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75 min read · 15,003 wordsBackpacker comic friends, Protect Our Parks, and Joe’s new relationship with alcohol
Narrator 0:00 (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.
Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)
Shane Gillis 0:12 Joe Rogan, he went down there to visit him.
Joe Rogan 0:14 He's having a good old time, I'm sure. He loves doing that. (sniffs) Just fucking-
Shane Gillis 0:18 Wish it didn't piss me off.
Joe Rogan 0:20 It pisses you off that he, that he just checks out?
Shane Gillis 0:23 (laughs) Yeah.
Joe Rogan 0:23 What pisses you off?
Shane Gillis 0:25 I don't know. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 0:25 I love it. I love that he does it.
Shane Gillis 0:27 (laughs) No, it's just art. It's fun to...
Joe Rogan 0:28 But it's more, like the more successful he gets, the more dangerous it is. It's like, he, people know who you are, b- dude. You've been seen by millions of people.
Shane Gillis 0:35 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 0:35 You can't pretend you're this, like anonymous backpacker anymore.
Shane Gillis 0:39 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 0:40 You fucking weirdo. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 0:41 He comes back. Th- my favorite was a couple years, or like when he came back from Peru, we were doing Legion of Skanks and he was like, in the crowd and thought it was going to be like a big surprise that he's back. He like, came back and we were like, "Oh, what's up? Oh, are you sure?"
Joe Rogan 0:53 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 0:54 (laughs) He's like-
Joe Rogan 0:54 What are you talking about? He'll be like-
Shane Gillis 0:55 He's like, "Guys, you haven't seen me in so long." It's like, "I don't see any of my friends."
Joe Rogan 0:58 Yeah, you were saying like-
Shane Gillis 0:58 Yeah, it's like, "Bro, I forgot-"
Joe Rogan 0:59 ... "I see everybody every six months."
Shane Gillis 1:00 "... I forgot you left." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 1:01 Right. I only see Norman every six months.
Shane Gillis 1:04 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:04 Maybe, maybe a little more when we, we get popping with Protect Our Parks.
Shane Gillis 1:08 Bro, it's not the same without them.
Joe Rogan 1:10 I know it's not. Something's missing.
Shane Gillis 1:13 I'm still gonna get drunk, but...
Joe Rogan 1:15 It's a little sad though.
Shane Gillis 1:16 (laughs) It's a little more pathetic. I'm drinking by myself. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 1:21 It's a little s- (laughs) It's a little more sad. I've had a few drinks. (swallows) I had-
Shane Gillis 1:25 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:25 ... a whiskey before a show recently. I had a couple glasses of wine with dinner the other day, but it's the most I've had is two. But the days of like drinking at night-
Shane Gillis 1:36 I thought I had you.
Joe Rogan 1:36 Ugh.
Shane Gillis 1:36 I thought I had you last time we were at the Mother Ship.
Joe Rogan 1:37 It's, the problem is health.
Shane Gillis 1:40 Yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 1:40 I- I'm too interested in health.
Shane Gillis 1:42 Yeah, obviously. Yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 1:42 I know, that's the problem. It's like the, the price you pay is legitimate.
Shane Gillis 1:47 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:47 And um, I'm too interested in health. You know? I- I do too much to stay healthy.
Shane Gillis 1:53 You work too hard, dude.
Aging math, staying fit late in life, and dramatic weight-loss examples
Joe Rogan 1:54 You get... I'm getting old, dude, right? I'm 58. The, the reality is like, when was the last time you saw a really fit 78-year-old guy? 78 years for me is not that far. That's-
Shane Gillis 2:07 Trump, Trump's jacked.
Joe Rogan 2:08 Ah.
Shane Gillis 2:09 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 2:09 Bro, that's 2005, okay? 2005 when I was still doing Fear Factor. That's 20 years ago.
Shane Gillis 2:17 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 2:17 That's nothing. (snaps fingers) That's like that. It, time just flies by. All of a sudden you're 78.
Shane Gillis 2:22 You're my age.
Joe Rogan 2:23 Yeah, exactly.
Shane Gillis 2:24 Damn.
Joe Rogan 2:25 Yeah, exactly. How old are you now?
Shane Gillis 2:28 I'm th- I just turned 38.
Joe Rogan 2:29 Yeah, see? So think of that.
Shane Gillis 2:31 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 2:32 That's 20 years difference. You to me is 20 years.
Shane Gillis 2:35 Okay.
Joe Rogan 2:35 But me to like, a dead guy is 20 years.
Shane Gillis 2:38 (laughs) Yeah.
Joe Rogan 2:38 (laughs) Like 78-year-old guy is a dead guy.
Shane Gillis 2:41 (laughs) Yeah. There's the difference. (laughs) Yeah.
Joe Rogan 2:43 So I've been uh, consciously thinking about that. Like, don't let it get away from you. That's the thing. Don't let it get away from you. Like look at Jelly Roll.
Shane Gillis 2:54 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 2:55 Fucking insane. Incredible.
Shane Gillis 2:57 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 2:58 That dude just added decades onto his life.
Shane Gillis 3:00 Oh, for sure. He was-
Joe Rogan 3:01 Decade. He was on his way out.
Shane Gillis 3:03 He was close.
Joe Rogan 3:04 He was on his way out.
Shane Gillis 3:04 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 3:05 40, 500-
Shane Gillis 3:06 Sam Talent?
Joe Rogan 3:06 ... 40 pounds. Yeah.
Shane Gillis 3:07 Sam Talent dropped it too.
Joe Rogan 3:09 Did he?
Shane Gillis 3:09 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 3:10 How much did he drop?
Shane Gillis 3:11 A fucking ton.
Joe Rogan 3:11 Oh, no shit.
Shane Gillis 3:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan 3:12 I haven't seen him.
Shane Gillis 3:13 Well, I think he did... I don't want to speak for him. I think he took one of the things, like it was epi.
Joe Rogan 3:17 Fine, man.
Shane Gillis 3:18 And I was like, "Man."
Joe Rogan 3:18 What do you need, whatever you need to do.
Shane Gillis 3:19 I was like, "Bro, just what are you doing?" And he was like, "I was gonna die." I was like, "All right, fair."
Sleep apnea: choking, mouthpieces, CPAP horror stories, and hotel-room realities
Joe Rogan 3:24 Yeah. You get too big and then he probably has sleep apnea, so he ain't getting any sleep. So at night he's choking, you know, and you're lying in bed in these weird hotel rooms.
Shane Gillis 3:34 (laughs) Yeah.
Joe Rogan 3:34 And Sam Her- uh, Sam Tal-
Shane Gillis 3:35 I'm going out from sleep apnea (laughs) for sure, bro. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 3:38 Bro, I have to wear a mouthpiece every night.
Shane Gillis 3:40 It's crazy, yeah.
Joe Rogan 3:40 I wear a mouthpiece every night. I found a great pillow too. You think it's pillow?
Shane Gillis 3:44 Do you think it hurts to die from sleep apnea?
Joe Rogan 3:46 Uh, no, you just choke. You stop breathing, and that's it. It's a wrap. Probably doesn't hurt at all. You probably just go in your sleep.
Shane Gillis 3:54 Yeah, so what the fuck?
Joe Rogan 3:54 I don't... It's not the one of the worst ways to go.
Shane Gillis 3:56 What are we talking about here?
Joe Rogan 3:57 Listen-
Shane Gillis 3:57 Let it ride.
Joe Rogan 3:58 It's just the problem is you're going way too young. It's, you're going because someone's killing you and that, that someone's you.
Shane Gillis 4:04 Yeah, but...
Joe Rogan 4:06 See-
Shane Gillis 4:06 (laughs) Hold on, hold on.
Joe Rogan 4:07 ... a lot of football players get it.
Shane Gillis 4:09 Yeah, no. Yeah.
Joe Rogan 4:09 Yeah, because they have-
Shane Gillis 4:10 I think Reggie White died from it.
Joe Rogan 4:10 They have giant necks.
Shane Gillis 4:12 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 4:12 So the giant neck, when you're having all this stuff here, it's kind of closing in. (chokes) And then you get this big fucking head and this big ass tongue, and it just falls over that hole.
Shane Gillis 4:22 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 4:22 And you just slip into darkness.
Shane Gillis 4:26 Now you talking my language.
Joe Rogan 4:27 Well, listen, for a lot of those guys, uh, it's all preventable. You know, you could sleep with a CPAP machine, which sucks.
Shane Gillis 4:34 Dude, my dad, my dad has a sleep apnea machine and he, uh-
Joe Rogan 4:38 (sighs)
Shane Gillis 4:38 ... he doesn't fucking clean it. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 4:40 Oh, no.
Shane Gillis 4:40 So he, he gets like-
Joe Rogan 4:42 Oh.
Shane Gillis 4:42 ... eye infections. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 4:44 Oh, Joe. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 4:45 You just see him.
Joe Rogan 4:47 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 4:47 He shows up with double pink eye. You're like, "Yo, what the fuck?" (laughs)
Joe Rogan 4:52 (laughs) Bro, I tried that thing once, one time.
Shane Gillis 4:54 How do you sleep with that?
Joe Rogan 4:56 Can't. Can't do it. I c- I can't sleep with a lot of noise. I want to be able to wake up quick. I wake up quick.
Shane Gillis 5:03 That's funny.
Joe Rogan 5:04 I'm one of those wake up guys, like if my wife grabs me, she'll, like if she has to wake me up-
Shane Gillis 5:09 With a knife, just...
Joe Rogan 5:09 ... she has to like be kind of, you know, ready that I don't grab her.
Shane Gillis 5:13 Really?
Joe Rogan 5:13 Yeah. I- I don't know why I've always w- woken up like that. So I don't want any noise.
Shane Gillis 5:18 I listen to noise when I sleep, and then I- I have that thought though, it's like if somebody breaks in.
Joe Rogan 5:22 I want to hear everything.
Shane Gillis 5:23 Sure.
Joe Rogan 5:24 Well, this is like, I used to always have a lot of dangerous dogs. I used to have like multiple pit bulls. I used to have-
Shane Gillis 5:31 I got a mare.
Joe Rogan 5:31 I, oh yeah. (laughs) You got a mare.
Shane Gillis 5:34 (laughs) I got a mare.
Joe Rogan 5:34 You got a mare.
Shane Gillis 5:34 Me, me, me and him both with sleep apnea.
Joe Rogan 5:36 But it's, I wanted, I always wanted things to be awake that would bark if like something-
Shane Gillis 5:42 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 5:42 ... was at the door. Like it, lea- living by yourself in Hollywood, I never lived in Hollywood, but I lived in North Hollywood and then I lived in Encino and then I moved further out. I kept, just kept moving further and further out.
Shane Gillis 5:52 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 5:52 I even thought about Santa Barbara. I'm like, "Why don't I get a big piece of property on Santa Barbara, get the fuck away from everybody." But like, I don't want a machine going... (growling and screaming)
Shane Gillis 6:06 ... yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 6:06 You can't, you're not hearing shit. I would f- be paranoid. I'd be feeling weird.
Shane Gillis 6:11 I, I think when you hit, like, machine time, it's like, "Dude, I hope someone breaks in here."
Joe Rogan 6:16 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 6:16 (laughs) Like, who gives a fuck, dude?
Joe Rogan 6:20 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 6:21 He... You ever get... I got... I've, I've gotten sleep ap... I get sleep apnea when I'm hungover. That's when I get it.
Joe Rogan 6:27 Right.
Shane Gillis 6:27 Like, uh, uh, and-
Joe Rogan 6:29 Do you sleep on your side?
Shane Gillis 6:30 ... I've got it... I've got it on my, uh, planes. I'm waking myself up, like... (snores)
Joe Rogan 6:33 Of course.
Shane Gillis 6:33 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 6:34 Damn, so embarrassing. I had to wake this dude up. And not wake this dude up, but tell him once. We were, we were on a long flight, like, g- going to Europe or something. And this poor dude was choking so bad.
Shane Gillis 6:44 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 6:45 He sat up and I said, "Hey, man, you have sleep apnea."
Shane Gillis 6:48 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 6:48 I go, "Have you ever been tested for sleep apnea?" And he, he was a younger guy. He was, like, in his 30s, but real overweight. And I go, "You gotta go get tested." I go-
Shane Gillis 6:56 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 6:56 ... "You, you legitimately have sleep apnea." I go, "I know because I have it." And I told him, I'm like, "You, you don't breathe for, like, nine seconds at a time."
Shane Gillis 7:03 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 7:04 I watched him. It was crazy.
Shane Gillis 7:06 I gotta be honest, that's... I mean, don't get me wrong, you did the right thing, but that would, that would bum me out.
Joe Rogan 7:11 Well, he was already friendly with me.
Shane Gillis 7:12 Okay.
Joe Rogan 7:13 We were already friendly.
Shane Gillis 7:13 Okay.
Joe Rogan 7:14 'Cause l... He was like, "Oh, I love your show."
Shane Gillis 7:15 Waking up, waking up to, like a, like a-
Joe Rogan 7:17 "Hey, what's up, buddy?"
Shane Gillis 7:17 ... InShape jacked dude being like-
Joe Rogan 7:18 Right, right, right. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 7:19 ... "You're fat." (laughs) You'd be like, "Dude, I fucking know."
Joe Rogan 7:21 I wasn't... I told him, "I have it too."
Shane Gillis 7:23 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 7:23 I have it too. I was informing him. I'm telling you, I go, it changed my life. And I just told him, I go, "I got a mouthpiece that presses down on your tongue."
Shane Gillis 7:30 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 7:30 "It keeps my tongue from sliding back. It's a game changer." I go, "Dude, you'll feel so much better-"
Shane Gillis 7:36 I tried it.
Joe Rogan 7:36 "... because I, I watched you choke."
Shane Gillis 7:38 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 7:38 And so he was like, "Oh, it's hard."
Shane Gillis 7:39 The mouthpiece is tough, though. Like if you're laying with a... Your lady.
Joe Rogan 7:42 Oh, that's a problem.
Shane Gillis 7:43 You put the mouthpiece in-
Joe Rogan 7:43 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 7:44 ... and then you go-
Joe Rogan 7:44 And she wants to talk.
Shane Gillis 7:45 ... "Well, hold on a second. All of a sudden I'm hard."
Joe Rogan 7:47 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 7:48 "We should probably have sex right now that you got that." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 7:49 "Take that mouthpiece out. Yeah, you gotta take it out."
Shane Gillis 7:52 "Yo, hey, baby, are you awake?"
Deviated septum fixes, broken noses, and why facial damage hits differently in women’s fights
Joe Rogan 7:53 It's just, uh... Another thing is, uh, mouth tape. You ever try that?
Shane Gillis 7:57 No.
Joe Rogan 7:57 Where you breathe in outta your nose? That's-
Shane Gillis 7:58 I got a deviated septum. I wouldn't...
Joe Rogan 8:00 You should get that fixed, dog.
Shane Gillis 8:02 I'm never gonna fix anything. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 8:03 Oh, you should get that fixed. I got mine fixed, it was amazing.
Shane Gillis 8:06 Really?
Joe Rogan 8:06 I didn't get it fixed till I was 40. Yeah.
Shane Gillis 8:08 How did it...
Joe Rogan 8:09 I had it my whole... Oh s- I'm sorry.
Shane Gillis 8:10 You just got nose surgery?
Joe Rogan 8:11 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 8:12 Oh.
Joe Rogan 8:12 It was awesome. It was... The result is awesome. I mean, I, I ga... I gained, like... Instantly gained, like, 10% cardio.
Shane Gillis 8:19 Oh, damn.
Joe Rogan 8:19 Yeah, 'cause you breathe outta your nose now. I couldn't breathe outta my nose forever. I f... I broke my nose when I was five. I fell down a flight of stairs.
Shane Gillis 8:26 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 8:26 And then, uh, it was always crooked. Like, it's... Like, the bone got fu... I got fucked. I probably should've went to a doctor, but, you know, in the '70s they just fucking dusted you off.
Shane Gillis 8:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan 8:34 (laughs) So... And then I broke my nose who knows how many times after that.
Shane Gillis 8:40 Of course.
Joe Rogan 8:40 Bunch of times.
Shane Gillis 8:41 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 8:42 The most recent one in my 40s. I got kneed in the face in jujitsu in my... Or in my late 30s rather. I got kneed in the face in jujitsu and it was fucking pouring blood. I knew it was broken, yeah.
Shane Gillis 8:50 It doesn't look bad though.
Joe Rogan 8:51 No, it's not that bad. It's not flattened-
Shane Gillis 8:53 You can see it. Yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan 8:53 ... too much because I really stopped striking mostly when I was, like, 22, 23. I did a little of it when I came to LA again. I d... I just, I just did a little sparring, but not too much. But it's the guys that just keep getting hit in the nose over and over again. This piece of cartilage eventually collapses.
Shane Gillis 9:12 Oh.
Joe Rogan 9:12 And then you get this, like, flat thing there.
Shane Gillis 9:14 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 9:15 Which doesn't bother me too much on dudes, but it bums me out when I see it on women fighters. It really does. It bums me out.
Shane Gillis 9:22 That makes sense.
Joe Rogan 9:23 I know, it's so sexist. Uh, it does bums me out.
Shane Gillis 9:27 Obviously, I mean, that's who you... That's who you want to look pretty. You're straight.
Joe Rogan 9:29 I know.
Shane Gillis 9:30 You go, "Why don't you look pretty?" (laughs)
Joe Rogan 9:32 There's certain fights where women get, like, really badly cut and I have a really hard time with it. I know. I shouldn't-
Shane Gillis 9:38 I mean, obviously...
Joe Rogan 9:40 But I don't have a hard time with dudes.
Shane Gillis 9:41 It... Well, it's hard to watch women get beat up.
Joe Rogan 9:43 It is.
The Iraq “man vs. woman boxing” clip and the reality of male–female power differences
Shane Gillis 9:44 Like the fucking... That Iraq video we were watching.
Joe Rogan 9:47 Oh, Jesus.
Shane Gillis 9:48 It's hard to watch. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 9:49 Jesus.
Shane Gillis 9:49 What are you doing? (laughs)
Joe Rogan 9:51 Someone decided it would be a good idea to have a man box a woman.
Shane Gillis 9:55 Yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 9:56 It was maybe some mouthy chick-
Shane Gillis 9:57 So...
Joe Rogan 9:57 ... because she was really aggressive. Like, remember?
Shane Gillis 9:59 She was.
Joe Rogan 10:00 Like even after he knocked her down, she j... she jumped up, tried to swing on him even when the referee was holding her back.
Shane Gillis 10:05 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 10:06 She was very aggressive, but this dude beat the fucking dog shit out of her.
Shane Gillis 10:10 She was... She did survive the round.
Joe Rogan 10:12 I guess. Didn't she get knocked down at the end and they stopped it?
Shane Gillis 10:15 I think that... I could be wrong, it looked like the second. He was in his corner.
Joe Rogan 10:18 Wow. Well, he was terrible.
Shane Gillis 10:19 He was terrible.
Joe Rogan 10:19 He wasn't good.
Shane Gillis 10:20 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 10:20 He wasn't good. It was ridiculous. Also, he... Oh, yeah, there it is.
Shane Gillis 10:25 Oh, no. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 10:25 Don't... Jimmy, don't make me watch this.
Shane Gillis 10:27 (laughs) Yeah.
Joe Rogan 10:28 This guy's just... I mean, it looks like he's got some rudimentary technique. He's just kind of swinging punches, but the power difference is just crazy. And anybody who thinks it's not is just fucking delusional. The difference between a man and a woman is so big. Even, like a, a strong woman, like Amanda Nunes, she'll probably knock out most dudes, but she's not sparring a guy her weight that's gonna go full blast. It's... That's fucked. Even, like, a big power puncher for a woman-
Shane Gillis 10:55 Oh. Oh. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 10:55 ... just doesn't compare. Oh, there, that's the end.
Shane Gillis 10:58 Oh, geez.
Joe Rogan 10:58 That's horrible.
Shane Gillis 10:59 (laughs) That's crazy.
Joe Rogan 11:00 Terrible.
Shane Gillis 11:00 But I think they were just in, like, Fallujah, so fuck it.
Joe Rogan 11:03 My friend, Tom, used to have a girlfriend that could definitely knock you out. She's-
Shane Gillis 11:06 Me? Yeah, right. Dude, I'd fuck-
Joe Rogan 11:07 Knock me out. Dude, bro.
Shane Gillis 11:09 ... you up.
Joe Rogan 11:09 I'm telling you, this girl could, could knock a man out. Uh, Tom was always telling me how hard she hits those, uh, punching bag things and he's like, "Let her hit your hand."
Shane Gillis 11:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan 11:18 So I go, "Okay." So I put my hand up. Bro, she blasted my hand and I went, "Whoa."
Shane Gillis 11:23 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 11:23 I was like, "That is real."
Shane Gillis 11:24 No.
Joe Rogan 11:24 I go, "That's a real problem." I go, "Dude, she'll knock you out. Do not get into an argument with your girlfriend." She's a big lady. Not, not, like, overweight-
Shane Gillis 11:32 Yeah, sure.
Joe Rogan 11:32 ... but the strong-
Shane Gillis 11:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan 11:33 ... stout lady. I was shocked. There's girls out there that could flatline you.
Shane Gillis 11:37 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 11:38 (laughs) But not that one.
Shane Gillis 11:39 Bro, how much would that suck?
Joe Rogan 11:41 That would suck so hard.
Shane Gillis 11:41 You're talking to your girl, you're like, "I... This is my house. I make the rules." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 11:45 Right. And she just fucking... She Collet-
Shane Gillis 11:48 Shh, shh, shh. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 11:48 ... Clorissa Shields you. Just fucking drops bombs on you, tunes you up with a, a nice-
Shane Gillis 11:54 Couple of hammer fists on the ground.
Joe Rogan 11:58 ... four-piece combination. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 11:59 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 11:59 Oh, fuck that, dude.
Shane Gillis 12:00 Dude, think of talking to a girl and she gets in, like, a good stance.
Joe Rogan 12:03 Oh, my God.
Shane Gillis 12:04 (laughs) Like a, a boxing stance.
Joe Rogan 12:05 Have you seen that really pretty girl that fights in the PFL? What's her name? Dakota Dacheva? I don't know how to say her last name. Uh...... I don't know. Uh, she's from England. I don't know what her ethnicity is, but she is ... Like, most of her fights win by knockout.
Shane Gillis 12:20 Hmm.
Joe Rogan 12:20 She's this Muay Thai specialist, but she's pretty. She's real pretty, and like slim and slender, and she just-
Shane Gillis 12:25 Sounds awesome.
Joe Rogan 12:26 ... fucks these girls up.
Shane Gillis 12:28 That's what it is.
Joe Rogan 12:29 Fucks these girls up. Like, combina- ... That's her.
Shane Gillis 12:32 Combination.
Joe Rogan 12:33 DeTo- ... Uh, say that name. DeCheva. DeCheva. I don't know. I'm probably butchering it. A lot of those names, you, you can't really pronounce them the way you read them. Like that, uh, that trips me up so hard at UFC weigh-ins. Like I have to-
Shane Gillis 12:47 Oh, I know.
Joe Rogan 12:47 ... write everything out phonetically. Just cut, cut to like when she's tilt-
Shane Gillis 12:52 Oh, man.
Joe Rogan 12:52 Yeah, she's tuning up this girl. And she f- tunes up all these girls. She's nasty, man. Look at that neat body, like-
Shane Gillis 12:58 (laughs) That would fucking kill me.
Joe Rogan 12:59 And she's pretty. She's pretty. She's got a nice body. If you saw her at a club, you would, you would say, "Wow, she looks really fit. Like maybe she's a CrossFitter or something."
Shane Gillis 13:07 Oh.
Joe Rogan 13:07 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 13:07 You try to hug her, you get put in the clinch and get fucking elbowed. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 13:11 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 13:11 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 13:11 She just fucks you up.
Shane Gillis 13:14 At a club.
Joe Rogan 13:14 Yeah. But that video's wrong. The video in Iraq is-
Shane Gillis 13:18 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 13:18 ... just wrong. Don't do that. Don't do that-
Shane Gillis 13:21 God, I mean-
Joe Rogan 13:21 ... to that poor lady. That lady got a lifetime worth of brain damage that day.
Shane Gillis 13:23 She must've been talking so much shit that the whole c- ... Everybody agreed to it.
Joe Rogan 13:27 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 13:27 Everyone agreed.
Joe Rogan 13:28 There's ladies like that out there, just like there's guys like that out there.
Shane Gillis 13:31 For sure.
Gym challengers, karate-movie delusions, and imagining schizophrenia in a fight setting
Joe Rogan 13:32 I've s-... I've seen a lot of videos of guys just walking into a boxing gym.
Shane Gillis 13:36 Yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 13:36 For fucking ... "Hey, I'm a fucking street fighter." They have no skills.
Shane Gillis 13:40 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 13:40 And some guy just fucking talks shit to them while he's beating the brakes off of them.
Shane Gillis 13:44 You can always tell though, just the way they move their feet.
Joe Rogan 13:46 Oh, yeah.
Shane Gillis 13:47 Like down-
Joe Rogan 13:47 I know what you mean.
Shane Gillis 13:47 Kind of like on the balls of their f-... Like, jumping around a little.
Joe Rogan 13:51 Well-
Shane Gillis 13:51 Every punch they throw, they leave their feet.
Joe Rogan 13:53 During the old days of martial arts, they used to... People would just show up at your gym and say he- ... They want to spar the best people there. It would happen all the time.
Shane Gillis 14:00 How... What years are these?
Joe Rogan 14:02 The '80s.
Shane Gillis 14:02 Yeah, that's because they were putting out those fucking sick-ass karate movies.
Joe Rogan 14:05 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 14:06 (laughs) Every single dude was like, "Hold on a second."
Joe Rogan 14:09 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 14:09 "Is that me?"
Joe Rogan 14:10 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 14:10 "Am I Jean-Claude Van Damme?"
Joe Rogan 14:11 I am that guy. There's a lot of like probably schizophrenics and delusional people-
Shane Gillis 14:15 Yeah, of course. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 14:16 ... who show up at a karate school and just get fucked up.
Shane Gillis 14:18 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 14:18 It's horrible.
Shane Gillis 14:21 (laughs) Just having a manic episode being like-
Joe Rogan 14:23 Oh.
Shane Gillis 14:23 ... "I'm about to throw a roundhouse kick."
Joe Rogan 14:25 Horrible, horrible.
Shane Gillis 14:27 Oh, man. Getting tuned up while you're (laughs) having a mental breakdown.
Joe Rogan 14:30 (laughs) You're in the middle of a full schizophrenic break.
Shane Gillis 14:33 Oh.
Joe Rogan 14:33 You're seeing elves and shit.
Shane Gillis 14:35 (laughs) Yeah. There's that fucking elf right there. He's in the gym.
Joe Rogan 14:38 There's a dragon hiding behind the corner. You just get punched in the face. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 14:43 Fighting naked.
Joe Rogan 14:43 "Hold on."
Shane Gillis 14:44 Fighting naked.
Joe Rogan 14:44 "The fucking dragon's talking to me."
Shane Gillis 14:46 Yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 14:47 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 14:47 He's got a trainer, it's a dragon. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 14:50 (laughs) Can you imagine being schizophrenic?
Shane Gillis 14:51 Ugh.
Joe Rogan 14:51 Imagine just seeing a world that's totally different than the world everybody sees 'cause your, your whatever is all fucked up, and so you're just seeing things that aren't there.
Shane Gillis 14:59 No.
Joe Rogan 15:00 Making connections that aren't real.
Shane Gillis 15:02 And you don't know Kurt Metzger.
Joe Rogan 15:05 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 15:05 Metzger's fired up. Metzger's fired up. He'll get you.
Joe Rogan 15:09 (laughs) Metzger's got a touch.
Shane Gillis 15:10 He got me at the holiday party. (laughs) He got me.
Joe Rogan 15:12 He's got a, he's got a, he's got a touch with his skits.
Shane Gillis 15:14 He's fired up, dude.
Kurt Metzger as conspiracy encyclopedia and awkward early-career comic interactions
Joe Rogan 15:15 Bro, he is an enc- ... Uh, an encyclopedia of conspiracies.
Shane Gillis 15:20 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 15:20 You just drop... Go back to... "Remember that thing in the '70s?" "Oh, yeah."
Shane Gillis 15:24 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 15:24 "Oh, yeah, that thing."
Shane Gillis 15:25 He'll get, he'll get it. He'll get it immediately.
Joe Rogan 15:27 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 15:27 And he'll tell you more than you know.
Joe Rogan 15:28 He'll tell too much.
Shane Gillis 15:29 And he's... He also talks about conspiracies with complete, "Oh, you didn't know this?"
Joe Rogan 15:33 Yeah. That's the best one.
Shane Gillis 15:34 There's never like-
Joe Rogan 15:34 "Oh, you didn't know?"
Shane Gillis 15:34 ... "There's a theory."
Joe Rogan 15:35 "Oh, you didn't know?"
Shane Gillis 15:36 No, he's just like, "Yeah."
Joe Rogan 15:37 And he gets over you 'cause he's such a goon. He like looms over you.
Shane Gillis 15:40 He is.
Joe Rogan 15:40 He's this big fucking dude.
Shane Gillis 15:41 He's-
Joe Rogan 15:42 His giant eyebrows. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 15:43 He's so fucking funny.
Joe Rogan 15:45 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 15:45 He's so funny. He's unbelievably funny. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 15:48 (laughs) He's such a character.
Shane Gillis 15:49 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 15:49 Like you couldn't make a dude like that in a movie. People would be like, "Oh, that guy, that's too over the top."
Shane Gillis 15:54 No, he's... His, his comedy is-
Joe Rogan 15:57 Oh, yeah.
Shane Gillis 15:57 Like my favorite.
Joe Rogan 15:58 He's great. He's great. He's a really great like, uh ... He does the Jimmy Dore show, and he-
Shane Gillis 16:02 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 16:02 ... he just jumps in with shit, jumps in. It's always like... I'm always like watching this very serious thing. I'm like, "What the fuck?" (laughs)
Shane Gillis 16:08 (laughs) It's Metzger.
Joe Rogan 16:09 "What the fuck, Metzger?" (laughs)
Shane Gillis 16:11 Metzger will ... He's come over to my house a couple times. He's, he likes White Claws. He drinks White Claws and then he's-
Joe Rogan 16:15 Oh, yeah. He brings his own.
Shane Gillis 16:16 And then he gets going.
Joe Rogan 16:17 Yeah. He always shows up in the green room with two White Claws in between his fingers. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 16:21 Always two White Claws. He's a two White Claw man.
Joe Rogan 16:23 (laughs) It's a good move.
Shane Gillis 16:25 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 16:25 He's such a character. He's always been that guy too.
Shane Gillis 16:28 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 16:28 He's so fun.
Shane Gillis 16:29 I had the worst... one of the most embarrassing interactions with him. He just put out, uh, White Precious, which was one of my favorite specials ever, and then I saw him in LA 'cause I was, I, I was opening for like Big J at the store, and Metzger was there, and I was like, "Okay, I'm gonna try to talk to Kurt. This is a big moment for me." And I was like, "So do you think... When do you think your next special is?"
Joe Rogan 16:50 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 16:51 And he was like, "I don't fucking know, dude," and just walked away. And I was like-
Joe Rogan 16:55 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 16:55 ... "Fuck, I blew it." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 16:56 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 16:58 There's so many of those.
Joe Rogan 16:59 That's-
Shane Gillis 17:00 So many I wish I could take back.
Joe Rogan 17:01 Yeah, the meeting people for the first time-
Shane Gillis 17:03 Oh.
Joe Rogan 17:03 ... and being like super awkward or...
Shane Gillis 17:06 Oh. Attell got me with a terrible one. I've talked about it before, but I walked outside of the cellar. I'd just had a good set, like I was feeling good, and he was smoking a cigarette, and I was like, "Can I get one of those cigarettes?" (laughs) And he was like, "No." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 17:18 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 17:18 And just walked right back inside. (laughs) I was like, "Fuck." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 17:25 (laughs) You thought you were gonna bond.
Shane Gillis 17:26 Yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 17:26 Meanwhile, he only had four left.
Shane Gillis 17:27 Yeah, he did, y-... He's... He likes fucking with people.
Joe Rogan 17:30 How is he still alive? Like he's does nothing to take care of himself. How much, how many cigarettes does Dave smoke?
Shane Gillis 17:37 He smokes a lot of cigarettes.
Joe Rogan 17:38 He's, he is alive through pure laughter.
Shane Gillis 17:40 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 17:41 The amount of laughter he generates keeps his tissue excited.
Shane Gillis 17:44 I was-
Joe Rogan 17:45 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 17:45 I was so lucky to just be like... 'Cause I'd... They would always put me with him at the end of the night.
Joe Rogan 17:50 Oh, nice.
Shane Gillis 17:50 So I got to watch him for a few years and it was like my favorite thing.
Joe Rogan 17:54 Oh, he's one of the best ever.
Shane Gillis 17:54 But if I... He, he, he just would make fun of me. He'd see me in the room and be like, "Oh, Shane must've had a good set. He's hanging out."
Joe Rogan 18:01 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 18:02 "Shane, where were you born? On the corner of AR and 15?" (laughs)
Joe Rogan 18:07 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 18:07 He's so good. Yeah, if I... Yeah, he fucking really makes funny.... you stand in the doorway and he's like, (laughs) "Look at you, you fat piece of shit." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 18:16 I love what he does. He'll do a show and then he'll bring his opening acts on-
Shane Gillis 18:20 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 18:20 ... on, on the stage at the end of the show and just riff-
Shane Gillis 18:23 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 18:23 And just shit on them. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 18:24 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 18:25 Like, Ian-
Shane Gillis 18:25 It's hard to- it's impossible to keep up.
Joe Rogan 18:27 Bro, Ian just gets- Ian finesses-
Shane Gillis 18:28 He is good at it.
Joe Rogan 18:29 He just gets... He is, but he gets just steamrolled.
Shane Gillis 18:31 Yeah, of course.
Joe Rogan 18:32 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 18:32 He, like, knows Dave enough to, like, know what he's looking for with the acts.
Joe Rogan 18:36 Right.
Shane Gillis 18:36 I don't.
Joe Rogan 18:37 Right.
Shane Gillis 18:37 So I'd be in the room and he'd be like, "Shane, you look like a sex toy guy."
Joe Rogan 18:40 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 18:40 "What type of sex toys do you like?" I'd be like, "Uh, vibrators." He'd be like, "Oh, good answer." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 18:47 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 18:47 Fuck, I don't know. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 18:49 The, the panic when you're a young comic of meeting, like, an established comic is very-
Shane Gillis 18:54 It's so bad.
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Shane Gillis 20:28 Yeah. I sent... Uh, I opened for Bert Kreischer in, in Helium, and then at Helium Filling, it was the first time I ever middled, and I was like, "That was a good show. I should..." And he, you know, he was drunk after the show and he was like, "You should open for me." And I was like, "F- f- fuck yeah, I'm gonna email this guy." I emailed him, like, five times. The first email was like, "I think you and me mesh together. We should..." It was brutal. So then I'm talking-
Joe Rogan 20:55 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 20:55 Me and Stanhope were talking to him about it. This fucker still has the same email account, so he brought it up.
Joe Rogan 21:01 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 21:01 He read the email in front of me 10 years later. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 21:04 How does he still have the same email account for 10 years?
Shane Gillis 21:08 It killed me.
Joe Rogan 21:08 God, that would be...
Shane Gillis 21:09 You got any of those?
Joe Rogan 21:11 What?
Shane Gillis 21:11 Like, when you were a young comic, just seeing somebody-
Joe Rogan 21:13 Well, there was no emails back then.
Shane Gillis 21:14 No, no, no, but I mean just, like, saying something that you...
Joe Rogan 21:19 (sighs) Nothing too bad.
Shane Gillis 21:20 Like you see a big comic and you're like...
Joe Rogan 21:21 One time at MTV, Jon Stewart was having a meeting with this executive. And I had just met Jon Stewart, like, the first time. And, uh, so I went in to say hi.
Shane Gillis 21:33 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 21:33 I went in to say hi to the lady, and Jon Stewart was there and I, I remember saying hi to him, like, "Oh, hi." And then I, I remember I went, I go, "Wow, you got a great view." I looked out the window and I knocked something over.
Shane Gillis 21:43 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 21:43 Like, a fucking statue or some shit.
Shane Gillis 21:46 Oh, God. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 21:46 And then I had to grab it and pick it up. It didn't break and I put it back. I'm like, "All right, I'll just get out of here."
Shane Gillis 21:50 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 21:50 I just felt like such a fucking-
Shane Gillis 21:52 Oh.
Joe Rogan 21:52 ... clumsy dork.
Shane Gillis 21:54 Ugh.
Joe Rogan 21:54 'Cause I had to look out the... I had to say something nice, like, "Wow, you got a great view."
Shane Gillis 21:57 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 21:57 Knocked this fucking thing over and just like, "Oh, no."
Shane Gillis 22:01 Yeah, knocking something over and that.
Joe Rogan 22:02 Like, why did I go back there to look?
Shane Gillis 22:04 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 22:05 If I just said hi in the main room area, everything would be fine.
Shane Gillis 22:08 Everybody would be like, "Man, that guy was cool."
Joe Rogan 22:09 "That guy was cool."
Shane Gillis 22:10 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 22:10 But no, you had to go to the window and, and knock and-
Shane Gillis 22:12 Oh. (laughs) And I just knocked this thing over. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 22:13 That haunted me for years.
Shane Gillis 22:16 I had a-
Joe Rogan 22:16 I think about that knocking that stup-... I don't even remember what it was I knocked over, but I remember going, "Oh, no."
Shane Gillis 22:21 Yeah, it's terrible.
Joe Rogan 22:23 (sighs)
Shane Gillis 22:23 I had one, uh, I went to see Soders. He filmed one of his Comedy Central specials in Philly and I had just done a showcase with him in New York. Like, I was, like, really excited that I did a show at The Stand, 'cause I, uh, it was like the first time I ever did and he was on the lineup. So we're standing in line and I was like, "You think I should just tell these people that I just did a show with this guy?" (laughs)
Joe Rogan 22:46 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 22:46 And my friends were like, "What the fuck are you talking about?"
Joe Rogan 22:50 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 22:50 And I was like, "Dude, I'll kill myself." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 22:52 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 22:53 Like, right away. I was like, "I'm so sorry."
Joe Rogan 22:56 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 22:56 "You think I should tell, like, the people, the security that I just did a show with him?" Oh.
Joe Rogan 23:02 It's funny.
Shane Gillis 23:02 It's really embarrassing.
Joe Rogan 23:03 It's, uh, it is embarrassing now because now you're just, like, totally friends with all these guys.
Shane Gillis 23:08 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 23:08 It's totally normal. That's what's weird.
Shane Gillis 23:11 (sighs)
Joe Rogan 23:11 Like, if I see Jon Stewart now, I give him a hug. Like, "Hey, what's up, dude?" So, like, it's totally normal.
Shane Gillis 23:16 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 23:16 He's just a person.
Shane Gillis 23:17 Of course.
Joe Rogan 23:17 But when you're s- see someone that you've seen on TV, like, when you're young, it's weird.
Shane Gillis 23:22 It is. It's-
Joe Rogan 23:23 It takes a long time before it stops being weird too.
Shane Gillis 23:25 That's why it's like, when p- people come up to me and do the same thing I used to do, so I'm always like, "It's all right."
Joe Rogan 23:30 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 23:31 You know what I mean? Like, the first time I met-
Joe Rogan 23:32 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 23:32 ... Norman and Liz, it was after a show. And I was standing next to them and I was like, "You guys, it's funny, you guys sound just the same as you do on podcasts. I listen to you guys' podcasts." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 23:41 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 23:42 And they were like, "Who the fuck are you?" (laughs)
Joe Rogan 23:46 (laughs) Well...
Shane Gillis 23:46 Yeah, it's brutal.
Joe Rogan 23:49 I mean, there's no way to be comfortable.
Shane Gillis 23:51 No.
Joe Rogan 23:52 How can you be? You have to go through it. If you don't go through it, you're not gonna be comfortable. You're gonna be weirded out. (clears throat)
Shane Gillis 23:58 And you, like-
Joe Rogan 23:59 There's no, no way around it.
Shane Gillis 23:59 You want them to be your friend.
Joe Rogan 24:01 Oh, yeah.
Shane Gillis 24:01 You know what I mean?
Joe Rogan 24:02 Oh, yeah.
Shane Gillis 24:02 You want them to like you. They have no idea who you are. You're, like, standing next to them.
Joe Rogan 24:05 Yeah, yeah.
Shane Gillis 24:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Famous-person weirdness: athletes, Aaron Judge panic, and the 9 hot dogs/9 beers challenge
Joe Rogan 24:07 And then it gets... You know, there's levels of weirdness, you know. Like, sometimes I'll be, I'm in here talking to someone and I'm like-... that's fucking Quentin Tarantino. Like, how weird is this? I mean-
Shane Gillis 24:17 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 24:17 ... sitting here talking to Quentin Tar- it, like, there's certain guys that never stop being weird.
Shane Gillis 24:21 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 24:21 It's like always stays a little weird because they're so famous.
Shane Gillis 24:26 Yeah. Mine's always athletes.
Joe Rogan 24:28 Hm.
Shane Gillis 24:28 It's always an athlete that I didn't think was gonna-
Joe Rogan 24:31 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 24:31 ... make me feel that way.
Joe Rogan 24:32 That's interesting.
Shane Gillis 24:32 I got A- Aaron Judge-
Joe Rogan 24:32 Well, you know how special they are.
Shane Gillis 24:34 Aaron Judge from the Yankees got me.
Joe Rogan 24:36 Yeah?
Shane Gillis 24:36 I couldn't even talk.
Joe Rogan 24:38 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 24:38 It was fucking recent (laughs) . It was crazy.
Joe Rogan 24:40 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 24:41 He was handed... He was hitting batting practice before Phillies/Yankees, and he saw me. I didn't know he knew who I was.
Joe Rogan 24:47 (coughs)
Shane Gillis 24:47 And he, like, looked over before he, like, was entering the cage. And he was like, "What's up?" And I was like, "Oh, shit."
Joe Rogan 24:53 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 24:53 And then he got done, and he walked over. He's like, "What are you doing back there, big man?" And I was like, "Oh, dude. Uh."
Joe Rogan 24:59 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 25:00 "You were hitting him." "Oh, yeah. He's a horse, dude." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 25:03 (laughs) Yeah, it's a big fella.
Shane Gillis 25:04 Yeah, you have no idea. I was, uh, full panic in that.
Joe Rogan 25:07 That's funny.
Shane Gillis 25:07 Full panic. And then I think... Yeah, that was the day me and my buddies did, uh, nine hot dogs, nine beers, nine innings.
Joe Rogan 25:14 Geez.
Shane Gillis 25:15 O'Connor had ni- seven hot dogs before the first bid. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 25:19 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 25:19 And then he passed out. He didn't have any beer.
Joe Rogan 25:22 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 25:22 He fell asleep for a whole game.
Joe Rogan 25:24 Just from the hot dogs?
Shane Gillis 25:25 Seven hot dogs.
Joe Rogan 25:25 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 25:27 (laughs) And we were with my buddy, H. Foley, and he was getting other food. He's a big fucking guy.
Joe Rogan 25:32 O- other than the nine hot dogs?
Shane Gillis 25:33 He was... Nine hot dogs was the challenge.
Joe Rogan 25:34 And then other food?
Shane Gillis 25:35 I watched him get a fucking cheesesteak and nine hotdogs. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 25:39 How? How big is he?
Shane Gillis 25:41 He's as big as it... He's a big fuck.
Joe Rogan 25:42 Big as it gets, is that what you're about to say? (laughs)
Shane Gillis 25:45 (laughs) I feel bad. I love him. But for real-
Joe Rogan 25:48 Geez.
Shane Gillis 25:49 ... he's about as funny as it gets, though.
Joe Rogan 25:50 Nine hot dogs and a cheesesteak-
Shane Gillis 25:52 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 25:52 ... is crazy. That's a lot of volume. Just, like, the sheer mass of it all. You know?
Shane Gillis 25:58 Yeah. It was terrible.
Joe Rogan 26:00 You know that feeling that you get when you eat, like, a giant meal, and then you look at yourself sideways in the mirror? You're like, "Oh my God, I'm fucking pregnant."
Shane Gillis 26:08 Yeah, every... I did it last night. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 26:09 Think about all those plates-
Shane Gillis 26:11 (laughs)
Vitamins, bloodwork anxiety, and the “jacked liver” theory about tolerance
Joe Rogan 26:11 ... stacked up on top of each other. L- lately, I've been doing this one meal a day thing, like, the last few days. I don't think I'm gonna stick with it. (sniffs) Today, I kind of cheated. I had a little bit of fruit. But, so last night, I went to, uh, the, uh-
Shane Gillis 26:25 Dude, if I had a little bit of fruit, I'd be like, "I'm, I'm the beacon of health."
Joe Rogan 26:29 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 26:30 "It's crazy I had fucking fruit today."
Joe Rogan 26:32 You don't eat any fruit?
Shane Gillis 26:33 No.
Joe Rogan 26:34 No vitamins?
Shane Gillis 26:35 I d- I take vitamins.
Joe Rogan 26:36 You take vitamins?
Shane Gillis 26:37 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 26:37 What are you taking?
Shane Gillis 26:39 Uh, right now, just D, B and C.
Joe Rogan 26:41 Oh, okay.
Shane Gillis 26:42 And then I got some zinc and magnesium in there.
Joe Rogan 26:44 You should give it a waste well, and you know what they'll do?
Shane Gillis 26:46 I did. I did. They gave me some shit.
Joe Rogan 26:47 But they'll give you one based on your blood profile.
Shane Gillis 26:50 Yes, they did. They did.
Joe Rogan 26:51 Yeah, they'll mix it for you.
Shane Gillis 26:51 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 26:52 Oh, it's the best.
Shane Gillis 26:52 Yeah, it's great.
Joe Rogan 26:53 You don't have to think.
Shane Gillis 26:54 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 26:54 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 26:54 I went to Ways Well fully going, "I have to have diabetes."
Joe Rogan 26:58 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 26:59 The fucking... As soon as they took my blood, there was, like, four days from when I got the results. I was in the green room talking to Simpson. I was like, "Dude, there had to be symptoms, right?" He was like, "No, I just have diabetes." I was like, "Fuck, I definitely have diabetes." Nothing.
Joe Rogan 27:14 Wow.
Shane Gillis 27:14 It was a good result.
Joe Rogan 27:15 That is a good result.
Shane Gillis 27:15 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 27:16 That's great.
Shane Gillis 27:17 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 27:17 That liver is a motherfucker, dude.
Shane Gillis 27:18 Couldn't believe it.
Joe Rogan 27:19 Yeah, your liver-
Shane Gillis 27:20 They're like, "Your liver's all right."
Joe Rogan 27:21 Your liver's a motherfucker. You know what? It gets workouts.
Shane Gillis 27:24 I think the-
Joe Rogan 27:25 Gets workouts.
Shane Gillis 27:25 True. It's jacked. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 27:26 Right? Your liver's jacked.
Shane Gillis 27:27 That's right. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 27:27 If you think about it, look-
Shane Gillis 27:29 It's John John.
Joe Rogan 27:29 ... running all the time... Look, running one time until your heart explodes is not good for you, right?
Shane Gillis 27:34 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 27:34 We all agree. You get a heart attack, you die. That's not good. Drinking yourself to death one time is not good for you.
Shane Gillis 27:40 No.
Joe Rogan 27:40 Definitely not. But running every day, a little bit, couple miles, you get in shape.
Shane Gillis 27:45 (laughs) I think this is wrong, but I like where you're going. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 27:48 You know what I'm saying? You know where I'm going with this?
Shane Gillis 27:49 I think it's factually-
Joe Rogan 27:49 Like, a little bit of whiskey.
Shane Gillis 27:51 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 27:52 A little bit of booze, some drinking every day-
Shane Gillis 27:54 Yeah, toughen that fucker up.
Joe Rogan 27:55 ... your fucking, your, your liver is ready to go.
Shane Gillis 27:57 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 27:57 Your liver's like a marathon runner.
Shane Gillis 27:59 It is. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 27:59 Right?
Shane Gillis 28:00 Yeah, you'd think.
Joe Rogan 28:01 Well, it's like, that's why you have the tolerance you have, clearly. Right? Because-
Shane Gillis 28:05 Uh, tolerance comes from just light beer.
Joe Rogan 28:07 Right.
Shane Gillis 28:08 For real. If you get me... If I take two shots, I'm like, "I gotta go home."
Joe Rogan 28:11 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 28:12 It's crazy.
Joe Rogan 28:13 Stanhope does that too. He just sips light beer.
Shane Gillis 28:16 Oh, really?
Joe Rogan 28:16 Yeah, he moved in... He went through a cocktail phase. I don't know where he's at right now.
Shane Gillis 28:19 He... When I was with him, he was fully on, uh, like, white Russians.
Joe Rogan 28:24 Oh, okay.
Shane Gillis 28:24 And he was-
Joe Rogan 28:25 Yeah, cocktail phase.
Shane Gillis 28:26 Lucky getting after it.
Joe Rogan 28:27 He gets after it.
Shane Gillis 28:28 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 28:28 Still, after all these years.
Shane Gillis 28:30 He was doing good last time I saw him.
Joe Rogan 28:31 Oh, he's great. He's-
Shane Gillis 28:32 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 28:32 Oh, I heard he crushed at Skank Fest.
Shane Gillis 28:34 He murdered. He was-
Joe Rogan 28:35 Yeah, Tony said-
Shane Gillis 28:36 He was awesome.
Joe Rogan 28:36 ... he watched his set, and he said he was just cla- Tony said he was just going like this in the back of the room.
Shane Gillis 28:41 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 28:41 Doug's always been one of the best. And he's like, that's him. Like, he's not putting on an act. He's-
Shane Gillis 28:46 No.
Joe Rogan 28:46 That's genuinely him 24/7 with his stupid suits on and just thinking everything is hilarious and hanging out with a army of idiots. Like- (laughs) there's so many fucking dudes that are like him.
Shane Gillis 28:59 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 28:59 They're all doing ridiculous shit.
Shane Gillis 29:01 And I... Yeah, when I was living there, it was just me and them.
Joe Rogan 29:04 Oh my God. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 29:04 (laughs) I was the only guy. I was like-
Joe Rogan 29:05 What the fuck?
Shane Gillis 29:06 ... "Boys."
Joe Rogan 29:08 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 29:08 These guys are all like 50 and 60.
Joe Rogan 29:10 Hey, man.
Shane Gillis 29:10 It's like, "Boys."
Joe Rogan 29:11 You gotta admire it.
Shane Gillis 29:12 "Chill."
Joe Rogan 29:12 No doctors.
Shane Gillis 29:13 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 29:13 Fuck this, we're riding this thing until the wheels fall off.
Shane Gillis 29:17 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 29:17 (clears throat)
Shane Gillis 29:17 Bingo is doing good too.
Joe Rogan 29:18 That's great.
Shane Gillis 29:19 Everything. It was, it was nice to see.
Joe Rogan 29:22 Yeah, because when we were doing that End of the World podcast one time-
Shane Gillis 29:25 Yes.
Joe Rogan 29:25 ... that's when Bingo fell. Oh, it's so scary, man. Hitting your head-
Shane Gillis 29:29 Yeah.
Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua: odds, “shenanigans,” and post-fight mic behavior
Joe Rogan 29:29 ... is so scary. Speaking of hitting your head, what do you think of this Jake Paul/Anthony Joshua fight? That's tonight.
Shane Gillis 29:34 That is tonight. And-
Joe Rogan 29:35 Are you gonna watch it?
Shane Gillis 29:36 Yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch it.
Joe Rogan 29:37 Where are you watching it?
Shane Gillis 29:38 I don't know. I got a lot... We got a lot tonight. We got Alabama/Oklahoma.
Joe Rogan 29:42 Oh.
Shane Gillis 29:43 College football playoffs.
Joe Rogan 29:44 Okay, okay.
Shane Gillis 29:44 What else we got, Jamo? Just that?
Narrator 29:46 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 29:47 All right.
Joe Rogan 29:48 That's all great.
Shane Gillis 29:48 Oh, yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 29:49 (laughs) I can't get excited about that.
Shane Gillis 29:50 (laughs) Not another huge thing.
Joe Rogan 29:52 I can't get excited about that while Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua are fighting.
Shane Gillis 29:56 Uh-
Joe Rogan 29:56 I'm very excited about this.
Shane Gillis 29:58 If Anthony Joshua doesn't take it easy, this should be...
Joe Rogan 30:01 How could he take it easy? The whole world is watching. There's not a chance he's gonna make it look like this guy can box with him.
Shane Gillis 30:08 Can you imagine if Jake...
Joe Rogan 30:10 If he flatlines him?
Shane Gillis 30:11 Oh my God. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 30:11 What if he steps in and just-
Shane Gillis 30:13 Oh my God.
Joe Rogan 30:14 ... right power bombs him right on the chin, and Joshua's legs go out?... and he goes down.
Shane Gillis 30:20 That'd be the saddest... It'd be sad.
Joe Rogan 30:22 Not for Jake Paul.
Shane Gillis 30:24 I... Of course, that'd be awesome. I'm saying for Anthony Joshua-
Joe Rogan 30:28 Not for all the young bucks.
Shane Gillis 30:28 ... who's like... who was like gonna be the guy.
Narrator 30:30 Destroy some sportsbooks also, apparently. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 30:33 What are those odds?
Narrator 30:33 Th- they, they'd lose $100 million or something, I think.
Joe Rogan 30:36 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 30:37 That's weird.
Narrator 30:37 Yeah, there's a lot of-
Joe Rogan 30:38 Might take a dive then.
Narrator 30:38 ... people betting on the, uh, Jake Paul underdog right now.
Joe Rogan 30:41 There's people betting on him?
Narrator 30:43 Yeah, 'cause he's got... It says plus 650. You're making six times-
Shane Gillis 30:46 Yeah.
Narrator 30:46 ... the money you put in.
Joe Rogan 30:47 Yeah, but what are the odds, really?
Shane Gillis 30:49 I mean, not good. But-
Joe Rogan 30:50 What are the odds, really? I know that's the odd. Literally said, "What are the odds?" to the odds. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 30:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughs)
Narrator 30:55 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 30:56 But I mean, if you're gonna-
Shane Gillis 30:57 Well, Vegas. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 30:58 I... It's like 99% in my eyes that Anthony Joshua either wins the decision or stops him. This is because he is a two-time... It's not saying Jake Paul's not a good boxer. He's a real good boxer. He's like very underrated. But he's a two-time heavyweight world champion. He's like one of the fucking scariest-
Narrator 31:16 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 31:16 ... guys in the division. Lightning fast punches. Two hundred and forty-five fucking pounds. He's huge. He's way bigger, way more skilled.
Shane Gillis 31:26 Yeah. He's like a foot taller. What's the height difference? I saw him at the weigh-in.
Joe Rogan 31:29 I think he's five inches taller. Four or five inches taller. But the point is, he's one of the best heavyweight boxers alive.
Shane Gillis 31:36 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 31:36 And Jake Paul is a guy that is, you know, very impressive for a guy-
Shane Gillis 31:41 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 31:41 ... beating up Ben Askren and knocking out Tyron Woodley. Very impressive.
Shane Gillis 31:44 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 31:45 There's levels. Knocking out Mike Perry, very impressive. There's levels. This is, this is a crazy jump.
Shane Gillis 31:51 That's why it's... I think the, the only reason the odds are not 40 to one is-
Joe Rogan 31:56 People sus- suspect shenanigans.
Shane Gillis 31:58 Shenanigans.
Joe Rogan 31:59 Yeah. They suspect shenanigans.
Shane Gillis 32:01 But, a first round-
Joe Rogan 32:02 But if they come out and fucking circle each other like pro-wrestling and grab the ropes, we're gonna be like, "No."
Shane Gillis 32:07 (laughs) Yeah. Yeah.
Narrator 32:08 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 32:08 Yes.
Joe Rogan 32:08 You motherfuckers.
Shane Gillis 32:10 When Nate fought him, that was great.
Joe Rogan 32:12 Well, listen, that's another fight. Look, Nate... No disrespect to Nate, but Nate fought his career at 155 pounds for the most part. Couple fights at 170.
Shane Gillis 32:20 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 32:21 You know, a very good boxer for MMA.
Shane Gillis 32:23 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 32:23 But Jake Paul had his hands full and Nate had, Nate had a bad shoulder.
Shane Gillis 32:27 It was later rounds.
Joe Rogan 32:28 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 32:29 The late rounds, Nate started...
Joe Rogan 32:31 Yeah. "Paul, seven to one underdog, had attracted 82% of the bets and 90% of the money that had been wagered on DraftKings on the winner." What?
Narrator 32:41 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 32:43 "A Paul upset would result in nearly $100 million loss for the sportsbook." Imagine if Jake Paul just hated DraftKings and w- they made a deal with Anthony Joshua.
Shane Gillis 32:56 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 32:56 And it's like, "Let, let's bankrupt these motherfuckers."
Shane Gillis 32:57 He'd give you $100 mill. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 32:59 "Let's bankrupt these motherfuckers. We're gonna bet it all on me." I mean, that's like a Guy Ritchie movie.
Shane Gillis 33:04 It is.
Joe Rogan 33:04 You know?
Shane Gillis 33:05 It's-
Joe Rogan 33:06 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 33:06 But that's the other thing, 'cause I saw Anthony J-... No disrespect to Anthony Joshua, but I saw... What fight was it rece- like a year or two ago where he grabbed-
Joe Rogan 33:14 Daniel.
Shane Gillis 33:14 ... the mic after and started giving a fucking crazy speech? Oh, I don't remember that.
Joe Rogan 33:19 He did?
Shane Gillis 33:20 Yeah, he gave a little weird... After he lost, he like... Oh, wait. Was it, uh-
Joe Rogan 33:25 Daniel Dubois?
Shane Gillis 33:26 ... the Ukrainian? Was it-
Joe Rogan 33:27 Oh, Usyk?
Shane Gillis 33:28 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 33:28 Yeah, what did he say?
Shane Gillis 33:29 It was just kind of a weird thing to do after you lose, to grab the mic and talk to the crowd, and...
Joe Rogan 33:34 Well, I think it was in his hometown.
Shane Gillis 33:36 Oh, okay.
Joe Rogan 33:37 Uh, wasn't it? Wasn't it in London?
Shane Gillis 33:40 Definitely wasn't in fucking Usyk. (laughs)
Narrator 33:43 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 33:44 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 33:44 No, I'm not making fun of the war.
Joe Rogan 33:46 Yeah, I was like, "Yeah."
Shane Gillis 33:46 I'm just saying.
Joe Rogan 33:47 Exactly. Who the fuck's gonna travel there to see a fight? I think, um, that's probably why. You know, in, in England they like a, a loser who keeps his chin up. Like, a guy who loses.
Shane Gillis 34:00 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 34:00 You know?
Shane Gillis 34:00 That's why I do well over there. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 34:02 They like a respectable winner.
Shane Gillis 34:03 Yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 34:03 You know, who's respectable and shows good sportsmanship and, and, uh, good character after it's over.
Shane Gillis 34:09 I could be wrong. I just remember thinking it was odd. And, uh-
Joe Rogan 34:12 It's probably a cultural thing.
Narrator 34:13 He left... He left the ring and came back, and then they shook-
Joe Rogan 34:17 Oh.
Narrator 34:17 And then, I don't know what he says here, but he grabs the mic. I don't know if it's just like some...
Joe Rogan 34:21 Oh, here.
Shane Gillis 34:23 That's not on?
Narrator 34:24 Oh, my. Let's give him a round of applause. Oh, man. See, that's just emotion. Wait, wait, I'm talking.
Shane Gillis 34:31 (laughs)
Narrator 34:33 Sorry.
34:34 Got his flag on his back.
Shane Gillis 34:35 But I get it.
Narrator 34:35 Sorry, guys. Look, if you knew my story, you would understand the passion. I ain't no (beep) amateur boxer from five years old that was an elite prospect from my youth, bro. I was going to jail. I see some hype little youths in Reading Jail. I got bail and I started training (beep) 'cause if I got sentenced, I wanted to be able to fight. I bust my case. But Cousin Benga, where's he at? G14, raise your hand. I'm standing in Usyk. So-
Joe Rogan 35:04 Oh, I never saw this.
Narrator 35:05 ... but it's because (beep) -
Shane Gillis 35:06 He might take a dive, bro.
Narrator 35:08 ... how should we put into words-
Shane Gillis 35:08 (laughs) He's a wild motherfucker.
Narrator 35:09 Guys, I'm telling you, this guy, to be me tonight, maybe I could have done better. But it shows the levels of hard work he must have put in, so please give him a round of applause as our heavyweight champion of the world.
Shane Gillis 35:22 All right.
Joe Rogan 35:24 It's a little odd.
Shane Gillis 35:24 He's-
Joe Rogan 35:25 It, it does-
Narrator 35:25 He's, he's still going.
Shane Gillis 35:26 I will say this. I don't... You know, you just got in a fight.
Joe Rogan 35:30 Right, you just gotta cage rattle.
Shane Gillis 35:30 I used to cry whenever I got in a fight. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 35:33 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 35:33 So I can't, I can't judge anyone.
Joe Rogan 35:36 Right.
Shane Gillis 35:36 I would have given the same...
Narrator 35:37 Bro, you could have-
Shane Gillis 35:37 Dudes give that speech every time they lose a street fight. Every single time. They stand up, they go, "Let's get a beer together. Dude, this guy's a fucking ma-" You know?
Joe Rogan 35:45 Right, a little bit.
Shane Gillis 35:46 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 35:47 But that one... It's, it is a little weird. It's definitely weird. But there's some dudes, they just... Once they get the mic, they just wanna start talking.
Shane Gillis 35:55 I hear you.
Joe Rogan 35:55 You know?
Shane Gillis 35:56 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 35:56 There are dudes.
Shane Gillis 35:57 For sure.
Joe Rogan 35:57 There's like s- some dudes that I have to interview in the UFC-
Shane Gillis 35:59 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 36:00 And the, the UFC is like, "Last question. Stop. This... No more questions. We gotta cu-" 'Cause like, they gotta cut to commercial.
Shane Gillis 36:06 I like those, though.
Joe Rogan 36:07 Oh, some of them are great.
Shane Gillis 36:07 I like when the guy grabs the mic and just starts screaming and talking. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 36:10 Some of them are great.
Shane Gillis 36:11 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 36:11 Some of them are great. But I get-
Shane Gillis 36:12 But I get-
Joe Rogan 36:12 Chael Sonnen fucking mastered it.
Shane Gillis 36:14 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 36:14 He was the first guy. He was the first guy to figure it out. He was the first guy to figure out how to cut like a pro-wrestling-type promo...... in, inside the cage. Like, "Anderson Silva, you absolutely suck."
Shane Gillis 36:27 (laughs) Yeah.
Joe Rogan 36:27 Everybody's like, "What is going on here?"
Shane Gillis 36:30 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 36:30 He's the greatest of all time.
Shane Gillis 36:30 He's so funny.
Joe Rogan 36:32 Yeah. It was, he, Chael was awesome, man.
Shane Gillis 36:34 He might have, who's funnier than him? McGregor, McGregor was up there.
Joe Rogan 36:37 Uh, McGregor was really funny. McGregor took shit talking to a whole new level.
Shane Gillis 36:41 Yes. But I feel like Chael was-
Joe Rogan 36:42 But Chael opened the fucking door.
Shane Gillis 36:44 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 36:45 He's the OG. He's the OG of MMA shit talking, for sure. And still, like, the most clever at it. You know? He's very clever.
Shane Gillis 36:53 Yeah. The fucking-
Joe Rogan 36:54 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 36:54 ... the Brazilians thinking a bus was a horse.
Joe Rogan 36:55 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 36:56 It's so fucking funny.
Joe Rogan 36:58 Because then they tried to feed it a carrot. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 36:59 (laughs) It's like a good, it's a good bit, dude.
Joe Rogan 37:04 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 37:04 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 37:06 He's quite a character, man.
Shane Gillis 37:08 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 37:08 He's quite a fucking character.
Shane Gillis 37:09 Yeah. McGregor's shit talk, yeah, the, "Who the fuck is that guy?" His current shit talk's my favorite.
Joe Rogan 37:15 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 37:15 I love what he's up to. Fucking Ilia Tatoro.
Joe Rogan 37:19 Pff. Ba, ba, ba, bap. Do you think he's gonna fight-
Shane Gillis 37:22 It's like the vehicle move.
Joe Rogan 37:22 He keeps talk-
Shane Gillis 37:24 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 37:24 He keeps talking about making it to the White House, but I just...
Shane Gillis 37:28 I hope he gets to the White House. I'm, I'm gonna do my best to go to that fight.
Joe Rogan 37:31 I hope that's, I hope he does that, and that's it.
Shane Gillis 37:33 I'm not saying anything.
Joe Rogan 37:33 And the Michael Chandler one is a good one. That's a smart, that's a smart one.
Shane Gillis 37:36 That'd be a fun one.
Joe Rogan 37:37 It's a marketable one 'cause everybody knows they were supposed to fight years ago-
Shane Gillis 37:40 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 37:40 ... when they did the Ultimate Fighter together. And also, Chandler's still fucking dangerous as shit. He's not washed.
Shane Gillis 37:47 Not at all.
Joe Rogan 37:47 He's not, he's not in his prime, but he's like 38 or 39 years old now.
Shane Gillis 37:51 Oh, get wild in that fight.
Joe Rogan 37:52 Yeah. He's a dangerous guy. He's crazy fit, too.
Shane Gillis 37:55 And he loves America, dude. Get him in front of the-
Joe Rogan 37:57 Oh, yeah.
Shane Gillis 37:57 ... fucking White House.
Joe Rogan 37:58 Oh, yeah.
Shane Gillis 37:58 He's gonna, he's gonna cry after the fight.
Joe Rogan 38:00 Oh, he'll cry.
Shane Gillis 38:00 Yeah. He'll get nuts.
Joe Rogan 38:01 Yeah. And he, he will do everything within his power to try to beat Conor.
Shane Gillis 38:05 Yeah. I'm gonna not, not say anything bad about Trump until that fight.
Joe Rogan 38:09 Da... (laughs)
Shane Gillis 38:09 I need to be at that fight. Then I'm gonna go, "Yo, that fucking bullshit tweet, that sucked."
Joe Rogan 38:14 Bro, look what, uh, Mamdoni called him, a fascist, and he had him in the Oval Office.
Shane Gillis 38:18 True.
Joe Rogan 38:18 And, did you see that?
Shane Gillis 38:19 True.
Joe Rogan 38:19 And he's like, "You said, pre-, the, the," Ch- Donald Trump, he's like, "It's okay. Just go ahead and say it."
Shane Gillis 38:23 Just say it. Fuck it.
Joe Rogan 38:24 Just say it.
Shane Gillis 38:24 Bro.
Joe Rogan 38:25 He didn't care.
Trump White House plaques, Rob Reiner backlash, and “don’t make deportations funny”
Shane Gillis 38:25 I hate to get on Trump stuff, but have you seen the plaques?
Joe Rogan 38:29 No.
Shane Gillis 38:29 (sighs)
Joe Rogan 38:29 I heard about it.
Shane Gillis 38:30 (sighs)
Joe Rogan 38:32 So, his plaque's-
Shane Gillis 38:32 All right.
Joe Rogan 38:32 ... under everybody's name?
Shane Gillis 38:34 Yeah. Yeah. He's kind of trashing every other president. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 38:37 And what is he... He trashes them all?
Shane Gillis 38:40 It'll write, like... He, the Clinton one I read, he kin- he talks about Andrew Jackson. I saw the Andrew Jackson and Clinton ones. The Clinton one is like, basically like, he kinda got lucky with the economy because of the fucking tech boom. Also then, at the end, he's like, "And then his wife tried to run against Donald Trump and lost." (laughs) Like...
Joe Rogan 38:58 (groans) That's a plaque?
Shane Gillis 39:02 Yeah.
Narrator 39:02 Let's see. Uh, Clinton's wife Hillary lost the presidency.
Joe Rogan 39:07 Huh.
Narrator 39:08 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 39:08 Does it really say he got lucky? Like, who's writing these things?
Shane Gillis 39:11 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 39:11 He's not writing them. He wrote 'em with me.
Shane Gillis 39:14 Sleepy Joe Biden. (laughs)
Narrator 39:16 By far the worst president in American history.
Joe Rogan 39:17 Sleepy Joe Biden, it says that?
Narrator 39:17 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 39:17 Oh, my God. He is writing it. Oh, no, no. Let me read it from the top.
Narrator 39:22 Yeah, okay.
Joe Rogan 39:22 This is so crazy. This i- that this is underneath a photo in the White House is so crazy. Look at this. "Sleepy Joe Biden was by far the worst president in American history."
Shane Gillis 39:38 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 39:39 (laughs) This is so crazy. "Taking office as a result of the most corrupt election ever seen in the United States-"
Narrator 39:45 That's an interesting take.
Joe Rogan 39:45 "... Biden oversaw a series of unprecedented disaster..." What's the matter with ya, Jim?
Narrator 39:49 Elections capitalized? Weird.
Joe Rogan 39:50 Yeah, it is weird. Uh, "Unprecedented disasters that brought our nation to the brink of destruction. His policies caused the highest inflation ever recorded, leading the US dollar to lose more than 20% of its value in four years. His green news scam surr- (laughs) surrendered American energy dominance. And by abolishing the southern bordern, border, (clears throat) Biden let 21 million people from all over the world pour into the United States, including from prisons, jails, mental institutions and insane asylums." Isn't that... Like, he said two things that are the same thing.
Shane Gillis 40:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan 40:25 (laughs) For both of them.
Shane Gillis 40:26 Jails, prisons.
Joe Rogan 40:27 Yeah. Mental institutions-
Shane Gillis 40:28 (laughs) Yeah.
Joe Rogan 40:30 ... and insane asylums. "His Afghanistan disaster was amongst the most humiliating events in American history, and resulted in the murder of 13 brave American service members, which many other, many others gravely wounded, seeing, with many others gravely moo- gravely mooned." Sh- What's wrong with me? "Seeing Biden's devastating weakness, uh, Russia invaded Ukraine, and Hamas terrorists launched their heinous October 7th attack on Israel." This is crazy. "Nicknamed both Sleepy and Crooked, by you."
Shane Gillis 41:01 (laughs) By you.
Joe Rogan 41:01 (laughs) By who? Nicknamed? Like, the whole public got together, "I got a name for this guy."
Narrator 41:07 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 41:08 "Was dominated by his radical Left handlers." Look how radical left is in caps, too. "They and their allies in the fake news media attempted to cover up his severe mental decline and unprecedented use of Autopen."
Shane Gillis 41:24 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 41:25 This is so crazy. Th- you shouldn't be allowed to do this. Right? It should be like historians say, "This guy was president from ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba."
Shane Gillis 41:34 Oh wait, what's it say at the end of that? Does it say, "Donald Trump saved America"?
Joe Rogan 41:38 "Despite all, President Trump would get reelected in a landslide and save America," in all caps.
Shane Gillis 41:45 It's...
Joe Rogan 41:45 That's a plaque.
Shane Gillis 41:46 He's not-
Joe Rogan 41:46 In the White House.
Shane Gillis 41:47 He's not beating the, uh, dictator charges. This is like an African dictator show. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 41:52 Bro, this is crazy.
Shane Gillis 41:53 This is crazy.
Narrator 41:53 They're also changing the na- I think they're changing the name of the Kennedy Center to the Trump Kennedy Center.
Joe Rogan 41:57 Oh, boy.
Shane Gillis 42:01 (sighs)
Joe Rogan 42:02 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 42:02 Whoops.
Narrator 42:03 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 42:03 Somebo- somebody needs to tell him, like, "Hey, this is not good. You can't do that." Because then other people could do that too, and then the White House stops being the White House, and it becomes whoever is in its house, where he could just go crazy and say everybody else is a crook.
Shane Gillis 42:20 I don't think anyone's gonna do what he's doing.... I don't think there's g- I mean, look, look-
Joe Rogan 42:24 God, I hope not.
Shane Gillis 42:25 ... of course, of course.
Joe Rogan 42:25 But it opens up ... The problem is it opens up the door for someone on the left to do v- their version of it.
Shane Gillis 42:31 Who, who's gonna be the Democrat ... Who's next? Fucking Gavin Newsom? He's not gonna fucking put up a plaque.
Joe Rogan 42:37 Of course he would. Of course he would. He copies everything that Trump does. He even tries to talk like Trump on Twitter. You don't think-
Shane Gillis 42:42 Oh, okay.
Joe Rogan 42:42 ... that he would put up plaques that talk about how corrupt Trump was? And am- about how terrible, and he was quoted as lying over five thousand times-
Shane Gillis 42:50 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 42:50 ... by Washington Post ma- ... Well, you know.
Shane Gillis 42:51 Yeah, but he doesn't have to put up a plaque. That'll just be everywhere. You know what I mean?
Joe Rogan 42:56 I mean, but he could put that under his photo, though. Like, that's never been a thing that people did before.
Shane Gillis 43:01 For sure.
Joe Rogan 43:01 Right? I mean-
Shane Gillis 43:02 Probably.
Joe Rogan 43:02 ... I'm guessing. What was it before?
Narrator 43:05 He added that, uh, Ronald Reagan was a fan of President Trump's long before his historic run for the White House.
Joe Rogan 43:12 Oh. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 43:13 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 43:13 (laughs) That's ... But that's so disturbing. That's such crazy thinking.
Shane Gillis 43:20 What fucking lackey put that shit up and was like, "Do you like this?" Of course he's gonna fucking like it.
Joe Rogan 43:27 Bro, he wrote it. What are you talking about? You don't think he wrote it? You think a lackey wrote it?
Shane Gillis 43:32 I, I don't ... fuck if I know. I don't know what's going on.
Joe Rogan 43:34 Bro, it's ... Whoever's writing his tweets wrote that.
Shane Gillis 43:37 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 43:38 Same shit.
Shane Gillis 43:39 He's gotta be writing his tweets.
Joe Rogan 43:41 I th- I think they made a video of it, right?
Shane Gillis 43:43 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 43:44 So, the video is like, he says things and someone types it out for him.
Shane Gillis 43:49 He fucked up on Twitter this week.
Joe Rogan 43:51 What, with the Rob Reiner thing?
Shane Gillis 43:52 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 43:52 Yeah, that's crazy. It's all crazy.
Shane Gillis 43:55 Every ... Like, so if he didn't do the Rob Reiner thing and then put up those plaques, I'd be like, "Ah, that's funny." But then the Rob Reiner thing, you're like, "Goddammit, dude."
Joe Rogan 44:03 Well, the plaques are crazy.
Shane Gillis 44:04 The plaques are crazy. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 44:05 The plaques are crazy. It's like you're ... The White House is supposed to be where each new president ... You, you ... The new guy comes in. He won the new election. Congratulations. Let me show you around. This is what it's like.
Narrator 44:21 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 44:22 These are all the photos. What's funny? (laughs) Joe-
Shane Gillis 44:24 (laughs) Another good one.
Joe Rogan 44:25 Joe Biden's plaques are loud, but-
Narrator 44:26 I think this ... The Chin- look at the ph- I think that's the photo for Joe Biden.
Joe Rogan 44:29 It's an autopen?
Narrator 44:30 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 44:32 Okay. That's ...
Narrator 44:34 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 44:34 Fuck.
Joe Rogan 44:34 That's so crazy.
Narrator 44:35 Definitely.
Joe Rogan 44:36 That's so crazy.
Shane Gillis 44:37 Yeah, but again, it's still funny.
Joe Rogan 44:39 When he does crazy shit-
Narrator 44:40 It's ki- ... It's-
Shane Gillis 44:40 When he does crazy shit-
Joe Rogan 44:41 Yes.
Shane Gillis 44:41 ... and it's funny-
Joe Rogan 44:41 It's funny.
Shane Gillis 44:42 ... I like it.
Joe Rogan 44:43 Right. But the Rob Reiner-
Shane Gillis 44:45 I don't buy that, but it's funny. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 44:45 The Rob Reiner thing is not funny. Right?
Shane Gillis 44:47 No.
Joe Rogan 44:48 And that's like the same thing.
Shane Gillis 44:49 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 44:50 It's the same kind of thinking. And when you, but when you see it with no empathy, that's when it's hard to like.
Shane Gillis 44:55 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 44:55 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 44:56 I wish he could apologize. I know he can't-
Joe Rogan 44:59 No.
Shane Gillis 44:59 ... and he won't.
Joe Rogan 45:00 He's ... Listen, there's no justification for what he did that makes any sense in a compassionate society. It's no different than people that were celebrating when Charlie Kirk got shot. Like-
Shane Gillis 45:08 That's what ... Yeah-
Joe Rogan 45:09 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 45:09 ... that's the thing that bothers me is like-
Joe Rogan 45:10 It's the same kind of thing.
Shane Gillis 45:10 Bro, it'd be like if Obama tweeted ...
Joe Rogan 45:13 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 45:13 Yeah. Rest in piss. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 45:14 Imagine, imagine. Oh, my God, imagine. Imagine if Obama tweeted, you know, something about someone, you know, after they died in, in this way, that this person was a deranged ... The person that hated Obama, and he wrote Obama with like-
Shane Gillis 45:28 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 45:28 ... all caps. (laughs) Imagine if Obama talked like Trump.
Shane Gillis 45:33 I would love if Obama ... (laughs) Yeah.
Joe Rogan 45:33 Imagine if Obama talked like Trump. "They hated Obama."
Shane Gillis 45:38 He'd be-
Joe Rogan 45:38 Like, that was his thing?
Shane Gillis 45:39 Oh ...
Joe Rogan 45:39 That he talks about himself in third person.
Shane Gillis 45:41 Oh, that'd hate me. Yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 45:42 That would be crazy. It just shows you how crazy it is the way Trump thinks and talks. It's just like, the guy got sliced up by his kid, you know?
Shane Gillis 45:54 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 45:54 And anybody that doesn't see that and go, "Fuck, man."
Shane Gillis 45:58 Yeah, it's the worst.
Joe Rogan 45:58 It's a ... You know.
Shane Gillis 45:59 Also, the kid's claiming not guilty right now.
Joe Rogan 46:02 Oh, cool. Okay.
Shane Gillis 46:04 (laughs) I like it.
Joe Rogan 46:04 By reason of what?
Shane Gillis 46:05 I like the move. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 46:07 Oh, boy. It's so, it's so, it's so dark, man.
Shane Gillis 46:11 Yeah, it's really fucking horrendous.
Joe Rogan 46:12 But on the other side of it, the, the Rob Reiner thing was crazy because Rob Reiner like made it a mission to try to get Trump out of office and to try to get Trump arrested and-
Shane Gillis 46:24 Sure.
Joe Rogan 46:24 ... there's this really weird video where he's sitting there with, uh, John Brennan and James Clapper, these two top dog spooks.
Shane Gillis 46:34 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 46:35 And they're talking about how this is like unacceptable that Trump is president. I'm like, "This is a crazy thing to ..." And like high production value.
Shane Gillis 46:43 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 46:44 So it's like all filmed together. They're, they're coming up with reasons why they have to remove Trump from office. Maybe they do something-
Shane Gillis 46:50 Yeah. Look, all that sucked. I think that sucked.
Joe Rogan 46:54 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 46:54 But then, dude, you get murdered next to your wife by your son ...
Joe Rogan 46:57 Horrible. Yeah.
Shane Gillis 46:58 That's like the worst thing possible.
Joe Rogan 47:00 The worst-
Shane Gillis 47:02 And then the, the president ...
Joe Rogan 47:03 Right. It's a crazy thing-
Shane Gillis 47:05 Whatever.
Joe Rogan 47:05 ... to, to put out.
Shane Gillis 47:06 By the time this episode comes out, we'll have moved on.
Joe Rogan 47:09 Yeah, but it seems like-
Shane Gillis 47:10 That's how it works.
Joe Rogan 47:10 ... you know ... It, it seems like whenever something like that happens where someone is happy that someone died, so, so many people just ... Y- y- you, you feel so disappointed, you know? You just feel like-
Shane Gillis 47:25 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 47:25 ... because that's so disappointing.
Shane Gillis 47:27 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 47:28 It's like why, why ... If you, if you say that privately, that's one thing, which is also crazy-
Shane Gillis 47:34 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 47:34 But it's so disappointing. I mean, someone would have to be the worst person ever and then you're like, "You know what? Fuck that guy." But ... Jesus.
Shane Gillis 47:44 Yeah, that's ...
Joe Rogan 47:45 And the way it happened too. Like, yo.
Shane Gillis 47:49 The way it happened makes it-
Joe Rogan 47:50 His son?
Shane Gillis 47:51 ... makes it ten times worse.
Joe Rogan 47:52 Oh, God. And you know there was another guy?
Shane Gillis 47:54 If he died, if he died in like a funny way ...
Joe Rogan 47:56 Right.
Shane Gillis 47:56 (laughs) I mean, it was ... (laughs)
Joe Rogan 47:58 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 48:00 You know?
Joe Rogan 48:00 Right, right, right.
Shane Gillis 48:01 Then it would be dif- ... If he, if he was like, "I'm gonna fucking, uh, parachute out of a plane."
Joe Rogan 48:06 Right.
Shane Gillis 48:07 There you go.
Joe Rogan 48:07 Something stupid.
Shane Gillis 48:08 There you go.
Joe Rogan 48:08 Like, "Oh, he's bungee jumping." He lied about his weight.
Shane Gillis 48:11 But then-
Joe Rogan 48:12 Snap.
Shane Gillis 48:12 ... then the worst possible way to die.
Joe Rogan 48:14 The worst possible way to die. I mean, your own child.
Shane Gillis 48:17 And he, and he did, before all the political shit, he did rule.
Joe Rogan 48:21 Oh, he had amazing moves, man.
Shane Gillis 48:21 He fucking ruled.
Joe Rogan 48:22 The guy made amazing moves.
Shane Gillis 48:23 He ruled.
Joe Rogan 48:24 I mean, let's, let's bring up Rob Reiner's filmography. How many great ... He wanted to come on the podcast.
Shane Gillis 48:31 ... and talk about JFK.
Joe Rogan 48:33 That would've been sick.
Shane Gillis 48:34 Yeah. Um, I don't know why that never happened. What, what films did he do?
Narrator 48:43 Started off with, I don't think, Spinal Tap might've been the first one. But, uh, Princess Bride-
Joe Rogan 48:47 Spinal Tap.
Narrator 48:47 ... Stand By Me.
Joe Rogan 48:48 Oh, Stand By-
Shane Gillis 48:48 Okay. Stand By Me-
Narrator 48:50 Princess Bride.
Shane Gillis 48:50 ... and Princess Bride, two of the greatest movies of all time.
Joe Rogan 48:51 Few Good Men? Wait, he made A Few Good Men?
Shane Gillis 48:54 Bro, Misery? He did Misery?
Narrator 48:56 Um...
Shane Gillis 48:56 Fucking amazing movie.
Narrator 48:58 Let me see. This one's, yeah, I don't...
Joe Rogan 48:59 Was he a producer on A Few Good Men?
Narrator 49:00 This is probably the... Let me make sure. Directors? Which one? 'Cause he did a lot of stuff too. He's been in movies, um, directed them. So here you go, like writer, predictor... Or sorry, producer, writer, director, different on all of them.
Joe Rogan 49:14 He did direct a few. Man.
Narrator 49:16 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 49:16 Yeah, dude. He, he made some bangers. When Harry Met Sally.
Narrator 49:21 He was the dad in Wolf of Wall Street.
Joe Rogan 49:23 He was hilarious in that.
Shane Gillis 49:24 Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about that.
Narrator 49:28 Um, Spinal Tap was supposed to come out. I think I read they put that on hold right now.
Joe Rogan 49:32 (sighs) Bro.
Shane Gillis 49:34 Yeah, horrendous. That's, that's like w- y- you-
Joe Rogan 49:37 Yeah. Don't, don't put anything out.
Shane Gillis 49:39 There's certain things-
Joe Rogan 49:39 Like, someone take his fucking phone.
Shane Gillis 49:41 Yeah. There are certain things the administration does that I'm just like, "Dan, you can't, you can't defend it." Like the...
Joe Rogan 49:48 Right.
Shane Gillis 49:48 Like the... I don't think it's the administration necessarily, but they've definitely allowed it to happen, where like, fucking ICE is making funny videos about deporting people.
Joe Rogan 49:56 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 49:57 And then like, like shit like this. Like, damn, dude. That's fucking terrible.
Joe Rogan 50:00 Bro, they, they used Theo.
Shane Gillis 50:01 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 50:02 They used Theo in a, a totally unrelated clip.
Shane Gillis 50:07 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 50:07 That like, some lady said, uh, "My friend, uh, has to leave the country. Will you make a video?"
Shane Gillis 50:12 (laughs)
Narrator 50:12 "Because I heard she got deported."
Shane Gillis 50:13 I, I mean, I knew that video existed-
Narrator 50:15 Ha!
Shane Gillis 50:15 ... before... Yeah. I'm the one editing the DHS video. (laughs)
Narrator 50:19 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 50:20 (laughs) It's just Theo being funny.
Shane Gillis 50:21 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 50:21 And you... They use that in this ICE thing, and Theo's like, "Whoa." And he had a really good response too. He got them to take it down, but his, uh, response... See if you can find it. Something that his, uh, opinions on immigration are much more nuanced.
Shane Gillis 50:37 I mean, that's the truth though. It's like, yeah, sure, illegal immigrations... We should fix that.
Joe Rogan 50:42 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 50:43 Don't fucking make it funny.
Joe Rogan 50:44 Yeah, don't make funny videos.
Shane Gillis 50:46 It's a serious thing.
Narrator 50:46 It's very serious thing.
Shane Gillis 50:46 It's a serious thing you're doing.
Joe Rogan 50:47 Yeah. Why would you make it funny at all?
Shane Gillis 50:49 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 50:49 Like, is the thought like that, that'll make it popular on TikTok and it'll spread that way? Is that the thought? That it'll be a... That video will get people to want to sign up for ICE?
Shane Gillis 50:58 I don't know. I think a lot of those, a lot of those people are obviously just weird fucking psychos that are in that world. I don't know. Whatever.
Brown University shooting rumors, campus cameras, deporting students for op-eds, and Georgia vote-signature claims
Joe Rogan 51:04 I heard something that I don't know if it's true. Um, (clears throat) it was about the Brown shooting, the Brown University shooting. And it's people claiming that the, the, uh, security cameras had been disabled.
Shane Gillis 51:23 Yes.
Narrator 51:24 I was trying to get Theo's tweet. Here's just the quote of what it said though for you.
Joe Rogan 51:27 Yo.
Narrator 51:27 ... in the past day.
Joe Rogan 51:28 It says, "DHS, I didn't approve to be used in this. I know you know my address, so send a check, and please take this down, and please keep me out of your banger deportation videos."
Narrator 51:38 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 51:38 "Vaughan said on his X account. When it comes to immigration, my thoughts and heart are a lot more nuanced than this video allows. Bye, Vaughn added." Perfect response.
Shane Gillis 51:48 Calling them banger videos is hilarious.
Joe Rogan 51:49 Yeah, they're, they're ridiculous.
Shane Gillis 51:51 Yeah, they suck.
Joe Rogan 51:52 They suck. It's like, why are you doing that? W- I thought you were trying to get rid of like the worst people in the world. You're not trying to be entertaining. Like, the job is to get rid of the worst people in the world. Like, but... Th- that's what we're... You know, that's what we wanted.
Shane Gillis 52:04 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 52:05 We wanted them to get rid of cartel members and terrorists, the worst people in the world. That's who we were hoping for.
Shane Gillis 52:10 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 52:10 But then it's like, anybody. I bet they have quotas. I bet they're, they're told.
Shane Gillis 52:16 Certainly.
Joe Rogan 52:16 They mu- I bet they do.
Shane Gillis 52:17 Without a doubt. Without a doubt.
Joe Rogan 52:18 Whenever you give a quota (laughs) to w- enforcing a law... (sighs) You get-
Shane Gillis 52:23 That's bad news.
Joe Rogan 52:24 You get into weird territory. That's when cops pull people over for bullshit.
Shane Gillis 52:27 Yeah. It's how most of my buddies got DUIs. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 52:31 Cops needed a quota?
Shane Gillis 52:31 All my friends. Yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 52:32 They just took a chance?
Shane Gillis 52:33 Me and, me and Jamie were just talking about that, how... Just our hometown. I just miss it.
Joe Rogan 52:39 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 52:39 I was built... I, that's what I was built for.
Joe Rogan 52:41 Hometowns.
Shane Gillis 52:42 9:00 to 5:00 and then go to a bar.
Joe Rogan 52:45 That's what you were built for?
Shane Gillis 52:46 Sit there and-
Joe Rogan 52:46 Did you miss those days?
Shane Gillis 52:47 I missed it s- a lot.
Joe Rogan 52:49 Really?
Shane Gillis 52:49 I missed the going to the bar.
Joe Rogan 52:51 Just for fun.
Shane Gillis 52:51 Just sitting there going-
Joe Rogan 52:52 Just hanging out. Yeah.
Shane Gillis 52:52 "Bro, we had... We could've beat Lancaster Catholic. That was fucking crazy."
Joe Rogan 52:56 Mm-hmm.
Shane Gillis 52:56 "We lost that fucking..." (laughs) That's what I'm gonna talk about when I get home.
Joe Rogan 52:59 That's funny.
Shane Gillis 52:59 For Christmas. Yeah.
Joe Rogan 53:00 That's funny. You look forward to that?
Shane Gillis 53:03 I do. Shit rules.
Joe Rogan 53:05 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 53:05 My high school buddies, they all have families now. Yeah. It's ni- especially when your friends get families, it's nice to go, go out with them. They, when you see them get that one night off, you go, "Oh, this guy's about to fucking black out." (laughs)
Joe Rogan 53:19 (laughs)
Shane Gillis 53:19 "This is gonna be crazy." I have somebody... I have friends come to shows and just fall apart.
Joe Rogan 53:25 That's hilarious.
Shane Gillis 53:27 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 53:27 That's so funny.
Shane Gillis 53:28 But yeah, no, sorry about the... Derailing it from that actual conversation.
Joe Rogan 53:32 No, it's okay. I don't even remember what we were talking about.
Shane Gillis 53:34 What are you talking about?
Narrator 53:34 The security cameras.
Shane Gillis 53:35 Oh, yeah. The Brown-
Joe Rogan 53:36 Oh. The Brown University thing.
Narrator 53:37 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 53:38 Now, what, why did they have the security cameras? Why were they disabled? Because I don't even want to say what I've, what I read.
Shane Gillis 53:44 The thing online was saying that... Yeah, it was ICE.
Joe Rogan 53:46 Yeah. That it was... Because they wanted to stop ICE from using the feed to locate illegals that are working on the campus maybe, or maybe citizens that are... Or, or s- students rather-
Shane Gillis 53:58 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 53:58 ... that are, uh... 'Cause they've done some wild shit. Like they d- I don't know if they wind up deporting that lady, but they were trying to deport that lady because she was a student and she wrote a, an essay that was critical of Israel.
Shane Gillis 54:11 Oh. Yeah.
Joe Rogan 54:12 Yeah.
Narrator 54:13 Any response from their officials, I guess?
54:16 Um, called on lack of CC-
54:17 ... keep that in mind. And they want to know how a school with a $9 billion endowment does not have cameras on one of the older buildings at the edge of the camera... Edge of the campus where this happened. Not even in the front door. Who d- who's coming and going? Now, they ask this question knowing that the shooter may have done whatever he wanted.... but the cameras, A, would have deterred, or B, captured, hit a better look at him and we wouldn't be here today, five days out. I want you to explain that, because there's a lot of parents who are wondering where are you investing your money?
54:50 Yeah, I appreciate that question, and I want to reiterate, as our president did, that supporting our students and communicating to the parents, to our community about our support is of utmost importance. Um, we have 1,200 cameras located throughout the campus. We don't publish the locations of the cameras. That would give a map to somebody to evade detection on the cameras. So, that would be counterproductive to do that. There are cameras in this building and as I answered the previous question, we have turned over all evidence that we are holding at Brown to law enforcement and are cooperating fully with them.
55:25 So, you're saying that there's a camera, using the cameras in the building, I was told yesterday there wasn't cameras in the building. The Attorney General said old business-
Joe Rogan 55:32 I'm on camera right now, you fucker.
Narrator 55:33 ... to a new building with cameras.
55:35 I believe he said that there were two different phases of the building that might have two different levels of technology. Again, all video imagery has been turned over to law enforcement.
55:45 That doesn't make sense to me.
55:45 For many people, I'm just going to say that.
Joe Rogan 55:48 Okay, this is contradictory to what I read. What I read was that somebody had disabled them. Um, so he was saying there is cameras and they turned over all footage.
Shane Gillis 55:58 There's got to be cameras.
Joe Rogan 55:59 But the thing is like, when you hear a story like they disabled it for ICE, like is that story total bullshit? And is that story designed to get people to tweet that out-
Shane Gillis 56:08 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 56:08 ... so that other people start believing it?
Shane Gillis 56:10 For sure.
Joe Rogan 56:11 Hmm.
Shane Gillis 56:12 They were naming the fucking shooter, I thought... Did you see that?
Joe Rogan 56:16 Yeah. How'd they name him so quick?
Shane Gillis 56:17 Before they got, no, before they got the Portuguese guy.
Joe Rogan 56:20 Oh, really? They were naming a different shooter?
Shane Gillis 56:21 Yeah, just named some, uh, yeah.
Joe Rogan 56:23 Well, oh no. (laughs)
Shane Gillis 56:25 (laughs) Yeah.
Joe Rogan 56:25 Who's the different guy?
Shane Gillis 56:26 I was all over it. I was going, "This motherfucker. How dare you?" (laughs)
Joe Rogan 56:29 Who was the different guy?
Shane Gillis 56:30 Uh, it was a kid that was in like, uh, protests and shit, like a Gaza kid.
Joe Rogan 56:36 (sighs)
Shane Gillis 56:37 So, they instantly named him and, yeah, whatever. It's all-
Joe Rogan 56:40 So, he's gonna get paid?
Shane Gillis 56:42 He should.
Joe Rogan 56:43 Oh, yeah.
Shane Gillis 56:44 He should.
Joe Rogan 56:44 Remember the Atlanta one, where the guy, they, they ruined his life and they said he was a bomber? It was just a security guard.
Shane Gillis 56:50 Oh, yeah.
Joe Rogan 56:51 Remember that guy?
Shane Gillis 56:51 Yeah, the movie, uh...
Joe Rogan 56:52 Yeah.
Shane Gillis 56:54 Fuck is his name?
Joe Rogan 56:55 I, I forget his name too, but I remember the real story.
Shane Gillis 56:58 Walter, Paul Walter Hauser plays him in, uh... I hope I'm getting that name right. I know that guy. He's, he's the man.
Narrator 57:04 Uh...
57:04 Uh, Richard Jewell?
Shane Gillis 57:06 Richard Jewell.
Narrator 57:07 I was there that day.
Shane Gillis 57:09 You were in Atlanta?
Narrator 57:09 Yeah, I was there, actually.
Joe Rogan 57:12 That's crazy.
Narrator 57:14 Where are you coming from?
Joe Rogan 57:14 (laughs) That's crazy.
Shane Gillis 57:14 (Laughs) Dude, what?
Narrator 57:14 We w- yeah, when we were headed home, the only reason we weren't there when it went off is because we couldn't get, scalp tickets to watch the Dream Team play. The guy, they, we were trying to buy them from ripped them up in front of my dad and just threw him in the fucking sewer. We're like, "What?" Who does that?
Shane Gillis 57:26 Yo, you are, you are Ohio-
Narrator 57:26 They could have had fake tickets, but-
Shane Gillis 57:27 You are Ohio trash. You went to the Olympics to scalp Dream Team tickets. (laughs)
Narrator 57:30 No, we went to other stuff, but like, we didn't have tickets to that game.
Shane Gillis 57:33 Oh, okay.
Narrator 57:34 So, like, we were like, "Let's find tickets to the game."
Shane Gillis 57:35 What else did you see?
Narrator 57:36 Like, a volleyball game and, uh, a baseball game.
Shane Gillis 57:38 Those are good.
Joe Rogan 57:39 Richard Jewell, right?
Shane Gillis 57:40 Yeah, Richard Jewell.
Narrator 57:40 Yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan 57:41 Um, I just sent you this thing.
Narrator 57:43 Yeah, I found a thing on Twitter about it. It says there was like, an open letter in August that anti-ICE protesters wanted, uh, the cameras disabled, but I didn't see that it actually happened is all. I'll find your message.
Shane Gillis 57:56 Bro, (laughs) it's all weird.
Narrator 57:59 Yeah, I'm actually looking at it right now.
Shane Gillis 58:01 I've kind of checked out.
Joe Rogan 58:04 Let me hear this.
Narrator 58:05 Oh.
Joe Rogan 58:06 Human rights group...
Narrator 58:07 Yeah, that's what I was looking at.
Joe Rogan 58:08 To uni- human rights group to university administrators: Dismantle surveillance to defend free speech now. Huh?
Narrator 58:15 I don't know if they did it.
Joe Rogan 58:16 What does that mean?
Narrator 58:17 That was on the building that Brown put up because the sanctuary city law that we have, you don't want to deport illegal immigrants and you don't want to provide the footage to the FBI or immigration authority. One camera in that building, it come out from your detectives, they're a friend of mine, they're angry at this investigation, that these people in Brown University put the camera up that can identify the person. You imagine how the family is going to go through?
Shane Gillis 58:43 We-
Narrator 58:43 Tell the truth, and, and to the media here. You guys should check, putting cameras up and not doing anything.
58:48 There was one, we heard from both the Brown police chief.
58:51 Isn't that where that girl got taken for writing the letter, right when this all started? Wasn't she a Brown student or something?
Joe Rogan 58:59 Was it... I thought it was Columbia. I don't remember, though. I don't remember, though.
Narrator 59:03 I was gonna say, that's what this has to be. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 59:03 See if you can find that story, 'cause that story is also fucking crazy. Like, you're deporting a student for having an opinion about a world war? It's a war that's happening, right?
Shane Gillis 59:13 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 59:13 At least from one side of it.
Shane Gillis 59:15 True.
Joe Rogan 59:16 Like, having an opinion is a problem that gets you ejected from the country?
Shane Gillis 59:20 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 59:20 Like, especially, you're at a university, which is supposed to be a place where ideas get challenged.
Shane Gillis 59:25 Yeah. Yeah, it turns out every, both sides are totally hypocritical and doing exactly what the other side did, and whatever.
Joe Rogan 59:34 It's interesting because we're getting to see it, um, more clearly than we've ever seen it before. Right?
Shane Gillis 59:43 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 59:44 It seems like it.
Narrator 59:46 I think it was Tufts University.
Joe Rogan 59:47 Tufts. Arrested and detained by, uh, ICE agents in Somerville, Massachusetts. What did she say?
Narrator 59:56 Uh, she wrote out something in the newspaper, I think, like the school newspaper.
Joe Rogan 59:59 Right, but what was-
Narrator 1:00:00 An op-ed.
Joe Rogan 1:00:01 But what was it?
Narrator 1:00:02 Oh.
Joe Rogan 1:00:02 Let's see if we can read it. I wonder what, what got her deported. What were the words?
Narrator 1:00:12 Op-ed criticizing leadership.
Joe Rogan 1:00:13 "She criticized Tufts leadership response to the Tufts Community Union Senate passing several resolutions concerning human rights violations in Gaza. Months after the op-ed was written, and just weeks before she was detained, the website Canary Mission, uh, published a profile on Ms.," I don't know how to say her name, "Ozturk, including her photograph claiming she engaged in anti-Israel activism. It's sole support for the contention was a link in screenshots of her op-ed. When asked about her case, Secretary of State Marco Rubio confirmed revoking her visa, adding, 'We gave you a visa to come and study and get a degree, not to become a social activist that tears up our university campuses.'"
Narrator 1:00:54 Shut up, Marco. You fool, yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:00:55 So she was asking- Put that up again, please. So she was asking- she was criticizing Tufts' leadership's response to the Tufts' Community Union Senate passing several resolutions. So, she must be a part of the Tufts' Community Union Senate, or s- or someone is. So they passed several resolutions concerning human rights violations. So, like, what is- but like, what- what was she- I want to know what she actually said. You know what I mean? I mean, we're getting a synopsis of what her actual op-ed was.
Narrator 1:01:31 I can find the op-ed. I was-
Joe Rogan 1:01:32 See if you can find it. It- it's just interesting because, like, what- what can get you kicked out of a country that is the most pro-f- free speech country on planet Earth? Like, what gets you kicked out? Is it really- is it all-
Narrator 1:01:43 Free speech.
Joe Rogan 1:01:44 Right. (laughs) But is it only that one?
Narrator 1:01:46 It's free speech that gets you fucking kicked out.
Joe Rogan 1:01:46 Is it only that one? Like, what if you had an opinion on Ukraine and Russia? Would that get you kicked out?
Narrator 1:01:52 I doubt it.
Joe Rogan 1:01:53 That's weird, right?
Narrator 1:01:54 It certainly is.
Joe Rogan 1:01:55 That's kind of weird. Did you ever notice?
Narrator 1:01:57 It's a little strange. (laughs)
1:01:58 Yeah. "Do you notice it?"
1:01:58 Hold on. Give me two more beers, okay?
Joe Rogan 1:02:00 (laughs)
Narrator 1:02:00 I'll let you know. I'll let you know if my algorithm's been feeding me.
Joe Rogan 1:02:03 (laughs)
Narrator 1:02:04 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 1:02:05 It's kind of crazy because y- you know, unless someone is outright calling for violence or revolution or to ignore the laws or ignore the rules, or if they're just having an opinion on s- a- a gigantic international conflict-
Narrator 1:02:23 Sure.
Joe Rogan 1:02:24 ... that seems crazy to want to kick them out of the country. Unless there's something more that I don't know.
Narrator 1:02:31 Yeah, maybe she must've said something you would think pretty crazy.
Joe Rogan 1:02:35 Right.
Narrator 1:02:35 But I bet you she didn't.
Joe Rogan 1:02:36 Yeah, she might not have.
Narrator 1:02:37 But we'll see.
1:02:38 Yeah, this is-
1:02:39 I think- I think it was a wild-ass statement.
1:02:42 Well, I'm not going to read all this.
1:02:43 Oh, this is so long.
1:02:44 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:02:45 Oh. "Try again, President Kumar. Renewing calls to- for Tufts to adopt March 4th TCU Senate resolutions." Hmm. "The university's response was wholly inadequate and dismissive of the Senate, the collective voice of the student body." Why- first of all, why would Tufts be, um, doing anything about what's happening in Gaza? And what could they really do? You know what I'm saying?
Narrator 1:03:14 Yeah, but if- yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:03:16 Like, what could they really do?
Narrator 1:03:19 I don't know. They might stop it.
1:03:21 There was, uh, investments in divesting from companies' direct-
Joe Rogan 1:03:25 Okay.
Narrator 1:03:25 ... or indirect ties to Israel is what they were talking about.
Joe Rogan 1:03:27 Right, but the problem is, aren't those companies... Israel is not a communist dictatorship. So those companies that you're not going to invest in, they're just citizens of Israel, like you're citizens of America. You know what I mean? It's like they- there's a lot of people that were protesting Netanyahu before October 7th.
Narrator 1:03:43 Mm-hmm.
Joe Rogan 1:03:43 It's like, not everybody agrees with everybody. It's not like Israel-
Narrator 1:03:46 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:03:46 ... is a monoculture that only has, like, one thing that they, they think. There's a lot of people over there that don't like their, their government. So, like, to ban their business and not use their b- like, what?
Narrator 1:04:00 Fuck if I know.
Joe Rogan 1:04:01 I don't know. What does that do? It puts pressure on them to vote differently, I guess? Yeah.
Narrator 1:04:07 M- yeah, where'd she- where was she from?
Joe Rogan 1:04:08 But that- but again, isn't that- that's just an opinion.
Narrator 1:04:13 I agree.
Joe Rogan 1:04:13 Like, that's an opinion.
Narrator 1:04:14 It didn't even- I don't think she even said anything that wild in there.
Joe Rogan 1:04:17 No.
Narrator 1:04:17 Is that what the fuck she got kicked out for?
1:04:18 Even her-
Joe Rogan 1:04:19 Th- there's probably a lot more to it, but just-
Narrator 1:04:21 Yeah, she's one of three or four authors of this paper, even.
Joe Rogan 1:04:23 E- that's one of those things where, like, you gotta be able to talk about shit like that. And if you can talk about shit like that if you're from Ohio and they're not gonna send you out of the country somewhere... (laughs)
Narrator 1:04:34 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 1:04:34 You know what I'm saying?
Narrator 1:04:36 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:04:36 Why can't you talk about it if you're from another country?
Narrator 1:04:38 (laughs) "This guy from Ohio at a bar."
1:04:39 I was talking about Ohio.
Joe Rogan 1:04:39 I feel like once you are in America legally, shouldn't we treat you like a fucking American? Other than, you know-
Narrator 1:04:48 Certainly.
Joe Rogan 1:04:48 ... yeah, other than you being able to vote yet. But once you're here legally-
Narrator 1:04:53 Nah, they can vote.
Joe Rogan 1:04:53 ... we've agreed. They can in a lot of places.
Narrator 1:04:55 They can vote. Turns out they can. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 1:04:56 (laughs)
Narrator 1:04:56 They're getting some votes in. (laughs) They're getting a fucking ton of votes.
1:04:58 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 1:04:58 Turns out it's not zero.
Narrator 1:05:00 Yeah. (laughs)
Joe Rogan 1:05:00 It's not zero. Anybody who says it's zero is a fucking liar.
Narrator 1:05:03 Yup.
Joe Rogan 1:05:04 Did you see that most, most recent thing, uh, about the Georgia elections?
Narrator 1:05:08 No.
Joe Rogan 1:05:09 Oh, it's kind of crazy. Um, the, uh-
Narrator 1:05:11 I told you, I checked out, dude.
Joe Rogan 1:05:12 Y-
Narrator 1:05:12 I'm watching fighter jet highlight videos on my phone. That's it.
Joe Rogan 1:05:14 You're better off that way.
Narrator 1:05:15 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:05:15 You're better off checking out.
Narrator 1:05:16 I'm waiting for the college football playoffs.
Joe Rogan 1:05:18 Yeah.
Narrator 1:05:18 Patiently. They've been nice.
Joe Rogan 1:05:20 Um, they found, uh, a ton of, um... Well, I don't want to put it... Let me pause for a second. I want to find this.
Narrator 1:05:28 I got the tweet.
Joe Rogan 1:05:29 You got it?
Narrator 1:05:30 Yeah, but it's, uh, I think it's, uh... I don't know. I don't, I don't think it... I don't know either. I'm not paying attention to this. I don't think they found votes, is what I'm-
Joe Rogan 1:05:37 It's, um... Well, they, they were saying that s- that 315,000 early votes lacked the poll workers' signatures.
Narrator 1:05:44 Well, you don't have to speed the allegation.
Joe Rogan 1:05:46 Right. So if that's true, they admit that 315,000 votes lacked poll workers' signatures and they were counted in 2020. I don't think that's legal. Let's put in the- put that into perplexity. Is that legal?
Narrator 1:06:03 Uh...
Joe Rogan 1:06:03 Like, if that's true, is that legal? And should those votes have counted? See, 'cause here's where it gets crazy. Trump, uh, lost to Biden in Georgia by...
Narrator 1:06:13 Like, was it-
Joe Rogan 1:06:13 I think it was 11,000 votes.
Narrator 1:06:15 Yeah. I read, though-
Joe Rogan 1:06:16 Dang.
Narrator 1:06:16 ... that they'd already done a hand count of these votes since, 'cause this has been disputed for the last five years, you know?
Joe Rogan 1:06:22 So what does that mean? They did a hand count of the votes. The thing is, it doesn't have the poll signature, right?
Narrator 1:06:27 I- I st- I'm just saying that's separate from the poll sign-... I don't even know what that means.
Joe Rogan 1:06:30 Right, but- but what the accusation, at least, is that 315,000 lacked... So put the tweet up again so we can read the accusation. It says, "315,000 early votes that lacked poll worker signatures." So, you have... Th- a poll worker's supposed to sign every one of them, right?
Narrator 1:06:54 That's the... I- I was trying to read into what this means. There's something, like, each day when they use the machine, they have to, like, zero out the machine to make sure, like, you know, it's starting at zero.
Joe Rogan 1:07:02 Mm-hmm.
Narrator 1:07:03 And then at the end of the day, you got to sign off on what it says.
Joe Rogan 1:07:06 Mm-hmm.
Narrator 1:07:06 So someone's counted them or something like that. And they don't have evidence...
1:07:10 ... because there wasn't anything being signed that these even started at zero. They could have had their sample tally still in there from their practice in the machines to make sure they counted right.
Joe Rogan 1:07:18 Mm-hmm.
Narrator 1:07:18 There's a lot of discrepancies on what that could have meant.
Joe Rogan 1:07:21 Mm-hmm.
Narrator 1:07:21 I think I, it's a chain of custody issue.
Joe Rogan 1:07:24 Mm-hmm.
Narrator 1:07:25 I don't know, again, what that means specifically-
Joe Rogan 1:07:28 Right.
Narrator 1:07:28 ... to this particular case.
Joe Rogan 1:07:29 So, it could mean many things. And one of the things that it could mean is that 315,000 early votes were bullshit.
Narrator 1:07:36 They also don't know what, who voted for who in those 315,000 votes.
Joe Rogan 1:07:39 Right.
Narrator 1:07:41 Eh, I'm gonna take a guess. (laughs)
1:07:42 I bet if we tallied those up... (laughs)
1:07:44 Okay.
Joe Rogan 1:07:44 (laughs)
Narrator 1:07:44 That's right. I think I was reading into these tweets, some people are like, "This is nonsense, because they've already gone back and counted them all." But it, I, they, people are fighting with those people in the-
Joe Rogan 1:07:53 The problem is when you asked Trump about it, like when I had him on the podcast, I'm like, "You think-"
Narrator 1:07:56 I listened.
Joe Rogan 1:07:57 "You think they stole the 2020 election?"
Narrator 1:07:58 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:07:58 I'm like, "Tell me what, what's the evidence?"
Narrator 1:08:01 He didn't.
Joe Rogan 1:08:02 Well, he, he might not have remembered. He might have just said, "Tell me what they did," and like had-
Narrator 1:08:08 (laughs)
Joe Rogan 1:08:08 ... somebody work on it, and then they told him, and then he starts talking about it, but he didn't really go in depth about it. I don't know, but he didn't have a satisfactory answer.
Narrator 1:08:17 No, he didn't. I was hoping he did.
Joe Rogan 1:08:18 I was hoping he did, too. Like, I would assume-
Narrator 1:08:21 Because I was hoping, I was hoping that he would have said they stole it through like propaganda and shit. Or like what-
Joe Rogan 1:08:27 Right.
Narrator 1:08:27 ... they, what happened in those years.
Joe Rogan 1:08:29 Well, there's certainly-
Narrator 1:08:30 And instead it was just down to like he thought-
Joe Rogan 1:08:32 ... propaganda meddling.
Narrator 1:08:33 ... like voter fraud and like-
Joe Rogan 1:08:34 Yeah.
Narrator 1:08:35 Which I'm sure there was some, but it was like, you could have had an argument with what happened in 2020 and leading up to it.
Joe Rogan 1:08:42 Yeah, you could definitely have a thing where you see with the FBI and the Twitter files and all that shit-
Narrator 1:08:48 Yeah.
Joe Rogan 1:08:48 ... with the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Narrator 1:08:49 Yeah, but not, he didn't even bring that up.
Joe Rogan 1:08:51 Yeah, I should have brought that up. Um, Georgia officials and complaints agree that failing to obtain required poll worker signatures on the tabulator tapes for roughly 315,000 early boat, ballots in Fulton County was a violation of Georgia election procedure law, i.e., it was not done in compliance with the statute. That does not automatically mean individual voters did anything wrong or that their ballots are criminally illegal, but it does mean the county certification process for those votes did not follow state legal requirements. So, those are not supposed to have been counted? Is that what they're saying? Because it didn't follow the requirements?
Narrator 1:09:34 Uh, that's...
Joe Rogan 1:09:35 That's what they're saying. Um, so it says, scroll back up again so I can hear it. So it says, "Poll workers must also print
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