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(drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- JRJoe Rogan
(drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Uh, what's up, Dan? How are you? Good to see you.
- DFDan Farah
Good. Good to see you, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good to see you again. Uh, first time that I saw you was the first time I saw your documentary, which is fucking excellent.
- DFDan Farah
Thank you, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, The Age of Disclosure, really good. Can't recommend it enough. If you're a UFO dork like myself and you're in and out, like sometimes you're like, "This is bullshit. Maybe it's real. This is bullshit. Maybe I'm wasting my time. Maybe it's real. Maybe it's..." Go see The Age of Disclosure.
- DFDan Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And then you'll be fully in the "I don't fucking know, but who... Something's going on." That's where I am right now.
- DFDan Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know, but something's going on.
- DFDan Farah
Definitely something going on. It's a real situation.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's a real weird one. When you see all these like high-level government employees talking about secret access programs and back engineering programs that have been going on for decades and decades in secrecy, and you're like... Your documentary did a fantastic job of highlighting a couple of reasons why I always... When people are skeptical and they go, "Oh, okay, if there was a program like this, why wouldn't they just tell us?" You, you have to really understand the consequences of what they've done, 'cause what they've done is lie to Congress-
- DFDan Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for a long time. It's a misappropriation of funds, clear felonies. Like... (laughs)
- DFDan Farah
Yeah. Lie to the public-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DFDan Farah
... lie to Congress, lie to sitting presidents.
- JRJoe Rogan
The m- just the money stuff, and also, let's just be really... Let's be just honest about human nature. If you have complete access to enormous amounts of money that's not under any oversight at all-
- DFDan Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for sure some of it-
- DFDan Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Some of it went in the pockets of people that probably shouldn't have got it. 100%.
- DFDan Farah
I think it's safe to say.
- JRJoe Rogan
100%, has to be.
- DFDan Farah
Everyone I've talked to who, who's aware of the details of the deeply hidden legacy program says that it's at least over a trillion dollars spent since the '40s.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my God.
- DFDan Farah
It's an enormous amount of money.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my God.
- DFDan Farah
And it's a much bigger program than people would suspect.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Right, and what is…
- DFDan Farah
be dangerous and we're either at, through secret programs, their level, or we're about to be. And then that's when you get to a crossroad. So I think that's one of the things driving officials like Rubio and Rounds and Gillibrand and Jay Strat and, um, to come out and say what they legally can because it's a set of circumstances that the human population really needs to know about and then it's become a humanitarian issue. How do we deal with this?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, and what is it, right? What is their purpose? If they are real, are they here to help us? Are they monitoring us? One of the creepiest things that Bob Lazar said is that w- they look at us like containers.
- DFDan Farah
Yeah, I mean...
- JRJoe Rogan
And I was like, "What does that mean?" Con- like, con- containers of souls is what I interpreted from it, but that's just me. But like what does that mean, containers?
- DFDan Farah
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, like it seems like human beings have an insatiable desire to innovate and create better technology, and that seems to be leading us into AI and seems to be leading us into probably what connects us with the rest of the universe, the rest of the intelligence of the universe. But the stuff that got us here is being these territorial apes, you know. That's why we developed cities and that's why we developed agriculture and that's why we, we had enough free time to innovate. We had enough free time to invent things and change things. But our nature is really what holds us back 'cause we're still constantly warring. Like, it hasn't changed at all.
- DFDan Farah
No, it's crazy that we're still threatening nuclear war 80 years after, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DFDan Farah
... dropping the bomb on Japan. We're still invading sovereign nations.
- JRJoe Rogan
We're involved in a proxy war. We're, you know, we're helping Israel. It's like there's so much chaos and death going on in the world because of human beings-
- DFDan Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and the decisions that they're making, that if I was an intelligent life species from somewhere else, I'd be very concerned.
- DFDan Farah
Yeah, I'd be like, here's these, this group of monkeys on a, uh, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DFDan Farah
... trajectory.
- JRJoe Rogan
About to make a digital god.
- DFDan Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're real close to having super intelligence-
- DFDan Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... in digital form and the- these idiots are still blowing themselves up from the sky.
- DFDan Farah
Yeah, yeah, which also is why one of the current dilemmas exists, right? So this, this technology exists. Private defense contractors have this technology. Elements of the government have this technology.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're convinced?
- DFDan Farah
Beyond, beyond convinced.
- JRJoe Rogan
And what do you think that te- technology consists of?
- DFDan Farah
I have been completely convinced by multiple members of the intelligence community, the military, senior leaders in government, people who are running the Senate Armed Services Committee, the Senate Intelligence Committee, someone who sits on the White House National Security Council, that our country has recovered dozens, dozens-
- JRJoe Rogan
Dozens?
- DFDan Farah
... of crashed craft of non-human origin and done so since the '40s and there has been success reverse engineering elements of this technology, and the same thing has been happening in China and Russia, and it's a very real situation. It's a high stakes situation. It is referred to as the atomic race on steroids and...... I am completely convinced of that. And the, and the contractors that, the defense contractors, the people like Jay Stratton and Luis Elizondo and people on the Senate Intel Committee have told me are involved are Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman, Raytheon, Battelle, um, big companies, um, that have a lot of resources and are advancing this technology. But it's all so classified and so deeply hidden that it hinders progress.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DFDan Farah
And the fear that if this technology got out, it'd be used by bad actors to create weapons of mass destruction has sort of prevented the scientific progress that could be better for mankind, that could be good for mankind. Like, this, this could... This technology, to quote Hal Puthoff in the film, says... He says, "This, this is the key to interstellar travel. This is the key to exploring the galaxy. This is the key to, to, you know, things that sound like science fiction, like teleportation." Um, all these things that could just revolutionize humanity and, like, the trajectory of our species-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- 30:00 – 45:00
So if it's not…
- DFDan Farah
- JRJoe Rogan
So if it's not ours-
- DFDan Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... what, what is the predominant theory of what they are?
- DFDan Farah
The predominant theory is that they is multiple species, and there's no one answer. Everyone I talk to who has real visibility to the crash retrieval program says the non-human bodies that have been recovered in some of these crafts all look different.... there, there are multiple species. The universe is full of life.
- JRJoe Rogan
How many different species?
- DFDan Farah
I've heard of at least four body types that were recovered.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, all I've heard of is the grays, which is like the Close Encounters of the Third Kind ones, the Nordics, which is the, uh, also known as, like, the tall whites, right? They're the same thing?
- DFDan Farah
I've heard people say it, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then, there is, uh, the reptilians. People talk about reptilians being the scariest one.
- DFDan Farah
No one's ever used that word with me, to be honest.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- DFDan Farah
Yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then there's mantis. There's, uh, ones that are, like, insect-like.
- DFDan Farah
I've heard people say that, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I haven't heard of any more than that.
- DFDan Farah
Yeah. Well, um, I've also heard multiple military people talk about little beings that almost look like E.T., little, little bots that don't, don't seem sentient. That seem like they're, they're, um, almost like a-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like a robot?
- DFDan Farah
Yeah, like a robot almost, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
M- some artificial creation?
- DFDan Farah
Maybe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DFDan Farah
Maybe. You know-
- JRJoe Rogan
You would imagine if you get to genetic engineering and, and when there's cyborgs and you integrate technology with this, this genetic engineering, you're gonna be able to create, like, workers.
- DFDan Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like little... That's what many people have thought the grays are. Like, there's small grays that are... They're w- they're, they're more in a, like, a workforce capacity.
- DFDan Farah
I've heard that.
- JRJoe Rogan
They just do the bidding of the taller grays, which seem to be more intelligent.
- DFDan Farah
I've heard that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just-
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Hmm. I think they…
- DFDan Farah
film that he, he briefed, he... M- that Mnuchin, the Secretary of Treasury, asked for a briefing on the lay of the land because Trump asked him to get the briefing. And Trump had already known that the base facts, that, that, that we're not alone in the universe, that, that there's been recovery of crashed craft, right? He knew those base facts. And he told Mnuchin that he was thinking about going public. And so Mnuchin reached out to Stratton to get a briefing, and he told, he told Stratton that the reason he wanted the briefing is 'cause he needed to be able to evaluate what the impact would be to the economy if the president decided to step to the mic and tell the world we're not alone. Stratton tells this story on camera in the film, and I've heard a lot more about it off camera. Uh, so we know Trump contemplated doing this already. Now I think the release of this film and Rubio's involvement puts enough on the table that it, it, it makes it easier for him to do.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm. I think they would have to have some sort of a plan in place if they were going to say that, right? Like, the amnesty plan. The idea behind it would have to be in place. If someone's g-
- DFDan Farah
Or at least grab, grab control of the situation and say that we're g- this is real and the US intends to lead the way. 'Cause the other, the other factor that the White House has to keep in mind is, you don't want Xi or Putin being the guy to do that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DFDan Farah
You don't want them to have that moment.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DFDan Farah
Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DFDan Farah
Um, you know, something I always think about with, when it occurs, with regards to that moment of a president stepping to the mic, when we entered the space race, Kennedy gave that big famous speech, right? He was like, "We're gonna lead in space. Uh, technology, like, you know, space technology, like nuclear technology, has no conscious of its own. It's up to man to use it for good or bad. And we're, we're gonna make sure it's used for the betterment of all mankind. And we're gonna lead the way." That was his whole-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DFDan Farah
... rallying speech, right? And it made the whole scientific community be like, "We're gonna help, help the US win." Like, you know, rah, rah, rah, right? I think that's needed in this race. Like, we need all the support of the scientific community, of academia, the kids coming out of MIT. We need them putting their brain power towards this. And I think the White House knows that. And it's also the greatest, it's the, that's the greatest TV moment a leader could have in the history of humanity. Step into the microphone.
- JRJoe Rogan
How much do you think Elon knows?
- DFDan Farah
Look, I've seen him, obviously, talk to you about it. I think he knows a lot.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Me too.
- DFDan Farah
I don't think you get the contracts and the clearances you need to operate in, in space-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DFDan Farah
... without some horse trading.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, when I went to SpaceX, I'm like, "Motherfucker, you know everything." (laughs)
- DFDan Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) There's no way, there's no way you're launching these fucking things into space without them keying you in on exactly what's going on. He's just sly about it.
- DFDan Farah
Well, I do think, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
He goes, "Yeah, well, if they are aliens, they certainly are subtle."
- DFDan Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what he says. Like...
- DFDan Farah
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Are they really? I don't know, man.
- DFDan Farah
I think it's impossible to operate in space like, like he does and not be aware of everything. And, and also at the level he, he operates clearance-wise. Um, I held a secret screening at the National Space Symposium earlier this year, which is the Super Bowl of the space industry. It's like 60 people, heavy hitters from the space industry. We didn't promote it or publicize it at all. But there were a dozen guys from SpaceX there.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DFDan Farah
And they all (laughs) and they all seemed very aware of everything revealed in the film.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I'm positive.
- 1:00:00 – 1:14:03
Okay. Does that mean…
- DFDan Farah
is reverse engineered technology.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. Does that mean in space in low Earth orbit, or does that mean traveling through the solar system?
- DFDan Farah
The- what was implied to me was traveling through the solar system.
- JRJoe Rogan
Geez.
- DFDan Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So are these- and-
- DFDan Farah
Here's another thing someone, that- that same person said to me, by the way.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes?
- DFDan Farah
So, before I forget, that their belief is that the technology we have would not be pulled out even to stop a world war.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DFDan Farah
It would not... Those cards would not be shown until moments before, like, a nuclear war situation.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DFDan Farah
So they wouldn't pull it out to stop, like, any of the wars we've experienced in the last, you know, since World War II. Um, they wouldn't... You know, regardless of how many, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
It has to get to nine. (sighs)
- DFDan Farah
It has to get to a level where there's no-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DFDan Farah
... there's no other option.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- DFDan Farah
'Cause it's show your cards.
- JRJoe Rogan
Now, when they say that they've traveled through the solar system, is this biological human beings, or are these drone crafts? Like, what are they saying?
- DFDan Farah
I, I, I never got any of that. I never got any of that. All I was told is there's some of the, some of the UAPs that are seen, that have been seen by our astronauts on space missions, are non-human intelligent life and some are reverse engineered craft. That's what I was told.
- JRJoe Rogan
But we don't know whether there's a person inside of them.
- DFDan Farah
I, I don't know
- NANarrator
Most definitely not.
- JRJoe Rogan
If they are reverse engineered and they are ours, and we figured out how to make our own...
- DFDan Farah
That, I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I need to know that.
- DFDan Farah
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NANarrator
(laughs)
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