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(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast.…
- JDJeff Dye
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JDJeff Dye
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) I'm trying to get to that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's the key. That's the-
- JDJeff Dye
But they're tricking me, Joe. They're- they're-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
... they're baiting me in with the algorithm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, these motherfuckers. They get me too. They get me in the morning. When I was-
- JDJeff Dye
I was just talking about it with Jamie, that like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Are we rolling?
- NANarrator
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
I was just talking about with him, is like, I'm so good at, like, not caring what people think, sort of. And then I find, no, I really care a lot. Like, I'm like-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
... in a constant tug of war of that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Everybody cares.
- JDJeff Dye
Because I used to have Google alerts on.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no. For your name?
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah. And then I had to get rid of that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, how dare you do that.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah. Then I was like, "I'm gonna check the YouTube comments." So that's when-
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- JDJeff Dye
... that was a ring that I had to close. I'm slowly closing the rings. The ring I'm stuck in right now is checking what, like, my comedy peers are up to. You know, that kind of stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no.
- JDJeff Dye
The one, the- the- they make videos-
- JRJoe Rogan
Let me get you a cigar.
- JDJeff Dye
The videos they make of like, uh, "Oh, so and so is- is, you know, having a breakdown, or Marc Maron said this." Or those kind of, like those rings, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no, no, no.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Mm-hmm. …
- JRJoe Rogan
to compete at a, at a peak level, and then you get a drop off. Some people have more longevity than others. It varies. Some people it's a much shorter reign, and you gotta kinda look at who they were when they were at the top. You can on- you can only look at them when they're at that peak. Like guys like Anderson Silva, he gets, gets kinda dismissed because later in his life the performances weren't the same. They weren't elite performances. But I say that's just human.
- JDJeff Dye
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
You gotta look at him when he was the champion. He was one of the most elite guys that's ever competed in the sport, period. He's one of the greatest of all time. But you can only, you gotta look at when he was in his prime.
- JDJeff Dye
Sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? And there's only a certain amount of time he can do that. And then when a fighter doesn't want to do that and only that anymore, you gotta get out. You gotta get out, 'cause there's some fucking 20-year-old Mike Tyson out there. There's some animal.
- JDJeff Dye
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's some dude that lives, breathes, sleeps fighting, and they, all they wanna do is land shots and take you out. They just, they, that's their whole focus in life. They don't give a fuck about relationships. They don't give a fuck about where they live. They don't f- give a fuck about anything, just winning. And that's how you become a world champion. That's how you become elite. But you can only maintain it for so long. It's not a normal way for a human being to exist. It's very, it's a very strange way to live.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah. (laughs) For sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? And for her it's natural. Like, she's a woman. She's like, "I wanna have babies. I have this great man, and-"
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and she's married to Travis Browne, who's also a beast, who was a elite UFC heavyweight, top 10 heavyweight. You know, she's like, "I'm done. I'm gonna make some warrior kids." I get it.
- JDJeff Dye
I saw it and I was like, what the hell does that mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Boo.
- JDJeff Dye
She's quitting?
- JRJoe Rogan
She just didn't want to beat up-
- JDJeff Dye
You don't wanna fight anymore?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no. She-
- JDJeff Dye
Now my niece is rooting for Holly Holm. Good lady.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
Holly Holm's nice.
- JRJoe Rogan
She is nice.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
That's what we like.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
We like the winners who are nice.
- JRJoe Rogan
I, yeah, I get it, but there's something about Ronda being Ronda that made the sport what it is.
- JDJeff Dye
But I root for-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's, that's what-
- JDJeff Dye
... Luke Skywalker-
- 30:00 – 45:00
Right. …
- JRJoe Rogan
them with better ideas. It's not a 30-06 round to the neck-
- JDJeff Dye
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... publicly, where people are cheering. That's crazy.
- JDJeff Dye
And they kept it vague. They keep it vague. That's how it always works.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
It's like, well, I go, "Well, why don't, why are you s- why are you posting on, um, social media that you, that you're happy about i- or that you're not sad about it? Just tell me simply why, why you think that." And they go, "Well, because his ideas were dangerous." Super vague.... didn't say the ideas, didn't say how they're dangerous or why they're dangerous. It's always vague.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, there's also a problem with clips. When you take soundbites, like very short clips out of context of what someone's saying, and then you highlight that one particular sentence and the way they said that sentence, you could frame someone in a very different way than-
- JDJeff Dye
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
... who they really are. And I think there was some problems with some of the things that Charlie said, the way he said them, and i- in the fact that you could take it as a clip. And one of 'em was the idea of DEI pilots.
- JDJeff Dye
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like the idea of any lowering of standards of anyone in a really important job like a pilot because a person is blank, fill in the blank, because they're a lesbian, or because they're gay, or because they're white, or because they're Chinese, or because they're Black, or whatever it is. If you're lowering standards because you want more people of one thing, well, you've just made the skies a little more dangerous.
- JDJeff Dye
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
You've made a, a very dangerous thing, which is flying, a little more dangerous. So his statement was, because they're doing this and they're trying to get... They're using DEI to hire people, and when I get on a plane and I see a Black pilot, I hope that they're qualified.
- JDJeff Dye
Or he wonders.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
He said, "I don't want... I hate that when I see a Black pilot, my mind thinks, 'I wonder if they were part of a DEI hiring'."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JDJeff Dye
Correct.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. That's... It's a problem in the way he said it.
- JDJeff Dye
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Instead of saying that that way, because what... One of the things that I pointed out is that what DEI, especially in regards to education, the people that it discriminates the most against, like people say it's a white supremacists idea to, uh, to be against DEI. The people that DEI discriminates the most against in education is Asians, because Asians fucking kill it in universities. They kill it.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So much so that there was a giant lawsuit at Harvard because they were making their admission standards more difficult for Asian people than they were for white people, for Black people, for everybody else. They made Asians more difficult because if they didn't, half of their fucking population-
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... in their classes would be Asian because they work harder.
- JDJeff Dye
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a cultural thing. You know, I grew up in Taekwondo, and I grew up around a lot of Koreans. And man, you haven't seen work ethic until you've seen first generation Koreans who come over to America and, you know, they have those tiger moms and tiger dads. That's a real thing, dude.
- JDJeff Dye
That's good.
- JRJoe Rogan
That is a fuck... I guess-
- JDJeff Dye
Well, I mean, for these sort of subjects.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
So did he. (coughs)…
- JRJoe Rogan
against that because I have so many hours of me talking.
- JDJeff Dye
So did he. (coughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but in a different way, where people are listening to me having these three-hour conversations. It's like, it's kinda hard to label me to anybody who's paying attention. And it's just the... It's also the, the benefit of having the biggest platform in the world.
- JDJeff Dye
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, it's like, there's enough people that have seen so many shows that, like, "I know who that guy is."
- JDJeff Dye
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
"That's not who that guy is." It's-
- JDJeff Dye
I think you're giving them a lot of, uh, grace, because-
- JRJoe Rogan
You have to.
- JDJeff Dye
I... 'Cause, like, I... People are just going, "Aren't you afraid of AI?" No, not afraid of AI. What I'm afraid of is clips, short context things. Even recently, I did Howie Mandel's podcast, and I, uh, got asked for the millionth time about the Marc Maron thing. And, and I was like, "What? Dude, the, the good part of that Marc Maron story is that we buried it," I, I think. Who knows? It'll rear its head again, I'm sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not with that guy, there's no burying anything with that guy.
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, I know, but, like, I was like, "How about that story? Tell that story, Howie, that we shook hands-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
... at The Comedy Store and were able to share a stage, and sh-... Not a stage, but share the, the... A room full of stages." And, um, it just... Howie's... Howie Mandel's team just posted the thing, so, you know, all the comments are like, "Jeff Daw, I can't stop talking about Marc Maron again."
- JRJoe Rogan
Hey.
- JDJeff Dye
And, like, that's what I'm saying is that Charlie Kirk's guilty of... Or not guilty of it, but a victim of it. Um, this, this short real thing that is out of context is not a three-hour conversation. No one's listening to Trump in long form. No one listened to Charlie Kirk in long form. The people that were informed did.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JDJeff Dye
But I'm saying the, the, the everyday person is kind of just kind of collecting these excerpts-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JDJeff Dye
... and then forming a group think about those excerpts. And the group think becomes their reality.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's very true. It's very true.
- JDJeff Dye
And I'm afraid of that for you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that... There's pr-... That's true in some ways, but it's also benefits you in some ways too. It's like there's good and bad. Like, there's little things that you'll say that are funny that make it into clips. And that's good too. It's like the thing... Like, I was tr-... Talking to Tony about this, 'cause we were talking about people that complain about his show and talk shit about his show. I go, "Dude, they work for you. They don't realize it, but they work for you." They're the publicity arm-
- JDJeff Dye
Sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the negative publicity arm for the Kill Tony Show. Do... Don't w-worry about it and don't care.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can't, you know-
- JDJeff Dye
Write a book on that.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's-
- JDJeff Dye
Teach me how to not care.
- 1:00:00 – 1:09:17
(laughs) Ed knows. …
- JRJoe Rogan
- JDJeff Dye
(laughs) Ed knows.
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) All right, uh, in Canada, people whose sole underlying medical condition is severe depression or any other mental illness are currently not eligible-
- JDJeff Dye
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for medical assistance in dying. This temporary exclusion includes psychiatric conditions like depression and personality disorders. The law excludes eligibility for MAID on the basis of mental illness alone in March 17, 2027. Uh, however, people with mental illnesses may be eligible if they have a grievious... grievous, grievious, or, uh, ir- irremedible... Boy, that's a word. Have you ever said that word? Irremediable?
- JDJeff Dye
No, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Irremediable. I've never said that word.
- JDJeff Dye
You don't know what you're talking to. I've never said that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Physical, but I've never even seen that. Irremediable? Physical health condition that meets MAID's criteria. The government has delayed eligibility expansion for mental illness due to concerns around safety and appropriate safeguards. Uh, when MAID for mental illness becomes le- becomes legal, they say it like it will be-
- JDJeff Dye
2027, March.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, okay.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what I'd read. Okay. This was the issue, so they were going to. Okay. The law excludes eligibility for MAID on the basis of mental illness alone until March 17, 2027. So, there's a year and a few months, and then these people are eligible for this.... uh, as a 0.5-
- JDJeff Dye
Numbers go up.
- JRJoe Rogan
... severe depression alone does not qualify. So what it seems like is a lot of people that are just not doing well, it's the end of their life, and they're like, "I'd like to go out on my own terms."
- JDJeff Dye
That's fair.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't wanna just-
- JDJeff Dye
Scary.
- NANarrator
Sad.
- JRJoe Rogan
... walk into a library with a .44 and make people clean up.
- JDJeff Dye
Or they go, "I'm a f- financial burden on my family."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JDJeff Dye
Or, or those kinda things.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, right.
- JDJeff Dye
When you're an old person, you feel a little guilt that, like, "Ah, my kids are-"
- JRJoe Rogan
That's true. And also, sometimes people, like, one of their loved ones dies and they don't wanna be alone.
- JDJeff Dye
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
They just can't... They've been with this person for 45 years.
- JDJeff Dye
My dad just died, and my mom is not doing great with the... I mean, she's been with him since she was 17.
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