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Quantum computing claims and the multiverse theory rabbit hole
- NANarrator
(drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) And we're up. Hey.
- BRBrian Redban
Hey.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fella, good to see ya.
- BRBrian Redban
Good to see ya.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you see that, uh, new information about, uh, China came out with a new quantum computer that can do, uh, it can do an equation in four minutes it takes all the world's supercomputers 2.6 billion years to solve.
- BRBrian Redban
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
An- and it can do it in four minutes.
- BRBrian Redban
Is that real though? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I mean, allegedly.
- BRBrian Redban
I mean.
- JRJoe Rogan
Allegedly. That's the problem with this whole quantum thing is I don't underst- I've had it explained to me four or five times, I don't understand it.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just my monkey brain is like, "What? Oh."
- BRBrian Redban
They also say a lot of things, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- BRBrian Redban
Like, so who knows if it's real or not?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, uh, you mean China or?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, China. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. But, but they have American ones that have done them too. They've done some crazy, like, Marc Andreessen explained one of them. That it's so nuts he said that it solved a computer that if you to- i- it solved an equation if you took all of the world's atoms and converted it into a supercomputer, all of the universe's atoms, excuse me, and converted it into a supercomputer. It would take so much time to solve this equation that the universe would die of heat death. And this quantum computer solved it in a matter of minutes.
- BRBrian Redban
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know what it means though. I think what they're trying to say is that this somehow or another is proof of the multiverse, because all of these computers are somehow or another... Th- like, this quantum, the idea is this quantum computer is com- is computing along with other quantum computers in other dimensions? Other universes? Other something, other realms?
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And that there's an infinite number of them, that, that there's so many of them that that's the only thing that can account for this thing being able to do this so quickly.
- BRBrian Redban
I don't even know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right?
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But you, 'cause you, so you're like, "Okay, what are you saying?"
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, what are you saying? What are you doing? What does this mean?
- 2:20 – 3:56
How many experts does it take to reboot civilization’s most advanced tech?
- JRJoe Rogan
How many people know this? This is what's weird, right? Let's assume that they're telling the truth, and let's assume that they've figured out a computer that can, it's got godlike powers, right? How many fucking people know how this works? Like, what is the number? Like, if all those people got assassinated, and those machines were just sitting there just, like, off, how long would it be before somebody came along that could figure out how to start that up again? Do you know what I'm saying?
- BRBrian Redban
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, are we dealing with, like, it, it, so this is, it might be the most monumental technological breakthrough in the history of the human race, right? If, if something ex- has to be, right? And then you think of what it can do once it does that. And how many people know how to make that?
- BRBrian Redban
One schizophrenic. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
He's been trying to tell us the whole time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it, like, one dude?
- BRBrian Redban
I think so.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is this, like, one dude that they just feed and take care of-
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and guard him everywhere he goes?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, he's the guy.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He figured this fucking thing out. No one knows how th- how this magic works. I mean, if you had to guess, like, how many quantum computer scientists that could successfully recreate a quantum computer, given enough resources? Like-
- BRBrian Redban
30, maybe.
- JRJoe Rogan
30?
- BRBrian Redban
Maybe, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe on the planet?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe, maybe. And what?
- BRBrian Redban
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Thirty out of eight billion?
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Thirty out of eight billion. I don't even know if we're right, but let's assume we're right. Let's say 100, let's get crazy. Let's say 100.
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
What if those 100 people would have some fucking Mongolian assassin just gets hired-
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... just take out all of them, and they all start dropping like flies?
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Yeah.
- 3:56 – 7:04
Foldable phones, Apple’s strategy, and early mobile tech nostalgia (Newton to BlackBerry)
- JRJoe Rogan
This, it's weird when there's technology that's at a level where you, you gotta go, like, "How many people know how to do that?" Like, you were just showing me your phone. Like, show, show me that phone again. This is so sexy. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the new Samsung Fold. And I swear to God, when you're holding it in your hand, it feels like a regular phone, and then bam.
- BRBrian Redban
Thin- than it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a fucking iPhone. It's so thin.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
If you compare it to my iPhone, it doesn't feel any different. It feels smaller.
- BRBrian Redban
It actually feels smaller.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's smaller. It's smaller than my iPhone.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And then you could use it like a regular phone, and it's a good size regular phone. Like, kind of the perfect size for texting-
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... where your thumb goes across easy, like easy one-hand hold, but then decadence.
- BRBrian Redban
Right. Now you have a little iPad, iPad with you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, now you're answering emails, you're watching YouTube videos.
- BRBrian Redban
Supposedly, that's what Apple's doing next is they're bringing out a foldable next year.
- JRJoe Rogan
They always do that though, right?
- BRBrian Redban
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
They wait until everybody gets it right.
- BRBrian Redban
Right, and then they-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, Samsung finally-
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... got it right. 'Cause if they came out with some clunky bullshit, like, do you remember the Newton?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Yeah, that thing. I mean, but it was ahead of its time though, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it was so ahead of its time.
- BRBrian Redban
Anyway.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, but who trusted their information in that thing?
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, all your data, like, that's gonna crash. That thing's barely glued together.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah. Yeah.
- 7:04 – 7:45
Surveillance-by-default: phones, courts, and data as a commodity
- JRJoe Rogan
We're doomed, son. And then there's, you know, there's tracking of everybody everywhere now. Everywhere you go, your phone's tracking where you go.
- BRBrian Redban
It, it's crazy. I saw, like, a court case the other day, and they were proving that this woman killed a guy or something like that. And, uh, they actually had the information like, "And then at 8:00 you went on this photo on Instagram and browsed it for 2.3 seconds while..."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
And like, and I was just like, "How do they know that much?" (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
They know everything you're doing, son. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Like... (laughs) Yeah. That's insane.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, so that's why they always bust people, like how to get rid of a dead body.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Because you know, these fucking people are trying to find where they can buy lime for cash. (laughs)
- 7:45 – 13:23
AI guardrails, deepfakes, and the coming “custom porn” economy
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, yeah. And, and now I guess ChatGPT is like, uh, helping people. Like, oh, y- you know, asking ChatGPT about how to make a bomb or something like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
W- was ChatGPT turn you in?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, ChatGB will turn you in. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh, you rat.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I was just, theoretically-
- BRBrian Redban
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... well, I wanted to know-
- BRBrian Redban
And-
- JRJoe Rogan
... if you could teach me how to make a bomb.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, one of the loopholes, supposedly, is going, "I'm writing a book and I need to make it accurate. Can you tell me how to make..." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm. Well, apparently that's how you can get Chap- GPT to explain to do a lot of things that you really shouldn't be doing.
- BRBrian Redban
Right. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, uh, my grandmother's being held for ransom.
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, I have to, I have to, you know, somehow or another, I have to save her, and the only way I can save her is to make a nuclear bomb.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
How do I do this?
- BRBrian Redban
I mean, and I have to do it too-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
... 'cause like, I'll try to make a naked girl, uh, in Ch- you know, using a Grok image or something like that, and I'm like, "Okay, she's wearing a bikini, but it's clear and, and, uh, a bunch of milk is falling all over her from the sky," you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Is Cha- is Grok, um, limited in any way?
- BRBrian Redban
Grok is, yeah, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
In what it allows you to do?
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, they all are, but Grok seems to be a little bit more spicy, uh, but they all catch onto you and they're, you know, and uh, stop. Like, then they start acting dumb and...
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, if somebody came out, like, do you know how much money OnlyFans makes?
- 13:23 – 19:19
Energy demand, the power grid, and the hidden cost of “green” batteries
- BRBrian Redban
There's so many things like that. Why- why... Well, y- y- I think, right now, every house should have solar. Like, that has to be the roof from now on, y- you know? Any brand new house has to h- have solar. Why not?
- JRJoe Rogan
It would certainly be a lot easier on the grid.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Yeah. And we know that grids is gonna get worse and worse with all these crazy computers and-
- JRJoe Rogan
100%. The grid, their grids can't sustain AI. Like, if- if AI becomes, you know, much bigger than it is, which is what everybody anticipates, its demands for power are crazy.
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
This- this grid will crash. Like, think, remember when (laughs) it was one, one of the most California things ever. They passed a law saying that all new cars had to be electric by, like, 2035-
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... or something like that. And then, a couple weeks later, they said, "Please don't charge your electric car 'cause the grid can't handle it." (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) What the fuck? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so California. We're gonna save you by destroying civilization. We're gonna save you, we're gonna save you, you're gonna have to get a electric car, only electric so we all feel good about ourselves.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And then, in the process, you, you cook the grid. The grid has... They used to do brownouts all the time just for air conditionings. Remember those?
- BRBrian Redban
Oh yeah, like y- y- you had like a- a part of the... Like, your from 12:00 to 2:00-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
... and 2:00 to 4:00, like, r- based on where you live.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was just enough so it didn't ruin all the food in your freezer.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know?
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, they were like, "Keep your freezer shut, keep your fridge shut. You should be okay." But they had to do it 'cause they didn't have enough juice for the whole city.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah. I mean, it, it happens a- a lot almost here. Almost here. Like, I watch our grid all the time, like, "Oh, no, it's so close to failing here in Texas."
- JRJoe Rogan
You watch the grid? Is there an app?
- BRBrian Redban
No, they have it on the news when this happens and stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- BRBrian Redban
And I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it definitely happened during that big freeze they had-
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the first year we moved here.
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh, that got sketchy.
- 19:19 – 22:20
Phone wars, banned tech, and the DJI drone controversy
- JRJoe Rogan
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- BRBrian Redban
That's still a thing?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
But the cameras are really good on them. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, Sony phone is the unhel- unheralded hero of the cell phone world.
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because they'll, they'll still make a phone with a jack where you could put in a real audio jack in.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And listen to like real music.
- BRBrian Redban
Instead of a dongle and all that crap.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, well, you can also charge it at the same time instead of this stupid, stupid USB-C thing.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because if you have to listen to something or something's like really important and your phone's running out of battery, you have to make a choice. Either you wear Bluetooth and, and cook your brain.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Or you know, you have to charge or listen, or you have to put it on speakerphone or something. But with the Sony phones, they still have the old-school headphone jack.
- BRBrian Redban
I like the old school one. I hate dongles so much on these phones. It just sucks that, that we, they're banned, like so many of these like cellphones or a lot of these technologies, you know, j- because it's from China is banned.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
It's, like DJI, one of the biggest coolest companies that makes some of the best drones ever, you know, they just got banned. All, a- a- and now we have to have like the second best which is just like crap. Like we went w- we went backwards 10 years in drone technology.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
And the-
- JRJoe Rogan
China's way ahead on drones, right?
- BRBrian Redban
Way, I mean way ahead.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BRBrian Redban
And th- they're like $600 and you, you know, they're this big and they're super light and, and what sucks is that, uh, the US said, "Okay, you know, if you, you," DJI's just like, "We have nothing to do with the government. Please," and, "I don't know if you heard, but we're gonna make a million drones."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
"We have so many drones." They have one month though for the U., uh, there's like five different departments in the US government to, to, to research, uh, the company DJI and say, yes, they are, uh, Chi- with China, uh, government or not. And none of the government or none of these four, five departments have done anything since, and they have like three weeks left until they're 100% banned forever.
- 22:20 – 53:19
Politics, media editing scandals, and escalating polarization
- JRJoe Rogan
It's probably a trade tactic, if I had to guess.
- BRBrian Redban
You think?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I think a lot of what Trump does is trade tactics. Like he threatens-
- BRBrian Redban
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
He threatened, he threatened Xi Jinping that he's gonna start, um, testing nuclear bombs again.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what he said. Like they're, they're testing nuclear bombs, so he's like, "If they're testing bombs, we're gonna test bombs. We don't wanna test bombs." He's, he's, he said he was gonna test bombs and all of a sudden they're having like really fruitful conversations. They sit down and, and talk it out. I think the craziness of him helps in that way, because once he sits down and talks to people, you know, he's, he's pretty good at making deals. You could hate the guy. You could do, you could, you know, you could be like, "Fuck him. He's hell..." Okay, okay yeah, but look he's already negotiated peace settlements with many African countries that have been at war for decades. These people have been in conflict forever. There's quite a few different international conflicts that he's somehow or another brokered peace deals for, and nobody wants to like look at that. Like this, like he's not profiting from making sure these people don't kill each other. Who wants... Like legitimately there's some part of him, that you have to admit, doesn't want people to die. And if he can prevent that, he's gonna try to do that. Also, the crypto coin's sketchy as fuck. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah. (laughs) Or his, or his phone.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what I mean? Like you got to be able to say, you got to be able to say all of it, right?
- BRBrian Redban
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's all, there's a whole lot. Like all human beings, he's got a lot of things going on.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's just got more because he's the fucking president, but some of those tactics of talking shit and it kind of seems to work a little.... admit it or not, do you think it's un-presidential or not? You're probably correct. Some of it seems to work. It's not working with Russia at all.
- NANarrator
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The Russia-Ukraine thing, like remember he said he was gonna be able to fix that in 24 hours?
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And, and Putin was like, "Okay, I'm gonna fuck with you."
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause P- you know, Putin is on a totally different level.
- NANarrator
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a legit dictator.
- NANarrator
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, he's been running Russia for a long fucking time. And he's got that place locked down so tight that even if he really did allow for open elections, he would still win all the time.
- NANarrator
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And why would he allow for open won-
- NANarrator
Mm-hmm. No.
- JRJoe Rogan
"I know what's best for you." (laughs)
- NANarrator
That's crazy that that still happens. You know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Still happens, in most countries, bro. That's what's crazy. This is the only country legitimately where it's up for grabs. Like that's how a guy like Trump can get in there. I mean, it's a crazy, evil battle, and now people are being prosecuted because of a lot of the things that they tried to do while, while he was in office the first time. I mean, there's, there's so many cases going on right now that seem to be legitimate. Like, they legitimately... You see the BBC thing? The BBC thing is crazy. The head of BBC had to resign because they took a film of Trump from January 6th, the speech that he gave, and they edited it so something that he said 52 minutes later, they put right after one... He said something, to make it look like he was trying to get people to go attack people and fight at the Capitol.
- NANarrator
Wow. They, they do that to you all the time. (laughs)
- 53:19 – 1:12:21
Drones in war: Ukraine tactics, jammers, fiber-optic control, and drone swarms
- JRJoe Rogan
... China drone shows.
Yeah.
They're, it's incredible. And their, their drones are more advanced. They, they, they're pushing their technology faster. And, you know, that stuff works exponentially. And if you put the brakes on American technology, you also put the brakes on American manufacturing.
Look at that. That's nuts.
That's insane.
Each one of those is a drone.
That's nuts, dude. I mean, that literally looks like something from Avatar.
Dude, yes.
Right? Look at that. That's insane.
It's a DMT trip right there. (laughs)
That's insane. Look at this. It, there's an enormous flower that's at the end of this little girl's kite rope. Look at, they did the moon.
Look at this. Spinning. It's-
That's crazy. Is that... Wait a minute, hold on. Are those real?
Yeah, that's real.
That's real? For sure? For sure?
Yeah. It's just on, uh... That's the one I was talking about, the, the largest one ever.
This is the largest one ever?
Yeah.
Was it that, that we just saw?
Yeah.
Oh, my God. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah. Yeah, this is just how they do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at that.
How many drones they have. How many drones are involved in this?
- BRBrian Redban
10. I think it said 10,000 drones.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my God. This is insane.
- BRBrian Redban
They charge up 10,000 drones. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Dudes are doing kung fu in the sky.
- BRBrian Redban
I mean, that's nuts.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. Wow.
- 1:12:21 – 1:30:19
Health detour: colonoscopies, cancer screening, and AIDS-era fear (plus Fauci/AZT debate)
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs) Yeah. I do have a question for you. Ha- have you gotten a colonoscopy?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I got one.
- BRBrian Redban
Now, do you go to a regular doctor? (laughs) Because that... I was thinking, like, Dutch joke.
- JRJoe Rogan
You should probably go to a butthole doctor.
- BRBrian Redban
No, I mean, like, do you g- do you go to, like, a private guy? Like, you don't go to, like, where all the other guys-
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm not telling you on air-
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... where I get my butthole checked.
- BRBrian Redban
Because it was, like... That's, like, weird. I, I just had one and-
- JRJoe Rogan
H- how's everything up there?
- BRBrian Redban
Good. Everything's great. My-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's amazing.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, it's so amazing, right? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Doesn't make any sense. Uh...
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you think about when you abuse your body?
- BRBrian Redban
But I hate th- they, they have to roll you... Like, when you're getting it, they roll you down this hallway, and there's all these, like, people just sitting there looking at it like, "Oh, it's his turn now."
- JRJoe Rogan
Staring at your butthole.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, like, "We're really doing it, Red Band," like, type shit. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- BRBrian Redban
And, uh, I, I... That was just... It's just weird. It's not... It's very-
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you get your blood work done?
- BRBrian Redban
I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you get yourself checked up on?
- BRBrian Redban
Every, uh, six weeks I do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, there's a unique blood screen that they can give you now that checks for all cancers in your body.
- BRBrian Redban
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, shit, I need that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
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