Joe Rogan Experience #2402 - Miranda Lambert

1. 0:00 – 1:39

   Creative chaos, messy desks, and protecting your ears on stage

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) That's what I hate about the desk. The desk is a mess because my mind is a mess, and I wish my mind wasn't a mess.

   3. MLMiranda Lambert0:17

      You're creative, that's how it works.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Is that how it works? (laughs)

   5. MLMiranda Lambert0:20

      Yeah, I think so. (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Is that the excuse we use?

   7. MLMiranda Lambert0:22

      I don't know, I'm trying to make myself feel better. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      (laughs) I think that's the excuse we use for each other.

   9. MLMiranda Lambert0:27

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       You know?

   11. MLMiranda Lambert0:28

       I'm like, "I'm a creative."

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Yeah.

   13. MLMiranda Lambert0:29

       It's- it's my go-to default, uh...

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Is the compression on? Something sounds weird.

   15. NANarrator0:33

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Oh, it's just really loud. Something happen? Maybe my ears got better? What happened? (laughs)

   17. MLMiranda Lambert0:38

       You can hear now?

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       (laughs)

   19. MLMiranda Lambert0:39

       My ears aren't very good.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Sometimes I... You know, when I'm under water for too long or I swim or something like that, and then I forget that my ears have water in them, and then they come out and like, "Oh." There's that moment where like, "Oh, this is how I hear. Oh."

   21. MLMiranda Lambert0:54

       I feel like... I have the in-ear monitors for my job and-

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Oh, right.

   23. MLMiranda Lambert0:58

       I still... Like, I've been using them for, I don't know, 20 years? And I'm still not used to them. Like, I come from, like, honky-tonk world where you can hear everything.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Yeah.

   25. MLMiranda Lambert1:07

       Hear the room.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Well, it's so good that people have them now, because boy, so many people I know from back in the day are almost deaf.

   27. MLMiranda Lambert1:16

       Oh, yeah. We... I'm so glad we have them. It's not the same. I mean, it... You don't feel-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       Right.

   29. MLMiranda Lambert1:20

       ... the energy of the room, but it saved your hearing. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       (laughs)
2. 1:39 – 3:32

   Selective hearing, marriage dynamics, and why people tune out

   1. MLMiranda Lambert1:39

      My dad is a police officer and, um, he's... I swear that's why my parents are still married. (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:44

      (laughs)

   3. MLMiranda Lambert1:44

      Because he can't hear at all. (laughs) And the dog ate his hearing aid and he never replaced it, and I'm like, "Is that on purpose, Dad?" (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:50

      That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Yeah, you definitely develop an ability to shut things off-

   5. MLMiranda Lambert1:56

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:57

      ... otherwise. Because men and women think and communicate differently.

   7. MLMiranda Lambert2:00

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:00

      And if you want your wife to communicate with you the way your buddies do, then, well, you married a dude.

   9. MLMiranda Lambert2:06

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:06

       Okay? So, if you want to be married to a woman, you have to-

   11. MLMiranda Lambert2:09

       You have to listen.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:10

       ... like, listen and everything.

   13. MLMiranda Lambert2:12

       With both ears.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       And sometimes it's like a-

   15. MLMiranda Lambert2:14

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       ... roundabout journey-

   17. MLMiranda Lambert2:17

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       ... to get to the point. And you can't go, "What the fuck are you talking about?" Because then they're like, "W- Oh my God, why are you so hostile?" So you have to go, "Okay. Okay."

   19. MLMiranda Lambert2:24

       Mm-hmm. Selective hearing.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       Yeah, selective hearing.

   21. MLMiranda Lambert2:26

       But my husband will like... I'll say it, and he'll be like, "Say it back to me."

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:30

       (laughs)

   23. MLMiranda Lambert2:30

       He's like... And I... And I found that when I do that, it's worse.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:34

       (laughs)

   25. MLMiranda Lambert2:34

       Because I'm like... I'm like, "Say- say what I said back to you. Get bananas at the store." So he comes home, I'm like, "Where's the bananas?" "I didn't get any." (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:41

       (laughs)

   27. MLMiranda Lambert2:42

       So don't repeat it. Just hold it in there. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:46

       (laughs) That's hilarious. He blocked it out for himself.

   29. MLMiranda Lambert2:48

       Yeah, exactly.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:49

       That's very funny. Yeah. The- the earring thing... The hearing thing is kind of nuts that no one knew. Like, it made... It just makes you wonder. Like, when did people... When w- I wonder when people were aware that, like, loud music was gonna kill your hearing.
3. 3:32 – 5:13

   Mounted shooting explained: popping balloons from a galloping horse

   1. MLMiranda Lambert3:32

      So... But it's just so loud. I mean, it's so loud. And, um, I also do, uh... I do mounted shooting and so-

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:40

      I saw that. That's crazy.

   3. MLMiranda Lambert3:42

      And so it's a good reminder. Like, the first time I took off on the first... I just started it last year, I'm not good at all, but I love it. And I took off on my horse and I forgot to wear earplugs and I was like, "Well, I'm- I'm a musician." (laughs) "I should probably plug my ears when I're shooting a revolver off of a horse." (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:58

      Yeah. But it's... Is it a revolver using a regular bullet?

   5. MLMiranda Lambert4:01

      Mm-mm.

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:02

      No?

   7. MLMiranda Lambert4:02

      It's black powder.

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:03

      Just the powder itself?

   9. MLMiranda Lambert4:05

      Mm-hmm. Yup.

   10. JRJoe Rogan4:05

       And so it just-

   11. MLMiranda Lambert4:06

       So it's spectator safe, horse safe.

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:07

       So it just sprays-

   13. MLMiranda Lambert4:08

       Sprays powder.

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:09

       ... powder and air?

   15. MLMiranda Lambert4:10

       At the balloon.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:11

       And it p- pops balloons?

   17. MLMiranda Lambert4:13

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:13

       At f- And how... What-

   19. MLMiranda Lambert4:14

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:14

       What distance?

   21. MLMiranda Lambert4:15

       Um, it could shoot, I think, 15.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:17

       Yards?

   23. MLMiranda Lambert4:18

       Feet.

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:18

       Feet. Oh, okay.

   25. MLMiranda Lambert4:20

       Yeah. Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:20

       So you're just riding around on the horse popping balloons?

   27. MLMiranda Lambert4:22

       Uh-huh. I love it. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:24

       (laughs)

   29. MLMiranda Lambert4:25

       I do. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:26

       What was the origin of that sport?
4. 5:13 – 10:08

   New hobbies at 40: golf, focus, and the need for mental vacations

   1. MLMiranda Lambert5:13

      And it's, like, you know, just something that... Like, started a new hobby at 40. Like, it's just trying to, like, preoccupy my mind and- and... I don't know, I think it inspires me to, like, take a break from thinking about what I think about every single day, which is the music industry. You know? So, just like, trying new things and saying, "What the hell? Let's go for it."

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:34

      I think that's very good for artists. I- I try to talk to comedians about that all the time. I'm like, "Forget... Pick up something, man."

   3. MLMiranda Lambert5:41

      Yeah, like, hobbies are important.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:42

      "Take... Play golf, go fishing, do something."

   5. MLMiranda Lambert5:45

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:45

      For me, I play pool. Do something. You have to do something.

   7. MLMiranda Lambert5:47

      I just started golf too.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:48

      Oh, there you go.

   9. MLMiranda Lambert5:48

      I'm in my "try new things" era.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:50

       There you go.

   11. MLMiranda Lambert5:50

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:50

       (laughs) Your "try new things" era.

   13. MLMiranda Lambert5:52

       Yes, my- my "yes" era. Like, "Sure, I'll do it."

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:55

       (laughs)

   15. MLMiranda Lambert5:55

       Uh, started golf, not too great yet. But I did... I just played the Ryder Cup.

   16. JRJoe Rogan5:59

       Oh, nice.

   17. MLMiranda Lambert6:00

       They had, like, a celebrity...

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:02

       Mm.

   19. MLMiranda Lambert6:02

       Somebody heard I played golf and I... When they heard that, I had literally started, like, that day.

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:06

       Jamie's a nut.

   21. MLMiranda Lambert6:06

       And I-

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:07

       Jamie's a full-on golf nut. Like, he's-

   23. MLMiranda Lambert6:08

       Literally was like, "Oh,... cramming my ass off, like, this September because I was on tour all summer and I didn't have time to practice. And you know how that feels, like golf is, you have to practice. And-

   24. JRJoe Rogan6:20

       Do you have a coach?

   25. MLMiranda Lambert6:21

       I had a coach, yes.

   26. JRJoe Rogan6:22

       Nice.

   27. MLMiranda Lambert6:22

       Dan, I have a coach, and he came with me as my caddy. Very helpful. Um, but it was, it was an experience. It was a lot of pressure. (laughs) Like-

   28. JRJoe Rogan6:31

       Did you feel it even though, like, nobody expected you to win?

   29. MLMiranda Lambert6:33

       Oh, my God. Like, yeah. I mean, I just felt like, "What, what, what the hell have I done when I got there?" It's like playing... S- doing something you don't do in front of people.

   30. JRJoe Rogan6:41

       Right.
5. 10:08 – 12:51

   Archery, hunting, and the emotional shift after raising a baby deer

   1. MLMiranda Lambert10:08

      What kind of bow are you shooting?

   2. JRJoe Rogan10:10

      I shoot a compound bow.

   3. MLMiranda Lambert10:11

      Compound bow.

   4. JRJoe Rogan10:12

      Yeah. A Hoyt.

   5. MLMiranda Lambert10:13

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan10:13

      Yeah.

   7. MLMiranda Lambert10:13

      Yeah. I used to shoot bows. I haven't in a long time, but-

   8. JRJoe Rogan10:16

      Oh, really?

   9. MLMiranda Lambert10:16

      ... I, I got them back out during 2020 when I had all the time in the world. And, um, my husband's from New York City, so I was like, "I've got these bows. I'll, I'll teach you how to shoot a bow." So we just set up the targets and got them all fixed up. And it was fun. I mean, it is fun. It's the same thing I think you're talking about.

   10. JRJoe Rogan10:31

       It's very similar.

   11. MLMiranda Lambert10:31

       It's focus. It's just... Even if it's just for a little while, it's that little moment in time that-

   12. JRJoe Rogan10:37

       Mm-hmm.

   13. MLMiranda Lambert10:37

       ... "This is all I'm doing right now."

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:38

       Right. Have you ever bow hunted?

   15. MLMiranda Lambert10:40

       Uh, I used to be a hunter. Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan10:41

       Yeah?

   17. MLMiranda Lambert10:42

       Yeah. I did. I hunted for a long time. My dad...

   18. JRJoe Rogan10:44

       Tree stand?

   19. MLMiranda Lambert10:45

       Yep.

   20. JRJoe Rogan10:46

       Okay.

   21. MLMiranda Lambert10:46

       Or ground blind. Either way.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:47

       Right.

   23. MLMiranda Lambert10:47

       Um, bow hunting was my absolute favorite to, to do because it took the focus and it was intimate.

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:53

       Yeah.

   25. MLMiranda Lambert10:54

       And it took a lot of skill and practice-

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:56

       Certainly bow hunting.

   27. MLMiranda Lambert10:56

       ... to make sure you're gon... Yeah. Um...

   28. JRJoe Rogan10:58

       Whitetail?

   29. MLMiranda Lambert10:59

       Whitetail.

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:00

       Oh, nice.
6. 12:51 – 18:21

   MuttNation Foundation and the reality of rescue work (plus allergies)

   1. MLMiranda Lambert12:51

      Yeah. I'm, I'm such an animal lover. I'm ... I mean, I, I don't do well, like ... I was ... That's why I brought your dog toys. I'm like, I just, I just, I don't know. It's part of like, who I am.

   2. JRJoe Rogan13:02

      Mm-hmm.

   3. MLMiranda Lambert13:02

      Is to have especially dogs. Like, that's my, my heart. But-

   4. JRJoe Rogan13:05

      Me too.

   5. MLMiranda Lambert13:06

      I have a, a foundation called MuttNation Foundation I started with my mom in 2009, and so far we've raised over $11 million since then for ... It was like a little mom and pop operation back in the day. But, um, but we just ... It just has been my heart since I was a little girl. I think growing up in the country where there's just animals everywhere, whether it's-

   6. JRJoe Rogan13:24

      Right. (laughs)

   7. MLMiranda Lambert13:24

      ... deer or stray dogs or stray cats or whatever, I think it just kind of prepped me for, you know, when, when you, like, get a platform and someone's like, "What do you want your charity to be?" It's like, "Oh, I know what it's gonna be."

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:37

      So, what does your charity do?

   9. MLMiranda Lambert13:38

      We rescue ... Well, we advocate for rescue. Um, MuttNation Foundation, we don't have shelters. We lift up the arms of shelters, is what we say, because we ... My mom and dad were private investigators my whole life, and so my mom, like, just because we started rescuing dogs just when I was a little girl, you know. You live in the country, people dump 'em off and whatever.

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:59

       Right.

   11. MLMiranda Lambert13:59

       Started adopting some from the shelter as a teenager and volunteering, and so, you know, she sort of started vetting shelters just because that's her background, you know, checking up on people to make sure they're doing what they're supposed to. And, um, and so like 2009 it was like, oh, I kind of started to get a name for myself, and you need to pick something that you're passionate about that you want to give back to, so we started it. Um, and basically we advocate for sp- spay and neuter, we advocate for adopt, don't shop, and we, um, raise money to give to shelters all over the country. Every year, we give a $5,000 grant to a shelter in every state, um, and try to not repeat. So, there's just so many that need help, you know?

   12. JRJoe Rogan14:42

       Yeah.

   13. MLMiranda Lambert14:42

       And there's so many amazing animals out there. We just try to remind people there's amazing animals out there, that you don't have to go buy one. There's-

   14. JRJoe Rogan14:50

       If my w- uh, my wife is allergic and one of my daughters are allergic-

   15. MLMiranda Lambert14:54

       You have to have them.

   16. JRJoe Rogan14:54

       ... we still have two dogs. But if I ... If that wasn't the case, I'd have like 50 dogs.

   17. MLMiranda Lambert14:59

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:00

       I c- I can't do it.

   19. MLMiranda Lambert15:00

       But, uh, yours are n- non-shedders.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:02

       What's that?

   21. MLMiranda Lambert15:02

       Yours are shedders though, right?

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:04

       Yeah, they shed.

   23. MLMiranda Lambert15:04

       They do.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:05

       Yeah. That, you know, you just keep 'em clean. She's not as, not nearly as bad as when I first met her. When I first met her, she really would get like, hives if she-

   25. MLMiranda Lambert15:13

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       ... pet the dogs. But also, I was not that good at washing my dogs, and they were always in the yard playing around.

   27. MLMiranda Lambert15:19

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       And they were always dirty.

   29. MLMiranda Lambert15:21

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       But if you don't have dogs, d- dogs are like extra love. You have ... Your love in your life will be whatever the level's at now, it'll be like 35% higher.
7. 18:21 – 25:39

   Texas, touring after COVID, and the shock of the first show back

   1. MLMiranda Lambert18:21

      Yeah. My little brother lives here and his husband, Mark, and he went to UT and never came home. Our little town, Landale, Texas, representing today.

   2. JRJoe Rogan18:29

      Nice.

   3. MLMiranda Lambert18:29

      Um, it's about 80 miles east of Dallas. And so I bought a place here in 2017 and spend a lot of time in Austin.

   4. JRJoe Rogan18:36

      It's great.

   5. MLMiranda Lambert18:37

      It's a great town.

   6. JRJoe Rogan18:38

      You just... I mean, we should probably stop talking about how great it is because people want to move here. (laughs)

   7. MLMiranda Lambert18:42

      (laughs) Yeah. It's not that great. There's a lot of allergies, guys.

   8. JRJoe Rogan18:44

      Yeah. Guys, stay home. Don't sneeze. I talked a lot of people into moving here, and I think I've done talking people.

   9. MLMiranda Lambert18:49

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan18:50

       It's like, "We're good." So-

   11. MLMiranda Lambert18:51

       Well, Nashville's our other city that, that's happening, too. But, you know.

   12. JRJoe Rogan18:54

       Sure.

   13. MLMiranda Lambert18:55

       The more, the merrier, really.

   14. JRJoe Rogan18:56

       Well, the thing about Austin is, like, it wasn't really much of a comedy scene. There was one comedy club that closed before I moved here. It had already closed, like, before the pandemic. And... Or, I guess, like, at the beginning of the pandemic, it went under. And so the comedy scene here was kind of empty and, you know, when we moved here and we started doing shows here, it was one of the only places in the country where you could do live indoor shows.

   15. MLMiranda Lambert19:20

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan19:20

       And we were like, "Fuck it." And then comedians just started moving here.

   17. MLMiranda Lambert19:24

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan19:24

       'Cause they were convinced that LA was never gonna open. And once I was here and Ron White was here-

   19. MLMiranda Lambert19:29

       Yep.

   20. JRJoe Rogan19:29

       ... Tony Hinchcliffe was here, everybody was like, "Well, let's... Fuck it. I wanna live."

   21. MLMiranda Lambert19:34

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan19:34

       "I don't, I don't wanna be trapped in my house and not be able to perform for a year and a half or whatever it's gonna be."

   23. MLMiranda Lambert19:39

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan19:39

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   25. MLMiranda Lambert21:08

       It's great. I, I... My first show back, um, I think it was after, like, 332 days-

   26. JRJoe Rogan21:15

       Whoa.

   27. MLMiranda Lambert21:16

       ... of no shows, no bus rides.

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:18

       What did-

   29. MLMiranda Lambert21:18

       It was crazy.

   30. JRJoe Rogan21:18

       What did it feel like? What did it feel-
8. 25:39 – 30:08

   Co-writing, Marfa’s magic, and learning from hungry younger artists

   1. JRJoe Rogan25:39

      It's... When you, when you sit down to wr- Do you, like, sit down and write in front of a computer? Do you wait till an idea comes to you? Do you write on a piece of paper? How do you...

   2. MLMiranda Lambert25:49

      All of it. Um, usually, like, I love to co-write. Writing by myself, I'm not good at it. I encourage it for any artists I'm mentoring or anything else, but I need to do it myself more. Um, 'cause co-writing's fun. You're, like, hanging around with-

   3. JRJoe Rogan26:04

      Right.

   4. MLMiranda Lambert26:04

      Which I met you, actually, at one of my favorite writer's, uh, benefit.

   5. JRJoe Rogan26:08

      Yes.

   6. MLMiranda Lambert26:08

      Jack Ingram. Um, him, and John Randels, my other best friend, and I, we... Which I think you met him too. We, uh, we have a little side project we call The Marfa Tapes, and we would go out to the desert in Marfa in... Which is... Have you been there yet?

   7. JRJoe Rogan26:22

      No, I haven't.

   8. MLMiranda Lambert26:22

      It is like a different world.

   9. JRJoe Rogan26:25

      That's what Rick Rubin says.

   10. MLMiranda Lambert26:26

       It is a different, literal different world.

   11. JRJoe Rogan26:28

       Yeah.

   12. MLMiranda Lambert26:28

       And it, there's so... Like, it's ma- It's magical. I don't know what's in the air out there, but (laughs) ...

   13. JRJoe Rogan26:32

       How far is the drive? Is it like five hours-

   14. MLMiranda Lambert26:34

       From here?

   15. JRJoe Rogan26:35

       ... from here?

   16. MLMiranda Lambert26:35

       About six and a half.

   17. JRJoe Rogan26:36

       Six and a half?

   18. MLMiranda Lambert26:36

       Ooh, is that coffee?

   19. JRJoe Rogan26:37

       Yeah, you want some?

   20. MLMiranda Lambert26:38

       Yeah. Um, anyway, like, we'll sit around and JR is an amazing-

   21. JRJoe Rogan26:43

       Cheers.

   22. MLMiranda Lambert26:44

       ... guitar player. Cheers. Thank you. He'll come up with, like, a riff or if somebody has a title. That's why I like co-writing. I don't know. It's more fun to celebrate it with your friends. You know what I mean?

   23. JRJoe Rogan26:53

       Yeah, for sure. I mean, some of the best ideas that comedians ever come up with, we come up with in the green room 'cause we're just riffing.

   24. MLMiranda Lambert27:00

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan27:00

       Like, there's always a moment where, like, you know, we're hanging around and Tony will say something. We're like, "Dude, write that down. Write that down."

   26. MLMiranda Lambert27:05

       Yeah, same thing.

   27. JRJoe Rogan27:06

       Yeah.

   28. MLMiranda Lambert27:06

       It's the exact same thing.

   29. JRJoe Rogan27:07

       Yeah, yeah. Well, it's like, you know, creativity is interesting because y- y- y- you, you want to be inspired, and you're never more inspired than you are around other creative people.

   30. MLMiranda Lambert27:20

       Yeah. Especially people that are better than you. (laughs)
9. 30:08 – 33:41

   Prince, Morris Day & The Time, and what real charisma looks like

   1. MLMiranda Lambert30:08

      His name is Kool, my shooting horse.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      That's his name?

   3. MLMiranda Lambert30:10

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      D- With a K or a C?

   5. MLMiranda Lambert30:12

      It's a C. He's Kool.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      (laughs) That's a great Morris Day and the Time song.

   7. MLMiranda Lambert30:17

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      You never heard that song, Kool?

   9. MLMiranda Lambert30:18

      No.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       Oh, it's a great song.

   11. MLMiranda Lambert30:19

       I need to hear it. We h- we have a theme song and I didn't know it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       Yeah, e- e-... We'll give her some of that. We'll have to cut this out otherwise we'll get removed from YouTube, but play Morris Day and the Time, Kool.This is, like, during the Prince days. Morris Day and The Time, I think is, like, one of the most underappreciated bands from that era, from, like, the early '90s, because they got kind of eclipsed by Prince.

   13. MLMiranda Lambert30:41

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       You know, because they were hanging around with Prince, and they were part of, like, the whole Prince...

   15. MLMiranda Lambert30:46

       I don't know anything, anything about 'em.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       You don't know about Morris Day and The Time?

   17. MLMiranda Lambert30:49

       No, I don't.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       Oh, my God. Play Cool by Morris Day and The Times.

   19. NANarrator30:53

       I'm making sure it's the right one. I got a version that says it's just Morris Day, and then another version popped up that said it was just The Time, so maybe you need to go to-

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       Either way, it's always gonna be Morris Day singing. I don't think The Time ever played without Morris.

   21. NANarrator31:06

       All right, 5 seconds.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:07

       Morris is cool as fuck, though. Here it is. All right, we'll edit this out for people at home, sorry. Go find this. ... bad like me.

   23. MLMiranda Lambert31:16

       That's (laughs) awesome. Look at that.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:17

       Is it great?

   25. MLMiranda Lambert31:17

       Look at the clothes.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       Oh, it, it's so corny. It's so great.

   27. MLMiranda Lambert31:20

       Oh, it's-

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       It's so, like, tongue in cheek.

   29. MLMiranda Lambert31:21

       What year is that, like?

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       Oh, God, I don't know. N- It's gotta be early '90s, right? '91?
10. 33:41 – 51:04

    Growing up fast: Miranda’s NYC chapter and the stress of city life

    1. MLMiranda Lambert33:41

       No, you don't. Mm, like, you grew up in Jersey, right?

    2. JRJoe Rogan33:45

       I was born in New Jersey.

    3. MLMiranda Lambert33:46

       You were born in Jersey.

    4. JRJoe Rogan33:46

       But I only lived there 'til I was six.

    5. MLMiranda Lambert33:47

       Where'd you grow up?

    6. JRJoe Rogan33:49

       Oh, God. I grew up everywhere. I lived in San Francisco from 7:00 to 11:00. I lived in Gainesville, Florida from 11:00 to 13:00.

    7. MLMiranda Lambert33:57

       Lots of moving.

    8. JRJoe Rogan33:58

       Yeah, a lot of moving. And then I lived in Boston from 13:00 to 24:00. Then I lived in New York-

    9. MLMiranda Lambert34:03

       New York, in the city?

    10. JRJoe Rogan34:03

        ... for a few years. No, I lived ... I couldn't afford, uh, parking-

    11. MLMiranda Lambert34:07

        (laughs)

    12. JRJoe Rogan34:07

        ... so I had to live outside the city. 'Cause I'm a comedian, I had to drive everywhere.

    13. MLMiranda Lambert34:11

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan34:11

        I had a lot of road gigs. That's where I made my money.

    15. MLMiranda Lambert34:13

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan34:14

        So to drive to Connecticut and Rhode Island, like, in the city, it was like a parking spot was hundreds of dollars a month back then.

    17. MLMiranda Lambert34:20

        Yeah. My husband's-

    18. JRJoe Rogan34:21

        So I lived in New Rochelle.

    19. MLMiranda Lambert34:22

        Okay, cool. My husband is a, was NYPD. He's s-

    20. JRJoe Rogan34:26

        Oh.

    21. MLMiranda Lambert34:26

        He retired after eight years, but ... Because I drug him down to Tennessee, and now Texas.

    22. JRJoe Rogan34:30

        Nice.

    23. MLMiranda Lambert34:30

        And now he says y'all. (laughs)

    24. JRJoe Rogan34:31

        Does he? Does he say y'all-

    25. MLMiranda Lambert34:33

        A little bit. (laughs)

    26. JRJoe Rogan34:33

        ... unironically? (laughs)

    27. MLMiranda Lambert34:34

        (laughs)

    28. JRJoe Rogan34:34

        How long has he been there?

    29. MLMiranda Lambert34:35

        Um, we've been married seven years, so yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan34:37

        Okay, after five-
11. 51:04 – 1:02:50

    School, ADHD, and the role of one great teacher in changing your life

    1. JRJoe Rogan51:04

       ... illness. There's something wrong with me. Yeah, I'm, I'm s- for sure if I was born in a different time, I was born in the '60s, they didn't really diagnose kids with ADHD when I was a kid, and dope 'em up.

    2. MLMiranda Lambert51:14

       Oh, we both have it. (laughs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan51:15

       100%.

    4. MLMiranda Lambert51:17

       We 100% have it. (laughs)

    5. JRJoe Rogan51:18

       100%, I got it. Whatever that fucking is, it's a superpower. It's a superpower if you use it right.

    6. MLMiranda Lambert51:23

       Yeah. I think so too.

    7. JRJoe Rogan51:24

       Yeah, just the idea that you have to medicate a kid 'cause he can't sit in school. Like, find out if that kid's good at other stuff.

    8. MLMiranda Lambert51:30

       Right.

    9. JRJoe Rogan51:30

       Find out if there's a thing that-

    10. MLMiranda Lambert51:32

        100%.

    11. JRJoe Rogan51:32

        Yeah. Okay, maybe they can't sit there where someone's teaching them math, maybe they get bored real quick, maybe they start talking to their friends. Whatever it is, they probably have a thing they're really good at. If they could find that thing, I bet they're focused like a motherfucker when they're playing video games, right?

    12. MLMiranda Lambert51:46

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan51:46

        So what's that all about, you know? Find the thing that that kid can lock into.

    14. MLMiranda Lambert51:51

        100% agree.

    15. JRJoe Rogan51:53

        You know, the thing is, like, you make people do things that are completely unnatural. You make people sit down when they're six-

    16. MLMiranda Lambert52:01

        (laughs)

    17. JRJoe Rogan52:01

        ... in a chair, while some lady who's making $35,000 a year, doesn't like kids, is teaching them some shit that she doesn't care about. So there's no energy in the room.

    18. MLMiranda Lambert52:10

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan52:10

        Everything... And then when they're out in the yard with their friends, they're having fun and they're laughing and wah, so they'll talk, "Uh, this is bullshit. This class sucks." And they're talking to each other and then they get in trouble for talking, like, "Ugh."

    20. MLMiranda Lambert52:22

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan52:23

        "Your child's a problem." Is the pro- child really the problem?

    22. MLMiranda Lambert52:26

        (laughs)

    23. JRJoe Rogan52:26

        See, like, the child has a lot of energy. That's not a problem.

    24. MLMiranda Lambert52:29

        Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan52:29

        You just... You're not providing an inspiring environment for a, a growing mind. It is turning you into a, a dull drone. Some worker that could just f- is capable of, like, shutting themselves off all day and then showing up and then just doing some stuff that they don't wanna do because they were taught how to do it when they were kids, like, bleh.

    26. MLMiranda Lambert52:50

        I feel like there's a lot more opportunities now than there was. Like, even when I was in school, it was kind of just like Lindale ISD, like everybody does, learns the same, everybody goes to the same class. You know what I mean? And I just... My mom says I learned differently. (laughs) She tries to say it that way. (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan53:07

        (laughs) You learned differently?

    28. MLMiranda Lambert53:08

        Differently. (laughs) But looking back, it's the sa- like you just described my entire, like, existence as a student. (laughs)

    29. JRJoe Rogan53:14

        Well, it's not just yours. It's mine.

    30. MLMiranda Lambert53:16

        Yeah.
12. 1:02:50 – 1:04:59

    Early gigs, ‘no backup plan,’ and getting started at 16–17

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:02:50

       Do you remember the first time you ever got on stage, like at a honky-tonk or?

    2. MLMiranda Lambert1:02:53

       Yeah. It was, uh ...

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:02:54

       How old were you?

    4. MLMiranda Lambert1:02:55

       T- true ... 16.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:02:57

       Whoa.

    6. MLMiranda Lambert1:02:57

       It was a True Value Country Showdown.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:02:59

       (laughs)

    8. MLMiranda Lambert1:02:59

       At the Rio Palm Isle in Longview, Texas.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:03:01

       Wow.

    10. MLMiranda Lambert1:03:02

        Um, yeah, and I was scared to death, 'cause I was like the shy kid, too. My dad's a songwriter, too. You're gonna love this. My dad-

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:03:09

        He's a cop and a songwriter?

    12. MLMiranda Lambert1:03:10

        My dad is a songwriter and he plays guitar, and he had a (laughs) band. His cop band, on their side gig, was all narcs and they were called Contra Band.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:03:20

        (laughs)

    14. MLMiranda Lambert1:03:22

        They were a country band called Contra Band. Can you even?

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:03:24

        (laughs) That's a great name.

    16. MLMiranda Lambert1:03:24

        (laughs) It's the best.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:03:26

        That's a great one.

    18. MLMiranda Lambert1:03:26

        But-

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:03:26

        That's funny.

    20. MLMiranda Lambert1:03:27

        Yeah, but he wrote songs, so I was like, "I'm gonna enter this contest." My mom was like shocked. I went and s- ... I was like working in the yard. She's like, "Go pick the weeds." I'm like, "Mom, there's a ad on the radio for a contest called The True Value Country Showdown and I wanna enter it." And she was like, "What? You don't even talk ... You don't ... You're too shy. Like, are you kidding me?" And I was like, "No, I wanna do it." And she was like, "What are you gonna sing?" You had to sing an original song and I sang one of my dads. And-

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:03:50

        Oh, wow.

    22. MLMiranda Lambert1:03:52

        And s-

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:03:52

        What was the song?

    24. MLMiranda Lambert1:03:52

        It was called, um ... Gosh, now I can't think of it. Too many song titles in my head, way-

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:03:58

        Right.

    26. MLMiranda Lambert1:03:58

        ... way too many. Um-

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:04:00

        It's like Dunbar's number.

    28. MLMiranda Lambert1:04:01

        There ... Here I Go Again, that's what the title was.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:04:02

        Oh, okay.

    30. MLMiranda Lambert1:04:03

        And so like, 'cause I grew up on like ... Forever I thought my dad wrote like, Mama Tried (laughs) because I grew up with him just playing John Prine and Haggard and David Allco and, uh, Guy Clark, you know. So, I started to realize, oh, some of these are like my dad's originals, and some of those are Merle Haggard's (laughs) -
13. 1:04:59 – 1:28:21

    Fate, stars, nicotine pouches, and the modern search for ‘something’

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:04:59

       Yeah. Do you believe in fate?

    2. MLMiranda Lambert1:05:01

       Yeah, I do.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:05:03

       You probably should.

    4. MLMiranda Lambert1:05:04

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:05:04

       Right? 'Cause it worked out. (laughs)

    6. MLMiranda Lambert1:05:05

       Yeah, exactly. (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:05:07

       That's my, my bias about fate. Like if, uh, if, if anybody should believe in fate, it's people like you or I. But I'm not sure. And my bias is that I believe in it 'cause it worked out.

    8. MLMiranda Lambert1:05:19

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:05:19

       You know? But I mean, if your life is shit and you're like, "Is this fate?"

    10. MLMiranda Lambert1:05:23

        (laughs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:05:23

        Like, "What did I do in a past life?"

    12. MLMiranda Lambert1:05:25

        (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:05:25

        "Like, what kind of an asshole was I-

    14. MLMiranda Lambert1:05:27

        (laughs)

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:05:29

        ... that everything just turned out so terrible?"

    16. MLMiranda Lambert1:05:32

        (laughs)

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:05:32

        You know?

    18. MLMiranda Lambert1:05:32

        Oh, well, there's, there ... I mean, I don't know. I feel like I also met my husband in like a crazy way, and so I can't help but believe in fate, like I-

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:05:40

        There's something to it.

    20. MLMiranda Lambert1:05:41

        Yeah, I believe in it.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:05:43

        Yeah. There's something to it. As much as I ... My mind want- ... My rational mind wants to ignore the possibility, like the randomness of the universe, the size and scope of it all. Do you really think it matters what you do? Do you really think it ... God, but it does to you. Right? It has a giant impact on your life, and everything matters. Just because there's black holes doesn't mean your fucking, your homework doesn't matter. You know, everything matters.

    22. MLMiranda Lambert1:06:08

        Right.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:06:08

        Your whole world, everything matters. It's like you can't think that things don't matter, like that the universe wouldn't have a plan for your life. When in ... It seems to have a plan for everything.

    24. MLMiranda Lambert1:06:20

        Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:06:21

        I mean, all of it seems to be happening for some sort of a very bizarre reason.

    26. MLMiranda Lambert1:06:26

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:06:26

        All of it together. So, I'm sure that there's something to fate, but it's just my rational mind wants to go, "That's just your ego. It's like silly. You could've been born in Somalia, you know, life could've sucked for you." You know, it's, it's hard to ... 'Cause fate's a weird one, like you can't measure it, can't put it on a scale.

    28. MLMiranda Lambert1:06:47

        Mm-hmm.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:06:47

        But it seems to be real.

    30. MLMiranda Lambert1:06:49

        Yeah. Well, it's real for us.

Episode duration: 2:29:47