The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #2436 - Whitney Cummings
EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,035 words- 0:00 – 0:02
Intro
- JRJoe Rogan
[upbeat music]
- 0:02 – 2:05
Dice’s unlit cigarette and the era of candy cigarettes
- JRJoe Rogan
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
- WCWhitney Cummings
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. [upbeat music]
- WCWhitney Cummings
So that's just for Dice to hold?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, he just holds onto them. Oh! And he, m- he holds onto them, and then he swaps them out for a new one.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Was the unlit cigarette, like, the original fidget spinner?
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughing]
- WCWhitney Cummings
Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, most people don't do it, because most people, when they have a cigarette in their hand, they wanna light it.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
But Dice has got the ability to just hold onto the cigarette.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Do you remember when candy cigarettes were a toy for kids?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I had those.
- WCWhitney Cummings
[laughing] You do right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, they were priming you.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Totally, and they would poof, like, sugar would come out.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I don't remember that.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, yeah, you'd go [exhaling] and, like, powdered sugar would come out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah. Am I right, Jamie? Am I making that up?
- JRJoe Rogan
I remember them just being like a candy that you sucked on.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Or was that just the cocaine-
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, just a stick
- WCWhitney Cummings
... my parents put on it? [laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it was just a candy stick.
- SPSpeaker
Nasty chalk stick. I remember them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe there was, maybe there was a different one. Maybe there's more than one kind of candy cigarette.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Couldn't you... There was, like, gummy cigars, I remember, and then the candy cigarettes. That must have been them just trying to get you addicted to just, like, the motion of it or, like, participate with your parents or something.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it was just a way to sell candy, but probably also engineered by the tobacco companies.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Right.
- 2:05 – 3:33
Dangerous kid behavior: licking 9-volts, sockets, glue, and hot glue guns
- WCWhitney Cummings
As kids, we would suck on actual batteries if we, if we wanted to kill ourselves.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughing] Oh, yeah. Remember when you lick them?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Dude, we would just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, uh.
- WCWhitney Cummings
-to try to electrocute [laughing] the square one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just the nine volts?
- WCWhitney Cummings
[laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, the nine volts.
- WCWhitney Cummings
We'd be in school just like, "Lick it, lick, lick it." [laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, we would lick it just to get a jolt in your tongue. Ah, ooh!
- WCWhitney Cummings
[laughing] It is, it is wild how, like... Like, yes, the phones are obviously very bad for kids, but when you think about the stuff we did as kids, I was just like-- I would just hang out with a light socket for, like, two hours. It's all I needed, a paperclip, light socket, like, it's a m-
- JRJoe Rogan
Light socket?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Or like a... Yeah, the, uh, the, the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Electric socket?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Electric socket.
- JRJoe Rogan
You would go into an electric socket with a paper clip?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Did no one else do this? [laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
That's really bad.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Did you inhale glue or no?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I sniffed it.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Rubber cement?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Okay, good. I'm like, uh, okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I used to love making models. I used to make, like, Godzilla models. You know, those-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, with glue!
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you remember those models? Yeah, you had rubber cement glue.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you remember those?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, yeah. You would... I mean, Elmer's, too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 3:33 – 6:15
When toys were weapons: lawn darts, seesaws, trampolines, and radioactive kits
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they weren't looking out for kids back then. Like, when did they start, like, worrying about dangerous toys?
- WCWhitney Cummings
I th- I mean, I- after, like, the 50th lawn dart, you know, aorta puncture, like- [laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I remember the lawn darts. Those were crazy.
- WCWhitney Cummings
You're just throwing like-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a fucking weapon, and they were heavy.
- WCWhitney Cummings
[laughing] Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
If they hit you in the head, you would die. [laughing]
- WCWhitney Cummings
Dude, just like tetanus, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right in the heart
- WCWhitney Cummings
... like, [laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's, let's look this up. How many people do you think have died from lawn darts?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Lawn darts. [laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
It has to be-
- WCWhitney Cummings
By the way, way more than is reported, for sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right, right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I'm just putting this here so I don't-
- JRJoe Rogan
It has to be dozens.
- WCWhitney Cummings
And seesaws.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, yeah, seesaws-
- WCWhitney Cummings
You remember seesaws?
- JRJoe Rogan
... fucked a lot of people up.
- WCWhitney Cummings
No seatbelt, no-
- JRJoe Rogan
No
- WCWhitney Cummings
... just, just plywood-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right
- WCWhitney Cummings
... with handles.
- JRJoe Rogan
With a handle.
- WCWhitney Cummings
But we would also... It's such a testament to our nature, 'cause we would make it even more dangerous. Like, remember, like, you'd be on the seesaw, like, if you were up, I would- You'd, like, jump off it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah
- WCWhitney Cummings
... to watch the kid just-
- 6:15 – 7:47
Sudafed IDs, Adderall culture, and AI-written journalism
- WCWhitney Cummings
Well, I went to get, um, uh, NyQuil or Sudafed the other day-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm
- WCWhitney Cummings
... and they made me show my ID.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, 'cause you can make meth with it.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Right. Right, right, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Sick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Meanwhile, you can get a prescription for Adderall if you just say you have ADHD.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I don't even think you have to do that. You just have to be like: "I'm bored."... Right. [laughs] I'm neurodivergent.
- JRJoe Rogan
That just gave it to you.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. You, I m- I mean, it's all self-diagnosed. You know, I just can't concentrate.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Are we gonna look back the way that we look at, like, you know, the Nazis and go like, "They were on meth"? Are we gonna look back in, like, 20 years and be like, "Everyone was on meth," just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, everyone's on Adderall-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm
- JRJoe Rogan
... that's for damn sure.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Is really?
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, the amount of journalists that are on Adderall is off the charts.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
A friend of mine was telling me, like, all of his colleagues take Adderall.
- WCWhitney Cummings
To f- uh, uh, to-
- JRJoe Rogan
Help them work.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause they have so many projects that they're doing that require intense fucking research, and they're, you know-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Googling. S-
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- WCWhitney Cummings
Saying, "ChatGPT, please write my article for me." Did you see, I think it was the New York Times, or someone left in... Uh, Jamie, uh, do you remember s- the prompt that ends the, you know, what it spits out on ChatGPT?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, God!
- WCWhitney Cummings
To prove that they had just copy and pasted it? Like, wild.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, there's a lot of that. There's a lot of shitty people in every walk of life. There's bad doctors, bad plumbers-
- 7:47 – 9:37
ADHD as ‘can’t focus on boring things’ and what school optimizes for
- WCWhitney Cummings
But if you really do have ADD or whatever this is... Like, I'm the first to say, like, "What are all these diagnoses?" I, um, but... 'Cause I was prescribed five milligrams slow-release Adderall to sleep.
- JRJoe Rogan
To sleep?
- WCWhitney Cummings
If you actually have it, it calms you down. It doesn't amp you up.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is it? What is it-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, um, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
... ADHD?
- WCWhitney Cummings
The inability to focus, or the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that real?
- WCWhitney Cummings
... a busy brain. I, I, dude, I, uh, look, I just, I think a lot of our superpowers are being dull. A lot of people's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh
- WCWhitney Cummings
... superpowers are being dulled by pharma, and we're being pathologized for actually kind of extreme strengths, you know, in a lot of ways. So-
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a lot of, like, legitimate people that are arguing that about ADHD.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Okay, good. I'm not like a-
- JRJoe Rogan
No
- WCWhitney Cummings
... nut.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, legitimate psychologists, neuroscientists, the, the, the- it's what it is, is you can't concentrate on things you're not interested in, but you can concentrate on things you're interested in, like, heavily. Like-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
If people that are- that supposedly have ADHD, they can play video games for fucking 10 hours a day.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's right. That's exactly right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, how come? Because it's exciting.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, they can't sit in a classroom and watch some pedophile lecture them-
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- WCWhitney Cummings
... on fake history while they're getting haemorrhoids in some, like, chair-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah
- WCWhitney Cummings
... with, like, fl- shitty lighting above them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I mean, it's like, yeah, of course, kids are bored. Of course, they can't sit still.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- WCWhitney Cummings
You know? Well, it was- I was reading about how Finland, they don't, um, uh, teach their kids to read until they're, like, seven because, uh, it's better to have them develop their ability to focus first on the things they wanna do, so by the time they do learn to read, they actually, you know, can focus.
- JRJoe Rogan
That sounds like a terrible idea. You're gonna be so far behind my kids.
- 9:37 – 11:30
U2 forced onto iPhones, overexposure, and the new ad backlash
- WCWhitney Cummings
Do I even teach them Mandarin, or is that just gonna be like... Remember when U2 just put a song on our phone? [chuckles]
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That was so weird.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that was Apple's idea, and, you know, I talked to Bono about that. He was... You know, it, it was devastating for them-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm
- JRJoe Rogan
... 'cause all of a sudden, everyone hated U2.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
They used to love U2.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They had so many hits. They're so good, and then all of a sudden, "Fuck you! Why are you on my phone?"
- WCWhitney Cummings
Isn't that interesting, the human nature of I love something, unless you force it on me?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, it's just people are always looking for a reason to complain.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And if, uh, you have this song on your phone-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm
- JRJoe Rogan
... right away, like, "Hey, fuck these guys."
- WCWhitney Cummings
But also, I wanna hunt. Let me find it. Let me feel like I discovered something.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I think they just thought it would be a great way to promote this new album.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they just really didn't understand human nature.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's also... Yeah, it used to be like, if you saw five billboards for something, you're like, "I gotta see that movie." Now, you see, like, five ads for it, and you're like, "Why are you trying so hard?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Like, if it's good, I'll hear about it.
- JRJoe Rogan
[lips smack] Yeah, I try to tell that to my friends, like, "Do not get overexposed."
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, there's a re- uh, uh, I mean, I don't just say no to everything because I'm not interested in doing anything more.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's also because I'm clearly overexposed, and you gotta know when you're overexposed. But I have friends that, like, they'll do every fucking interview that anybody asks.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They'll do every project that comes up.
- 11:30 – 13:48
Comics, memes, and the economics of stealing jokes
- WCWhitney Cummings
... I think especially as a comic now, there's a lot of funny people out there. I think if we've learned anything from memes and stuff, you're like, I don't... This guy just works at Best Buy, and he-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right
- WCWhitney Cummings
... who, who made this meme?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
This is hilarious, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I think in the beginning, a lot of it was, like, stolen from comics. Remember, like, that fat Jewish dude in-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. Whatever happened to that guy?
- WCWhitney Cummings
There was another one, too. I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
But he was stealing memes, or he was stealing jokes-
- WCWhitney Cummings
I think it was-
- JRJoe Rogan
... and turning them into memes?
- WCWhitney Cummings
There was a couple where you would go, like, "That's a Mitch Hedberg joke."
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Like, "That's definitely a Steven Wright joke or Dimitri or something," but like Zach Galifianakis, or it would be, um, lesser-known comics. You know, like, they'd go to a lesser-known comic feed, like people that wrote for-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm
- WCWhitney Cummings
... Fallon or Leno-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right
- WCWhitney Cummings
... you know, and then-
- JRJoe Rogan
Go to a showcase night at the store.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Or, like, get their tweets. You can just pull their tweets and change them a little bit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Whatever happened to that guy? 'Cause he was hated. Boy, when he got- started getting exposed-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm
- JRJoe Rogan
... he was hated, and then he just kind of vanished.
- WCWhitney Cummings
There was another one.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was huge for a while.
- WCWhitney Cummings
There was a- there was another one, too, and I don't remember the name of it, um, that was doing the same exact thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
But the fat Jewish guy almost seemed like he was, like, a corporate-created entity-
- WCWhitney Cummings
He had, like, a-
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause the, like, the crazy hair, right? That weird fucking bun.
- 13:48 – 18:42
Rainey Street deaths, moral panics, and ‘what will we regret in 50 years?’
- WCWhitney Cummings
Dude, your boy Brandon o- over here, I was like: What's up with the Rainey Street Killer? I always want, like, the updates on the Austin serial killer who's pushing gay dudes off bridges. And he said, uh, he's like: I think it's tech, tech guys. They come down from San Francisco during South by Southwest, and he strikes when it's, like, a tech conference.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- WCWhitney Cummings
And he doesn't live here. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're trying to pretend that it's, it's not really a serial killer. The cops wanna say it's not really a serial killer, and like, that- how many guys have to drown before you start getting nervous?
- WCWhitney Cummings
So they're only gay, that these guys?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's a gay neighborhood. That's the thing. Not all of Rainey Street, but there's a lot of, like, gay bars and gay spots on Rainey Street.
- WCWhitney Cummings
How do the cops know the victims are gay? They just like-
- JRJoe Rogan
They smell 'em.
- WCWhitney Cummings
[laughing] They just, they just-
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughing]
- WCWhitney Cummings
... check their assholes. They're like: "Hey, like, I fucked his- I fucked the corpse's asshole. He's gay." Uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
They bring a dilator.
- WCWhitney Cummings
[laughing] You know, I've seen that guy on Grindr. He is gay. Uh, that reminds me of, um, like, the Nazi- [sighs] it's been 10 minutes, and I've brought up Nazis twice. Um, the, that Nazis also killed gay people, and like, I'm obsessed with how there were Nazis that had to find out who was gay. [tsking]
- JRJoe Rogan
So did Christians.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course. It's in the Bible.
- WCWhitney Cummings
To be like: I just fucked these guys. They are gay. Let's get 'em.
- JRJoe Rogan
In the old days, in the Bible, if a man lieth with another man, you're supposed to be put to death.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That means, like, someone signed up to be like: I'll do it. I'll, I'll investigate who's gay around here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the thing is, though, they were all gay.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the crazy thing. Like, if you go back in history, guys were fucking each other all the time.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There was a... The Spartans did it. They had a philosophy that you would defend your lover more because, like, if you were fighting alongside a man that you loved, you would defend him more.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Was it love?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Is that what love is?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I'm still trying to figure it out. [laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
Everybody's got their own definition for that. Like, what is it?
- 18:42 – 26:28
Food pyramid whiplash, cereal origins, and the ‘anti-masturbation’ Kellogg myth
- JRJoe Rogan
Andrew Huberman was having a conversation with a, a professor at Stanford, and he said: What percentage of what's in medical journals and what's taught in school is no longer applicable? He said at least 50%.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Unbelievable.
- JRJoe Rogan
At least 50% of the stuff that they were telling people... Like, look, they just turned the food pyramid upside down yesterday.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Crazy. Well, uh, the food pyramid, not only did it used to just be like-... like, brand muffins. M- it was just [laughing] -
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughing] It was rice.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Just like Bear Claw. Like, what the fuck? Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you need spaghetti.
- WCWhitney Cummings
[laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
That's number one. SpaghettiOs is at the base.
- WCWhitney Cummings
[laughing] It was so crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ravioli's slightly above that.
- WCWhitney Cummings
[laughing] And remember they had just had a fish with, like, eyeballs, like what?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's actually probably a good one now, but, um-
- JRJoe Rogan
But at the top, you know, now, like, the littlest amount of stuff you're supposed to get is grains-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm
- JRJoe Rogan
... and you're supposed to get meat-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm
- JRJoe Rogan
... and eggs at the bottom, which was always... I mean, look, there was a study that was l- like widely criticized fairly recently, that labeled Froot Loops as being healthier than ground beef. [chuckles]
- WCWhitney Cummings
But who sponsored that study?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the thing about all these things. It's like, who are these people, and can I see them naked?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, i- that's it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Take your fucking clothes off. Let me see what you look like.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's my sa- same thing about quotes. You know how, like, we're in this quote culture, where you'll just, like, and you probably don't have this in your algorithm, but it's like inspiring quotes, and I'm like: I need to know who said it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I need to know who said it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, a lot of times it's fake.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
You'll, you'll see quotes-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Of course
- 26:28 – 51:08
Plant toxins, pesticides, glyphosate wine, and craving-based pregnancy eating
- JRJoe Rogan
Hormetic effect, or-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Right
- JRJoe Rogan
... so the hormetic effect is like, there's a, an argument with certain foods, right? There's an argument against certain foods, like that they have, uh, phytochemicals in them.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So what they have is, like, an actual toxin that discourages predation.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right? But some of that is actually has a, a hormetic effect-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm
- JRJoe Rogan
... and it's actually good for you. Like, uh, what's a good one? Uh, broccoli sprouts. You know, what does that have? Pho- phosphorifa- what is it?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is the word? [clears throat] I can't remember the, the be-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Photosynthesis-
- JRJoe Rogan
... beneficial
- WCWhitney Cummings
... something.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, photosynthesis is how they convert sunlight into food.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Sun- but like when you're doing good stress-
- JRJoe Rogan
What's the word?
- WCWhitney Cummings
... like exercise, and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Sulforaphane? Is that what it is.
- SPSpeaker
Sulforaphane. Yeah, I think you just said it as I was... I think that's the word.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it's sulforaphane.
- SPSpeaker
Is that it right there on the screen? [clears throat]
- WCWhitney Cummings
Sulforaphane.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, sulforaphane, "A plant compound formed when you chew or chop broccoli sprouts, which activates an enzyme that converts-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, wow
- JRJoe Rogan
... a precursor called, uh, glucoraphanin into sulforaphane. Broccoli sprouts have far higher levels of gluco... glu- glucoraphanin, glucoraphanin, in mature, than mature broccoli, which is why they are such a concentrated source of sulforaphane."
- WCWhitney Cummings
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
[clears throat]
- WCWhitney Cummings
So you're eating the plant's stress?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- 51:08 – 1:01:25
Charity as a racket: Fire Aid spending, USAID, and ‘too dirty for the CIA’ NGOs
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, I just sent it to you, Jamie. So the House Judiciary Committee-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm
- JRJoe Rogan
... released a report, um, on the LA Fire Aid concert. Among the findings, Fire Aid was used- I mean, this is gonna [coughs] I'm sorry.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know why I'm coughing. Fire Aid was used for activities such as voter participation initiatives, podcasts, they gave $100,000 to podcasters. Approximately $550,000 in donations went to organizations involved in political advocacy.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Well, that's money laundering. That's just money laundering.
- JRJoe Rogan
Five hundred and fifty thousand dollars out of 100 million. Um, $250,000 was directed towards-
- WCWhitney Cummings
[laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
... programs benefiting undocumented immigrants. Look at this, $100,000 to podcasters.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Sure, sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
I wanna know who the fuck the podcasters were that got 100 grand.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, what are you talking about? Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, what does that mean? Like, what did- did they prevent fires with that money? Five hundred thousand dollars was used to cover salaries, bonuses. Imagine you got a bonus 'cause there was a fire. Consultant fees for nonprofit organizations.
- WCWhitney Cummings
But if it's a nonprofit, why are you giving it money- [coughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
...
- WCWhitney Cummings
-to profit?
- JRJoe Rogan
And why are you giving them bonuses? Half a million dollars. Okay, uh, many worthy nonprofits did receive grants that were used to support victims. This p- report provides lessons t- for the distribution of, uh, or the disbursement, rather, of any remaining Fire Aid funds. Go down lower, 'cause it keeps going.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's a good racket. Everyone I know that works-
- JRJoe Rogan
[clears throat]
- WCWhitney Cummings
... with a charity has, like, two houses. Like, good for them, 'cause they don't have to pay taxes either.
- JRJoe Rogan
There, there's, m- sorry, there's more where they, they laid all this stuff out. So this is, uh, Kevin Kiley, who is... What is his, um... Congressman from California.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So he's, he's outlining this, 'cause he tried to look it up. It's fucking crazy. [coughs] But, I mean, some of that is fucking criminal.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
The, the... This, this one drives me nuts: organizations involved in political advoc- advocacy, half a fucking million dollars.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Why is anyone advocating for politics? Like, what does that even mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's, it's just stealing money.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's right. That's just money laundering. That's all it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's just stealing money.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Wait, fungus-planting projects. What?
- 1:01:25 – 1:17:03
Misinformation in the outrage economy: staged videos, partisan sites, and verification
- WCWhitney Cummings
He's trying to cover the car with his body?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, let's s- pu- pull back, and let's, let's hear what he says in the beginning of this, 'cause-
- WCWhitney Cummings
I mean, with all that money, maybe buy some Ozempic too, homie.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
He's eating good.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let me hear what he says.
- SPSpeaker
... Ever since Nick Shirley has done his reporting in Minnesota, we have Iranian daycare centers in California. Over here we have 1412 South Crescent Heights, Creative Children Academy. Nobody has come in or out of this facility in nine months. Every window is just boarded up.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, 'cause no one in LA has kids. [laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at this Rolls-Royce!
- SPSpeaker
The owner of this property. Jamshid-
- JRJoe Rogan
Where's the money, Jamshid?
- WCWhitney Cummings
The way the door opens is so funny. [chuckles]
- SPSpeaker
$14 million for just one facility.
- JRJoe Rogan
Where'd you get this car from?
- SPSpeaker
I just don't understand. How did you get-
- JRJoe Rogan
Where'd you buy the property?
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, did you win the lottery?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's, that's assault. Don't touch me. This looks fake.
- SPSpeaker
Don't touch me.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It really does.
- SPSpeaker
Honestly, it looks fake as shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
It looks fake as shit. This looks, like, completely staged. The, just the way he walks up and grabs the car. What... When you saw people with cameras-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm
- JRJoe Rogan
... and you've, you've got a convertible Rolls-Royce car-
- WCWhitney Cummings
You would turn around, I think. You would just turn around and leave.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's just too convenient. There's no one there. Why is he there with the car?
- WCWhitney Cummings
He parks right out front.
- JRJoe Rogan
That looks fake.
- 1:17:03 – 1:29:34
Doomsday plane, Venezuela raid talk, Iran history, and resource obsessions after parenting
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Did you see the Doomsday Plane?
- JRJoe Rogan
What's the Doomsday Plane?
- WCWhitney Cummings
The Doomsday Plane, that... I mean, could just be a psyop, but it's, uh, uh, the Doomsday Plane. I think it went to California, the one that is in case of a nuclear event. It can hold, uh, stay in the sky for a couple days and-
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- WCWhitney Cummings
... self-refuel. Oh, damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's made my nipples hard just looking at it.
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's gorgeous. Jamie-
- JRJoe Rogan
Doomsday Plane?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Jamie, can you pull up this Doomsday Plane so people, uh, listening don't think I'm Roseanne? Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughing] Doomsday, Trump's Doomsday E-4B Plane sighted in Washington and Los Angeles-
- WCWhitney Cummings
But the-
- JRJoe Rogan
... days after Maduro capture.
- WCWhitney Cummings
But get that pretty picture up of it. I mean, that... It looks just-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a terrible picture.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, that just looks like a-
- JRJoe Rogan
How is that the only picture?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, that looks-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's them sighting it.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
But go back to the art- oh, that's okay.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Ah, look at this thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
[exhales] Hmm, that's the Doomsday Plane?
- WCWhitney Cummings
I don't know if it's that. Isn't that the top one-
- JRJoe Rogan
They're all different
- WCWhitney Cummings
... with the blue stripe?
- JRJoe Rogan
[sniffs] That's... Wait a minute, they're all different.
- SPSpeaker
Well, this is when they're selling it from Northrop Grumman, so anybody can buy it, and then you get it in America, there's logos on it, so.
- 1:29:34 – 2:13:03
New York housing ideology, carriage horses, and the appeal of hard work and self-sufficiency
- WCWhitney Cummings
But he said he would stop the carriage horses, so I'm all for it.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm kind of down with that.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, me too.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think that's fucked up.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's disgusting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Those horses do not need to be wandering around New York City, sniffing fucking brake dust-
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's disgusting
- JRJoe Rogan
... carrying assholes around.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's disgusting. I mean, it's, uh... You know, you know me and my, like, uh, horse thing. Uh, but it's, it's so disgusting, and, you know, the amount-- it's like nobody knows how many elephants kill their trainers a year, and how many... You know, the, all kinds of cra- we saw the orca kill the trainer, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
But stuff like that happens so often, and they just cover it up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure.
- WCWhitney Cummings
But the amount of, of carriage horses, a couple of them got out. Um, and we've seen them get out, and we've seen them collapse, and all this horrific stuff. And, um, something else is going on with it, which is... And look, I'm, [chuckles] I'm the first person to say, like, New York was really safe when the mafia was, [laughing] you know, kind of like there's that documentary about how they would sort of protect people in the subways, and sort of would fill in where the government couldn't. Um, but there's something going on with the horse carriage business. A horse got out, who was 29 years old. Archie was his name.
- JRJoe Rogan
29-
- WCWhitney Cummings
29
- JRJoe Rogan
... years old for a horse.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah. Yeah, it only had a couple more years. And I tried to negotiate with them, got a bunch of friends that have, like, FU money, and basically said: "You're gonna get $38,000 cash." This was a horse that's pretty much done.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
"Cash. We'll take the horse in the middle of the night. No social media, nothing." And they said no. The amount of money they're making is so insane, and it's mostly-
- JRJoe Rogan
From horse-drawn carriages?
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's mostly tourists, honestly, from-
- JRJoe Rogan
They make that much money from horse-drawn carriages?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Tons. Tons. From other countries, of people that have different ideas of animal, uh, respect towards animals than we do.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, so it's mostly foreigners riding in the horse-drawn carriages?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, I don't think it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
I've seen a lot of white people in those things.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, really? Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah
- WCWhitney Cummings
... Polish people can be white.
- JRJoe Rogan
A lot of silly-
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