Joe Rogan Experience #2442 - Ehsan Ahmad

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!…

   1. SPSpeaker0:02

      Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!

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      The Joe Rogan Experience.

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      Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. [upbeat music]

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Hey, fella.

   5. EAEhsan Ahmad0:13

      Hey.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      What's going on, brother? [chuckles]

   7. EAEhsan Ahmad0:14

      Good to be back, Joe.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Good to see you, as always.

   9. EAEhsan Ahmad0:16

      Yeah. This time, [chuckles] this time I have something to, like, actually promote.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       Well, you're always promoting, so I mean, any kind of appearance is sort of a promotion-

   11. EAEhsan Ahmad0:26

       Correct

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       ... 'cause you're promoting the g- the audience gets to see you.

   13. EAEhsan Ahmad0:29

       Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Right?

   15. EAEhsan Ahmad0:30

       Right. You know, it just, it was so funny 'cause it got me thinking... So I, I started watching Patrice's O- Opie and Anthony appearances-

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Ah

   17. EAEhsan Ahmad0:37

       ... 'cause there's a list of them on Spotify. And what was so funny to me was, like, [chuckles] the... You know how they have these, like, these group of, like, mentally disabled people that they kind of fuck with?

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Opie and Anthony?

   19. EAEhsan Ahmad0:48

       Yeah, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Oh, yeah. That was rough.

   21. EAEhsan Ahmad0:49

       Like a carousel, and it's like k- it's, like, kind of mean. [chuckles]

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       It's kind of horrible.

   23. EAEhsan Ahmad0:53

       Yeah, [chuckles] it's kind of like, ooh, I'm kind of glad we're past that. But- [chuckles]

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       [chuckles]

   25. EAEhsan Ahmad0:57

       ... wh- what made me laugh is every single one of them, at the end of the thing, was like, "And here's my website." [laughing] Like, I had a website. And I was like, damn, I've been on the Joe Rogan Experience twice, and I don't even have a website. [chuckles]

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       You didn't have a website?

   27. EAEhsan Ahmad1:09

       I didn't have a website. This is the first time I had a website.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       Wow! How did... What did you do? Did you make it yourself?

   29. EAEhsan Ahmad1:14

       Uh, no, I fi- Yeah, I realized, like, oh, I just gotta pay people to do stuff like that. That's out of my wheelhouse of, like, things I can do. [chuckles] Ironically, I'm terrible with technology for a guy who looks like me.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       Ironically.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah, yeah, [chuckles] 'cause-…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      number... Put that in there, Jamie. What's the estimated number of illegals in California? I don't know where I'd be without this kind of shit, man.

   2. EAEhsan Ahmad15:06

      Yeah, yeah, [chuckles] 'cause-

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      I'm so hooked on using, like, Perplexity-

   4. EAEhsan Ahmad15:09

      Oh, dude

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      ... for any question I have, all throughout the day. It's like my smart friend.

   6. EAEhsan Ahmad15:13

      It's like better Wikipedia, 'cause it can really, like-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      Yeah

   8. EAEhsan Ahmad15:16

      ... you can use it as, like-

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:17

      Way better than Wikipedia.

   10. EAEhsan Ahmad15:18

       Yeah, 'cause you can ask it questions.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       It scans the entire internet, and sometimes it does catch some bullshit articles in there-

   12. EAEhsan Ahmad15:23

       Mm

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       ... and says, "It might be this." And you're like, "Wait a minute, what? Let me go to that article."

   14. EAEhsan Ahmad15:27

       Mm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       "That might be bullshit." 'Cause it's only pulling from the internet, right?

   16. EAEhsan Ahmad15:30

       Undocumented, 2.8 million in 2007. It's... Well, yeah, that, that, that would be around two seats, right? 'Cause there's, like, 30 million in California.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Something like that.

   18. EAEhsan Ahmad15:39

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Yeah.

   20. EAEhsan Ahmad15:40

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       That makes a difference. And then you do the same thing in Seattle, you do the same thing in wherever, you know, places you have massive numbers of undocumented people. Cal- um, [tsks] uh, Ohio is a big one. You know, this is one of the reasons why they had this thing where, like, why are there so many Haitians in Ohio? Well, what do you think?

   22. EAEhsan Ahmad15:59

       Mm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Think they just decided that Ohio's a spot, and they all had a group WhatsApp chat?

   24. EAEhsan Ahmad16:03

       [laughing] Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       And they all went there. No, probably somebody's moving them there-

   26. EAEhsan Ahmad16:06

       Yeah

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       ... 'cause it's a swing state.

   28. EAEhsan Ahmad16:07

       It was, it was funny when it w- the Somalian thing, when, uh, when Waltz was like, "This is white supremacy."

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       It was crazy.

   30. EAEhsan Ahmad16:14

       Everybody's like, "Hey, but, but then who's the most supreme white man in the state, Governor?"
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Mm.…

   1. SPSpeaker30:00

      people were protected by the 2008 non-prosecution agreement-

   2. EAEhsan Ahmad30:04

      Mm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Mm!

   4. SPSpeaker30:04

      ... his original federal prosecution.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Oh, that's little slap on the wrist protected a bunch of people.

   6. EAEhsan Ahmad30:09

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      And so they continued to be protected, is that the idea?

   8. SPSpeaker30:12

      Uh, that's where... No, I don't know if anybody knows if they were-

   9. EAEhsan Ahmad30:15

      Mm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       Mm.

   11. EAEhsan Ahmad30:15

       Nothing's better in law than a technicality, huh? [laughing]

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       Ooh, that's a slippery one.

   13. SPSpeaker30:19

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       So, uh, what did Epstein's brother wind up saying?

   15. EAEhsan Ahmad30:22

       He said it wasn't Bubba, and then, which, which implied that he knew th- he knew exactly what was going on on the island the whole time, and is just out and about.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       But he's still saying that Trump sum- sucked someone's dick? That's-

   17. EAEhsan Ahmad30:31

       Yeah. [laughing] Yeah. And then he just straight up disappeared. [laughing] ... Oh, [laughs] we just learned about him!

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       Man, I believe a lot of things. I do not believe Trump sucked someone's dick.

   19. EAEhsan Ahmad30:44

       [laughing]

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       'Cause he doesn't do drugs, you know what I mean? When Charlie Sheen was saying he sucked some guy's dick, like, okay, Charlie was doing so much crack-

   21. EAEhsan Ahmad30:52

       [laughs]

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       ... he was out of his fucking mind.

   23. EAEhsan Ahmad30:53

       I, I feel like that level of power is a drug at that, [chuckles] at that point.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       Ah!

   25. EAEhsan Ahmad30:56

       [laughs]

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       I know, I mean, maybe. I don't think so. I don't know.

   27. EAEhsan Ahmad31:00

       It's a v- it's a very fun world to believe, I think.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       I don't think it's gonna get a guy like Trump to suck a dick. It just doesn't seem-

   29. EAEhsan Ahmad31:04

       [chuckles]

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       That's a guy who's fucked up on drugs. That's like when Diddy was doing it-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm. Well, it certainly is.…

   1. EAEhsan Ahmad45:00

      like I felt m- m- my material was, like, battle-tested.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      Mm. Well, it certainly is.

   3. EAEhsan Ahmad45:05

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      I mean, that's, that's... The running with weights is a great analogy-

   5. EAEhsan Ahmad45:08

      Mm-hmm

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      ... 'cause I think that's exactly what it is.

   7. EAEhsan Ahmad45:10

      Yeah, it ma- it makes the jokes so much stronger.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      You know what else is really good for your act is, uh, hosting.

   9. EAEhsan Ahmad45:16

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:16

       'Cause you go up so often. Like, one of the things that really helped a lot of guys at The Store was hosting Potluck.

   11. EAEhsan Ahmad45:22

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:22

       'Cause, you know, you have to... There's all this chaos.

   13. EAEhsan Ahmad45:26

       Mm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:26

       Someone just bombed.

   15. EAEhsan Ahmad45:27

       Mm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:27

       Something crazy just happened. Someone just did something completely fucking insane. You have a chance to make fun of it and-

   17. EAEhsan Ahmad45:33

       Reset the room

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:34

       ... reset the room.

   19. EAEhsan Ahmad45:35

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       And there's a comfort level that comes out, 'cause you're essentially doing stand-up from 8:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m.

   21. EAEhsan Ahmad45:41

       Yes. Yeah, when, when I first started do- w- uh, when I lived in... First was a door guy in Hollywood. Deric was booking the Madhouse, and I would come down and host the weekend shows. So every day, I'd host from... Every weekend or two weekends a month, I would host from 5:00 to 2:00 in the morning, 'cause you'd host the open mic afterwards.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       Uh-huh.

   23. EAEhsan Ahmad45:57

       And you'd just host the entire night, so a full day's worth of hosting.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       That's awesome.

   25. EAEhsan Ahmad46:01

       Yeah, it's like, it's, it's... 'Cause the opening spots suck, but, like, they make you better. It's the ones that suck that make you better.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:08

       It's definitely...

   27. EAEhsan Ahmad46:09

       Mm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       Well, you realize, like, where the sloppy parts of your bits are.

   29. EAEhsan Ahmad46:12

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       Where, like, you're saying them, you're like, "Ew."
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   [chuckles]…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      the people are exceptional-

   2. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:01

      [chuckles]

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      ... at their job that agree you should have specific categories of race or gender replace meritocracy.

   4. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:06

      Right. Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      No one really good, male or female, Black, white, Asian, whatever, no one really good at their job wants that.

   6. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:14

      No, no, 'cause that just gets in the way-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      It gets in the way

   8. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:16

      ... of the job. It's like, I have to, like, work a- worry about this social score?

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

      Yeah.

   10. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:20

       Yeah, that. [chuckles]

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       Yeah.

   12. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:21

       But-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       Fuck off

   14. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:22

       ... that's kind of what we're, like, heading towards, right?

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

       Well, it's less now-

   16. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:24

       Some sort of social

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       ... with Trump in o- in office. There was a guy who was a CEO of some company that was talking about the gigantic shift in dealing with the government that had occurred right after Trump took office.

   18. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:33

       Mm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       He was like, "It was instantaneous," like, all the restrictions, regulations, and... This is one of the problems with California in particular. It's incredibly over-regulated, so it's really difficult to do anything, which is one of the reasons why so few people have even begun attempting to rebuild their fucking house.

   20. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:49

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       There's regulations everywhere for everything. It's just over-regulated.

   22. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:53

       Well, didn't the government buy a lot of that land, or are they trying to buy that land right now-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       [exhales]

   24. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:56

       ... in the Palisades?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       [exhales] It's... I don't think it's government.

   26. EAEhsan Ahmad1:00:59

       Mm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       I think there was people that were, uh, interested in doing, like, low-income housing, and then there was, like, whether they were gonna carve out things. Now there's speculators, and there was that famous video of Newsom standing in front of the rubble of a burning house going, "There's been some discussions."

   28. EAEhsan Ahmad1:01:16

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

       He's doing that little dance.

   30. EAEhsan Ahmad1:01:17

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:30:00

   [chuckles]…

   1. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:00

      die is when someone says your name last-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:15:01

      [chuckles]

   3. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:01

      ... so we're just keeping him alive.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:15:02

      He acquired it from the Jesuit college-

   5. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:04

      Mm

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:15:04

      ... uh, in Frans- Frascasi- Frascati, Italy, as a part of a batch of 30 manuscripts discreetly sold mix- amidst the Jesuits' financial difficulties. How many of these motherfuckers in the Vatican are sitting on some shit-

   7. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:18

      Uh, [chuckles]

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:15:18

      ... that they don't have to sell?

   9. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:20

      Oh, yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:15:20

       That would, like, change-

   11. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:21

       Change the world completely

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:15:23

       ... change the world?

   13. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:23

       Yeah. [chuckles]

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:15:23

       Carbon dating places its creation around 1404 to 1438, likely in northern Italy. Emperor Rudolph II bought it in the late 1500s for 600 gold ducats, possibly from John Dee. It later passed to Jacobus. How about this guy's name? Jacobus Horck- Horcicky de Depenens?

   15. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:46

       Yeah, this is-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:15:47

       Depen-

   17. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:48

       ... Eastern European stuff. That feels like-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:15:49

       Depenex? But you can't even-

   19. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:51

       It looks like Hungarian.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:15:51

       The problem is, like, there's some names, like Joana Janjek, if you saw the way it's w- written-

   21. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:56

       Oh, no

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:15:56

       ... there's no way you would pronounce it correctly.

   23. EAEhsan Ahmad1:15:57

       Any of those Eastern European names, it's like, it's like, how did you even get that?

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:16:01

       Stayed in Jesuit hands until 1912.

   25. EAEhsan Ahmad1:16:04

       Mm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:16:04

       He publicized the undeciphered codex, now at Yale's Be- Beinecke, Beinecke Library, sparking global interest despite failed decoding attempts. Um, pull up some images of it-

   27. EAEhsan Ahmad1:16:16

       Mm

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:16:16

       ... so you can get, see what it looks like. It's real weird, man. It's real weird, and it has, uh, detailed illustrations.

   29. EAEhsan Ahmad1:16:23

       Of, like, plants and stuff.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:16:24

       Oh, here we go. Let's... Here's a little video. So you could see, like, how cool it looks when they're opening up the book. Anything that you're getting-
7. 1:30:00 – 1:45:00

   Interesting.…

   1. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:00

      a dog, you're more likely to get attacked by a shark.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:30:03

      Interesting.

   3. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:03

      Uh, and it, it's like, uh, something like a full moon, like, the moon really regulates sharks' emotions, so, like, more shark attacks happen on full moons.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:30:11

      Oh, fuck.

   5. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:11

      There are certain things. Yeah, apparently having the dog ne- they never attack the dog.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:30:15

      Really?

   7. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:15

      But the dog attracts the... Uh, something about how they swim attacks the shark.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:30:18

      Dogs don't get killed by sharks?

   9. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:20

      Not m- they will attack the person.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:30:23

       Really?

   11. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:23

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:30:24

       Wow.

   13. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:25

       It's something... The, the book lays it out. There is something, there is, like, a g- a, like, a coordinate- like, a... There, there are a bunch of different factors that sort of apply to that.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:30:34

       Whoa.

   15. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:35

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:30:36

       I don't think there's anything alive right now that is, you know, dinosaur-like, but y- I wonder how long they stuck around for. How long some of them stayed-

   17. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:47

       Just the last vestiges-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:30:49

       If crocodiles, if crocodiles and alligators didn't exist... Like, let's just imagine crocodiles didn't exist, the big ones, the Nile crocodiles.

   19. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:56

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:30:56

       Let's imagine-

   21. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:57

       Okay

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:30:57

       ... no one thought there was a crocodile.

   23. EAEhsan Ahmad1:30:58

       Mm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:30:58

       It's nonsense, and then one day, someone got a video of one in the Congo. You'd be like: No!

   25. EAEhsan Ahmad1:31:04

       [chuckles]

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:31:05

       Dinosaurs are real.

   27. EAEhsan Ahmad1:31:06

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:31:07

       That's a dinosaur.

   29. EAEhsan Ahmad1:31:08

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:31:08

       That is a straight-up dinosaur.
8. 1:45:00 – 2:00:00

   Right.…

   1. EAEhsan Ahmad1:45:01

      I feel like... 'Cause, 'cause when I got here, there was only three p- it was me, Hans Kim, and Deric, and Dylan. Dylan was eight years in, but those were the only four of us that were, like, not famous headliners, that weren't new comics, basically.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:45:16

      Right.

   3. EAEhsan Ahmad1:45:16

      So we got to just do so many shows, 'cause the, there was no middle class. It was all... It was [chuckles] it was like California. It was all upper class and all, like- [laughing]

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:45:26

      [laughing]

   5. EAEhsan Ahmad1:45:26

      ... lower class. It was very... [laughing] That would- now, now it's robust. Now, there's just a bunch of killers that are, like, just moving here all the time. There's this guy, Nick Murphy, moved from Atlanta.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:45:36

      What year did you move here?

   7. EAEhsan Ahmad1:45:37

      Uh, 2021.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:45:40

      Wow, okay.

   9. EAEhsan Ahmad1:45:40

      I moved here early. I got on a Zoom- I got on a... With Dylan Sullivan, we were, I used to play this, uh, I used to play... We used to play game nights during the pandemic online with our friends, 'cause we weren't allowed out, right? And so he pulled me aside one day on Discord and was like, "You've gotta move here," and he made the pitch.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:45:56

       Wow.

   11. EAEhsan Ahmad1:45:56

       And then I was like, I was pretty much there, and then Deric moved here, and he was like, "You gotta."

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:46:01

       And this was just when we were doing shows out of The Vulcan.

   13. EAEhsan Ahmad1:46:03

       This is just shows out of The Vulcan. This was just... But it was indoor shows, man.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:46:07

       Yeah.

   15. EAEhsan Ahmad1:46:07

       And so I, I moved here, and then I was like... 'Cause the, the way I looked at it was like, "Look, either I'm gonna... Like, LA's gonna reopen, and I'll be working at the Comedy Store again, and I'll- will have at least gotten up in that time, and gotten paid to go up." 'Cause they, they pay, they pay for every spot here-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:46:23

       Right

   17. EAEhsan Ahmad1:46:23

       ... if you're booked. So it's like, at least got paid. And so I was like, "And then I'll go back to LA [chuckles] "-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:46:28

       A little glitch. But so, so when you came here, it was just like, "Look, I'll get some spots. I'll get paid, and if the Comedy Store reopens, I'll go back"?

   19. EAEhsan Ahmad1:46:37

       Yeah, I'll go back, and... Or the club was still two week, uh, two years away from opening-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:46:42

       Yeah

   21. EAEhsan Ahmad1:46:42

       ... but it's like, I'll, I'll stick it out till the club and see what happens. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:46:44

       We were just starting to talk about club back then.

   23. EAEhsan Ahmad1:46:47

       Right. Yeah, you, uh, you had put it out in the universe, and that was enough for me to be like, "I think he's gonna get that done." And so I took a chance, and it, and it ended up working, and then I ended up being one of the first people, like, pass through there, which ended... Was huge, huge blessing. 'Cause now there's so many killers that it's, like, hard to get into the Mothership.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:47:05

       Yeah.

   25. EAEhsan Ahmad1:47:06

       There's so many, like, people who have moved. It's like... It's I, I almost tell people, like, it's a major city l- in that way, in the sense of, like, if you can get good where you are first and then move to Austin-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:47:17

       Right

   27. EAEhsan Ahmad1:47:17

       ... that might be better now than a blind move to Austin.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:47:21

       Right, as an opener.

   29. EAEhsan Ahmad1:47:22

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:47:22

       As a beginner.
9. 2:00:00 – 2:15:00

   Yeah. [chuckles]…

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:00:00

      much entertainment. I like watching people make furniture for some reason.

   2. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:03

      Yeah. [chuckles]

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:00:04

      I really do.

   4. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:05

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:00:05

      I love watching people make, like, live edge tables and shit, and I don't know.

   6. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:10

      Yeah. [chuckles]

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:00:10

      It's just, it's just, it's just like, "Oh, this tickles me."

   8. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:12

      I like watching people cook.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:00:13

      Mm.

   10. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:13

       I like to wa- I watch a lot of cooking.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:00:15

       Well, it's, it's so, it, it's so, like, you can... E- everyone's entertainment's so, like, in their own lane, that you can come across a video and be like 8 million views, and you've never even seen it.

   12. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:24

       Right. Right, right, right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:00:24

       Like, true virality is tough. Like, in the future, are there gonna be even, like, A-list celebrities like that, you know?

   14. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:32

       What do you mean?

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:00:32

       Like, or, like, it's gonna be... There's gonna be less and less, like, A, like, what would you describe as, like, an A-list celebrity, right?

   16. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:38

       Sure, right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:00:38

       'Cause everyone has their own sort of lane.

   18. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:40

       Well, there's more celebrities now than there ever have been before-

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:00:43

       Right

   20. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:43

       ... for sure. There's more, let's just say, famous people.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:00:46

       Right.

   22. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:46

       There's more people that are known than ever before-

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:00:49

       Right

   24. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:49

       ... because of social media.

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:00:50

       Yes.

   26. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:50

       Like, think about all the streamers and-

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:00:51

       Mm-hmm

   28. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:52

       ... YouTubers and-

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:00:53

       Oh, yeah, Austin has a-

   30. EAEhsan Ahmad2:00:53

       Podcasters
10. 2:15:00 – 2:16:38

    Mm.…

    1. JRJoe Rogan2:15:00

       you start losing your fucking mind. You're like: "What is real? Like, what really controls the world?"

    2. EAEhsan Ahmad2:15:05

       Mm.

    3. JRJoe Rogan2:15:05

       Like, what fucking lizard people are really at the center of this whole thing?

    4. EAEhsan Ahmad2:15:08

       Right, yeah. That's wh- it's kind of better to just [chuckles] stay away at a certain point, just be like, "Eh."

    5. JRJoe Rogan2:15:13

       Well, you should probably pay attention a little bit, but i- some people must have an obligation to do it, because if it doesn't get exposed, then it's gonna continue. And the only way that you can kinda put a stop to this stuff, is people have to get busted, and they have to be held accountable. The public has to get outraged, so someone has to be making these videos, so... But it doesn't have to be you.

    6. EAEhsan Ahmad2:15:31

       Right. [chuckles]

    7. JRJoe Rogan2:15:32

       Doesn't have to be you.

    8. EAEhsan Ahmad2:15:32

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan2:15:33

       Like, for your own personal mental health, it's just not good to absorb all of the evil of the world.

    10. EAEhsan Ahmad2:15:41

        Yeah, there's no reason to take that on. There's no reason-

    11. JRJoe Rogan2:15:43

        No

    12. EAEhsan Ahmad2:15:43

        ... just b- just find happiness in your lane.

    13. JRJoe Rogan2:15:46

        Yeah.

    14. EAEhsan Ahmad2:15:46

        Yeah, that's, that... I feel like that's pretty easy to do.

    15. JRJoe Rogan2:15:48

        Yeah, I feel, I feel like that's pretty easy to do.

    16. EAEhsan Ahmad2:15:50

        Yeah, just, just be... A lot of it, just be happy with where you are [chuckles] and work from there.

    17. JRJoe Rogan2:15:55

        Yeah, but it's just like some people feel obligated to be a part of something, you know?

    18. EAEhsan Ahmad2:15:59

        Mm-hmm.

    19. JRJoe Rogan2:15:59

        And then you, you, you, you find... The thing about, like, with Metzger is, like, he wasn't always like this. I was friends with him long before he started working with Jimmy.

    20. EAEhsan Ahmad2:16:07

        Mm-hmm.

    21. JRJoe Rogan2:16:08

        And he was, you know, fun and crazy-

    22. EAEhsan Ahmad2:16:12

        Mm

    23. JRJoe Rogan2:16:12

        ... always, like, the same kinda guy. But now it's like the m- uh, the obsession is all on deep corruption and conspiracies, and it's like, yo.

    24. EAEhsan Ahmad2:16:21

        Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan2:16:21

        But he's right.

    26. EAEhsan Ahmad2:16:22

        Right.

    27. JRJoe Rogan2:16:22

        He's right about a lot of it-

    28. EAEhsan Ahmad2:16:24

        Right

    29. JRJoe Rogan2:16:24

        ... which is nuts, and he, he maintains a lot of it in his fucking brain, just bouncing around in there, like [exhaling] .

    30. EAEhsan Ahmad2:16:32

        But yeah.

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