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Dave Smith on Joe Rogan: Why collective punishment aids war

Why collective punishment logic is used to justify Gaza civilian deaths; Smith argues most war justifications collapse under basic moral reasoning.

Joe RoganhostDave Smithguest
Mar 26, 20262h 52mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. SP

    Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat rock music]

  2. JR

    So Dave, you were telling me right before the show that you are now retiring because you got an impromptu phone call and bet hundreds of millions of dollars on oil prices going down. Congratulations.

  3. DS

    It was, uh, it was a good bet, it just wasn't timed right.

  4. JR

    I thought you got it in on time.

  5. DS

    [laughs]

  6. JR

    I thought you got it in, like-

  7. SP

    Did you miss him?

  8. JR

    Yeah.

  9. DS

    [laughs]

  10. JR

    I thought you got it in, like, five minutes early.

  11. DS

    [laughs] I did not. I did not.

  12. JR

    But how is there not a massive investigation to that right away? Didn't someone make, like, $1.8 billion-

  13. DS

    Yeah

  14. JR

    ... in like five minutes?

  15. DS

    Yeah. There's a, there's a lot of those, like, trades like that that should be investigated-

  16. JR

    Bro

  17. DS

    ... that kinda never are.

  18. JR

    Bro. How about, what's his name? Lutnick?

  19. DS

    Yeah.

  20. JR

    Yeah, how about that one?

  21. DS

    He's... So he's a-

  22. JR

    The tariffs one

  23. DS

    ... working for the administration, and also standing to gain huge if people can sue over the, the tariffs, right?

  24. JR

    Well, explain the whole thing.

  25. DS

    Well-

  26. JR

    Like, do you know how to-

  27. DS

    Do you-

  28. JR

    Do you know the actual details of it?

  29. DS

    No, I don't really know the, the details.

  30. JR

    So essentially he was telling everybody that, you know, "Don't sweat it, the tariffs are golden. We're getting them through. There's gonna be no problems." Is that what it was? But in, and meanwhile, he was shorting the tariffs?

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