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- JRJoe Rogan
Hello, Rachel. What's happening?
- RWRachel Wilson
Hello, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Very nice to see you again.
- RWRachel Wilson
Good to see you, too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, so when your husband Andrew came in here, he told me about your book, and then I talked to you, and you seemed very interesting, and you gave me, like, a little brief synopsis of it. And so then I listened to it on audio tape, and it's fucking crazy.
- RWRachel Wilson
[laughing]
- JRJoe Rogan
And it is the Occult Feminism: The Secret History of Women's Liberation. Um, you know, I didn't really have much of an opinion on feminism. I... My, my opinion was, you know, unfortunately, you run into some feminists that just seem to not like men, for whatever reason. And, you know, there's a lot of people in this world that aren't happy with their position or station in life, but I didn't really think too much into how this all got started until I listened to your book, and I'm like, "This is kind of bonkers." So before we get into your book, like, how did you decide to write about this? Like, what, what was your little journey?
- RWRachel Wilson
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or big journey.
- RWRachel Wilson
Yeah, it's kind of a big journey. So, uh, when I was growing up, I was, like, a... In all the advanced kid classes, and from the time I was in, like, kindergarten, it was just pounded into my head, like, "You're going to college, you're going to have a career. And, you know, you're smart, and you have to do something with that." It was, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right
- RWRachel Wilson
... the only option that was put before me, and so I followed that path, like, all the way through school. And by the time I got done with 12 years of regular school, I realized a couple things. One is, uh, school is not where you go to learn things. Uh, school isn't nec- public school is not so great for smart people, for the most part, and that I really didn't like... Like, another four years of school just sounded like hell to me, and I really just wanted to get married and have kids. That's kind of what I always wanted to do, much to the horror of my Marxist feminist mother, um [chuckles] -
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, you were-
- RWRachel Wilson
... who did not like that
- JRJoe Rogan
... indoctrinated at an early age.
- RWRachel Wilson
Well, she tried-
- JRJoe Rogan
[chuckles]
- RWRachel Wilson
... but I was the why kid. I was the kid that's just like: "Why? Why?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RWRachel Wilson
"But why?" Um, and I had, like, a Rush Limbaugh dad.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow!
- RWRachel Wilson
Yeah. They got divorced. Shocker. [chuckles] Who could have seen it coming?
- JRJoe Rogan
[chuckles]
- RWRachel Wilson
Um, so they got divorced when I was, like, nine, and I had... So I grew up in, like, two worlds. I had, like, Republican business owner, Rush Limbaugh dad, and I had Marxist feminist, crazy mom.
- JRJoe Rogan
Was the mom always Marxist feminist, and was the hu- the, the dad always, like, a Rush Limbaugh Republican?
- RWRachel Wilson
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
How did they fall in love? How did all that happen?
- RWRachel Wilson
Uh, they didn't. I was an accident. [chuckles]
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, so they just fallen in lust. [chuckles]
Episode duration: 2:21:30
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