Action Bronson on Joe Rogan: Why Stacked Ruins Break History

1. 0:02 – 1:56

   Woolly mammoth tooth collectibles and “allowed” ivory craftsmanship

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.

   2. SPSpeaker0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music] [laughs]

   4. ABAction Bronson0:13

      [laughs] That one, that one brought a smile to my face.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Yeah, out of all the weird shit that someone's given me, that's at the top. Well, I got this. This is a wooly mammoth tooth that my friend John gave me.

   6. ABAction Bronson0:24

      I was gonna say. That's fucking ridiculous.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      A wooly mammoth tooth with a wooly mammoth carved into it.

   8. ABAction Bronson0:27

      That's craziness.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:29

      That's crazy, right? That tooth's probably 10,000 years old. No bullshit.

   10. ABAction Bronson0:33

       But the balls to carve into it, too, like-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       I know. I would never. I mean, it's beautiful.

   12. ABAction Bronson0:38

       No, it's gorgeous.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       The guy did it, he nailed it. I mean, it's, it's a beautiful little elephant there. See it right there for me?

   14. ABAction Bronson0:42

       That's fucking unbelievable.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       But I would never carve into one of these things.

   16. ABAction Bronson0:46

       It almost looks like an alligator gar from the side, like a little alligator jaw.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Right. [laughs] It does a little.

   18. ABAction Bronson0:52

       Right?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       The thing about these teeth, though, is they find so many of them that they don't think of them as precious. So you're allowed to do stuff with them. Like, uh, you could buy a knife with a, a wooly mammoth handle. Like this is, this is a piece of wooly mammoth that they make for a gun.

   20. ABAction Bronson1:11

       Oh, that's nuts.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       So you could put that on a 1911. It's a handle made out of woolly, wooly mammoth teeth.

   22. ABAction Bronson1:16

       You just have an, this is an extra handle? Is this this handle?

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       It's the, a pistol.

   24. ABAction Bronson1:21

       Or this handle?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       It's the pistol handle.

   26. ABAction Bronson1:22

       It's the pistol handle.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       Yeah. And this is a piece-

   28. ABAction Bronson1:25

       It would make a good handle for this one, too, like the front one, for fucking-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       Oh, okay. Right

   30. ABAction Bronson1:28

       ... like if you're holding that sick-ass thing.
2. 1:56 – 3:04

   Pool cues, classic style, and the tiny world of “male accessories”

   1. ABAction Bronson1:56

      I used to have my own pool cue.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:58

      Yeah?

   3. ABAction Bronson1:58

      Unscrewed it.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:59

      Yeah.

   5. ABAction Bronson1:59

      I used to come to the fucking pool hall with, unscrew the fucking thing and get nuts with it. Having a pool, like having a pool cue is, you're a different level of human being when you're walking around with that. You're not playing games.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:12

      You're not playing games.

   7. ABAction Bronson2:12

      You're there to play games, but you're not playing.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:16

      It's a very serious thing. It's a cool thing when you show up with your own cue, like in The Hustler.

   9. ABAction Bronson2:21

      That's-

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:21

       The guy shows up with a leather satchel

   11. ABAction Bronson2:22

       One of the coolest guys ever. Come on.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:23

       Yeah.

   13. ABAction Bronson2:23

       That satchel alone.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       Yeah.

   15. ABAction Bronson2:26

       It's, uh, for m- it's male accessories.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:28

       Right.

   17. ABAction Bronson2:29

       I love a good male accessory.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:30

       Right. Like we don't have a lot.

   19. ABAction Bronson2:32

       We have a knife.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:33

       Yeah.

   21. ABAction Bronson2:33

       A knife always looks good on the side.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:35

       Knife.

   23. ABAction Bronson2:35

       A gun.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:36

       A watch.

   25. ABAction Bronson2:36

       Watch.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:38

       Watch is a good male acce- it's like the most acceptable male jewelry.

   27. ABAction Bronson2:41

       For sure.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:42

       Don't you think? Watches, right.

   29. ABAction Bronson2:43

       I don't want no one with a nose ring. I don't wanna pull up with the-

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:45

       Yeah. [laughs]
3. 3:04 – 5:10

   Tattoos, ankle jewelry, and how vacations change your identity

   1. ABAction Bronson3:04

      I had a chain back in the day. It had a little miniature Tasmanian devil piece.

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:10

      [laughs] That was the tattoo everybody in high school got.

   3. ABAction Bronson3:13

      Oh, Taz was the f- I want one now.

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:15

      [laughs] Taz with boxing gloves.

   5. ABAction Bronson3:16

      Oh, for sure. Boxing gloves. It, boxing gloves with the child's name. I have that on my arm.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:20

      Ah. Yeah, my friend Kenny got that. It was his first tattoo when we were in high school. Tasmanian devil with a boxing glove. We were all like, "Sick." [laughs] 'Cause we, 'cause we were like 16. [laughs]

   7. ABAction Bronson3:31

      But Taz was, um, still to this day, one of, like that and barbed wire, if you had barbed wire-

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:36

      Right

   9. ABAction Bronson3:37

      ... and Taz.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:38

       Dudes went so far with barbed wire, they got barbed wire around their ankle, which is-

   11. ABAction Bronson3:42

       That's unacceptable

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:43

       ... a big mistake.

   13. ABAction Bronson3:44

       It was Pamela Anderson with the barbed wire.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:46

       I know.

   15. ABAction Bronson3:46

       Remember that one?

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:47

       She had it on, didn't she have it on her ankle? Or she had it on her arm.

   17. ABAction Bronson3:49

       On the arm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:50

       Yeah.

   19. ABAction Bronson3:50

       In that movie.

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:51

       A lot of dudes had it on the arm. Fairly okay. It's kind of a, a bad decision, but it's okay.

   21. ABAction Bronson3:56

       It's a bad decision. But now the thing-

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:57

       But on the ankle

   23. ABAction Bronson3:57

       ... any type of ankle accessory jewelry other than-

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:02

       Weird

   25. ABAction Bronson4:02

       ... like a, a surveillance. [laughs]

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:04

       [laughs]

   27. ABAction Bronson4:05

       It really, for me, it doesn't work. [laughs]

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:08

       [laughs]

   29. ABAction Bronson4:09

       My ankle's way too Balkan. It's a thick-ass ankle.

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:12

       Right, right, right.
4. 5:10 – 6:58

   Food-first travel: Athens meals, Mexico City obsession, and altitude performance

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:10

      I think the schedule should be around eating.

   2. ABAction Bronson5:12

      Oh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:13

      That's what I believe. That's my, my feeling is like-

   4. ABAction Bronson5:16

      It's been my life

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:16

      ... cool ancient things-

   6. ABAction Bronson5:17

      Oh

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:17

      ... like if you're in a cool place like Athens.

   8. ABAction Bronson5:20

      Oof, oof.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:20

      You know, you definitely gotta go seek some cool ancient shit.

   10. ABAction Bronson5:23

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:23

       But get, get the good grub.

   12. ABAction Bronson5:25

       Speaking my language.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:26

       Now find the, find the spots. Find the spots.

   14. ABAction Bronson5:28

       I was eating some rare scampi right in front of the Pantheon.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:32

       Oh.

   16. ABAction Bronson5:32

       You know, like it, there was a beautiful restaurant known for scampi right there.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:35

       Wow.

   18. ABAction Bronson5:36

       And it was like-

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:37

       That's phenomenal.

   20. ABAction Bronson5:38

       I was just recently in Mexico City at, uh, at Teotihuacan.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:42

       Ooh.

   22. ABAction Bronson5:43

       Ooh, my God.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:44

       I wanna go there.

   24. ABAction Bronson5:45

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:45

       I was in Mexico City only once-

   26. ABAction Bronson5:47

       Sick

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:47

       ... for the UFC, but it was in and out. It was one day, you know, two days.

   28. ABAction Bronson5:50

       I wanna live there. I-

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:51

       Mexico City's a dope spot, man. It's-

   30. ABAction Bronson5:53

       I don't go places where I-
5. 6:58 – 9:35

   Teotihuacán shooting + the rabbit hole of unknown pre-Aztec civilizations

   1. SPSpeaker6:58

      Did you see the shooting that happened yesterday?

   2. JRJoe Rogan7:00

      Where?

   3. SPSpeaker7:01

      At Teotihuacan.

   4. ABAction Bronson7:02

      No.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:02

      What?

   6. SPSpeaker7:02

      Yeah.

   7. ABAction Bronson7:03

      A shooting.

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:04

      Oh, I did see something like a go- it's just a crazy person, right?

   9. ABAction Bronson7:08

      Oh, shit.

   10. SPSpeaker7:08

       Oh, yeah, I believe so. Yeah, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:09

       Yeah, Teotihuacan-

   12. SPSpeaker7:10

       The video looks crazy

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       ... a popular tourist archaeological site outside of Mexico City.

   14. ABAction Bronson7:13

       That's where you're not allowed to go. That's the Sun Temple.

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:16

       You, you're not allowed to walk up there?

   16. ABAction Bronson7:17

       You're not allowed to walk that, no.

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:18

       Like, what they're doing-

   18. ABAction Bronson7:19

       Just to that area, and then you can't go up.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:22

       And so this guy just started shooting people?

   20. SPSpeaker7:24

       Yeah.

   21. ABAction Bronson7:24

       Oh, where you can't go there. He's fucking ele- he's elevated...

   22. SPSpeaker7:27

       Yeah, there's a bunch-

   23. ABAction Bronson7:28

       Yeah, that's the Sun Temple.

   24. SPSpeaker7:28

       He's there with the gun, and there's a bunch of people, like, laying down on the ground that were, like-

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:33

       Oh, Jesus Christ

   26. SPSpeaker7:34

       ... hostages or something. And, like, he's, like, shooting right at them.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:36

       W- so wh-

   28. ABAction Bronson7:37

       This is crazy.

   29. SPSpeaker7:38

       I don't know.

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:38

       He said something to them too.
6. 9:35 – 13:54

   Cities built on cities: archaeology layers, pilgrimages, and engineered awe

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:35

      Well, they're finding that out about a lot of these things

   2. ABAction Bronson9:35

      ... cities on top of cities on top-

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:37

      They build them on old ones.

   4. ABAction Bronson9:40

      I mean, it's just like you tile the floor. You just leave that bullshit, and you just tile right over it.

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:44

      Well, even in, when I was in Italy, we were in, uh, Ravello, and there's this beautiful church up there. You go for a little walk up the hill, there's a beautiful church, old church, like, from the 1800s, but it's built on top of a church that's, like, a thousand years old.

   6. ABAction Bronson9:57

      Same thing in Mexico City.

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:57

      And there's a glass floor.

   8. ABAction Bronson9:59

      Yep.

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:59

      You could see through to the bottom with the original ruins.

   10. ABAction Bronson10:02

       The same thing in Mexico City. We went to-

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:04

       They do that everywhere

   12. ABAction Bronson10:05

       Bro, there was these people making their pilgrimage where they crawl on the floor from fucking hundreds of miles away in Jesus's name just to get to the church.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:13

       Oh, wow.

   14. ABAction Bronson10:14

       You have this... I don't know what that, it's some, some act of, like, some humbling act where they crawl from hundreds of miles away to the church.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:24

       Holy shit.

   16. ABAction Bronson10:24

       And everyone come, I don't, millions of people come to this. It was fucking crazy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:29

       That would be a religious experience.

   18. SPSpeaker10:30

       I didn't wanna go down the-

   19. ABAction Bronson10:31

       It, it truly was. I, like-

   20. SPSpeaker10:33

       Charlie Kirk rabbit hole

   21. ABAction Bronson10:33

       ... I was just sitting there, and we caught sermon, and I was just, I was getting fucking chills. Like, I, just from the way they spoke and the echo, the way that the, the acoustics in this room was.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:43

       Wow.

   23. ABAction Bronson10:44

       It was meant to give you chills.

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:45

       Right.

   25. ABAction Bronson10:45

       They know what they're doing.

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:46

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   27. ABAction Bronson10:46

       They know what they're doing.

   28. SPSpeaker10:47

       I didn't wanna go down the full, like, Charlie Kirk rabbit hole, but I saw this video yesterday where he visited Jerusalem, and they were taking him to this place underground where they mapped it out and used archeology to find out that, like, I believe the spot here where they're at, Jesus, I think, preached or something.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:03

       Huh.

   30. SPSpeaker11:04

       It's, it's all, they found it underground, and they just built the city on top of it, like you were just saying.
7. 13:54 – 20:45

   Ancient seafaring timelines, human evolution uncertainty, and a wild Neanderthal hypothesis

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:54

      Whoever built that, like, how much did they know about the rest of the world? That's what's, what's interesting, 'cause we don't really know. We assume that they were all isolated, but more and more as time goes on, they keep finding evidence of earlier and earlier seafaring people. Like, I think they've pushed people in boats back to 60,000 years now. Let's see if that's true. Put that in Perplexity.

   2. ABAction Bronson14:17

      Uh-huh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:17

      What is the oldest known use of boats?

   4. SPSpeaker14:23

      Uh, also speaking of that, that Noah... They think they found Noah's Ark going around Twitter.

   5. ABAction Bronson14:25

      As long as there's been water, there's probably been something to float on it.

   6. SPSpeaker14:28

      Whoa, what? The Noah's Ark scans?

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:29

      What?

   8. SPSpeaker14:29

      I brought that up before.

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:30

      Oh, Mount Ararat in Turkey?

   10. SPSpeaker14:32

       But yeah, it's been going around Twitter the last couple of days. I think they did some new scans and found some stuff underneath it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:37

       Oh, shit.

   12. SPSpeaker14:38

       Um, let me find it.

   13. JRJoe Rogan14:39

       I wanna see that. But what was the other question? The other question is the oldest boat.

   14. SPSpeaker14:43

       Boat.

   15. JRJoe Rogan14:43

       What do you guess? Take a guess.

   16. ABAction Bronson14:46

       Fucking it's beyond my thought. It's like I, I don't even know a number. Nu- a number doesn't come to mind. Like, as long as there's been water.

   17. JRJoe Rogan14:53

       Right.

   18. ABAction Bronson14:53

       What the fuck does that mean? I don't even know.

   19. JRJoe Rogan14:56

       I wonder how long it took, like, early man-

   20. ABAction Bronson14:59

       And there's trees

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:59

       ... to figure out that trees float, and if you could figure out a tool. Once they figured out tools, they must have started making stuff, right?

   22. ABAction Bronson15:07

       But when we see all these ancient, really, like, laser diagnostic fucking situations-

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:13

       Right

   24. ABAction Bronson15:13

       ... they knew already.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:15

       Yeah.

   26. ABAction Bronson15:15

       They knew.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:16

       That's different. That's different. Like Egypt, right? Um, "Archaic humans were crossing substantial sea channels long before our species Homo sapiens appeared on the record." Whoa.

   28. ABAction Bronson15:26

       Wow.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:26

       So implying intentional crossings as far back as roughly 450,000 years ago.

   30. ABAction Bronson15:34

       When you think about it-
8. 20:45 – 25:50

   Noah’s Ark scans, flood myths, and the burning bush as DMT theory

   1. JRJoe Rogan20:45

      Noah's Ark mystery deepens as a researcher blows lid on strange rock formation in Turkey. So this, this rock formation is on Mount Ararat. That's what it looks like?

   2. SPSpeaker20:56

      This thing here in the middle, yeah, and they said it's the same-

   3. JRJoe Rogan20:58

      Wait a minute, that's not AI?

   4. SPSpeaker21:00

      Nope.

   5. ABAction Bronson21:01

      Is this all LiDAR?

   6. SPSpeaker21:03

      So this is a picture.

   7. JRJoe Rogan21:04

      Bro, that's crazy. That's the actual image?

   8. SPSpeaker21:07

      I'll show you the other ones they have.

   9. JRJoe Rogan21:09

      God, that looks like, that looks like what somebody would send me in a Facebook group chat. [laughs] Where they go, "Honestly-"

   10. ABAction Bronson21:15

       Where they go, "Noah's Ark," I'm like, "Right."

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:16

       "... this shit right here, if it's not AI... If it's AI, it should say it." Right. If it's not AI... God, that looks like a boat.

   12. SPSpeaker21:23

       Let's see. Oh.

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:24

       So look, I'm not a geologist or someone who's a landscape expert, but that's a very unusual feature. It... What are the odds that something looks exactly like a boat?

   14. SPSpeaker21:35

       Um, so then underneath it, they scanned it, and then they're-

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       Oh

   16. SPSpeaker21:38

       ... saying that these potentially are hallways or-

   17. ABAction Bronson21:42

       I mean, that's the shape of a boat

   18. SPSpeaker21:44

       ... ramps or something.

   19. JRJoe Rogan21:44

       That's a fucking boat.

   20. SPSpeaker21:46

       The, the-

   21. JRJoe Rogan21:47

       Oh, so there's structure inside of it?

   22. SPSpeaker21:48

       Well, the biggest issue is that this is, uh, on the side of a mountain.

   23. JRJoe Rogan21:53

       [laughs]

   24. SPSpeaker21:54

       So that's not where the ocean is.

   25. JRJoe Rogan21:56

       Bro, the great, the great flood.

   26. SPSpeaker21:57

       It's 6,500 feet above sea level, it says. So if you're gonna go with the story of the flood, then you'd have to say that we don't know exactly when the flood happened, 'cause this would be petrified wood or something, and I read it takes somewhere between thousands and millions of years to get petrified wood. So we'd have to be on the lower end of the thousands, 'cause it's probably not millions of years, and then tectonic plates would've had to lift it all the way up here to-

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:24

       No, not necessarily

   28. SPSpeaker22:25

       ... do something like that.

   29. JRJoe Rogan22:25

       If the flood receded-

   30. SPSpeaker22:27

       Well, I guess if the flood the entire-
9. 25:50 – 29:35

   AI backlash over a frog image and bigger fears about AI governance

   1. JRJoe Rogan25:50

      My fear is that a lot of chaos is gonna happen, and they're gonna use that as an excuse to have AI run everything, and that's where things get really fucking weird. That's where creativity dissolves, freedom dissolves. You become some little biological time card.

   2. ABAction Bronson26:09

      Bro, the other day, I fucking, I posted a picture of a frog that I AI-generated just because I wasn't able to get the frog to do what the fuck I want it to do in real life.

   3. JRJoe Rogan26:20

      [laughs]

   4. ABAction Bronson26:21

      Like, I want the frog holding frog popsicles. He was being difficult, so I had to fucking use another guy. And I, these, everyone was blasting me like, "Yo, not you. Not you."

   5. JRJoe Rogan26:33

      Not AI.

   6. ABAction Bronson26:33

      "I can't believe you used AI." Like, "Yo, you're..."

   7. JRJoe Rogan26:36

      What?

   8. ABAction Bronson26:36

      People were fucking flipping out on me.

   9. JRJoe Rogan26:38

      Hold on. So people are upset that you're using-

   10. ABAction Bronson26:39

       I generated a picture of a frog

   11. JRJoe Rogan26:42

       ... W- who is mad at you for this?

   12. ABAction Bronson26:44

       Whoever is on my Instagram.

   13. JRJoe Rogan26:46

       Huh.

   14. ABAction Bronson26:46

       And my fans and the people who, who are tr- you know, just hating on AI.

   15. JRJoe Rogan26:52

       So-

   16. ABAction Bronson26:52

       I get, I get the idea of, like, using it in a con- you know, in a conniving way or in a, you know... But it was a picture of a fucking frog. There it is. That's fucking good.

   17. JRJoe Rogan27:08

       That's cool.

   18. ABAction Bronson27:08

       And I said that that was gonna be my album cover, but then people were-

   19. JRJoe Rogan27:13

       Why is that bad?

   20. ABAction Bronson27:14

       ... they were like, "Yo, you're taking away opportunities from other artists." Uh, well, let me just clear this up. I wouldn't have hired you no matter what because I do all my artwork anyway. There was no job to be taken away. So let's just, if that's the argument, you could throw that one out.

   21. JRJoe Rogan27:32

       This is just tools.

   22. ABAction Bronson27:33

       It's good old fun.

   23. JRJoe Rogan27:35

       Listen, I don't think-

   24. ABAction Bronson27:35

       This is Photoshop pretty much.

   25. JRJoe Rogan27:37

       Yeah. Look, it's beautiful.

   26. ABAction Bronson27:39

       Thank you, man.

   27. JRJoe Rogan27:39

       It's very cool looking.

   28. ABAction Bronson27:40

       But then I did-

   29. JRJoe Rogan27:41

       And I get, I get what people are saying.

   30. ABAction Bronson27:43

       I get it too.
10. 29:35 – 35:02

    Training, weight swings, and ‘awkward’ strength tools (mace, clubs, kettlebells)

    1. JRJoe Rogan29:35

       Bro, they've never seen you with the mace

    2. ABAction Bronson29:36

       ... oh, my God. I did it this morning.

    3. JRJoe Rogan29:39

       You can swing that motherfucker, dude. It's very impressive.

    4. ABAction Bronson29:41

       And I-

    5. JRJoe Rogan29:41

       It's a hard thing to do

    6. ABAction Bronson29:42

       ... and I got, I got up to, like, 88 pounds on that bitch-

    7. JRJoe Rogan29:45

       Ooh

    8. ABAction Bronson29:45

       ... which is ridiculous.

    9. JRJoe Rogan29:46

       That's a lot. I started doing this new kettlebell exercise. You do, like, an eight in the air-

    10. ABAction Bronson29:51

        Mm-hmm

    11. JRJoe Rogan29:52

        ... with a kettlebell, where you start it like this, and you go all the way up and down like that-

    12. ABAction Bronson29:57

        Oh, yeah. That's crazy

    13. JRJoe Rogan29:58

        ... like bending at the-

    14. ABAction Bronson29:58

        Mm-hmm

    15. JRJoe Rogan29:59

        ... and over around your head. Woo.

    16. ABAction Bronson30:02

        Serious deal.

    17. JRJoe Rogan30:03

        Oh, my God, your, your core. You'll, you don't realize, like, how weak that shit is in those weird movements-

    18. ABAction Bronson30:09

        Mm-hmm

    19. JRJoe Rogan30:09

        ... until you try something like that.

    20. ABAction Bronson30:10

        That's why the kettlebells are the best things. Kettlebells, the, the, the clubs-

    21. JRJoe Rogan30:14

        Mm-hmm

    22. ABAction Bronson30:15

        ... the mace.

    23. JRJoe Rogan30:16

        Awkward stuff.

    24. ABAction Bronson30:16

        Awkward. I love all that stuff, all the sandbag work.

    25. JRJoe Rogan30:19

        Mm-hmm.

    26. ABAction Bronson30:19

        I'm still doing that every day. Since I was here last, I know it doesn't seem it, but I've lost, like, 20 pounds.

    27. JRJoe Rogan30:25

        Congratulations.

    28. ABAction Bronson30:26

        Well, I got up to 300 again.

    29. JRJoe Rogan30:27

        Damn, dog.

    30. ABAction Bronson30:28

        And now I'm back down to 265. I know you can't see it, but I'm kinda jacked.
11. 35:02 – 45:10

    Cigarettes in hospitals, overmedication debates, and fame as a mental trap

    1. JRJoe Rogan35:02

       Wow. Isn't it crazy how doctors used to recommend cigarettes? You used to be able to buy cigarettes at a hospital.

    2. ABAction Bronson35:09

       Oh, yeah. I've purchased them at hospitals with the thing.

    3. JRJoe Rogan35:12

       In bed, when the guy's in bed.

    4. ABAction Bronson35:13

       Oh, you could buy them in, like they would come around-

    5. JRJoe Rogan35:15

       I saw ... Well, I think it-

    6. ABAction Bronson35:16

       Like a six-year-old kid would come around with the thing.

    7. JRJoe Rogan35:18

       Like a lady would come by with, like, a box of different kinds of cigarettes in it, and the guy was, like, picking out cigarettes that he could have while he's in his hospital bed.

    8. ABAction Bronson35:25

       Damn. Those were the days.

    9. JRJoe Rogan35:26

       See if you can find one of the pictures.

    10. ABAction Bronson35:27

        Those were the days.

    11. JRJoe Rogan35:28

        [laughs]

    12. ABAction Bronson35:28

        I remember the pull machine was always my favorite when I got sent to the store to go do this-

    13. JRJoe Rogan35:32

        Right

    14. ABAction Bronson35:32

        ... do that.

    15. JRJoe Rogan35:34

        Yeah, look at this.

    16. ABAction Bronson35:35

        Oh, wow.

    17. JRJoe Rogan35:35

        This has to be an ad, right?

    18. SPSpeaker35:37

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan35:38

        Is it an ad?

    20. SPSpeaker35:38

        Gotta be.

    21. ABAction Bronson35:39

        That's the golden days-

    22. JRJoe Rogan35:39

        Or maybe it's a newspaper photograph or something like that.

    23. ABAction Bronson35:42

        What is that, Pall Mall?

    24. SPSpeaker35:44

        There's another one, different guy.

    25. JRJoe Rogan35:46

        Another ... 1950s. "Cigarettes were marketed as being good for you." Look at it. The nurse is lighting this guy's cigarette happily.

    26. ABAction Bronson35:53

        That's crazy. Well, he doesn't look sick. His hair is done nicely, like it's parted.

    27. JRJoe Rogan35:56

        So when did, when did people in Ame- we looked up this, who figured out the first cigarette, didn't we?

    28. SPSpeaker36:00

        Is it the same guy, different nurse?

    29. JRJoe Rogan36:03

        Oh, this is all bullshit.

    30. SPSpeaker36:04

        I don't know.
12. 45:10 – 55:48

    New York governance: smoking bans, taxes, garbage unions, rats, and urban “ecosystems”

    1. SPSpeaker45:10

       Um, we were talking about smoking. This, I saw this today, that UK has voted to ban anyone born after 2008 to b-be banned from smoking.

    2. JRJoe Rogan45:19

       Well-

    3. SPSpeaker45:20

       It hasn't passed. It has to-- it's-

    4. JRJoe Rogan45:21

       Wait a minute. Wait a minute

    5. SPSpeaker45:23

       ... it's on the, it's on the screen

    6. JRJoe Rogan45:24

       Wait a minute. I'm gonna light up a cigar. Fuck them.

    7. ABAction Bronson45:26

       [laughs]

    8. SPSpeaker45:26

       It says that-

    9. ABAction Bronson45:27

       This pisses me off

    10. SPSpeaker45:27

        Yeah.

    11. ABAction Bronson45:28

        That's a crazy one.

    12. SPSpeaker45:29

        I thought it was kind of fake when I saw it, but I, I, I looked it up. It's on, it's, there's articles about it. It's a draft law, they say, which doesn't mean it's an actual law yet, I think.

    13. JRJoe Rogan45:38

        I'm opening up a fresh box for them. Fuck you. That's crazy. But that's just-- we were talking about this yesterday.

    14. ABAction Bronson45:46

        They love, they love having their fucking, their thumb on you.

    15. JRJoe Rogan45:49

        It's government. It's like when they expand government, they gotta give government something to do. So what do they do? They come up with more rules and regulations, and they come up with more people to enforce those rules and regulations, even if they don't make any sense.

    16. ABAction Bronson46:01

        More bills. Pass this, pass that. I got a fucking ... Everyone has an idea.

    17. JRJoe Rogan46:05

        We just-

    18. ABAction Bronson46:05

        Every new politician has their ideas

    19. JRJoe Rogan46:07

        And they all wanna fucking control you. That's what they wanna do. More than anything, they wanna control you. That's their favorite sport. Their favorite sport is telling you what to do.

    20. ABAction Bronson46:16

        I just had, I had a beautiful dinner with, uh, with our mayor of New York, Mamdani.

    21. JRJoe Rogan46:20

        How is he? Do you like him?

    22. ABAction Bronson46:22

        He's, he's 34 years old, bro.

    23. JRJoe Rogan46:24

        I know.

    24. ABAction Bronson46:24

        He's-- I've, I've never thought that I'd be sitting at a table with a mayor who's younger than me and knows about fucking rap and like-

    25. JRJoe Rogan46:31

        Didn't he rap for a while?

    26. ABAction Bronson46:33

        I don't acknowledge that. [laughs]

    27. JRJoe Rogan46:36

        [laughs] That's hilarious.

    28. ABAction Bronson46:39

        No, but he's, you know, he's, he's a very nice guy, you know? We had a nice dinner. I, I didn't speak politic. I'm not really one of those guys. We just talked shit.

    29. JRJoe Rogan46:47

        Oh, okay.

    30. ABAction Bronson46:47

        Yeah. But what the fuck do I know?
13. 55:48 – 1:01:00

    Ticks, Lyme disease, alpha-gal syndrome, and outdoors reality checks

    1. ABAction Bronson55:48

       I know, you're right. There's, there's a real, like, uh, there's a, there's a generous amount of species up where I'm at, and I really enjoy them recently. You can't be upset at them because if the area was unhealthy, they wouldn't be there.

    2. JRJoe Rogan56:01

       Well, you're in Upstate?

    3. ABAction Bronson56:02

       Yeah.

    4. JRJoe Rogan56:03

       Upstate's beautiful, but, um, check yourself for ticks.

    5. ABAction Bronson56:06

       Oh, I do all the time.

    6. JRJoe Rogan56:08

       All the time.

    7. ABAction Bronson56:08

       I do.

    8. JRJoe Rogan56:08

       All the time. Upstate's got a lot of Lyme.

    9. ABAction Bronson56:09

       My boy got, he, he got, he got bit by a tick recently.

    10. JRJoe Rogan56:12

        Yeah?

    11. ABAction Bronson56:12

        He caught it three days later. He already had it, but he's good now.

    12. JRJoe Rogan56:16

        Did he go and immediately get the antibiotics?

    13. ABAction Bronson56:18

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan56:18

        That's what you gotta do. When you get that Lyme disease, you gotta get it quick.

    15. ABAction Bronson56:21

        Where do you think they usually capture you? Like, around the crevasses?

    16. JRJoe Rogan56:25

        Yeah, like your legs, your ankles.

    17. ABAction Bronson56:26

        Oh, that's fine.

    18. JRJoe Rogan56:27

        Or where they climb up on your pants.

    19. ABAction Bronson56:28

        But as long as they don't go up in the fucking Netherlands-

    20. JRJoe Rogan56:30

        The junk?

    21. ABAction Bronson56:30

        Yeah, the Nether region.

    22. JRJoe Rogan56:31

        Right, that would suck. But I think it's a systemic issue more than it is the initial bite. The bite, though, uh, to know that if you got Lyme disease, couple days after the infection, it starts getting like a bullseye around it. And that to, to a lot of people is, uh, that's the, the big sign that you've got Lyme disease.

    23. ABAction Bronson56:49

        Mm.

    24. JRJoe Rogan56:49

        But sometimes when they get to the doctor, that circle's gone, and the doctor doesn't believe them. I've had this happen to a friend of mine, who's a very smart guy, and him and his son both got Lyme disease, and he couldn't get the fucking doctor to believe that it was Lyme disease until his kid started getting, um, what's that mouth thing?

    25. ABAction Bronson57:07

        Gu-

    26. JRJoe Rogan57:07

        Guillain-Barré. How do you say that?

    27. SPSpeaker57:09

        Guillain-Barré syndrome.

    28. JRJoe Rogan57:10

        Is that what you say?

    29. ABAction Bronson57:11

        That one where it's like-

    30. JRJoe Rogan57:11

        Guillain? You say Gu- Guillain?
14. 1:01:00 – 1:02:42

    Pasta obsession, chef shoutouts, and blending food culture with fight culture

    1. ABAction Bronson1:01:00

       Evan Funke pasta, right?

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Oh, yeah.

    3. ABAction Bronson1:01:02

       I know you like a good Evan Funke.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

       That dude, that dude can cook.

    5. ABAction Bronson1:01:05

       Yeah. I had him, I had him on my show early on, like, before all his, like, his, his success and just kicked it off. I loved his ... I, he's a fucking trip.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       He's the man, and he is-

    7. ABAction Bronson1:01:15

       When you care like that

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

       ... the aficionado. Yeah. Yeah.

    9. ABAction Bronson1:01:17

       When you like ... There's, there's another guy, Stephane S- Secci in New York. Oh my God, Stephane Secci is another sicko.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

        Mm.

    11. ABAction Bronson1:01:24

        Make amazing, amatorano. You know, it's all about the wooden dowel. That's how they make the pasta. It's all old style.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:32

        Yep. Yep.

    13. ABAction Bronson1:01:33

        Nothing extruded. All with the thing.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:37

        Yeah.

    15. ABAction Bronson1:01:37

        With the amatorano.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

        That's what I'm talking aboutYeah. Evan's places, you could watch them make the pasta.

    17. ABAction Bronson1:01:42

        Psh.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:43

        You know, like Mot- he's got Motherwolf, he's got Funk. Is it Funky or Funk? How do you s- how do you pronounce his last name?

    19. ABAction Bronson1:01:48

        I have no idea. I call him Funk.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:49

        There's a C.

    21. ABAction Bronson1:01:49

        It's like Terry Funk.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:50

        Right. Probably Funk.

    23. ABAction Bronson1:01:52

        You know?

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:52

        The young man-

    25. ABAction Bronson1:01:52

        I thought he was Terry Funk's cousin.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:54

        Are they making tortellini here?

    27. ABAction Bronson1:01:56

        No, that's-

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:56

        Ooh

    29. ABAction Bronson1:01:56

        ... that's, that's, that's Stefano.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:58

        Oh my God, look how good that looks.
15. 1:02:42 – 1:52:57

    UFC deep dive: knee injuries, champion composure, camps, and heavyweight GOAT debates

    1. ABAction Bronson1:02:42

       Had Devin Haney making pa- Bro, Jiri, bro.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:02:47

       I know.

    3. ABAction Bronson1:02:48

       Holy fucking shit.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:02:49

       That was crazy. Crazy.

    5. ABAction Bronson1:02:51

       What an animal.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:02:53

       Well, I mean-

    7. ABAction Bronson1:02:54

       How ridiculous. That was so... It's like-

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:02:55

       It's c- you kind of gotta look at it two ways

    9. ABAction Bronson1:02:58

       ... how sore it happened, right? You're like, "Oh, shit, yeah."

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:03:00

        You gotta look at it two ways. One, you gotta look at it from Jiri's perspective. Like, he had it there, the fight was over, the guy was hurt, and it... But you also look at it from Karlos's perspective. Karlos Ulberg is hurt. He can't move his right leg. They're probably gonna stop it in between rounds. And Jiri i- he can't move, so Jiri's just potshotting him, and he's kicking his one good leg.

    11. ABAction Bronson1:03:24

        With the front leg.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:03:24

        He's kicking his one good leg-

    13. ABAction Bronson1:03:25

        Yep

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:03:25

        ... and then boom, he clips him with a left hook.

    15. ABAction Bronson1:03:28

        I mean, with the, with the one punch that he's known for.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:03:31

        Not just that.

    17. ABAction Bronson1:03:31

        The step back hook.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:03:32

        The one punch that you can throw if your right leg is hurt.

    19. ABAction Bronson1:03:36

        [laughs]

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:03:36

        W- a check hook.

    21. ABAction Bronson1:03:37

        Crazy.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:03:38

        'Cause when you p- the, the check hook is one of the... Like, Alexander Vol- Volkanovski actually did a really good breakdown of this on YouTube. But what he was talking about is with a check hook, you put all the weight on the front leg a lot, because as the person's coming, a lot of the weight as you-

    23. ABAction Bronson1:03:53

        The front leg, mm. Mm

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:03:53

        ... uncork the punch is on that front leg.

    25. ABAction Bronson1:03:55

        Mm.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:03:55

        And Ulberg's, that's a snake. [mimics punching] Like, the way he throws that left hook-

    27. ABAction Bronson1:04:00

        It was crazy

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:04:00

        ... is so fast.

    29. ABAction Bronson1:04:00

        It was perfect.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:04:01

        And he, it was the perfect punch.
16. 1:52:57 – 1:58:34

    Comedy pathways, Vice/History projects, and the ‘Ancient Aliens’ origin story

    1. ABAction Bronson1:52:57

       Can I ask you something, honestly?

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:52:59

       No.

    3. ABAction Bronson1:52:59

       All right. [laughs]

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:53:04

       [laughs] Okay.

    5. ABAction Bronson1:53:04

       The comics of today, do you find them ... Be, I, is this because we've aged a little bit-

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:53:10

       Uh-huh

    7. ABAction Bronson1:53:10

       ... and we find different things ... Like do you find them as funny as you found people that you looked up to, like your elders?

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:53:17

       [sighs]

    9. ABAction Bronson1:53:17

       Do you find these younger guys funny? Like can you vibe with it?

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:53:20

        Yeah, I definitely can vibe with it. You know, as far as like-

    11. ABAction Bronson1:53:24

        Do they make you cackle the way-

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:53:25

        Yeah. Oh, for sure

    13. ABAction Bronson1:53:25

        ... these other fucking guys did, yeah?

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:53:26

        For sure. It depends on who you're watching, for sure.

    15. ABAction Bronson1:53:28

        You know who I like? I like Stavi.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:53:30

        Oh, yeah. Stavi's hilarious.

    17. ABAction Bronson1:53:32

        Stav- Stavros fucking-

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:53:33

        Stavros is hilarious.

    19. ABAction Bronson1:53:34

        Bro-

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:53:34

        There's a, there's more-

    21. ABAction Bronson1:53:35

        ... that fucking kid is funny, man

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:53:36

        ... funny comics now, I think, than ever.

    23. ABAction Bronson1:53:37

        Really?

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:53:38

        Yeah, I think so. Yeah. It's a really good time for like up and coming people, new people. There's like a lot of like excitement about comedy, you know? And then there's Kill Tony, which is like this awesome platform for them. So there's so many people that are getting-

    25. ABAction Bronson1:53:50

        Were you doing that last night?

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:53:52

        No, I wasn't there last night.

    27. ABAction Bronson1:53:52

        Oh, 'cause I drove by the, by the, by the mothership and it was-

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:53:55

        It was there

    29. ABAction Bronson1:53:55

        ... fucking cranking.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:53:57

        Yeah.
17. 1:58:34 – 2:24:27

    Overlanding and apocalypse vehicles: Sequoia builds, Land Cruisers, and rally dreams

    1. ABAction Bronson1:58:34

       Like I said, I love gardening. I love overlanding now. I love... I wanna take my-

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:58:38

       You go overlanding?

    3. ABAction Bronson1:58:39

       Bro, I wanna take my truck everywhere now. I wanna just-

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:58:41

       What kind of truck you got?

    5. ABAction Bronson1:58:41

       I got a Sequoia.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:58:43

       Ooh.

    7. ABAction Bronson1:58:43

       Brand new, 26.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:58:44

       Good move.

    9. ABAction Bronson1:58:44

       No, I... It was the best purchase I've ever made in my life.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:58:47

        They never break.

    11. ABAction Bronson1:58:48

        They never break, and New York was so fucking heavy duty this, I, I was, like, in war mode. There was nothing stopping me.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:58:55

        Right. Four-wheel drive. Toyotas.

    13. ABAction Bronson1:58:57

        800-wheel drive, that car got.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:58:59

        [laughs]

    15. ABAction Bronson1:58:59

        It got power like you can't believe. It's perfect.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:59:02

        Toyotas are hard to go wrong.

    17. ABAction Bronson1:59:03

        I love Toyota.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:59:04

        Hard to go wrong with a Toyota.

    19. ABAction Bronson1:59:05

        I love Toyota. I had Jeeps for a while, but I started, my mother had the '83 Toyota Celica.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:59:10

        Mm.

    21. ABAction Bronson1:59:11

        That was our first car. We called it Brownie. It got us everywhere. Then we made the change to the '94 Jeep Grand Cherokee forest green.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:59:19

        [laughs]

    23. ABAction Bronson1:59:19

        We had that for a long time until we got the Hyundai Sonata that I got stolen by accident. You know, it was the morning before... No, it was the night before the Brett, the Brett Favre Jet experiment that was gonna happen. You know, he fi- he went to the Jets. I went to the store in my underwear. That, I always do, and up the block from my house. Bought a vanilla Dutch and a Set for Life, and two fucking kids jumped in the car and just dipped.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:59:45

        Oh, no.

    25. ABAction Bronson1:59:46

        So-

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:59:47

        And you were in your underwear?

    27. ABAction Bronson1:59:48

        I was in my underwear. I had to fucking, I had to make the police report in underwear.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:59:51

        Oh, my God.

    29. ABAction Bronson1:59:51

        They're like, "Why are you in underwear?" First off, that was the first question.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:59:54

        That's a good question.

Episode duration: 2:34:24