Joe Rogan Experience #2430 - Jay Anderson

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience. (drumming music)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) We're live. What's happening, man?

   4. JAJay Anderson0:13

      What's up, bro?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Very nice to meet you.

   6. JAJay Anderson0:14

      Hey, it's great to meet you as well, Joe. I, uh, really, really appreciate you taking me out here.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Oh, my pleasure. I've enjoyed your content for quite a while now, so it's really fun.

   8. JAJay Anderson0:22

      Well, I'd be interested to know when was it that you first started getting interested in what I was doing? What kind of subject, what topic?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      I wish I remembered. Um-

   10. JAJay Anderson0:30

       'Cause I know you've followed me for a couple years.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Yeah.

   12. JAJay Anderson0:31

       It was before the Khafre Pyramid scans and stuff.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Mm-hmm. Yeah.

   14. JAJay Anderson0:34

       Like, you know I'm into the UFO subject and things like that, but I wasn't sure what-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Well, it's all the silly shit that I love (laughs) .

   16. JAJay Anderson0:41

       (laughs) I hear you, bro.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Silly and serious at the same time. Ancient civilizations, mysteries, and obviously aliens.

   18. JAJay Anderson0:47

       Oh, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Yeah.

   20. JAJay Anderson0:47

       And it's all cotangent, it all connects together, that's the thing.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       I think so too. We actually played a clip. Uh, we had did a podcast yesterday with, uh, Dr. Michael Masters.

   22. JAJay Anderson0:56

       Love him, yeah. I've talked to him a couple times.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Yeah, he- he was very fun, very smart guy, very interesting guy. But we played, uh, we were talking about the p- he has a theory that aliens are human beings in the future.

   24. JAJay Anderson1:07

       Mm-hmm, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       It's a very strange theory, um-

   26. JAJay Anderson1:10

       Based on like kind of the anthropological-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JAJay Anderson1:12

       ... view and the physiology and how that might've happened over time.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       And there's also, what did, what was the model? There's the many worlds theory, and then the, what was his model? There's a different one that, the- the concept is you could, if you lived in the future, you could go back in time and it would not affect the future 'cause everything that's supposed to happen has already happened.

   30. JAJay Anderson1:30

       Right, right.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Bro, this is mad.…

   1. JAJay Anderson15:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Bro, this is mad. (laughs)

   3. JAJay Anderson15:00

      Yeah. Like this was... D- dude, this was like one little ten-second clip in his documentary.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      (gasps)

   5. JAJay Anderson15:05

      It just made me perk up like, "Wait a minute, what?"

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      The name of the place is like a laboratory of insemination and cloning.

   7. JAJay Anderson15:12

      And they're getting a smorgasbord of different beings coming out of this area, right? Like...

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      What?

   9. NANarrator15:17

      Jesse does add, I think he's speculating somewhat on the etymology, not definitive, but-

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       Oh, of course.

   11. JAJay Anderson15:22

       Right, right, right.

   12. NANarrator15:23

       ... interesting.

   13. JAJay Anderson15:23

       But yeah, I mean, it's there and it's-

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:25

       That's why Jesse's better at this than me.

   15. JAJay Anderson15:26

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:26

       I'm like, "It's clear."

   17. JAJay Anderson15:27

       Or it's done. It's settled.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       The proof is there.

   19. JAJay Anderson15:30

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       Wow. That is so nuts.

   21. JAJay Anderson15:31

       But it is interesting. Yeah, it is interesting. And I think it does, you know, leads into what was happening on this planet a long time ago.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       It does and it leads to like... My, my point was when I was getting to the whole-

   23. JAJay Anderson15:43

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       ... super volcano thing.

   25. JAJay Anderson15:44

       Yeah, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       What if something happened that wiped that species out?

   27. JAJay Anderson15:47

       Right, right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       Like clearly there's no more Neanderthals, right?

   29. JAJay Anderson15:50

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       We, they... Whatever happened, whether it was us or disease or whatever killed them off, they don't exist anymore. We only have evidence that people interbred with them. What i- what is that thing? Is that thing maybe one of us, like another kind of human? L- look, another kind of primate? You know, look how different we are than rhesus monkeys, right?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Well, this is, uh-…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      they would possibly use these shafts to pour chemicals in and it would create gases and...

   2. JAJay Anderson30:06

      Well, this is, uh-

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      It's pretty nuts.

   4. JAJay Anderson30:07

      ... it, it is nuts. But, you know, I was ... When I was, uh ... Not the last time I was out in Egypt, but the time before then, I was out there with a guy called Geoffrey Drumm. Uh, he's got a YouTube channel called The Land of Chem, and he's all about this, in terms of the chemical mass manufacturing that he believes was going on in the pyramids and these other areas. And, uh, it ... We filmed all of the, uh, all of the coverage of that, if anyone wants to go and see it on our E- on my YouTube channel. Um, taking us through areas in the Giza plateau where you have an incredible concentration, on the Giza plateau, of iron veins, and they all seem to be emanating from the pyramids. So, if you go around the pyramids, you'll see these iron vein networks that are flowing out from the central point, and these iron veins are heading down into what are called these boat pits, in-

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:49

      When you say iron veins, so like, like-

   6. JAJay Anderson30:51

      Like iron ore. Iron-

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:52

      Iron ore.

   8. JAJay Anderson30:53

      Yeah, iron ore.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:53

      And is it ... It's not on the surface. It's deep in the ground?

   10. JAJay Anderson30:56

       I mean, there's some on the surface, so you can actually see the snaking kind of veins of iron that's kind of rusted out and oxidized, and you can, you can make it out, but, um, m- surely it must be deeper as well. But it seems to be stretching out from the pyramids down into these, um-

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:08

       Like it's emanating from the pyramids?

   12. JAJay Anderson31:10

       Well, it ... So his theory is that they built the pyram-

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       Okay. We're going deep here.

   14. JAJay Anderson31:13

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       Okay?

   16. JAJay Anderson31:13

       His the- his theory is that they built the pyramids on top of these iron veins, particularly because this place was getting lightning strikes, uh, frequently.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       Oh, boy.

   18. JAJay Anderson31:21

       And that they were using y-

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       (laughs)

   20. JAJay Anderson31:22

       Yeah, I know. I know. I know.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       It's a giant lightning rod.

   22. JAJay Anderson31:26

       Dude, I mean, these things are built in a way, and they were gold-capped at one point, like highly conductive.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:31

       Right. And gold is a really good conductor. Right?

   24. JAJay Anderson31:33

       Conductor of electricity.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       That's why they like it for electronics.

   26. JAJay Anderson31:35

       And the Giza plateau is covered in these conductive iron vein networks, which the pyramids do seem to be built upon. Now, this is, you know, his personal theory, but he- you know, he's an American who's been living out in Cairo now for about six or seven years, I believe. He's been ... He just decided to up and, uh, move out there and dedicate his life to exploring these places. And so he took us across, uh, you know, all of these amazing areas and, and showed us things that I'd never seen before in Egypt. Um, but his theory on, on the, on the pyramids, uh, is similar to Christopher Dunn in terms of some form chemical manufacturing taking place and ... If you know, um, the original name for Egypt was Kemet, that's why this guy has got his YouTube channel The Land of Chem. Kemet is the beginning of chemistry and alchemy, so this is whe- uh, one of the root words where we then got chemistry and alchemy from. So, it is the land of chemistry and alchemy, and, uh, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:23

       That's bananas.

   28. JAJay Anderson32:26

       There you go. Is this, uh-

   29. NANarrator32:28

       Yeah, it's from his videos.

   30. JAJay Anderson32:29

       Oh, this is one of his videos. Great, so-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   So, so this guy,…

   1. JAJay Anderson45:00

      Russia that a, uh... (laughs) they were, they were in the rec room of this, like, air force base, and apparently (laughs) , this is according to, uh, this, uh, Russian astronaut trainer at the Yuri Gagarin Space Center in Moscow, and he said that, uh, this, uh, this yeti Sasquatch-type being apparently just waltzed in, like, just walked into their rec room, helped itself to some water from the water, uh, thing, waved, and then vanished. I don't know.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:32

      So, so this guy, what was his job?

   3. JAJay Anderson45:33

      He was a trainer of astronauts at the Yuri Gagarin Space Center in Star City, Moscow.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:38

      Bro, they probably dosed him up with so many-

   5. JAJay Anderson45:40

      I bet they did.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:41

      ... fucking MKUltra drugs.

   7. JAJay Anderson45:42

      Yeah, yeah. I mean, if you, you're holding onto that kind of information-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:45

      It's an interesting story.

   9. JAJay Anderson45:46

      ... they would probably experiment on you.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

   11. JAJay Anderson45:48

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       Yeah.

   13. JAJay Anderson45:49

       They probably gave that guy some medicine- Oh, I, I never saw Bigfoot.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       ... and he said Bigfoot was.

   15. JAJay Anderson45:51

       I've never given the, the Sasquatch thing its, uh, its due course in, in researching it, to be honest. I've been very dismissive of that. But maybe it's real.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       Oh, I have.

   17. JAJay Anderson45:58

       I mean, maybe, you know, I mean, like, the p-

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       I have.

   19. JAJay Anderson46:00

       ... the demographic behind it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       I spent years with... I used to have a Sasquatch, Bigfoot footprint, like a cast-

   21. JAJay Anderson46:05

       Oh, yeah?

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       ... like a plaster cast on the desk-

   23. JAJay Anderson46:07

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:08

       ... that, uh, rest in peace Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum-

   25. JAJay Anderson46:10

       Nice.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       ... he just recently died.

   27. JAJay Anderson46:11

       Uh-huh.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       I had him on the, as a guest on the show once too. He's a, he's so crazy. I told him, I asked him if he was so crazy-

   29. JAJay Anderson46:18

       Uh-huh.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       ... but in a wonderful way.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:47

   What was that? What…

   1. JAJay Anderson1:00:00

      incredible influx of what look and behave like satellites, but just at an incredibly high level where it's just like, "Wha- what, what's going on here?" And it just felt like a, a kinda step-by-step progression until in August of 2019, I had four incredibly vivid and real experiences with orange orbs of light...... um, really profound.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      What was that? What happened?

   3. JAJay Anderson1:00:24

      So, I was outside. At this point, it'd become my routine. It was in the summer of August, and it was relatively warm, so I was out doing this quite a lot, seeing little flashes, seeing things in the sky, trying to figure out what exactly it was that I was seeing. And, um, I was standing at the back of my garden, looking towards my house, night sky crystal clear, and, uh, I saw, at the beginning, a flash of light in, in the corner of the sky. So I looked over and I saw this flash, another flash, another flash, and it was just blinking, but it was static in space. And then, it started moving down. Every time it blinked, it would move further down. And I was observing this, and then it settled above two stars and kind of created the, the apex of a triangle, and it was just flashing above these two stars. And I was watching this for a while, and it happened for long enough where I just decided, "All right, I'm just ... Thank you, whatever you are. I'm just gonna keep panning around the sky here and looking around." And as I pan my head, I saw that there was a, a cloud, but I didn't really look at it and I turn around here, come back, and I see this cloud again. And this time, I really look at it, and this cloud, Joe, had (laughs) s- so strange. It's like a dark cloud, um, but when you stared at it, it had a staticky appearance. It, it, it's very hard to describe other than imagine a, a light overlay of TV static. There was particles. It was agitated. It was shimmering. It was some- some- not a cloud. Like, certainly not anything I've ever seen in my life. And if we pretend this microphone is my house, and this cloud is here, it's drifting this way. So eventually, it's gonna drift past my house and go this way, at least according to its natural trajectory. It gets (laughs) to my house, and it does a right angle turn, and it starts coming towards me. So eventually, it's gonna be above my head, this cloud-like formation.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:02:15

      A cloud does a right angle turn in the sky?

   5. JAJay Anderson1:02:17

      Abrupt, as in 90 degrees. It's going like this, and now it's going like this towards you. High up in the sky, but it's now i- in my path, complete 90-degree shift from its trajectory. And I saw it, like a jarring bloop. Now it's going this way. Okay, so at this point, I'm rooted in place. I'm not really scared, but I'm shocked at the fact that this thing did what it just did. And I'm watching as it's coming closer and closer, uh, uh, you know, towards where I'm gonna be. Eventually, it's directly above my head. It sounds so crazy, and you know, Terrence McKenna said something like this. He was like, "You know, if, if you tell the un- unvarnished truth about a UFO experience, you'll be taken for a fool." (laughs) And it's like, it's true, you know?

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:02:59

      Yeah.

   7. JAJay Anderson1:02:59

      If you, if you just tell people what really happened, but this is what really happened. So this cloud comes above my head. As it's directly above my head, this cloud sh- like, sucked into itself as if there was a central vacuum, a central point where it just got sucked into itself, and it revealed a triangle formation of about 25, maybe 30 orange orbs of light in a triangle. And this triangle, basically the cloud went shoop. Triangle was revealed. It kept moving. I had to turn around and watch as it went off in this direction. And as I was watching it, I could see that some of these orbs were actually swapping formations, swapping position in this formation. And that was the first time I saw them. I saw them three other occasions, all within the space of a month after this. Weirdly enough, I woke up the next day, and this is the only element of the story, as crazy as the whole thing sounds, it's the only element that makes me personally uncomfortable. Um, I was getting out of the shower, and as I was drying myself off, immediately, immediately noticed where this tattoo is now, there was a triangle mark of three red, three red marks, one here, one here, one here. Uh, very vivid, like in, like, the mo-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:04:18

      And you covered it up with a tattoo?

   9. JAJay Anderson1:04:20

      (laughs) Well, it faded. It faded over time.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:04:23

       Did you take any pictures of it?

   11. JAJay Anderson1:04:23

       I have taken pictures of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:04:25

       Is it clear?

   13. JAJay Anderson1:04:26

       Yes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:04:26

       Can I- can I see it?

   15. JAJay Anderson1:04:27

       Uh, I- I can try and find them, yeah. I haven't got my internet on right now. Um, Jamie, if you go onto my X account-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:04:35

       Yep.

   17. JAJay Anderson1:04:35

       ... and just type in, uh, "Jay Anderson marks on arm," maybe that will come up. I'm sorry. I should've really sent that ahead of time, but I do have images online. People have seen them, and I've discussed it many times, um-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:04:48

       Did it look like a wound?

   19. JAJay Anderson1:04:50

       This is the thing, so-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:04:51

       Did it look like a tattoo?

   21. JAJay Anderson1:04:52

       So, three red marks. No bump, no scab, no itching, no feeling of discomfort. There was a slight shine to them, as if it was almost like a healed-over burn. And this was very vivid. It didn't dissipate for over a year. It was on my arm for about a year before it faded away, eventually faded away, and then I got home. Here's Trismegistus tattooed on my arm (laughs) .

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:05:18

       Shoo.

   23. JAJay Anderson1:05:18

       But, uh, um, uh, weirdly enough, I got this tattoo and then got invited to Egypt, uh, weirdly.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:05:23

       (laughs)

   25. JAJay Anderson1:05:24

       But yeah, I had these experiences. Um, I had another experience where they came down and hovered above my house.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:05:31

       Can I ask you this? So these orbs-

   27. JAJay Anderson1:05:32

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:05:33

       Uh, there's-

   29. JAJay Anderson1:05:34

       There you go. There you go.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:05:35

       Wow.

Episode duration: 2:51:16