Joe Rogan Experience #2391 - Duncan Trussell

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast.…

   1. DTDuncan Trussell0:00

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) Hello, Duncan.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell0:16

      Hello, Joe.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      (laughs)

   6. DTDuncan Trussell0:18

      Hello.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Father. Father Trussell.

   8. DTDuncan Trussell0:21

      Father. Hello, Father Rogan.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Um, are we allowed to do this?

   10. DTDuncan Trussell0:25

       What?

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       This religion you can kind of goof on a little bit.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell0:28

       Catholicism?

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Yeah.

   14. DTDuncan Trussell0:30

       Uh ...

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       They get testy.

   16. DTDuncan Trussell0:31

       I don't ... You know, eh, having now gone to a, a f- more than a few Catholic masses, which are beautiful, and hung out with Catholics, who are awesome, I've really had to reconfigure everything I used to think about it, because they're just really sweet. Had a long conversation with a priest, brilliant dude, totally like non-judgmental, kinda intellectual, you know?

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Hmm.

   18. DTDuncan Trussell0:58

       Philosophical. Like right away, I'm like, "Oh, you should- I want, I should have this guy on my podcast."

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Interesting.

   20. DTDuncan Trussell1:03

       Yeah. It wasn't ... It's not what ... It's the-

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Hmm.

   22. DTDuncan Trussell1:05

       You know, I feel like the Christianity that most people are angry at is not even Christianity. It's-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       You know what I think it's like?

   24. DTDuncan Trussell1:15

       What?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       Like saying that you're a liberal person. 'Cause I'm pretty liberal and you're pretty liberal.

   26. DTDuncan Trussell1:21

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       In the greater spectrum-

   28. DTDuncan Trussell1:24

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       ... but then you get lumped in with ANTIFA.

   30. DTDuncan Trussell1:26

       That's the pro-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   This is how I…

   1. DTDuncan Trussell15:00

      have to deal with ICE too." So, those people are pissed. So there is a contingent of people, uh, who maybe feel the same thing all of us are feeling but also are like, "But, you know, w- w- what's worse?" You know? "I, I ... Like, I'm ..." You know?

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      This is how I think the, the only way to do it would be where you could get a- everyone on your side. Borders are closed, and we're gonna find out who's committed felonies, who out of the people that are illegal that have committed felonies. And if you've committed X amount of felonies, you have, you have to leave the country.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell15:39

      Sh- Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:40

      Right?

   5. DTDuncan Trussell15:40

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:40

      If you've been robbing people for the last 10 years and you're an illegal, you have to leave the country. Right? That makes sense.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell15:47

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:47

      But if you've been here for 25 years, you have a family, your kids go to school here, you speak the language, you're just illegal. But you're a contributing member to the community-

   9. DTDuncan Trussell15:58

      Totally.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       ... that up until now has been protected. This is crazy to ask lower income and, and middle income people who are, you know, kinda getting by, and then all of a sudden you're about to ship them to a country where they've never been, they haven't been since-

   11. DTDuncan Trussell16:13

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       ... they were four.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell16:14

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       And you're gonna, you're gonna b- pull up their family and pull up ... And th- they've been in the community like that. That s- that shows no heart, and that's the problem. Like, you're not gonna get any reasonable people to wanna go along with that. Any kind person would look at that and go, "There's ... This can't be the only way to do this."

   15. DTDuncan Trussell16:32

       Damn right. But, but, you see, once authoritarianism starts creeping in and it makes some inroads, which it's definitely making right now, man, it's definitely making right now. And when ... And you know, I think one thing both of us have in common is we're really good at, like, thinking from the other perspective. Like-

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:49

       Yeah.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell16:49

       ... I can put myself fully into the mind of like a super paranoid person who lives in a city that's all fucked up and who's like, "Yeah." It's like y- Remember that awesome show where it's like one of those vengeance shows where that, that this dad, his family gets fucked up by gang members and then he just goes and starts shooting people? In ... Charles Bronson?

   18. JRJoe Rogan17:14

       Oh, yeah. Death Wish.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell17:15

       Death Wish!

   20. JRJoe Rogan17:16

       Yeah.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell17:17

       Right? So there's a lot of people who are in Death Wish mode right now, and they're just like, "Fuck yeah! Get the troops in the fucking streets. These motherfuckers, I get my car broken into-"

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:26

       Mm-hmm.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell17:26

       "... every fucking night. Nothing's happening. Let's go!" And from, you know, their perspective, it all makes sense. But the problem is once we all start getting used to the military in the streets ...

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:37

       And once we just accept it, yeah.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell17:40

       That's no good.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:42

       But it's like, how bad does the police have to get at doing their job? Or is it the upper management that institutes policies, or is it that the people vote these policies in? But whatever it is that allows the kind of fucking chaos that you can find in Portland.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell18:02

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:02

       Like, whatever this is, you guys aren't doing it right. If this was a house and I came over to your house and these were your kids, I would call protective services.

   29. DTDuncan Trussell18:10

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:11

       I'd be like, "This fucking psychopath must be smoking meth with his kids 'cause everybody's just running around camped out on the fucking sidewalk." Like, "None of this makes any ..."
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   No. Yeah, and maybe…

   1. DTDuncan Trussell30:00

      No. Yeah, and maybe it's not even... I'm pretty sure it's Ben Kingsley. Let's not look it up so I don't look dumb. (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      (laughs) (groans)

   3. DTDuncan Trussell30:09

      Dude, I just watched this series on Netflix.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      Hey, well, let me ask you this.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell30:12

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      We're continuing our, our-

   7. DTDuncan Trussell30:13

      Oh, yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      ... thought process about communism. What do you think happens to New York? Because this Mamdani fella is gonna win.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell30:22

      Oh, yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       Which I think is wild.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell30:25

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       I think it's wild.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell30:27

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       And, uh, I mean, I don't want the people that live there to experience chaos, but if that guy of... any of the things that he said about like releasing prisoners and that... you know, the, the... all the talk about crime-

   15. DTDuncan Trussell30:43

       Well, dude, I mean, look, man-

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       Like, what was his... He had some wild take.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell30:48

       Uh, I think that I, I've seen a few of his wild takes, and I can't remember them. They-

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       They're like, what? They're like college campus takes on crime.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell30:59

       And-

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       You know what I mean?

   21. DTDuncan Trussell31:00

       And seemingly on economics. Like, it does... There is, there is... It, like, it does feel like something I would have done during my acid phase. Like, I would have run on some of his talking points. And, you know, what I love about this country, thank you Jesus for America, is they call it the American experiment.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       Yeah.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell31:18

       And I love it because via democracy, people like him get invited into the laboratory, and it's like, all right, let's see what happens. And we're gonna see. You know, that's the main thing. We're gonna see.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:31

       It's a stress test.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell31:33

       It's a stress test.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:33

       It's a stress test to see if that city can survive four years of that.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell31:36

       But what if it works?

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       Yeah. (laughs)

   29. DTDuncan Trussell31:37

       What if they're wrong, and suddenly New York turns into this, like, shining utopia, no one starving, everyone's happy? As it turns out, we didn't need to keep people in prisons, no more necrophilia on subways.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:52

       Mm. Decriminalize sex work. Decriminalize sex work. Holla at your boy.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Perplexity actually gave her…

   1. DTDuncan Trussell45:00

      never liked it.

   2. NANarrator45:01

      Perplexity actually gave her video to us.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell45:03

      For how to make cocaine, Perplexity? (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      Yeah. (laughs) That's hilarious.

   5. NANarrator45:07

      That's her.

   6. DTDuncan Trussell45:07

      Perplexity's stocks just went up 50%.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      I think she's coming on again soon.

   8. NANarrator45:12

      Yep.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      So, she's awesome. She's been on the podcast a few times. She's also the lady that her and her husband exposed the OxyContin express. They had that documentary-

   10. DTDuncan Trussell45:21

       Wow.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:21

       ... back in the day on that.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell45:23

       Wow.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       Where it was the whole thing about Florida being this pill mill.

   14. DTDuncan Trussell45:26

       Yeah, I saw that.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:27

       And you would go in these pain management centers-

   16. DTDuncan Trussell45:29

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:29

       But she's the one that documented it all.

   18. DTDuncan Trussell45:31

       Wow.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:31

       And was showing how if you follow this road up, you just get addiction and addiction-

   20. DTDuncan Trussell45:36

       Wow.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       ... into Kentucky, and it's all coming right out of Florida.

   22. DTDuncan Trussell45:39

       Wow.

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:40

       'Cause there's no database.

   24. DTDuncan Trussell45:42

       Dude.

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Whoopsies, we forgot to have a database.

   26. DTDuncan Trussell45:44

       Well you-

   27. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       So you could go to one doctor and then go to the next doctor-

   28. DTDuncan Trussell45:47

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan45:47

       ... and go to the next doctor and no, you didn't have to tell anybody.

   30. DTDuncan Trussell45:50

       Oh my God.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   Holy shit. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      committed suicide, and that his parents don't believe that he committed suicide.

   2. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:04

      Holy shit.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

      And there was no indications-

   4. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:06

      It was weird.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      ... that he was suicidal.

   6. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:07

      It was... How, I wonder what Tucker Carlson's security detail looks like.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      It must be like a Chuck Norris movie.

   8. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:15

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      (laughs) 'Cause that's what it fucking... (laughs) It sh- it must be like one of them Delta Force movies-

   10. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:21

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       ... where there's like 40 Dolph Lundgren buff dudes around him at all times.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:25

       (gasps) Pit bulls.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       Like what the fuck, dude?

   14. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:27

       Dude, I know. Like that, I w- yeah, I worry about him of all the people. It's like, holy shit, that guy is not afraid to poke every goddamn wasp nest there is.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       I know, and he's, it's like that's a lot of pressure.

   16. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:40

       Dude.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       That is a lot of pressure being that guy.

   18. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:43

       Yeah, man. Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       You know?

   20. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:45

       Did you see that video of him f- fly fishing in New York?

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       Oh, a long, long, long time ago it was.

   22. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:50

       Yes.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       Yeah, that was, I think that was when he was... uh, I don't even know if he was on Fox. You know, he used to be on CNN?

   24. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:56

       Oh, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Yeah, he was on CNN. He had his bow tie era. Remember he had his-

   26. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:01

       The bow tie era, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       ... bow tie era. Yeah. Yeah.

   28. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:04

       Yeah. Then they, they fucking booted him off Fox, and then he became, like, this renegade free agent journalist, just out there kicking up dust. Just-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

       Did he ever give a direct reason for why they kicked him off Fox? Was there ever...

   30. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:20

       Wasn't he... Well, I think, uh, the sense I got was that they weren't letting him talk about certain things, and he was gonna keep talking about it is the sense I got. And I can't remember what exactly he was doing, but I think, well, he seems to be very much against war.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:20:03

   Mars, yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:15:00

      which is the theory ... (blows raspberry) The theory is that there was a, a tiny little m- mole-

   2. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:05

      Mars, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:15:05

      Like a little marsupial-type creature.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:07

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:15:08

      And that became us.

   6. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:09

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:15:09

      Yeah. So, like, the universe doesn't care. Like, it's willing to scrap the whole project, the whole dinosaur project. That's a wrap. We don't agree with this. Boom. And it doesn't matter. (blows raspberry) And then a new thing comes along and that new thing is us. And according to this Richard Dolan book, it's very likely that we were manipulated.

   8. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:31

      By aliens?

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:15:32

      There's wei-... There's weird genes. There's weird genes in humans that seem to be fused. I'll butcher it, but the point is there's, there's something weird about human genetics that indicate that, um, there's a specific gene ... (sighs) What is it? I... God, I w- wish I could remember what it's called. But it, it aligns with creativity and it seems to have emerged from roughly 40,000 years ago.

   10. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:59

       Whoa.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:16:00

       And if you go back 40,000 years, that's when this, like, giant explosion of cave art comes.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:05

       Huh.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:16:05

       And, like, you start seeing, like, the, those, the... You ever see the Werner Herzog documentary on the caves?

   14. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:10

       Fucking love it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:16:11

       Oh my God, man. Like, what were they doing? Like, this is crazy. There are th- this beautiful cave art-

   16. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:17

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:16:17

       ... by these people. Well, this is, there's this theory that this, this gene emerged somewhere around 40,000 years ago and they thought that maybe the gene came from... Uh, so this gene ... Okay, I'm getting it now. The gene is only transferred through, um, genetics. It's only, it's only transferred through, um, through mating. And it has to be from another species of human. And so they look-

   18. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:45

       Hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:16:45

       ... for it in Neanderthal and it doesn't exist in Neanderthal. Uh, every Neanderthal that they've tested the g- did the gene-

   20. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:52

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:16:52

       ... sequencing, it doesn't have this. And then they tried some other hominids. They don't have it either. So it seems-

   22. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:57

       He... It couldn't be a natural mutation?

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:16:59

       Right. It couldn't be. No, because the way it e-... I'm gonna butcher it. But it's the way, uh, somehow or another the, the genes are fused together that it looks like it was manipulated. And that... It could be bullshit, I know. But they were saying that this gene doesn't als-... It also doesn't exist in Denisovans. So if it doesn't exist in Denisovans, they don't find it there and they don't find it in Neanderthal, why is it in people and why is it around 40,000 years ago? This is it. This is it. He claims that, um, microcephalin D allele-

   24. DTDuncan Trussell1:17:29

       D.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:17:29

       ... allele?

   26. DTDuncan Trussell1:17:29

       I was gonna say that. I was thinking it's part of the D allele.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:17:31

       D allele. I think it's D allele. Is a genetic variant that appeared around 40,000 years ago and is associated with the maturation and expansion of brain tissue. He suggests that the origin of this allele could be from interbreeding with an extraterrestrial species, ha- aliens, rather than from Neanderthals or Denisovans. Dolan highlights that this allele is not found in the genetic makeup of these ancient human relatives, which leads him to speculate that it might be, might have been introduced into the human genome pool by alien beings with either similar biological characteristics or advanced genetic engineering capabilities.

   28. DTDuncan Trussell1:18:07

       Wow.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:18:08

       Da, da, da.

   30. DTDuncan Trussell1:18:08

       Boom, boom, boom.

Episode duration: 2:41:55