Joe Rogan Experience #2434 - Kurt Metzger

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Joe Rogan 0:12 Feel good.

Kurt Metzger 0:13 I was trying to get a John Lilly picture. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:15 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 0:15 It's John Lilly Awareness Day.

Joe Rogan 0:18 D- is the Carhartt, uh-

Kurt Metzger 0:20 No.

Joe Rogan 0:20 ... specific time period appropriate? No?

Kurt Metzger 0:22 (clicks tongue) It's, uh, it's supposed to be, like, a boiler suit.

Joe Rogan 0:25 Ah.

Kurt Metzger 0:26 But, uh, my... it didn't arrive.

Joe Rogan 0:27 What is a boiler suit?

Kurt Metzger 0:29 Like a coverall.

Joe Rogan 0:30 Oh, like something would wear in the boiler room?

Kurt Metzger 0:33 Yeah. But there's-

Joe Rogan 0:33 Is that, uh-

Kurt Metzger 0:34 The best kind to get, I would have done a mashup. Now, see, here he's got kind of a pleather jumpsuit.

Joe Rogan 0:39 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 0:39 He's got a lot of great looks.

Speaker 0:41 That guy was out there.

Kurt Metzger 0:42 Now the two diamond studs... Oh, let me take off my John C Lilly glasses. (laughs)

Speaker 0:49 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 0:49 Oh, yeah. He invented, uh, the isolation, uh, goon tank, right?

Joe Rogan 0:54 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Kurt Metzger 0:54 You go in there and goon, it's like you're in space-

Joe Rogan 0:56 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 0:56 ... dude.

Joe Rogan 0:56 My friend actually went in his tank and did ketamine with him before he went in his tank.

Kurt Metzger 1:01 Who? Who?

Joe Rogan 1:02 Todd McCormick.

Kurt Metzger 1:04 Ew. What happened?

Joe Rogan 1:05 He, d- he... John Lilly shot him up with an intramuscular shot of ketamine before he went into the tank. (laughs) He's like, "This is what I do. You wanna do it?" He's like, "Okay, sure."

Kurt Metzger 1:16 John le- John Lilly's like, "Hey, do you want to watch my parents fucking to conceive me? I like to do that in this tank." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:21 (laughs) Let's go back in time.

Kurt Metzger 1:23 I like to go into the fucking, what do they call that Buddhist thing, where you go and watch your parents fuck?

Joe Rogan 1:27 Is that a real thing?

Kurt Metzger 1:29 Yeah. You know, the, in the s-... I forget the afterlife, their whole, uh, mapping the afterlife thing that-

Joe Rogan 1:34 But can they do it-

Kurt Metzger 1:35 They can in... Uh-

Joe Rogan 1:35 ... like, with meditation or something? Is that what you're saying?

Kurt Metzger 1:38 Yeah. But they say-

Joe Rogan 1:39 If you could choose to do that-

Kurt Metzger 1:40 What?

Joe Rogan 1:40 ... if you could go back in time and watch something, but only one thing, and that thing is your parents fucking, you could be back in 1976 or whenever it was you were born.

Kurt Metzger 1:49 I don't know. What... So, what do I get out of that, though?

Joe Rogan 1:51 Nothing.

Kurt Metzger 1:52 Just on research?

Joe Rogan 1:53 I- if it's like-

Kurt Metzger 1:53 Valuable research.

Joe Rogan 1:55 You only get one trip back in time. Everybody gets a trip back in time to see what it was like.

Kurt Metzger 1:59 Like, that's it?

Joe Rogan 1:59 But that's the only thing you get to see. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 2:01 It sounds like Tibetan Buddhism-

Joe Rogan 2:02 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 2:02 ... what you're describing, to me. Pretty sure that's what, uh... What do they call it when you go... the, the place you go to watch your parents fuck? (laughs) Jamie, aren't you a Buddhist?

Speaker 2:11 I'm trying to look-

Kurt Metzger 2:11 The Bodak? It's not called that.

Joe Rogan 2:14 Um-

Kurt Metzger 2:15 How do you like that Nicki Minaj, huh? Really a g-... Uh-

Joe Rogan 2:17 What about her?

Kurt Metzger 2:18 Did you watch... You, you... We've been covering, uh, TP USA all week.

Joe Rogan 2:21 Okay. You're deep in the woods. I'm not. I stay out of that. If- it seems like-

Kurt Metzger 2:26 Why? It's such g-... It's so great.

Joe Rogan 2:27 'Cause it seems like the, the, the, the right wing of this country is in some sort of a weird gang war.

Kurt Metzger 2:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:36 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 2:36 There never was a fucking united right wing.

Joe Rogan 2:38 No.

Kurt Metzger 2:38 It was a bunch of people who needed some shit done that didn't get done, and now they're upset about it. And so, the thought... So, the... 'Cause here's the thing, the important part-

Joe Rogan 2:45 Well, it's a bunch of people scrambling to be in control of the narrative too, right?

Kurt Metzger 2:49 The polymarket dudes have some network. They, there's also, like, the show I sold, called The Cutout. They do these cutout things where it's like pl-... Y- you pay a, uh, company to put up... Remember when, when, uh, Elon showed what countries all the, the tweets are coming from?

Joe Rogan 3:04 (clicks tongue) Right.

Kurt Metzger 3:04 Okay. Why the fuck are Indians and Sri Lankans tweeting about Israel-Palestine shit, right?

Joe Rogan 3:10 Right.

Kurt Metzger 3:10 Well, it's because there's these bounties they put up, and you can get invited to, like, a circle. Remember when you would show me those things people would get of like, "Hey, say this shit, and we'll give you this money"?

Joe Rogan 3:18 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 3:19 Well, now there's a bounty system.

Joe Rogan 3:21 Mm.

Kurt Metzger 3:21 It's on Jimmy's channel. It's fucking amazing. So, all these... So, a bunch of people that I, I would watch them just, like, flip and say a thing like it's their job to say it.

Joe Rogan 3:29 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 3:29 It was their job, but they're trying to hit a certain amount of engagement, and then you get, like, 50 grand. Uh, I, I can't remember the name of the guy that, that pointed out, but it's r- really good fucking work.

Joe Rogan 3:39 Wow.

Kurt Metzger 3:40 Oh, shit. I should have looked it up.

Joe Rogan 3:41 So, it's not just bots. It's-

Kurt Metzger 3:43 The bardo!

Joe Rogan 3:45 Bardo of Becoming, a Tibetan teaching. After death, consciousness passes through several bardos, culminating in the Bardo of Becoming, where karmic visions of one's next life arise. During this phase, there are increasingly frequent flashes of the environment, parents, and circumstances in which one will be conceived, and one is drawn towards these as a kind of refuge or new home.

Kurt Metzger 4:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:07 That's interesting, but not as interesting as the influencers.

Speaker 4:10 Thank you, Perplexity.

Kurt Metzger 4:11 Oh, yeah. No, it's all-

Joe Rogan 4:12 Thank you.

Kurt Metzger 4:12 (laughs)

Speaker 4:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:12 Thank you to our sponsor, Perplexity.

Kurt Metzger 4:14 I... You can always tell w- who's getting paid to say anything because they'll use specific phrases.

Joe Rogan 4:18 Like, I just got paid to say that?

Speaker 4:19 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 4:19 Um, well, it sounds like a fair...

Joe Rogan 4:22 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 4:22 I thought it was very interesting and informative. And, uh-

Joe Rogan 4:24 (sighs) But you-

Kurt Metzger 4:24 ... I'd like to learn if you have a brochure.

Joe Rogan 4:26 How many people are doing that? This, this is the thing. W-... The, the, the conversation's always been like, other countries are doing it.

Kurt Metzger 4:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:33 You know? And then they have bots-

Kurt Metzger 4:34 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 4:34 ... and fake accounts, which is definitely true as well. But it seems like, also, they're paying people to say things.

Kurt Metzger 4:41 Yeah. Well-

Joe Rogan 4:41 There's a lot of people that seem like they're doing it like it's a job, right?

Kurt Metzger 4:44 Me, me a- assuming someone either is, uh, blackmailed or MKUltraed is me being kind of positive, because really, a lot of these people are just sacks of shit that are going for a bounty. So-

Joe Rogan 4:54 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 4:54 ... if you were MKUltraed, that's, like, kind of cooler than that, I think.

Joe Rogan 4:57 And you think some of them can just sort of justify that bounty, they... you know, whatever country's paying it? You know, "Hey," you know, "they have their own rights," and-

Kurt Metzger 5:04 Specific. It's specific, like, billionaires and shit pay it.

Joe Rogan 5:07 Right. And it works both ways, I'm sure. I'm sure a lot of the-

Kurt Metzger 5:10 Both ways with what?

Joe Rogan 5:10 ... anti-Israel stuff, people being paid a bounty. Don't you think?

Kurt Metzger 5:14 Um-

Joe Rogan 5:14 Don't you think, like-

Kurt Metzger 5:15 Okay.

Joe Rogan 5:15 ... there's, there's certain people involved in that as well that are probably being paid?

Kurt Metzger 5:18 I... Yeah. That-

Joe Rogan 5:18 It's from all around, right?

Kurt Metzger 5:19 The, the... That crime that got done in Gaza... And they're done now, so everybody could relax.

Joe Rogan 5:22 Is it done?

Kurt Metzger 5:22 They got, they got it done. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's done. So (laughs) watch Homie Finkelstein. He'll explain it to you. But, uh, so that crime that's done now, the reason that... the frantic buying up of the media by Larry the, the... Shadow President Larry Ellison, is because they lost the next generation of trauma-controlled fucking mind slaves. Because on TikTok, these psychopaths bragged about crimes they did to people. And all the young zoomies are on there, including... In America, we were force-fed woke bullshit by the oligarchs, who are now suddenly horrified, 'cause they didn't think it would blow back, that their kids would absorb that crap. Guess who has not had woke programming for the last 12 years? Israel.... so you can tell who's involved with the propaganda now, 'cause they have no concept of the sensitivities of these gender blobs that were made in this country.

Joe Rogan 6:08 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 6:08 So now they lost the next generation, so now they're frantically buying TikTok. They're putting Barry Weiss in charge of fucking... (laughs) That's gonna work out great. I'll bet you he's already out, based on the Town Hall alone that we covered.

Joe Rogan 6:19 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 6:19 One of the worst things I've ever seen.

Joe Rogan 6:21 I didn't see it.

Kurt Metzger 6:22 Well, you're lucky. But, uh, we cover it all. It-

Joe Rogan 6:24 I, I try... I'm trying to stay out of most of this stuff, 'cause every time I talk to you, I get dragged in and I get paranoid-

Kurt Metzger 6:30 To what?

Joe Rogan 6:30 ... and anxiety.

Kurt Metzger 6:30 Oh, yeah. No, you could be killed. I mean-

Joe Rogan 6:32 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 6:32 ... it's like what happened to, uh, Charlie Kirk. Uh, no, you easily could be killed in a, you know... Uh, yeah, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 6:38 Does Jimmy worry about that?

Kurt Metzger 6:39 Jimmy got his phone hacked with Pegasus that time.

Joe Rogan 6:42 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 6:43 He got, uh-

Joe Rogan 6:44 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 6:44 ... I mean, the Bohemian Grove thing is hilarious.

Joe Rogan 6:45 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 6:46 'Cause he... It's so funny 'cause he... You could tell he's one of 12 kids 'cause he feels left out of shit still, in a way, with things. And I, I... It's like, "Why didn't I get that thing?" I'm like, "Well, you got an opportunity, and then you brought that Nixon joke about Bohemian Grove."

Joe Rogan 6:58 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 6:59 You know the Nixon quote?

Joe Rogan 7:00 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 7:00 He goes, "You heard, you heard that quote, right?"

Joe Rogan 7:02 Uh-huh.

Kurt Metzger 7:02 And they go, "No." They had not heard it.

Joe Rogan 7:04 They had not... Come on.

Kurt Metzger 7:05 And he said it, and then they didn't laugh.

Joe Rogan 7:08 (laughs) .

Kurt Metzger 7:09 They didn't... Nobody laughed.

Joe Rogan 7:11 Let's play the recording of Nixon saying it, 'cause it's even funnier. Hey, we're back.

Kurt Metzger 7:15 Hey.

Joe Rogan 7:15 We've got an issue.

Speaker 7:16 We have not.

Kurt Metzger 7:16 What happened?

Joe Rogan 7:17 Two, two podcasts in a row, the podcast-

Speaker 7:20 The audio just cuts out some, for some reason.

Joe Rogan 7:21 Yeah, we got a, we got a software glitch.

Speaker 7:23 This software just keeps dying.

Joe Rogan 7:23 Um, what were we just talking about?

Speaker 7:25 It's an audio, but it's-

Joe Rogan 7:26 Oh, the Nixon audio.

Kurt Metzger 7:26 Oh, yeah, the sweet audio.

Joe Rogan 7:28 But in his own voice, "The faggiest thing-"

Kurt Metzger 7:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:30 ... "I've ever seen."

Kurt Metzger 7:31 "From time to time I've been there."

Joe Rogan 7:33 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 7:33 "The San Francisco crowd..."

Joe Rogan 7:35 So I think there's always been places where dudes go to get their freak on. The lost Nixon tapes. Here it is. "During a discussion with Haldeman and Kissinger about..." Oh, whoops. Uh, "About youth conference, uh, annual youth conference, the subject turned to homosexuality and society." (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 7:53 As it always does. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:55 Give me... Just give me some of this.

Speaker 7:57 I wanna make sure it's the right one, though. I don't know if it is.

Kurt Metzger 7:59 I mean, every quote-

Joe Rogan 7:59 Oh, this is gays are born that way.

Speaker 8:01 Oh, yeah, this is at Bohemian Grove, yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:03 Oh, well, Nixon was progressive. Gays are born that way.

Kurt Metzger 8:05 He was a real Lady Goo Ga.

Joe Rogan 8:07 You know the whole Nixon getting booted from the White House story, right?

Kurt Metzger 8:11 Yeah, the Watergate story, how he set him up?

Joe Rogan 8:13 You know about fake ass Bob Woodward? Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 8:14 Oh my God, how crazy is that?

Joe Rogan 8:16 Wow, your nav- naval intel and your first big break is that Watergate-

Kurt Metzger 8:20 How crazy is that story?

Joe Rogan 8:22 Well, uh-

Kurt Metzger 8:22 It's a complete story. It's a template for all of the media for how long, dude?

Joe Rogan 8:25 Here it is.

Kurt Metzger 8:26 It's, yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:26 President Richard...

Speaker 8:28 ... as president, I, I think, um, I'm technically not the issue person. The others have come to their own, but it is the most faggy goddamn thing you will ev- ever imagine.

Kurt Metzger 8:36 Boy.

Speaker 8:36 That same Cecil road that goes in there. It's just terrible.

Kurt Metzger 8:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:41 (laughs)

Speaker 8:42 Bohemian Grove that I had an opportunity to visit some time in the 90s.

Joe Rogan 8:43 From time to time. This is the v-... This is that quote, "It's the most faggy goddamn thing-"

Kurt Metzger 8:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:50 ... "you could ever imagine."

Kurt Metzger 8:51 You know what's funny, uh, Sir Cecil Rhodes-

Joe Rogan 8:53 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 8:53 ... he kept saying he wanted to make bundles of men. You know, like a bundle of sticks?

Joe Rogan 8:57 Uh-huh.

Kurt Metzger 8:58 Of men in his round tables.

Joe Rogan 9:00 That's hot.

Kurt Metzger 9:00 You know, a bundle of sticks is, of course, a faggot.

Joe Rogan 9:03 Right, right, right, right.

Kurt Metzger 9:03 That's not the slur. But the goal of Cecil Rhodes was to create secret faggots around the world. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:10 Secret ones?

Kurt Metzger 9:11 Yeah, bundles of men. Fraternal organizations.

Joe Rogan 9:14 Mm.

Kurt Metzger 9:14 The names don't matter if you're a dumb group. Whatever. Everybody's in a stupid fucking-

Joe Rogan 9:18 Right.

Kurt Metzger 9:18 ... the Knights of the Order of some gay shit, right?

Joe Rogan 9:20 Skull and Bones.

Kurt Metzger 9:21 Yeah, and, and look, when he's saying, uh, the F slur like that, I don't think he just means a little bit of, uh, man-on-man action. I think he's talking about the ceremonies and the dress up.

Joe Rogan 9:33 Yeah. Oh, yeah, the dress up, the whole Renaissance fair thing.

Kurt Metzger 9:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:36 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 9:36 Like, uh, uh, the owl thing. Like, never mind anything you heard they did, okay? That's just nonsense talk. But just the things you know they did.

Joe Rogan 9:43 The video that Alex Jones got-

Kurt Metzger 9:44 Why are they doing that?

Joe Rogan 9:45 ... the video that Alex Jones got is... And he did it, by the way, back with Jon Ronson, back when Alex Jones was radioactive.

Kurt Metzger 9:51 Yeah, I know Jon Ronson. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:52 Yeah. So Alex Jones and Jon Ronson sneak into Bohemian Grove. Alex Jones filmed them. Everybody was like, "He's crazy. He's a kook." He's filming them doing this fucking wacky ceremony in front of Molech the Owl God.

Kurt Metzger 10:03 No, well, it's not Molech.

Joe Rogan 10:05 It isn't?

Kurt Metzger 10:05 No. Uh, uh-

Joe Rogan 10:06 What is the owl?

Kurt Metzger 10:07 Um, it's, it's... I mean, um, first of all, from what I understand, Mo- Molech is a type of sacrifice usually to Baal, which is a, like a rich man, you know?

Joe Rogan 10:17 Well, I thought that owl, the big owl that-

Kurt Metzger 10:19 It was not Molech owl.

Joe Rogan 10:20 Oh.

Kurt Metzger 10:20 Molech was whenever-

Joe Rogan 10:20 W- Which one's owl? Molech? Was Molech not an owl?

Kurt Metzger 10:22 I've heard the owl's called Ker, like the creation of Ker. There's an... But it's supposed to be the Artemis owl, from what I understand.

Joe Rogan 10:28 Oh, okay.

Kurt Metzger 10:29 Or Athena. Athena, Artemis, the same thing.

Joe Rogan 10:31 "Doesn't have a specific names, but it's a symbol of Minerva, the Roman goddess of wisdom, representing the club's values." That's what they say it is.

Kurt Metzger 10:38 Yeah, the club's values are-

Joe Rogan 10:39 Shut up with that. Can I see-

Kurt Metzger 10:40 So, whenever they say wisdom, that means, uh, magic shit. That's what that means.

Joe Rogan 10:42 Can I see an image of what that, um, that statue, large owl statue looks like?

Kurt Metzger 10:47 Oh, they make a big deal about misidentifying-

Joe Rogan 10:50 Look at that fucking...

Kurt Metzger 10:50 ... it is Molech.

Joe Rogan 10:50 Come on, man. That is weird as fuck. Okay, so what, uh, what does Molech look like? Just pull that up.

Kurt Metzger 10:57 Uh-

Joe Rogan 10:57 Let's find out what Molech looks like.

Kurt Metzger 10:59 I think, uh, I, I think now they no longer think Molech was an actual god and they think it was a type of sacrifice.

Joe Rogan 11:05 An ancient Christian... Oh, Mo- so Molech was like a bull.

Kurt Metzger 11:08 That's Baal. I mean, the... Well, there's a bunch-

Joe Rogan 11:10 That's Baal?

Kurt Metzger 11:10 Well, there's a bunch of Baals. There's Baal Hadad, the Baal Hammon.

Joe Rogan 11:14 Okay, but which is... Is Molech and Baal connected?

Kurt Metzger 11:17 Um, uh...

Joe Rogan 11:19 'Cause there were all these Molech pictures-

Kurt Metzger 11:20 So the baby...

Joe Rogan 11:21 ... that show him like a bull.

Kurt Metzger 11:21 Okay, so the sacrifice itself, from my, what I understand, and you... Probably somebody on that could correct it, but at this point they kind of think... Uh, 'cause it only says MLK in the original writing, so it's-

Joe Rogan 11:30 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 11:31 ... a type of sacrifice to the bull god.

Joe Rogan 11:33 Got it.

Kurt Metzger 11:33 You understand?

Joe Rogan 11:34 Right.

Kurt Metzger 11:34 It's a Molech sacrifice. So you get material gain for your firstborn. Like, that's a Molech.

Joe Rogan 11:39 Oh, God, look at this one. The fucking-

Kurt Metzger 11:41 I thi- I think that's what it is now.

Joe Rogan 11:42 Look at this one, the, the statue of men that's stuffed with men.

Kurt Metzger 11:45 What's the big deal? We do that-

Joe Rogan 11:47 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 11:47 ... tech people do that.

Joe Rogan 11:49 Normal.

Kurt Metzger 11:49 Burning Man, we commemorate it.

Joe Rogan 11:50 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 11:51 Yo, can't rich old fruits have a Burning Man of their own?

Joe Rogan 11:54 They already do. It's called Burning Man.

Kurt Metzger 11:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:56 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 11:57 It's, it's called just blowing people up.

Joe Rogan 11:59 ... uh, Canaanite deity associated with i- in Biblical sources with the practice of child sacrifice. It, it derives from combining the continents of the Hebrew Melek, king, and the vowels boshet, shame. The later often being used in the Old Testament as a variant name-

Kurt Metzger 12:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:14 ... for the popular god, Baal. So, maybe they're calling it... Was he calling it Molech? Because that's how, uh, Alex Jones was referring it to, to it. Was it because it was a child sacrifice?

Kurt Metzger 12:25 Um, maybe. And also keep in mind, just because they... It's an L, whatever. People that do goofy pagan shit, th- you gotta think of it like Diddy changing his name every time he does a crime.

Joe Rogan 12:35 Right. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 12:36 That's how these gods work. So it'll be like, no, his name's not that, it's this other thing. And you're like, wait, that... They're both-

Joe Rogan 12:41 Okay.

Kurt Metzger 12:41 And, and so you can mix and match them. It's called alchemy. You could, you could grind them in their constituents and mix and match them all kinds of great ways.

Joe Rogan 12:48 That being said, they're doing something weird. They're wearing robes, they're chanting, and they're, they're carrying a bundle of sticks that's supposed to like represent a body or something like that.

Kurt Metzger 12:57 And then they're gonna talk-

Joe Rogan 12:57 And they're burning an effigy. The whole thing is fucking bizarre. I- if somebody invited me to that, and then that's what we went and did, I would never hang out with them again.

Kurt Metzger 13:06 Well-

Joe Rogan 13:06 I'd be like, "What the fuck is wrong with you people?"

Kurt Metzger 13:07 What if you have to make a decision to be a fucking mass murderer on the order of any mass murder they told you is bad, and so you need to cremate your care?

Joe Rogan 13:14 Or you want to sell natural gas and get that pipeline opened up.

Kurt Metzger 13:17 Yeah, and I want to burn my dull care about the bad things I'm doing away, because I can't not do it. I'll be killed, so.

Joe Rogan 13:22 Also, you want to be compromised, because that's how you do business.

Kurt Metzger 13:27 Uh, that's how I do business. That's how I, I met my dolphin wife.

Joe Rogan 13:30 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 13:30 Shoshana Rothfin.

Joe Rogan 13:33 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 13:33 (laughs) I know she looks young, but she's of age.

Joe Rogan 13:39 My favorite part about the Lily story is the experiments that the lady was doing with the dolphins when she was living in the house with them, and she had to jerk them off, otherwise they wouldn't pay attention. And people found out about it, and they shut the science down. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 13:49 It made them more comp- It made the dolphin more comp- Peter, he had a name show. It's Peter the Dolphin.

Joe Rogan 13:54 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 13:54 And, uh, he took his own life after-

Joe Rogan 13:57 He took his own life?

Kurt Metzger 13:58 Peter the Dolphin killed himself, yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:59 How did he do that?

Kurt Metzger 14:02 I had... It's really dumb and obvious, but I didn't guess what it was.

Joe Rogan 14:05 Did he just inhale all the water?

Kurt Metzger 14:06 Yeah, he just drowned himself. I, I thought he like jumped out of the water into like a big fan or something.

Joe Rogan 14:12 Hmm, right.

Kurt Metzger 14:12 I couldn't figure out how they do it, but yeah, he just drowned.

Joe Rogan 14:14 Tied C4 to himself and just flipped over into the crowd. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 14:18 Bruce is telling me about all the f- how they would train dolphin jihadis to like blow up... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:23 Oh, yeah. Oh, we had dolphin jihadis.

Kurt Metzger 14:24 We trained dolphin jihadis.

Joe Rogan 14:25 Yeah. We had dolphin kamikazes. We took dolphins... Like, "We love you. Hey, I'm gonna just give you a little collar. Go find the Russians."

Kurt Metzger 14:34 Well, let me tell you something. Let me tell you, if you want to do more like... 'Cause I, I texted you some real dolphin info.

Joe Rogan 14:40 You did?

Kurt Metzger 14:41 I have, and I have permission to, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:41 Well, the thing is, when you text me, you text me so much, I can't read it all. It's not possible.

Kurt Metzger 14:46 Well, that's good, because this is going to be-

Joe Rogan 14:48 There's creases.

Kurt Metzger 14:48 ... a real treat for you to hear.

Joe Rogan 14:49 I like how you're still going with the old school, uh, white background on your texts.

Kurt Metzger 14:53 Um, why? Do you think I should change it?

Joe Rogan 14:55 Nope. Nope.

Kurt Metzger 14:56 All right.

Joe Rogan 14:57 You be you. Boo.

Kurt Metzger 14:58 Is it a bad background? (laughs) Okay, so, you know, they always say dolphins are a little amorous is the term they use in dolphin handling.

Joe Rogan 15:07 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 15:08 I'm allowed to talk about this as long as I change the name of the person and the dolphin. I was told. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:13 Oh, you told me... Oh, you did send me that. That's right.

Kurt Metzger 15:15 Yeah. Okay, 'cause I was like, you know, they always say dolphins are... I always feel like-

Joe Rogan 15:19 Yeah, don't, don't say your friend's name, but tell the story, 'cause it's crazy.

Kurt Metzger 15:21 Yeah, like, uh, I always feel like they're smearing dolphins, like how we did to a great man, Saddam Hussein. Remember we smeared that guy, and he was the best president of Iraq they've ever had?

Joe Rogan 15:29 Well, what about Gaddafi?

Kurt Metzger 15:31 I don't even want to bring that one up, 'cause that's really depressing.

Joe Rogan 15:33 That's a crazy one.

Kurt Metzger 15:34 The most prosperous country in all of Africa.

Joe Rogan 15:36 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 15:37 Screwed up three other countries, went, uh, unreal.

Joe Rogan 15:39 Just... Yeah. There's a great cri- uh, clip of Russell Crowe explaining all the things Gaddafi did on this podcast, explaining how we're-

Kurt Metzger 15:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:47 ... we're supposed to think Gaddafi's the bad guy, but he's-

Kurt Metzger 15:49 He's right. He's exactly right.

Joe Rogan 15:50 ... he's the dictator.

Kurt Metzger 15:51 Russell Crowe was dead on with that.

Joe Rogan 15:52 Oh, yeah. 100%.

Kurt Metzger 15:53 So I'm like, maybe dolphins are just another Gaddafi. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:56 Gaddafi gave everyone free education. Everyone, when they reached a certain age, got a home.

Kurt Metzger 16:02 But you know-

Joe Rogan 16:03 If you had a specific skill, they would send you to another university and pay for it, wherever they had to send you.

Kurt Metzger 16:09 Authoritarian.

Joe Rogan 16:10 Well, that too. But so are we.

Kurt Metzger 16:13 Yeah, no shit.

Joe Rogan 16:13 Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. It's, it's all pretend.

Kurt Metzger 16:15 Well, I hate to bring it up, but ISIS is in charge of Syria now, even while morons will tell you that ISIS is attacking Christians in Nigeria.

Joe Rogan 16:22 Listen-

Kurt Metzger 16:23 Is everybody retarded?

Joe Rogan 16:24 ... you're, you're always a glass half empty.

Kurt Metzger 16:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:26 At least Netanyahu got a pardon.

Kurt Metzger 16:28 Did he? From who? Trump?

Joe Rogan 16:30 Trump.

Kurt Metzger 16:31 How could Trump pardon Netanyahu for... How does that work?

Joe Rogan 16:35 I don't know. You asked me.

Kurt Metzger 16:38 You... Okay.

Joe Rogan 16:39 Someone should cue the America fuck yeah music right now. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 16:43 Oh, we're bombing Venezuela too, by the way. It's, uh-

Joe Rogan 16:46 Just, hey, hey, dude.

Kurt Metzger 16:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:48 No disinformation. Drone bombing. We're not even there.

Kurt Metzger 16:50 Oh, no, we got ground... We reported yesterday, we got ground people going in.

Joe Rogan 16:53 Oh, really? Netanyahu says Trump's gonna be the first-

Kurt Metzger 16:55 You know, I'm saying, with this fucking guy-

Joe Rogan 16:55 ... non-Israeli to receive Israel prize. Oh, Trump got a prize. Nice.

Kurt Metzger 17:00 The first...

Joe Rogan 17:00 The first non-Israeli. Uh, announces Trump will be the first non-Israeli to receive Israel prize for tremendous contributions.

Kurt Metzger 17:08 Yeah, well, they, hey, they should give him a fucking prize.

Joe Rogan 17:10 Listen, you gotta make deals. You, you want to make omelets, you gotta crack a few eggs.

Kurt Metzger 17:15 Uh, there's no omelet coming.

Joe Rogan 17:16 I'd like the prize. Nobody gets it but Israelis. I want to be the first.

Kurt Metzger 17:21 There's no omelet ever coming whenever someone says that.

Joe Rogan 17:24 Um, what did he pardon Netanyahu for? I didn't know that Netanyahu was in trouble over here.

Kurt Metzger 17:30 I... He was about to be overthrown before October 7th happened, and they tragically-

Joe Rogan 17:33 But that's over there. Let that go. But right here. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 17:35 But what are we pardoning him for here then?

Joe Rogan 17:37 (laughs) That's what I'm saying.

Kurt Metzger 17:39 Oh, that's right.

Joe Rogan 17:39 That's what I'm saying.

Kurt Metzger 17:40 I wonder if there's anything in it blacked out in the Epstein thing.

Joe Rogan 17:43 Didn't... Was it-

Kurt Metzger 17:44 Well, that's a real insult, huh?

Speaker 17:45 It says, this says, now the pardon has been, uh... They're disputing it.

Kurt Metzger 17:52 Oh. They're arguing already?

Speaker 17:53 Israel's president denies telling Trump a Netanyahu pardon is, quote, "on its way."

Kurt Metzger 17:58 But he's not an American citizen, is he?

Joe Rogan 18:00 Wait a minute. Hold on a second. Say that again. Say that statement again.

Speaker 18:02 That's the headline on this.

Joe Rogan 18:03 Israel's president denies telling Trump a Netanyahu pardon is on its way. So, what does that mean? So, Netanyahu denies saying that to Trump, is what it sounds like. Doesn't it sound like that?

Speaker 18:14 Isaac Herzog.

Joe Rogan 18:15 Oh, Isaac Herzog.Well, wait a minute. Oh, the prime minister, so they have a prime minister and a president. Okay. I'm so ignorant. Uh, swiftly denied President Trump's claim on Monday that he had told the US president he would pardon Prime Minister Netanyahu, Ne- Be- Benjamin Netanyahu. He's into- What is that saying? "I think he will," Trump said when asked if Netanyahu would get a pardon. How do you not... He's a wartime prime minister who's a hero. How do you not give a pardon?

Kurt Metzger 18:43 Oh, wow, he's gonna pull his ass out of the fryer too.

Joe Rogan 18:46 I think what he's saying is that he would get a pardon from the president of Israel. That's what I think he's saying.

Speaker 18:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:54 Okay. So this is why it's confusing to people.

Kurt Metzger 18:56 Yeah, well, half of Israel hates that motherfucker, by the way, okay, and, uh, he was about to be overthrown.

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20:27 Well, there were certainly large protests in the street the day before October 7th happened.

Kurt Metzger 20:33 Right.

Joe Rogan 20:33 Is it, is it true that there was a stand-down on October 7th?

Kurt Metzger 20:36 The idea of people we're talking about the day aft- we... It's on Jimmy's show. Go on his channel, he'll show you what it is.

Joe Rogan 20:40 Well, I'm asking you so the people that don't know what the fuck we're talking about-

Kurt Metzger 20:44 They won't believe me. They'll say, "John Lilly's a liar."

Joe Rogan 20:46 So why don't you say it?

Kurt Metzger 20:47 They'll say John Lilly's a dolphin fucking liar. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:49 No, no, no, they wouldn't say that. They wouldn't say that.

Kurt Metzger 20:53 Um-

Joe Rogan 20:53 What are you looking up?

Kurt Metzger 20:54 Um... Oh, 'cause I... We got into this 'cause I was gonna tell you the truth about dolphins.

Joe Rogan 20:58 Okay.

Kurt Metzger 20:59 A dolphin like... A Netanyahu like fish, mammal.

Joe Rogan 21:02 Oh, the dolphin experience.

Kurt Metzger 21:04 'Cause this is gonna- this is, like-

Joe Rogan 21:06 Yeah, go ahead.

Kurt Metzger 21:07 This is more important things than a measly genocide in the... Okay. Okay, so I asked if they were smearing dolphins, right?

Joe Rogan 21:14 Right.

Kurt Metzger 21:14 So she said, "What they say about dolphin rape, it's true." All caps. "They are very sexual animals and even masturbate. Young males can get very horny and it's like they go into a trance. For some reason, they like knees. So I was doing a program with a very nice family and I saw Flippy," name changed, "uh, drop to the lady's knees and start buzzing on them." That's echolocation. So they groom your knees with their echolocation abilities.

Joe Rogan 21:41 Whoa.

Kurt Metzger 21:42 "So I'm like, 'Fucking great.'" That's all caps. "So I followed protocol and put myself in between the dolphin and the guests and asked them to get out of the water." So (laughs) so you understand there's a protocol in place for when Flippy starts echolocating your knees? Okay.

Joe Rogan 21:56 Oh my God.

Kurt Metzger 21:58 "Flippy then starts circling me fast with his dick out, hooking my leg and dragging me into deep water. As he's doing it, it literally looks like the scene in Jaws where the shark's hitting the girl and she's, like, whipping around, uh, and she's jerking around and you can't see what's happening under the water. Ob- Obviously I'm fucking terrified and I'm trying to play it off to the guests like everything is fine, so I'm laughing and saying, 'You know how dogs get a lo- a little rough when they play?'" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:26 That's what she's saying to the guests?

Kurt Metzger 22:28 She's whipping like Jaws, like, whoa, it's like a dog.

Joe Rogan 22:32 Oh my God.

Kurt Metzger 22:32 Okay, that's protocol, by the way, so I guess good work. Um, "Then my shoes come off and so I'm floating and the guests try to get back in the water to get my shoes for me and I yell, 'No!'" (laughs) LMAO.

Joe Rogan 22:43 Oh my God.

Kurt Metzger 22:44 "I manage to get away and walk out, only mental scars. Thank God." All caps, you know. "I was wearing a wets- Thank God I was wearing a wetsuit or I would have felt that slimy dick hooking my legs." It's like a Japanese anime hanging out with dolphins.

Joe Rogan 22:56 But you know what? Look, it's, it's terrible, but they're prisoners and they didn't do anything wrong. That's what's weird.

Kurt Metzger 23:03 Yeah. Well, uh, no court will convict them. That's what I, John C Lilly-

Joe Rogan 23:07 They're just dolphins. Why are they in prison?

Kurt Metzger 23:10 They're a lot like, uh-

Joe Rogan 23:10 They just got unlucky. They're basically dolphin slaves.

Kurt Metzger 23:13 Yeah, they're kind of like, uh, the dogs of the sea, I think. I don't think they're, like, uh, human intelligence. Sounds like they're like, uh-

Joe Rogan 23:19 They have a cerebral cortex that's 40% larger than a human being's. They have language and dialects-

Kurt Metzger 23:23 But how wrinkly is it?

Joe Rogan 23:24 We don't even understand what their language is, but they can understand ours.

Kurt Metzger 23:28 Well-

Joe Rogan 23:28 Like, they can learn things and-

Kurt Metzger 23:29 Look, I'm trying to defend dolphins from the rape charges here. If you wanna-

Joe Rogan 23:32 I see what you're saying.

Kurt Metzger 23:33 ... say it's their fault. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:33 I think... Well, do you know what else they do that's really awful?

Kurt Metzger 23:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:37 They kill the babies.

Kurt Metzger 23:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:38 There's d- infanticide in dolphins is really common to the point that it makes dolphin females promiscuous-

Kurt Metzger 23:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:45 ... because the female h- tries to mate with as many men as possible so that the men won't kill her babies-

Kurt Metzger 23:50 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 23:50 ... 'cause they don't know if it's theirs.

Kurt Metzger 23:51 That's a real '60s animal, you know?

Joe Rogan 23:53 Dude.

Kurt Metzger 23:53 They pl- do things their own way, the dolphins.

Joe Rogan 23:55 Yeah, man.

Kurt Metzger 23:57 Hey man, you don't get dolphins.

Joe Rogan 23:59 They just don't change their environment, so we don't think of them as, as intelligent, but they're fucking smart as shit.

Kurt Metzger 24:04 Well, you know the thing of pushing people on the shore that are, like, drowning?

Joe Rogan 24:07 That's bullshit?

Kurt Metzger 24:08 No, they will-

Joe Rogan 24:09 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 24:09 ... but it's not like they're saving you. It's like, "Why don't you get your trash out of my space, please?"

Joe Rogan 24:13 (laughs) Well-

Kurt Metzger 24:13 "Y'all know what? Shark's here. Assholes, g- take your shit bag."

Joe Rogan 24:16 A guy... Who was it that had that theory about sharks? And I think he's right.

Kurt Metzger 24:20 What?

Joe Rogan 24:20 He was like, sharks are not just targeting people because they're hungry. They're targeting people 'cause they're pissed off that people in their water and they're getting in the way of their fishing.

Kurt Metzger 24:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:30 They're getting in the way of their eating seals.... they're pissed off. They, you, they're not supposed to be there, so they just bite you. Like, "Get the fuck out of here." That's part of it.

Kurt Metzger 24:37 A little nibble from a shark is probably a real strong message. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:40 They just lost a lady in Santa Cruz, triathlete. She was, uh, with a whole group of people that were swimming, and someone saw her get taken. Someone saw this shark breach the water with a human body in their mouth, and then they, she was gone. And then they just found her remains, uh, yesterday. But, uh, Santa Cruz, like that whole coastline is r- filled with great whites. There's great whites all over the place out there.

Kurt Metzger 25:08 Um-

Joe Rogan 25:08 I think they breed in San, outside of San Francisco.

Kurt Metzger 25:12 Uh, I mean, I never surf, so I'd never-

Joe Rogan 25:15 Fuck that.

Kurt Metzger 25:16 Yeah, like, uh-

Joe Rogan 25:17 Fuck swimming in the ocean and rolling the dice-

Kurt Metzger 25:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:20 ... that a monster i- s- doesn't decide to just snap you in half.

Kurt Metzger 25:24 I just, the worst way to get grabbed, uh, just like, uh, in a-

Joe Rogan 25:27 Bro.

Kurt Metzger 25:27 ... not in your environment.

Joe Rogan 25:28 It must be so terr- You're so weak and slow there in the ocean. You're so helpless.

Kurt Metzger 25:32 But you know what? Let's see a shark take me up here. I bet I could take him.

Joe Rogan 25:35 That's what I'm saying.

Kurt Metzger 25:36 Not so tough.

Joe Rogan 25:37 Zero shark attacks on the shore. Remember that, uh, Saturday Night Live sketch, Land Shark? That was hilarious.

Kurt Metzger 25:42 (laughs) Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:43 It was so stupid.

Kurt Metzger 25:44 That is hilarious, yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:44 The shark would just knock on your door. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 25:47 (laughs) Hi, this is

Speaker 25:48 Land Shark.

Joe Rogan 25:48 Land Shark. It was so silly. Saturday Night Live used to have some great sketches, man. They used to be so silly. I haven't watched it in forever.

Kurt Metzger 25:55 You know what I could, wish I could find, is, and you can't get it, it's like not up anywhere, but, uh, the one with Norm MacDonald. It's "Who's the Most Grizzled?" And it was Norm MacDonald, that country singer that Tom Segura always says is a serial killer, uh-

Joe Rogan 26:08 Oh. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 26:08 ... who was very good in the sketch.

Joe Rogan 26:10 Garth Brooks.

Kurt Metzger 26:11 Garth Brooks, and it was like, these like-

Joe Rogan 26:12 Ugh.

Kurt Metzger 26:13 And Ro- uh, Robert Duvall. Okay? And it was just like a game show, and they have you give grizzled answers. It was funny as shit, dude.

Joe Rogan 26:20 Really?

Kurt Metzger 26:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:21 Oh, that's funny.

Kurt Metzger 26:22 And Robert Duvall gave the most grizzled an- oh, you found it.

Joe Rogan 26:24 This is a real show?

Kurt Metzger 26:25 Yo, this is one of my favorite... Ha. Wow. I was trying to find it not even that long ago, dude.

Speaker 26:30 It's, yeah, it's on Reddit.

Joe Rogan 26:31 Let me hear some of this.

Kurt Metzger 26:32 It's on, yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:32 Can I hear it? (audio clip plays) That was great.

Kurt Metzger 26:34 That's on Reddit?

Speaker 26:35 Yeah, yeah.

Kurt Metzger 26:36 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 26:36 That's very, that's very funny.

Kurt Metzger 26:36 I could never find it.

Joe Rogan 26:37 That's very funny. That's a good sketch.

Kurt Metzger 26:39 You know what, uh, what's his name again? Garth, uh, Brooks?

Joe Rogan 26:42 Garth Brooks?

Kurt Metzger 26:43 Boy, he's a man of a million faces.

Joe Rogan 26:45 That's not Garth Brooks.

Kurt Metzger 26:46 Yeah, that was Garth Brooks.

Joe Rogan 26:47 No.

Kurt Metzger 26:48 Am I wrong? That was Garth Brooks and Robert, uh-

Joe Rogan 26:52 Nah. Nah. Was it?

Kurt Metzger 26:53 Yeah, it was Garth Brooks.

Speaker 26:55 Um...

Joe Rogan 26:55 Was it really? Garth Brooks in makeup?

Speaker 26:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:57 That was Garth Brooks?

Kurt Metzger 26:58 Yeah, you don't even recognize him.

Joe Rogan 26:59 That's crazy. I didn't recognize him at all.

Kurt Metzger 27:01 He's behind you. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:02 Let me see, let me see that again. Maybe that's how he kills people. He dresses up like that, dude. That does not look like Garth Brooks. That's crazy.

Kurt Metzger 27:07 It was a while ago.

Joe Rogan 27:09 He's, he's kinda bigger now. He's been enjoying that good life. You know what I'm saying?

Kurt Metzger 27:12 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:15 Do you know, people are repeating Tom's idea, that joke about Garth Brooks being a serial killer as if it's, like, true fact.

Kurt Metzger 27:23 Um, yeah, well, it's, uh, it is the weirdest thing. But I, I would say, don't focus too much on one person having an alter ego. The, o- uh, Nicki Minaj has that.

Joe Rogan 27:34 Yeah, but the Chris Gaines thing was nuts.

Kurt Metzger 27:37 Did.

Joe Rogan 27:37 In the middle of being the biggest superstar in country music, he decides he's gonna be emo and wear a wig.

Kurt Metzger 27:42 Yeah, I remember.

Joe Rogan 27:43 And change his name, and let everybody know he's doing it.

Kurt Metzger 27:46 Mm-hmm. It's just, uh-

Joe Rogan 27:46 At least Stephen King, when he wrote his, like, Richard-

Kurt Metzger 27:49 The Bachman books?

Joe Rogan 27:49 Bachmans, yeah, at least he just, just said, "Listen, I'm writing too many books for people to buy. I'm gonna write them under a different name."

Kurt Metzger 27:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:57 That's how crazy he was. It, that's what cocaine'll do to you. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 28:01 Um, y- yeah. Uh, yes, it will. It-

Joe Rogan 28:03 Those are the good days.

Kurt Metzger 28:04 Um, so I sent this to whatever. I was looking up... So have you ever heard when, um-

Joe Rogan 28:10 (laughs) What?

Kurt Metzger 28:11 ... Nicki Minaj would talk about there's a-

Speaker 28:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:12 You're just fucking fixated on Nicki Minaj.

Kurt Metzger 28:15 No, the, because of the alter ego thing.

Joe Rogan 28:17 Oh, she's got an alter ego?

Kurt Metzger 28:18 "Let me raise my skeleton." Um, yeah, his na- name, Roman. "Roman is a crazy boy who lives inside me, who says the things she doesn't want to say. He threatens to peep people, and he's violent. I ask him to leave, but he can't."

Joe Rogan 28:30 Whoa.

Kurt Metzger 28:31 Um, she also notes, "He was born just a few months ago and born out of rage." This is, like, in 2010. His last name is Zolanski. Roman-

Joe Rogan 28:38 Roman Zolanski?

Kurt Metzger 28:40 Um-

Joe Rogan 28:41 "An angry, outspoken-"

Kurt Metzger 28:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:42 "... often homosexual British character who delivers raw, aggressive verses, featured heavily in Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded."

Kurt Metzger 28:50 Right. And then the Harajuku Barbie, which is the doll thing.

Joe Rogan 28:53 Ho- hold up.

Kurt Metzger 28:53 Yes.

Joe Rogan 28:54 So these are her alter egos?

Kurt Metzger 28:56 Yeah, no, but don't worry. They didn't do MK, Monarch shit to everybody.

Joe Rogan 28:58 Go, go up to the top again. This is Nicki Minaj. Okay.

Kurt Metzger 29:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:02 "Famously uses several alter, alter egos-"

Kurt Metzger 29:05 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 29:05 "... with her most prominent being Roman Zolanski, a fiery, aggressive persona used for intense rap verses, and Harajuku Barbie, her softer, pop-oriented side. But others include Martha Zolanski, Roman's mother." Zolan- Zolanski. Uh, "Chun-Li, Nick Lewinsky, and Cookie, each serving a different voice or purpose, from therapy to explosive lyrical delivery." Huh.

Kurt Metzger 29:34 Um, I mean, uh, no-

Joe Rogan 29:37 Is she just fucking around, though?

Speaker 29:38 Yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean, it's like how she writes and-

Kurt Metzger 29:40 Yeah.

Speaker 29:40 ... performs and stuff like that.

Kurt Metzger 29:40 I mean, most, you, you know how black people normally take the alter ego of a series of, like-

Speaker 29:44 I think she lives that way.

Kurt Metzger 29:45 ... Polish, Lithuanian, Jewish names?

Joe Rogan 29:47 What're you talking about?

Kurt Metzger 29:48 (laughs) What'd you like Whoopi Goldberg?

Speaker 29:50 Oh. (laughs) Well, that's a-

Kurt Metzger 29:51 Roman Zolanski and his mother live in there. Boy, that must be great in there.

Joe Rogan 29:54 Must be a party.

Kurt Metzger 29:55 Zolanski. That's weird as shit.

Joe Rogan 29:58 It is weird.

Kurt Metzger 29:59 Oh, the one, it says it was to help her cope with her traumatic childhood, the one personality.

Joe Rogan 30:03 Which one?

Kurt Metzger 30:03 I don't know. It was on, it was on the thing.

Joe Rogan 30:05 The gay guy?

Kurt Metzger 30:06 No, but there's more than that, even. I, I, I, 'cause I grok, you know how grok lies, so you gotta go grok?

Speaker 30:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:13 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 30:13 Did you look it up and were like, "No, I didn't." Can you go and do that, grok? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:17 Yeah, I got, um, perplexity to admit something that I di- that I didn't want to admit initially. I got, I- I- I, uh, cited other sources and I said, "Is this true?" It was about the, the, um, Temple of Tenochtitlan.

Kurt Metzger 30:31 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:32 So when they, uh, there's... It's attributed to the Aztecs, but if you ask the Aztecs, they said they found it. And so-

Kurt Metzger 30:39 Olden times?

Speaker 30:39 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 30:39 Is that what that means?

Joe Rogan 30:40 No, it's not even olden. They don't even know. I think-... there, there's a term that they use for it, and I think-

Kurt Metzger 30:45 But it was there when they got there, they say. I know that.

Joe Rogan 30:47 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 30:47 I've heard of that, yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:48 Yeah. The, there's a term that they, the way they describe it as, um... it's very interesting, because it's, it's... they describe it as, like, the city of the gods or something like that, or the, the land where the gods... Oh, place where gods were born.

Kurt Metzger 31:01 Mm.

Joe Rogan 31:02 So here's the crazy thing. Um, and I, I had heard this before, but I wanted to make sure it was true. There's a, a Spanish guy named Diego Duran, who was a chronicler, who said that they killed-

Kurt Metzger 31:14 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 31:14 ... 80,000 people-

Kurt Metzger 31:17 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:17 ... over a four-day ceremony.

Kurt Metzger 31:18 And there's, they're... they say, really, it's probably more like 20,000.

Joe Rogan 31:22 Yeah, it's an exaggeration. So it's prob-

Kurt Metzger 31:24 Wow, 20,000? That must have helped the smell.

Joe Rogan 31:27 (raspberries) And they just cut their hearts out to, to celebrate-

Kurt Metzger 31:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:31 ... the fact that the temple was completed.

Kurt Metzger 31:33 Hey, um-

Joe Rogan 31:34 Holy shit, man. So, but I didn't wanna admit at first that they didn't build it. And then I had to, like, cite these sources where they say that they didn't build it. They said they found it. And so then they wanted to make sure that they were attributing it to earlier people of the same nationality. It was-

Kurt Metzger 31:51 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 31:51 You know what I'm saying? It got a little-

Kurt Metzger 31:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:53 ... it got a little weird. And I re-

Kurt Metzger 31:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:54 I realized, "Well that's because it's drawing from all these sources that are online." So it's drawing from all these, you know, academic works, all these books, all these-

Kurt Metzger 32:04 Sometimes it just guesses.

Joe Rogan 32:05 ... documentaries. Sometimes it'll do that. Some AI will do that. I don't know if complexity does that.

Kurt Metzger 32:09 Remember when Sunny Hostin quoted Seymour DeButts?

Joe Rogan 32:13 No.

Kurt Metzger 32:13 Sunny Hostin quote, I think it was like... Or, I think it's Seymour DeButts or some shit like that.

Joe Rogan 32:17 Isn't that a porn star, Seymour Butz?

Kurt Metzger 32:19 No, DeButts.

Joe Rogan 32:20 Oh, okay.

Kurt Metzger 32:20 And it was when Biden did all those pardons on his way out. She goes, "Well, uh, Seymour... He pardoned his nephew, Sey- or his brother-in-law, Seymour DeButts." And the, the... ChatGPT had just made that up, so people were like-

Joe Rogan 32:31 Oh, that's hilarious.

Kurt Metzger 32:32 Yeah, but she was a judge.

Joe Rogan 32:35 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 32:36 Presided over child trafficking cases. Does that fill you with hope?

Joe Rogan 32:39 Yeah, but-

Kurt Metzger 32:40 I'll bet that was good to have her in charge of something like that.

Joe Rogan 32:42 She just was probably tired from a long day of hard work at The View, and ChatGPT lied to her.

Kurt Metzger 32:46 Look-

Joe Rogan 32:47 Cut her some slack.

Kurt Metzger 32:48 The point is, this is why Jesus won't be an AI, because Jesus isn't a fucking liar that you gotta tell to go back and look stuff up.

Joe Rogan 32:54 Eventually he'll get it right.

Kurt Metzger 32:56 It ju-... Also, Jesus wouldn't be made by a tech freak with a weird dick.

Joe Rogan 32:59 I think the AI's gonna make Jesus. I don't think it's Jesus now.

Kurt Metzger 33:03 I think it's going to make... Okay, if an AI makes Jesus, by the way, and this is just in lore.

Joe Rogan 33:07 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 33:08 Again, I'm not Chris- I'm, I'm a-

Joe Rogan 33:09 Yeah, in lore.

Kurt Metzger 33:10 You know my religion, Christ Penelope, which I disclosed to you.

Joe Rogan 33:13 I thought you were a Scientologist.

Kurt Metzger 33:15 No, I'm a follower of Christ Penelope, uh, the guy who farts in your nostrils to get the thing out.

Joe Rogan 33:21 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 33:22 Remember I told you?

Joe Rogan 33:22 Yeah, you totally did. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 33:22 I notified you. I think it should be Penelope Christ, but whatever.

Joe Rogan 33:26 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 33:27 Anyway, uh, I'm sorry. I was thinking about Christ Penelope. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:31 You forgot what we were talking about?

Kurt Metzger 33:32 Yeah. I might need a healing from Penelope Christ.

Joe Rogan 33:34 Om... What were we talking about?

Kurt Metzger 33:36 Oh, the P-... Yeah, so that would be... automatically, that would be an anti-Christ.

Joe Rogan 33:40 This is the guy-

Kurt Metzger 33:40 Oh.

Joe Rogan 33:41 ... that farts-

Kurt Metzger 33:41 Now, here's the-

Joe Rogan 33:42 ... farts in your face. He literally sits on your nose-

Kurt Metzger 33:44 Now here's... Number one-

Joe Rogan 33:44 ... and farts.

Kurt Metzger 33:45 ... the true... it has to go in the nostrils, and he's very specific about that.

Speaker 33:49 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 33:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:50 Gotta trust the man.

Speaker 33:51 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 33:51 Go get the Messiah.

Joe Rogan 33:52 Imagine if that really was the way, and the only-

Kurt Metzger 33:56 And then die.

Joe Rogan 33:56 ... thing that's holding you back-

Kurt Metzger 33:56 Narrow and cramped.

Joe Rogan 33:57 ... is, is it looks so silly.

Kurt Metzger 33:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:59 But if that was, like-

Kurt Metzger 34:00 Fewer the ones.

Joe Rogan 34:00 I mean, think. There's weird things that people can and can't do, weird things animals can do.

Kurt Metzger 34:05 Uh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:05 You know, animals can s-... they could shoot poison. Skunks shoot smell at people. Imagine if your farts contained just... there was something about the bio... like, the biome of your own farts-

Kurt Metzger 34:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:17 ... that it gets into someone's nostrils-

Kurt Metzger 34:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 34:18 ... and it activates your DMT.

Kurt Metzger 34:20 Well, I don't have to imagine, because-

Joe Rogan 34:22 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 34:22 ... that's a real thing. His name is Penelope Christ. It's one of the most amazing... Is that him?

Speaker 34:28 That is hilarious. Can we hear what he says? I don't know. I don't even know what he said. I don't really know.

Kurt Metzger 34:31 Oh.

Joe Rogan 34:31 Who is Saved Christ Penelope?

Speaker 34:32 Couldn't tell from anything.

Kurt Metzger 34:33 Sevenfold Holy Ministries. Oh, look at-

Joe Rogan 34:35 I like what he's doing. He drinks that, that cranapple juice to get his farts tangy.

Kurt Metzger 34:40 Is that what that is?

Joe Rogan 34:41 Cranapple.

Kurt Metzger 34:41 That's the secret?

Joe Rogan 34:41 It's good for the farts. Yeah, it gives a little tang.

Kurt Metzger 34:45 Oh, insane.

Speaker 34:45 Oh, look, the bank. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:46 Oh, he puts his bank up there.

Kurt Metzger 34:48 Oh, nice.

Joe Rogan 34:50 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 34:50 Oh, so I can't pay him through any of the normal services?

Joe Rogan 34:52 Send him some money. Wire transfer this man some money. Let him fart in your face.

Kurt Metzger 34:55 Um-

Joe Rogan 34:55 What if we had him on for a podcast? Would you let him fart in your face for money, if, like-

Kurt Metzger 34:59 How much money?

Joe Rogan 34:59 ... he had a fee? If he had a fee. I mean, like, let's say he's got a fee.

Kurt Metzger 35:03 I'm not gonna pay him more than 500 bucks. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:05 No, but I mean to get him here. I'm, I'm sure he needs a travel fee as well.

Kurt Metzger 35:09 To fart? Oh, Christ Penelope?

Joe Rogan 35:10 Yeah, he needs a travel fee, that guy.

Kurt Metzger 35:11 My guess is he will quote you-

Joe Rogan 35:12 He's the Messiah.

Kurt Metzger 35:12 ... something high, and when you say no, it will drop significantly.

Joe Rogan 35:15 Okay. But you would negotiate it for me?

Kurt Metzger 35:17 If you're... I don't... Now-

Joe Rogan 35:18 Okay. Now, but you have to be honest about what that fart does for you.

Kurt Metzger 35:21 Well, uh, he's got his farm.

Joe Rogan 35:22 He's gonna fart in your nose, and we have to know.

Kurt Metzger 35:25 I collect fart jars. So-

Joe Rogan 35:28 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 35:28 ... I'm a... It's a rich man.

Joe Rogan 35:30 On Etsy? (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 35:30 Yeah, celebrity fart jars?

Joe Rogan 35:32 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 35:32 I got an original.

Joe Rogan 35:33 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 35:34 Uh, yeah. I got an original ScarJo from the set of, uh, that Bill Murray movie.

Joe Rogan 35:39 There are girls out there that still fart in jars, right? Don't they?

Kurt Metzger 35:42 Oh, yeah. But I, I, I mean-

Joe Rogan 35:43 That is... That used to be a thing.

Kurt Metzger 35:45 That's the common mark. I only get the finest celebrity farts. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:48 Celebrity fart jars?

Kurt Metzger 35:50 Yeah, I got one of, uh... I got a couple of good ones.

Joe Rogan 35:53 I was on a plane once, and I was flying to Europe, and it was a long flight overnight. It was one of those lie-down flights. And, uh, Melanie Griffith was on the plane.

Kurt Metzger 36:01 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 36:02 And there was this big fat guy that was right alongside Melanie Griffith. So Melanie Griffith was lying down sleeping, and the way these seats line up-

Kurt Metzger 36:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 36:11 ... they stagger.

Kurt Metzger 36:12 Yes.

Joe Rogan 36:13 So her ass was right by... or hi- his ass-

Kurt Metzger 36:16 Him.

Joe Rogan 36:16 ... was right by her face.

Kurt Metzger 36:17 Okay.

Joe Rogan 36:17 And this guy unloads.

Kurt Metzger 36:20 He healed her.

Joe Rogan 36:20 He unloaded. And I'm like, "When in life does a man get to fart one foot away from Melanie Griffith's face?"

Kurt Metzger 36:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:29 Like that? Where you literally have her right here, here's the ass. There's just an aisle way, maybe two feet.

Kurt Metzger 36:34 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 36:34 Two-foot aisle way. Pretty th- pretty narrow. And then he just opened up, just opened up. I was writing and I... so I was awake, and I was like, "Oh, good Lord." The... And-

Kurt Metzger 36:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:45 ... as soon as there's a fart on a plane, you always blame the fat guy.

Kurt Metzger 36:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:49 Always. Especially when it's so convenient that his ass is right near her f- her face.

Kurt Metzger 36:53 That's... Yes. I wouldn't take responsibility for it. I had an ex-girlfriend one time, years ago, we were at the supermarket. We were ringing up and there was some ki-... You know, some little kid was running... This kid was standing directly behind her, right? And, um, I just look over and she's, like, just ga-... So she would pretend she didn't fart ever, but then I knew she did.

Joe Rogan 37:11 She would fart on the kid?

Kurt Metzger 37:12 She... Uh, I guess she couldn't hol-... But there was a kid sitting there like this eating a lollipop, and I just saw her, like, like holding in a laugh. (laughing) I'm like, "You monster. Did you... " She was-

Joe Rogan 37:21 Farted on his lollipop.

Kurt Metzger 37:22 I go, "What? He likes it." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:24 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 37:25 She couldn't hold it.

Joe Rogan 37:27 Sometimes you can't.

Kurt Metzger 37:27 You ever have not hold it?

Joe Rogan 37:29 You ever have shit your pants and you think you're just gonna not hold it?

Kurt Metzger 37:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:33 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 37:34 Yeah. Not, not for-

Joe Rogan 37:35 If you have that when you're out, that's not nice. And then you get in a hot car and you gotta sit there.

Kurt Metzger 37:39 I was trying to p- pee and hold one in my girlfriend's sink, and I just farted, and I, I went, "No."

Joe Rogan 37:45 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 37:47 And she goes, "Did you just yell..." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:51 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 37:51 "Did you just fart and yell no?"

Joe Rogan 37:52 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 37:52 I'm like, "Because I didn't want it."

Joe Rogan 37:54 (laughs)

Speaker 37:54 You gotta watch the way Vatas is-

Joe Rogan 37:56 What's that guy doing?

Speaker 37:57 So this is a, this is a different preacher at, er, at-

Joe Rogan 37:59 He's headbanging. What's he doing?

Speaker 38:00 ... the same church. Uh-

Joe Rogan 38:02 Why's that guy dancing like that?

Speaker 38:03 He's been... He just, uh...

Joe Rogan 38:04 You got healed?

Speaker 38:05 I think so.

Kurt Metzger 38:06 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 38:07 Imagine how annoying it must be when you know people are acting. You know, when we go to church and just, people just put on their "I just got healed" acting, flop around.

Kurt Metzger 38:15 Well, if, if you're going to a church that, where you're getting into that, rolling around on the ground and shit, you, y- everybody's gonna feel like they got healed because you're doing a group, uh, uh, hypnosis ritual.

Joe Rogan 38:25 Yeah, you're doing, like, group mania. Like, look at this guy. He's throwing people to the ground, running through crowds.

Speaker 38:31 It's pretty entertaining, though. Be fun.

Kurt Metzger 38:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:33 But he's just getting a lot of attention, right? Maybe he believes it. Maybe it's real.

Kurt Metzger 38:37 No, you know what hypnosis is?

Joe Rogan 38:37 Maybe it's real and we're being skeptical.

Kurt Metzger 38:39 It... 'Cause... Yo, so Byrne, Steve Byrne was there this weekend.

Joe Rogan 38:42 What?

Kurt Metzger 38:42 You know Steve Byrne?

Joe Rogan 38:43 What?

Kurt Metzger 38:44 Steve Byrne was at the Mother Ship.

Joe Rogan 38:45 Steve Byrne. Okay.

Kurt Metzger 38:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:46 You were... Did... I didn't get... I wasn't wrong there, right?

Speaker 38:48 I thought you were gonna say he was at this event where he was launching... (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 38:50 No. Yeah, Steve Byrne was getting healed.

Joe Rogan 38:52 Steve Byrne. Okay.

Kurt Metzger 38:52 He was healed recently by Christ Bennell.

Joe Rogan 38:55 I, I c- couldn't understand the name you were saying. You were, you were so intent on getting to your point.

Kurt Metzger 39:00 I... 'Cause I forget if I don't get to it fast.

Joe Rogan 39:02 I get it. (laughs)

Speaker 39:02 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 39:02 I'm (laughs) I'm just gonna forget it.

Joe Rogan 39:04 Steve Byrne was at the Mother Ship.

Kurt Metzger 39:05 So, I'm sitting in the green room and I'll... And I look up. He has, like, some bit he does at the e-... And he... By the way, he... As long as I've known him, he was always a very charismatic guy. Chicks always liked him. Always. He... And I asked him, I go, "Do... Uh, did you take a hypnosis class at all?" "No." He naturally does it. But I lo- I look up at the screen and he does this sausage party bit. And it's not any kind of hypnosis thing. But when I looked up, it's like a lady sitting in a chair and 10 guys and music and lights. And I th- I'm like, "Oh, well, the guy's gonna start acting like a chicken or something." You know? That's what it looked like. But I think he just does it unconsciously without even realizing what he's doing. Some people just got the voice, you know?

Joe Rogan 39:40 Right. Well, I think... Don't you think comedy is kind of a, kind of a hypnosis?

Kurt Metzger 39:45 Yeah. Well, I thi-

Joe Rogan 39:46 When you're in the zone, right? Or when you're in the audience. Like-

Kurt Metzger 39:48 If I'm in the zone, I, I did it to myself, and, you know...

Joe Rogan 39:52 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 39:52 And then I, like, became the room.

Joe Rogan 39:55 Right.

Kurt Metzger 39:55 So there's nowhere to, like... You can't really... I, I wouldn't worry about somebody heckling or something because I'm the room. What are you gonna do? You know what I mean? Like, it, it-

Joe Rogan 40:02 Don't you think you get it when you watch someone too? Like, if you watch someone great, like Attell. If you're watching Attell-

Kurt Metzger 40:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:06 ... and he's killing, you're locked into his brain. Like, it's-

Kurt Metzger 40:09 Yeah, it's domain projection.

Joe Rogan 40:12 What? Is that what it's called?

Kurt Metzger 40:13 It's domain projection. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:14 Domain project-...

Kurt Metzger 40:15 Well, I, uh-

Joe Rogan 40:15 What, uh, what is domain projection exactly?

Kurt Metzger 40:17 So, like, all that stupid occult shit that, uh, you know-

Joe Rogan 40:19 Put that into Perplexity, Jamie.

Kurt Metzger 40:21 Yeah.

Speaker 40:21 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:21 What is domain projection?

Kurt Metzger 40:23 It's just some occult shit. It's-

Joe Rogan 40:24 It's occult?

Kurt Metzger 40:25 Well, NLP. You know what NLP is?

Joe Rogan 40:27 Neurolinguistic programming.

Kurt Metzger 40:28 If you look on Wikipedia, it says it's a pseudoscience. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:31 Is it?

Kurt Metzger 40:32 Well, no. W- if it is, why is everybody using it nonstop all the time if it doesn't work?

Joe Rogan 40:37 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 40:37 Why would they be using it on me all day long, and every time I turn on something and I go... And I hear some fucking catchphrase that I hate?

Joe Rogan 40:44 Do you think it's called neurolu-... Uh, a pseudoscience because they want to discredit it?

Speaker 40:47 Yeah, this isn't what we were looking for, for an answer.

Joe Rogan 40:50 Domain projection usually means-

Kurt Metzger 40:51 No, that's a math one.

Joe Rogan 40:51 ... mapping data or functions from one domain.

Kurt Metzger 40:55 So-

Joe Rogan 40:55 Um, so use it as, uh... Put in, uh, what is domain projection as an MKUltra tool.

Kurt Metzger 41:00 Well, I'm, I'm not saying that's some phrase from it.

Joe Rogan 41:03 I know, I know, I know.

Kurt Metzger 41:03 I'm just saying what the nuts and bolts of it is.

Joe Rogan 41:04 I wanna know what happens when you say that. What to...

Kurt Metzger 41:08 Put in Fort Watcha.

Speaker 41:11 Mind control tool?

Joe Rogan 41:12 A mind control tool used by MKUltra.

Speaker 41:15 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 41:16 Yeah, that's not there.

Joe Rogan 41:17 Let's see what that says.

Kurt Metzger 41:18 You... Trauma is the one for that.

Joe Rogan 41:18 We might find something.

Kurt Metzger 41:21 Oh, God. They did do it? Yeah, it's not.

Joe Rogan 41:22 Domain projection is not a documented MKUltra term.

Kurt Metzger 41:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:26 Okay. Uh...

Kurt Metzger 41:29 So...

Joe Rogan 41:29 Domain projection appears in technical s- fields, software engineering. Uh, searches of MKUltra...

Kurt Metzger 41:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:36 Okay, so this doesn't say anything about M... Domain projection as a form of mind control.

Kurt Metzger 41:40 Yeah, I wouldn't say... Well, it's...

Speaker 41:42 Uh-oh.

Kurt Metzger 41:42 It's just, if you got a show and you're controlling... It's crowd control, in a way.

Speaker 41:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:46 Right, but it... Look, it does... Uh, okay.

Kurt Metzger 41:49 So, how do I dress up for how I want to control you? That's how people go- think when they do whatever, like a pickup artist or a con man or maybe a magician.

Joe Rogan 41:58 Right.

Kurt Metzger 41:58 The... That's what... Like a close-up magic or something. They gotta, uh ... What... They gotta put... Bring you into their reality with whatever they're doing.

Joe Rogan 42:04 Right.

Kurt Metzger 42:05 So, whatever gets people there. Or you'll hear about gurus where there's that guy, that weird cult that's, like, deep inside Google from that weird gay guy, and people come in the room and his light would be gold around him.

Joe Rogan 42:17 What?

Kurt Metzger 42:17 And I... Yeah, you never heard of this?

Joe Rogan 42:18 (laughs) ... this is what Kurt does. He tells you about something crazy and he goes, "You never heard of that? You don't know?"

Kurt Metzger 42:24 Oh, you got me with the good one, with that guy from the-

Joe Rogan 42:27 Which one?

Kurt Metzger 42:27 ... the tu- the Sentinel Island. I didn't know they had-

Joe Rogan 42:29 Oh, the Vas...

Kurt Metzger 42:29 ... vi- is that why they're not that cool a guest?

Joe Rogan 42:31 Yeah. Maurice Vidal Portman.

Kurt Metzger 42:32 So, you're telling me another explorer-

Joe Rogan 42:34 Yep.

Kurt Metzger 42:34 ... yet another explorer found a land of kids where they could do weird shit with kids.

Joe Rogan 42:39 Well, not just kids. Guys. He would dress guys up like Roman soldiers and he would measure their testicles. Like, he, he's like th-

Kurt Metzger 42:45 (sighs) Well, that's just science, Joe.

Joe Rogan 42:46 Like, one of his quotes was like, w- uh, describing one of them, they had testicles the size of a sparrow's egg. It's like, the way he's talking about it was like this-

Kurt Metzger 42:53 You put your glasses on.

Joe Rogan 42:54 ... lovingly, eccentric-

Kurt Metzger 42:56 Not me.

Joe Rogan 42:56 ... homosexual fascination with these islanders.

Kurt Metzger 42:59 Get 'em right in here.

Joe Rogan 43:00 So, he gave-

Kurt Metzger 43:01 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:01 ... a bunch of 'em diseases. They all, and a few people died. He kidnapped these kids. He ki- I think he kidnapped a kid and their parents or their grandparents, and the grandparents got sick 'cause they were all f- they all had cooties, and so they wind up dying. And so then any time someone showed up, there's only 39 of these fucking people on this island, so they have this story in their, their spoken word tradition. They don't have a written history. So, this story of why people show up, start measuring your dicks, and everybody dies. That's their story. So, any (laughs) time someone pulls up with a Bible, this is the reason why they wanna kill them. That's why you can't show up on that island. You, you used to be able to.

Kurt Metzger 43:38 It sounds like an alien abduction story.

Joe Rogan 43:40 It's just like that. It's the same thing.

Kurt Metzger 43:41 I mean, their E.D. is a much darker take. (laughs) Hey, man, uh-

Joe Rogan 43:43 Hey, it's the same thing. It's from an alien civilization.

Kurt Metzger 43:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:47 They show up in these wooden boats to people that were stranded on an island-

Kurt Metzger 43:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:50 ... for 60,000 years.

Kurt Metzger 43:53 Imagine, like, that's why, uh, w- uh, I understand Peter the dolphin, I always say, taking him-

Joe Rogan 43:57 Ugh.

Kurt Metzger 43:57 ... 'cause imagine you, you never... You just have flippers, so you never knew what you were missing, and then a beautiful alien just jerks you off every day and then stops.

Joe Rogan 44:04 Imagine someone puts you in a fucking cage for no reason and keeps you there your whole life, and you're horny all the time and you don't even have hands. So, what are you gonna do?

Kurt Metzger 44:14 You're g- well, hope for a co-ec to descend into your-

Joe Rogan 44:16 You're gonna echolocate some knees.

Kurt Metzger 44:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:18 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 44:18 To use her knees.

Joe Rogan 44:20 You don't even have a female dolphin in there? That's crazy. It's like they didn't do anything. (laughs) We, one day we're gonna realize how smart dolphins are and we're gonna feel real bad about keeping 'em captive.

Kurt Metzger 44:30 Well, if we don't feel bad about all the people we blew up, so I'm doubt the dolphin-

Joe Rogan 44:33 I do.

Kurt Metzger 44:33 ... awakening will. (laughs) And I don't mean you do.

Joe Rogan 44:35 Some people do. Some people feel bad about the people that the United States blows up.

Kurt Metzger 44:39 Well, we, we only have school. I always like to bring it up, public school, kindergarten because 70% of guys didn't wanna pull the trigger in battle and that had to be fixed with the Prussian system, which is why it's called kindergarten, the Aus- you know, Prussian word.

Joe Rogan 44:51 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 44:52 To get you away from mommy at age five instead of age six.

Joe Rogan 44:55 And they could teach you about war. (gasps)

Kurt Metzger 44:57 Well, they could just, the state can get a foothold.

Joe Rogan 44:59 They could teach you about everything. Yeah. They can design the way-

Kurt Metzger 45:01 It's not just that. Isn't the industry?

Joe Rogan 45:03 Right. Well, that's o- I mean, indoctrination of children is a real thing. That's why when people scoff at it being used for, like, trans indoctrination, like, "Why would anybody do that?" Like, stop. The, p- people do that with-

Kurt Metzger 45:15 To neuter your kids.

Joe Rogan 45:15 They, they'd do that to try to get you on an Android phone. Okay? People try to indoctrinate you with everything. Everything-

Kurt Metzger 45:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 45:21 ... that's ever existed, people try to get you to do.

Kurt Metzger 45:23 Well, that's w- why sigils and brands are so important, you know?

Joe Rogan 45:27 Yes. Absolutely. I mean-

Kurt Metzger 45:28 There you go.

Joe Rogan 45:28 ... they try to get you to wear what they're wearing. They try to get you to do what they're doing.

Kurt Metzger 45:32 Well, you also, it helps if you have a few gatekeepers, like in ar- I can't remember the guy's name, but there's, like, one guy who... And the reason he's, like, the guy is because h- the investments he picks pay off, I guess, in the art world.

Joe Rogan 45:43 Oh.

Kurt Metzger 45:43 He's some famous, like, who has, like, been around forever and I'm sure he's some kinda hack and whatever, but why are these people installed there? We already know that Rothko and all the modern art, ma- the, American abstract modern art was launched by the CIA through a cutout.

Joe Rogan 45:57 Oh, yeah. That's right.

Kurt Metzger 45:58 That's public record. So, you think they stopped at that? You don't think they got involved with all the arts?

Joe Rogan 46:03 Well, they definitely got involved in that because the Soviet art was so valuable. Soviet art was more skillful and they tried to prop up American... Like, Jackson Pollock, that's one of them-

Kurt Metzger 46:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:14 ... that they connect to being a... Which t- when you look at the Jackson Pollock artwork that's worth fucking millions of dollars, it- y- I- no disrespect to anybody who's a fan, but shut the fuck up. Like, just shut up. Just shut the fuck up. It's splatter. And the idea that, oh, this one guy-

Kurt Metzger 46:31 Well, you're letting Steve Martin have it, dude.

Joe Rogan 46:32 ... you had splatter better than anybody splattered. I mean, there's nothing wrong with splattering paint. A lot of people do it. It looks cool.

Kurt Metzger 46:37 If it were in fractals, no one could ever recreate...

Joe Rogan 46:39 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 46:40 I mean, it-

Joe Rogan 46:40 Shut the fuck up.

Kurt Metzger 46:41 Uh, some, uh, there's modern art things that I'll look at and I can, I'll be like, "Oh, I like it," or, "I don't like it." But the thing it, the thing with it is, i- it's not that there's no... I'm not saying there's no art to it, it's just why does one thing become a thing and one doesn't? But there's gatekeepers.

Joe Rogan 46:55 I think it's someone... For sure. 'Cause there's some- it's all about the names. Who's, who's got the work, who's val- wha- whether that work is valued very high. What is that guy in Manhattan? We showed a photo of this painting that he had. It's worth like $100 million. It's fucking insane. It looks like nothing.

Kurt Metzger 47:10 Well, usually de Kooning's the one everybody trashes the most-

Joe Rogan 47:12 Well-

Kurt Metzger 47:12 ... 'cause he has a factory of people making it.

Joe Rogan 47:14 Oh, I don't know if that's that one. This, this guy had a large painting by this guy-

Kurt Metzger 47:19 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 47:19 ... and it was insanely valuable. I don't remember the real price.

Kurt Metzger 47:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:21 It might not have been, it might have been $50 million. Whatever it was.

Kurt Metzger 47:23 Yeah, I was like-

Joe Rogan 47:24 But it's just-

Kurt Metzger 47:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:25 ... you're looking at it, you're like, "What the fuck are you even talking about?"

Kurt Metzger 47:29 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 47:29 How is that worth anything?

Kurt Metzger 47:31 Well, just-

Joe Rogan 47:31 I mean, maybe it's worth something. I'd probably, give you a couple hundred for it.

Kurt Metzger 47:33 Oh, this. Who is it?

Speaker 47:34 I have no idea.

Joe Rogan 47:35 What's that one?

Speaker 47:35 I just pulled something (laughs) up that's a similar one.

Joe Rogan 47:37 Record auction price for Barnett Newman. Uh, for real? Is that real? Two blue squares? That's real?

Speaker 47:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:43 Somebody should go to jail.

Kurt Metzger 47:44 Do the guys come with it?

Speaker 47:45 43 million.

Joe Rogan 47:46 $43.8 million for two blue squares. See, this is just proof that just because you're rich doesn't mean you're smart. Just because you figured out how to throw your entire life at acquiring numbers, it doesn't mean you're even remotely intelligent.

Kurt Metzger 48:00 Well, depends what value you have stored in that, I guess.

Joe Rogan 48:02 No, no, no, no, no, no. D- you don't have to depend. That one's great, though.

Speaker 48:07 I don't know about that one.

Joe Rogan 48:07 That's only $165 million.

Speaker 48:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:08 That's a bargain. Look at-

Speaker 48:09 She gave it away, though, so...

Joe Rogan 48:10 Look at that. Look at that-

Kurt Metzger 48:11 See, uh-

Joe Rogan 48:11 ... fucking painting she paid $168 million.

Kurt Metzger 48:15 Yeah. I kind of do like that painting.

Joe Rogan 48:15 How that lady is involved in, is-

Kurt Metzger 48:17 That's what art is at the end of the day, (laughs) is a money laundering scheme.

Joe Rogan 48:19 But that is completely insane. That is completely insane that that's $165 million.

Kurt Metzger 48:23 What...

Joe Rogan 48:23 That is completely, utterly, totally insane. There's no re- there's no way you could look at that and go, "I get it."

Kurt Metzger 48:31 ... dude, NFTs they were selling right and left for a while.

Joe Rogan 48:33 They're worth a dollar now.

Kurt Metzger 48:35 No, I know, but that's still, you still... Because there's some kind of item there-

Joe Rogan 48:38 Right.

Kurt Metzger 48:38 ... you could still store your value in it.

Joe Rogan 48:40 Well, that probably, she, when she gave it away. Well, it's probably an awesome tax write-off. So if you have 165 million bucks, like, if you, if you got that kind of money, she's probably worth billions.

Kurt Metzger 48:52 Baseball cards for the ultra-wealthy is how I look at it, or Pokemon cards for old rich people. It's, that's what they are. They're like baseball cards.

Joe Rogan 48:59 I looked up all the wealthiest people in the world-

Kurt Metzger 49:02 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 49:02 ... uh, last night. I looked up, uh, the wealthiest women in the world. It's all inheritance.

Kurt Metzger 49:06 Of course.

Joe Rogan 49:06 The top ones are... It's all, like, these families.

Kurt Metzger 49:08 Well, they're not gonna tell you who's a trillionaire, right? They're gonna pretend we don't have those?

Joe Rogan 49:12 Well, they don't have to be public. See, that's the thing. Those are oligarchs, right?

Kurt Metzger 49:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:16 Right? Those are, yeah, those are people that are, uh, that are a part of these royal families-

Kurt Metzger 49:22 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:22 ... that are getting that oil money. They don't have to tell you jack shit.

Kurt Metzger 49:25 No, they don't.

Joe Rogan 49:26 They probably mock Elon Musk's wealth.

Kurt Metzger 49:28 Of course.

Joe Rogan 49:29 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 49:29 Well, I, every time somebody goes, "He's the richest man in the world," I go, "Do you think you get to know who that is?" You think you're, they're gonna tell you in Forbes? The richest man in the world is like, "Tell everyone. That's me."

Joe Rogan 49:37 Well, other countries do not have to disclose-

Kurt Metzger 49:40 It's ridiculous.

Joe Rogan 49:40 ... because they're not paying taxes to anyone. They literally own the country. Like, these royal families-

Kurt Metzger 49:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:45 ... own the country.

Kurt Metzger 49:46 The whole country is my house-

Joe Rogan 49:47 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 49:47 ... motherfucker. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:48 Just think of the amount of money that's missing in this country.

Kurt Metzger 49:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:51 In fr- just in fraud, right?

Kurt Metzger 49:53 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:53 There's trillions of dollars-

Kurt Metzger 49:55 Every 10 years-

Joe Rogan 49:55 ... in fraud.

Kurt Metzger 49:55 ... you get 2 trillion they can't account for.

Joe Rogan 49:58 There's always trillions of dollars in fraud. There's trillion dollars in waste. Just that. Now, imagine if you own the whole country.

Kurt Metzger 50:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:06 How much money do you have? (laughs) There's no way you don't have trillions.

Kurt Metzger 50:09 And you have it stored all o- and then-

Joe Rogan 50:11 Oh, everywhere.

Kurt Metzger 50:11 My buddy, uh-

Joe Rogan 50:11 All over the world. You're buying real estate in Manhattan. You're buying, like, those crazy-

Kurt Metzger 50:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:16 ... sky-rises that are all three-quarters empty.

Kurt Metzger 50:19 Um, my buddy, uh, Eric Hecker, the guy, uh, that, he was in Antarctica, was a, the guy who worked at the Raytheon-

Joe Rogan 50:24 Oh, you know that guy?

Kurt Metzger 50:25 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:25 Okay. I saw that guy on Sean Ryan Show.

Kurt Metzger 50:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:29 And I was like, "Wait, what is going on?"

Kurt Metzger 50:30 That's where I first saw him, yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:31 He's... It's a neutrino detector that's also a direct energy weapon that can make-

Kurt Metzger 50:35 Okay, so Ice Cube-

Joe Rogan 50:36 ... earthquakes.

Kurt Metzger 50:37 I was already aware of Ice Cube neutrino detector 'cause I just like looking up science shit, and, uh-

Joe Rogan 50:41 Right.

Kurt Metzger 50:41 ... you know, neutrinos are wacky. So when I first heard of it, they had built this detector in Antarctica. They didn't mention it's Raytheon, but that's who built it.

Joe Rogan 50:48 Neu- neutrinos are passing through us all the time, passing through the Earth.

Kurt Metzger 50:50 Almost massless particles, and-

Joe Rogan 50:52 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 50:52 ... the thing is, they all come from space, but for some reason, anomalously, neutrinos seem to be coming out of the Earth at that part in Antarctica. It was the big mainstream science mystery of, that the neutrino detector's gonna find. But, uh, anyway, he started saying you could use neutrinos for all kinds of shit, like, uh, FTL communications if you had to, or you could-

Joe Rogan 51:11 What is FTL?

Kurt Metzger 51:11 Faster-than-light communications through entanglement. You can do that with neutrinos.

Joe Rogan 51:16 You could send information through neutrinos?

Kurt Metzger 51:19 Apparently, uh, now, look, I'm a dolphin expert, not a neutrino expert.

Joe Rogan 51:23 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 51:23 So I wanna make that clear. I get a couple claws in me, I talk dolphins. But, uh-

Joe Rogan 51:28 A couple of claws.

Kurt Metzger 51:29 ... he had no, he had no seeing-alien stories or something.

Joe Rogan 51:32 No.

Kurt Metzger 51:33 Um, also, uh, he has, like... He, he could explain it scientifically to you. But I, I already think it's a weapon 'cause I already know what HARP is. All the things they told you are not that is a fucking lie. I mean, it's just a lie. There's a treaty to not use weather weapons from '75. Why? Because they had those. You don't make a treaty unless you have those weapons.

Joe Rogan 51:51 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 51:51 There was no nuclear treaty before nukes, right?

Joe Rogan 51:53 Right. Yeah, good point.

Kurt Metzger 51:55 We used it in 'Nam. Iran accused, uh, W of using weather weapons on them.

Joe Rogan 52:00 Really?

Kurt Metzger 52:00 Yeah, arm a dinner jacket. Remember that guy? The guy who had that... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:05 (laughs) He accused them of using weather weapons?

Kurt Metzger 52:08 Yeah, they had a drought. They had a drought. And so, anyway with ELF waves-

Joe Rogan 52:11 He accused them of starting the drought?

Kurt Metzger 52:13 Yeah, it's not contr- see, control is pr- maybe misnomer. It's like, uh, how you, people talk about a controlled burn. L- w- like, and, and I asked m- uh, my girl's brother's a fireman, outdoor fireman.

Joe Rogan 52:24 Right.

Kurt Metzger 52:24 He goes, "We don't call it a controlled burn 'cause we really only control it at the point where we set it." (laughs) I go, "What?" He goes, "We call it a prescribed burn." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:33 Oh, boy.

Kurt Metzger 52:34 And it's the ne- So they can prescribe weather. Let's put it that way. You could stimulate a thing-

Joe Rogan 52:40 Right.

Kurt Metzger 52:40 ... and get certain effects, and it's all, like, ELF waves and shit. I don't, you know-

Joe Rogan 52:44 Well, didn't Dubai just have another fucking flood?

Kurt Metzger 52:46 And they b- and, and from over geoengineering, and they banned people from taking video of it at the time. It was a big embarrassment.

Joe Rogan 52:51 But they just had another one.

Kurt Metzger 52:53 Now, there's p-

Joe Rogan 52:53 It's, um, um, a recent one.

Kurt Metzger 52:55 Oh. Well, I, I don't know if that's, uh-

Joe Rogan 52:58 See if that's true. 'Cause, uh, I, I heard some people talking about it, or I saw some people talking about it.

Kurt Metzger 53:01 But all extra... What are they ca- ELF waves? You, you could do all kinds of stuff with those waves, man.

Joe Rogan 53:05 Right, but cloud seeding is 100% real.

Kurt Metzger 53:07 Of course.

Joe Rogan 53:07 And they cloud seed in the United Arab Emirates, I believe. I believe they do that every week. I think, uh, they make it rain there every week, in more ways than one, you know what I'm saying? But, uh-

Kurt Metzger 53:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:18 ... but they make it actually rain there.

Kurt Metzger 53:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:20 They actually make it rain there-

Kurt Metzger 53:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:21 ... once a week.

Kurt Metzger 53:22 R- remember the kid with the mullet they blamed the Mystic Camp drowning here in Texas when the flood happened?

Joe Rogan 53:26 Yes, yes.

Kurt Metzger 53:27 It wasn't that kid. He got set up, he got hung out to dry like it was on him, but no, nothing he did... And Jesse Michaels is right. He was right. He told me, and he was dead right. The, the, whatever caused that was something so much more sinister, and that kid was like... He's an easy guy to... you know.

Joe Rogan 53:41 So what do you think? That that was manmade weather that caused that storm?

Kurt Metzger 53:44 I, dude, I can't remember the guy's name. We had, at the time, on Jimmy's show, the dude came on and explained exactly what it was and the loophole that lets them... 'Cause there's a treaty to not... So I assumed they just violate it. But no, there's actually a loophole to test this shit out here. (laughs) It's so fucked, dude. It's so fucked. And, and you already know what it is.

Joe Rogan 54:01 So b- but what evidence does this guy have that they created that storm? 'Cause I thought they had been tracking that storm. I thought this was like a, a convergence.

Kurt Metzger 54:08 I, I'm not saying he said they created it, but, uh, uh-

Joe Rogan 54:11 I thought it was a... But hold on. I thought it was a convergence of two storms-

Kurt Metzger 54:14 Uh.

Joe Rogan 54:14 ... that was very rare, and it caused this flash flood.

Kurt Metzger 54:17 Uh, I don't remember his details. I just know I, I...... I feel at this point, especially after that Epstein shit, that they, they should have to prove they're not guilty.

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Kurt Metzger 55:47 Right.

Joe Rogan 55:47 ... actual real hurricanes.

Kurt Metzger 55:48 But the climate change shit is not real.

Joe Rogan 55:50 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 55:50 That's been a lie the whole time.

Joe Rogan 55:51 A study published in World Weather Attribu- uh, Attribution Group found the global warming caused by fossil fuel emissions most likely-

Kurt Metzger 55:59 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 55:59 ... exacerbated the intent- intense rains that lashed the UAE and Oman last year. But this isn't last year. So it's last-

Speaker 56:08 No, this is from, this is from the recent thing you just asked about, two weeks ago.

Joe Rogan 56:11 Oh, okay. So two weeks ago there was a flood, right?

Speaker 56:14 Yeah, it wasn't as bad as the one before, but there was still heavy rain.

Joe Rogan 56:16 Okay.

Kurt Metzger 56:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:17 So this was two weeks ago? The, the two weeks ago one?

Speaker 56:19 Yes.

Joe Rogan 56:19 That's still fucking bad.

Kurt Metzger 56:20 Bill Gates has already walked away from climate change. You saw that, right?

Joe Rogan 56:22 I did.

Kurt Metzger 56:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:23 Hilarious.

Kurt Metzger 56:24 So they've been lying to you for how long about that bullshit?

Joe Rogan 56:27 Okay, here it is, the downpour worsened by a lack of storm drains hobbled Dubai Airport, the world's busiest hub for international passengers. So they th- they're saying it's climate change that's causing it to rain more?

Kurt Metzger 56:38 There's my proof that it's not that.

Joe Rogan 56:40 But, but here's the... Yeah, here's the thing. They absolutely do cloud seed.

Kurt Metzger 56:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:45 So why don't you search that? Put that into Perplexity.

Kurt Metzger 56:50 Geoengineering is the term you want to find.

Joe Rogan 56:51 Yeah, put into, put into Perplexity, does United Abo- Arab Emirates, uh, cloud seed to make artificial rain? Or when it... It's not artificial, it's real rain. It's... Just they force rain? What's the word? Whatever. Search that. You'll find it, Jimmy. Um, they absolutely do do that.

Kurt Metzger 57:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:14 Cloud seeding is widely used in the UAE to enhance natural rainfall. But it only works when suitable clouds already exist, and typically increases rain by perhaps 10% to 30%, not by creating storms from nothing. The UAE runs one of the world's most active research-driven rain enhancement programs using aircraft ground generators and experimental methods like drones and electric charging to boost water security. So they're just doing it a bunch of different ways over there.

Kurt Metzger 57:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:43 So the, the... Blaming it on climate change when they are 100%-

Kurt Metzger 57:48 They give away. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:49 ... making it rain there all the time is bananas.

Kurt Metzger 57:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:52 It's bananas. Like you don't even know what the fucking weather would be like if they didn't do it, if they're doing it all the time. If they're doing it all the time, you literally don't have a control group.

Kurt Metzger 58:02 Do you remember chem trails? The thing that was us stupid people thought was a real thing but it was a conspiracy?

Joe Rogan 58:07 Right.

Kurt Metzger 58:08 Well, turns out that that was real and it's called geoengineering. They did the thing they always do and changed the name of the thing to not admit it.

Joe Rogan 58:14 That's true, but a lot of the trails that you see in the sky that look like artificial clouds are just created because of condensation in the atmosphere, the moisture in the atmosphere-

Kurt Metzger 58:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 58:25 ... hitting the hot jet engine-

Kurt Metzger 58:26 Sure.

Joe Rogan 58:27 ... in incredibly cold climate.

Kurt Metzger 58:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:28 It literally creates clouds.

Kurt Metzger 58:30 But it has, it should be all of them, there shouldn't even be 20% of the time you're spraying shit. We already know they're spraying shit on people.

Joe Rogan 58:35 Well, I don't, I don't think it's that many. I think... But it, they definitely do spray shit.

Kurt Metzger 58:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:39 That's the problem. The problem is when everybody thinks that every fucking Southwest Airline is, is spraying things to keep everybody docile. What you're mis- that's, that, the problem is that's easily disprovable. And what you do is you open the door for, uh, that allows them to do the real shit. So what you got to recognize is-

Kurt Metzger 58:56 How do you open the door with that?

Joe Rogan 58:57 ... what a regular plane-

Kurt Metzger 58:58 Wait, how do you-

Joe Rogan 58:58 It can-

Kurt Metzger 58:58 ... open the door?

Joe Rogan 58:59 Because if you think that every fucking American Airlines flight overhead that's making artificial clouds is doing it because they're spraying things on you, you, you, y- that's easily disproven. And then that-

Kurt Metzger 59:09 Well, I don't think everyone-

Joe Rogan 59:10 But hold on, but hold on.

Kurt Metzger 59:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:11 That makes all the other stuff seem silly too.

Kurt Metzger 59:14 Right.

Joe Rogan 59:15 Because I think they probably are spraying some things with some planes.

Kurt Metzger 59:19 Well-

Joe Rogan 59:19 And there's, there's real data that shows that they've tried that and practiced that.

Kurt Metzger 59:23 Yeah. They, I mean, they, they, uh, here's my favorite one that I told you. The stratospheric atmosphere, what is it? It's called Satan. And England, they're gonna-

Joe Rogan 59:30 Yeah, that one. Search that one.

Kurt Metzger 59:31 They're gonna... But geoengineering England-

Joe Rogan 59:33 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 59:33 ... because, you know, to fight climate change, we're gonna bl- (laughs) we're gonna dim-

Joe Rogan 59:36 We're gonna call it, we're gonna call it Satan. We're gonna dim the atmosphere-

Kurt Metzger 59:39 You know how too much sunlight-

Joe Rogan 59:39 ... and call it Satan.

Kurt Metzger 59:40 ... gets to England?

Joe Rogan 59:40 Yeah, it's really bad over there.

Kurt Metzger 59:41 That's where we're getting all that climate change from. England's too sunny.

Joe Rogan 59:44 Lot of burns. Lot of burns.

Kurt Metzger 59:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:45 Causes fires.

Kurt Metzger 59:47 These s- these boys, swamp people are gonna be fucking-

Joe Rogan 59:50 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 59:50 And then, and then they call it Satan. Are you just like-

Speaker 59:54 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 59:54 What a fuck you?

Joe Rogan 59:54 Well, they're gonna make Mordor. It's gonna literally look like Mordor.

Kurt Metzger 59:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:57 It's gonna be black skies and l- it's go- where does Sauron live? Where does he live?

Kurt Metzger 1:00:01 It's gonna be like Highlander II, where we learn not to do this.

Joe Rogan 1:00:03 Where does Sauron live?

Kurt Metzger 1:00:05 Oh. Mordor.

Joe Rogan 1:00:06 Yeah, Mordor.... (laughs) SATAN is the name of the tiny UK balloon experiment that released very small amount of sulfur dioxide. Literally, Satan smells like sulfur. Sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere over England as a proof of, proof of concept for solo geoengineering. Not a large scale ongoing weather modification program. It has nonetheless become a focus of online conspiracy claims-

Kurt Metzger 1:00:29 Oh, I wonder how.

Joe Rogan 1:00:29 ... about UK geoengineering and weather control. How funny is that? It's become a focus of online conspiracy claims.

Kurt Metzger 1:00:38 Oh, people don't trust Satan.

Joe Rogan 1:00:38 About UK geoengineering.

Kurt Metzger 1:00:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:40 So them actually doing geoengineering has become a focus of online conspiracy claims-

Kurt Metzger 1:00:47 Why would it? Why, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:47 ... about geoengineering.

Kurt Metzger 1:00:48 What a strange thing to put a balloon called Satan that sprays sulfur on-

Joe Rogan 1:00:52 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:00:52 Is everybody ... Like, I love how they gaslight you in these fucking things.

Joe Rogan 1:00:56 Oh.

Kurt Metzger 1:00:57 It's not a big deal. Nicki Minaj just has a great sense of showmanship.

Joe Rogan 1:01:02 SATAN was not a part of a major UK development, uh, program. It was led by a private researcher, and later UK funding announcements for solo geoengineering research focused on so- other small scale outdoor trials. Example, sea ice thickening, cloud brightening, with formal oversight.

Kurt Metzger 1:01:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:22 So, so what ... So they're doing sea ice thickening? (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:01:25 Okay, so let me translate. Uh, the stuff has already been developed militarily-

Joe Rogan 1:01:29 These motherfuckers are trying-

Kurt Metzger 1:01:31 ... if, uh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 ... to make an ice age. They're doing sea ice thickening.

Kurt Metzger 1:01:34 Well, the ice is coming back. You know the ice is coming back.

Joe Rogan 1:01:36 I know.

Kurt Metzger 1:01:36 It's ... Yeah, that's weird. I was told the earth was gonna be ... Oh, the c- the coral reefs came back.

Joe Rogan 1:01:40 The where?

Kurt Metzger 1:01:40 There's more rainforest than there's ever been. Did you know that?

Joe Rogan 1:01:43 We're in this Precession of the Equinoxes thing, right?

Kurt Metzger 1:01:46 What's that?

Joe Rogan 1:01:46 What is the Precession of the Equinoxes? It's like every 20 something thousand years. The earth doesn't just spin, right?

Kurt Metzger 1:01:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 It spins with a wobble.

Kurt Metzger 1:01:55 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:55 And that wobble is called the Precession of the Equinoxes. That's how they ... When they look at some of the ancient sites in, you know, like, Egypt and different places where the sun at the summer solstice would have come through this, and they use that to determine around the time period when it was built. It was a, it's a theory at least.

Kurt Metzger 1:02:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:12 Because they know that the s- the sky moves and that they had tracked this. The ancients had tracked this, the Precession of the Equinoxes-

Kurt Metzger 1:02:18 Does this have to do with, um-

Joe Rogan 1:02:19 ... the wobble of space. But it, this is the thing.

Kurt Metzger 1:02:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:21 It means, uh, uh, during the wobble is when the earth gets colder and warmer.

Kurt Metzger 1:02:25 Right, right, right.

Joe Rogan 1:02:25 And colder and warmer, depending on where you are in the wobble cycle. So the, the equator kinda stays the same, which is why there's all these ancient sites-

Kurt Metzger 1:02:34 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:34 ... on the equator. The Mayans and the Aztecs and all these incredible civilizations, they existed in a place where it didn't fuck it up too much.

Kurt Metzger 1:02:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:41 Whereas everything else, it's like ice age, then it gets hot, ice age, then it gets hot.

Kurt Metzger 1:02:44 I thought we were in technically an ice age for the last however long, because there normally historically weren't ice caps. So we're still technically in an ice age, as far as I know. If you look it up, that's what they'll tell you.

Joe Rogan 1:02:56 I think that's true. I think that's true. I think it, it has gotten warmer and it has gotten colder, but I think technically we're in an ice age.

Kurt Metzger 1:03:04 I, I'm still a little bitter about it because I used to get... I could think of, like, I told you three or four things off the top of my head where I went to bed like, "Oh, no."

Joe Rogan 1:03:11 These fucking eggheads that are talking about spraying things in the sky freaks me out though, because the scariest thing that could ever happen to us is an ice age, 'cause you can't go anywhere warm.

Kurt Metzger 1:03:21 Oh, no.

Joe Rogan 1:03:21 See if it's, if it's, uh, if it gets hot out, you move to the north. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:03:25 Oh, there's- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:25 Like, that's what people have done from the fucking beginning of time.

Kurt Metzger 1:03:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:29 And we're like, "We're here. We're staying here forever." No, if the ocean rises, you have to leave.

Kurt Metzger 1:03:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:34 And if people didn't ever exist, the oceans moved back and forth fucking thousands of miles. It's gonna move. You're gonna have earthquakes. You're gonna have things change, shift.

Kurt Metzger 1:03:43 You know how I plot it by? By if Obama builds oceanfront property or not. That's-

Joe Rogan 1:03:47 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:03:47 That's my-

Joe Rogan 1:03:48 That's good.

Kurt Metzger 1:03:48 ... guiding s- all of 'em.

Joe Rogan 1:03:48 Martha's Vineyard, they all buy oceanfront properties.

Kurt Metzger 1:03:50 So that ... Yeah, and the insurance never changed on it, so it, it's been bullshit the whole time. There's still people that are like, "No, you do," and they've invested everything in it.

Joe Rogan 1:03:57 Oh, they've invested everything. They also have cats and they live alone.

Kurt Metzger 1:04:00 I mean, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:04:01 There's a lot of that. A lot of, a lot of people like taking care of the earth like it's their kids 'cause they don't have any kids.

Kurt Metzger 1:04:06 Okay, can I tell you a crackpot theory I have?

Joe Rogan 1:04:07 Yes.

Kurt Metzger 1:04:07 And I know it's hard to believe as a respected dolphin scientist. Um, (laughs) I think that-

Joe Rogan 1:04:12 It was with a glove.

Kurt Metzger 1:04:13 Oh, he had one ... It looks like in the video of John C. Lilly-

Joe Rogan 1:04:17 He had one skeleton glove?

Kurt Metzger 1:04:18 ... he had one, yeah, like this.

Joe Rogan 1:04:20 Okay.

Kurt Metzger 1:04:21 Uh, yeah. I don't know. The, the, the goon tank told him to do it and he did it. The guy is a fucking nu- ... The guy was involved in bad shit. He wasn't good. Um, uh, uh, uh, Project Blue Beam you always hear about with the fake alien invasion they were planning on in, in, uh, in the '70s, you know.

Joe Rogan 1:04:36 Right. Right, right, right.

Kurt Metzger 1:04:37 Which, by the way, was not supposed to be a fake alien invasion. It was supposed to be a fake religious event that could be an alien invasion, but it wasn't necessarily that.

Joe Rogan 1:04:45 Oh, okay.

Kurt Metzger 1:04:46 Um, and, you know, even if they did or didn't do it, they, th- there's another project to get ... I think that this whole bullshit of climate change and the thing of like maybe you're the alien and you don't belong here on the earth, right?

Joe Rogan 1:04:59 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:05:00 I think that's a smarter play to do is, than Blue Beam, is to get this Gaia cult started where the earth's more important than you, the human living here, and you're probably not even from ... You probably came from another planet here from some kind of panspermia. And, uh, and then, and then when you hear any of these stupid alien stories, this is how I know they're a fake one from some dark entity, is they always tell you about how humans are so warlike. "If humans don't change their ways..." You know, assholes, nobody wants to go to war. 70% of people didn't wanna even pull the trigger, that's why we have kindergarten. What are you f- ... Why aren't you going to our leaders and thumbing their assholes and telling them this shit? Why do you do it to some farmer? That's, that's the suspicion. Whenever I hear that fucking Gaia Earth shit-

Joe Rogan 1:05:41 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:05:42 ... I think that's what, what Blue Beam actually manifested as. Because it all come ... Like in the '90s, and they're all connected to Epstein, all the greats. All, uh, uh, what's his name? Leon Black, that fuck, you know who that is?

Joe Rogan 1:05:55 No.

Kurt Metzger 1:05:55 Oh, he's a Epstein pal. All these assholes. I mean, uh, you, you, you could find this shit pretty easy. But they all, uh, that's where this came from, where it's like it's, uh, you're, you're a guest on this planet. And then they go, "Oh, humans are destroying everything." Like, we're not in charge of that motherfu- I'm not putting Satan up in the sky to spray sulfur dioxide.I'm not starting wars for no fucking reason. Everybody voted for Trump to not have a war in Venezuela, I know that.

Joe Rogan 1:06:22 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:06:22 Nobody voted, so they're like, "We gotta..." No fentanyl co- that's a lie. I mean, I don't know what idiot thinks fentanyl is coming from Venezuela, but only liars and morons think that. And if it- if I'm wrong, can we see the evidence? We saw the video of you murdering those people. I just gotta take your word for it? That oily haired... Fuck Pete Hegseth with his weirdo Catholic N- Templar Knight tattoos.

Joe Rogan 1:06:44 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:06:45 You got, he's got fucking Dan Brown cuckoo tattoos. They're not Nazi. They're fucking Knights of fucking Saint-

Joe Rogan 1:06:53 Well-

Kurt Metzger 1:06:53 ... Saint Buttfuck, whatever the fuck he's in.

Joe Rogan 1:06:54 ... I saw that same symbol in a Catholic church-

Kurt Metzger 1:06:57 Yeah. They're old-

Joe Rogan 1:06:58 ... in DC.

Kurt Metzger 1:06:58 ... Crusader shit. And just so you know, Templars were not good guys. They were real fucked. They were, in fact, it's a real ditty party.

Joe Rogan 1:07:04 We're, we're going on a wra- a long circuitous route. What, what, what did you say initially before that? Uh-

Kurt Metzger 1:07:09 Venezuela. That why everybody's going to war-

Joe Rogan 1:07:11 Okay. So, here's the thing. One, one of the boats, uh-

Kurt Metzger 1:07:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:14 ... the remains of the boat just showed up.

Kurt Metzger 1:07:16 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:07:16 They just found it and it has marijuana in it.

Kurt Metzger 1:07:19 Oh, well that, you know what? I stand corrected then. Sorry, Joe.

Joe Rogan 1:07:21 But no, I mean, say, I'm saying t- to prove your point.

Kurt Metzger 1:07:24 They almost had marijuana in China (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 1:07:25 No, they're say, it had, I'm, I think that's true. See if that's-

Kurt Metzger 1:07:28 Yo-

Joe Rogan 1:07:28 ... that was something that was in the news today.

Kurt Metzger 1:07:30 They're calling it a war crime, you know, we didn't, nobody declared war, so it's just a crime to do that. And if you had evidence, remember the ba-, uh ...

Joe Rogan 1:07:36 What I'm getting to-

Kurt Metzger 1:07:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:37 ... is it would be nice-

Kurt Metzger 1:07:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:39 ... if they had one that showed that it's even cocaine. 'Cause if they have one and the only one they have is-

Kurt Metzger 1:07:44 I thought it was fent-

Joe Rogan 1:07:44 ... marijuana. Grim evidence of Trump's airstrike washes ashore on a Colombian peninsula, uh, first came the scorched boat, then the mangled bodies, then the packets with traces of marijuana. Now the fishermen fear the ocean that feeds them.

Kurt Metzger 1:07:57 Yeah, no shit. So that's another bullshit.

Joe Rogan 1:08:00 Okay, but this is, um, so this was just, they were just bringing in marijuana. So they were trying to smuggle in marijuana.

Kurt Metzger 1:08:08 To Colombia?

Joe Rogan 1:08:10 No, wherever they were going. I don't know-

Kurt Metzger 1:08:12 Ne-

Joe Rogan 1:08:12 ... where they were going.

Kurt Metzger 1:08:12 Venezuela is not where we're getting our drugs from, just so everybody knows that.

Joe Rogan 1:08:15 But was this in Colombia or was this in Venezuela?

Kurt Metzger 1:08:17 Yeah, they found it in Colombia. It washed up in Colombia.

Joe Rogan 1:08:20 Right, but the boat was in Venezuela. Where was the boat headed to? The Gulf of Venezuela-

Kurt Metzger 1:08:26 I thought it was-

Joe Rogan 1:08:26 ... which is right next to Colombia.

Kurt Metzger 1:08:27 ... yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:27 So where are these boats supposedly going with this cocaine that we're blowing them up?

Kurt Metzger 1:08:33 Okay, they said fentanyl. Now they're saying cocaine.

Joe Rogan 1:08:35 Whatever the-

Kurt Metzger 1:08:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:36 ... um, okay, say fentanyl. Where are the boats going we're, we're blowing them up?

Kurt Metzger 1:08:39 Uh, that's above, uh, that's top secret, Joe. That's, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:08:42 But you know what I'm saying? Like, if they're s- if they're supposed to be smuggling these drugs, where are they supposed to be smuggling them to?

Kurt Metzger 1:08:49 Uh, not-

Joe Rogan 1:08:49 Campaign-

Kurt Metzger 1:08:50 ... yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:50 ... against boats that the Trump administration claims are smuggling drugs has shifted largely to the Pacific since November, the November 6th strike on the, how do you say that?

Kurt Metzger 1:09:00 Where?

Joe Rogan 1:09:00 Gwajira, Gwajira Peninsula.

Kurt Metzger 1:09:02 Gwai sh- yeah, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:09:04 Gwajira, took place during, uh, an earlier phase when the campaign seemed to be aimed at Venezuelan rather than Colombian vessels.

Kurt Metzger 1:09:10 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 1:09:11 So this one was in Colombia at a Colombian vessel. So, but it turned out that it was marijuana, at least one of the packets that they found was marijuana, right?

Kurt Metzger 1:09:23 Mm-hmm. Oh, that's right. They want Nicolas... So Trump said, "You have to leave office or else," and then they started doing this. That's what's going on.

Joe Rogan 1:09:30 Okay. So do you think that ... Well, listen, most corrupt organizations are gonna take part in whatever money gets float around. D- I mean, it's not like these drug dealers are operating with complete immunity, right? I would imagine if you're in a country like Venezuela, i- if it is a corrupt country, you've, you're paying people off. People-

Kurt Metzger 1:09:53 Hey, maybe it's super corrupt.

Joe Rogan 1:09:53 ... are getting a percentage of the action.

Kurt Metzger 1:09:55 Why the fuck do I care about anything in Venezuela? Oh, that's right, they have oil. Oh, that's right-

Joe Rogan 1:09:58 Yeah. That's right.

Kurt Metzger 1:09:58 ... oil. Oh, that's w- w- where... Oh, we, by the way-

Joe Rogan 1:10:01 There you go.

Kurt Metzger 1:10:01 ... stole oil tankers.

Joe Rogan 1:10:03 There you go.

Kurt Metzger 1:10:03 Uh, also, and this is where I can't support Maduro, and I'm sorry Maduro, this is where you fucked up. He doesn't fucking support Israel, this son of a bitch. So-

Joe Rogan 1:10:13 Did he say that publicly?

Kurt Metzger 1:10:14 That's... Oh, yes. And he said the thing that Charlie said before he died (laughs) about, about ethnic cleansing. Anyway, the, the... Originally, remember Juan Guaidó, who was, when, uh, Trump did his State of the Union and Nancy Pelosi tore his speech in half?

Joe Rogan 1:10:28 Yes.

Kurt Metzger 1:10:29 Okay. Here's what she didn't... So that was, oh, what a statement. But when it came to Trump going, "And now the rightful ruler of Venezuela, Juan Guaidó." And this guy, Juan Guaidó, who is, by the way, is not the rightful ruler of Venezuela, uh, all Democrats and Republicans all unified on how great Juan Guaidó is. Okay, so-

Joe Rogan 1:10:48 Oh, it's-

Kurt Metzger 1:10:49 ... nothing comes of him.

Joe Rogan 1:10:50 It's the oil deal.

Kurt Metzger 1:10:51 Yeah, then, then about a, I don't wanna say a, a year later or so, Air Maté's hosting for Jimmy, and we play a clip of Juan Guaidó in Venezuela. He moved back to Venezuela, and Venezuela didn't put him in jail or nothing. And you see people in a restaurant throwing shit at him 'cause they hate his fucking guts. But he's free to live there and not in prison 'cause they're smart and know, like, not to do nothing with it. So now there's a new person, some chick-

Joe Rogan 1:11:15 Wait a minute, what, what was he accused of?

Kurt Metzger 1:11:16 Well, he's, he claimed he was the real president and he was working with America to overthrow the guy they elected, which was-

Joe Rogan 1:11:21 Oh, okay.

Kurt Metzger 1:11:21 ... you know, the other guy-

Joe Rogan 1:11:22 He claimed he was the real president?

Kurt Metzger 1:11:23 So Trump did and-

Joe Rogan 1:11:24 So they're claiming it was a-

Kurt Metzger 1:11:25 ... Pelosi agreed.

Joe Rogan 1:11:26 ... a rigged election. That's what they're claiming?

Kurt Metzger 1:11:27 They're, they've been claiming Venezuela has fake elections, but I don't think they do. I think you're, first of all, driving them closer to Maduro if you don't like him. They don't like America and I don't know if you know, uh, I know people think we gave a lot of help though around the world. But no, it turns out, no, we fucked everybody's country up and they don't like us for a very good reason. So when you tell somebody their president's an authoritarian, get your booster.

Joe Rogan 1:11:53 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:11:54 Fucking fuck you, authoritarian. Those people get mad and, uh, and when you meet people from Venezuela, which I have for years, they would go, "Fuck Chá- " No, Chavez didn't take over in a coup. He's one of those guys I think attempted a coup and then went to jail and then got elected. I, I believe that's the story. But he got elected. He was gonna nationalize... You know, the first thing a terrible dictator does is nationalize their oil and-

Joe Rogan 1:12:18 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:12:18 ... not let our co- Like-... if you recall Iran's crime-

Joe Rogan 1:12:22 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:12:22 ... because they had an elected... They had a democracy.

Joe Rogan 1:12:24 Yup.

Kurt Metzger 1:12:24 The guy said, "We're gonna keep our fucking oil and not give it to England," and so got rid of him, put the shah-

Joe Rogan 1:12:29 Exactly.

Kurt Metzger 1:12:30 You know who installed the Ayatollah? That was the Jimmy Carter years. That was the trilaterals. So, Rockefeller. W- the West installed the fucking Ayatollah as well. Okay? That's a, by the way, public record. You can go look that up.

Joe Rogan 1:12:43 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:12:43 So, now I'm supposed to be mad at these regimes that my own dipshit country, with their dipshit post-World War II cunt allies, put these people here. I still want somebody to explain to me how the fuck the leader of ISIS can walk in the White House and shake Trump's hand, and there's still imbeciles, and you know them, there's still Republican imbeciles who are gonna say, "ISIS is killing Christians in Nigeria. What about that?" Well, can we ask our friend, the head of ISIS-

Joe Rogan 1:13:09 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:13:09 ... to, ask them to stop, you fucking jerk-off? When I tweet this, fuck... You know, and they're all sock puppets and whatever. They go, "Well, he won a war. That's how it works." Always have some, you know, Israeli flag explaining to me that's how winning a war w-... The guy from ISIS? Aren't they anti-Semitic, I thought, ISIS? Oh, well, they never attack Israel. Oh, they did once and then apologized. Did you know that?

Joe Rogan 1:13:32 No. When?

Kurt Metzger 1:13:34 During the Syria conflict. Oh, and also, uh, the IDF would patch up ISIS soldiers in Syria. Did you know that?

Joe Rogan 1:13:39 No.

Kurt Metzger 1:13:39 I found that out j- on Jimmy's show. I- it's amazing the shit you find out, and then you realize no one knows a goddamn thing about anything. And then you... How easy it is... Dude, when you see the head of... A guy who... John Kiriakou also told me very high chance, uh, was there in the Daniel Pearl beheading video. The-

Joe Rogan 1:13:58 Really?

Kurt Metzger 1:13:59 He's a founding member. And fucking, uh, if you watch the video of Petraeus sucking his dick on stage, Petraeus goes, "Now, full disclosure, we were opposite sides during the surge." You know, the insurgent ISIS period?

Joe Rogan 1:14:11 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:14:12 That's who that guy is. And they're talking like they're old friends.

Joe Rogan 1:14:15 Whoa.

Kurt Metzger 1:14:16 Y- nobody knows that? Yeah, his name has been changed, just like, uh, BB-fucking-Bilbo-not-a-Jew-Hoo.

Joe Rogan 1:14:21 Look at him now.

Kurt Metzger 1:14:22 He changed his name. He doesn't dress like this. He wears a suit.

Joe Rogan 1:14:26 That's crazy.

Kurt Metzger 1:14:27 Yo, shut up about ISIS. If Trump's shaking his... Is everybody, like-

Joe Rogan 1:14:30 (laughing) Hold on. Go back to Trump's quote about him. Go back. Trump said-

Kurt Metzger 1:14:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:14:34 ... he had a rough past, but added, "We've all had a rough past." (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:14:39 Yeah, ain't that the truth, brother? Ain't that the truth.

Joe Rogan 1:14:43 Well, just imagine if that guy was really in the Daniel Pearl beheading video.

Kurt Metzger 1:14:48 I'm pretty sure he was.

Joe Rogan 1:14:50 And he had a rough past.

Kurt Metzger 1:14:51 Hey. Oh, that's right. We made-

Joe Rogan 1:14:53 But we've-

Kurt Metzger 1:14:53 ... all these terrorist groups.

Joe Rogan 1:14:54 We've all had a rough past.

Kurt Metzger 1:14:55 Well, some of us were-

Joe Rogan 1:14:57 Correct.

Kurt Metzger 1:14:57 ... programmed.

Joe Rogan 1:14:58 Doesn't, um, Patricia Christ or whatever religion you, uh-

Kurt Metzger 1:15:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:15:02 ... are a part of, doesn't it, uh-

Kurt Metzger 1:15:03 I'm in a splinter group.

Joe Rogan 1:15:04 ... allow for forgiveness?

Kurt Metzger 1:15:05 Penelope Christ does-

Joe Rogan 1:15:06 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:15:06 ... but I've... Since we've done this show, I- I'm with the, uh, Patricia Christs.

Joe Rogan 1:15:10 Patricia Christs (laughs) .

Kurt Metzger 1:15:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:15:11 So, doesn't-

Kurt Metzger 1:15:11 Dan Soder's mom started a, uh, cult-

Joe Rogan 1:15:12 Don't they, um, allow for forgiveness? We've all had a rough past.

Kurt Metzger 1:15:17 Well-

Joe Rogan 1:15:17 A couple beheadings?

Kurt Metzger 1:15:17 ... and it's w- here's why I forgive ISIS, 'cause I don't approve of their anti-Semitic rhe- uh, rhetoric. And you know that. And m- neither does my wife, sh- Shoshana Ruff-in, but-

Joe Rogan 1:15:24 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:15:26 ... uh, credit where credit is due, they have never attacked Israel. Al-Qaeda and ISIS, the two most anti-Semitic, mad about Israel cunt terror groups. You'd think they would 'cause it's right there before you come here, but no, they just attack us, which-

Joe Rogan 1:15:39 Hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:15:39 ... when you think about it, makes no fucking sense as a plan, does it?

Joe Rogan 1:15:42 Not right now. I'll have to think about it later.

Kurt Metzger 1:15:45 It never did.

Joe Rogan 1:15:46 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:15:47 If you had told me, dude, after 9/11, and people did, people were like, "Why are we going to Iraq? That doesn't really make any fucking sense at all," you know what I said? "Shut up." (laughs) That's all I said. You know? Like, uh, I... Uh, even though that's a great point. Why did we go there?

Joe Rogan 1:16:02 Yeah, no reason. I used to have a bit about it.

Kurt Metzger 1:16:04 Well, th-

Joe Rogan 1:16:04 About-

Kurt Metzger 1:16:05 ... well, there is a reason.

Joe Rogan 1:16:05 ... you don't know how dumb people are until you have a dumb president.

Kurt Metzger 1:16:09 Oh, well, I think he was a Manchurian Candidate. And w-... The reason we went there is a thing called the Greater Israel Project. So, when you see Wesley Clark talking about the map-

Joe Rogan 1:16:18 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:16:18 Remember they said no war for oil? We didn't-

Joe Rogan 1:16:20 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:16:20 ... get no oil out of that. In fact, most oil companies said, "Don't do it." Except Halliburton, the oil company that got favoritism.

Joe Rogan 1:16:26 Did you ever see Coleman Hughes' take on that? It's very interesting.

Kurt Metzger 1:16:29 I don't trust that motherfucker no more.

Joe Rogan 1:16:30 Coleman Hughes said, "But no one saw the report." He was just told what the contents of the report are.

Kurt Metzger 1:16:37 Who?

Joe Rogan 1:16:38 Wesley, uh, Wesley Clark. He never said, "I saw the report."

Kurt Metzger 1:16:43 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 1:16:43 He never said, "I read the report."

Kurt Metzger 1:16:44 That's... What a great... Wow, Coleman. I like when Coleman criticizes you because-

Joe Rogan 1:16:48 Isn't that true?

Kurt Metzger 1:16:49 ... who gives a fucking shit? This is what happened. You clearly were hitting everybody on BB's bucket list, number one. Number two, I know Coleman got coached before he came on here. Guy who I don't have nothing against, but he came on here to refute basic facts that... I wanna make it clear, I'm not debating nobody. I want you to convince me that I didn't see what I already saw. I don't care about a debate. I saw the crimes already 'cause I'm on a news show. It's very traumatic. And I watch morons who aren't gonna look, and I could give them the video. Not you, but, but, uh, people I... "Hey, look at the video." "I don't wanna see it."

Joe Rogan 1:17:22 You're talking about Gaza?

Kurt Metzger 1:17:23 All... Dude, it could be anything. It could be fucking anything. Everybody-

Joe Rogan 1:17:27 Right, but specifically-

Kurt Metzger 1:17:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:17:28 ... with Coleman, what are you talking about?

Kurt Metzger 1:17:29 Oh, Gaza, but also he did this wormy shit with ivermectin with you. He goes, "Well, if big pharma... Big pharma's made a lot of life... Big pharma made ivermectin, so they're not bad." What the fuck are you talking about, Coleman? Why would you say that? Are you being paid to s-... I can't fathom an argument that fucking stupid from a guy that smart unless he's getting paid. I just can't fathom it. W- y- "Don't attack big pharma." Who the fuck do you work for, asshole? Are you hitting them bounties that the other idiots are hitting? It's real fucked up. I- I don't understand why people won't just tell the truth all the time. It, it, it could end this whole bullshit if everybody stopped being a mercenary for two seconds, but they're not gonna.

Joe Rogan 1:18:08 Well, there's too many data points when it comes to ivermectin. There's too many things that you could point to that say this is one of the worst drugs ever to demonize. It was such a stupid move.

Kurt Metzger 1:18:18 The Nobel pr-... Uh, dude, they s- they acted like... To this day, there's people, and I, like, love to bring up that for some reason, you, not a doctor-... all the other morons that said a thing were all wrong, including the people that should know better, like experts. And you were right and not them. And all these dumb fuck liberals wanna move on from that, don't they? "Well, arguably, you could say it saved li-" No, it didn't save any fucking lives.

Joe Rogan 1:18:42 They still wanna say it saved millions of lives. There's, there's still, without a doubt, when you were talking about these people that get bounties, without a doubt, there's doctors that get bounties. Without a doubt.

Kurt Metzger 1:18:51 Yeah, 750 a head to put poison in your fucking kids, we, we covered on Jimmy's show. In fact-

Joe Rogan 1:18:55 Mary Tally Bowden, she has-

Kurt Metzger 1:18:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:18:57 ... a small practice, small practice in Texas. She said she would've got $1.5 million if she had vaccinated everybody.

Kurt Metzger 1:19:05 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:19:05 $1.5 million.

Kurt Metzger 1:19:07 Well, those loans are, are very expensive to be a doctor.

Joe Rogan 1:19:09 You know how crazy that is?

Kurt Metzger 1:19:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:19:11 That's, that's a small practice.

Kurt Metzger 1:19:11 It's Mendelian shit.

Joe Rogan 1:19:12 A small practice. How many small practices are there? How much money was being distributed?

Kurt Metzger 1:19:17 Yeah, so you think SNAP is a con? How about doctors to put a fucking bioweapon in your kids at 750 a head? Th- this, people don't understand the scope of the problem at all. They think they're gonna vote a party in that's gonna do so... Oh, you got attacked, we covered this, because you said, "Maybe time to stop thinking about left and right," which you are correct. And you can tell who's no fucking good, 'cause they immediately r- recoil at the idea that left and right are bullshit, which they are.

Joe Rogan 1:19:44 When did I get attacked?

Kurt Metzger 1:19:46 Uh, I don't know. I know you don't pay attention to that, good for you, but-

Joe Rogan 1:19:48 Thank you.

Kurt Metzger 1:19:48 ... it was a story we covered on Jimmy's show. I just wanna point out to fu-

Joe Rogan 1:19:51 Oh, it's so, so nice to not know when you're being attacked.

Kurt Metzger 1:19:54 Yeah, yeah, real... Dude.

Joe Rogan 1:19:55 Feels great.

Kurt Metzger 1:19:56 I, I, I...

Joe Rogan 1:19:56 Listen, we-

Kurt Metzger 1:19:57 Everybody's such an idiot with this shit, they got sucked in immediately, to even talk about the fucking Rogan Sphere. Yo, go get your booster and then talk about the Rogan Sphere, you fuck... Un-fucking-real.

Joe Rogan 1:20:08 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:20:09 There's people wearing masks still. They still...

Joe Rogan 1:20:10 Oh, yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:20:11 Friends of mine that wear... Dude.

Joe Rogan 1:20:12 Oh, yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:20:13 If you, if you transition to a woman, that's less of an uncomfortable thing than if you were, uh, uh, gonna wear a mask forever.

Joe Rogan 1:20:19 I'll show you something, but I don't wanna shit on him, 'cause he's-

Kurt Metzger 1:20:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:20:21 ... fragile. We'll, we'll play it and won't, we won't say anything. What is going on with people that are still wearing masks? Like, there's something, like, deeply psychologically wrong with it, 'cause it doesn't work scientifically to prevent diseases.

Kurt Metzger 1:20:33 It never did.

Joe Rogan 1:20:34 But, but it's also a very weird thing that you're covering your face. In this world, we communicate-

Kurt Metzger 1:20:39 Well, maybe they don't wanna be scanned.

Joe Rogan 1:20:41 Yeah, that makes sense. But we're communicating with our faces.

Kurt Metzger 1:20:44 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:20:44 You, you, when you talk to someone, you look in their eyes.

Kurt Metzger 1:20:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:20:47 If someone's wearing sunglasses, it's weird, right? But if someone's wearing a mask, that's fucking weird too. I can't see your mouth, I can't see your nose.

Kurt Metzger 1:20:54 I'm half deaf, so I have to lip read half of what you're fucking saying. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:20:57 Oh, okay.

Kurt Metzger 1:20:57 That's what I learned during the pandemic is that I've definitely damaged my hearing with my headphones over the years. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:21:02 Have you really?

Kurt Metzger 1:21:03 For sure.

Joe Rogan 1:21:04 Do you crank music in them? Is that what it is?

Kurt Metzger 1:21:05 Oh, I was in New York for 20 years, dude. You gotta drown out the outside world-

Joe Rogan 1:21:09 Oh, yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:21:09 ... to get by, just to go on a subway.

Joe Rogan 1:21:12 Oh, yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:21:12 I jumped on the track... This is, like, very stupid, by the way, but I remember one time I jumped down on the tracks to recover an iPod mini. Not a iPhone, an iPod.

Joe Rogan 1:21:21 To recover one, you jumped down to get it?

Kurt Metzger 1:21:23 And then I had to push myself back up.

Joe Rogan 1:21:24 (gasps)

Kurt Metzger 1:21:24 It's a lot deeper than you think it is when you jump down there, and it was-

Joe Rogan 1:21:27 Oh, dude, what if you couldn't make it up?

Kurt Metzger 1:21:29 I made it up. But one, but I, I was like, "Oh, I didn't..." I was like, "Wow." But I needed that. I, I, I couldn't listen to subway noise. And there, there was this Sikh guy that looked at me and was like, like he couldn't believe I just risked my life and I got stuck for-

Joe Rogan 1:21:41 An AirPod, iPod, whatever the fuck it is.

Kurt Metzger 1:21:42 ... because New York makes you fucking cr- New York is a big, dirty prison that makes you crazy. You live on top... Now, here's something good about it. Every, like, class, especially if you do drugs in New York, you're gonna hang out with every level of society, where you wouldn't in more of a car, car place.

Joe Rogan 1:21:58 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:21:58 You know? Like LA.

Joe Rogan 1:21:59 Yeah, I agree with that.

Kurt Metzger 1:22:00 Um, so that-

Joe Rogan 1:22:02 It's more integrated.

Kurt Metzger 1:22:03 Yeah, it's a more of a Babylon kind of experience. But everybody lives on top of each other. You could, you pay way too much for everything, you know. Uh, it's, it's... That's why this, the thought of a 15-minute city, nobody was frightened by that in, like, New York, 'cause they're like, "That's what I live in. How it would be different than my life now."

Joe Rogan 1:22:20 Yeah, it's, uh, it's not healthy. It's not healthy to be stacked like that on top of each other.

Kurt Metzger 1:22:24 Well, my immune system... I'll tell you what's unhealthy, the not getting sun.

Joe Rogan 1:22:28 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:22:28 And I know friends had to get vitamin B and vitamin D and all that shit 'cause you don't get sun like that. And it turns out sun's not actually ba... For some reason, they don't want you having sun. They've been prescribing... You probably already talked about this.

Joe Rogan 1:22:40 Uh-huh.

Kurt Metzger 1:22:40 10 times less vitamin D than you should get, they've been recommending.

Joe Rogan 1:22:44 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:22:45 They've been recommending 10 times less than what you should have in vitamin D. Which, by the way, would fight off a lot of these things that you're supposed to get shots for.

Joe Rogan 1:22:51 Oh, a shit ton. And the best way to get vitamin D is from the sun.

Kurt Metzger 1:22:56 I miss... That's the thing I miss about LA is I was right by Runyon, and I would go hike that every day.

Joe Rogan 1:23:00 Then you'd feel better.

Kurt Metzger 1:23:01 A- and I had to have the sun, like, I had to feel that on me.

Joe Rogan 1:23:04 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:23:05 It, it really, like, you know, uh... No, there's something about it that you need that. That's why it's-

Joe Rogan 1:23:10 Yeah, it's a vitamin.

Kurt Metzger 1:23:10 ... crazy that someone's gonna try to block it out. A, a crazy person would do that.

Joe Rogan 1:23:13 It's not even just a vitamin, it's a hormone. Like, uh, vitamin D, uh, it does so much for, like, muscle development, brain function, the immune system.

Kurt Metzger 1:23:21 I bet all the food grows from it, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:23:23 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:23:24 How did I forget for 20 years that-

Joe Rogan 1:23:25 Sunlight.

Kurt Metzger 1:23:26 ... CO2 does indeed make trees, uh, plants grow?

Joe Rogan 1:23:29 Yeah, there's more greenery right now than there was 100 years ago.

Kurt Metzger 1:23:32 Well, but, but-

Joe Rogan 1:23:33 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:23:33 ... do you know? I, I'm not sure why I was like, "That's ridiculous." Is it 'cause an authority was like, "No, you can't go by that"?

Joe Rogan 1:23:39 Well, do you remember when Bill Gates was saying that it's ridiculous, the idea of growing more trees to, to gets, rid of some of the carbon, that that's ridiculous?

Kurt Metzger 1:23:46 Yeah, g- Dr Bill Gates for some reason, it's fine for him to throw out his expertise, ain't it?

Joe Rogan 1:23:50 He, he literally said, "Are, aren't we science people, or not?" He literally said that.

Kurt Metzger 1:23:55 What the fuck are you do... First of all-

Joe Rogan 1:23:56 See if you can find that.

Kurt Metzger 1:23:56 Yeah, no, I, I remember it.

Joe Rogan 1:23:58 Because it's such, it's such a crazy speech, because everybody knows that plants literally exist on that. Like, they exist on...

Kurt Metzger 1:24:04 But you'd be an idiot to say that. Back when they... And I remember someone saying it, like Sarah Pal... Somebody that was like, you know, you're supposed to hate the fake left and right, so maybe Sarah Palin said it, and then Bill Maher said that's stupid, you know? Some, some dynamic like that.

Joe Rogan 1:24:18 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:24:19 But no, it's not stupid. That's what they fuck... That's why we have more greenery now.

Joe Rogan 1:24:23 So really, plant food. (laughs) It's like... (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:24:26 So, we need... So, they-

Joe Rogan 1:24:27 Not only that, it gives you more oxygen.

Kurt Metzger 1:24:28 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:24:28 More plants, more oxygen. Like, what are we talking about?

Kurt Metzger 1:24:30 Oh, wait. That's right, I own all the seeds, and, oh, right, I bought the farms and I control the food growth.

Joe Rogan 1:24:35 He was also the one telling us that we're gonna have to stop eating meat, and they were all banking on that fucking plant meat that nobody wants to buy 'cause it's terrible for you.

Kurt Metzger 1:24:42 Well, you know the... Uh, this is my favorite thing that, about McDonald's all-beef patty, 'cause it's, it's an old joke of, like, why are you specifying-

Joe Rogan 1:24:48 Okay, hold on. Let's play this real quick. Go, go from the beginning?

Speaker 1:24:51 I don't plan trees.

Speaker 1:24:52 That's a 33 minute video.

Joe Rogan 1:24:52 Uh, I don't play that.

Kurt Metzger 1:24:53 Okay. I don't play that.

Speaker 1:24:53 There's a lot of people who are very enamored with trees. We've got trees on this stage.

Joe Rogan 1:24:57 (laughs) Fuck trees, dude.

Speaker 1:24:57 Some people would even say that if you just planted enough trees, it could take care of the climate issue altogether.

Joe Rogan 1:25:02 And that's complete nonsense.

Speaker 1:25:03 Okay. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:25:05 I mean, are we the science people or are we the idiots? Like, which one do we want to be? Uh... (laughs)

Speaker 1:25:12 I'm going to call-

Kurt Metzger 1:25:12 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:25:13 ... my friend Mark down here and ask him what he thinks.

Speaker 1:25:14 (laughing)

Speaker 1:25:16 Where is he? At the very moment that we're-

Joe Rogan 1:25:19 Okay, that's a little bit out of context 'cause what he's saying there is that planting trees is not gonna fix climate change. That's a little different.

Kurt Metzger 1:25:27 Right. He's now-

Joe Rogan 1:25:28 That's what he's saying there, but he was also talking about chopping down trees. He was... The, the, like, as part of one of the things that he was saying that was very controversial was he was talking about removing trees.

Kurt Metzger 1:25:38 Yeah, well, uh, the Climate Summit, you know, they're paving a whole part of the rainforest to make this special highway for the visitors to the Climate Summit. We... This is one of the funniest...

Joe Rogan 1:25:46 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:25:46 And meanwhile, "Oh, maybe they need a highway, though, in that part." No, it's only for the-

Joe Rogan 1:25:51 The Climate Summit, yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:25:52 That's it. Nobody else can use it ever again. (laughs) So, yeah, first of all-

Joe Rogan 1:25:56 It's insane.

Kurt Metzger 1:25:56 ... are we the science people? No, this is a country full of fucking morons and that is not... The science, you're not supposed to believe science. I don't know why people think that. You're supposed to, science is the opposite of belief. You're supposed, that's, like, supposed to be things you can test. So, you're not supposed to hide the test results from people or not do the tests, such as with the goddamn vaccine that they didn't... They tested it on you. Well, not you.

Joe Rogan 1:26:17 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:26:17 But they tested it on you, the jerk-off people. Remember?

Joe Rogan 1:26:20 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:26:20 Operation Warp Speed.

Joe Rogan 1:26:21 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:26:22 That Trump attacked Massie for not going along with.

Joe Rogan 1:26:25 (humming)

Kurt Metzger 1:26:26 And now, the last guy that's honest, he's attacking him, and I got friends who are like, "Yeah, Massie annoyed me." You know, "Why?" No specifics, just high school feelings.

Joe Rogan 1:26:34 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:26:36 "Oh, what, do you trust Candi-" Yo, if you think that the story of TPUSA hing- hinges on Candace Owens, it does not. I wanna make that clear to everybody. "Oh, if you don't like Candace," who gives a fucking shit about... It has nothing to do with whether that story has some problems with it.

Joe Rogan 1:26:52 Which story? The Charlie Kirk assassination story?

Kurt Metzger 1:26:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:26:54 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:26:55 Which it obviously does.

Joe Rogan 1:26:56 It, it obviously does.

Kurt Metzger 1:26:57 Um, people, a lot of people have been like, "Who even cares about Epstein anymore?"

Joe Rogan 1:27:02 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:27:03 A lot, a lot of people said-

Joe Rogan 1:27:03 Who's doing that? Who's saying that?

Kurt Metzger 1:27:05 I can think of three people off the top of my head.

Joe Rogan 1:27:07 Online or in real life?

Kurt Metzger 1:27:08 In person.

Joe Rogan 1:27:08 Really?

Kurt Metzger 1:27:10 Which, like, well... And I was like, "Well, you know, the people that were part of that are still in power, so that's why."

Joe Rogan 1:27:16 That to me, that's like saying the new season of Stranger Things is out and I don't wanna watch it. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:27:20 I don't wanna watch it.

Joe Rogan 1:27:21 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:27:22 Stranger Things, those actors? They aged weird.

Joe Rogan 1:27:25 Well, they separated the seasons by years. They, there was, like, big gaps in the seasons.

Kurt Metzger 1:27:30 Yo.

Joe Rogan 1:27:30 That show was really difficult to make, apparently.

Kurt Metzger 1:27:33 I mean, those kids grew into some bizarre-looking people.

Joe Rogan 1:27:36 But my, but my point is, like, everybody wants to know what the fuck is happening. You've been talking nonstop about this for three years. To say who cares about it anymore is crazy. (smacks lips) That's crazy talk.

Kurt Metzger 1:27:47 It's, like, uh, well, I think it's hand-me-down Sinclair Media talk 'cause, uh, 'cause it's always the same phrase, and I feel like-

Joe Rogan 1:27:54 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:27:54 ... it's a hypnotic phrase it's easy to put in somebody's head.

Joe Rogan 1:27:57 Did you see that thing that they did where they, uh, showed one of the photographs? It's Trump with all these women and he took, took a photo with them. But in the photograph, they blacked out the faces of the women to make it look like they, perhaps they were underage?

Kurt Metzger 1:28:08 Mm, oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:28:09 Like that they were victims.

Kurt Metzger 1:28:10 Well, l- l- let's, like, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:28:10 Instead of just being Trump with some women.

Kurt Metzger 1:28:13 Let's be clear. The, the idea that Democrats wanna get to the bottom of this is... Remember, if you brought up Epi- Epstein at all, you were a conspiracy theorist for the entire time before Trump got in again. Remember that?

Joe Rogan 1:28:24 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:28:24 Why would you... In fact, they said why would you bring it up? The reason any Democrat would possibly bring it up now is they know Trump cannot reveal it because, so they're just gonna use it to make hay for whatever. You know, I'm sure once, when AOC gets in, she'll get to the bottom of it.

Joe Rogan 1:28:40 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:28:40 (laughs) I'm sure when fucking... I'm, what a joke, dude. What a fucking joke.

Joe Rogan 1:28:44 Well, once we know that the Trump Administration isn't getting to the bottom with it, of it, no one is.

Kurt Metzger 1:28:49 Oh, you don't trust Kash no more? He looked so reliable on here.

Joe Rogan 1:28:53 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:28:53 Pow! He talks like a goddamn Zoomer.

Joe Rogan 1:28:58 Uh. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:28:58 Uh, p- y- uh, just so you know, no one thinks it's weird that guy lives with a dude? You know, his supposed honeypot girlfriend, they's, they're suing? By the way, she's sue- suing everybody that says she's a IDF honeypot or whatever the fuck.

Joe Rogan 1:29:09 Who's su- oh, she's suing people?

Kurt Metzger 1:29:10 His girlfriend, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:29:11 Who's she suing?

Kurt Metzger 1:29:11 That should, by the way, that should clear up those Jew rumors. Am I right? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:29:15 (laughs) .

Kurt Metzger 1:29:19 Uh. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:29:22 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:29:22 Well, you really put that one to bed, lady.

Joe Rogan 1:29:24 Ugh. Ugh.

Kurt Metzger 1:29:25 So, he lives with a man named Muldoon, a rich donor in Vegas. He got some FBI rule changed so, so he could live with the guy. That's why he has to fly out-

Joe Rogan 1:29:33 Uh-huh.

Kurt Metzger 1:29:33 ... on a private jet 'cause he don't live with his hot girlfriend at all. And if you watch him on, uh, Steve Miller's wife's podcast, uh, you could tell they look like gay best f- like her gay best friend. That's what it comes off.

Joe Rogan 1:29:45 Oh, really?

Kurt Metzger 1:29:45 The energy to me comes off that way. It don't come off like...

Joe Rogan 1:29:48 A different energy than when he was on here?

Kurt Metzger 1:29:50 If that's your not-a-spy girlfriend, okay? You're telling me you're gonna go live with a old guy in Vegas. You're gonna live with an older man. That's what you're gonna do as the head of the FBI.

Joe Rogan 1:30:01 Maybe the guy's cool.

Kurt Metzger 1:30:03 I don't know. I remember just-

Joe Rogan 1:30:03 Maybe he's got great stories.

Kurt Metzger 1:30:05 I remember someone telling me-

Joe Rogan 1:30:06 Maybe he's like Whistler from Blade. Like, that old guy you hang out with. Like, Blade and Whistler, they weren't gay to each other.

Kurt Metzger 1:30:11 And you, you, you just... Uh, you know what? They were, now that you brought up Whistler.

Joe Rogan 1:30:14 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:30:14 I realize that was not an actual relationship.

Joe Rogan 1:30:16 I always wondered why are those guys living together?

Kurt Metzger 1:30:18 Yo.

Joe Rogan 1:30:18 (laughs) Whistler's making all these fucking mechanisms-

Kurt Metzger 1:30:21 Yeah. Since he was a boy.

Joe Rogan 1:30:22 ... for him to go fight the vampires.

Kurt Metzger 1:30:24 I've been training you since you were a boy.

Joe Rogan 1:30:26 Yeah, literally.

Kurt Metzger 1:30:27 You know?

Joe Rogan 1:30:27 In a warehouse.

Kurt Metzger 1:30:28 Since I took you from Sentinel Island, I raised you.

Joe Rogan 1:30:30 (laughs) ... touch- he had to kill vampires with wooden knives.

Kurt Metzger 1:30:36 Uh, Kris Kristofferson, another guy named as an MK handler.

Joe Rogan 1:30:39 Really?

Kurt Metzger 1:30:40 I don't know if he is. I'm just saying people... You can find out all this shit very easy. It's, it's literally like is somebody gonna look or not?

Joe Rogan 1:30:46 I literally never thought about that plot twist.

Kurt Metzger 1:30:49 Well now, I, it's all I can see because of the amount, the sheer amount of unresolved insane things that for some reason you're not supposed to put them together into a bigger picture. You're supposed to be academic.

Joe Rogan 1:31:00 Like what?

Kurt Metzger 1:31:01 Okay, so-

Joe Rogan 1:31:02 Okay.

Kurt Metzger 1:31:02 ... Epstein, Diddy, fucking the Playboy Mansion, um, the Marc Dutroux case in Belgium, where they all were out in the street over that, which I didn't hear about at the time obviously, why would we ev-

Joe Rogan 1:31:13 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:31:13 The, uh, that island in, uh, uh, Wisconsin where they were taking boys, the Franklin scandal. You, you could trace a whole thing where there's clearly a network. And by the way, the smallest part of the network is the child trafficking, even though that's obscene. Epstein, Nick Bryant, you gotta get him on 'cause he's the first guy to get Epstein's black book, okay? And we had him on Jimmy's show. Yo, probably all the Five Eyes countries' intel money goes through f- Epstein was in charge of that. The finance thing is so much bigger, okay? You, you gotta think like a piece of shit dinoid. So, these are all resources, right? Gold, drugs, kids-

Joe Rogan 1:31:48 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:31:49 ... human slaves. And so that's... They will never do disclosure. Let me put it this way. With aliens, these are not separate topics, they're all part of one thing, and they're never ever gonna disclose shit, because if they ever do, those f- the rizzler, those fat fucks from that, that family that goes to, what do they, what Walmart eating sausage rolls? They-

Joe Rogan 1:32:06 What? (laughs)

Speaker 1:32:08 Costco. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:32:08 The, the Costco family. If the Costco... Listen, if that Costco family finds out what these motherfuckers have been up to for the last... since World War II ended, they will drop their sausage rolls and rip them apart limb from limb like a zombie movie 'cause it's that bad. So, that's why, "Oh, I, I think this year they're gonna have a hearing in a skiff (laughs) and we're gonna find out what the, uh..."

Joe Rogan 1:32:32 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:32:32 Wow, that really paid off, huh? Let's go talk to some fucking, uh, you know, French Illuminati motherfucker. "Oh, the ultra-dimensionals?" Prrt. They, they just string you along with bullshit like a JJ Abrams movie, or fi- or show. Lost, they do Lost. Mystery box.

Joe Rogan 1:32:49 Do you- so what do you think the whole UFO thing is then? 'Cause it's for sure some of it is a psyop, right?

Kurt Metzger 1:32:54 I think the names... Clearly because the names change so often from UFO to UAP.

Joe Rogan 1:32:58 Well, not that often. It's only a couple of times they've done it.

Kurt Metzger 1:33:00 Every time... So, UFOs don't exist, right? Even though it just means something unidentified but it doesn't exist, it's swamp gas. Then they go, "No, they do exist but we don't know what they are."

Joe Rogan 1:33:10 UAP.

Kurt Metzger 1:33:10 And then they change, the brand change, like Diddy.

Joe Rogan 1:33:13 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:33:14 They, those people get smooshed at his fucking show and now his name is Puffy. You understand?

Joe Rogan 1:33:18 Got it.

Kurt Metzger 1:33:19 Like a shitty airline with a, like a-

Joe Rogan 1:33:21 Frontier or something.

Kurt Metzger 1:33:22 Yeah, Frontier, some bigger airline-

Joe Rogan 1:33:24 Spirit.

Kurt Metzger 1:33:24 ... buys a shitty airline-

Joe Rogan 1:33:25 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:33:25 ... so their substandard planes, they can still use 'em. Then when something bad happens, they just cut that, cut that off and they, they got the maximum value.

Joe Rogan 1:33:33 Hm.

Kurt Metzger 1:33:34 Okay? It's just one scam that these fuckers do over and over again. And it, yeah, it is for money but at the top levels, dude, money and secrets are the real currency at the top, tippy-top levels.

Joe Rogan 1:33:44 Right, but what do- so what do you think it is? What do you think is going on?

Kurt Metzger 1:33:47 Uh, I think a fucking cult of... Basically there's like two races of humans on the Earth and it's not based on skin color or any of this shit, it's based on psychopathy.

Joe Rogan 1:33:56 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:33:57 Okay? And there's people that can pull the trigger and people that can't, and there's people that gotta be trained and conditioned to do it and people that don't have to be. And all that royalty, don't know why we still have that in the world at all. I don't know why anybody thinks that's... Or you know, the commies are bad. Why are there kings at all? Anyone? Anyone? Why do you like that shit? It's crazy. It's inbred, people that are so fucking inbred, uh, th- that's probably why they look like fucking reptiles if you-

Joe Rogan 1:34:23 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:34:25 That's why their heads aren't shaped fucking right, and they think they're the great... They think that they come from a different lineage than you. And so there's all kinds of stupid cults all over the place that have these like, you know, uh, uh, everybody can, can pin it on the Jews like in like, oh, they think they're chosen, but that's all the cults, man. That's all of them think they're the chosen ones.

Joe Rogan 1:34:45 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:34:45 The Mormons think it.

Joe Rogan 1:34:46 Yep.

Kurt Metzger 1:34:46 The Jehovies thought it.

Joe Rogan 1:34:48 Catholics.

Kurt Metzger 1:34:49 Yeah, well, why would you be in it if you're not the one who's right?

Joe Rogan 1:34:51 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:34:51 So, I don't even hold that against nobody. But where you know you're dealing with fucking lizard people, uh, metaphorically but may be real, is, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:34:59 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:34:59 ... the obsession with their bloodline and they've got a divine right to do this or that. When you hear people talking about their divine right to fucking o- kill you or do whatever, there's your problem. It's not, uh, you know, you hear about bloodlines it sounds so... It's just royalty. And you don't get to know, by the way, who like the real powers are. We're like a Raj state, like India. The world, I mean.

Joe Rogan 1:35:22 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:35:22 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 1:35:23 Right, right, right. So, if that's the case, and we both agree that's the case-

Kurt Metzger 1:35:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:35:28 ... so what is the UAP thing?

Kurt Metzger 1:35:30 Uh, probably a bunch of different stuff. There's probably drones, there's probably just, uh, orbs that... Plasma physics, by the way, uh, uh, uh, I would, uh, tell everybody read Joseph P. Farrell because that's the... The guy's got some of the best work on that. Plasma, the fourth state of matter that in school they didn't teach us about for some reason. There's gas, liquid, solid, right? The three states of ma- no there's four, and the fourth one is plasma, which I would describe imperfectly as like, uh, if you heat up gas till it's like this steam of steam or something. Plasma, the fourth state of matter. Uh, uh, that's what everything has to do with and that got-

Joe Rogan 1:36:07 Isn't it like 90 something percent of the universe?

Kurt Metzger 1:36:10 Yeah. And by the way there's cold plasma and hot plasma. You could make an AI-

Joe Rogan 1:36:13 Look up, look up wha- uh, what percentage of the use- universe consists of plasma.

Kurt Metzger 1:36:18 So, why would I not learn that in school when I learned the other things? Because they didn't want you looking into it. They classified an area of physics for 80 years, for sure. That's what the Nazis were doing with their stupid bell was plasma shit. And plasma, plasma, that's the thing, plasma. Lex Fridman's dad is a plasma physicist. I was trying to ask him about it when I got interrupted by the QAnon genre.

Joe Rogan 1:36:36 Dun, dun, dun.Okay. "Plasma makes up about 99% or more of the visible ordinary matter in the universe." Whoa.

Kurt Metzger 1:36:46 Mm-hmm. So it's-

Joe Rogan 1:36:48 So nearly all the stuff that is not dark matter or dark energy is in a plasma state?

Kurt Metzger 1:36:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:36:54 Wow.

Kurt Metzger 1:36:56 So, you could make a p- I bet you could make a really cool AI with plasma if you knew how to manipulate it right.

Joe Rogan 1:37:01 That is a crazy statement.

Kurt Metzger 1:37:04 I'll bet some fucking freak in a underground base knows how to upload their consciousness into some fucking shitty plasma thing.

Joe Rogan 1:37:12 You think so?

Kurt Metzger 1:37:13 Yeah. That's what Lucifer, I think, is, a plasma ball of inverted souls. Which they're gonna tell you is Jesus, and it's not, by the way. Anybody telling you that a man-made AI Jesus is a Jesus, I mean, that's a Luciferian. That's how you spot 'em. Just so you know.

Joe Rogan 1:37:26 Well, then I'm a Luciferian, because I've been telling people that.

Kurt Metzger 1:37:29 Well, you hang out with tech people, and they probably beam it in your head.

Joe Rogan 1:37:32 No. It was just a silly idea that I had. The silly idea is that AI is going to make better versions of AI, and if it just keeps doing that, ultimately it's gonna be like a god.

Kurt Metzger 1:37:42 That means it's already happened and it probably is there, and that's why you're-

Joe Rogan 1:37:45 I don't think, I don't think it's happened because I don't think they have the power source for it yet. But I think once they figure that out, they will.

Kurt Metzger 1:37:49 Well, I don't think they can make an AI come to life, but here's one thing that you-

Joe Rogan 1:37:53 Why not?

Kurt Metzger 1:37:54 W- Well, I don't think they have yet. Uh, they're faking it with Indians in a room half the time. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:37:59 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:37:59 Okay, I don't know if you know the sc- level of scam here. It's glorified bots. But what you could do-

Joe Rogan 1:38:04 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:38:04 Here's something you could do. You could take octopus, fuck... You know how an octopus' brain is spread out?

Joe Rogan 1:38:09 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:38:10 There's a lot of ex- You know, like, that butterfly that it's, they grow brain tissue on a chip and it thinks it's a butterfly. You've seen that?

Joe Rogan 1:38:16 Yes.

Kurt Metzger 1:38:16 So that right there, that's how they'd do it. But it can't create life from nothing. That's the thing that they can't do.

Joe Rogan 1:38:22 Not, not n- life from nothing, but the idea is it creates a digital, artificial life, and that this digital, artificial life, it just keeps improving upon it. It doesn't even have to have a physical form. It just has to be capable of doing things.

Kurt Metzger 1:38:34 Um, if that's possible-

Joe Rogan 1:38:34 It has to be capable of automation.

Kurt Metzger 1:38:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:38:36 I mean, if it's one gigantic computer and it m- it uses automation and uses machines to create better versions-

Kurt Metzger 1:38:45 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:38:45 ... uses 'em to design better c- construction methods, better metallurgy, better-

Kurt Metzger 1:38:50 Yeah, yeah. I've heard this-

Joe Rogan 1:38:51 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:38:51 ... and you've heard them talk about it. They don't say it's gonna be good.

Joe Rogan 1:38:54 I'm not saying-

Kurt Metzger 1:38:54 They know it's gonna suck.

Joe Rogan 1:38:55 ... it's gonna be good either. But what I'm saying is-

Kurt Metzger 1:38:57 Well, just traditionally.

Joe Rogan 1:38:58 ... it makes sense that-

Kurt Metzger 1:38:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:38:59 ... if that keeps going, it's almost like a god. If it just keeps getting more and more powerful-

Kurt Metzger 1:39:03 Yeah, of course it is. They say that literally, it's gonna be like a god, but I'm just saying that wouldn't be Jesus. That would be crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:39:10 Well, whatever Jesus was.

Kurt Metzger 1:39:12 I'm sure Jesus was a guy.

Joe Rogan 1:39:14 Whoever Jesus-

Kurt Metzger 1:39:14 I, I don't, when people... Are you a Jim Carrey guy where he's, like, the Christ secretion?

Joe Rogan 1:39:18 What's that?

Kurt Metzger 1:39:19 You ever seen Jim Carrey blather about the Christ secretion on-

Joe Rogan 1:39:22 No. Who is he-

Kurt Metzger 1:39:22 ... Ronald McDonald?

Joe Rogan 1:39:23 What? What is he saying?

Kurt Metzger 1:39:24 I didn't know you forgot about this somehow.

Joe Rogan 1:39:25 What was he saying?

Kurt Metzger 1:39:26 He, he's explaining how what Christ really is, is a secretion from your... Dude, it's Rosicrucian horse shit.

Joe Rogan 1:39:34 (gags) Okay.

Kurt Metzger 1:39:35 Okay? They all about alchemy. Well, these people are into alchemy.

Joe Rogan 1:39:37 It seems like there's a, a tremendous amount of support for the idea that it was a real person. So, the question is how much of what he said and what he did, which was all relayed after his death, how much of that was accurate? And, you know, what was he?

Kurt Metzger 1:39:49 Well-

Joe Rogan 1:39:49 Who was he and what was he?

Kurt Metzger 1:39:50 ... here, here's the main point of Jesus, and, and I don't, and I wouldn't say... 'Cause I g- I have a, a strong feeling that the Bible has a lot of Epstein redactions, you know? I feel like, uh, we only have parts of the... It's, you should think of the Bible as a library, not as a book.

Joe Rogan 1:40:03 Oh.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:03 That's what Bible means. It means a library. So, it's a bunch of books. The whole point of the books-

Joe Rogan 1:40:08 Not only that, some of those books were banned, just like the library.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:10 They weren't banned. Uh, th-

Joe Rogan 1:40:11 The Book of Enoch was.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:13 It wasn't banned.

Joe Rogan 1:40:14 Well, it wasn't-

Kurt Metzger 1:40:14 It just wasn't put in the thing.

Joe Rogan 1:40:15 It wasn't put in the canon-

Kurt Metzger 1:40:16 So it's like a-

Joe Rogan 1:40:16 ... but it in- initially was.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:17 Right. So the, so the, but why did they make the canon they made? The whole point of that library-

Joe Rogan 1:40:22 Rabbis.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:22 What?

Joe Rogan 1:40:23 Rabbis.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:24 The reason it...

Joe Rogan 1:40:24 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:40:26 Uh-

Joe Rogan 1:40:26 That's how the Book of Enoch got removed. It was the decision of a few rabbis.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:30 Well, all I know is-

Joe Rogan 1:40:31 'Cause it didn't align with the Torah.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:33 The, why would the Catholic... You're telling me the Christian-

Joe Rogan 1:40:36 But way back in the day, like, before all that. This is in the Dead Sea Scrolls. It exists.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:40 Well, now-

Joe Rogan 1:40:40 And then when it gets to the Old Testament, it doesn't exist anymore. And the references in the Old Testament, there's, like, a reference to Enoch-

Kurt Metzger 1:40:46 In Jude.

Joe Rogan 1:40:47 And then there's a-

Kurt Metzger 1:40:47 In Jude, there is.

Joe Rogan 1:40:48 ... Ezekiel.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:40:49 Yeah, so, but it was a part of their canon. In the Ethiopian Bible, it still exists.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:54 Right. Theirs is a little bit wilder, but-

Joe Rogan 1:40:56 They got the old one.

Kurt Metzger 1:40:57 Look, the bottom line is the whole purpose of the library, we'll call it, to so you understand it's a bunch of books, is to just show the lineage of Jesus to justify Jesus being the Messiah. That's the whole point of what the book... So, all the stories in there, if they're weird or whatever, the only reason they're in there is to leg- is to show you a line... Now, I'm not saying that's true or not. I'm just saying that's what the point of it is.

Joe Rogan 1:41:16 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:41:16 Okay.

Joe Rogan 1:41:17 That's maybe the New Testament you're talking about then?

Kurt Metzger 1:41:19 No, the whole thing is it-

Joe Rogan 1:41:20 Because Jesus is supposed to be New Testament.

Kurt Metzger 1:41:21 Yo, it's, it's a lot like the Dune series. It's about the Kwisatz Haderach.

Joe Rogan 1:41:25 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:41:25 Okay, and, and so now you'll hear a lot of people tell you, uh, like, Caesar's Messiah kind of shit. In fact, I don't, you've never talked to the Coen brothers, have you?

Joe Rogan 1:41:34 No. I love those guys, though.

Kurt Metzger 1:41:35 So see, uh, Hail, Caesar! I liked that movie a lot. I didn't like it when I first saw it, and then I saw it again.

Joe Rogan 1:41:40 Which one's Hail, Caesar!

Kurt Metzger 1:41:40 The one with Clooney as, uh, the Roman... It's about, um, the guy who plays Thanos plays, uh, a studio fixer named Mike Mannix.

Joe Rogan 1:41:49 Oh.

Kurt Metzger 1:41:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:41:50 That's w- that's, like, one of the rare ones that I never saw.

Kurt Metzger 1:41:52 Okay, so critics-

Joe Rogan 1:41:54 What year was that? 2016?

Kurt Metzger 1:41:54 Uh, 2016. Critics didn't like it because they were like... First of all, this Mannix guy was a piece of shit in real life. At the end, he goes to work for Lockheed in the movie, by the way. Or he decides not to, to still work for the movies. And it makes it kind of idealized, and people were, like, offended. But I think if I a- if I get asked them, I think that the movie's not about that. What it's actually about is Caesar's Messiah, which is the idea that Caesar invented the whole idea of Jesus.

Joe Rogan 1:42:17 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:42:17 And I think they're telling that story through this '50s story just from watching it, because there's a whole part where Joseph, the, uh, notary played by Jonah Hill... And ScarJo's pregnant by some director, and he, he says he's the dad on a stamp. I think they're trying to tell that story. Now, I don't believe the Caesar's Messiah thing, because it's too much of a vi-... One thing people will tell you is it definitely spread very quickly, okay? And people that think he's real or not, Christianity spread pretty quick.... I think it's populism. I think that's what spread, 'cause Christianity is populism. And what do, what do rich oligarchs fucking hate the most? They hate populism. That's why they like a Lindsey Graham Republican and not a, a Tr- what Trump pretended to be Republican, because they hate po- Populism's an insult word that they invented. And what is populism? That's when all the Blacks and whites, everybody stops fighting about horse shit-

Joe Rogan 1:43:07 But if that's the case then-

Kurt Metzger 1:43:08 ... and, and looks at them.

Joe Rogan 1:43:08 ... why did Rome adopt Christianity?

Kurt Metzger 1:43:10 'Cause they had no choice. The Mithra Cult... First of all, so the, the Mithraism, which, uh, like Persia had already probably infiltrated by that time, the, think of it as the Freemasonry or the, or the, uh, Bohemian Grove of its time. That's Mithraism. So now I gotta fucking absorb this populist cause and I have to absorb its energy and disperse it through my kingdom, and they did.

Joe Rogan 1:43:30 Oh, okay. So the-

Kurt Metzger 1:43:31 Like they always do.

Joe Rogan 1:43:32 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:43:33 Any real movement, it will be appropriated by the powers and they will twist it. Because in Christianity you, you really can't be a fucking soldier for Amer- Like, that's not, that does not align with Christianity at all. Conquest and fucking-

Joe Rogan 1:43:47 Right, right, right.

Kurt Metzger 1:43:48 You're not allowed to kill Christians for your country if you're a Christian. I'm not saying I'm a Christian, 'cause I'm not. I, I, I, sometimes I act like a Christian, but most of the time I do not. So I would never say that, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:43:59 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:44:00 But, uh, think of the fucking crazy people running like... That's why TP: USA is so fucked when I watch it, is like, yo, ain't nobody a Christian in that shit. Not one motherfucker there is a fucking Christian. It's a collection of intel and sociopolitical shit and a, and a money scam. Like all politics, like all, like mo- w- all of 'em, but that's, that's the Republican one. And it's real creepy if you watch it.

Joe Rogan 1:44:24 I don't.

Kurt Metzger 1:44:25 Oh, well, you know what?

Joe Rogan 1:44:27 What do you watch? What do you watch that's creepy about it?

Kurt Metzger 1:44:29 You don't watch AMFest where... Well, I know when my father-

Joe Rogan 1:44:31 I don't watch any of that shit anymore. I'm, I'm-

Kurt Metzger 1:44:32 So when my father died-

Joe Rogan 1:44:33 ... swearing off of all of it.

Kurt Metzger 1:44:34 Do you think this is creepy? Uh, uh, to your husband dies, he come out in a sparkly outfit with fireworks shooting off like you're fucking Tony Hinchcliffe at a stadium show?

Joe Rogan 1:44:43 The memes. The memes are amazing.

Kurt Metzger 1:44:44 Yeah, it's all good.

Joe Rogan 1:44:45 The memes are most people mourning, and then her. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:44:48 Yeah. Was it, "Now's a good time to bring the spectacle back to rock, I guess."

Joe Rogan 1:44:53 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:44:53 Oh, they set up the tent-

Joe Rogan 1:44:54 Byron Tench makes-

Kurt Metzger 1:44:54 ... where he got killed to take selfies in. Does that seem odd to anybody?

Joe Rogan 1:44:58 What do you mean?

Kurt Metzger 1:44:58 The tent where Charlie Kirk got killed, it was at AMFest, you could take a selfie in it.

Joe Rogan 1:45:02 What?

Kurt Metzger 1:45:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:45:04 What?

Kurt Metzger 1:45:04 Yeah, but Candace is a grifter.

Joe Rogan 1:45:06 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Kurt Metzger 1:45:07 Fucking reta- Oh, and this bitch sucks too, by the way. But even she's hard.

Joe Rogan 1:45:09 They made a replica of the booth Charlie Kirk was... What?

Kurt Metzger 1:45:12 I've heard it was the real one, but either way, there's no good explanation for doing that.

Joe Rogan 1:45:16 Oh my God, they got a prove me wrong booth-

Kurt Metzger 1:45:20 Now, by the way-

Joe Rogan 1:45:20 ... set up where Charlie Kirk was assassinated in as a fan photo booth. That is nuts. But it's also-

Kurt Metzger 1:45:27 It's called apotheosis.

Joe Rogan 1:45:28 But, hold on. But it also is a replica of the booth that he used to do his show in.

Kurt Metzger 1:45:33 That's the one, uh, where he got killed.

Joe Rogan 1:45:35 So if you're a fa- Right, but it's also, he did hundreds of shows in that booth other than the one he got killed, and it could be people that wanna take a picture of it because they were a fan of his show.

Kurt Metzger 1:45:44 Yo, if you... Look-

Joe Rogan 1:45:46 It's crazy.

Kurt Metzger 1:45:46 ... I hate-

Joe Rogan 1:45:47 But still.

Kurt Metzger 1:45:47 ... I hate magical occult shit, even though for some reason in, in the course of studying, trying to find out for a joke about what the tall white aliens were.

Joe Rogan 1:45:55 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:45:55 That's how I started out, 'cause it s- sounded so funny to me that there's, like, these taller, whiter things in charge.

Joe Rogan 1:46:01 Yeah, Nordics.

Kurt Metzger 1:46:02 Not Nordics.

Joe Rogan 1:46:03 Nordics and tall whites, yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:46:04 The tall whites are all by-

Joe Rogan 1:46:05 They're different.

Kurt Metzger 1:46:06 But there's this-

Joe Rogan 1:46:06 They have no ears, right?

Kurt Metzger 1:46:06 ... insane overlap, dude. There's a crazy overlap between that and wizard bullshit, okay? Like-

Joe Rogan 1:46:13 They probably are wizards. That's probably where it came from.

Kurt Metzger 1:46:15 Yeah, so you gotta get... Well, I, I'm not saying you specifically, but everybody's gotta get over the idea, it's like the, the label... The words are just like conceptual prisons. There's concepts flying around, you imprison them in a word.

Joe Rogan 1:46:25 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:46:26 And it's, that's why you're not supposed to say the name of God in, in, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:46:29 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:46:29 ... you know, whatever, right? 'Cause that would impose limits on the infinite, so that's, like, blasphemous.

Joe Rogan 1:46:34 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:46:35 When people see these things and, uh, and there's a lot of stories of this. Uh, a friend of mine, Nathaniel Gillis, who my fans call Smart Shane. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:46:43 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:46:43 He's at-

Speaker 1:46:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:46:46 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:46:46 Had him on Turf with Kirk. He was like, "Ask Smart Shane about that." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:46:51 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:46:51 But, uh, how'd he put it to me recently? He goes, he goes, "A lot of these plasma, they're like compressed entities." So the sigil is a big important part of it. A crop circle's a sigil, or a brand is a sigil. But think of it as, like, information being stored on something, and they're like these plasma compress- And so because they're, like, uh, in a dimension above you, y- basically you gotta be groomed with movies and fantasy so that you, when I fucking look through your head and project myself through it, you can project a, a, a form onto me. Do you know what I mean? It sounds kind of weird, but like, uh, think of the Adam and Eve, their, their ability to name the animals, that was their job. It sounds kind of hokey, but I think it has to do with something like, uh, uh, you know, quantum theory, where the thing's not there till you look at it, or when you do DMT-

Joe Rogan 1:47:37 Mm.

Kurt Metzger 1:47:37 ... and they go, "Look at this."

Joe Rogan 1:47:38 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:47:38 'Cause they don't exist until you look at them and they know it, so they need to exist and f- your attention, your focus. So-

Joe Rogan 1:47:45 Consciousness.

Kurt Metzger 1:47:46 Yeah, these are just stupid plasma blobs, probably a lot of these things, but they could... If I'm in a dimension above you and I can look in your fucking brain, I can see, okay, this guy has patterns for a religious thing or an alien thing, and I can appear to you as that, right?

Joe Rogan 1:47:59 Ooh.

Kurt Metzger 1:48:01 So there's something with that. I'm not saying that's the whole thing, but there's definitely a part of it that's that.

Joe Rogan 1:48:05 That makes sense. Hold that thought.

Kurt Metzger 1:48:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:48:07 Hold that thought, 'cause I have to piss, but-

Kurt Metzger 1:48:08 I do too.

Joe Rogan 1:48:09 Okay, good, perfect. Hold that thought.

Kurt Metzger 1:48:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:48:10 Okay, where were we at exactly?

Kurt Metzger 1:48:12 The plasma compressed entities.

Joe Rogan 1:48:13 We were at plasma things, they appear either as religion or as alien depending on-

Kurt Metzger 1:48:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:48:16 ... if you're secular or religious. Okay.

Kurt Metzger 1:48:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:48:18 We'll be right back, folks. All right, we're back. Um, so Jamie, explain this to everybody.

Speaker 1:48:22 Uh, these guys run a podcast called From First Principles, I think they're some physics nerds.

Joe Rogan 1:48:28 Okay.

Speaker 1:48:28 And they're explaining, uh, the relevancy of the professor who was killed at night. I think this was recorded before he died.

Joe Rogan 1:48:35 Ooh, okay.

Speaker 1:48:36 But it's very interesting, I'll tell you that much.

Joe Rogan 1:48:37 Let's hear it.

Speaker 1:48:39 Um.

Kurt Metzger 1:48:40 Things-

Joe Rogan 1:48:40 Things-

Kurt Metzger 1:48:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:48:41 ... that happens in the 21st century. Quite an amazing story. Nuno Lourieiro-

Kurt Metzger 1:48:46 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:48:46 ... MIT professor-

Speaker 1:48:47 This is the paper that makes him famous.

Speaker 1:48:49 Okay.

Speaker 1:48:49 Okay? This is the one that has the most citations. He was at PPL at the time-

Speaker 1:48:53 Yes.

Speaker 1:48:53 Prison, Prison Plasma Physics Lab.

Speaker 1:48:55 Yeah.

Speaker 1:48:55 This is the one that puts him on the map-

Speaker 1:48:57 Yes.

Speaker 1:48:57 ... of plasma physics, 'cause he solves this 50-year-old problem.

Speaker 1:49:02 Problem. Not bad.

Speaker 1:49:02 Not bad.

Speaker 1:49:03 Not bad.

Speaker 1:49:04 Not bad, Nuno. And he became a professor at MIT, became full professor. And in 2004, he was the director of the Plasma Science and Fusion Center-

Speaker 1:49:12 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:49:12 ... at MIT. And that MIT PSFC-

Speaker 1:49:16 Yes.

Speaker 1:49:17 ... spun out and created Commonwealth Fusion Systems, which is designing something called SPARC. It is a small fusion reactor.

Speaker 1:49:25 Hmm.

Speaker 1:49:25 I mean, this, it looks kinda big.

Speaker 1:49:27 Yeah.

Speaker 1:49:27 Mate, compared to-

Speaker 1:49:28 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:49:29 (laughs)

Speaker 1:49:29 Like, compared to fusion reactors, that is small, okay?

Speaker 1:49:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:49:33 That's, that, that is, that is quite small.

Speaker 1:49:35 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:49:35 The goal is to be the first device to achieve a Q-factor greater than one. A Q-factor is basically net energy gain.

Kurt Metzger 1:49:42 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:49:43 Right.

Speaker 1:49:43 Which is how much energy you put in, how much do you get out, the ratio of that. If you have greater than one, then whatever's that greater than one, you can use to power a turbine, which creates electricity.

Speaker 1:49:54 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:49:54 Effectively, what they're trying to do is have these magnets go at 12 tesla. 12 tesla is insanely strong.

Speaker 1:50:01 Yeah.

Speaker 1:50:01 Okay?

Speaker 1:50:02 Yeah.

Speaker 1:50:02 Um, several orders of magnitude above the magnetic field of the Earth.

Speaker 1:50:06 Okay.

Speaker 1:50:06 And what they're doing is using these magnets to confine the plasma into a donut-

Speaker 1:50:11 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:50:11 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:50:11 ... spin it around really fast-

Speaker 1:50:13 Yes.

Speaker 1:50:14 ... and then, and then have that plasma in that spinning, do the fusion-

Speaker 1:50:18 Yes.

Speaker 1:50:18 ... so the hydrogen is gonna combine to make helium-

Speaker 1:50:21 Yes.

Speaker 1:50:21 ... release a bunch of energy.

Speaker 1:50:22 Yes.

Speaker 1:50:23 And then that energy's gonna be used to create electricity.

Speaker 1:50:25 That's how they're gonna try to capture it. And the point is, you need that 12 tesla because you need to be able to confine-

Speaker 1:50:29 Confine it.

Speaker 1:50:29 ... confine the plasma.

Speaker 1:50:30 Yes.

Speaker 1:50:30 And that's, that's the reason for that scale.

Speaker 1:50:33 Exactly. And at that scale, all of a sudden, um, Loureiro's legacy matters.

Kurt Metzger 1:50:37 Hmm.

Speaker 1:50:38 Right?

Speaker 1:50:38 Hmm.

Speaker 1:50:39 All of the theories that he's, he's posited-

Speaker 1:50:41 Right.

Speaker 1:50:41 ... at these, like, high Lundquist numbers-

Speaker 1:50:43 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1:50:44 ... that's what matters. So any, any-

Speaker 1:50:45 Ah.

Speaker 1:50:45 ... code that you have to contain the plasma needs to rely on his theory.

Speaker 1:50:51 We hope that those around him at the lab, um, you know, once grieving has passed, you know, continue to aggressively pursue his vision.

Speaker 1:51:01 Yeah.

Speaker 1:51:02 Uh, and, and, and the work that he's already done-

Speaker 1:51:05 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:51:05 ... because it, it's, it's a huge foundation.

Speaker 1:51:07 Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's, it's amazing, you know? And it could change the world.

Kurt Metzger 1:51:11 Yeah. Fun fact.

Joe Rogan 1:51:12 It was after, obviously. But-

Kurt Metzger 1:51:14 By the way, fun fact.

Joe Rogan 1:51:15 Wow.

Kurt Metzger 1:51:15 And that's why Joseph P. Farrell, I can't recommend him enough, Joseph, Dr. Joseph P. Farrell.

Joe Rogan 1:51:19 Wow.

Kurt Metzger 1:51:19 Um, the Nazi bell they supposedly found, that's what that bell supposedly did. It spun plasma in a field like that. (laughs) So the idea's been around forever. If this guy... I, I think it's been cracked-

Joe Rogan 1:51:31 How, how did you hear that, that the Nazi bell was a plasma field?

Kurt Metzger 1:51:34 Well, okay, so the guy that wrote the book about the Nazi bell, the book came out in the '70s, but, uh... And also I had the... Oh, dude, I fucking feel bad, I'm forgetting the guy's name. He's from the FBI. He studied the, um, Sonoma Aero Club and the, uh, NMSA, which was, uh, another aero... It was before the Wright Brothers and shit. Walter Bosley, ex-FBI guy, who done a lot of great work studying this shit about the, these aero clubs. Remember the airship, uh, mysteries of the 1800s with-

Joe Rogan 1:52:02 Yes.

Kurt Metzger 1:52:02 Okay. So there's one where the thing lands and the guy says, "Yeah, a man back east is financing this," and it's J.P. Morgan is who the guy was talking about. And so, uh, later the Wright Brothers... The Wright Brothers weren't the first people to fly. I highly doubt they were.

Joe Rogan 1:52:15 Really?

Kurt Metzger 1:52:16 You gotta look up NMSA. Walter Bosley, great work. Joseph P. Farrell, great fucking work. And Bosley was on my show. I haven't gotten, had Farrell on, but I want to. And then, uh, Dark Journalist dude is how I discovered... Well, I learned of Joseph P. Farrell before that, but Dark Journalist channel, that guy does killer work. Um, I don't know, I look at a lot of good shit, dude. But plasma physics, the bottom line, plasma's been a thing.

Joe Rogan 1:52:38 Bell, Nazi bell.

Kurt Metzger 1:52:39 Yeah. There was supposedly a rotating plasma.

Joe Rogan 1:52:41 Right. Um, so the, who wrote about that?

Kurt Metzger 1:52:44 Uh, the initial book about the bell I can't remember, but Joe Farrell wrote a bunch of books about it.

Joe Rogan 1:52:48 And what did they-

Kurt Metzger 1:52:49 Uh, Demon in the E-, in the I-Core, or E-Core it's called. That's the book you should get about it. Uh-

Joe Rogan 1:52:53 What was the science? Like how did they, uh, what were they trying to do and what were they using?

Kurt Metzger 1:52:58 'Cause if you can rotate a plasma like that, I think-

Joe Rogan 1:53:00 Like how did the Nazis get plasma into this bell? Like, what are they doing?

Kurt Metzger 1:53:04 Uh, it sounded very much like what they were talking about.

Joe Rogan 1:53:07 Right, but we're talking about 1944, 1943.

Kurt Metzger 1:53:10 Yeah, it's like an electric, you need an electrical field, like a, I forget, 12 tesla, whatever he said. I don't really know what any of those measurements mean, but-

Joe Rogan 1:53:16 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 1:53:16 ... you just need the field to contain it. And then, uh, you rotate it, you get something called torsion physics, which, uh...

Joe Rogan 1:53:22 So the, the bell-

Kurt Metzger 1:53:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:53:23 ... is like, to contain the plasma?

Kurt Metzger 1:53:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:53:26 What is the, the conventional description for the, that Nazi bell thing? What do they think it is?

Kurt Metzger 1:53:34 Uh, it's not... I don't... Uh, what do you mean? They said it didn't work or something. I think, uh... Oh, you had Jay from Project Unity on-

Joe Rogan 1:53:40 Yes.

Kurt Metzger 1:53:40 ... talking about it. Jay-

Joe Rogan 1:53:41 Um, did he talk about the Nazi bell?

Kurt Metzger 1:53:43 He talked about some good shit, dude.

Joe Rogan 1:53:45 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:53:45 'Cause he saw orbs.

Joe Rogan 1:53:46 Yes.

Kurt Metzger 1:53:47 My girl had an orb over her once. She tells me, casually tells me this story.

Joe Rogan 1:53:51 Oh.

Kurt Metzger 1:53:51 I know, I accused her of cheating. I go, "What, do you love that orb? Did you fuck that orb?"

Joe Rogan 1:53:54 Jesus.

Kurt Metzger 1:53:55 I just, I just get jealous. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:53:56 Um, what is the, the conventional explanation for the-

Kurt Metzger 1:54:01 I'm trying to find out if it's real.

Joe Rogan 1:54:02 ... the Nazi bell.

Kurt Metzger 1:54:02 Why it's even known to... I don't know if it's real.

Joe Rogan 1:54:05 Is it real?

Kurt Metzger 1:54:06 And supposedly the Kecksburg Acorn, which is the UFO that landed in Pennsylvania, uh, there's-

Joe Rogan 1:54:11 Which one's that?

Kurt Metzger 1:54:13 If you look up Kecksburg Pennsylvania Acorn, there's this thing that appeared in the '70s that supposedly is the Nazi bell that had-

Joe Rogan 1:54:20 Traveled through time?

Kurt Metzger 1:54:21 Yeah. Now, I, that's, that's kinda far out, but that's, uh...

Joe Rogan 1:54:25 What?

Kurt Metzger 1:54:25 Yeah, you never heard of this?

Joe Rogan 1:54:26 No. (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 1:54:27 Me either.

Joe Rogan 1:54:29 What is that?

Kurt Metzger 1:54:30 I will, I will say this. I also saw, uh, this on the internet. All right, check this out.

Joe Rogan 1:54:34 That looks like a clay pottery.

Kurt Metzger 1:54:36 There's the right... This might, this looks fake as shit, but... Well, yeah, it's probably fake, but-

Joe Rogan 1:54:39 But they say it's a picture of the bell at Wright-Patterson.

Kurt Metzger 1:54:41 Yeah, that was the, the... Oh, that's Kecksburg Acorn?

Joe Rogan 1:54:44 What? Oh, I want that to be real so bad.

Kurt Metzger 1:54:46 It looks fake.

Joe Rogan 1:54:46 (laughs) It looks so fake.

Kurt Metzger 1:54:47 No, well, you know-

Joe Rogan 1:54:48 It looks like a kid made it.

Kurt Metzger 1:54:49 Dude, imagine Star Trek, okay? Imagine they're on their five-year mission.

Joe Rogan 1:54:53 American Kecks-

Kurt Metzger 1:54:53 But nobody on Earth knows Star Trek is a thing.... that's what's probably happening. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:54:57 Zoom in on that. Zoom in on that again, the bell? Look how crazy that is.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:00 It's got the same writing on it as the acorn.

Joe Rogan 1:55:01 God, I want that to be real.

Speaker 1:55:03 But I also just noticed this, the corner of the picture.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:06 What the fuck?

Speaker 1:55:06 I think it says Kecksburg on it.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:08 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:55:08 Oh, what, Keck the Frog?

Kurt Metzger 1:55:09 Wait, that's supposed to be a photo?

Joe Rogan 1:55:11 They're fucking with you?

Speaker 1:55:12 Yeah. So this is a f- says it's a photo. The photo has a caption here, it says, "Write pat airf-" It's handwritten.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:18 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:55:18 Yeah. Look at the photo again.

Speaker 1:55:20 It's like a sticker or something.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:22 I mean, it's...

Joe Rogan 1:55:22 The photo... Right, the photo looks fake though.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:24 It does, doesn't it?

Speaker 1:55:25 It looks like it's made by AI and then printed.

Joe Rogan 1:55:26 It looks really fake. It looks...

Kurt Metzger 1:55:27 I mean, it looks extremely fake.

Joe Rogan 1:55:29 It looks very fake. But God, it look... I want it to be real so bad. I'm, like, trying to find a way that it's real.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:35 Well, they just executed a guy who fucking was making breakthroughs in plasma, that supposedly already happened in Germany. And... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:55:40 Not only... Yeah, he's the same guy they went to Brown University, supposedly.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:43 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:55:43 He executed someone there too.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:45 Y- Yeah, it is?

Joe Rogan 1:55:46 Same guy. Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:46 I thought it wasn't.

Joe Rogan 1:55:47 I think they thought it was the same guy, and then he killed himself.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:51 Yeah. Well...

Joe Rogan 1:55:52 Dude, m- find that, search that. 'Cause I, I think that is the case. I think that is what they're... At least that's what they're saying.

Kurt Metzger 1:55:57 You know what the purpose of MK was, right?

Joe Rogan 1:55:59 What?

Kurt Metzger 1:55:59 It was to make spies, sex people that could change, like, "I'm gay," or, "I'm straight," depending on what you need to get the info. "I can kill you, I could fucking do it and not remember it." That was the whole point of the Manchurian Candidate program.

Joe Rogan 1:56:11 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:56:12 Which we started doing because supposedly the Asians were doing it, the Commies.

Joe Rogan 1:56:16 Dun, dun, dun.

Kurt Metzger 1:56:17 But, no, it's an old art that comes from (laughs) a long time ago, going back to Egypt.

Joe Rogan 1:56:23 Really?

Kurt Metzger 1:56:24 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:56:24 The Egyptians did it?

Kurt Metzger 1:56:25 Oh, dude. Uh, Windows on the World, another great... The Mark Windows I had on Derbekurb. And that guy is great because he really... He has a video called Egyptian Crowd Control, and he explains a society based on OCD. There you go.

Joe Rogan 1:56:37 Brown shooting suspect, grueling academic climate may have taken mental toll says ex-classmates.

Kurt Metzger 1:56:45 Yeah. Joe Biden.

Joe Rogan 1:56:45 Claudio Valente and one of the victims...

Kurt Metzger 1:56:48 Was he bullied?

Joe Rogan 1:56:49 ... Nuno F. G. Loureiro both studied at notoriously challenging Tecnico de Lisbon.

Kurt Metzger 1:56:55 Yeah.

Speaker 1:56:56 That's the guy we just watched the video about.

Joe Rogan 1:56:57 So, the guy that we just watched the video about, uh, is, uh, they... Him and that guy both d- d- were at the same university. So he killed that guy? They are saying he killed that guy, right?

Speaker 1:57:10 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:57:11 So he killed both that guy and the person at, at Brown?

Kurt Metzger 1:57:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:57:13 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:57:13 How many weird shootings are we up to now where there's all these weird details and we should shut up about it?

Joe Rogan 1:57:18 That is, that is a weird one. Um...

Kurt Metzger 1:57:20 The guy that shot Trump's ear. Remember that one? I guess we should forget about it.

Joe Rogan 1:57:23 They both graduated in t- in 2000. Contemporaries of the two men describe the academic environment as emotionally grueling. Only one was willing to go on the record, but several others expressed similar c- opinions. He was described as brilliant and competitive, but willing to help his colleagues out. He finished top of his class with an average grade of 19 out of 20, unusually high score for Tecnico. Loureiro, who was said to be an excellent student, but more easygoing than Valente, finished with an average grade of 16 out of 20.

Kurt Metzger 1:57:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:57:54 Wait, which one's Loureiro?

Speaker 1:57:55 Tecnico died, the MIT professor.

Joe Rogan 1:57:58 Wow. So he was the less good student. So this guy was probably pissed at the less good student.

Kurt Metzger 1:58:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:58:04 That's why he whacked him.

Kurt Metzger 1:58:05 Yeah, no, I'm sure that's why. Not, not anything to do with plasma physics, this guy here.

Joe Rogan 1:58:09 Haven't known Claudio and having had a good relationship with him, we can't find any other explanation than a serious mental health problem-

Kurt Metzger 1:58:15 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:58:15 ... exacerbated by resentment for not having achieved the academic career he dreamed of.

Kurt Metzger 1:58:20 Look at my jerk-off motions I'm making while you say that.

Joe Rogan 1:58:23 You don't believe it?

Kurt Metzger 1:58:24 No.

Joe Rogan 1:58:24 You think it's, uh, MKUltra?

Kurt Metzger 1:58:26 Hey, what happened to the guy that blew his Tesla truck up and then they said he was mad 'cause the kid wasn't his and it was a lie?

Joe Rogan 1:58:32 Yeah, whatever happened to that guy?

Kurt Metzger 1:58:33 I don't know. Sean Ryan-

Joe Rogan 1:58:34 That one just went away quick.

Kurt Metzger 1:58:35 Remember Sean Ryan had the goods and we never heard about it again?

Joe Rogan 1:58:37 Didn't Sean Ryan get a letter from the guy or something?

Kurt Metzger 1:58:39 Yeah, a letter of nonsense. And then he said he had some kind of... And we just never spoke about it again.

Joe Rogan 1:58:43 That's it?

Speaker 1:58:44 I came up with that small... The, the Minnesota conspiracy too. 'Cause some... Remember there was, like, a guy that killed someone that voted in the...

Kurt Metzger 1:58:52 Yes, that's right. You're right about that.

Speaker 1:58:55 He had a letter, I just was reading-

Kurt Metzger 1:58:57 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:58:58 ... online. It's fucking weird.

Kurt Metzger 1:58:58 You know what I saw when we were looking at that?

Joe Rogan 1:59:00 The Minnesota one is nuts because the lady that was whacked was the one lady that didn't vote for healthcare-

Kurt Metzger 1:59:05 That's right.

Joe Rogan 1:59:06 ... for the illegals.

Kurt Metzger 1:59:06 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 1:59:07 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 1:59:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:59:08 And she was... You ever see the speech that she gave, how terrified she was?

Kurt Metzger 1:59:11 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:59:11 When she gave the spee- Uh, literally, her voice was cracking, "I know some are going to be harmed by this."

Kurt Metzger 1:59:17 Uh, it reminded me of Charlie Kirk's final text messages about how they think they're g-... Yo, the things that... We covered this on Jimmy's show. For three weeks before he died, they were all piling on him that he's an antisemite 'cause he had Dave Smith on and fucking...

Joe Rogan 1:59:31 Oh.

Speaker 1:59:32 Yeah, this is, uh...

Kurt Metzger 1:59:32 Laura Loomer, that piece of shit, she goes, "Why don't you admit you're an antisemite?" I don't think Charlie Kirk was an antisemite. He called it ethnic cleansing on, uh, Patrick Bet-Veaud's show.

Joe Rogan 1:59:41 Called what e- ethnic cleansing?

Kurt Metzger 1:59:43 Gaza.

Joe Rogan 1:59:43 Oh, right.

Kurt Metzger 1:59:44 Where he... That's a big no-no. And then his funders-

Joe Rogan 1:59:46 Right.

Kurt Metzger 1:59:47 ... were like, "Hey, what if you die, who's gonna take over?" That's the first thing they say to you when you come in?

Joe Rogan 1:59:51 He also said, uh, "Was there a stand down? Was there a stand down order?" He talked about that on, on Patrick Bet-David. He's like: I know-

Kurt Metzger 1:59:58 And guess what? If you watch Israeli news, there was. It's called the Hannibal directive. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:00:02 Go back to that, Jamie. What were you pulling up? What were you showing us?

Speaker 2:00:04 Uh, so this is... It's typed out here, obviously. But it says this is the handwritten original.

Kurt Metzger 2:00:09 Oh, Lance Bolt-

Joe Rogan 2:00:10 (coughs)

Kurt Metzger 2:00:10 This maniac.

Joe Rogan 2:00:12 He wrote it.

Kurt Metzger 2:00:12 Yeah.

Speaker 2:00:13 He said he was trained. He said Tim Waltz wanted this done.

Kurt Metzger 2:00:16 That's right. Well, th- th- th- yo.

Joe Rogan 2:00:18 He says, "Dear Kash Patel, my name is Dr. Vance Luther Boltler."

Kurt Metzger 2:00:22 Bolter.

Joe Rogan 2:00:22 "Bolter, Bolter, Ed."

Kurt Metzger 2:00:23 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 2:00:24 What is that? Ed, D? What is that?

Speaker 2:00:26 Uh, I think an education degree.

Joe Rogan 2:00:27 Okay.

Kurt Metzger 2:00:28 I mean, don't bother, dude.

Speaker 2:00:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:00:28 "I am the shooter at, at large in Minnesota involved in the..." It says something, "Shoo, two shootings." I don't know what that means.

Kurt Metzger 2:00:37 Oh, look at that.

Speaker 2:00:38 It's because it's handwritten, I think, right? It's a handwritten transcript.

Kurt Metzger 2:00:39 "I was trained by military people off the book, starting in college." That's a very common thing.

Joe Rogan 2:00:44 "I have been on projects-"

Kurt Metzger 2:00:45 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 2:00:45 "... since that time in Eastern Europe, North America, Middle East, and Africa, all in the line of doing what I thought was right and in the best interests of the United States. Recently, I was approached about a project that Tim Waltz wanted done and I, blank, blank, blank, and Keith, blank, blank, were also aware of the project. Tim wanted me to kill Amy Klobuchar and Tina, blank."

Kurt Metzger 2:01:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 2:01:06 "Tim wants to be a senator and doesn't trust, blank, to retire as planned, and thinks she is going to stay on at the last minute. With Amy, blank, gone, Tim would get one of the gen- gen senate seats and, blank, wants to be governor."... and Keith Ellison, uh, spelling incorrect, would be rewarded with a lieutenant governor's position. I told Tim I wanted nothing to do with it and if he didn't call off that plan, I would go public. He said he would call it hurt my f- he would call it hurt my family if I did, uh-

Kurt Metzger 2:01:43 Oh, he probably did not.

Joe Rogan 2:01:43 ... SIC play ball. Uh, then he set up a meeting with me and Mel Blank and Blank to talk about options when I, they had some people waiting to kill me. Okay, and what I did, I guess. Uh, I was able to get away by God's mercy, so I went back a short time later and shot both, at both Blank and Blank. You should notice how I didn't fire one round at any police officers, and boy do I, did I have plenty of opportunity. Ask for the report on how many weapons and ammunition I had with me, cops were pulling up right next to me in their vehicles and I had an AK pistol aimed right at her head, and I could have left a pile of cops dead but I did shoot one bullet towards law enforcement.

Kurt Metzger 2:02:29 (laughs) You can ask him. Probably, probably did not.

Joe Rogan 2:02:30 I think he says, "I did not."

Kurt Metzger 2:02:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:02:33 Yeah. You can ask them because I support the police and didn't want them hurt. If they are hurting my wife and kids next time, I won't give them a pass. Okay. Then ask Tim Walz if he knows me and see what he says. If he says he doesn't know me or never met me, look in the files and you will see that Tim Walz personally appointed me as to be on his Governor's Workforce Board as one of the business representatives. He is probably trying to destroy that info, but it's public record. Then ask Tim Walz why they kept the shots silent from the media when they first happened, not a word in the press about it. Why? They needed to get their stories figured out first so everyone was on the same page about, in quotes, "what happened." Tim is probably crapping bricks right now because I'm still at large and he knows what I can do, and that I know about where all the buried skeletons are. So I'll be at shot on sight, you can bet on that. I will be shot on site. Um, l- first of all, is this a legitimate letter that was sent to Kash Patel? Did this actually get sent? Is this, is this true?

Kurt Metzger 2:03:38 Looks like it.

Joe Rogan 2:03:39 No, but w- what do we know about this?

Speaker 2:03:41 Yeah, this is from, uh-

Joe Rogan 2:03:42 This is not misinformation. Talk into the mic.

Speaker 2:03:44 No. I've pretty, I've, I've ... Yeah, no. Yeah, it's-

Joe Rogan 2:03:47 So this is the actual letter he s- this crazy guy sent?

Speaker 2:03:50 He sent it to the FBI-

Joe Rogan 2:03:51 Ooh.

Speaker 2:03:51 ... whether or not it's real, you know, doesn't-

Joe Rogan 2:03:52 Okay. Right. So here's the next question. Did this guy actually work for the governor's office? Did he actually work for Tim Walz?

Speaker 2:04:04 Well, that, that's-

Joe Rogan 2:04:05 This is all the suspect details, what he did.

Kurt Metzger 2:04:07 Yeah. Yeah, that's, he's claiming it's like secret. That's kinda what he was saying.

Joe Rogan 2:04:10 Is he claiming it's secret? So-

Kurt Metzger 2:04:11 Well, he said something you could check, but by the way-

Joe Rogan 2:04:14 Right.

Kurt Metzger 2:04:14 ... this is a, a, a drop in the bucket. There, there's many stories like this.

Joe Rogan 2:04:17 I understand, but I wanna know if he's completely crazy or if he never really worked with him, if he just made all this shit up. Right? 'Cause that is possible. The guy's out of his fucking mind. He shows up at someone's house with a mask on, he's clearly out of his fucking mind. Right?

Kurt Metzger 2:04:30 I mean, w- you'd be surprised what outta people, outta your mind people-

Joe Rogan 2:04:33 Right.

Kurt Metzger 2:04:33 ... work with, uh-

Joe Rogan 2:04:33 That's true. That's true. But I mean, open mind, right? The guy might've just been out of his fucking mind and never met Tim Walz. This, it could be total bullshit.

Kurt Metzger 2:04:43 I guess. I don't, I doubt it very much.

Joe Rogan 2:04:46 I don't know. Said the attack appears to be a politically motivated assassination, this is what K- Tim Walz said.

Kurt Metzger 2:04:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:04:53 State officials and authorities early on Saturday encountered what appeared to be a police vehicle with emergency lights flashing in the driveway of Representative Melissa Hortman's house. Uh, officers at the home saw Bolter, dressed as a police officer, shoot an adult man through the open front door, according to a criminal complaint upturned, obtained by the Minnesota Star Tribune. Suspect exchanged gunfire with police and ran into the house. So he s- he did exchange gunfire according to this, ultimately disappearing from the area according to the complaint. We don't know if that's true. Um, Hortman, the top Democrat in the Minnesota House, and her husband were both killed at a nearby home. Senator, State Gen- uh, Senator John Huffman and his wife were also shot, but are in stable condition after surgery. So, and that lady who got killed was the one lady who voted against it, and I, I sent you that, right, Jamie?

Kurt Metzger 2:05:50 A long time ago you sent me that.

Joe Rogan 2:05:52 Yeah. That one's kinda crazy.

Kurt Metzger 2:05:53 Yeah, no, Vance Bolter-

Joe Rogan 2:05:55 You see-

Kurt Metzger 2:05:55 ... is a real weird, uh ...

Joe Rogan 2:05:55 You see her talking about it.

Kurt Metzger 2:05:57 Yeah, she looks little, bi- bit upset.

Joe Rogan 2:05:59 Yeah. She looks super shooken up that she made that vote and, you know, she, she looked, like, legitimately nervous.

Kurt Metzger 2:06:06 Have you ever seen the guy from Utah? His last name's L- I wanna say Ron Leavitt. His last name's Leavitt and he's the DA that called the press conference to announce that he's not a Satanic cannibal to get ahead of-

Joe Rogan 2:06:18 (laughs) No.

Kurt Metzger 2:06:18 And, and by the way, no one was accusing him of that, so people-

Joe Rogan 2:06:21 Not yet.

Kurt Metzger 2:06:21 ... took it real weird.

Joe Rogan 2:06:23 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 2:06:24 They were like, "Why would you fucking come out and say something like that?"

Joe Rogan 2:06:27 Tell me this.

Kurt Metzger 2:06:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:06:28 What is, why do some people not wanna even consider the idea that someone was assassinated, uh, at the behest of powerful people? Like, why, wh-

Kurt Metzger 2:06:39 Uh, 'cause they're programmed not to, that's why. It's called programming and it works.

Joe Rogan 2:06:43 Right.

Kurt Metzger 2:06:43 It's, it's worked the whole time.

Joe Rogan 2:06:43 They're programmed to think there's just one sick individual who commits these crimes and it has nothing to do with powerful people.

Kurt Metzger 2:06:49 How'd Jerry Sandusky get away with it? How did, how did the ... Look, think of the, the classic, uh, spotlight ca- 'cause Barry Crimmins is a good friend of mine. I remember Barry fucking, I remember asking about shit, he goes like, "I wouldn't throw my ..." You know, I do real work with people, so if I just get behind a thing, i- I could cost my credibility 'cause I have to like really help actu-" We went on tour and he, every town, dude, I met people that he helped navigate the fucked up legal system that sucks ass. Okay? It was like the e- knowing the equalizer, from that show The Equalizer.

Joe Rogan 2:07:19 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 2:07:20 But there's also a side of Barry that was four years old forever.

Joe Rogan 2:07:23 Right.

Kurt Metzger 2:07:23 Okay? 'Cause of what happened.

Joe Rogan 2:07:24 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 2:07:24 That's what happens in trauma. A part of you freezes at that age. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:07:28 Yeah.

Kurt Metzger 2:07:29 And, uh, especially at four?... that's like a split, you split, and that's a real thing. They said it was debunked for quite some time. But I met some people with Barry, and he had helped these girl... I can't remember where we were. I wanna say it was Pennsylvania, but I might be wrong. But they, uh, their dad was the mayor and they had repressed memories, they told me, and he helped them with all their legal shit. And I think they got some kind of justice. But I thought that was debunked. Epigenetics it's called now, by the way. It's a legitimate thing. Uh, generational trauma around 20... whenever BLM happened. If you look at-

Joe Rogan 2:08:02 Mm-hmm.

Kurt Metzger 2:08:02 ... 2011, that's made up. There's no such thing. But all of a sudden around BLM times, gener- generational trauma's real. I- it's called epigenetics. The reason it's called Project Monarch is because the monarch, the butterflies, can genetically transfer information, like learned information, you know? And you'll see all that butterfly shit. King Charles has that butterfly on his shoulder in his weird meat picture, right? He's got a little monarch on his shoulder.

Joe Rogan 2:08:26 That's what that's about?

Kurt Metzger 2:08:27 Well, I think so. I mean, you don't gotta take my word for it. Consult your local library. Anyway, I go-

Joe Rogan 2:08:33 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 2:08:33 ... I just finally got this in the mail, but I got you one.

Joe Rogan 2:08:36 What is it?

Kurt Metzger 2:08:37 Mormon Monarch, J.R. Sweet, and he explains a lot of shit about the Mormies and the program he was in. And, uh, I fucking can't... Yo, let me put it this way. If you ever wondered what was inside of Mount Shasta, uh, it ain't the Lemurians, put it that way.

Joe Rogan 2:08:53 I don't know what you just said.

Kurt Metzger 2:08:54 You don't know about Mount Shasta shit?

Joe Rogan 2:08:56 No, I have no idea. What you just went on, the most off tangent different... Uh, if, if I had... If you just dragged me into the woods with that conversation, I would never get home.

Kurt Metzger 2:09:04 Okay. Monarch is the MKUltra continuation-

Joe Rogan 2:09:07 Right, got it.

Kurt Metzger 2:09:07 ... that we know happened.

Joe Rogan 2:09:08 Got it.

Kurt Metzger 2:09:08 It got disclosed.

Joe Rogan 2:09:09 What does that have to do with this Mormon thing-

Kurt Metzger 2:09:10 This guy was stuck in there.

Joe Rogan 2:09:12 ... and the Lemurians?

Kurt Metzger 2:09:13 Well, M- Mount Shasta was... We have a base in Mount Shasta, as you know. He has a whole chapter in there about going inside Mount Shasta.

Joe Rogan 2:09:18 I didn't know that we have a base in Mount Shasta.

Kurt Metzger 2:09:21 Wh- You ever heard of Shasta, like, just based on pure, like, UFO shit and Bigfoot shit?

Joe Rogan 2:09:26 No.

Kurt Metzger 2:09:26 It's very famous.

Joe Rogan 2:09:27 I mean, probably, I, maybe I forgot it.

Kurt Metzger 2:09:28 The famous story... Well, there's a story where a kid, like, uh, he got... His grandmother, they had bites on their neck when they woke up camping, and the kid-

Joe Rogan 2:09:36 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 2:09:36 ... he walked off with a, someb-

Joe Rogan 2:09:37 Like a vampire bite?

Kurt Metzger 2:09:40 They s- they thought it was, like, a spider or something. But this little kid, he thought it was his grandmother and he said, he goes, "I like, I like her..." his real grandma better than the mean grandma that took him and they made him shit on a sticky paper in a ca- Dude, it's crazy. I thought you already heard this story from a guest.

Joe Rogan 2:09:56 No. This is what he always does. He tells you something completely insane. He's like, "Oh, you don't know? You don't know?"

Kurt Metzger 2:10:00 Well, I learn who shows up here show alive, so like-

Joe Rogan 2:10:03 You're probably like, "Shitting on us." I was like, "I thought he heard it here." (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 2:10:05 I thought I did.

Joe Rogan 2:10:05 He might have. You might have. So, she, uh... He sh- he had a shit on something? A piece of paper?

Kurt Metzger 2:10:11 Yeah, like, like, I think there was-

Joe Rogan 2:10:13 Like, they wanted a sample?

Kurt Metzger 2:10:14 Yes.

Joe Rogan 2:10:14 A poop sample. Interesting.

Kurt Metzger 2:10:16 It's a famous... Shasta, Shasta has so much... There's a lot of cults around Shasta.

Joe Rogan 2:10:20 Really?

Kurt Metzger 2:10:21 Oh, yeah. It goes back... The, the history of it goes back a long way and a lot-

Joe Rogan 2:10:24 Why do you think that is? You think they're doing, like, mental experiments in the town on the townfolk? Like, the military's doing things?

Kurt Metzger 2:10:28 Oh, something is there in the mountain already. I don't know exactly-

Joe Rogan 2:10:32 Oh.

Kurt Metzger 2:10:32 ... what it is, but something bad is already there.

Joe Rogan 2:10:35 Like a UFO base. Do you think-

Kurt Metzger 2:10:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:10:36 ... any of the UAP shit is actual aliens?

Kurt Metzger 2:10:40 Uh, d- dude, I don't fucking know because it... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:10:44 Or actual interdimensional creatures, or-

Kurt Metzger 2:10:46 So, so let's be the most conservative and say there was never a mass mind control thing and only a few rogue psychologists planted false memories in some people's heads, right? That's what they say.

Joe Rogan 2:10:56 Right.

Kurt Metzger 2:10:57 Some bad psychologists planted fake memories of abuse in their heads. Now, you've already told me if you're saying that as the, the normal explanation. So, it's possible to do that. So, you're telling me I could, if I was a shitty psychiatrist and I had new hypnosis-

Joe Rogan 2:11:11 Right.

Kurt Metzger 2:11:12 ... I could make you think you went on a fucking secret mission to Mars and you would feel like it's real? And I could say you were satanically abused and you would have those memories as if it really happened? So, if that power is real, what are the odds that it was just a few psychologists or the United States fucking government? 'Cause I'm gonna bet on the government. Um, so there's no telling, dude, 'cause if I can probe your-

Joe Rogan 2:11:34 Right, but those two ideas aren't mutually exclusive. Like, just because the government can put, like, satanic cult ideas into your head, it doesn't mean that you haven't had an experience with some sort of interdimensional or extraterrestrial entity-

Kurt Metzger 2:11:46 That's a good point.

Joe Rogan 2:11:47 ... and that erased your memory.

Kurt Metzger 2:11:48 Hey, you don't gotta tell me and my dolphin wife about it.

Joe Rogan 2:11:50 The problem is that hypnotic regression is, like, you are open to suggestion and you have to kind of listen to what these people are saying. The w- the weird stuff is-

Kurt Metzger 2:11:58 Yes.

Joe Rogan 2:11:58 The weird stuff is the people that didn't have hypnotic regression that have the same stories as the people with hypnotic regression.

Kurt Metzger 2:12:03 Joe Mas- yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:12:04 And it's from a long ass time ago.

Kurt Metzger 2:12:05 Yeah, dude. Okay, so-

Joe Rogan 2:12:07 There's a lot of weird ones.

Kurt Metzger 2:12:08 What about, um... Okay, I got a great book by Michael Hoffman called The Twilight Language. The twilight language is in Buddhism and it, it kind of refers to a coded language, but it's NLP.

Joe Rogan 2:12:18 Oh, okay.

Kurt Metzger 2:12:18 What is NLP? I wanna talk into your subcon- So, when you see a pickup artist, so that dipshit Andrew Taint, he had a nerd pickup artist that was like his court wizard. The guy called himself Iggy Semmelweis. That's not his real name. He's some dork that would wear, like, Chinese shirts and a fedora.

Joe Rogan 2:12:34 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 2:12:35 Yeah. Yeah. And, and so Andrew Taint was a reality guy and it wasn't taking off. Then he gets this fucking hypnotist who used to be in the Rajneesh cult from Wild Wild Country, if you ever saw that.

Joe Rogan 2:12:46 Yo! I love that show.

Kurt Metzger 2:12:48 Yeah, they left out the stuff done to kids, by the way, in that cult, strangely.

Joe Rogan 2:12:51 Oh, they left that out in the documentary?

Kurt Metzger 2:12:53 They imply people were just fucking in the streets, in the, whatever this town was.

Joe Rogan 2:12:56 Uh-huh.

Kurt Metzger 2:12:57 They had kids. And, uh, if, if people are that loose with their sexuality in a hippie way there, what do you think happened with kids? Real bad stuff. And you can find those kids talking about it.

Joe Rogan 2:13:06 Oh.

Kurt Metzger 2:13:06 Why it was left out-

Joe Rogan 2:13:08 Why was it left out?

Kurt Metzger 2:13:08 My guess is, is some liberal shit about, "Oh, this might support a QAnon," right? Y- remember when you had fucking, uh, rosacea fa-

Joe Rogan 2:13:17 But, but, but the whole, the whole thing is so negative anyway.

Kurt Metzger 2:13:20 But we, we still have to keep you from believing that your leaders would do things like you've heard of Aztecs doing. Your white leaders would not do Aztec shit. That's just what, what cartels do, and Africans.

Joe Rogan 2:13:32 Yeah, but in the documentary they talk about how they poisoned the entire town.

Kurt Metzger 2:13:36 It's still not as bad as wholesale...... trafficking of children.

Joe Rogan 2:13:41 So, you think that was a part of that whole cult, was wholesale trafficking?

Kurt Metzger 2:13:44 I believe 100% that was a part of it, because if you've got a sec- a weirdo cult like that with little kids-

Joe Rogan 2:13:49 Right.

Kurt Metzger 2:13:49 ... guess who gets attracted to that?

Joe Rogan 2:13:51 I know, I understand. But why would they ever leave something like that out of a documentary? That's crazy.

Kurt Metzger 2:13:54 Because, uh, the same reason Flint Dibble can't handle the idea that there was a civilization before. "It might lead to Nazism. Nyeah, eh," rosacea. That little creep, Flint Dibble.

Joe Rogan 2:14:05 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 2:14:05 Do you understand how these people are? They think that you're not...

Joe Rogan 2:14:10 (laughs)

Kurt Metzger 2:14:10 But you might get the wrong idea and distrust authority if you think... So, because they don't want to start a satanic panic, right? They will purposely deny shit, like good liberals do. And by the way, the consor- ... If you're like, "Who cares about Epstein?" What are you talking about, dude? Why would