Joe Rogan Experience #2398 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays) So what's happening?

   3. KKKonstantin Kisin0:13

      It's all good, man.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      When are you bailing out of your country? It's sinking.

   5. NANarrator0:16

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      That is the fucking-

   7. NANarrator0:17

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      ... Titanic and you're one of the last deck hands. (laughs)

   9. KKKonstantin Kisin0:20

      We're gonna, we're gonna stand and fight, man. It's-

   10. NANarrator0:23

       Yeah. Are you really?

   11. KKKonstantin Kisin0:23

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       Good luck.

   13. KKKonstantin Kisin0:25

       No, we are.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Good luck.

   15. NANarrator0:26

       (laughs) Yeah, we're the guys playing-

   16. KKKonstantin Kisin0:27

       As long as it's still okay.

   17. NANarrator0:28

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       They're gonna arrest you for saying, "Stand and fight."

   19. NANarrator0:31

       Yeah.

   20. KKKonstantin Kisin0:31

       It's-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       It's incitement of violence.

   22. KKKonstantin Kisin0:33

       Yeah.

   23. NANarrator0:34

       Yeah, yeah.

   24. KKKonstantin Kisin0:34

       Yeah. No, but it's got, it's interesting. I mean, obviously you had Graham Linehan on the show. We're gonna have him on as well, uh, soon to talk about it. But he, his, um... They're not gonna prosecute him. And not only that, they also said they are not going to investigate non-crime hate incidents anymore. Do you know what those are?

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Oh, interesting.

   26. KKKonstantin Kisin0:53

       It's basically when you've committed no crime but you're still, like, hateful.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Oh, okay.

   28. KKKonstantin Kisin0:58

       So they-

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       But that's also s- very subjective too.

   30. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00

       Yeah, of course.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   96% of all biologists,…

   1. FFFrancis Foster15:00

      it depends on what science you're talking about.

   2. KKKonstantin Kisin15:02

      96% of all biologists, according to the NIH. Thoughts on human rights?

   3. FFFrancis Foster15:08

      I'm all for them. (laughs)

   4. KKKonstantin Kisin15:09

      Yeah, me too.

   5. FFFrancis Foster15:10

      Especially now, right? Yeah, yeah.

   6. KKKonstantin Kisin15:11

      For everybody, right?

   7. FFFrancis Foster15:12

      Yeah. Yeah.

   8. KKKonstantin Kisin15:13

      Even the unborn?

   9. FFFrancis Foster15:14

      Um, an unborn what?

   10. KKKonstantin Kisin15:18

       Uh, unborn in the womb.

   11. FFFrancis Foster15:19

       Yeah.

   12. KKKonstantin Kisin15:20

       Yeah. No rights for them. Thoughts on human rights?

   13. FFFrancis Foster15:23

       That's what we're here for. (laughs)

   14. KKKonstantin Kisin15:25

       Uh, for everybody, right?

   15. FFFrancis Foster15:26

       Yes.

   16. KKKonstantin Kisin15:27

       Including the unborn?

   17. FFFrancis Foster15:28

       No, no.

   18. NANarrator15:29

       (laughs)

   19. KKKonstantin Kisin15:29

       Everyone has autonomy to not feel that way.

   20. NANarrator15:32

       (laughs)

   21. KKKonstantin Kisin15:32

       But he's like, "No diggity," and he just pulls-

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       Oh.

   23. FFFrancis Foster15:35

       You have no argument. You have... Stop taking rights away.

   24. Get outta here.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       "Nazi lives don't matter," it says on that guy's shirt that's just screaming.

   26. NANarrator15:42

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       Nazi lives don't matter.

   28. KKKonstantin Kisin15:43

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       Uh, who's that guy giving some props?

   30. KKKonstantin Kisin15:45

       Uh, I don't know. Here's the channel.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      their, their jaw drops. Like, "What?"

   2. NANarrator30:02

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      I go, "Dude, they're going crazy over there."

   4. NANarrator30:04

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Like, you have to pay attention. You have to pay attention 'cause this kind of shit is contagious.

   6. NANarrator30:08

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      And if it gets into Germany and then it gets into Spain or it gets into other countries, like, it can pu- become a real fucking problem.

   8. NANarrator30:15

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:15

      Like, then you have full-on military dictatorship in England, 'cause that's what it always leads to.

   10. NANarrator30:21

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       It 100% leads to military dictatorship.

   12. NANarrator30:23

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:23

       If you're telling people they can't do things and you're trying to install socialism and then you get it in place, there's only one way to keep it in place.

   14. NANarrator30:30

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       You gotta use the fucking army.

   16. NANarrator30:31

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       That's the only way. You gotta get men with guns to tell people, "You can only make so much money. You have to give away this."

   18. NANarrator30:36

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       "We're gonna take that. We're the only ones that- ones who grow food. We're the only ones who do this. We're gonna assign you a job." Like, you fucked up. You, you fell into the, the age-old trap that's in- been exposed by history over and over and over again. And people are like, "We're gonna do it right this time."

   20. NANarrator30:51

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       They got blue hair and a fucking mask on and a cat T-shirt.

   22. NANarrator30:55

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       And they're morbidly obese and they're just marching down the street, and th- we're gonna let them run the country. Like, England, th- which used to run, like, most of the fucking world. One island of savages ran most of the world.

   24. NANarrator31:09

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       And now you're getting overrun with nonsense and you're arresting people for saying, "Hey, maybe we shouldn't have rape gangs." You know, "Maybe, maybe we shouldn't, maybe we shouldn't tolerate lawlessness in the streets."

   26. NANarrator31:22

       Oh, absolutely. I mean, it got so ridiculous in the UK that the Supreme Court had to get involved to make a decision whether boys had pee-pees and girls have foo-foos.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:33

       (smacks lips) Pee-pees and foo-foos, that's an interesting way to put it.

   28. NANarrator31:35

       Yeah, that's it. But, but the reason-

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       (clears throat)

   30. NANarrator31:37

       ... I'm using that language is just to highlight how comp-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      shit." You're like, "Holy shit." They just started playing it. He's like, "I'm playi-"... 'Cause you could just play whatever you wanted back then.

   2. NANarrator45:07

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      There was no Jack FM.

   4. NANarrator45:08

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      'Cause we're wacky. There was none of that. Do you guys have that? Where it's like a- just all hits and it's like the-

   6. NANarrator45:13

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      ... call is Jack FM? And there's a million Jack FMs in the United States? Just scattered throughout, like if you're-

   8. NANarrator45:19

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      ... scanning through the radio, you just hear the most mundane hits-

   10. NANarrator45:22

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:22

       ... over and over again?

   12. NANarrator45:23

       Would that be Heart in the UK? Yeah, that would be like Heart. We, we do a version of that.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:27

       Yeah.

   14. NANarrator45:27

       What's also interesting about Jackson's career is that MTV at the time, now you've got to... That, that was when MTV was starting to reach its peak, early '80s, and they were saying that they wouldn't play a Black artist.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:40

       Right.

   16. NANarrator45:40

       Because the moment they played Black artists, they said ratings would go down, viewings would go down, people wouldn't like it. And the person who really broke through and proved that Black artists could be r- hyper-successful on TV, in the mainstream, on a supposedly white inverted commas channel, was Michael Jackson because he was completely undeniable.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       When this was going on, DJs, um, when this guy was playing this song, were allowed to play whatever they wanted. It was a different world.

   18. NANarrator46:08

       Mm. Mm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       Like if a DJ was an interesting person.

   20. NANarrator46:11

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:11

       Like there was one of the DJs, used to have this-

   22. NANarrator46:12

       In our country, he was a pedophile, but (laughs) that-

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:15

       (laughs) Well, ours was a little, too, I think.

   24. NANarrator46:18

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       I think there was a scandal with one of ours at Boston, too. But the point is like, these... They were interesting people that would say cool things, they would-

   26. NANarrator46:24

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       ... tell you about something they heard of.

   28. NANarrator46:26

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:26

       Tell you about some cool music, like, "Somebody turned me on to this. I'm gonna turn you guys at Stevie Ray Vaughan."

   30. NANarrator46:31

       Mm-hmm.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:12:18

   Yeah. It's just too…

   1. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00:00

      right.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      Yeah. It's just too easy to destroy asteroids.

   3. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00:02

      Sorry, I said "exactly right" before you said, "We need an asteroid." (laughs)

   4. NANarrator1:00:04

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

      That's right.

   6. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00:05

      Just to make it clear. I'm not coming out as pro-asteroid.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      I'm only kidding about the asteroid, but we do need a smack-

   8. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00:12

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      You know? Sometimes people need a smack. Sometimes men need a smack, in particular.

   10. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00:16

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

       Like, there's a lot of men that they just get a little out of line and just need a smack.

   12. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00:20

       Hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       Like, "Shut the fuck up-"

   14. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00:22

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

       ... and realize what this life really is."

   16. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00:25

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       'Cause you're wasting... You don't have real problems, so you're wasting all your time creating problems. And this is just a- a giant portion of our world right now. And people feel like they have no power and they feel completely disconnected from things.

   18. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00:38

       Hmm. Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       And the- the... They're also getting most of their interaction with human beings through social media, which is nuts. Either text message or social media.

   20. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00:48

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       Like, this is a- a giant percentage of how people would communicate with each other, with no feelings, no- no context, no social cues, nothing.

   22. KKKonstantin Kisin1:00:57

       I- I think it's one of the reasons there's so many, like, beefs going on now as well.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       Mm-hmm.

   24. KKKonstantin Kisin1:01:01

       Is 'cause, like, you sit down with people, you're- you're gonna behave in a different way.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       100% of the time.

   26. KKKonstantin Kisin1:01:06

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

       100%.

   28. KKKonstantin Kisin1:01:06

       Mm-hmm.

   29. FFFrancis Foster1:01:06

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

       Yeah.

Episode duration: 2:57:07