Andy Stumpf on Joe Rogan: Why SEALs Still Drown in Training

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   Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.

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   The Joe Rogan Experience.

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   Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music] Being a pacifist is the way. Avoid violence at all costs, you know what I mean, Joe?

4. JRJoe Rogan0:15

   Allegedly.

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   [laughs]

6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

   Look at you, dog, you're a fucking author.

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   Just take it easy. I'm not an author until tomorrow, technically. [laughs]

8. JRJoe Rogan0:22

   Oh. [laughs] No, you're an author once it's wr- I can read it, which makes you an author. I have a book in my hand-

9. SPSpeaker0:27

   Yeah

10. JRJoe Rogan0:27

    ... which makes you an author.

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    I tell you what, man, you had more of a, you had more of a hand in that book than you would think.

12. JRJoe Rogan0:34

    Really?

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    Um, every... You know, before we started, I had you sign one of the copies because I'm gonna keep it for myself, and the people's names who associated themself with that, who took a chance on me in supporting me, they have just as much as hands as the monkey who may or may not have been sitting in front of the computer writing out the words very slowly.

14. JRJoe Rogan0:53

    Well, isn't that the case with everything in life, though? I mean-

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    Yeah

16. JRJoe Rogan0:56

    ... it's, it's really who you know and, like, the people that you associate, associate with and what you learn from them, and their examples, with everything. And then there's no individuals that are responsible entirely for their own life.

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    There are individuals, though, that would tell you that they are.

18. JRJoe Rogan1:13

    [laughs] Yeah, but you... Those are the, those are the people that I don't hang out with.

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    Yeah. I can't, I can't suffer being in the presence of somebody who thinks that they had every idea and every right decision was theirs. Because I look at my own life, and one, I can't compete with that because my life is defined by its mistakes and idiotic things I've done. Uh, but two, I just, I don't get it. I'm a, I'm a product of the people who I was raised by, the people I was around, the people still in my life. I mean...

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    100%.

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    Yeah.

22. JRJoe Rogan1:38

    We all are. The... If you don't think that, you're delusional. The, if... You cannot have an exceptional person that's surrounded by dipshits. They, they just won't... Eventually they'll give in to dipshittery. It's contagious.

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    Ne-

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    Negative, negative people-

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    You really got me thinking, though, if that is possible. I'm trying to think of an example. [laughs]

26. JRJoe Rogan1:57

    Yeah, I probably shouldn't have said it's impossible. It could be possible, but it's very highly unlikely. And also-

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    Yeah

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    ... they didn't achieve their full potential if that's the case. They would've been even better-

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    Yeah

30. JRJoe Rogan2:07

    ... if they had been ex- surrounded by exceptional people.

Episode duration: 2:34:09