... house once in, in Malibu. We were getting our kitchen redone in California and, uh, we, we couldn't stay in the house, and so, um, for like four months we rented a house. And we rented this house, like, on the water, and, uh, you wake up and you sit in the patio and it's these sliding glass doors and you're literally above, right above the ocean, so you see nothing but this little, little balcony and then water, and you're like, "Oh, I get it."

   27. SVSal Vulcano31:31

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:31

       "No wonder why these people live right next to each other in a $20 million house," like-

   29. SVSal Vulcano31:35

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:36

       ...'cause I was like, "Who the fuck wants to buy a house with no yard? You're jammed up next to your neighbors."
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   D- you... …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      demonic psychopath that you could hide as a clown.

   2. SVSal Vulcano45:03

      D- you...

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      And you could hide with that language, that clown language.

   4. SVSal Vulcano45:06

      Right. D-

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      "Hi boys and girls, would you like to see a trick?" Meanwhile you're thinking about cutting that kid up in your basement.

   6. SVSal Vulcano45:11

      Yeah.

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      You know?

   8. SVSal Vulcano45:12

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      And th- those are real human beings.

   10. SVSal Vulcano45:13

       Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember when clowns, like, for a minute were, like, in the news everywhere because there was, like, a trend that clowns were terrorizing towns? It was, like five year... Like, maybe, me- less than 10 years ago.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:25

       No. No.

   12. SVSal Vulcano45:25

       Oh my God, so where I'm from in Staten Island, we had the Staten Island Clown.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:29

       Oh no.

   14. SVSal Vulcano45:29

       And this... There was a clown just showing up in public spaces and events, just watching people, and then, like, recessing, like, back into the night. And it would make appearances, it started making the papers.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:41

       I do remember that.

   16. SVSal Vulcano45:42

       Oh, it was wild. And then other-

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       Wasn't it around the time that IT came out though?

   18. SVSal Vulcano45:46

       I don't think it was IT.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       Do you... But, but the book.

   20. SVSal Vulcano45:48

       Maybe it was Terrifier.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       Oh, that late.

   22. SVSal Vulcano45:52

       Yeah, it was like-

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       So what year was this?

   24. SVSal Vulcano45:53

       I was, I think it was, like, I would say, I would put it at 10 years maybe.

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       Okay.

   26. NANarrator45:56

       Yeah, it was 2016.

   27. SVSal Vulcano45:57

       Okay.

   28. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       Yeah.

   29. SVSal Vulcano45:59

       Yeah. But then other places, like other people started-

   30. NANarrator46:01

       Copycats. (laughs)
5. 1:00:00 – 1:05:41

   Yeah. It wasn't... Uh,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      wonder why. Well, when the economy starts going, I would imagine that people stop buying art, right? Like luxury items, shit you don't need, art.

   2. SVSal Vulcano1:00:08

      Yeah. It wasn't... Uh, I forget, but it wasn't, it wasn't economy based. It was like, it was like the, the trend, like, the, you know, the trend within that, that world or whatever. It's like, I... It's always weird to me how people put a price tag on that stuff.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      I was in, uh... Excuse me. I was in Venice recently, and we went to, uh, I guess it's the Guggenheim Gall- the Guggenheim Family Gallery. It's a house that's like... It's a gallery that's, like, on the water. You'll be... You pull up in one of those b- little boats.

   4. SVSal Vulcano1:00:37

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

      You get off and you're in the gallery. And it's, uh, priceless art. It was one person's collection, so one super rich lady put together... Uh, I think, is it called the Peggy Guggenheim in Venice?... I might be making that up. But anyway, it's a lady.

   6. SVSal Vulcano1:00:54

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

      A very wealthy lady, who really loved art.

   8. SVSal Vulcano1:00:56

      Yep.

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      Is that it?

   10. SVSal Vulcano1:00:58

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       Ooh, what a memory.

   12. SVSal Vulcano1:00:59

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       Uh, and she has this incredible collection, where you're like, "How much did she spend?" Like, this is like-

   14. SVSal Vulcano1:01:08

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:08

       ... a billion dollars in art. It's nuts, man. What is that?

   16. NANarrator1:01:12

       That one's the front page of their website.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

       Oh, that's the front page. Oh, that's an exhibit that they have there?

   18. NANarrator1:01:16

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

       But it's all... There's some modern stuff, but there's a lot of, like, like priceless shit.

   20. SVSal Vulcano1:01:21

       Yeah.

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       Just unbelievable collection.

   22. SVSal Vulcano1:01:23

       Do you collect anything?

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       It's only... No.

   24. SVSal Vulcano1:01:25

       Nothing?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       No. I collect pool cues.

   26. SVSal Vulcano1:01:27

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:28

       I like pool cues. And cars.

   28. SVSal Vulcano1:01:28

       No art at all? Nothing?

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:29

       I have some art.

   30. SVSal Vulcano1:01:30

       Yeah.

Episode duration: 2:45:21