The Joe Rogan ExperienceDave Smith on Joe Rogan: Why collective punishment aids war
Why collective punishment logic is used to justify Gaza civilian deaths; Smith argues most war justifications collapse under basic moral reasoning.
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- JRJoe Rogan
So Dave, you were telling me right before the show that you are now retiring because you got an impromptu phone call and bet hundreds of millions of dollars on oil prices going down. Congratulations.
- DSDave Smith
It was, uh, it was a good bet, it just wasn't timed right.
- JRJoe Rogan
I thought you got it in on time.
- DSDave Smith
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
I thought you got it in, like-
- SPSpeaker
Did you miss him?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
I thought you got it in, like, five minutes early.
- DSDave Smith
[laughs] I did not. I did not.
- JRJoe Rogan
But how is there not a massive investigation to that right away? Didn't someone make, like, $1.8 billion-
- DSDave Smith
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... in like five minutes?
- DSDave Smith
Yeah. There's a, there's a lot of those, like, trades like that that should be investigated-
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro
- DSDave Smith
... that kinda never are.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro. How about, what's his name? Lutnick?
- DSDave Smith
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, how about that one?
- DSDave Smith
He's... So he's a-
- JRJoe Rogan
The tariffs one
- DSDave Smith
... working for the administration, and also standing to gain huge if people can sue over the, the tariffs, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, explain the whole thing.
- DSDave Smith
Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, do you know how to-
- DSDave Smith
Do you-
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you know the actual details of it?
- DSDave Smith
No, I don't really know the, the details.
- JRJoe Rogan
So essentially he was telling everybody that, you know, "Don't sweat it, the tariffs are golden. We're getting them through. There's gonna be no problems." Is that what it was? But in, and meanwhile, he was shorting the tariffs?
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