EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,002 words- 0:00 – 15:00
(drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- NANarrator
(drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJelly Roll
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) I just really feel like... you might have a chance here to, like, really help some people that were big. You know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh-
- JRJelly Roll
Like that in this pod we might have a chance to like-
- JRJoe Rogan
... one million percent.
- JRJelly Roll
So I brought a bunch of notes about what I went through. So don't, don't look at me like a super nerd today-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, man, I-
- JRJelly Roll
... but I wanted to make sure I got my... I wanna help people, dude. I just... Man, I never thought I'd lose this weight, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
I like a dude with notes.
- JRJelly Roll
(grunts)
- JRJoe Rogan
Especially a dude who lost 300 fucking pounds.
- JRJelly Roll
Let's go, baby.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's go. Look at you, dude.
- JRJelly Roll
Dude, I feel great, yo.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you should feel great.
- JRJelly Roll
I feel really, really good, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're a totally new human being.
- JRJelly Roll
It is, man. And you know what's crazy? I, I, I don't wanna get super spiritual out the gate, but I will, 'cause I think God wants me to right now, 'cause of you saying that. There's a scripture in the Bible that says, uh, "In Christ all things are a new creation," which I thought was interesting, because it didn't talk about restoring the old. It says that in God we are a completely new creation. You know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- JRJelly Roll
So like I... I was looking at it at first like I'm restoring my heart. But then when you're saying that, I'm like, "No, I didn't restore my heart. I got a whole new heart." This is a brand new heart, Joe. You know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JRJelly Roll
It might be cloaked as the old one, but God touched it. This is a whole new heart, baby. It's a different heart.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, listen. Every seven years doesn't every cell in your body get replaced by new cells?
- JRJelly Roll
I think so.
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't that what the number is?
- JRJelly Roll
That's crazy. And it happens on a holy number.
- JRJoe Rogan
Throw that, throw that into our sponsor, Perplexity, and find out if that's nonsense. But I think that's true. I think that's what happens. So you do have a chance to be a new human being.
- JRJelly Roll
And think that it would happen on a holy number like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a myth, God dammit.
- JRJelly Roll
No.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Yeah. …
- JRJelly Roll
figured out that I, that, that overeating for me wasn't a failure of a discipline. I'm a pretty disciplined guy. It was just a, a biological thing I hadn't learned how to interrupt. I'd been doing it my whole life. It had been my constant go-to for stress. It had been, it was everywhere all the time. (sniffs) I was eating for... I had to start figuring out what I was actually hungry for, you know? Like, when we talk about obesity, Joe, there's groups. (sniffs) Like, if you're 340 pounds here, 330 pounds here, you know, it's po- depending on your height, of course, you might be dealing with a discipline issue. Maybe you just like extra food. We can make small changes and get that off. You start getting over 300, 320, you start, that starts being morbid obesity. Like, there starts to be a real thing there, you know? (sniffs) And I'm seeing it more now because I talk to 10s, 20s of guys that are over 500 pounds that have reached out to me like, "Please, what is this magic, Yoda?" You know what I mean?
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJelly Roll
I'm like, I'm like, "Consistency's the magic." But one, once I realized why I was eating 80, 80... Here, here's the note I took from therapy. I had, I took, had my wife translate all my notes from, uh, when I was out there. (sniffs) And it goes change, uh, uh, y- first of all, you change the way you think and talk, but 'cause 80 to 90% of compulsive eating happens between the ears, not the teeth. So the average obese person that's that big, and I learned this from her, is that they're only eating 20% of what they're thinking about eating. This is an all-day loop that's in a, in a, in your head. It's like a drug addiction. (sniffs) You know, I used to walk in, um... Me and Schults laughed about this. I used to walk in rooms and scan. Like, I would walk in a room like the predator. Like, I would, I would do one thing like the Terminator and be able to look you in the eye and be like, "There's a bottle of Snickers on that counter."
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJelly Roll
"There's two M&Ms over here. They have some Lay's potato chips over there." Like, I knew my way.
- NANarrator
It was mostly sugar?
- JRJelly Roll
All sugar. (sniffs) Me and you were talking about-
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJelly Roll
... dude, sugar, well, processed food. I, I didn't... You know how they said g- uh, so Gary was like, "Get on a keto diet or a whole food diet at first." And I was like, "I don't think I eat whole foods now at all anyways. I think I just eat processed foods with maybe protein in it." You know, I mean, I don't... Dude, I haven't ate a piece of bread except for Thanksgiving in two years. Joe, I was color blind. We talked about this.
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJelly Roll
I was-
- NANarrator
This is a crazy story.
- JRJelly Roll
This is a true story, Joe.
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJelly Roll
I, my wife will tell you, this is, she laughs about it now, but I couldn't see... I seen shades of colors, like, uh, general concepts, but, like, hunter green, emerald green, like, what? Green is green to me. I never realized there was nuances and prettiness and that some were brighter and toned different. I just seen them like shades. (sniffs) So bad that, like, that's why I wore black. Johnny Cash was a lot of it, but too, you know, I'd always have to ask people does my shoes match?
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJelly Roll
You know, I was always off. Dude, I'd say nine months into no sugar, I start, I think, I forgot what it was, but it was a plant at our house. And I come outside and I grab my wife and I go, "Dude, how long have we had that pretty purple tulip there?" Or whatever it was. And she goes, "What?" I was like, "That is the prettiest purple plant I've ever seen." She was like, "You've walked by that plant for two years. What are you talking about?" I was like, "There's no way we've had a plant that pretty I didn't notice it for two years." It was bright purple, Joe. I mean, it was screaming Holy Rogue purple. And then slowly, I started looking around the next few days, and o- over the next months, I was like, "I'm seeing clear color."I couldn't quit talking about it. I bought coloring books. My wife was laughing.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JRJelly Roll
This bitch used to have to give me a tie to match to go to court. You know what I'm saying? And I'm in there coloring. You know what I'm saying? She's like, "What are you doing?" I was like, "You wanna color?" And I go, I've d- I've got, like, 300 coloring pencil sets.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JRJelly Roll
I was in a g- I was at a deer blind with Cam Hane talking his face off about a bird yesterday. He goes, "I didn't know you like birds like that." I was just, "I like color." He was like, "Really?" I was like, "Yeah, I didn't see color for, like, 20 years." (laughs) I was like, "It is awesome."
- JRJoe Rogan
That is so... I would never-
- JRJelly Roll
It had to have been the sugar.
- JRJoe Rogan
Must have been. It must have been just rampant inflammation through your whole body, massive lack of nutrients.
- JRJelly Roll
It was-
- JRJoe Rogan
And your body probably was like, "Fuck colors, let's just keep this dude alive."
- JRJelly Roll
That's it. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JRJelly Roll
Yeah, fuck colors, just keep him alive. Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
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- 30:00 – 45:00
Right, right. …
- JRJelly Roll
protein in this or can I only eat half of it?" And not because I have the, the weird relationship with food otherways. Now I'm just really feeding myself for what I need.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right.
- JRJelly Roll
You know what I mean? Like I'm actually have a healthy relationship with food now, Joe. Like I look at... And it's not unhealthy in a way that was like if you cooked a big steak right now, like, "You want one?" I'd be like, "Yeah, absolutely. I don't wanna miss a belk steak with Joe. I'm down." I'm not weird. If we went to dinner, I'd eat. You know what I mean? I just wouldn't eat bread.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JRJelly Roll
There's just certain things I haven't abs-... It's like a drug addict thing for me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- JRJelly Roll
It's like I... There's just certain things I just can't do no matter what.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JRJelly Roll
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
The bread is the one. Bread and pasta are the one.... why does it have to be the ones that are so goddamn delicious?
- JRJelly Roll
All the good stuff, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- JRJelly Roll
All the good stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
So delicious.
- JRJelly Roll
But, um, I learned how to make all the good stuff better, by the way. Like, not better, but Larios is really... So, a lot of my weight loss has come from, like, I used to always hear you say that you got into podcasting and talking to people about stuff you were just interested in.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- JRJelly Roll
Like, conversations you just thought were cool. And then I thought about, that's, like, the approach to life. You know what I mean? It's like, get, like, dig it, do it, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right.
- JRJelly Roll
Find, draw inspiration from there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right.
- JRJelly Roll
So I was watching-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a great... Dig it, do it. That's it.
- JRJelly Roll
You dig it, do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's it.
- JRJelly Roll
You know, dig it, do it. And I was watching UFC one night, which I'm a fan too, and I was, this was six years ago, and, uh, I was like, "I wonder who's helping these guys get on the scale?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- JRJelly Roll
You know what I mean? I was like, most of these fighters are poor. Not in a bad way, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, struggling.
- JRJelly Roll
They're coming up. I was like, "I bet, I bet I could pay equal pay." This was six years ago.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Yeah, there's something to…
- JRJelly Roll
medicine.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, there's something to it. I mean, that sounds-
- JRJelly Roll
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
...hokey and new-agey, but I'm telling you, man, if I don't get my time in in the woods at least a couple times a year, three t- And I really wanna do it way more often, I just can't. I just... I'm just too busy. But it's... It empties all the bullshit out of my life. The mountains don't give a fuck what's going on in, in your life or how many likes your last fucking social media post got or who's upset at you. They, they don't care, you know? The, the mountains are the mountains. Those animals don't give a fuck if you just won the Grammy, you know? They don't give a shit. "Oh, Jelly Roll's here. Let me offer him my vitals." (laughs)
- JRJelly Roll
(laughs) Like, no sir, not the case at all.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, there's, there's no charisma out there. There's no cult of personality. There's no... It's all... It's just wild, and it's beautiful.
- JRJelly Roll
You always been a outdoorsman?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. I, I used to fish when I was a kid. I used to really love fishing. And, um, you know, then I'd... I got away from all of it for a long time, until, uh, Rinella took me hunting, and that's when I got that mule deer, that one that's sitting on the table right there. That was the first animal I ever shot.
- JRJelly Roll
A bow or rifle?
- JRJoe Rogan
Rifle. That was a rifle. And then Cam took me on my first hunt with a bow. I got a black bear.
- JRJelly Roll
That was your first hunt as a bear?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh. Yeah.
- JRJelly Roll
God. I'm trying to get him to take me to one of those in May.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's good. Uh, it's-
- JRJelly Roll
And I wanna do elk next year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, bear is a good one, because first of all, it's scary, you know, which I think is good. And, uh... (laughs)
- JRJelly Roll
Dude, that's fucking flipping me out, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
And there's something about eating a bear that's just wild. It's just... It feels-
- JRJelly Roll
'Cause they're kinda fatty, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Feels crazy. It... Yeah, well, not that bad. I mean, they, they definitely have a lot of fat on 'em. They taste good. They ta-
- JRJelly Roll
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a big misconception. I mean, I've never eaten a grizzly bear, which I've heard are pretty rough, but my friend Ryan Callahan just shot a grizzly bear and he says it's delicious. Um, I think i- the thing about a bear that's a little daunting for a lot of people is trichinosis. And, uh, you have to cook a bear, like, a hundred and... I think the... I think the number is 160. I think that's what it is, where you, you know, you gotta make sure that that meat is 160 degrees, you know, so you don't get any parasites. 'Cause trichinosis is rough.
- JRJelly Roll
God, I can't believe your first b- bow hunt was a bear. I'm on my first bow hunt as we speak.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JRJelly Roll
And it's for a deer. And I could... I definitely... I need to do this if I'm gonna see a bear.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's-
- JRJelly Roll
I am out there, b- I mean, stomach in, uh, uh, heart in stomach, stomach in pants the whole way out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I think Cam took me, um, bear hunting because, uh, in Alberta, the way they do it, uh, it's, uh, they do it over bait. So they, um, they set out oats and they use beaver carcasses and all these different things so the animals... And people are like, "Oh, that's cheating." Listen, there's no other way to find these animals in Alberta. They're... You're talking about dense forest, dense forest that looks like a box of Q-tips. Like, you can't see shit out there. They're... You're not gonna find them before they see you coming or hear you coming or smell you coming. There's n- There's... If you wanna hunt them, you have to use bait or you have to use dogs and, you know, that's how they used to hunt them in a lot of places. They used to, you know, tree 'em with dogs, then people would shoot 'em. And people are like, "Well, that's horrible too," but there's... You have to control their populations. If you understand wildlife biology and wildlife management, you, you must control the populations of predators. And then, you know, like John and Jen up in Alberta where they took me, they know how to cook bear, like really good. J- Jen is an excellent cook, and she, she'll cook a bear roast and she rubs it down, put it... puts it in a Traeger and they'll slow cook it for 12 hours and-
- JRJelly Roll
Oh, they're smoking the bear. Was it the bear you killed?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my God.
- 1:00:00 – 1:04:40
He looks like a…
- JRJelly Roll
- JRJoe Rogan
He looks like a cactus.
- JRJelly Roll
He looks like Cactus Jack.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- JRJelly Roll
Yeah, Jim Nance Garner.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- JRJelly Roll
Yeah, he was a lawyer, longtime congressman. Uh, he was the one who tried to make the cactus as, uh, the state flower of Texas.
- JRJoe Rogan
State flower, wow.
- JRJelly Roll
Yeah. Who was the vice president? Roosevelt, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"The effort failed in favor of the bluebonnet, but Cactus Jack moniker stuck with him throughout his long political career."
- JRJelly Roll
So-
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- JRJelly Roll
So when he opened this place, uh, I g- how many years ago, the guy who bought it from him was super excited to tell you. He told me the story last week how gangster that is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like has the c-... (laughs)
- JRJelly Roll
That's Cactus Jack, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
The cigar with two pistols. (laughs)
- JRJelly Roll
Ugh. We could never get away with that right now in politics. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I know, right?
- JRJelly Roll
Um, but Cactus Jack, he's, uh... But the ranch is great. The guy who owns it, Mr. Jerry, was telling me the history of it last night. They kept true Texas deer genetics. A lot of the Texas ranches will have import genetics.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- JRJelly Roll
And he was like, "Cactus Jack was big about making this a tried and true Texas ranch." And he's- he is dead set on dying by keeping it that way, this guy Jerry that owns it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's like, especially South Texas, hunting white-tailed deer is like a religion.
- JRJelly Roll
It's a religion to them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's a big thing for those folks. They-
- JRJelly Roll
Big deal.
- JRJoe Rogan
And to, to grow big deer down there and to make sure that you manage the genetics correctly, like you don't shoot any animal that's under, like, six or seven years old. And...
- JRJelly Roll
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And there's a place that I hunt in, uh, Utah that does that with elk.... it's like they... Uh, uh, a really well-managed place does that. They make sure. 'Cause, like, there's some places where, (smacks lips) i- when they have hunting season, everybody just goes out into the woods, kids get a day off school, and they shoot everything they can. Which is great. You get meat, it's great. But the problem is, if you want very impressive animals that are mature, which is al- also better for the entire genetics of the herd, because these are the m- the animals that have lived a full life, they've spread their genes, and then you shoot them-
- JRJelly Roll
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... at the end, at the end of their life. So they've had a long, full... And by the way, when you're getting an animal that's seven, eight, nine years old, (inhales sharply) they really don't have much time left-
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