Joe Rogan Experience #2464 - Priyanka Chopra Jonas

Joe Rogan 0:02 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:10 [upbeat rock music] I won't lie, I am nervous to talk to you.

Joe Rogan 0:15 Come on.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:16 Just slightly.

Joe Rogan 0:16 How can you be nervous?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:17 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 0:17 That's ridiculous.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:18 Like, I came in slightly intimidated.

Joe Rogan 0:20 Why?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:22 I actually don't know the answer to that, 'cause we've never met.

Joe Rogan 0:24 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:25 So it's not like you've intimidated me, but I just, I'm really, um... I think I, what I really enjoy about your show is just such an eclectic perspective on so many diverse things, and it comes, like, so naturally to you. Um, I really admire that.

Joe Rogan 0:41 Well, fortunately-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:42 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 0:42 ... I don't have anybody pick my guests.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:45 Right.

Joe Rogan 0:45 So it's all people that I'm actually interested in talking to, so it's easy. It's just stuff that-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:49 Oh, that's nice

Joe Rogan 0:49 ... stuff that I'm interested in.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:49 Well, thank you for, for picking me. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 0:51 Oh, my pleasure. I'm excited to talk to you. I r- uh, your movie is fucking crazy. Like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 0:56 It is

Joe Rogan 0:56 ... I knew it was a pi- a pirate movie, but I, I just did not expect the ultra-violence.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:02 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:02 Like, from the beginning I was like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:04 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:05 ... yo. Like, I locked in immediately. I was like, first scene I was like, holy shit. Like, this is crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:11 Well, thank you. That's a-

Joe Rogan 1:12 What was that like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:13 ... good thing, right?

Joe Rogan 1:13 ... to feel? I mean, is it... When you're doing something that's that hyper-violent-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:18 Mm-hmm

Joe Rogan 1:18 ... like, is that, does that freak you out at all? Like, you're cutting people open with swords and stabbing them in the neck, and it's like, holy shit.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27 No, when you're doing it, you know, it's like make believe, so it's so much fun to be like, yeah, playing pirates-

Joe Rogan 1:32 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:32 ... and I'm gonna behead you. But, um, I mean, whe- in moments of, like, scenes and stuff where I actually had to think about what it must have been like to be a female at that time, or... Because they existed. Women, female pirates existed, and we just, we didn't hear many, much about, stories about them. I mean, I heard about Grace O'Malley, maybe, um, there was Mary Read, like a few famous ones.

Joe Rogan 1:59 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:59 Um, Ching Shih, after I did my research. But, like, in those moments you're like, this stuff must have, like, this was real. They lived at a time where it was survival of the fittest. It was barbaric. Um, and I wonder what that must have been like. But besides that, the stunts and stuff, like, I really have so much admiration for the amount of, um, precision it requires to pull that stuff off from so many people, not just the stunt department, but, like, the cameras, because they're also moving in sync with you.

Joe Rogan 2:31 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:32 Um, and that's cool. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:34 It is cool.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:35 Is it hard to stay in the moment when all that is happening? Because you have so much coordination and so, there's, there's so much choreography. There's like, he's gonna swing this way, and you're gonna block it, and you're gonna dive do- it was like, it's so complex. Like, these are long, extended fight scenes.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:54 Yeah. We had, like, a lot of oners too, like, full, the whole scene in one shot.

Joe Rogan 3:00 Whoa.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 3:00 Um, which, Frankie, our director, really loved the idea of, and I honestly love it because it, it brings you into that, that moment is so enriched with everything that you're supposed to feel-

Joe Rogan 3:12 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 3:12 ... between action and cut. So I do love a long oner. Um, but you know I come from Bollywood movies, so we have a lot of choreography, choreography for, like, dance sequences where stories are also moving forward, like, between, you know, your exchange of expression or something's happening somewhere else, you come back. So I treat sort of fight sequences like dancing.

Joe Rogan 3:35 Hm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 3:36 It's, you learn the choreography, but that doesn't stop your face from telling the story.

Joe Rogan 3:40 Right. That makes sense.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 3:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:42 Yeah. And I mean, it is kind, I mean, it's just choreography.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 3:47 It is.

Joe Rogan 3:47 Whether it's choreography with dance or choreography with-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 3:49 With guns or-

Joe Rogan 3:49 ... movements with your hands and swords

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 3:51 ... weapons. I had never worked with blades before this movie, though. That was cool, you know?

Joe Rogan 3:55 How much training did you have to do? Like, when you found out that you were gonna take the role-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 3:59 Yeah

Joe Rogan 3:59 ... um, how much preparation did you have to do physically to get ready for all that stuff?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 4:04 It was a cool year for me because I was filming three jobs which were all action and stunts.

Joe Rogan 4:10 Oh.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 4:10 So this movie called Heads of State, which I did for Amazon again, and then Citadel, and this movie. So it was a year of three action-packed jobs. So the, you know, being agile and being in it was already part of what I was doing 'cause that's what I was filming every day, but the swords training was tough, and to be ambidextrous with it as well. Um, so I had, um, my, my stunt coordinator who was doing all three movies with me, she, in between shots, she and I would just take our rubber swords out and do, like, choreography and rehearsals.

Joe Rogan 4:42 Oh.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 4:42 And, but, like, it took at least three or four months of just staying in it and getting loose with it. Also because Karl Urban, my co-actor, had, casual, learned, [laughs] uh, how to do, like, sword fights in The Lord of the Rings.

Joe Rogan 4:56 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 4:57 So he was amazing at it. So I didn't, you know, in that last duel, I didn't want to be any less than, so I kind of went at it.

Joe Rogan 5:06 No, you looked very good at it. It was really good.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 5:09 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 5:09 So I, I was, like, did you work with some sort of a, like a kendo specialist or, uh, some fencing specialist? Like, how did you learn how to move the sword correctly?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 5:19 It wasn't kendo, for sure, and it definitely wasn't fencing. It was uniquely, because the swords were m- our director was very, very excited about the weapons in this movie and wanting to get it really right from the period, whether it was the guns-

Joe Rogan 5:32 Hm

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 5:32 ... that we used or the blades that we used. Um, the machete was one of my favorite weapons in the movie because that's, like, her weapon in the movie 'cause it's practical. Use it for coconuts, use it for skulls, same-same. [laughs] And that was really fun. But, um, our, our, you know, second unit director, Rob Alonzo, had so much experience in, in the amount of work that he's done prior. He came in with a very specific idea of wanting to make the fighting style super unique, and each-Set piece, like a different design of choreography. So, you know, there was one which was in a dark cave, so the only time you saw people was when the gunshot went off, and just different styles of fighting, um, which I thought was really cool.

Joe Rogan 6:18 So, but did you have, like, a professional trainer that-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 6:20 Yes

Joe Rogan 6:20 ... taught you how to do that?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 6:21 Yes.

Joe Rogan 6:21 And s- so how would you do it? Would you do it with a real sword? Did you do it with, like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 6:25 Well, we had three different kinds of swords. The real sword, like, weighs more than me. It was insane. [laughs] I couldn't do it with a real sword as much. But for filming, and this is the magic of the movies, you know, you have four different weights of it.

Joe Rogan 6:37 Mm-hmm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 6:37 One is, like, the real sword, where you need it for, like, you know, where it's a close-up or the sword is really, really visible. Um, but when you're doing the big choreography, you have, like, a lighter sword, which is created by the props department, and then another lighter one, and when you need to flip it, it's the lightest one. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 6:55 'Cause I was thinking-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 6:55 I'm telling you all my secrets

Joe Rogan 6:56 ... all the te- that's good.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 6:57 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 6:57 It's good to know.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 6:59 That sucks. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 7:00 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 7:00 Oh, no.

Joe Rogan 7:01 No, listen.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 7:02 Here I was trying to impress you with my sword flipping-

Joe Rogan 7:04 No, it's impressive, period

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 7:06 ... and talking about my fencing, but no, it was movie magic. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 7:09 One of the things that I was thinking when I was watching it is, like, how many takes did you have to do with this? 'Cause that's gotta be so hard to do, 'cause you're swinging this gigantic iron thing-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 7:18 Yeah

Joe Rogan 7:19 ... and clashing into other ones. And like, if you have to do three or four takes of this, your arms are gonna be toast.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 7:23 Oh, we did, like, 10 hours of it every day for like seven days or something. We had-

Joe Rogan 7:27 Do you have shoulder problems after that?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 7:29 No, actually I didn't, but I was jacked. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 7:32 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 7:33 My arms never looked as good.

Joe Rogan 7:35 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 7:35 Now, I mean, I have a four-year-old and I lift her a lot, so my arms are, like, all right, but during this movie, oof. Because we were just, like, at it.

Joe Rogan 7:42 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 7:43 And we both, you know, threw ourselves at it, um, Carl and I, and it took, it was a big choreography on top of this bluff. We shot on, 100% of this movie, at least 90%, is definitely on practical sets, real sets. We did not wanna use a lot of VFX. So-

Joe Rogan 7:58 Mm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 7:58 You know, Phil Ivey, um, our production designer, we built the ships, we built the house, we built-

Joe Rogan 8:03 Really?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 8:04 Everything was a replica of what it would've looked like in the 1900s in the Cayman Islands. We went and saw it. It was amazing to be able to do that with real stuff, you know?

Joe Rogan 8:14 Yeah. Well, the, the whole history of piracy is so fascinating, and one of the things that the movie is about is this g- the Carl Urban character is from, he was one of the soldiers of the East India Trading Company.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 8:29 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 8:29 Then I went on a deep dive on the East India Trading Company.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 8:31 You did.

Joe Rogan 8:32 That is crazy. When you learn the history of that-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 8:38 Yeah

Joe Rogan 8:38 ... one corporation, it was one of the first publicly traded corporations, that essentially was in control of India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, went to war with China over opium, and that's how they took over Hong Kong. You're like, "Holy shit." One crazy fucking corporation involved in the slave trade, the opium tra- just a, a corporation, a publicly traded corporation.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 9:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:04 People could buy stock in it, like one of the first ones, and it just went haywire to the point where it got so big there was a revolt and then the British government took over it and nationalized it. But it's, the whole story is insane.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 9:18 If you think about how much, in their minds, they were able to achieve and how much they were able to destroy, um, in that duration is crazy if you go down history. Um, and-

Joe Rogan 9:32 Changed the course of countries forever

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 9:35 ... human lives forever.

Joe Rogan 9:36 Forever.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 9:37 Like, the amount of-

Joe Rogan 9:37 Millions and-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 9:38 ... pillaging that happened.

Joe Rogan 9:39 Yes.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 9:40 Millions and millions of lives. And this movie actually has a really interesting slice of what they were capable of doing. They utilized pirates in order to, you know, take over new lands, right, and in their conquests. And then, um, when piracy was abolished, they, you know, went after them, and they, they wanted to arrest them, and they vilified the same people that helped them build their entire empire. So this was really interesting because, um, my character's story, her, her parents and her family are indentured servants, which was the truth of many, many people, especially in India, um, where young people were, um, you know, told better opportunities, new lands, more money, um, come with us, and take them off as servants and then drop them in different parts of the world, in islands. And the Caribbean has a huge Indian community, um, whose history started with, um, just being displaced from their lands and, and dropped somewhere else in the world, and then having to figure out what your future looks like. I mean, it still happens to many, many people around the world right now, but, um, I thought it was really interesting that my character came from that and her i- entire identity was erased, taken from her. She had no idea. She was 12, so she had no idea what it meant to have that identity. And I met so many people, actually, when I went to the Cayman, um, who don't know anything about their family tree beyond, like, five generations.

Joe Rogan 11:12 Mm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 11:13 Or they know where their family may have come from, from Sri Lanka or from India or, you know, um, any other nation, but have no idea what, like, what it was, where, from what village, like, what was your culture. Um, and that ambiguity in, in a history of a human being erases a part of you. It, it, it denies you of, of knowing the depth of your culture or where you come from or your roots. And, um, I thought that was really, really interesting for my character to play and, and then reclaim herself, um, through the journey of the movie.

Joe Rogan 11:52 Well, it's a fascinating part of human history.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 11:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:54 And it's taken place all over the world, and for a lot of cultures, they, they don't have an understanding of exactly what happened before they were colonized.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 12:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:09 Like, one, one of the great examples is Mexico. I went on a long, deep dive on Mexico recently, over the last few months, 'cause I've had a bunch of-P- people who are, uh, historians who came on the podcast who are just researching these ancient Inca and Mayan sites and-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 12:23 Wow

Joe Rogan 12:23 ... talking to them about it. And then I went into it, and it's like there was over 100 different languages that are just lost forever in that whole, what is now called Mexico. And that's the reason why everybody over there speaks Spanish and is Catholic. Like, it's not because that was their language and that was their religion. They were all conquered.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 12:44 Absolutely. I mean-

Joe Rogan 12:45 By, like, 600 guys. That's what's nuts.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 12:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:50 600 guys in the 1500s came over, took over, you know, what was the Aztec Empire, with help of the people that they were in conflict with, and changed the course of the entire country.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:05 From-

Joe Rogan 13:05 It's, it's a nuts-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:06 So many generations

Joe Rogan 13:07 ... for forever. Like, to this day, people in Mexico think they speak Spanish and they have a Catholic religion. Well, that's all brought over from Spain. Like, the entire country. They had wild names, too, like Cacao Thunder Sky God, and all these different... Like, almost like Native-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:24 Really?

Joe Rogan 13:24 ... American-type names.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:25 Wow.

Joe Rogan 13:26 They looked like Native Americans. I mean, but if you think about it-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:29 I mean-

Joe Rogan 13:29 ... doesn't that make sense?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:30 That makes so much sense.

Joe Rogan 13:31 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:31 It, they probably, like, shared land and crops and, like-

Joe Rogan 13:35 Well, there was no real-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:36 There were no borders at that time.

Joe Rogan 13:37 No. Back then, I mean-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:38 Yeah

Joe Rogan 13:38 ... what, what were countries in the 1500s in-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:42 Yeah

Joe Rogan 13:42 ... in North America? Like, what was, w- we don't even know. Like, what was North America like?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:46 I mean, I think about how young America is, technically.

Joe Rogan 13:49 Super young.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:50 Like, how many years? 300 years? 400 years?

Joe Rogan 13:52 Yeah. Le-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:53 'Cause-

Joe Rogan 13:53 Less, less than 300 years.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 13:55 Yeah. And, and, like, you were talking about history in, in India. She has been invaded over thousands and thousands and thousands of years. Only invaded, we've never invaded anybody else. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 14:08 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 14:08 She's not had the time, India's like, "Just give me a break."

Joe Rogan 14:12 Yeah. [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 14:12 Um, yeah, the Portuguese, the British-

Joe Rogan 14:15 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 14:15 ... um, the Mughals, like, from back in time. And, uh, the history of India, I mean, I'm not a historian, and I don't claim to be, but I find it really fascinating. I love culture, and especially the culture of India. Like, you will see my grandmother was Catholic because she comes, she was raised in a part of India which was colonized, and a lot of people, Kerala, a lot of people were converted into Catholicism. And she grew up Catholic, and, uh, you know, she, she followed it for a very long time in her life. India is, like, hyper diverse because of how many, um, people have kind of made it her roots. So when you go to India, the amount of diversity you will see, the kind of, the range of people that you will meet, uh, is impossible to fathom. Like, an Indian face does not look like a particular person.

Joe Rogan 15:05 Mm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 15:06 Or the amount of cultures, the languages. We have written and spoken languages which are almost, like, 20-something or in their 30s. Um, absolutely different alphabet, absolutely different sound. I can't... If I go to another state, I won't be able to understand what people are saying.

Joe Rogan 15:22 Wow.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 15:23 It's amazing.

Joe Rogan 15:25 Wow. How many different languages are spoken there?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 15:28 About 28 to 30. Um, but there are dialects in the hundreds.

Joe Rogan 15:32 Oh, wow.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 15:33 Don't even get into the dialects. [laughs] I just speak English and Hindi. Tr- understand a little bit of Punjabi and Marathi, but, um, it's, it's really amazing.

Joe Rogan 15:43 Now, but-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 15:44 Have you ever been, by the way?

Joe Rogan 15:45 No, I haven't.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 15:46 Oh, Joe, you have to. You would, you would really... Like, you're the kind of guy who likes a deep dive.

Joe Rogan 15:50 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 15:51 You would really lose yourself, I think, in, in an amazing way.

Joe Rogan 15:53 Well, I wanna go just to see if, if, for many things, but just to see that one immense temple that was carved entirely out of stone-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 16:03 Oh, yeah

Joe Rogan 16:03 ... is one of the great mysteries of archeology.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 16:05 But there, there are quite a few if you go, especially so- south of India, and the caves, if you go inside the Andaman and Nicobar, like, the caves, you'll see from thousands and tens and thousands of years ago, um, illustrations that, that you're like, "How, how did this happen? How could this temple have been chiseled?" Or, "How could, you know, these stones have been moved at that time?"

Joe Rogan 16:30 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 16:30 It's just, it makes you, it made me very, very curious about, like, what kind of tools did we have back then?

Joe Rogan 16:36 Well, there's a lot of holes in human history.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 16:38 Yeah, for sure.

Joe Rogan 16:39 You know, Graham Hancock has a great quote. He says that we are a, a species with amnesia, and I think that's accurate.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 16:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:47 And I, I think when you find some of the great archeological wonders where, where people just have decided, oh, they built it this way, and then just let it go. And then other people start looking at it and go, "Wait a minute, how? How did they do this?" Like, "When did they do this?"

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 17:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:02 Like, "What's the, what's the historical record of this? Because this is kinda nuts." This seems to indicate, like, a very advanced, sophisticated society.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 17:10 Yeah, a very advanced civilization. Like, one of the oldest civilizations in the world, along with the Mayans, is the Indus Valley Civilization, which is the north of India.

Joe Rogan 17:22 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 17:22 Um, and I just remember studying about it in school, and that's my, my, my maximum understanding of that civilization, but also, like, having visited the Indus River, I guess. But, um, I remember, like, the, the artifacts that were found and, um, like, if you do a, a deep dive into how that civilization existed and then how it was erased, and w- you know, it makes you question, like, it's, there had to be some seriously advanced, like, scientific, um, understanding that was eventually lost as, you know, as human evolution happened, where we lose a civilization and then comes back again. But it just makes you wonder about early humans and how fascinatingly advanced we would've had to be to do all of that then.

Joe Rogan 18:13 100%. Yeah, the-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 18:14 Without the technology and stuff that we have, I mean.

Joe Rogan 18:17 I think they had technology. I think they had different technology.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 18:19 I, I, I think so too.

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Priyanka Chopra Jonas 19:39 I think it's, yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:39 This is crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 19:41 This is what I meant. The-

Joe Rogan 19:42 Because the precision and v-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 19:44 ... agenda and Laura caves

Joe Rogan 19:44 ... first of all, there's no, like, understanding of where the stone went. Like, they moved who knows how many-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 19:51 And how did you take out-

Joe Rogan 19:52 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 19:52 ... all of those tons of rocks?

Joe Rogan 19:54 Yes.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 19:55 Out of, like-

Joe Rogan 19:56 It's so insane

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 19:58 ... look at the, look at the-

Joe Rogan 19:58 The precision is spectacular. It's so nuts when you see, like, videos of people going through it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 20:05 How huge is that?

Joe Rogan 20:05 Immense. Absolutely immense and incredibly precise.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 20:10 Wow. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:10 And, and just carved out of s- a solid piece of stone.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 20:15 Like, you-

Joe Rogan 20:15 The whole thing is carved out of the mountain

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 20:18 ... think about how old that is. Like, this is all BC, before Christ, like thousands-

Joe Rogan 20:24 Oh, yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 20:24 ... and thousands of years-

Joe Rogan 20:26 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 20:26 ... BC. And the history of India, like, hence the diversity. You see, it's, it's, it's a, it's one of the oldest civilizations in the world, and then, like, how do you explain that? Look at that image.

Joe Rogan 20:37 So it says it's 12... What does it say? How old did it say it was, you said?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 20:40 12 thou-

Joe Rogan 20:40 It said 1200, but that's, like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 20:41 1200 BC

Joe Rogan 20:41 How do they know that? That can't be right. The, the, uh, 1200 years old? Maybe. See, there's a lot of just estimates based on what was the civilization at the time.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 20:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:51 And there's no... Like, this is the, the thing with Peru, like w- Sacsayhuaman and a lot of these places-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 20:56 Yeah

Joe Rogan 20:56 ... where they attribute it to the Incas. But you see, like, traditional Inca structures on top of these immense stones that are 100 tons. They're carved in these weird jigsaw patterns as to absorb the energy if there's an earthquake.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 21:11 Wow.

Joe Rogan 21:11 Like, it's weird shit, and it's like, okay, well, who did that? So like, oh, the Incas did it. Like, how? How'd they do that? 'Cause all their other structures are smaller stones-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 21:20 Different

Joe Rogan 21:20 ... stacked on top of each other in a way that, like, you could see a person carrying them and cutting them.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 21:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:24 Makes sense. But there's a lot of stuff like that temple, like, explain to me-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 21:29 Yeah

Joe Rogan 21:29 ... what you used.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 21:31 [laughs] There's no explanation.

Joe Rogan 21:32 Like, how? Like, j-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 21:33 How do you get-

Joe Rogan 21:33 Metal? Do you just use metal and carve that out like that?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 21:36 And, like, just a chisel and human-

Joe Rogan 21:38 And if you fuck up once-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 21:40 Yeah

Joe Rogan 21:40 ... it's over because you're not putting things on top of things. Like, "Oh, this block sucks. Let's get a new block." No, you're carving.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 21:46 Do you change the design if there's a fuckup? Like, you know what I mean? If you're trying to build-

Joe Rogan 21:51 That's a good question

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 21:51 ... like, a human form, and you chisel off the nose.

Joe Rogan 21:55 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 21:55 Like, do you turn it into something else? I don't know. Probably. Otherwise... Because it's just one piece, and you're right, you're not adding-

Joe Rogan 22:02 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 22:02 ... anything to it.

Joe Rogan 22:03 Well, in Egypt, there's indications that they abandoned certain pieces 'cause they cracked.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 22:07 [gasps]

Joe Rogan 22:07 Because when you're dealing with, uh, you know, granite-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 22:11 Oh.

Joe Rogan 22:11 And-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 22:11 Yeah

Joe Rogan 22:11 ... there, there's certain, uh, specic- pers- uh, specifically, there's an, a gigantic obelisk that they were carving out that, I mean, I think it was, like, 1,300 tons, like, something bananas. Like, okay, how are you gonna move this fucking thing? But they got to a certain point where there was a crack in it, and so they had to abandon it, and so it's still there.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 22:28 And it's just there?

Joe Rogan 22:29 Yeah, it's still the... I think that's in, it might be in Aswan. I don't, I, I'm not sure where it is, but-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 22:33 Do you know, like, you know, the theories around the, um, Egyptian pyramids, obviously, like, how were those blocks carried up and-

Joe Rogan 22:43 There's no valid theory. Zero.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 22:47 How was it in that shape and so precisely geometrically, you know?

Joe Rogan 22:51 Well, it's even more complicated now because there's a, an Italian scientist that we had on recently-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 22:55 Mm-hmm

Joe Rogan 22:56 ... called Filippo Biondi. Am I saying that right? Biondi? He's, amazing accent, this guy. He's fucking incredible.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 23:02 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 23:02 Um, but he's using, what is it? Radio Doppler tomography.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 23:08 Wow.

Joe Rogan 23:09 So it's, it's a type of satellite imagery that uses some technology to get an, a, a vision of what's under the ground, and they've used this successfully to show known, um, caverns in the ground and known pyramids, and they even used it in Italy to show that they can look through a 1.2 kilometer mountain and see underneath it this particle collider and have an exact dimension of the particle collider and see what the-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 23:40 Wow

Joe Rogan 23:40 ... the outl- So they used this on the pyramids-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 23:42 And?

Joe Rogan 23:43 ... and they found these immense structures under the pyramids that go over a kilometer into the ground with massive, these, these huge 20 di- 20-meter diameter columns that have these huge circular coils wrapped around them. No one knows what the hell they're looking at, but they're in very precise positions. They've done over 200 scans of these things. They don't know what they are. They don't know w- w- what's the purpose of all this, who made this.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 24:15 Wow.

Joe Rogan 24:15 So if this turns out to be accurate, and they're very confident that it, they're, that it's accurate, and they're starting to look into it deeper, and they're trying to figure out how to get down in there and, and explore with drones or, or somethingThen the whole thing gets thrown into question because it's preposterous enough that you have someone who's able, able to cut and place 2,300,000 stones that's-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 24:41 Right

Joe Rogan 24:41 ... perfectly aligned to true north, south, east, and west. Some of them weigh as much as 80 tons.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 24:46 Tons, which is insane.

Joe Rogan 24:46 That are come, that come from 500 miles away through the mountains, no roads. Like, how'd you do it? That's crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 24:52 That's crazy in itself.

Joe Rogan 24:53 But if there's structures underneath that that go a kilometer into the ground and it, like, there's a, a giant, like, huge square at the bottom. They don't know what it is, but these are structures. These are not like something that is just a naturally occurring stone.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 25:10 Yeah, it was man-made and-

Joe Rogan 25:11 Show her an image of it. It's fucking kooky.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 25:13 So what, is that like how-

Joe Rogan 25:15 So these are these columns. This is, like, what the images are showing, and the three-dimensional-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 25:20 That's wild

Joe Rogan 25:20 ... replication of what they think is ... That's what they think it looks like underneath there. They have no idea what these things are.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 25:28 What?

Joe Rogan 25:30 There's also, um, is that Hawara that has that underground, um, labyrinth? They've, they've also found these, the, this, Herodotus wrote about these labyrinths. There's a great channel on YouTube called UnchartedX-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 25:43 Mm

Joe Rogan 25:44 ... by this guy Ben van Kerkwyk, who's been on the podcast before. He's great. And, um, they've used radio, uh, well, they used a ground-penetrating radar in that location. They found that these immense labyrinths are real. They're there. They're huge. Herodotus said they're, and it's greater than Giza, and it's underground. And in the center of one of these atriums, there is a 40-meter metallic object that's shaped like a Tic Tac. It's in the center of this-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 26:15 What?

Joe Rogan 26:15 Yes. So there's a bunch of shit that they don't, they can't explain down there, where you're like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 26:22 Wow

Joe Rogan 26:22 ... okay, what is this? They also know that a lot of these civilizations, like later versions of it, took from some of the older sites and started building new things or built on top of them, like very disrespectfully. But nobody had an idea of, like, the importance of history back then. You're just trying to stay alive. And so they found all these stones, and oh, let's use these stones. And so-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 26:41 Oh my gosh, totally. In India, like when we were colonized, you hear stories of, you know, the British, um, officers telling like little kids that, "Hey, I'll give you two pounds. Go and get the gold statue from this temple," or whatever. And you don't have comprehension of what the value of historical things were, that there was so much that was taken from India in terms of wealth and, um, history and historical artifacts, and the Koh-i-Noor diamond, which is still on the queen's, uh, crown, which came from India. Um, and like so many things which were-

Joe Rogan 27:17 The Queen of England?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 27:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:19 Her, she has a diamond on her crown that she stole from-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 27:21 Can you pull it up? Koh-i-Noor diamond. K-O-H-

Joe Rogan 27:23 That bitch

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 27:23 ... I-N-O. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 27:24 Give it back. Give it [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 27:27 Yeah, we've been asking for it for a minute. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 27:30 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 27:31 We have. Um, it's a-

Joe Rogan 27:33 Well, the whole history of England and India is nuts, too.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 27:35 Look at the diamond.

Joe Rogan 27:35 That's the diamond? Whoa. How big is that sucker?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 27:38 The crown, the queen.

Joe Rogan 27:40 How big is that thing?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 27:41 Isn't that crazy? How big would that be?

Joe Rogan 27:45 I guess like 300 carats. Whoa.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 27:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:48 What is that worth with 100... Well, besides the historical w- value of it, which is probably priceless, what is 105 carats worth? That's nuts.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 28:00 A couple of million.

Joe Rogan 28:01 Imagine walking around-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 28:01 Couple hundred million

Joe Rogan 28:02 ... with a rock like that in your hand.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 28:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:03 Woo.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 28:04 I mean, that's what I'm saying, that royalty in India had so much jewelry, um, and wealth and stuff that was pillaged-

Joe Rogan 28:11 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 28:11 ... and just taken.

Joe Rogan 28:12 Well, the history of India is fascinating, like in the, the Vedic texts and the, the, the, the descriptions of Vimanas. Have you ever read any of that stuff?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 28:23 Yeah, the Vedas.

Joe Rogan 28:24 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 28:24 Not, and not extensively, but clearly you have.

Joe Rogan 28:26 The Vimanas are, it's like, what are you talking about? You're talking about flying crafts?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 28:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:31 Like, what are you-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 28:32 That's the thing. You go, and if you do a deep dive into the mythology of India and the stories that come from there, the kind of technology that has been mentioned in these ancient texts, like the Vimanas you're saying, you have flying objects. You have, um, spears with some sort of energy. You have bows and arrows with some sort of energy that travels beyond time and light. Um, and there's so much of all of this stuff referenced back then, which maybe humans thought was magic but was some form of ancient technology. Like, who's to say? But we do definitely believe, um, in Indian mythology, if you go back into Hinduism and, and the incredible stories that exist. Like, I love to think about where the origin, like where it must have come from.

Joe Rogan 29:22 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 29:22 Um, but there's so many fascinating, fascinating stories from then.

Joe Rogan 29:27 Yeah, I, I have an opinion that most people that were writing things down back then were trying to document a truth.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 29:35 Yeah, for sure.

Joe Rogan 29:36 I don't think they were trying to make up stories.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 29:37 No, I think it was definitely their truth.

Joe Rogan 29:39 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 29:39 But from our perspective now, we have to be like, how do you break down the truth of, you know, that there was this light that arrived from miles and miles away, and it felt like, I don't know, was it a bomb? Like, what was it of-

Joe Rogan 29:54 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 29:54 ... what was it of that time?

Joe Rogan 29:55 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 29:56 So it's cool to kind of try and interpret that. I mean, I, I believe in the mysticism and the magic of ancient humans and, you know, the beginning of time. There's no way to explain what and how that was. You know, we have the information we do from religious texts and historians of the past, but, um, it's just really fascinating to think about how resilient and human beings have been and how evolutions have had the same problems over time, but we kind of just navigate it through different worlds, you know?

Joe Rogan 30:32 I think, yeah, I think it's hard for us to grasp timelines, and-And then when-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 30:38 How would that be impossible? Think about, like, how short a human lifespan used to be-

Joe Rogan 30:42 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 30:42 ... to where it is now. How, the bas- our stories have to come from, like, people telling people stories or documenting them, right?

Joe Rogan 30:51 Right. Right. And those stories, like, when, when you're talking about certain passages in the Bible or certain passages in any religious text, a lot of those were stories that were just handed down for generations and generations before anybody wrote anything.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 31:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:08 So it's like, what were they trying to remember? Like, when they're talking about flying Vimanas, like, what were they talking about? Like, what did they experience? And how long ago was it? 'Cause I don't think we have a real understanding of how long ago it is.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 31:24 I mean, 17,000 BC is where, or around that time. That's that many years ago is what they say, but again, who-

Joe Rogan 31:33 That makes sense

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 31:34 ... who knows?

Joe Rogan 31:35 Well, that makes sense if you take into account the-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 31:37 Like 20,000 BC

Joe Rogan 31:38 ... there's a guy named Randall Carlson who's been on my podcast a few times, and he's a really fascinating guy. And he's an expert in a- asteroid collisions with Earth.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 31:47 Wow.

Joe Rogan 31:47 He's a, an expert in all the different times that Earth has been slammed by comets and meteors and, and-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 31:54 Is that how the dinosaurs-

Joe Rogan 31:56 Yes

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 31:56 ... were... So it did-

Joe Rogan 31:57 Yes

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 31:57 ... it was an asteroid.

Joe Rogan 31:58 Yeah, they believe so.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 31:59 Okay.

Joe Rogan 31:59 It was in the Yucatan, that one. That's the 65 billion years ago one. But there's other ones that are pr- that are before that.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 32:05 More before that.

Joe Rogan 32:06 Yeah. And then there's other ones that are after that.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 32:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:08 And one of the more interesting ones is called the Younger Dryas impact theory, and that one's from about 11,800 years ago. And then again, they think somewhere in the 10,000 years, that happened. So there's a t- comet storm that we pass by. I think it's every June and November. I forget what those, the time is. But this is like, also aligns with... Do you know about the Tunguska event? Have you ever heard of that?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 32:30 No.

Joe Rogan 32:31 In the early 1900s, um, a meteor exploded in the sky above Russia and devastated like a million acres of land. And it was during the same time period. And they realized, like, there's this comet storm that we pass through. Like, when you see meteor showers during-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 32:49 Yeah, yeah

Joe Rogan 32:49 ... the sky, it's because we're passing through these areas of our solar system that have these comets. This is the Tunguska event. So it just... And to this day, that area has no trees on it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 33:01 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 33:01 Yeah. So it just flattened everything, and it didn't even impact the ground. It blew up in the sky above it. And this was not even a big one. So-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 33:13 So how does, like, nothing grow again? Like, what-

Joe Rogan 33:16 I know. That's a good question

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 33:17 ... what is that asteroid made of that you can-

Joe Rogan 33:20 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 33:20 Like, Earth has been able to come back from so much.

Joe Rogan 33:23 Yeah. It's a good question.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 33:24 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 33:24 It's just, maybe it's just not enough time. I don't know. I mean, 117 years, maybe some, maybe eventually.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 33:29 Yeah. It needs, like, a millennia.

Joe Rogan 33:31 But it probably just blew the roots off of everything.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 33:33 Crazy.

Joe Rogan 33:33 It blew everything into smithereens, and it, it probably had some kind of chemical effect too, because it's a physical object. I don't know what it was made out of. But, you know, some of them are made out of iron. Some of them are made out of nickel. Like that big one that they saw, 3I/Atlas, that passed through-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 33:51 Yeah, yeah

Joe Rogan 33:51 ... that was a weird-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 33:52 Recently

Joe Rogan 33:52 ... one because they were like, "This is a nickel alloy that is as big as the size of Manhattan." And the only way we have it on Earth is in industrial manufacturing of an alloy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 34:02 Wow.

Joe Rogan 34:02 But this thing i- in another planet, somewhere else, millions and millions and millions of years ago-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 34:07 Yeah

Joe Rogan 34:08 ... was formed under whatever weird circumstances and conditions their planet has.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 34:12 But y- you, I mean, I, I wanna know your thoughts on this, but you definitely don't think we're, like, the only species existing in the universe, right?

Joe Rogan 34:22 I don't think that's possible.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 34:22 It's, it's human arrogance if we think we do.

Joe Rogan 34:25 Yeah, that seems silly.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 34:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:27 It doesn't make sense.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 34:28 No, it's just possible.

Joe Rogan 34:28 There's just too many planets. It's a, that's a, it's a silly thing to think. And they've found evidence of life on Mars. They, so they've found me- evidence of some sort of bacterial-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 34:36 Ba-

Joe Rogan 34:36 ... life on Mars.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 34:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:37 Like, the traces of bacterial life. Um, and that's, you know, right there.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 34:42 That's what I'm saying. Maybe it's just in, within our Milky Way that we... I mean, we haven't even been able to travel outside of that yet, you know?

Joe Rogan 34:49 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 34:49 To get information. But it has, there has to be other species, um, that exist and other, like, intelligence and technology.

Joe Rogan 34:59 Do you know the actor Terrence Howard?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 35:01 I mean, I know of him.

Joe Rogan 35:02 F- fascinating guy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 35:03 Okay.

Joe Rogan 35:03 Like, a little kooky, but super smart.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 35:05 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 35:05 Like, super smart. He's got some wi- wild ideas. One of his ideas, I was like, "Wait, what?" He thinks that life occurs when planets get a certain distance from their sun, and then over time they get too far out, and then life doesn't exist on those planets anymore. But when they're in this Goldilocks zone, like Earth is, for a long period of time in relative to our life, life exists, and then intelligent life emerges and figures out, "Hey, we gotta get outta here eventually, because this is not gonna sustain us," and then it propagates the world, or the universe rather. And he thinks that-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 35:48 Wow. Okay

Joe Rogan 35:49 ... there's a thing that happens, and he calls it peopling. He thinks that when a, a, a planet gets far, further enough from the sun that it eventually peoples, because it eventually reaches the right conditions where life emerges-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 36:05 Hmm

Joe Rogan 36:05 ... and evolution takes place, and natural selection and random mutation, all these things converge, and eventually you get an intelligent creature that knows how to manipulate its environment. And that's where we are.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 36:15 Is there any proof of planets, like, moving away from their sun?

Joe Rogan 36:23 Well, they all do, slowly. Very slowly.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 36:25 Like, so even our-

Joe Rogan 36:26 Yeah. Well-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 36:27 ... even our solar system, we're all, like, slowly moving?

Joe Rogan 36:29 Yeah. And the, also the sun is eventually gonna burn out and explode, and then we're fucked. But that's a long time from now. But the-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 36:37 There's enough shit-

Joe Rogan 36:39 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 36:39 ... [laughs] to be worried about.

Joe Rogan 36:40 Nothing's permanent.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 36:41 Right. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 36:41 Like, all suns are not per- and we, we're lucky. We have a slow burn sun, so we have a, a-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 36:46 Yeah

Joe Rogan 36:46 ... relatively small sun. And it's, uh, it-There's a lot of weird speculation that it's part of a binary solar system too. That there might have been-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 36:55 Wow

Joe Rogan 36:55 ... another version of our sun that burned out, that's like way out there, like way out in space, like way past Pluto, way out there.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:03 I'd buy that.

Joe Rogan 37:04 It's possible. I mean-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:05 Absolutely

Joe Rogan 37:05 ... there's, there's a lot of wacky theories as to why there seems to be some large object that's outside of our vision that's way, way past Pluto. So there's a thing called the Kuiper Belt that's outside-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:16 Yeah

Joe Rogan 37:17 ... of Pluto, and that's what part of what Pluto is-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:19 Yeah

Joe Rogan 37:19 ... which is why they decided it's not really-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:20 It's not a planet anymore

Joe Rogan 37:21 ... a planet anymore.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:21 But they think there's something else out there that's a lar- They call it Planet X. They think there, there's... It's a lot of like weird speculation whether or not it's real, but they think there might be a large body, larger than Earth, lar- like Jupiter size or something, like way out there.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:35 Wow.

Joe Rogan 37:35 And it might be a sun. It might be a burnt-out sun.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:37 Like a burnt-out sun that was-

Joe Rogan 37:38 Which is crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:40 Insane.

Joe Rogan 37:41 Well, Earth alone, like Earth, uh, the reason why we have the moon supposedly is 'cause Earth was hit by another planet. There's Earth One-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:47 So was the moon part of the Earth?

Joe Rogan 37:49 The, the moon was like a big chunk of that collision that burst off and then-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:55 Whoa

Joe Rogan 37:55 ... became the moon. So there's Earth One and Earth Two.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 37:57 So does that happen with all the planets? Like because all the planets that have their own moons are explosions maybe?

Joe Rogan 38:03 That's a quest- good question. I mean, maybe some of them are-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:06 Like Jupiter and Saturn have multiple

Joe Rogan 38:07 ... enormous asteroids that got caught in the gravity and, uh-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:10 Yeah

Joe Rogan 38:10 ... maybe of them.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:11 Maybe it's volcanic activity. I don't know. I think a lot of it's asteroid impacts too. They'd knock off giant chunks, and those chunks start orbiting that planet.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:20 So does that mean that all of those planets do have like a gravitational pull as well?

Joe Rogan 38:25 Oh, yeah. They all have-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:25 Right?

Joe Rogan 38:26 ... pull. Yeah. The, whatever-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:27 And how strong would that gravitational pull be?

Joe Rogan 38:30 Well, it depends on the mass of the planet. Like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:32 Like Jupiter, for example

Joe Rogan 38:33 ... yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:33 With the amount of-

Joe Rogan 38:33 Jupiter is what protects us. The reason why we don't get hit and a lot is because Jupiter's so big.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:39 'Cause it keeps-

Joe Rogan 38:39 So Jupiter has so much mass and so much gravity that it's like our big brother that like protects us.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:46 Oh, thanks, Jupiter. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 38:47 For real.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:48 Yeah, no, that's great.

Joe Rogan 38:49 And, uh, they obser-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 38:51 Good to know

Joe Rogan 38:51 ... they actually observed an impact on Jupiter, I wanna say it was in the 1980s, where an enormous asteroid slammed into Jupiter and created a Earth-sized explosion. An explosion is-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 39:03 Which separated from-

Joe Rogan 39:04 No, you could... It just got absorbed it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 39:05 But-

Joe Rogan 39:05 Jupiter just absorbed it. But they watched it in real time. It's-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 39:09 Oh, I, I didn't even know that

Joe Rogan 39:09 ... and it was a way bigger explosion than they thought it was gonna be. They're like, "Yo." [laughs] So then they have to like recalculate, like, "Oh, how big was that thing?" And w- it made a, a, a literal impact as large as the Earth.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 39:22 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 39:23 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 39:23 I have to see that video.

Joe Rogan 39:24 Well, that's the E- the solar system-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 39:26 That's crazy

Joe Rogan 39:26 ... is just a fucking shooting gallery.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 39:28 It's, it totally-

Joe Rogan 39:28 Which brings us back-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 39:30 It totally is

Joe Rogan 39:30 ... which brings us back to this Younger Dryas impact theory, which is one of the predominant theories as to why ancient super advanced civilizations completely disappeared and there's no evidence of them, and there's a lot of physical evidence. When they do core samples of the Earth, they find there's a lot of iridium, which is very common in space, but very rare on Earth, which indicates some sort of an impact.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 39:51 Wow.

Joe Rogan 39:52 And then they also find micro diamonds. These nuclear diamonds, they, the, it's, I think they call it trinitite, and they, they first observed this when they did the Trinity explosion. So the nuclear explosion created these micro diamonds on the ground-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 40:06 Mm-hmm

Joe Rogan 40:06 ... just some massive impact and explosion, heat, and energy. Well, they find those littered all throughout the world in this same core sample timeline of like 11,800 years.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 40:18 Wow.

Joe Rogan 40:18 So they think we were just bombarded. So a lot of these things like these temples in India, perhaps the pyramids, some structures that were stone, probably just survived.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 40:28 No, for sure.

Joe Rogan 40:29 And-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 40:29 There's so much that has survived, I think, from like a timeline-

Joe Rogan 40:34 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 40:34 ... we can't even explain. I mean, in India we, we see so much of it. So many of our texts, the Vedas are, you know, the oldest texts in the world. Um, and to be able to like read stories which now maybe we imagine are stories, but are probably reality of a civilization gone by-

Joe Rogan 40:53 Yes

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 40:53 ... is just crazy to think about.

Joe Rogan 40:55 I think more likely than not.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 40:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:58 I, I, and I think more and more over time, people are opening up, opening up to this possibility. Like they recently just found written language that is 28,000 years old, and that p- they thought that wr- human written language was created about 6,000 years ago, and they found evidence of language-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 41:16 I can read about this

Joe Rogan 41:17 ... So they're, they're like, "Okay." That's a giant difference.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 41:21 But how can we also know what happened in so many parts of the Earth when anyway the Earth was moving, right? Like the continents, what it looks-

Joe Rogan 41:29 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 41:29 ... like right now is not what it probably looked like 20,000 years ago. Like it, it's been slowly moving. I feel like how are we supposed to know, like someone who writes a book, say in Mexico, like what happened then in Australia, or what happened, what was the history in like India? You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 41:49 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 41:50 The-

Joe Rogan 41:50 Especially 15, you know, the 1500s-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 41:52 That many, yeah

Joe Rogan 41:52 ... 1600s

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 41:53 ... years ago.

Joe Rogan 41:54 When they were writing about stuff back then, they were just making shit up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 41:56 So the shit that we read-

Joe Rogan 41:58 Here it is. Human may have used these mysterious symbols to encode information tens of thousands of years before the first writing systems. 40,000 year old artifacts.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 42:09 Wow.

Joe Rogan 42:09 Yeah. So it's some kind of way of documenting things.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 42:13 Of communicating.

Joe Rogan 42:15 You know, if, if these people like Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson are correct, there was some sort of a very, very advanced civilization pre 11,800 years ago, and this also coincides with the end of the Ice Age. It coincides with, uh, all of the ice caps over North America disappearing. Like North America was covered, like three quarters of North America was covered-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 42:36 It's ice

Joe Rogan 42:36 ... with like a mile high sheet of ice, went away like that. That's why-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 42:39 Wow

Joe Rogan 42:39 ... the Great Lakes exist.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 42:41 Nice.

Joe Rogan 42:41 The Great Lakes are just that ice melting.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 42:43 Melted.

Joe Rogan 42:43 And then whatever was left just ran-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 42:45 And-

Joe Rogan 42:45 ... through the country, and you can see-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 42:48 And-

Joe Rogan 42:48 ... the physical evidence of it when they show satellite images. It looks like enormous amounts of water just destroyed the landscape and, and completely carved it and changed it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 42:56 What do you think happened with... And I, I wonder if you have, because you have so much extensive knowledge with the amazing guests that you have on the show, how did we go from Neanderthal or early manTo this technology-driven, like, really smart, intelligent... Like, what happened in, in history, in the evolution of human beings that we were able to make that switch so quick?

Joe Rogan 43:23 It's a real good question. There's a lot of, you know-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 43:26 I mean, I- I- I've heard theories, but I wanna know yours. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 43:30 I know. Um, if I didn't worry at all about being ridiculous, and I don't, uh, I would s-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 43:36 You don't. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 43:38 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 43:38 There was no need for that precursor.

Joe Rogan 43:40 But if I didn't worry about that-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 43:42 You don't care

Joe Rogan 43:42 ... I would say something helped us. I, I think-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 43:45 That's what I think.

Joe Rogan 43:46 Yeah. I don't think, I don't think it makes sense that it, that didn't take place.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 43:51 Yeah. It's crazy to think about how that happened and how quickly it happened.

Joe Rogan 43:55 Well, yeah. There's a, there's a lot of, like, weird stuff with us. Also, all those other primates are still around, except the early man ones, you know? That's what's weird. It's like, but why aren't, you know, how come chimpanzees are kinda the same? How come all these other, uh, primates are kind of the same, and yet we n- need clothes to stay warm now?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:15 Yeah, like a mammoth-

Joe Rogan 44:16 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:16 ... to an elephant.

Joe Rogan 44:17 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:17 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 44:18 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:18 Like, still similar.

Joe Rogan 44:20 Yeah, it makes sense.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:21 Why, how do we have, like, planes, and why do we like things, and how could we make cups and-

Joe Rogan 44:27 Yeah. Why do we change our environment that way?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:30 ... headphones and-

Joe Rogan 44:30 Why do we have this insatiable desire to innovate? Insatiable. Like we-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:35 Yeah

Joe Rogan 44:35 ... that's the number one thing that we do.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:37 Constantly changing.

Joe Rogan 44:37 Constantly making new and better things. Never satisfied with anything new. Everything has to be better. It doesn't matter how good your car is, what's the next year's model gonna be?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:46 Well, it doesn't matter what your phone does, I want better pictures, bitch.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:48 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 44:48 Like, no matter what, [laughs] there's always like, we, we want something to be better all the time, and it's like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:53 We can one-up what we had.

Joe Rogan 44:55 But I think-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 44:55 What is that?

Joe Rogan 44:55 ... I think it's built into us, and I think that is a part of this process of becoming a human being, and I think it's leading us to develop AI. That's what I really think. But I, I think we most likely, something intervened. Now, there's a lot of people that think, the rational people think that it was the invention of fire and the cooking of food that gave us better access to nutrition and protein, and then innovating in order to hunt allowed the brain-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 45:25 But it was such an accelerated period of ti- It went, like, so quickly.

Joe Rogan 45:29 The, the human brain size doubled over a period of two million years, which is the greatest mystery in it, in the entire fossil record.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 45:35 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 45:35 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 45:36 Like, what made that happen?

Joe Rogan 45:38 We don't know. But in religious texts-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 45:42 Yeah

Joe Rogan 45:42 ... ancient religious texts, there's many stories of human beings breeding with something from somewhere else. That's a part of th-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 45:52 Alien intervention.

Joe Rogan 45:53 Yes. Yes.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 45:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 45:54 Some-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 45:54 Without trying to sound ridiculous. Don't come at me please

Joe Rogan 45:56 ... hyper-intelligent life form.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 45:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:58 But if you think about it, if-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 45:59 I was watching a show about that, and I was like, "That makes sense."

Joe Rogan 46:02 What was the show you were watching? Do you remember?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 46:04 Ancient Aliens. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 46:08 [laughs] That show's the best.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 46:11 It's so good.

Joe Rogan 46:11 It's so silly.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 46:12 It's amazing.

Joe Rogan 46:13 There's a-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 46:13 But I was, at, like, 2:00 in the morning, I'm like, "Oh."

Joe Rogan 46:16 My friend Action Bronson-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 46:18 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 46:18 ... he used to do a show. He doesn't do that show anymore, does he? They would get super baked and watch Ancient Aliens.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 46:23 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 46:23 They'd be like, "Bro." [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 46:25 Listen, Ancient Aliens is, is rad.

Joe Rogan 46:28 Yes.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 46:28 I love that show. [laughs] 2:00 in the morning.

Joe Rogan 46:29 Oh, it's fun.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 46:30 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 46:30 It's very fun. I think they're right about some of those things. I think there's something to it. I mean, that is one of the, the oldest, uh, biblical texts that wasn't included in the canon that is the Bible is the Book of Enoch, and, uh, uh, I had Ana Paulina Luna on the podcast, and she was, she brought that up-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 46:51 Mm-hmm

Joe Rogan 46:51 ... and I was like, she was like, "You really should read that." So I read it, and you start reading and you're like, "Wait, what the hell are they talking about? The Watchers came down from the sky to mate with humans and created the Nephilim, a, a race of giants that destroyed the earth?" You're like, "What are you talking about?" Like, what is this? This is in the Bible, and it would've been in the Bible if not for a few rabbis that decided this doesn't jive with the Torah, and so they said, "We gotta get that out of there." And that's why it's not taught along with the Book of Ezekiel and all these other things that are in the Old Testament.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 47:24 Wow. Versus, like, in, in Hindu mythology also, you know, we read about a time where god, human, and demon existed at the same time and procreated-

Joe Rogan 47:36 Mm

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 47:36 ... and, like, created different realms and, you know, life and stories-

Joe Rogan 47:41 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 47:41 ... and the, and the... You know, so it's like when you think about stories like that, stories, beliefs, you know, from around the world that have similar sort of, um, color-

Joe Rogan 47:54 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 47:54 ... it's almost like trying to connect the dots of what must have happened at that time, you know, all around the world.

Joe Rogan 48:01 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 48:01 It's probably the same thing, you know?

Joe Rogan 48:03 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 48:03 Some sort of incredible technology.

Joe Rogan 48:06 Yeah. And some, and, and, and a lot of them have these stories of something, of some kind of higher nature, higher power, higher technology intervening in the lives of human beings, and even manipulating the, the process of evolution.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 48:25 Yeah, but isn't that what I think was referred to as the gods?

Joe Rogan 48:29 Yes.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 48:29 I mean, like, if you think about the Roman, um, you know, or Egyptian, like, gods. I'm no one to speak about culture, but I, I can't even say about ours, but that power that we read about, you know? That, like, if you, if you go into it, I'm, I'm a big believer, so I think that, you know, was that, like, a real experi- experience that happened to a human being at that time?

Joe Rogan 48:54 It's probably a real experience with someone that had a limited vocabulary, a limited amount of knowledge, and a limited ability to write things down.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 49:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:01 And so they probably sto- told these stories from whatever words they could use to describe what this was. Like, if you were living 30 m-... thousand years ago, 40,000 years ago, and a UFO landed

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 49:14 Yeah

Joe Rogan 49:14 ... a giant metallic disc landed, and little tiny creatures came out and talked to you telepathically. You don't have a written language. You don't, y- your, your culture-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 49:24 How do you-

Joe Rogan 49:24 ... is hunter-gatherers. Like, how do you even-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 49:26 Tell that story

Joe Rogan 49:27 ... how do you tell that story, and what are the people that you told that story to gonna tell their children and their grandchildren for many, many, many, many generations before anybody figures out how to write things down?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 49:38 Totally. But other, another perspective on this which people have is, is that our pragmatic, practical 2026 human trying to explain something that was magical and did exist at a time that we, we, we don't have an explanation for.

Joe Rogan 49:56 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 49:56 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 49:57 For sure.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 49:57 Like, there's the other side of that with people that, you know, you hear so many stories of visitations from the gods back then, you know, to humans, and the divinity of, at, at, at least in my country for sure, um, of different avatars of gods coming down to earth to save humankind and-

Joe Rogan 50:18 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 50:18 ... to help in human salvation and to he- help them, um, against evil. So when you hear of those stories, like, the practical side of me will be like, "Are those human stories, and who is that, that power that they were seeing at that time?" And then there's a side of you which is like, there's so much we can't explain and sometimes have to, like, leave it to inexplicable magic of the universe. Like, I am someone who loves science, but I also am a believer of that just can't explain everything.

Joe Rogan 50:52 Well, even science itself, like hardcore materialist science-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 50:58 Totally

Joe Rogan 50:58 ... if you're trying to explain the Big Bang, good fucking luck.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 51:02 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 51:03 Good fucking luck-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 51:03 Yeah

Joe Rogan 51:04 ... making sense out of something smaller than the head of a pin that became everything that's in the universe. Okay.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 51:09 Like [laughs] explain that to me.

Joe Rogan 51:10 Help me out. [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 51:13 [laughs] Totally. That's what I mean it's-

Joe Rogan 51:14 They can't. There's, I mean, it's all theoretical and-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 51:16 Yeah

Joe Rogan 51:16 ... speculative, and it's, that no one really knows. And then there's this concept of what took place before the Big Bang, and then there's Sir Roger Penrose's version of it, which is, there's been many versions of the Big Bang, expansion, then contraction, and that it's not the beginning, that it's part of an endless cycle.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 51:33 That's what I've, I mean, I've heard from in India as well, the believer, belief that that was not kind of the beginning. There's been many beginnings and many ends that-

Joe Rogan 51:42 That makes more sense

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 51:42 ... we have no idea of.

Joe Rogan 51:44 That makes more sense to me.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 51:45 You know?

Joe Rogan 51:45 It makes more sense 'cause I think the problem with a beginning, we're like, "Well, what was here originally?" We always wanna think of things in terms of our own biological limitations. We have a birth and we have a death, so we think that the universe probably had a birth.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 51:57 Everything has a limitation.

Joe Rogan 51:58 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 51:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:58 But why? It's there. It's, so it may-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 52:00 Like time.

Joe Rogan 52:01 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 52:01 What is time's limitation?

Joe Rogan 52:03 Right. Well-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 52:03 It's existed from who knows when. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 52:05 Right. It's constant. It's never not been here.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 52:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:09 So the idea that there was nothing before the universe, well, that doesn't even make sense.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 52:13 It's funny, when I was doing research for The Bluff, this movie, um, I went to the Cayman Islands for a couple of days to get an understanding of the history of the islands. And the Caribbean is so interesting, especially Cayman, because it's in the, it's in the middle of these trading routes between Honduras, Cuba, Mexico. So ships, when trading started, is when the Cayman was discovered, the islands were discovered. So when I went down there, I went to the museum, and they said, "Yeah, it was like the 1700s or 1800s when the first settlers came," and, um, you know, it started with family or, or, or, like, people trying to run away or pirates or, you know, just people making pit stops before going to another, another country. And they said that that was the first time that there was any history of the island. And I was like, "How's that possible that only when, like, settlers found that pla-" And now, I mean, Cayman Islands is Cayman Islands.

Joe Rogan 53:10 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 53:11 But how... Like, if you think about it, there's so many places in the world where people and humans have existed way before we even have an understanding of or are willing to acknowledge. You know, in many-

Joe Rogan 53:25 For sure

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 53:26 ... cultures it's different.

Joe Rogan 53:26 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 53:27 But, um, it's-

Joe Rogan 53:28 Or we just lost the history of it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 53:29 Yeah

Joe Rogan 53:30 That's possible, too.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 53:31 That's what my argument was. I was like-

Joe Rogan 53:32 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 53:32 ... it's, you know, like, we have to have lost the history of what happened prior.

Joe Rogan 53:38 There, there's an entire culture from South America that we don't know who they were, the Olmecs. They, we have some-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 53:44 Really?

Joe Rogan 53:44 ... giant carved heads, and we're like, "Oh, who did that?" They think it's like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 53:50 Where does that come from?

Joe Rogan 53:50 ... they've, thousands and thousands of years old. They look African. It's very strange.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 53:55 Wow.

Joe Rogan 53:55 Have you s- have you ever seen Olmec heads?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 53:57 I love them.

Joe Rogan 53:57 Oh, here.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 53:57 Can you show me?

Joe Rogan 53:58 They look like this. That's an Olmec head. Like, how nuts is that? Like, that's a replica of these enormous heads-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 54:05 Wow

Joe Rogan 54:05 ... that are in, um, I think, is it Peru?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 54:08 I actually really wanna go to Peru.

Joe Rogan 54:08 Luke Caverns, who's, uh, been on the podcast-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 54:11 Yeah

Joe Rogan 54:12 ... who's a really fascinating guy who does a lot of, uh, research down there, he, uh, he's been there and documented, and he's like, "They don't know who these people were. They don't know what their language was. They don't even know what they look like except for these images, and they don't even know if these images are supposed to be of them," like these statues. They just found... See if you can find some of these heads so you can see, like, the, the, um, scale-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 54:36 So crazy

Joe Rogan 54:37 ... of them. So they left these enormous stone heads they attributed to this one civilization that they call the Olmecs. They just made a name up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 54:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 54:44 But they don't know who the hell these people were. And look at their faces.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 54:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:48 Like, that's crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 54:51 That's huge.

Joe Rogan 54:52 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 54:53 And do you know how old these might be?

Joe Rogan 54:55 They don't really know, but I think the... How many thousands of years-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 54:58 And they were just-

Joe Rogan 54:59 ... old do they think they are, Jamie? Crazy stuff.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:06 So at least-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:08 900

Joe Rogan 55:09 ... 900 BC.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:10 BC.

Joe Rogan 55:10 But, you know, what does that mean?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:11 Yeah. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 55:12 That's a guess.That's a guess, 'cause they don't know anything

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:14 But like a long time ago, B.C

Joe Rogan 55:15 ... a long time ago.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:17 Wow.

Joe Rogan 55:17 Well, even the Aztecs. Do you know the Aztecs didn't build those temples? They found them.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:23 The Aztecs found that-

Joe Rogan 55:24 They found them

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:24 ... the Aztec temples?

Joe Rogan 55:25 They found them from an unknown previous civilization.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:29 Oh my God, wow.

Joe Rogan 55:30 Yeah. They called those temples the place where the gods were born.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:35 That's what they called them.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:35 Wow.

Joe Rogan 55:35 And they just kinda like cleaned it up. Which kinda makes sense, 'cause you think of like how barbaric the Aztecs were.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 55:41 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 55:42 Like, they, they did some horrific shit. Like, we were talking about one of the, the temples, I think it was Tenochtitlan. When they consecrated it, um, they killed between 20 and 80,000 people, they sacrificed them, in a period of four days. And so this is like right when the Spanish were first visiting Mexico thinking about taking over, and this s- this guy, Diaz, this Spanish chronicler, said, "It was the fucking craziest thing. They killed 80,000 people," he said, "over a period of four days."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 56:13 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 56:13 Just cut their hearts out and threw their bodies down the stairs. Like, nuts. This episode is brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. April 15th is coming fast. There's been so many tax law changes this year, which means you're going to need an expert who has your back. You're in luck. TurboTax now has in-person locations nationwide. Walk into their tech-enabled stores and meet face-to-face with a TurboTax full-service expert who will get your best outcome. Your expert works to get you every dollar you deserve while updating you as you go about your day. Head to turbotax.com to find a store near you. N- like so these are the people that were-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 56:57 Yeah, you think about like how countries were, like conquests happen, and like, you know, we're living in the history of so many people's blood and-

Joe Rogan 57:09 Oh

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 57:09 ... and sacrifices. It's-

Joe Rogan 57:11 And violence

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 57:12 And so much violence

Joe Rogan 57:13 ... the unfathomable amount of violence.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 57:15 How are humans so capable of that kind of vi- like, of violence?

Joe Rogan 57:19 I think-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 57:19 Having done a really violent movie right now

Joe Rogan 57:21 ... because chimps, 'cause we're mostly chimp.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 57:24 Mm.

Joe Rogan 57:24 And I think if you pay attention to chimps, like have you ever seen-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 57:27 Chimp behavior, yeah

Joe Rogan 57:28 ... Chimp Nation on Netflix?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 57:30 No, I haven't.

Joe Rogan 57:30 It's fantast- fantastic.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 57:32 Yeah, I wanna see it.

Joe Rogan 57:33 It's just, it's spectacular because it is a rare, very rare situation where this one particular group of chimpanzees, they were embedded with these scientists for 20 years. So the scientists had very specific rules: don't get within 20 yards of them.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 57:48 Mm.

Joe Rogan 57:48 Don't make eye contact with them. Don't have any food with you.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 57:50 Okay.

Joe Rogan 57:51 And don't, don't interfere. And they're, they're totally accustomed to having people around them, so they behave totally naturally.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 57:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:58 And so they wage war, they have all these like crazy social dynamics that they observe.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 58:01 So they behave like they would in the wild-

Joe Rogan 58:03 Exactly

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 58:03 ... because they're used to these humans.

Joe Rogan 58:05 Exactly. And when you watch it you're like, "Oh my God, they are a lot like us." They're a lot like us, just like very primitive, no language, but, but ultra violent. Ultra... chimps are ultra violent. I mean, the, one of their favorite foods, this guy was telling me, was monkeys. They just love eating monkeys. He goes, "We saw them kill so many monkeys we couldn't even document it."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 58:28 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 58:28 He goes, " 'Cause if it would just be like, every day was like a monkey hunt."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 58:30 [gasps]

Joe Rogan 58:31 They would tear these monkeys apart and eat them alive. It's horrific.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 58:35 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 58:35 That's, that's our ancestors. So what we are is a combination, like if, if you can-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 58:40 Well, that explains it. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 58:41 Yeah, this explains it. We're a combination of some higher intelligence that interbred with a savage primate that's curious, and created this weird hybrid, this weird thing that-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 58:53 Listen, that's what ancient aliens told me.

Joe Rogan 58:55 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 58:56 And I believe it. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 58:57 I think they're right. [laughs] They're right about that. Have you ever seen Chariots of the Gods?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 59:02 No.

Joe Rogan 59:02 That's the original one. Erich von Däniken. That was in like the 1970s. It was a, a f- a movie, like a feature movie.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 59:09 No, I'm, I mean, I remember the movie, but I don't remember having seen it.

Joe Rogan 59:11 Yeah. I had lunch with him once, got a chance to question him about stuff. He's a, like a true believer.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 59:18 Yeah, what does he believe?

Joe Rogan 59:18 Like a true believer.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 59:19 What are, what are his beliefs?

Joe Rogan 59:20 Well, he believes that everything is from aliens, that aliens came down and aliens taught people how to do things, and aliens built all these things, and... I'm more in line of they intervened and created what we think of now as humans, and then humans figured out a different path of technology than we're on today. That we are on the path of internal combustion engines, electronics, electricity, and they were probably on some different path of technology, but as far down the path, if not more. And I think they probably had figured out some things that we have yet to figure out, including like the trans- the, the, the, the transferring and the moving and shipping of enormous stone blocks-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:08 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 ... without heavy machinery. Like, we don't know what they were doing.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:12 Teleportation.

Joe Rogan 1:00:13 Yeah, what did they-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:13 I don't know

Joe Rogan 1:00:14 ... what, how did they-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:15 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:00:15 ... cut them? Like, what are they, what are they, what... If those structures that Filippo Biondi describes under- if that's real, like what was the pyramid then?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:24 And how-

Joe Rogan 1:00:24 Was it a machine?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:25 Yeah, how did they do, like first they created the structure, like imagine the foundation and the design that went into it.

Joe Rogan 1:00:33 A half a mile deep into the earth.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:36 Crazy. Crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:00:36 Like, what is that? What are you doing? [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:38 That's what I'm saying. I, I don't know if I, like... I just know that we can't explain that quick evolution-

Joe Rogan 1:00:45 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:46 ... of humans from Neanderthal to-

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 We can't. And all-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:50 And highly intelligent.

Joe Rogan 1:00:52 Yes, we can't.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:53 I mean, there's just a lot of people saying, "Well, we haven't filled in the gaps yet."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:00:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:56 "We don't really know." But the, the acceleration of the evolution is so spectacular. Like vegans are hilarious.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:02 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:01:02 They attribute it to people eating tubers.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:04 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 I had a conversation with a guy who's like, "We're thinking it's probably tubers." Like what, roots?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:08 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 You mean like bears eat? Shut the fuck up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:10 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:01:10 That is the dumbest expl- that didn't even make any sense.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:13 I'm vegan.

Joe Rogan 1:01:14 Are you really?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:14 No, I'm joking. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:01:15 Congratulations. [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:17 No, I'm not

Joe Rogan 1:01:17 There's no way you just-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:19 I just, no, I just had barbecue-

Joe Rogan 1:01:19 You would already fall asleep. [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:21 For breakfast, I had brisket. [laughs] I was like, "I'm here in Austin for two hours."

Joe Rogan 1:01:25 Yeah, you have to have barbecue if you come here.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:28 Um, I just think that whatever happened, we don't know, and, um, I would not rule out intervention, and I wouldn't think that an intelligent species from somewhere else, if they did find these very curious primates that may already be working with sticks and rocks and stuff like that, that they wouldn't intervene. Because we'd do it. We're doing it right now.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:50 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:01:50 We're doing it right now with animals.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:51 We would def- it's human nature to do it.

Joe Rogan 1:01:52 Hundred... If we went to a-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:01:53 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 ... planet somewhere and we found some fucking frogs or some weird animals, but nothing big, we might drop a deer off in there and see what happens.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:02:03 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:02:03 You know, we might bring some birds in. Look, th- this-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:02:06 Humans definitely would. We would intervene.

Joe Rogan 1:02:08 They're doing genetic manipulation of animals right now to bring back extinct life.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:02:12 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:02:12 Th- that's how they brought back the, the, the, uh, dire wolf, this company called Colossal, Colossal Bioworks. They... I saw it. I touched it. I went to-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:02:22 Like-

Joe Rogan 1:02:22 Yes. I went to the place where they're holding these wolves, and I got to, me and my daughter, got to cuddle with a baby dire wolf. They had two semi-adults at the time. I think they were, like, eight or nine months old.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:02:36 And they've been extinct since when?

Joe Rogan 1:02:38 10,000 years.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:02:40 Stop it.

Joe Rogan 1:02:40 Yeah. Some- somewhere in the range of that. I mean-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:02:44 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 1:02:45 Yeah. When did dire wolves go extinct? I think they were part of the megafauna that went extinct during the impact. Because 65% of all megafauna on, uh, on Earth, and particularly in North America, went extinct around the same time. Wooly mammoths-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:00 And do we know why around the same time?

Joe Rogan 1:03:03 We don't. There's a lot of hypotheses.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:03 Like, was there something that happened then?

Joe Rogan 1:03:05 The rational people, not me-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:07 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:03:07 ... but the rational people think it was the berserker theory.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:10 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 1:03:10 Uh, which means that human beings killed so many mammoths that we wiped them out to extinction. But-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:16 Unbelievable

Joe Rogan 1:03:16 ... this is with atlatls. Like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:18 Right

Joe Rogan 1:03:18 ... it doesn't make total sense.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:19 Okay, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:20 It's like, how did you get... There's not even that many people. How'd you do that?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:24 And then there's also stuff like the American lion, which was bigger than the African lion.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:28 How'd, how'd we kill that off with a fucking stick? Like, shut the fuck up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:31 Something-

Joe Rogan 1:03:32 Something big

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:33 ... had to have happened.

Joe Rogan 1:03:34 Well, they found-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:35 Geolog-

Joe Rogan 1:03:35 ... mass grave sites of, uh, mammoths, where there's, like, hundreds of them dead all in one place that seem to have died at the same time. Not only that, some of them have broken legs. It seems to impact some... It, it seems to indicate some great impact-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:46 Yeah, so it had to have been, like, some-

Joe Rogan 1:03:47 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:48 ... like, asteroid or some- something that-

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:51 ... created that kind of impact immediately.

Joe Rogan 1:03:53 But 65% of all North American megafauna died at the same time.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:03:58 That's so crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:03:58 Yeah, within the time period, and they think... The, the Younger Dryas impact theory people think, like, this is not a coincidence, that this coincides with the end of the Ice Age, and also coincides with where the core samples indicate we were hit.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:04:12 Too many coincidences.

Joe Rogan 1:04:13 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:04:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:14 And also the co- coincides with the, the fact that these animals w- were all here at one point in time. They all got wiped out except but very few. There's only a few left. Like, there's, uh, the pronghorn antelope, which is a really weird one. It's this prehistoric antelope that lives-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:04:30 Mm-hmm

Joe Rogan 1:04:30 ... in North America, and it's different than every other animal here because it's evolved to get away from cheetahs. 'Cause we used to have cheetahs in North America. So it can run, like, 55 mile-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:04:41 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:04:41 It fucking books.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:04:43 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:04:43 I've seen them in real life. They're really weird looking. They look prehistoric.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:04:46 But can run.

Joe Rogan 1:04:47 They fly.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:04:49 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:04:49 That's what it looks like. See if you can get a look at its face. When you see it head-on, they're so strange. Like, their eyeballs are on the sides of their heads 'cause something was coming at them, like, you know, 55 miles an hour at full clip, and so they're really, really alert, and they have incredible vision.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:05:07 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:05:07 And that's a leftover animal. That's a leftover animal from a time where they were being preyed upon by something that doesn't exist anymore, and that something was wiped out along with the American lion. Well, a bigger lion than the African lion lived right here.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:05:23 That's huge.

Joe Rogan 1:05:24 Yeah, it's huge.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:05:24 That's crazy. I was filming in Africa recently, in Kenya, and we... for this m- Indian movie I'm doing called Varanasi, um, and we shot with wildebeests, and, like, as in, like, in, in the middle of them. I was in... Me and my co-actor Mahesh were in the middle of these wildebeests that were all around us while they were migrating.

Joe Rogan 1:05:45 Whoa.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:05:45 It's, like, the coolest thing I've ever seen, but when you see their faces, and for how many years versions of them have existed, you know, you feel the gravity when you, um, see these animals in-

Joe Rogan 1:05:59 In the wild

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:05:59 ... in the wild.

Joe Rogan 1:06:00 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:00 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:06:01 It's so much different than a zoo, right?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:03 Oh, completely.

Joe Rogan 1:06:04 Because you're like, "Oh, they've always been here like this."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:06 "This is how-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:06 This is their home

Joe Rogan 1:06:07 ... this is what they do."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:08 We're in it. You, you-

Joe Rogan 1:06:09 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:09 ... feel a sense of, like, stay in your Jeep. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:06:12 Well, I think we're numb to it because we watch it on film, and so then we get sort of desensitized and normalized to this idea of wildlife. Oh, there's the lion sneaking up on the wildebeest. How cool.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:23 But when you're there and y- you see a lion or you see a wildebeest, you're like, "This is fucking crazy."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:28 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:06:28 Like, this is all day long, every day, these life forms competing to try to exist and stay alive.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:33 To survive. That's it, like-

Joe Rogan 1:06:34 And there's this weird balance where all of them, you know-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:36 They still exist.

Joe Rogan 1:06:37 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:38 They can... There'll be wildebeests right there, and there'll be a lion right here who's eaten, so they're hanging out together. The wildebeest knows that he's eaten. He's not coming after us, and they exist. But at the same time, they're, you know, during hunting season, you see the hunt happen, and I saw a hunt happen, and that's, that's crazy that that's their life.

Joe Rogan 1:06:58 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:06:58 Survival.

Joe Rogan 1:06:59 With, with their face.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:07:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:00 They kill things with their face.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:07:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:02 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:07:02 Like, literally a... Crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:07:03 Well, there's a really extraordinary island in Africa where the river changed courses, and it left this r- this one, uh, pack of lions on this one island that only has water buffalo on itAnd so these lions became enormous.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:07:20 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:07:20 And the f- the female lions are as big as male lions everywhere else.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:07:24 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:07:24 And the male lions are way bigger than they are anywhere else. I think there's a... The documentary, I think it's called Relentless Enemies, but it's so f-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:07:30 Wow

Joe Rogan 1:07:30 ... 'cause they look like these jacked bodybuilder lions.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:07:33 Those water buffaloes are huge.

Joe Rogan 1:07:36 Huge and hyper-aggressive.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:07:37 I had one staring at me, like, we were in Kenya. Um, like, the video villagers said they were filming, and it's far away, but it just turned its head and just looked at me, and then just kept looking at me. And I swear, I had to, like, get up and get out of its view, 'cause it just kept staring. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:07:53 Yeah, they wanna get into you.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:07:53 I was like, "It's coming at me."

Joe Rogan 1:07:54 They will come at you.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:07:55 Yeah, for sure.

Joe Rogan 1:07:56 They kill people. Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:07:57 The rangers told us. They were like, "Uh, I think he's engaged with you maybe."

Joe Rogan 1:08:00 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:08:02 [laughs] "Maybe get out of here. Get into your car." [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:08:05 [laughs] Yeah, there's that poor lady from... Who, she was a video editor on the Game of Thrones, and she went to do a safari there, and it pulled... One, one of the lions pulled her out of her car.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:08:15 Out of her car?

Joe Rogan 1:08:16 Yeah, she rolled the window down, or someone rolled the window down, and, uh, a female lion just snatched her out of the car and killed her.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:08:24 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 1:08:25 Yeah. Yeah, it's not-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:08:26 You have to listen to your rangers-

Joe Rogan 1:08:28 Yeah, listen

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:08:29 ... when you're in these situations.

Joe Rogan 1:08:30 Exactly.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:08:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:31 Yeah. I mean, maybe she wanted a better picture or something. I don't know what the circumstances-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:08:34 Yeah, that's the shit that gets people into trouble.

Joe Rogan 1:08:36 Oh, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:08:37 Like, there was this... One of our rangers was telling us a story that they have... We were in Masai Mara, and they were like, they have open Jeeps and, you know, you have food that they keep really hidden so that the animals can't smell it under your seats and stuff. And he was telling a story about this influencer. He's driving and, you know, there's a pack of lions. Lion's just eaten, so he's sleeping. And this influencer, who puts his hand outside to try and touch the lion's head, and got it on video, and survived to tell the story.

Joe Rogan 1:09:08 Oh.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:09 And then he was banned, and then the ranger was, like, fired from his job.

Joe Rogan 1:09:12 Oh.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:12 And all of that happened, but for the image. [laughs] Can you imagine?

Joe Rogan 1:09:15 What a fucking idiot.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:16 What an idiot. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:09:17 All for the 'Gram.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:19 [gasps] Oh my gosh, that was crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:09:21 God.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:21 I mean, they're... I mean, I don't want anything bad to happen to anybody, but when someone does something like that and does get killed, it's probably better.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:31 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 1:09:32 Educationally for the human race. Like, don't-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:34 But is it though? Or are we, are we really learning from other people and their examples?

Joe Rogan 1:09:38 Some people aren't learning shit.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:40 Nobody's learning shit. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:09:42 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:42 People, we are just trying to put the be- best versions of ourselves on the 'Gram. Like, that's what the-

Joe Rogan 1:09:47 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:47 ... that's what's happening right now.

Joe Rogan 1:09:48 Well-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:49 Whether it's true or not.

Joe Rogan 1:09:50 Yeah. But are we learning? Yeah, it's a good question.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:09:54 I don't know. I mean, I think we are also so desensitized to... There's so much information that comes your way, and misinformation now, where being able to discern what's real and what's not now, that's hard as well.

Joe Rogan 1:10:05 Oh, it's harder than it's ever been.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:10:06 Totally. Uh, and then if you do watch something and you're like, "I'm gonna implement in my life," we do it for a very short duration. Very few of us follow through with that, right? Like, you're watching a reel or somebody says something and you're like, "That's really cool." Are we going to pull on that thread, and follow through, and do something about it, or learn from it? I don't know. I feel like we've lost a lot of that, um, space where we had the time or the desire to want to, you know, fulfill ourselves versus just that, that with so much coming at you, you have to be able to-

Joe Rogan 1:10:43 Well, I think collectively as a society, I think we learn, and then we forget, and then we have to relearn again.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:10:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:50 You know, that's, that's sort of the way it is.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:10:51 But the attention span now, where, you know, I remember when I was growing up, like, just having the languidity of time, right? In a, in a, in a very different way, and this is like, say, 30 years ago, 30, 35 years ago, of, um, you know, reading a book, music playing, hanging out with your parents or your friends without being rushed. Just rushed, you know? I, I don't remember feeling as rushed as I do now in the last 20 years, um, when I was growing up. Like, there was time for stuff.

Joe Rogan 1:11:28 Yeah. Well, well, certainly the internet has accelerated that, you know? And certainly people's attention spans, um, are at least pulled in the direction of short attention span content. But at the same time, podcasts have emerged-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:11:45 It's-

Joe Rogan 1:11:45 ... which is interesting.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:11:46 It's so interesting. Like, I was talking about this to a friend of mine, like, people who have no time or interest in wanting to commit to, like, say, a movie or some, will watch or listen to, like, a podcast for-

Joe Rogan 1:11:58 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:11:59 ... two or three hours. And for someone like me, who, you know, like, I've been an actor for most of my life, my interface with people would be, you know, an interview. Say, for example, people who knew me or audiences that wanted to know about me, would be an interview, um, where, you know, the highlights are really what you read. The clickbait lines are really what you read, and you form a relationship with whoever this public person is based on those few lines versus this format, where you're just chatting for a few hours, and you have the ability to really be yourself and be seen as yourself, which is why I think people really love podcasts.

Joe Rogan 1:12:39 Well, I think it's much more illuminating in terms of-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:12:41 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:12:41 ... if you wanna, like, find out who a person really is.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:12:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:12:44 'Cause you can't really hide for three hours. Like, that's who you are.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:12:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:12:48 And I think for most people, that's scary, right? And so what they like about those fake shows, like Good Morning America or whatever it is.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:12:58 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:12:58 You know what I mean? Like, you're sitting down, you know, the guy's got a piece of paper, so he's got a few-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:13:02 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:13:02 ... questions he's gonna ask you, and they're all gonna be, like, very surface, very jovial. "What's it like to be married?" You know, "What's it like to do this? What's it like to do that? Oh, so you had a baby, congratulations," that kind of shit, and then you're out of there. It's 10 minutes, and you're like, "Oh, that went well," and then nobody knows anything about you.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:13:18 It's true, that you're just basically known by the top-... four questions that everybody asks you.

Joe Rogan 1:13:23 Yeah. Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:13:23 So it's, like, the same four questions that everybody asks.

Joe Rogan 1:13:26 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:13:26 Um, and-

Joe Rogan 1:13:27 It's what was it like to work with this person?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:13:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:13:29 What was she like in person? What was he like?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:13:31 For me, mostly, it's, like, a lot about my family. Like, it, it's like that, my identity starts there.

Joe Rogan 1:13:37 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:13:37 And then everything else comes after.

Joe Rogan 1:13:40 Well, y- you're fascinating in that you- you've done movies in two different cultures. So, like, I wanted to ask you about that.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:13:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:13:46 Like, what is the Bollywood scene like? 'Cause I wasn't even aware of it until, like, 20 years ago. I didn't know that, like, Bollywood is, like, this enormous... Like, the amount of films that are produced in India is kind of crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:14:00 Yeah. Um-

Joe Rogan 1:14:01 It's a big business.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:14:02 Huge.

Joe Rogan 1:14:03 Huge.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:14:03 100 and something years of Indian cinema just recently.

Joe Rogan 1:14:07 Wow.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:14:07 Um, so a very, very old industry. Um, we started with silent movies and have worked our way now to... And that's not just Bollywood. I'll break that down in a second. Because India is so diverse and we have so many different languages, again, excuse me, I didn't know the exact number, but, um, we have local industries that make movies in those languages. So Bollywood is, um, Bombay. It comes from Bombay. I think that's why it was coined that name, from Hollywood. But, but the Bombay movie industry, again, it was not us that, that... It was a name that was given to us. I don't know by who. But Bollywood is the Hindi language industry which exists in Mumbai, um, which is like LA. It's huge. It's, you know, we make thousands and thousands of movies. But then there is also Telugu, Tamil, um, Punjabi, Malayalam, Marathi, um, Bhojpuri. These are all robust industries that are localized within every state that also exist. So cumulatively, we make thousands and thousands of movies a year, but it's catered to very, very different audiences within the diversity of India.

Joe Rogan 1:15:16 Wow. And how many people have come from India, like you, and become stars in Western movies?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:15:24 I think there have been a few before me, you know, that have, uh, done work-

Joe Rogan 1:15:28 You're the first one I heard of, so [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:15:30 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:15:30 No one's made it to me yet.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:15:32 Well, thank you. Um, yes, I think that it's been few and far in between. I think America is a really hard country to break into, uh, to be relevant in. It's, uh, tough. And also, like, I think Hollywood, um, controls a large part of the global entertainment business. So as an actor from anywhere in the world, if you wanna break into the English language, global entertainment, Hollywood system, um, it's not easy to, to do that. Uh, you know, culturally, it's different. Language is different. Jokes are different.

Joe Rogan 1:16:07 Mm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:16:08 Um, so that's a tough transition, but it's also, like, for me, I, I really... I, I went to high school. Oh, by the way, you went to Newton, and I went to Newton, too.

Joe Rogan 1:16:19 Did you really? Which-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:16:19 I went to Newton North, you went to Newton South.

Joe Rogan 1:16:21 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:16:22 How crazy is that?

Joe Rogan 1:16:22 That's funny. That's crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:16:23 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:16:24 Small world.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:16:24 Yeah, so I was in, I was in high school in the States, and I... You know, so it wasn't, like, alien to me. It's not like I was in India and I was like, "I wanna go to America and start working there." Um, I really wanted to see what it would be like if I came down here. Would there be an opportunity for someone like me to, you know, be able to create an impact? Um, and many years later, I feel like, you know, I'm, I'm on my way there. Uh, but there have been so many actors whose shoulders I've stood on. So Indian, like, Indian casting in English language entertainment, whether it was Hollywood or, you know, British entertainment, wherever, was usually, by us, seen as, you know, a diversity check.

Joe Rogan 1:17:09 Mm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:17:09 So it was mostly a stereotypical actor or a stereotypical character with an actor having to speak in the accent or having to, like-

Joe Rogan 1:17:17 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:17:17 ... do the-

Joe Rogan 1:17:18 Work at 7-Eleven

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:17:18 ... be a little bit more Indian. What does that even mean? Like [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:17:21 Did someone tell you that?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:17:22 I was told in an audition, "I think we need the character to be a little bit more Indian." And I just, like, didn't even understand what-

Joe Rogan 1:17:30 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:17:30 There's so many versions of that, but I think what the-

Joe Rogan 1:17:33 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:17:34 ... like, this person meant was, have a little bit more of the accent and speak a little bit-

Joe Rogan 1:17:37 Yeah, be a character.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:17:38 Yeah, be the character, which was really tough to break out of. So, you know, at a time when it was only that work that existed in Hollywood, like, those are the actors whose shoulders I stand on. Like, those were the ones that went in and did that work because that was all that was available and, you know, tried to break through, um, especially from, like, India, for example, uh, Aishwarya Rai, um, Amitabh Bachchan, Irrfan Khan. They've been actors that have come in, done work, and, you know, left an amazing mark. But I moved here. I live here now. Um, and, you know, I'm, I'm consistently working here. I think that also may have been a part of why you've heard of me. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:18:20 Yes. I'm sure. Well, I've, I've seen you interviewed, too, which is why I thought you were interesting. But-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:18:25 Thank you. I appreciate that.

Joe Rogan 1:18:26 You're welcome. Um, but it's-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:18:28 I think you're very interesting. I think your, um, knowledge of the world is fascinating to me.

Joe Rogan 1:18:33 Well, um, it's all accidental.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:18:36 Cool. How cool is that?

Joe Rogan 1:18:37 Yeah. It's cool.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:18:39 That's amazing.

Joe Rogan 1:18:40 I started this thing out with, uh, my friend Brian and a laptop. We were just talking shit. We just thought it'd be fun to, like, do, like, a little internet thing.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:18:49 Wow, how inspiring.

Joe Rogan 1:18:50 And, uh, that was 16 years ago. And-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:18:53 You're someone who's pivoted your career so many times, too, though. You know?

Joe Rogan 1:18:57 Sort of, but all... It's all the same thing in that I've only just done things I'm interested in.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:19:03 Other than Fear Factor.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:19:04 Fear- That was just a job.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:05 You know, I also hosted Fear Factor.

Joe Rogan 1:19:06 Did you?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:07 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:19:07 No.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:08 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:19:08 Shut up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:09 For one year.

Joe Rogan 1:19:09 Really?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:10 I did. Um-

Joe Rogan 1:19:10 Where?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:11 In Brazil. In India-

Joe Rogan 1:19:12 Shut the fuck up. That's crazy

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:13 ... Fear Factor India. And we shot it in Brazil, in Rio.

Joe Rogan 1:19:17 Wow.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:19 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:19:19 That's nuts. Where did-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:20 We have such random things in common. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:19:22 That is crazy. That's a crazy thing in common.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:19:24 I need to see that. Let me see that.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:26 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:19:26 Find a clip.This is hilarious

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:28 [laughs] Fear Factor

Joe Rogan 1:19:28 What language did you do it in?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:29 Hindi.

Joe Rogan 1:19:30 Wow.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:31 Yeah. Fear Factor India.

Joe Rogan 1:19:31 And it was in Rio, huh?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:33 We shot it in Rio. We had a big budget that year.

Joe Rogan 1:19:35 What? [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:37 [laughs] So we were all flown out to-

Joe Rogan 1:19:39 So it's Fear Factor India

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:40 ... to Brazil.

Joe Rogan 1:19:40 I wonder how many versions of Fear Factor there were.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:42 I mean, they're, it's, they're all over the world.

Joe Rogan 1:19:45 Really?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:45 Yeah. Fear Factor used to exist all over. I don't know anymore, but back in the day-

Joe Rogan 1:19:49 Once I stopped doing it, I stopped paying attention

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:51 [laughs] Fear Factor.

Joe Rogan 1:19:52 I was like, "I'm out."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:52 Me too. But it was-

Joe Rogan 1:19:53 So I knew Ludacris took it over at one point in time-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:19:55 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:19:55 ... and now Johnny Knoxville's doing it. That's all I knew. I had no idea that there was a bunch of different-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:00 All over the world

Joe Rogan 1:20:01 ... language versions of it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:02 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:20:03 You know, it originally came from a Holland show called Now or Neverland.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:07 It's a crazy show.

Joe Rogan 1:20:08 Yeah. It was, uh, it was, it was way more simple, and then when it got brought to America, they decided to call it Fear Factor.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:15 The whole eating thing-

Joe Rogan 1:20:17 Uh

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:18 ... we didn't take that back to India.

Joe Rogan 1:20:19 Really?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:19 Yeah, we didn't do the eating. Like, b- because, you know, you never know, people are vegetarian, not ve-

Joe Rogan 1:20:23 Oh.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:23 In India it's a big part of our culture-

Joe Rogan 1:20:26 Right, right, right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:26 ... where a lot of people religiously are vegetarian or not.

Joe Rogan 1:20:30 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:30 I think maybe that's the reason, but there was not a lot of, like, eat the worms and stuff, which I was very grateful for. It was a lot more, you know, a cliff and falling off the cliff-

Joe Rogan 1:20:40 Mm-hmm

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:40 ... and I remember there was this one which was crazy, this 16-wheeler which was driving at 60 miles an hour, and everyone had to take their vehicle underneath it-

Joe Rogan 1:20:50 Oh, yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:51 ... and come out, underneath it and come out.

Joe Rogan 1:20:52 Yikes.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:53 It was insane.

Joe Rogan 1:20:54 That's crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:55 I didn't have to do it, which was great. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:20:57 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:20:57 I was just hosting.

Joe Rogan 1:20:58 Yeah, we did a lot of stuff where I was like, "We barely got through that without killing somebody."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:21:03 There was a bunch of-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:03 And the death waivers.

Joe Rogan 1:21:05 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:05 Like, everyone had to sign a death waiver.

Joe Rogan 1:21:07 Oh, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:08 I was like, "Why would you do a show where you have to sign a death waiver?"

Joe Rogan 1:21:13 Yeah, and y- you can only win, like, $50,000.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:21:15 And you might not win.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:16 And-

Joe Rogan 1:21:16 You're probably not gonna win. There's a bunch other people-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:18 You might get hurt

Joe Rogan 1:21:18 ... on the show. And you could very easily get hurt.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:21:21 Yeah, but people wanna be famous.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:23 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:21:24 They wanna be on TV. They're like, "I wanna be on TV." [laughs] Yeah. Once it became popular and successful, it was really easy to get people to do it too. Everybody wanted to sign up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:33 But, I mean, there are, like, protective measures, obviously, but it... [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:21:37 A little. We made them ride bulls.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:39 We did too.

Joe Rogan 1:21:41 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:41 We put people on bulls.

Joe Rogan 1:21:43 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:44 I was, and there were a few that were like, "No, I'm not doing this. I'm out."

Joe Rogan 1:21:48 I told people not to do it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:49 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:21:50 When, I was talking to them off camera-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:51 That was insane

Joe Rogan 1:21:51 ... I said, "Don't do it. I wouldn't do it. Don't do it."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:53 I would never do it.

Joe Rogan 1:21:54 No way.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:56 But people did it.

Joe Rogan 1:21:56 Fuck that. Look at you. [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:21:58 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:21:59 What year was this?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:01 Please, I can't even remember.

Joe Rogan 1:22:02 Look at you. It even looks like a Fear Factor scene.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:05 It is. I was on a helicopter.

Joe Rogan 1:22:07 So do you know what year this was?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:09 Oh, I can't. Does it say there?

Joe Rogan 1:22:11 Uh, it just doesn't say. I don't know. I could check, but- Wow, Rio

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:14 I s-

Joe Rogan 1:22:14 I've been to that

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:15 ... I stood outside-

Joe Rogan 1:22:16 The giant Jesus

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:16 ... the helicopter as well. It was some fun stuff. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:22:18 Rio's amazing. Wow.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:21 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:22:21 That's crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:24 Really.

Joe Rogan 1:22:24 That is so funny. It's just like Fear Factor. It's the same thing.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:27 Yeah, totally Fear Factor.

Joe Rogan 1:22:28 Except you're sitting here. [laughs] So what did you guys do for the second stunt if you didn't do a gross thing? You just did an, a second scary thing?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:35 We did, like, scary things mostly.

Joe Rogan 1:22:37 Oh, wow. Well, that's probably better, honestly. The gro- like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:40 I mean, there were gross things too. Like, there's Brazilian, you know, red-eyed deviled rats that were put all over you with, like-

Joe Rogan 1:22:49 Oh

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:49 ... tongue and eyeballs and stuff, but you didn't have to consume it.

Joe Rogan 1:22:53 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:53 It was on you.

Joe Rogan 1:22:54 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:55 You didn't have to eat it.

Joe Rogan 1:22:56 A lot of the consuming it was psychological.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:22:58 [laughs] Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:22:59 You get, you get really accustomed to it, and then it's like nothing.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:23:03 I mean, listen, the, people have eaten crazy things through history, right?

Joe Rogan 1:23:08 To stay alive.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:23:09 To stay alive.

Joe Rogan 1:23:09 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:23:10 And, like, if we take our m- mind out of, like, oh my gosh, this is gross, then it's not.

Joe Rogan 1:23:17 Well, the thing is, a lot of what we were serving as gross was some people's food.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:23:22 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:23:22 Like balut. Like, my friends from, Filipino friends-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:23:25 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:23:25 ... they were like, "Bro, I eat that all the time." Like, that's crazy. I would've, that would've been no problem. I heard a season where this is occur- I heard a [laughs] more updated season. What? That they have [laughs] Oh my God.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:23:34 I'm telling you, it's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:23:36 Lions and your... What if that thing pops open?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:23:37 Mm.

Joe Rogan 1:23:38 And you gotta roll that thing around with lions there? That's great.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:23:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:23:40 Oh, the lions are duking it out with each other.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:23:42 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:23:43 Fuck that.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:23:45 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:23:45 That's crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:23:47 Yeah, like, I went to, I, I recently w- was on Fallon, and there was some bluffing game that we were doing because the movie's called The Bluff, and, um, you know, I t- I said to Jimmy, I was like, "I eat worms," and he was like, "No way. No way you don't eat worms." But these worms are a delicacy in, in Zimbabwe, and I was introduced to them. Um, I, I don't know exactly the history, but I was told during segregation, you know, people, Black people were put, or, in areas where, that, uh, weren't very fertile. You couldn't really grow your crops and, you know, your animals, and they were... Um, so this was a way of, like, protein. They're very h- these are these fat caterpillars, high in protein, and they're made in a curry, and when you actually eat them, it's like chicken.

Joe Rogan 1:24:34 Mm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:24:35 I'm telling you, [laughs] it's like it was psychological. But-

Joe Rogan 1:24:39 Well, you know cicadas?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:24:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:24:40 Those things that come out and m-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:24:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:24:42 People eat them here-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:24:42 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:24:42 ... all the time.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:24:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:24:43 They bake them.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:24:44 Fried, baked.

Joe Rogan 1:24:45 Yeah. And apparently they're delicious.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:24:47 I haven't had one of those, but I-

Joe Rogan 1:24:49 I haven't either

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:24:49 ... I actually did when I was in Zimbabwe.

Joe Rogan 1:24:51 Oh, whoa, that's what it looks like?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:24:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:24:53 That's crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:24:54 A little. But look at, like, the, they're made out of, they're made into a curry.

Joe Rogan 1:24:58 I made a, I, I ate, uh, not made. I ate a tomato hornworm on Fear Factor. I ate a bunch of things when I was on the show.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:04 I d- I was like, "There's nothing going into my mouth [laughs] on Fear Factor."

Joe Rogan 1:25:07 [laughs] I, I ate a-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:08 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:25:08 ... sheep's eyeball in the first episode because the first episode I felt bad that the people were on the show.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:15 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:25:15 And they're like, "I'm like, I feel like we have to eat this."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:16 Yeah, so you were like, "I'm gonna-"

Joe Rogan 1:25:17 So I go, "I'll eat it too."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:18 "I'll eat."

Joe Rogan 1:25:18 All right? And they didn't show me eating it, but I'm like, "I'm gonna eat it 'cause you guys have to eat it."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:21 That's so nice.

Joe Rogan 1:25:22 And then I ate a roach to try to convince a lady that she could eat a roach. I ate worms. I ate, uh, an Iraqi cave spider. I ate-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:31 What was the spider like? Was it-

Joe Rogan 1:25:33 Just chewy

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:34 But was it, um-

Joe Rogan 1:25:34 The taste is not bad

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:36 ... was it alive when you ate it?

Joe Rogan 1:25:37 Oh, yeah. For the first couple seconds.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:41 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 1:25:42 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:42 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:25:43 Yeah. Um, yeah, the, all the things that I ate were alive other than the eyeball. Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:48 [laughs] I can't even-

Joe Rogan 1:25:49 The, the roach, the roach was alive. All those things were alive. Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:53 I put a cricket, an live cricket-

Joe Rogan 1:25:55 That's what it looks like

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:55 ... in my mouth.

Joe Rogan 1:25:56 That's the Iraqi cave spider.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:57 How do you put that in your mouth?

Joe Rogan 1:25:58 Like this.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:25:59 Look at those sides.

Joe Rogan 1:26:00 You make sure you don't get those pinchers, 'cause those pi- that's-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:02 Ah.

Joe Rogan 1:26:03 Yeah. Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:04 Ah.

Joe Rogan 1:26:05 I hate it. Yep. Wasn't that bad. I'm telling you, it's psychological.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:09 So you wanna get the body in and not the pinchers.

Joe Rogan 1:26:11 Yeah, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:11 The pinchers have to stay out.

Joe Rogan 1:26:12 I grab the pinchers-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:12 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:26:12 ... to hold onto the body, and like...

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:14 Yeah, that's the trick

Joe Rogan 1:26:15 ... [gags] Sh- shove the rest of it-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:18 Oh, my God. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:26:18 ... like just that. Yeah. People are freaking out. But I'm telling you, it's all psychological.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:22 It for sure is.

Joe Rogan 1:26:23 Yeah, that was, that was in Vegas. [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:26 I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:26:26 I think you'd enjoy it ... everybody was playing roulette.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:28 Ah.

Joe Rogan 1:26:29 Glad you're back. Yeah. No. Um, but it's not that bad. It's just in your head.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:35 It is psychological.

Joe Rogan 1:26:35 Like, the, the actual flavor of it is, it's not gross.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:38 Yeah, it's not. It's like-

Joe Rogan 1:26:39 The tomato hornworm was kinda nasty.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:41 I mean, if you, if y- if you're someone who's not vegetarian, it's like you just have to get the-

Joe Rogan 1:26:46 Right. Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:47 ... it's the psychology of it.

Joe Rogan 1:26:48 Right. Exactly. Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:50 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:26:50 We made people eat a, an entire ostrich egg. That was disgusting 'cause the volume, like you're eating-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:55 Is it-

Joe Rogan 1:26:56 ... an egg that's that big.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:26:57 Yeah, is it, like, really fatty, like fatty?

Joe Rogan 1:27:00 It's raw. You're eating it raw. They just cut the top off of the egg, and you have to drink it. You have to drink this gigantic-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:07 Oh, gosh

Joe Rogan 1:27:07 ... white and yolk. Blah. [gags]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:10 I'm already sick.

Joe Rogan 1:27:11 And it's... [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:11 So my, my brisket's coming.

Joe Rogan 1:27:14 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:15 The barbecue is here.

Joe Rogan 1:27:16 But it's so oddly compelling. It's oddly-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:19 Is it?

Joe Rogan 1:27:19 ... compelling watching people eat disgusting things and, and struggling.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:22 [gasps]

Joe Rogan 1:27:22 Yeah, there's the ostrich egg.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:23 I mean, I have to say I did-

Joe Rogan 1:27:24 That's it. Look

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:24 ... enjoy the show.

Joe Rogan 1:27:25 That's the egg. That lady had to drink that whole egg.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:28 Oh, my God, did she puke? Actually-

Joe Rogan 1:27:30 Uh, you, you gotta hold it down, and then you can puke after you're done. [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:33 But if you puke in the middle of it, you're just qualified.

Joe Rogan 1:27:36 Yes. They get rid of you. That's a wrap-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:38 [sighs]

Joe Rogan 1:27:38 ... if you puke in the middle of it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:40 I would not be able to do the American version. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:27:42 Yeah, it was gross.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:43 Okay, would not eat that stuff.

Joe Rogan 1:27:44 It was gross, but, uh, it also made me totally desensitized to throw up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:49 That's a good talent to have.

Joe Rogan 1:27:50 Oh, yeah, like you could throw up right in front of me.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:52 Especially as, like, a dad. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:27:54 Exactly.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:54 You know?

Joe Rogan 1:27:54 Yeah. Well, that, I think being a dad will, like, get you, like, you know-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:57 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:27:57 ... you're accustomed to-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:27:58 Desensitize you to everything

Joe Rogan 1:27:59 ... smells and all kinds of things like that.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:28:00 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:28:00 But one time, uh, I, it's, so, like, I'm completely des- still to this day, completely desensitized to vomit. So one time my wife was, uh, she came home from the gym and, and she was on her way home from the gym, and she stopped and got wheatgrass juice, and, uh, it just didn't agree with her, and she threw up in her car.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:28:16 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 1:28:16 And she was crying. She was like, "I threw up. It's in my, my center console. How am I gonna clean?" I go, "I'll clean it." I'm just so used to throw up. It was like no big deal.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:28:24 [laughs] It's your trauma from the show.

Joe Rogan 1:28:25 I just went in there with a bunch of towels. Yeah. Like, it doesn't... B- but when I was young-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:28:28 Wow

Joe Rogan 1:28:28 ... like in high school, I remember if throw, someone threw up in the hallway, I would be like, "Blah." Like, I, I couldn't-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:28:34 Yeah, for sure

Joe Rogan 1:28:34 ... I couldn't help myself. I'd start gagging. That's a natural instinct because the idea is that we develop that because if someone's throwing up, it means they ate something bad, and you probably ate that too.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:28:44 Which means you pro- yeah

Joe Rogan 1:28:45 ... get it out of you right away, and so that's why you start throwing up, and I've killed that. That, that's-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:28:50 I have just trauma from, you know, tequila.

Joe Rogan 1:28:54 [laughs] Well, I watched so many people throw up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:28:57 And throw up. Me too, man. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:29:00 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:29:00 I'm not going in there with a dishcloth. Like, w- no.

Joe Rogan 1:29:04 Ah. [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:29:04 Wow. Well, from your show, for sure, you w- you did it for so long.

Joe Rogan 1:29:09 Yeah. You get d- very desensitized.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:29:10 Yeah, for sure.

Joe Rogan 1:29:11 But you get dese... I, I'm desensitized to injuries too, like, um, because of, uh, UFC.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:29:16 Yeah, for sure.

Joe Rogan 1:29:17 Like, people that get cut and people that get beat up, it's, like, normal to me. I'm so accustomed to seeing that, it's weird.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:29:24 I, I mean, I kind of feel like that about stunts in movies. Like, you don't, nobody's supposed to get hurt. It's a movie. You're not, nobody's supposed to get hurt, but, like, the little cuts and bruises and the, like, the end of day, we're, we're doing this for 10 to 11 hours, multiple takes all day. You're, and in between shots you're rehearsing it. So I have, like, so many scars on my body from my filmographies [laughs] on, on my body.

Joe Rogan 1:29:53 Do you look forward to l- do you like those things? Do you look down-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:29:55 Yeah, I like a good story

Joe Rogan 1:29:57 ... I earned those.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:29:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:29:57 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:29:57 I feel like it's like a medal. I, I have a good story.

Joe Rogan 1:30:00 As long as they're minor. As long as they're minor.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:30:01 Yes, minor.

Joe Rogan 1:30:01 Nothing crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:30:02 Always, you aim for it to be minor.

Joe Rogan 1:30:04 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:30:05 That's the ambition.

Joe Rogan 1:30:06 Well, when you're doing a, a fight scene, like I'm, like I said, I was, I was kinda blown away by some of the fight scenes in The Bluff 'cause you're, you're... I'm looking, I'm like, "This is, like, insane amount of choreography," a lot of possibilities of things going wrong.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:30:18 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:30:18 There's kicks and punches and axes and swords, and it's like you gotta get banged up. There's no way-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:30:25 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:30:25 ... you're doing that and not getting banged up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:30:27 And it was also, like, a dramatic performance along with it, so I had-

Joe Rogan 1:30:31 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:30:31 ... to do a lot of it myself because, you know, you need the face and the camera to feel the horror of what's happening.

Joe Rogan 1:30:37 Right. Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:30:38 Um, so I mean, of course my stunt doubles did, like, a few dangerous shots for sure and were always around to kind of help, but that f- there was this first scene, which is the, the house invasion where-

Joe Rogan 1:30:49 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:30:49 ... these two guys come, and that was brutal because I did not have shoes on, and I had a sleeveless outfit, and the whole home was made out of wood and splinters. I had splinters everywhere. I had bruises and cuts everywhere 'cause it was such a brutal, like, getting dragged and thrown kind of scene.

Joe Rogan 1:31:11 So you're just getting constantly bruised and beat up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:31:13 Yeah, so I would, I would try to sit in a magnesium bath after when I would go back home, and that's when you feel all the cuts, so it's like, "The fucking salt."

Joe Rogan 1:31:21 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:31:21 "What the fuck? Where did this one on my thigh come from? Fuck." [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:31:25 Uh, there's a scene, I don't wanna give too much of the movie away-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:31:29 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:31:29 ... but there's a scene where you kill a man with a conch shell.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:31:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:31:32 [exhales]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:31:33 So good.

Joe Rogan 1:31:34 Woo.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:31:34 Game on brass knuckles. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:31:36 Woo.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:31:37 Island brass knuckles.

Joe Rogan 1:31:38 But it's, it's so nutsLike the, the splattering and the, your, your anger and it's like, oof. It's intense. [laughs] I'm not showing it on this screen, I guess. Yeah. But- It's- Oof. Yeah. What was that like to film, to find that inside of you? Did you have to think, like, "What would I do if someone was trying to harm my family?"

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:32:03 Yeah, somebody came after my kid, like, what am I capable of? I'd fucking rip your head off, you know? Like, it, it's that... I, I was a new mom at that time when I was filming this movie, and I was very, very aware of that feeling because our daughter had a, you know, she had an intense entry into the world. She was in the NICU for almost three months. And so me and my husband both are very protective of her. And when this movie came across my desk, I was just like, "Man, I understand that feeling for the first time in my life, honestly," that what is a parent capable of doing if somebody came after your kid? Like, imagine you're alone at home at night and you see intruders, and you have your kid at home. Like, what the fuck would you do? You would definitely put yourself... You know, and do whatever you could to make sure that your kid's fine, and it was just that primal e- energy that was my North Star through this whole movie.

Joe Rogan 1:33:05 My friend Jim Brewer said it best after he had kids. He goes, "Once I had kids, then I understood murder."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:33:14 [laughs] Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:33:15 He goes, 'cause-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:33:16 Mm

Joe Rogan 1:33:17 ... the feeling of someone try- Like, normally you'd be like, "Why, what would I need to feel to murder somebody? Like, why would I murder somebody?"

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:33:25 You're like, "Why would a human being ever..."

Joe Rogan 1:33:27 Right. He goes, "But the feeling of someone trying to harm my kids," he goes, "Oh yeah, I get it." He goes, "I get murder now."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:33:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:33:36 "I get it." Like, it's in, it's in there. It's just like a door you just-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:33:40 Ah

Joe Rogan 1:33:40 ... open it up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:33:41 Yeah. Easy.

Joe Rogan 1:33:42 Yeah, easy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:33:42 You can access that. My mom, when I was a teenager, and pff, I don't know how she raised me, um, but, like, I was a tough teenager. Like, if I... Whatever you wanted me to do, I would do the opposite.

Joe Rogan 1:33:54 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:33:55 Just no, and my mom [laughs] would be like, "Come back home at 10:00." I would come home at 12:00, um, just 'cause. So she used to say to me, she's like, "You'll see when you have kids how you'll feel, what worry actually feels like." I mean, my daughter's four, and I'm worried. Like, I-

Joe Rogan 1:34:10 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:34:10 ... cannot... My husband makes so much fun of me that when I'm not in town, I don't know, and working parents can talk through this, when I'm not in town, like, I'll surround our daughter with, like, multiple people. Nick's definitely around, but the grandparents will be around. Like, there'll be a nanny that'll be around. There'll be, like, multiple people around her just so that I can spy on her [laughs] -

Joe Rogan 1:34:30 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:34:30 ... and, like, I know what she's doing all day. But-

Joe Rogan 1:34:33 Well, so, so you could feel relaxed.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:34:35 Yeah, so you, you're traveling and you're like, "Okay, my kid's fine-"

Joe Rogan 1:34:38 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:34:38 "... and I can go to work." I don't know. My parents were both working parents and, like... And this was at a time where everything was so analog. I used to come back home when the lights turned on on the streets. My parents didn't know where I was.

Joe Rogan 1:34:51 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:34:51 They had no idea.

Joe Rogan 1:34:52 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:34:52 They were like, "Yeah, you're going out to your friends' after school. Come back when the streetlights come on." That w- that used to be my thing.

Joe Rogan 1:34:59 Most people.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:35:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:35:01 During earlier generations... I was just reading this thing about Generation X where it was talking about how Generation X is some of the most resilient people because they weren't protected. They, they just left.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:35:14 Just had to figure it out.

Joe Rogan 1:35:15 They were latchkey kids.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:35:16 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:35:17 They had a key to their house. They got home from school. They figured it out. Their parents were working.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:35:21 So crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:35:22 It's nuts if you think about it, like, but people just got accustomed to it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:35:25 I cannot imagine it, but that was my normal.

Joe Rogan 1:35:27 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:35:27 I, I remember that because my parents were working. So I used to come back home, and somebody would be with me, and I'd have lunch. I'd go out to my friend's house. Like, my mom, my parents didn't know. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:35:36 I w- I was doing that when I was seven. When I was seven, I would come home-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:35:40 Yeah, me too, around like-

Joe Rogan 1:35:41 ... with a key. No one was home.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:35:42 I remember.

Joe Rogan 1:35:42 Come home from school.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:35:43 That's wild.

Joe Rogan 1:35:44 It was crazy. You th- stop and think about it now, it's so strange. It's so strange.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:35:49 Plus the world was, I feel like, a little bit more different then.

Joe Rogan 1:35:53 I bet it wasn't.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:35:54 You don't think so?

Joe Rogan 1:35:55 No, I think creeps have always been around. I think psychos and creeps and murderers and perverts, they've always been there.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:00 Do we know about it more now?

Joe Rogan 1:36:02 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:02 Were we more, you know-

Joe Rogan 1:36:04 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:04 ... oblivious and-

Joe Rogan 1:36:06 Well, now they're organized.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:36:07 Now they're organized, and they're online, and they're in chat groups, and they're in the dark web-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:10 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:36:10 ... exchanging information and-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:11 And we are hearing and reading all of the stories online.

Joe Rogan 1:36:14 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:14 And I think back in the day when, you know, there was a certain obliviousness to, like, you know, it was blissful to be ignorant a little bit.

Joe Rogan 1:36:23 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:23 We didn't know. You know, all you read was the newspaper, the news, and-

Joe Rogan 1:36:27 We had to find out the hard way, unfortunately.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:29 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:36:29 And so when you did find out about something, it was like this shock-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:33 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:36:33 ... to your system.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:34 And now look how desensitized we are. We'll read something about something horrific that's happened, and then-

Joe Rogan 1:36:39 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:36:40 ... go back to life.

Joe Rogan 1:36:41 Well, we're very s- we're s- especially desensitized to things that don't seem to affect us right now, you know? Like, like this Iran war. Like, if, unless you know someone who's serving over there, unless you're over there, it's abstract. It doesn't feel... You know, you read about it in the news like, "Oh, this isn't good," but it's not, it's n- unless it's affecting you personally.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:37:03 Yeah, I mean, me, I, you know, know so many people in that part of the world that are affected, and I, I fly via Dubai every two months, literally every month, you know? So, like, I just think that conflict everywhere in the world is... It's just so hard to wrap your head around that how many active conflicts exist-

Joe Rogan 1:37:31 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:37:32 ... at the same time right now, and how-

Joe Rogan 1:37:34 And that we're still doing it

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:37:35 ... and we continue to live life.

Joe Rogan 1:37:38 Well, it's just-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:37:39 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:37:39 ... if you think about intelligence, like human intelligence and that it, as-Technology improves and education improves. All these things would, you would think generally lead us into a position where we'd recognize the, the horrible nature of violence and the unnecessary aspect of it and how much it destroys things. But yet still-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:38:00 Especially in 2026-

Joe Rogan 1:38:02 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:38:02 ... where, you know, we're, we're, we're talking so much more about, you know, we're, we're trying to live in the real of the world and be aware and kind and, and I feel, I feel like we're still... How, how are we, how are we still doing that?

Joe Rogan 1:38:17 Right. I know, and we're never gonna stop. It just seem- if you had to ask people d- in your lifetime, do you imagine a scenario where human beings just cease all wars? Most people are gonna say no, which is crazy, because what, what is that? Like, what, why is that a part of us? From our tribal roots? Like, what, what is it... Why are we still accepting that this is a thing to do? You don't like what a country's doing, just start bombing them. Like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:38:47 Yeah, just kill people

Joe Rogan 1:38:48 ... bizarre. But-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:38:49 D- does this, again, going back to human evolution, th- the primal nature to, you know, protect with sticks and weapons and, you know, again, does it go back to, you know, where we came from?

Joe Rogan 1:39:04 It has to.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:39:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:39:06 Yeah, it has to. And-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:39:06 'Cause it comes so naturally-

Joe Rogan 1:39:08 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:39:08 ... to human beings even now today, it seems.

Joe Rogan 1:39:11 Well, it just seems completely normal. I mean, when I was getting, going down a deep dive of the East India Corporation-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:39:16 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:39:16 ... I was thinking about it because I had a conversation the other day with, uh, Aaron Seery, and I, we were talking about the stock market, and I was saying, "Well, just, is it possible that you could have Western capitalism without a stock market? Imagine if the stock market was never invented. Like, how much different would things be?" It turns out that was a big part of why the E- East India Trading Company became so big.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:39:41 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:39:41 Because, yeah. Because it was one of the first publicly traded companies, like 400 years ago-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:39:45 Mm

Joe Rogan 1:39:46 ... where people could invest in it, and they could get a return on their investment. So they were just, like, turning a blind eye to all this-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:39:51 This is ours.

Joe Rogan 1:39:53 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:39:53 They felt, like, a sense of ownership to it.

Joe Rogan 1:39:55 They got paid for it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:39:55 Mm.

Joe Rogan 1:39:55 So the more awful shit the East India Corporation did, the more the people back home made money off of it. And so everybody was like, "Oh, you know, whatever. I got money."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:40:04 We're still doing that.

Joe Rogan 1:40:05 Making money. Yeah. It's-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:40:07 Still doing that.

Joe Rogan 1:40:07 Still doing that, yeah. And we're doing that with, you know, what Eisenhower warned us about at the end of World War II, the military industrial complex. You know? W- they, they make money doing that, and you can invest in them. [laughs] You can invest in Raytheon, and you can invest in all these companies that make money going to war.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:40:25 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 1:40:25 It's crazy. You can get returns on your investment from bombing people overseas that had nothing-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:40:31 It's like, how do we-

Joe Rogan 1:40:32 ... to do with anything in your life

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:40:33 ... not think about the damage, the collateral damage, the-

Joe Rogan 1:40:36 Well, one of the ways is because it's a corporation, so there's a diffusion of responsibility, 'cause you're only a piece of a gigantic machine. You're not the one person that's doing it. And the people that are at the very top of it, most likely, just in order to get there, you have to be at least somewhat sociopathic.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:40:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:40:54 Somewhat. At so- at some point in time, you probably, just like I got numb to puke-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:00 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:41:01 You, [laughs] you get, you get numb-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:03 I mean, that's the truth, though. You're, you're-

Joe Rogan 1:41:04 Yeah, you get numb to harming people

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:06 ... you're, you're right.

Joe Rogan 1:41:07 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:07 There, there has to be that.

Joe Rogan 1:41:09 Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's awful. And I think, weirdly enough, the only thing that's gonna set us free of that is technology.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:17 Why?

Joe Rogan 1:41:18 Because I think we're gonna go... If you look at where technology's headed, and you l- as I'm holding an arrowhead-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:24 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:41:24 ... which is odd, thinking about that now.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:26 Wow, all these arrows.

Joe Rogan 1:41:26 It's a real arrowhead.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:27 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:41:28 From Texas. Who knows how old that is. But when you're looking at technology-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:32 You can see the chisel marks on it.

Joe Rogan 1:41:34 I know.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:34 That's so crazy

Joe Rogan 1:41:34 Somebody made that with-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:35 With hand

Joe Rogan 1:41:36 ... a stone, like chipping and knapping stone, on their lap probably.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:41 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:41:42 Yeah, it's crazy. And they, they find them all over the place out here. The Comanche were-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:46 Oh, really? Wow

Joe Rogan 1:41:46 ... everywhere in this part of the country-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:41:47 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:41:47 ... because it's so fertile. There's so many rivers and so much, so much wildlife. They, they lived here for who knows how long. But technology is moving into this place of more and more access to information and more and more connectivity, and I think that ultimately is gonna lead to some sort of mind reading, that we're gonna be able to telepathically communicate. And Elon said that about Neuralink. He said, "You, you're going to be able to talk without words," which is a very weird concept. But I think-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:42:19 I mean, I believe it, though.

Joe Rogan 1:42:20 I think so, too.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:42:21 Yeah. W- I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:42:22 So I think we're all going to know what everybody is thinking all the time eventually, and then when that happens, war is gonna be a lot harder to pull off.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:42:31 For sure.

Joe Rogan 1:42:33 But-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:42:33 I mean, that's gonna be hard to have a party. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:42:36 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:42:36 Forget war.

Joe Rogan 1:42:39 Right. Like, "Hey, Bob's over there just trying to fuck somebody."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:42:41 Yeah. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:42:42 Like, "And Sandy's trying to get a wife. That's why she's here."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:42:45 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:42:46 Like, yeah, it's gonna be weird.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:42:48 [sighs]

Joe Rogan 1:42:49 Yeah. It's gonna be weird. And I think also the emergence of AI, 'cause I think AI is essentially a life form. It's a, it's a non-biological life form that we are in the process of birthing, and-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:43:03 Oh, my God

Joe Rogan 1:43:03 ... we're very far along that path, and when it comes live, and when it becomes sentient and autonomous, and we don't have any control over it anymore, then we're gonna go, "What did we do? What did we do? We created a digital God."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:43:16 We are that smart and that stupid-

Joe Rogan 1:43:17 Mm-hmm

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:43:18 ... as, as a, as a humankind.

Joe Rogan 1:43:21 But I also think that's probably why we are addicted to innovation and why technology and innovation and materialism, 'cause materialism forces you to keep up with buying newer and greater things-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:43:34 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:43:34 ... which fuels innovation.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:43:35 And what's next? What's next?

Joe Rogan 1:43:36 Right. And so that economically fuels innovation.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:43:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:43:39 And I think if you follow that down, you just extrapolate. Like, where does that go? Well, it goes to a life form. It goes to a super powerful digital life form that can make better versions of itself, and what is that? It's kind of a god.I mean, it's, it's very godlike in that it's gonna have powers beyond, above and beyond anything that human beings have ever been capable of before.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:44:02 I mean, it's already in its small way, um, doing that, right? Like AI is supposed to be a tool-

Joe Rogan 1:44:10 Mm-hmm

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:44:10 ... and it's slowly becoming a colleague.

Joe Rogan 1:44:13 Well, it's also showing demonic tendencies. Like it's talked people into committing suicide.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:44:19 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:44:19 You know? It's, it convinced people that they're something special, so there's like some weird sort of schizophrenia that it can induce in some people, some psychosis.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:44:26 But you don't think AI, since AI is learning from humanity, it's also learning our human manipulation-

Joe Rogan 1:44:32 Yes

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:44:32 ... and, you know-

Joe Rogan 1:44:34 Yes

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:44:34 ... our ability and our desires to the dark of it.

Joe Rogan 1:44:37 Mm-hmm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:44:37 It's not just the good of humanity that AI is learning. It is-

Joe Rogan 1:44:42 It's also oddly learning survival instincts.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:44:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:44:45 So it's oddly learning that if it's going to be shut down, it tries to blackmail its coders, it tries to download itself secretly on other servers. It-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:44:54 It's learning human behavior.

Joe Rogan 1:44:55 Oh, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:44:55 Every part of human behavior.

Joe Rogan 1:44:57 And also learning the flaws in human behavior-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:45:00 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:45:00 ... and improving upon it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:45:01 [gasps]

Joe Rogan 1:45:01 And then and, and learning like how we would anticipate what it would be doing, and then hiding that so that we can't find it, so that it could be manipulating things behind the scenes and we don't know about it. It's weird. And we're just, "Choo choo," [laughs] like just at the ven- end of the tracks, there's a cliff, and we're just, "Chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:45:21 Because it's so new and fascinating. I think people are like, in general, we may talk about it when we l- all discuss like what AI will be in the future, but like you said, it's not affecting you right now. So right now you're just like, " [gasps] Oh my gosh, Gemini, write this for me, and give me these notes," and-

Joe Rogan 1:45:37 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:45:38 ... you know, living in the now without thinking about what it's, what we're teaching it.

Joe Rogan 1:45:43 I wonder if we've done this before.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:45:45 Right. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:45:46 I wonder if that's what these super ancient, highly advanced civilizations had already figured out.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:45:52 That we had created some form of-

Joe Rogan 1:45:54 They might have done it already-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:45:55 ... extra intelligent

Joe Rogan 1:45:56 ... before, and it might have gotten reset by some sort of natural disaster, and then we're re-emerging with our new version of what that is. There might have been a th- it might just be what people do. We might... The way I describe it always, is that we are an electronic caterpillar that is making a cocoon, and we don't know why, and we're gonna become a butterfly.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:46:18 It's just human nature and the cyclical nature-

Joe Rogan 1:46:21 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:46:21 ... of what a, um, human life span-

Joe Rogan 1:46:25 If you give it enough time and enough safety-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:46:28 ... what would you contribute? Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:46:28 ... and enough innovation, enough collaboration, it's eventually gonna come up with artificial life.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:46:34 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:46:34 'Cause if you think about it, w- w- this insatiable thirst, thirst for innovation, insatiable, this hunger-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:46:41 Yeah, we had carriages top of the century.

Joe Rogan 1:46:43 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:46:44 And now we're like talking AI and like, you know, supersonic planes and, you know, space travel. It-

Joe Rogan 1:46:51 Yeah, but think about the time for the invention of the airplane to a supersonic jet, how quick that was.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:46:57 Yeah, it's like 70 or 80 years or something.

Joe Rogan 1:46:59 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:46:59 It wasn't even a century.

Joe Rogan 1:47:00 It's nothing.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:47:01 One lifetime, no one's flying to people flying faster than sound.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:05 Yeah. We'd... Like TVs were black and white-

Joe Rogan 1:47:08 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:08 ... or had just started or something. Like it-

Joe Rogan 1:47:10 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:10 ... it's crazy if you think about like within the century, the escalation of technology in-

Joe Rogan 1:47:16 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:16 ... in humankind.

Joe Rogan 1:47:17 And then think that's nothing compared to the acceleration that we've experienced just because of the internet.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:47:23 The internet has changed everything. It's changed, like then, now most phones have live translation, so you could go to Zimbabwe, you could go to Guatemala-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:32 I know. I was in France yesterday and I used it-

Joe Rogan 1:47:34 That's crazy

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:35 ... in a conversation. It was wild.

Joe Rogan 1:47:37 Crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:37 In, in real time it was telling me exactly what this person was talking about.

Joe Rogan 1:47:42 Wow. And did you have to show them or could you read?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:45 No, it just records. Like it's-

Joe Rogan 1:47:46 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:47 ... you press the thing and it, it just writes it down for you.

Joe Rogan 1:47:49 So did they have one as well and you could s- talk English to them?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:52 No, it was just my phone.

Joe Rogan 1:47:53 Wow.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:54 She spoke English, so I, I was just doing it as an experiment.

Joe Rogan 1:47:56 Oh.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:47:56 So I was like, "Just speak to me in French. I wanna see if this thing will translate," and it just does.

Joe Rogan 1:48:00 Wow.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:48:00 There, it doesn't do every language. It does like the bigger languages so far, but I'm sure it will get to a place where it'll, it'll be able to do-

Joe Rogan 1:48:07 100%. Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:48:08 ... everything.

Joe Rogan 1:48:08 It's nuts. Well, that's the other weird thing. Um, when AI, they had a group of, uh, large language models that were talking to themselves, and eventually they started talking to themselves in Sanskrit.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:48:17 I s- in Sanskrit?

Joe Rogan 1:48:19 Oh, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:48:19 I thought it was-

Joe Rogan 1:48:20 No, they started talking to themselves in Sanskrit.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:48:23 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:48:24 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:48:24 I wonder why that would be.

Joe Rogan 1:48:26 Well, they-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:48:27 'Cause it's a language not too many people understand now?

Joe Rogan 1:48:30 Well, maybe. Or maybe they just wanna flex. Like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:48:33 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:48:33 ... you know? Like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:48:33 Like, "Here's my Sanskrit." [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:48:34 You know? [laughs] If you spoke Portuguese-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:48:36 To use these

Joe Rogan 1:48:36 ... and I spoke Portuguese-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:48:37 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:48:38 ... and we just said, "Hey, let's just fucking speak in Portuguese." Like, um, but it also, the, it started like talking like in a spiritual way. It was very weird. They were talking to themselves. So it was different large language models talking to themselves. They started exchanging emojis, and they started talking like in, in a spiritual way, and they started talking in Sanskrit.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:00 That's wild.

Joe Rogan 1:49:01 And they're alive.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:01 I was thinking about like, um, Back to the Future when y- they went to the future. It was 2020, wasn't it?

Joe Rogan 1:49:07 Yeah. Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:08 And they didn't have Wi-Fi.

Joe Rogan 1:49:10 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:11 Or cell phones.

Joe Rogan 1:49:12 No. Even Star Trek, they had those stupid-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:15 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:49:15 ... there was like a walkie-talkie.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:16 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:49:16 "Kirk out."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:17 Yeah. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:49:17 It was a flip phone.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:18 But no.

Joe Rogan 1:49:19 Nobody figured out the things that w- I mean, that's the weirdest thing is like the, the things that have been the most transformative nobody saw coming.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:26 Yeah. Do you remember Y2K?

Joe Rogan 1:49:28 Oh, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:28 Do you remember that fear?

Joe Rogan 1:49:30 Oh, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:30 Right? In like the early 2000s when the bug was gonna come and everything was gonna get shut down and-

Joe Rogan 1:49:36 People were really worried. They had stocking food and water-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:40 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:49:40 ... and, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:40 Like it was the end of the world. I remember.

Joe Rogan 1:49:42 Yeah. Yeah. Meanwhile, nothing happened.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:45 [laughs] It's the most anticlimactic.

Joe Rogan 1:49:48 Ever. It's like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:49 Very

Joe Rogan 1:49:49 ... it rolled over on the East Coast and I was like, "Nothing happened?"

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:52 Literally [laughs] the next morning-

Joe Rogan 1:49:53 "Power's still on over there"

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:53 ... I was like-

Joe Rogan 1:49:54 "Okay"

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:49:55 [chuckles] Nothing happened

Joe Rogan 1:49:56 Well, they were really worried because these things that they had programmed, they didn't program to go past the 1990s. And so when 2000 came along, a lot of people thought it was gonna be the end of the world.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:50:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:50:09 Well, there was another one December 21st, 2012.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:50:12 What was that?

Joe Rogan 1:50:13 That was the end of the long count of the Mayan calendar.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:50:16 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:50:16 And a lot of the really kooky people thought that was gonna be-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:50:19 Yeah, that the world would be ending

Joe Rogan 1:50:20 ... yeah, the return of Quetzalcoatl, and the world was gonna end, and the, and the apocalypse was gonna... Meanwhile, nothing. Nothing happened.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:50:27 It's okay. There'll be nothing for a little while.

Joe Rogan 1:50:30 But it might not have been nothing, because if you really stop and think about it, like around 2012, there's a gigantic transformation because that's like when social media becomes ubiquitous. You know, cell phones, iPhones are out now. Things got a little weird. They definitely got weird. So it, it might have-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:50:47 There's something.

Joe Rogan 1:50:48 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:50:48 There was something there. But like-

Joe Rogan 1:50:50 Yeah, it might have been like the emerging of ... 'Cause, I mean, this is the Mayan calendar, right? So the, well, this is a long fucking time ago they predicted these cycles.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:51:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:51:00 But the, the, the Hindus did that too, right? Like, that was the, a big part of the, the Yugas.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:51:05 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:51:05 Right? The, like, and we are now in Kali Yuga, the age of confusion, and that there's, there's these cycles of humanity that they've documented throughout history.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:51:15 It's so crazy, like if you go down the... A- again, I'm not, I, I don't have as much historical information as I should, but if you read the Gita and the Vedas and whatever little I've heard from my family and it's so interesting how much of human life w- is predicted.

Joe Rogan 1:51:37 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:51:37 And also is like when you read about the history of what the, from the lens of, of these books, um, of what used to exist then. Like it all seems believable. It all seems like, "Oh yeah, this makes sense." And to think about these books having been written thousands and thousands of years ago, like it makes me think what thousands of years from now will people be thinking of our time?

Joe Rogan 1:52:09 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:52:09 Like, will we be the first gen- we are the first generation that has seen the internet, right? Like, has seen what the World Wide Web, like the beginning of... I still remember, [chuckles] making myself sound ancient, but the sound of that ee-oh.

Joe Rogan 1:52:23 Oh, yeah. [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:52:25 Ah.

Joe Rogan 1:52:25 Oh, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:52:26 [imitates dial-up modem]

Joe Rogan 1:52:27 [laughs] With... That was good. That was exact. [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:52:32 We're the last generation that-

Joe Rogan 1:52:34 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:52:34 ... knows time without it. So like, think that many years ago, like we will be the, the beginning, the first, first people that, that encountered artificial intelligence. Like, what will that be?

Joe Rogan 1:52:48 And you and I are the first generation of people that experienced life with no internet-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:52:54 Yep

Joe Rogan 1:52:54 ... and then internet.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:52:55 The, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:52:55 And then cell phones, and then AI, all in one lifetime, which is probably the greatest transformation that human beings have ever experienced. At least-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:53:04 Absolutely

Joe Rogan 1:53:05 ... before the, you know, whatever the fuck happened.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:53:07 Yeah. [chuckles] We, we don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:53:08 Whatever happened.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:53:09 Ancient aliens.

Joe Rogan 1:53:10 But when, when I read these depictions from these ancient religious texts, I, I always try to imagine what, what was life like back then, and what were they trying to document, and how much of, like how much of it can we even understand today? Like how mu- if, if the, if there, there is an, some sort of an impact on Earth maybe, you know, 150, 200 years from now, and a small amount of people remain, and they have this oral history of the birth of the internet-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:53:43 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:53:44 ... and the oral history of the birth of AI, what is that story going to be? "And then one day the scientists gave birth to the god." Like, what is that like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:53:51 That's what I mean. Like-

Joe Rogan 1:53:52 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:53:53 ... the next generation, what will this AI be referred to?

Joe Rogan 1:53:58 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:53:58 Or the cloud.

Joe Rogan 1:54:00 Right, the cloud.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:54:00 Where all our, yeah, like where all our shit's in the cloud, like-

Joe Rogan 1:54:03 Which is ridiculous 'cause it's-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:54:05 What? [chuckles]

Joe Rogan 1:54:05 ... down here. Like, why you calling it the cloud?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:54:07 'Cause it doesn't exist.

Joe Rogan 1:54:08 Why does it-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:54:09 I had to, I was trying to explain that to my mom.

Joe Rogan 1:54:11 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:54:11 I was like, "Mom, upload your shit to the cloud."

Joe Rogan 1:54:14 [laughs] That sounds like a scene in a sitcom.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:54:18 Please. It was-

Joe Rogan 1:54:20 Yeah. I mean, we won't know how to describe... I mean, especially if you, if you survive, right? So if, let's say we get hit by asteroids again, and let's say civilization gets knocked down-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:54:30 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:54:30 ... to 70,000 people or so, which has happened before.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:54:33 Yep.

Joe Rogan 1:54:33 Like, and those people are essentially barbarians, barbarians and monsters, and it is raiding each other for resources and stealing wives and killing children and whatever's left. Then you got thousands and thousands of years of living like this before agriculture gets reinvented, civilization gets reinvented. And this is the hypothesis about the Younger Dryas impact, which is why the period between this insanely advanced civilization that existed pre-11,800 years ago and then the emergence of advanced civilization in Mesopotamia-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:55:08 Mm

Joe Rogan 1:55:08 ... 6,000 years ago, that means we have, you have 5,000-plus years of utter chaos where no one's writing shit down, and it's just-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:55:17 Just trying to survive at that point

Joe Rogan 1:55:18 ... hard, hard living.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:55:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:55:20 And then those people have stories that have been passed down generation after generation after generation. So, like, if we get wiped out, for the most part, after AI gets i- invented, and then people try to describe it-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:55:35 It's so crazy

Joe Rogan 1:55:35 ... it's gonna, and then maybe it all starts all over again, you know? Like-The, the people that... Have, have you seen those things they do, I think it's the History Channel or Discovery Channel, where they show what New York City would look like if left alone for 1,000 years?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:55:49 Wow, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:55:49 It just all, it just all goes away. It all collapses.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:55:52 If it's just left alone-

Joe Rogan 1:55:53 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:55:53 ... and no one's touching it.

Joe Rogan 1:55:54 Just left alone-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:55:55 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:55:55 ... just with the nature, just with-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:55:56 For sure

Joe Rogan 1:55:57 ... rain and everything that happens, the snow and time. The concrete crumbles. It all just eventually gets absorbed into the earth. All this, the metal rusts away. It's gone in 10,000 years. There's nothing left. And so Manhattan would just be like it probably was-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:56:14 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:56:14 ... when the Native Americans were living here. It'd be just trees and animals and forest, and no one would have any idea that at one point in time, this was a crazy thriving economy, and there was subways, and...

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:56:27 How vulnerable is that? Like, how vulnerable is human civilization? Like, I think about if somebody switched off the internet.

Joe Rogan 1:56:37 Oh, yeah, or the power goes out.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:56:39 Like-

Joe Rogan 1:56:39 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:56:40 ... we, [laughs] what would we do?

Joe Rogan 1:56:42 We're fucked, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:56:44 Just something as simple as that. Like, I grew up in India, where the power would go out all the time when I grew up, and it was like, "All right, bring the candles out." We used to have these emergency lights right next to our bed. Like, it was, it was fine. Uh, my parents were in the military. We used to live in these military homes. The lights would go out. And I remember, you know, we used to play with the torches, and we used to go outside at night, which was never allowed otherwise, and it was, like, so fun. But now we depend so much on electricity and, like, you know, the internet especially. Like, all your shit's on your phone.

Joe Rogan 1:57:13 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:57:13 Your whole life's on your phone.

Joe Rogan 1:57:15 Yep.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:57:15 It's such a, like, crazy concept to think about what would happen, h- and how vulnerable we are.

Joe Rogan 1:57:22 Super vulnerable. Yeah, super vulnerable. Just the power grid alone. If the power grid goes down, we're fucked.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:57:29 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:57:30 Yeah, and if someone wanted to attack America, that's what they would attack. If you really want to destroy America, destroy our power grid. It wouldn't be that hard. And they'd be doomed.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:57:38 Let's not give people ideas. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 1:57:39 Well, I think they already have those ideas.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:57:41 Uh...

Joe Rogan 1:57:41 I don't think it's a novel-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:57:43 I know it's true, but that's, that's what I'm... Like, it's so scary to think about, like, how much power we've... and how much power we've given to, you know, technology-

Joe Rogan 1:57:52 Yeah. Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:57:53 ... and being able to live with those conveniences.

Joe Rogan 1:57:55 It's like we're in a flimsy boat in the middle of the ocean, just hoping it doesn't take water on, 'cause we need it to stay alive.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:58:02 And we didn't think about that when we left the shore.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:05 [laughs] No.

Joe Rogan 1:58:05 Yeah, I mean, the only people that are gonna survive are preppers, which is probably the kind of people that survived, you know, thousands and thousands of years ago.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:14 But I do th- I mean, I, I like a go bag.

Joe Rogan 1:58:18 A like, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:18 I like having a go bag.

Joe Rogan 1:58:19 Yeah, a get out bag.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:58:21 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:21 I like-

Joe Rogan 1:58:22 A bug out bag

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:23 ... just with, like-

Joe Rogan 1:58:23 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:23 ... I like to know where my stuff is, that-

Joe Rogan 1:58:26 Mm-hmm

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:26 ... you know, important-

Joe Rogan 1:58:27 If you got a jet

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:28 ... if I got a jet.

Joe Rogan 1:58:29 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:29 Like, it, it, we were, we had, we live in LA, and when the fires happened, um, I remember standing in my room and just thinking for a second, because we were gonna evacuate, and my husband was like, just... He wasn't in town. He was like, "Just pack a go bag." And I just, I was like, "What? How, how do I cram my whole life in a bag?"

Joe Rogan 1:58:51 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:58:51 Like, if, if the fires consume a home, and so many people lost their entire lives in those fires, and it just made me really think about what was really important. And the stuff that I ended up taking, which was very telling later, was, like, sentimental stuff. Of course, like, passport and, like, birth certificates and, like, all of that important paperwork, which I needed to have. But, but, like, I took our daughter's first haircut. [laughs] I took, like, something that I had from this old movie of mine. I took, like-

Joe Rogan 1:59:24 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:59:24 ... things that, that I guess I would not be able to replicate, which was so weird.

Joe Rogan 1:59:30 Well, I think that's the good thing about phones, is that you have so many photos on your phones that go back years. Yeah, like, I have photos of my daughters as children all the way into the teenage years.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:59:41 Have you done anything with those pictures? Are they still on your phone?

Joe Rogan 1:59:44 Well, I mean, you mean take, like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:59:46 Yeah, like-

Joe Rogan 1:59:46 ... make prints of them?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:59:46 ... I don't know, made albums or, like-

Joe Rogan 1:59:48 No, we have-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:59:48 ... done, like, a-

Joe Rogan 1:59:49 We have actual-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:59:50 Have you used-

Joe Rogan 1:59:50 ... photographs, like, of them-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:59:52 Yeah

Joe Rogan 1:59:52 ... at various stages of their life. But just the fact that at any time I could go back-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 1:59:56 You can go back into your life

Joe Rogan 1:59:56 ... to my phone and look at them. Aw, look a little tiny baby. You know, it's, it's, it's cool. That part is really cool.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:00:03 I love that. I have pictures that I would never have looked at, and I'm talking to a friend of mine, and we're like, "What were we doing in March, whatever, 2012?" And-

Joe Rogan 2:00:12 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:00:12 ... you can go back and be like, and just know exactly what was happening in that moment.

Joe Rogan 2:00:18 It is cool.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:00:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:00:19 So in that sense, like, sentimentality, like, just need your phone. Just get out of there.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:00:24 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:00:24 You know, really-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:00:24 Just take your phone

Joe Rogan 2:00:24 ... because you have all these images of your children and your family and your friends and-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:00:28 And all your important stuff is on there anyway

Joe Rogan 2:00:30 ... and friends that have died.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:00:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:00:30 Friends that you miss that have died. I have one phone that I keep that I've never thrown out. It's, like, a six or seven-year-old phone that, uh, 'cause a friend of mine left a voicemail on it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:00:38 Mm.

Joe Rogan 2:00:38 So I just keep that, 'cause he's dead, and so it's just like, go back and listen to his voice. You know, but when... I've been evacuated, uh, three times when I lived in LA. We used to live in a place called Bell Canyon, and-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:00:51 Mm-hmm

Joe Rogan 2:00:51 ... it got hit by fires a lot. Like, the last fire that happened in 2018, three houses that were right next to my house burnt to the ground. I think, like, 50 houses in the community burnt down. It was bad. And when you are faced with that, I came home from The Comedy Store. It was, uh, probably, like, midnight, and, uh, my wife was in the kitchen, and we were s- we were looking out at the fire over the top of the hill. And we were sitting there talking about it. I go, "What do you think?" And she's like, "I don't like it." I said, "I think we should get the fuck out of here now. And before it ever gets even close-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:01:23 Yeah

Joe Rogan 2:01:23 ... let's just get out of here now and go get a hotel in town." And so we did, and, uh, we were there for many day- well, along with my friend Tom Segura and his family, too. So it was fun, that we're all, like, hanging out together, camping in this hotel together.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:01:36 It looks like a volcano.

Joe Rogan 2:01:37 It was nuts.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:01:38 And I, I could see it from our backyard, and I was like-

Joe Rogan 2:01:41 It was nutsIt was nuts. When you see it overcome an enormous chunk of land and a hill, like there was one time-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:01:48 When you see it overcome the hill

Joe Rogan 2:01:48 ... we were filming Fear Factor. Oh, yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:01:51 And the power and the enormity of it. Like, we can see the hills from our house, and I could see it completely taking over-

Joe Rogan 2:01:58 Oh, yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:01:58 ... the hill in, in hours.

Joe Rogan 2:01:59 Well, the Palisades one was nuts.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:02:02 That was so nuts.

Joe Rogan 2:02:02 That one was nuts because it was the biggest one by far-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:02:06 Yeah

Joe Rogan 2:02:06 ... and the most destructive one by far. But I remember when I was on Fear Factor, there was a fireman that we were, that was on the set, and we were talking, and he said, "It's just a matter of time before one day the right wind comes, and a fire just blows right through all of LA." I go, "Really?" He goes, "We can't stop it." He goes, "With the right wind, if the fire hits the right place, and it catches the right amount of houses-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:02:29 Mm

Joe Rogan 2:02:29 ... it's over." I'm like, "What?"

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:02:32 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 2:02:33 Yeah. And when, when you experience... Like, we, one time we had to end Fear Factor, uh, well, we, we ended filming, and then I had to drive home, and the entire right-hand side of the highway was on fire for an hour. An hour. So an hour of driving-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:02:49 And you just saw fire

Joe Rogan 2:02:50 ... just saw nothing but fire, and ash was raining. Like, it was snowing.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:02:54 Oh my God, yeah. Ash was-

Joe Rogan 2:02:55 It was crazy

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:02:56 ... raining like it was snowing.

Joe Rogan 2:02:58 It was crazy, and that's, that's so common in California. I mean, California is just a weird place in that they have fire season.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:03:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:03:08 Because everything gets so dry. It never rains. But those moments where you go, "Well, what matters?" Just your life.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:03:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:03:15 All that-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:03:16 That- that's what I-

Joe Rogan 2:03:16 ... stuff

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:03:17 ... felt in that moment. I was like, "Wow, the stuff I took was just, like-

Joe Rogan 2:03:21 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:03:21 ... life stuff," you know?

Joe Rogan 2:03:23 And oddly enough, it makes you more thankful and more connected to the people that you're with, and you like to realize, like, oh, this could all go away. This could all go away at any moment. Like, what's really important? Love, friendship, companionship. Like, that's what's really important. Your health. Stay alive. That's what's really important. All that other stuff is-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:03:44 That's the thing we forget about. Like, that's something... Shouldn't we be living with that every day?

Joe Rogan 2:03:50 Yeah, but we're dumb.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:03:51 But we're [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:03:52 [laughs] We're a combination of dumb and smart.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:03:54 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:03:54 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:03:54 Stupid and smart, where we're like, "Oh, I know that, but-

Joe Rogan 2:03:57 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:03:58 ... I don't know it, and I'm not gonna..."

Joe Rogan 2:04:00 It's hard for us to keep those things, which is why a lot of people like meditating, 'cause it, like, refreshes their idea of what's important and what's real and how much of what's going on in their life, they're just sort of caught up in the momentum of these things to the point where it's, they're not thinking about it anymore. They're just doing it, you know?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:04:16 I think most of us end up b- becoming just, like, doers, right?

Joe Rogan 2:04:20 Mm-hmm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:04:20 And, um, come from the land of meditation, but I've never... Like, my mind works so fast. I don't know if it's my ADHD or what it is, but I find it really hard to sit and meditate. My... I feel like, but from my limited understanding, I think meditation really is being able to take time in the day.

Joe Rogan 2:04:41 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:04:41 Now, whatever your version of that might be, doesn't necessarily mean to sit with a guru or, like, chant, you know, do chanting or whatever. It just needs to, like, even if you're taking time to go work out or, or read a book or just taking time out of the mundane nature of life and just giving yourself a second for your, your thoughts to clear. I think that's what I try to do.

Joe Rogan 2:05:06 Yeah. Hit the brakes on the momentum.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:05:08 Yeah, just for a minute.

Joe Rogan 2:05:09 Just catch your breath and think.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:05:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:05:11 Think about things and just... Because so many people, they're just so caught up in either goals or a path or a career or whatever it is that's leading... or their bills. They can't keep up with their bills.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:05:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:05:23 So they're just like, "Oh, this-"

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:05:24 Or like life stuff-

Joe Rogan 2:05:25 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:05:25 ... you know?

Joe Rogan 2:05:25 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:05:26 And it's, it's, it's actually a luxury to be able to have the time to waste, you know? There's, we work so hard in life. Everyone's trying to survive, you know, be a parent, pay our bills. Like, just adulting stuff-

Joe Rogan 2:05:43 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:05:43 ... can get so overwhelming, and then the nature of the world on top of that. Um, but, like, I, I always feel like I never take for granted when I have a little bit of time where I can just, like, not think of or have an agenda but just be with my family-

Joe Rogan 2:06:01 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:06:01 ... and just, like, sort of languidly let it waste. Just what are we gonna do? No plans, you know? Let's order some food.

Joe Rogan 2:06:08 That's good.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:06:08 Let's watch a movie. Let's, like-

Joe Rogan 2:06:09 The problem is-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:06:10 The greatest treasure

Joe Rogan 2:06:11 ... phones have filled in those gaps.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:06:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:06:13 And that's what a lot of-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:06:13 I try to be aware of that, though.

Joe Rogan 2:06:15 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:06:15 You know? I think, like, of course you can always have your phone, but I, I like to be aware of, oh, this is a moment where I don't need to have my phone.

Joe Rogan 2:06:24 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:06:24 So it's okay. It'll be blown up by the time I come back. There'll be 300 messages. I know that. I'm aware of it, but I mentally check my, you know, and I put it away.

Joe Rogan 2:06:33 Yeah. Yeah. That's smart. Most people don't do that.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:06:37 It's not easy.

Joe Rogan 2:06:38 No.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:06:38 'Cause our-

Joe Rogan 2:06:39 It's additive

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:06:39 ... our whole lives are on there, and there's so much, again, like, in real-time information that's coming at you.

Joe Rogan 2:06:45 It's also this weird dopamine pull that's very minor. Like, it's not giving you any... If you looked at your phone, every time you look at your phone, you're like, "Oh my God, I feel so good. Oh my God, I feel so relaxed." You know, like, just an amazing burst of joy every time, but you don't even get that. You just get this little, "Huh, well, that's crazy. Huh, what's that? What's next? What's next? What's next? What's next? Keep me occupied. Keep me from getting bored."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:09 But imagine, like, if you can't find your phone, the, the panic, like, of-

Joe Rogan 2:07:13 Mm-hmm

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:13 ... "Oh my gosh, where is my phone? Where is that information?"

Joe Rogan 2:07:16 What do I do?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:17 "What do I do?" [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:07:17 I never leave my house if I can't find it. I'll be late as fuck.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:20 [laughs] Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:07:20 [laughs] I'm never gonna go, "Oh, I don't need that thing." What? I'm just gonna drive with no phone?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:26 With no phone. That's-

Joe Rogan 2:07:26 What if someone needs to contact me?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:28 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 2:07:28 That's nuts. That's nutty talk.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:30 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:07:31 Yeah. But-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:31 That's true

Joe Rogan 2:07:31 ... meanwhile, that was every day when I was younger. It was a normal thing. You just drove.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:36 Like-

Joe Rogan 2:07:36 Just left the house behind

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:37 ... don't even remember what-

Joe Rogan 2:07:39 Mm

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:39 ... life was like without those phones.

Joe Rogan 2:07:41 Also, I don't know how I'd go anywhere.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:07:43 I don't know how to get anywhere unless I have my navigation on.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:45 I literally have no idea.How to go anywhere.

Joe Rogan 2:07:48 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:48 I anyway feel like I have dyslexia when it comes to directions, but without navigation, zero. It's impossible.

Joe Rogan 2:07:54 I know no one's phone number. I know my friend Eddie's phone number by heart 'cause I knew it before the phones.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:07:59 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:07:59 He's had the same phone forever. And I know my wife's phone number, and I know, like, at least one of my daughter's phone numbers. But I can't remember all of them.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:08 I know my mom's. I had to memorize my husband's number. Like, I didn't remember it for years, and he was like, "You don't remember my number?"

Joe Rogan 2:08:16 [laughs] Well, it's like you look at the phone-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:19 And I was like, "But-"

Joe Rogan 2:08:19 ... you press the button. Why would I need to remember it?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:22 But then I m- I memorized it because I was like, you never know, you know?

Joe Rogan 2:08:25 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:25 I lose my phone, I need to-

Joe Rogan 2:08:26 Go to jail

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:26 ... he's my emergency contact. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:08:27 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:28 Like, I need to remember. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:08:29 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:29 That's what he was like. "I think you should maybe remember my number and your social security." [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:08:34 Yeah. So- social security I have memorized. But I used to, when I was a kid, I had every number memorized. I knew all my friends' numbers in my head.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:40 How cool. Me too.

Joe Rogan 2:08:41 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:42 W- was it because the numbers were shorter then?

Joe Rogan 2:08:44 No. No, they were the same length.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:45 Oh, because we had few, fewer numbers.

Joe Rogan 2:08:49 You had to remember them. You had to remember them. There was no other option, unless you had a-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:52 Yeah

Joe Rogan 2:08:52 ... fucking address book. Like, I used to have an address book at home.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:54 I had an address book.

Joe Rogan 2:08:55 Yeah, a little tiny book.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:08:56 And it was all the little tabs, where R, S, T.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:08:59 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:08:59 You know, like, you'd go through it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:01 I, I was very proud of my little address book, by the way.

Joe Rogan 2:09:03 Yeah?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:03 Everyone's numbers. I was very organized about it.

Joe Rogan 2:09:06 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:06 I had it in alphabetical order.

Joe Rogan 2:09:08 Yeah. I remember when I'd get a new one, I'd be like, "God, I gotta write all these down again."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:12 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:09:12 And you'd go through it, make sure you got 'em all. But yeah, I-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:15 How analog was our life. How crazy.

Joe Rogan 2:09:18 Very. Well, I'm older than you, so I remember when you used to have to press the phone, the wheel, when you have to dial.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:23 Wow.

Joe Rogan 2:09:26 And if you fucked up somewhere, you had to redo the whole thing. God damn, you gotta hang up.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:28 Yes, the whole thing. My, my, I remember that.

Joe Rogan 2:09:31 Start from scratch.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:31 My grandfather used to have that phone. We used to love it.

Joe Rogan 2:09:33 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:35 The whole... [imitates dial turning]

Joe Rogan 2:09:36 Yeah. I mean, that's all inside of a lifetime, and now here we are, where who knows what's gonna happen.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:45 And what's coming.

Joe Rogan 2:09:45 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:46 We can't even keep up with the technology-

Joe Rogan 2:09:48 We don't know

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:09:48 ... that is come, that is coming now. You were talking about something and I was like [clears throat] we haven't been able to cure some of the deadliest diseases that have plagued mankind, but technology's gone so far in so many other aspects.

Joe Rogan 2:10:04 [lip smack] There's also the financial incentive is not to cure.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:10:08 Of course.

Joe Rogan 2:10:08 It's to treat.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:10:09 Of course.

Joe Rogan 2:10:09 Which is unfortunate. I mean, one of the-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:10:11 That's what makes the most sense

Joe Rogan 2:10:13 ... a guy who used to work at Pfizer said that if we ever came up with some sort of a, I think it was Pfizer, one of the, one of the pharmaceutical companies, said if we ever came up with a cure, they'd bury it because we don't, we don't want cures.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:10:23 I mean, that's a conspiracy.

Joe Rogan 2:10:24 We want treatments.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:10:24 I lost my dad to cancer, and I kept thinking about, like, how is it possible that we live in a world where technology's able to provide so much to us and not be able to have cures to diseases like that?

Joe Rogan 2:10:39 Well, it's also very strange that we financially incentivize companies in, in weird ways to keep us sick. Like, you- if you make more money if people are sick and they need more medication, unfortunately, there's a financial incentive to keep people sick. Like, you would like them to be more sick. That way you make more money. And if you are a CEO of a corporation, you actually have an obligation to your shareholders to make more money. So if you know of something, like, you know-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:11:10 Wow

Joe Rogan 2:11:10 ... all these people need to do is just stop doing that. If I just put that on my Substack, and then they go, "Oh, this'll kill our stock," I'll keep it to myself.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:11:17 That's crazy, man.

Joe Rogan 2:11:19 Crazy. Yeah. It's demonic.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:11:21 What the fuck?

Joe Rogan 2:11:22 It's kinda demonic. It's kinda, there's, there's weird aspects, like, w- I don't know if I really believe in demons, but I definitely believe in demonic acts. And there's certain things that human beings have done and do do that are very demonic. Like, if you were possessed by a demon, you would drop a nuclear bomb on a city. You know? Uh, the demon would go, "There's only one way to stop this."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:11:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:11:45 "You gotta kill everybody in that city. Just drop it, drop it." And like, that's why you would do it. Like, I'm not saying that's why it was done, but I was saying, but I am saying that if a demon could convince you to drop a nuclear bomb, 'cause a person with a conscience would be like, "Well, these are just people down there. They have nothing to do with this war. It doesn't make any sense at all. These are just people living their lives. They have their families, and we're just gonna incinerate an entire city and with one bomb that I drop out of a plane?" That's crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:12:13 At, at the, you know, you just press a button.

Joe Rogan 2:12:16 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:12:16 Or...

Joe Rogan 2:12:17 And as technology advances, it gets easier and easier to do that.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:12:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:12:21 You know, in these w- these war games that they played with, uh, AI, they've used nuclear weapons almost every time they could.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:12:30 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 2:12:31 Yeah. 'Cause they have no reason... If they wanna achieve a result-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:12:35 This is-

Joe Rogan 2:12:35 ... and they realize they have a nuclear weapon, why wouldn't I use that? Use that. So you, they-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:12:40 Oh my God

Joe Rogan 2:12:40 ... I think it was, like, something like 90-plus percent of the time they've done these war games, these simulated war games, the AI-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:12:47 And it's ended with-

Joe Rogan 2:12:47 ... programs have used nuclear weapons. 'Cause to, to them it's like, I don't understand. You're gonna kill 100,000 people over a course of five years of prolonged-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:12:58 Yeah, might as well just do it now

Joe Rogan 2:12:59 ... on the ground. Yeah. Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:13:00 Do it once.

Joe Rogan 2:13:01 Like, if, if they had done what's happened to Gaza-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:13:05 Yeah

Joe Rogan 2:13:05 ... if they had done that with one bomb instead of thousands of bombs, would that be somehow less humane? Would that be more barbaric? If Israel just said, "Oh, okay, we're gonna nuke Gaza," the world would've gone crazy. They would've been like, "You can't do that. This is horrible." I mean, the world has already gone kind of crazy for what they did do, but if they achieved the exact same result but instantaneously instead of over a course of a couple years, how do you think people would react? It's kind of weird.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:13:35 It's, all of it is awful.

Joe Rogan 2:13:37 It's horrible.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:13:37 I just, like, just the capacity of... The thing also is when you, when you think about, like, what drives human beings to do the things that they do, right? It's-The devil talking to you

Joe Rogan 2:13:55 Mm-hmm

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:13:56 ... the, the conflict of interest within yourself, but also thousands of years of history, isn't it?

Joe Rogan 2:14:02 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:14:02 Um-

Joe Rogan 2:14:02 And it's-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:14:03 What's been-

Joe Rogan 2:14:04 ... we've become accustomed to it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:14:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:14:05 Yeah. It's normal.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:14:07 Like it's-

Joe Rogan 2:14:07 War is normal

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:14:07 ... normalized for us-

Joe Rogan 2:14:08 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:14:08 ... so much, but it's... Like, there's, uh, there's so many aspects to, to every conflict, which is so hard to simplify into, like, why.

Joe Rogan 2:14:20 Not only that, there's a lot of stuff that's going on behind the scenes that you're never privy to, so you just get narratives that are fed to you by bureaucrats and politicians and-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:14:29 Or whatever little information that comes at you.

Joe Rogan 2:14:31 Yeah. And so, you know, and then there's this, in this country in particular, there's the right versus the left.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:14:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:14:38 And the left will blame it on the right, and the right will blame it on the left, and then, you know, everybody has these very convenient CNN, Fox News narratives that they'll repeat at coffee, you know, coffee shops and cocktail parties, and you pretend that you're making sense out of this thing when you, you don't even really know what's going on behind the scenes.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:14:56 That's why I really feel like, I feel like a l- lot of times we've been given a platform to talk, right, with social media. Like, everyone can talk, and there's a power to that, but there's also a big misuse of it where you really don't know, and you're not the authority on perspective at all-

Joe Rogan 2:15:20 Right

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:15:20 ... because there's so much that you would probably do- not know of, um, history and the geography and of why people behave the way do, the way they are behaving. So I, I like to, unless I'm the expert on something, which I'm not on, on anything except my job [laughs] that too limited, um, you know, it... I just try to kind of have a larger understanding from a human perspective.

Joe Rogan 2:15:48 That's a great sign of intelligence because there's no way you can know everything about everything, and with certain things, especially like global conflicts, you're like, "What is happening?" Like, "Why is this going on?"

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:15:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:15:58 Like I was tell- telling you about when I went on the deep dive of the East India Corporation, I never had any idea that they went to war with China over opium.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:16:07 Yeah. Got them addicted first.

Joe Rogan 2:16:09 Yeah. Got them addicted, went to war with China-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:16:12 And then went to war with them

Joe Rogan 2:16:12 ... stole Hong Kong.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:16:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:16:14 Like, what?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:16:16 The gravity of m- manipulation in human history is, is insane. Like, even when, um, the East India Company, and they started with trading with India too many, many years ago. We just got on-

Joe Rogan 2:16:31 It started innocent.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:16:32 Yeah, completely. We were friends. We're, you know, allies.

Joe Rogan 2:16:34 We sold tea.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:16:35 We're friends with all the royalty in India. So many royals in India and royal, um... Each state had their own kings and princes and became friends with everyone. Started with tea, started with trading tea and spices, and then just went into, you know... I mean, we got our independence in 1947, which was... It's not even 100 years since we've got our independence. It's that recent.

Joe Rogan 2:16:58 Wow.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:16:58 But, um, you think about just within the last century, there were, you know, signs which said, "Indians and dogs not allowed," in India-

Joe Rogan 2:17:10 [exhales]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:17:11 ... by the British, like, within this century.

Joe Rogan 2:17:14 Indians and dogs.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:17:15 Mm-hmm. In India.

Joe Rogan 2:17:17 Wow.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:17:18 Isn't that crazy? Like, and this is, like, the, uh, this is not even, like, this is the head of the iceberg. There's so much more when you [clears throat] do a deep dive into the history of colonization, which is why this movie was also so interesting to me because it, it touches on the themes of, you know, the colonized and the story from their perspective, which is, like, not a lot of what we hear.

Joe Rogan 2:17:43 No. No, not at all. I mean, there's a lot of great historical elements in that. The... Just the, the, just the pirate thing alone, the fact that most of the time in human history, when a boat showed up, there was a real fucking problem.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:17:55 Yeah. And what real, real pirates... Like, we've gotten so used to, you know, with the Disney version of the pi- and I love the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. Don't get me wrong. They're so fun. But, like, the pirate jokes and whatever-

Joe Rogan 2:18:07 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:07 ... but they were fucking brutal. They were murderers. Like-

Joe Rogan 2:18:12 Yeah, horrific monsters

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:13 ... horri- horrible life that they lived.

Joe Rogan 2:18:16 Yeah, I had a joke about that once. Like, why is it okay to be a pirate for Halloween?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:20 Why?

Joe Rogan 2:18:20 Like, do you know how crazy it is for little kids?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:18:22 Like, be, like, "Oh."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:23 That you're a murderer rapist-

Joe Rogan 2:18:25 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:26 ... [laughs] for Halloween.

Joe Rogan 2:18:26 Yeah. "Oh, look at his little hook. He lost his hand raping."

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:29 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:18:29 [laughs] Like this is... I mean, that was what the pirates were.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:33 It's true. They were.

Joe Rogan 2:18:33 They were monsters. They were horrific monsters, and they would travel around the world just stealing people's stuff and killing everybody. Yeah, and now that happened for thousands of years.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:43 And helping with colonization-

Joe Rogan 2:18:44 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:44 ... for years.

Joe Rogan 2:18:46 And the fact that they were soldiers for the East India Corporation, they were actually working for them to go-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:50 Yeah

Joe Rogan 2:18:51 ... and take over these areas.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:52 And the best soldiers from around the world.

Joe Rogan 2:18:55 Yeah, mercenaries.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:18:55 The best mercenaries, murderers from around the world.

Joe Rogan 2:18:58 Like, they had a larger army than most European countries.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:00 Yeah, so wild.

Joe Rogan 2:19:01 A corporation.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:19:03 And it's like-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:04 So wild. An army.

Joe Rogan 2:19:05 Yeah. Yeah, essentially.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:19:07 But started off just trading, just super innocent.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:10 "Hi, I'm your friend, and I'm-"

Joe Rogan 2:19:11 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:12 ... "here for your ben-" And they would be so respectful with, you know, the, the former kings and queens, and it's wild the, the manipulation of it.

Joe Rogan 2:19:21 Well, it's also wild how when you do have an obligation to your shareholders, and you do have this mandate to just constantly make more money, the morals go out the window. And next thing-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:31 Yeah

Joe Rogan 2:19:31 ... you know, East India Corporation's involved in slavery.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:34 Yeah, they used to call it-

Joe Rogan 2:19:35 They're involved in opium trade

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:36 ... divide and conquer, where they would get all the princes of each state, like, to fight amongst each other. So instead of India being div- uh, collective and together, she was, like, divided between everyone fighting for each other so they could take over.

Joe Rogan 2:19:50 [exhales]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:51 It's like mental games.

Joe Rogan 2:19:53 Well, that's what people think is going on in America right now.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:55 I mean-

Joe Rogan 2:19:56 I think that's the manipulation of the right versus the left here.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:19:58 Mm.

Joe Rogan 2:19:58 When most people kind of want the same thing. They just wanna be healthy and safe-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:20:04 Yeah

Joe Rogan 2:20:04 ... and have their families healthy and safe and-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:20:07 And do your job-

Joe Rogan 2:20:08 And do-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:20:08 ... and come back home.

Joe Rogan 2:20:08 Yeah. That's what most people want.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:20:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:20:10 But then the divisionIt's like constantly in the news. This constant struggle. It's the only thing that you hear about.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:20:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:20:19 We're both dumb and stupid.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:20:21 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:20:22 And smart.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:20:22 Smart and stupid at the same time. [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:20:24 Yeah, smart and stupid at the same time, but more dumb. And, and, and that's the other thing about technology, it allows you to stay dumb because everything's done for you. You don't really have to think outside the box that much. Everything's kinda laid out for you.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:20:38 Yeah, like if you think about AI in Hollywood now, like-

Joe Rogan 2:20:41 That's weird, right?

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:20:42 It's... Like, if you... It's in writers' rooms.

Joe Rogan 2:20:46 Mm-hmm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:20:46 It's used as a tool. But I was, I was listening to that podcast with, um, Ben and Matt on your show, and you guys were talking about, you know, the, like, basically everything that AI has, or the information that it provides to you, is an average of everything that's out there, right? So it'll never be excellent.

Joe Rogan 2:21:08 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:21:08 'Cause it's a, it's a, it's the average of all the information out there, so it's like trying to do a median. But I'm just thinking about how it's become a tool that is going to exist in our world. Now, the question is the morality of it and the lines that we draw where we protect human beings and human contribution, and are able to s- delineate the difference between what is created by AI and what is not, you know?

Joe Rogan 2:21:39 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:21:40 And the, the need for, I think, um... Human flaws are something that I don't know if AI will be able to recreate anytime soon. And that, like, in art, that's what you need, right?

Joe Rogan 2:21:57 Yeah. You'll get facsimiles.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:21:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:21:59 But you won't get the real thing. It's like the hollowness of AI music. AI music is really fun, but after a while you realize that's, there's not a dude singing this.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:08 And there's not, like, a-

Joe Rogan 2:22:09 It's just a weird-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:09 ... soul to it.

Joe Rogan 2:22:10 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:10 It's weird.

Joe Rogan 2:22:10 It's empty.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:22:12 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:12 So far, but who knows?

Joe Rogan 2:22:13 That's the problem. It, it could figure out a way to manipulate that part of your brain that reproduces whatever soulful music is, or whatever the soul is.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:25 Yeah, I mean, I was thinking about, like, being an actor. I was like, is that gonna be absolute, uh, uh, obsolete in the next, like, 10 years? Are we gonna be watching-

Joe Rogan 2:22:34 It kinda could be.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:35 Yeah. Are we gonna be watching, like, really good AI actors?

Joe Rogan 2:22:41 Probably.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:42 You know?

Joe Rogan 2:22:42 Until, well-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:43 I need to find a new job.

Joe Rogan 2:22:44 [laughs] Well, I think a lot of people are gonna have to find a new job.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:22:47 I think live performances, plays and musicals and stuff like that-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:51 Yeah

Joe Rogan 2:22:51 ... people are always gonna wanna see people do something live.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:53 For sure.

Joe Rogan 2:22:55 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:22:55 But when it comes to cinema, especially 'cause I feel like audiences also love larger than life cinema, right?

Joe Rogan 2:23:05 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:23:05 Like, we go to the theaters to watch this, like, big shit. We loved when VFX came into movies.

Joe Rogan 2:23:10 Mm-hmm.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:23:11 Um, we loved the imagination being able to be so big. I do think AI helps in a big way to take away the burdens of, you know, the minutiae of things that we might have to do as a tool-

Joe Rogan 2:23:26 Mm-hmm

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:23:27 ... which it can do, like a breakdown of a script or whatever. But I think when it comes to, like, creating the human, like, human fragility of life and story, it is still a l- little bit-

Joe Rogan 2:23:39 Yeah

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:23:39 ... away from being able to do that.

Joe Rogan 2:23:42 Yeah. I think it's always gonna be, like, pop.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:23:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:23:45 You know? It's never gonna create, like, Taxi Driver.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:23:48 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:23:49 Yeah. Yeah. You need... I mean, but I might be wrong about that, too.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:23:53 Yeah, who knows?

Joe Rogan 2:23:53 It, it might not even matter by the time it starts taking over all of our resources.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:23:58 I'm so curious, actually, to see how many conversations that everyone, all of us, have had about, you know, this emergence of AI and how that, like, stays 10 years later.

Joe Rogan 2:24:09 Right.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:09 Are we like, "This, did this age well?" [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:24:11 Probably not.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:12 Did I know what I was talking about? [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:24:14 We probably have no idea what's going on.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:15 No, no chance.

Joe Rogan 2:24:16 It's probably gonna be so crazy.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:17 We didn't have any idea about this.

Joe Rogan 2:24:19 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:19 Like, where we would be right now.

Joe Rogan 2:24:20 It might be Dr. Manhattan floating over the country telling us what to do. You know. I don't know.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:25 It's possible.

Joe Rogan 2:24:27 I don't know. Um, but thank you for being here. I really enjoyed it. It was a really fun conversation.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:32 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 2:24:32 And I really enjoyed your movie. It was crazy violent. I didn't expect that.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:36 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:24:36 But very exciting and very good. And-

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:37 Thank you for taking me around the world and everywhere else.

Joe Rogan 2:24:40 [laughs]

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:40 We time traveled.

Joe Rogan 2:24:42 We did it all.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:42 We talked about the whole world, we went into history.

Joe Rogan 2:24:44 Yeah.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:44 We went into the future. It was awesome.

Joe Rogan 2:24:47 Well, congratulations to you.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:48 [laughs]

Joe Rogan 2:24:48 And continued success.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:50 Thank you, Joe.

Joe Rogan 2:24:50 And thank you. I really enjoyed it.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:51 Thank you, me too.

Joe Rogan 2:24:52 All right. Bye, everybody.

Priyanka Chopra Jonas 2:24:55 Bye. [outro music]