The Joe Rogan ExperienceDuncan Trussell on Joe Rogan: How AI slips past every gate
Ghost Murmur can detect heartbeats from distance using quantum sensing; Trussell argues local unaligned LLMs make AI censorship impossible to enforce.
EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,011 words- JRJoe Rogan
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out
- SPSpeaker
The Joe Rogan Experience
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat rock music] All right, we're good. We're good. We had a slight issue, slight technical glitch.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Tech glitch.
- JRJoe Rogan
But we're up. What were we just talking about?
- DTDuncan Trussell
Oh, we were talking about that if you hum a tune-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, right. Right
- DTDuncan Trussell
... that you will get dinged.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you'll get flagged-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Someone will make you leave for that
- JRJoe Rogan
... on YouTube if you just hum a s- a, a sound from a song.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like the beginning bars of a song.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah. You can't... I wonder how far that goes. Like could it get to the point where an AI could hear you humming it in your car or something? Like how far does the protection of music go?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I, it's... You're not generating revenue from your car, right? So the thing is, you're generating revenue from a podcast, and their logic is if you hum... What is that song? The Sunshine of My Love, is that what it is?
- SPSpeaker
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know that song that I always hum to associate with people being high out of their fucking mind.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, it goes, "Eh, eh." You can't say it.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Can't do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
If I did that-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... we would get dinged, which is so crazy. And we were just saying, like, if you quoted a Scarface movie, would Brian De Palma get all the money? If you said, "Say hello to the bad guy," would Brian De Palma get that money?
- DTDuncan Trussell
I don't think so. I think you're allowed to quote stuff, but you... I know that-
- JRJoe Rogan
That is Brian De Palma, right? Scarface? Wasn't it?
- SPSpeaker
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't wanna fuck that up.
- SPSpeaker
I think so.
- DTDuncan Trussell
You know those auditors that go around and film people-
- SPSpeaker
Yeah
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