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Gillis & Normand on Joe Rogan: How Porn Language Outs a Hoax

The crew flags a JPMorgan harassment suit as fiction after reading 'cannons'; Ari Shaffir calls that kind of phrasing the surest tell of a fabricated complaint.

Joe RoganhostShane GillisguestMark NormandguestAri Shaffirguest
May 1, 20263h 17mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:020:45

    Protect Our Parks returns: running jokes, drinking, and repeating the formula

    1. JR

      Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.

    2. JR

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music]

    4. SP

      Wow.

    5. SG

      Let's go.

    6. SP

      Wow.

    7. SG

      We're back, boys.

    8. SP

      Oh, we're back.

    9. SG

      We're back.

    10. SP

      We are back.

    11. SG

      We're Comedy Oasis.

    12. SP

      That's right. [laughs]

    13. SG

      What's the story, morning glory?

    14. SP

      [laughs]

    15. SG

      It's been almost a year.

    16. SP

      Wow, it's flying by. What are we, 12 now? Is this the 12th episode?

    17. SG

      I don't know. I think we're way-

    18. SP

      Or 16 maybe?

    19. SG

      Yeah.

    20. SP

      What? Damn, that's a lot of drinking.

    21. SG

      How many times have we played Free B- Free Bird?

    22. SP

      Oh, we're playing it again.

    23. SG

      [laughs]

    24. SP

      We're playing it.

    25. SG

      Over 75%.

    26. SP

      We're gonna go with the exact same episode we always do.

    27. SG

      [laughs]

    28. SP

      Yeah, we're gonna talk, we're gonna talk about coming out of the closet.

    29. SG

      [laughs]

    30. SP

      Play Metallica.

  2. 0:453:32

    The “cannons” lawsuit: smutty harassment claims and why it sounded fake

    1. SG

      So it turns out that that lady, that, that was a scam. That was fake. The lady who, uh-

    2. SP

      What?

    3. SG

      ... forced the guy to fuck her. It... Was it JP Morgan?

    4. SP

      What?

    5. SG

      Yeah.

    6. SP

      Jesus.

    7. SG

      Wasn't real.

    8. SP

      She was hot.

    9. SG

      Yeah, I know.

    10. SP

      Was that in the last one we did?

    11. SG

      Jamie said-

    12. SP

      No, no

    13. SG

      ... it's fake, right?

    14. SP

      Oh.

    15. SG

      It's fake?

    16. MN

      Yeah, the news is going around that it's, like, there was, like, a... The lawsuit is not accurate apparently. It's, like, a retaliatory lawsuit.

    17. SG

      So he just claimed that she said all those things-

    18. SP

      Oh

    19. SG

      ... and she made him fuck her.

    20. SP

      Damn.

    21. SG

      What a pussy.

    22. SP

      He's... Wait, is he an Indian guy?

    23. SG

      I believe so.

    24. SP

      Yeah, gross.

    25. SG

      It, it does read like an Indian guy, now that I'm thinking about it.

    26. SP

      Like a scam?

    27. SG

      Like the horniest guy ever. [laughs]

    28. SP

      [laughs]

    29. MN

      [laughs]

    30. SG

      Just coming up with the hottest scene.

  3. 3:327:16

    Reporter affairs, RFK texts, and “romantic” messages that sound like literature

    1. MN

      [laughs] There's been a string of middle, uh, middle-aged whores going around lately. Have you noticed that?

    2. SP

      Love it. It's back.

    3. MN

      It's back. Like, the-

    4. SP

      It's back

    5. MN

      ... the reporter chick who's been banging the football coach. Uh, Kristi Noem was cheating on that guy with the tits.

    6. SG

      Well, that guy with the tits was fucking-

    7. SP

      God, those tits rocks.

    8. SG

      That was crazy

    9. SP

      ... those are cannons.

    10. SG

      Yeah.

    11. MN

      Yeah.

    12. SP

      The chick who wrote the RFK article that had a deeply emotional relationship with him.

    13. MN

      Oh, really?

    14. SP

      Yeah. Then, and then there was a-

    15. SG

      But it was just texting

    16. SP

      ... that was a second one. It was crazy. Then there was a second one she had like that. She, she likes to get to know her subjects.

    17. SG

      The texts-

    18. SP

      Bro

    19. SG

      ... the texts were wild, though.

    20. SP

      Deeply emotional.

    21. MN

      Really? Pull 'em up.

    22. SG

      Ba- both back and forth?

    23. SP

      Uh, his-

    24. SG

      His version was wild?

    25. SP

      I think... Wait, this is a while ago, right?

    26. SG

      Yeah, it was a couple years ago.

    27. SP

      Yeah, it was something like, "Let my river flow into your..."

    28. MN

      Ooh.

    29. SP

      It was, it was odd.

    30. MN

      It's like a Dave Matthews song.

  4. 7:1615:42

    Trump assassination attempt talk: security failures, conspiracies, and the time-traveler tweet

    1. SG

      Well, Trump almost got a shot the other day.

    2. SG

      Isn't that crazy?

    3. AS

      What happened?

    4. SG

      Crazy.

    5. SG

      That's the third assassination attempt on that dude.

    6. AS

      The fucking guy run, ran through- [laughs]

    7. SG

      You didn't see this?

    8. AS

      I- so Bobby Kahn mentioned it in passing.

    9. SG

      You didn't know about the assassination attempt?

    10. AS

      Not really.

    11. SG

      It was at the White House Press Correspondents Dinner.

    12. SG

      Where Reagan got shot.

    13. AS

      With, was it Michelle Wolf?

    14. SG

      He got shot at that.

    15. SG

      Same hotel.

    16. AS

      Oh, really?

    17. SG

      Oh, wow. That hotel.

    18. SG

      So that must've been, Tripadvisor must be rough on that one. [laughs]

    19. AS

      At the Correspondents Dinner. Did, was there a comedian there?

    20. SG

      No, it was-

    21. SG

      Oz the Mentalist

    22. SG

      ... it was Bo the Mentalist, yeah.

    23. SG

      Oz the Mentalist was the host.

    24. SG

      You'd think he would've saw it coming.

    25. SG

      You'd think.

    26. SG

      Ah!

    27. AS

      He probably kept his mouth shut. He's like, "I think we're gonna go attack two more Arab countries."

    28. SG

      [laughs]

    29. SG

      You know what's hilarious? Metzger goes, "Did you see the fake assassination attempt?"

    30. SG

      [laughs]

  5. 15:4217:40

    Hinckley’s music, file-dump cynicism, and MKUltra’s darkest proven stories

    1. SP

      They're gonna release some K Ultra files this week, I think.

    2. SG

      Yeah, I bet.

    3. SP

      Are they?

    4. SP

      I mean-

    5. SG

      I bet.

    6. AS

      Yeah, right

    7. SP

      ... UFO files.

    8. SG

      They were supposed to release UFO files.

    9. AS

      A lot of black lines coming in that one.

    10. SP

      Yeah.

    11. SG

      Yeah, whatever happened to the fucking UFO files? What, did they-

    12. AS

      Did they do Kennedy yet? Is Kennedy out?

    13. SG

      No.

    14. AS

      What? He-

    15. SP

      What, JFK?

    16. AS

      Yeah.

    17. SG

      Yeah.

    18. AS

      Turns out there was-

    19. SG

      Some stuff in there that we couldn't see.

    20. AS

      Yeah.

    21. SP

      CIA.

    22. AS

      Yep. Maybe some other ones.

    23. SG

      Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna launches house hearings on MKUltra next month. I-

    24. SP

      What is that, a gang?

    25. SG

      No. [laughs]

    26. AS

      I did see MKUltra.

    27. SG

      What's MKUltra? You don't know what that is?

    28. SP

      No.

    29. SG

      That's the mind control experiments that the CIA did in the 1960s, '70s.

    30. AS

      On just people going to hookers.

  6. 17:4028:25

    Legal prostitution, handjob logistics, and what a ‘free market’ would do to dating

    1. SG

      How many marriages would completely dissolve if prostitution was totally legal?

    2. SP

      Uh...

    3. AS

      It'd be a lot easier to do.

    4. SP

      Are they talking? That's the thing.

    5. SG

      Are the p- the hookers talking?

    6. SP

      Yeah.

    7. AS

      No, but guys are bad at covering up.

    8. SG

      Different ones. It's like Uber ratings, you know?

    9. SP

      Oh, that would be bad.

    10. SG

      You know what I'm saying? Like, some Uber drivers, they won't shut the fuck up. They wanna play music.

    11. SP

      I would never wanna see my passenger score.

    12. SP

      Yeah.

    13. AS

      [laughs]

    14. SP

      I don't want an XL either.

    15. SG

      Oh.

    16. SP

      [laughs]

    17. SG

      Fuck. Oh.

    18. AS

      From prostitutes?

    19. SG

      Yeah.

    20. SP

      That's bad.

    21. SG

      You know, but I mean, if they, if they made prostitution completely legal-

    22. AS

      Yeah

    23. SG

      ... and then they had scores, do you not think gals would do it? I think they would. I think there'd be plenty of gals that would sign up.

    24. AS

      Ratings? Yeah.

    25. SG

      Plenty of girls.

    26. SP

      But they're doing it now.

    27. SG

      If prostitution was open and honest-

    28. AS

      They're doing it now, and it's illegal

    29. SG

      ... how so? Oh, yeah, they are. There's some online form.

    30. AS

      So of course if you took down the barriers-

  7. 28:2537:10

    Rock music’s decline and psychedelic concert stories (Oasis, Dead, Roger Waters)

    1. SG

      Bro, that fucking concert in Moscow.

    2. AS

      For who? The Bell Tolls? 100-

    3. SG

      Yeah, it's the best ever

    4. AS

      ... thousand people.

    5. SG

      That is the greatest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life.

    6. AS

      We're gonna watch it later again.

    7. MN

      Yeah, it'll do it.

    8. AS

      We'll watch it again.

    9. SG

      Fuck yeah. Norman, don't be scared of the repeating.

    10. MN

      It's gonna be a loop of, of that shit.

    11. SG

      Fine. That's fine.

    12. MN

      Fine.

    13. SG

      It's the sickest shit that ever happened.

    14. MN

      People haven't listened to this song in a year.

    15. SG

      It's the sickest shit. [laughs]

    16. AS

      It's a yearly reminder that, like, oh, this is sick.

    17. SG

      We're gonna close out with a live Free Bird from '77.

    18. MN

      Oh.

    19. SG

      Fuck you. [laughs]

    20. MN

      [laughs]

    21. AS

      [laughs]

    22. SG

      Could you get me a beer? Here it is. Look at this.

    23. MN

      Oh, God.

    24. SG

      We're doing it again.

    25. MN

      Bro, come on.

    26. SG

      Jamie, why'd you do that?

    27. MN

      Deja Jew.

    28. SG

      Come on.

    29. MN

      Save the music for later.

    30. AS

      It's just slow.

  8. 37:1049:52

    Brock Lesnar’s genetics rabbit hole and the Jackass pain Olympics

    1. SG

      "You animals."

    2. SG

      ThisBro

    3. JR

      No, wait till you see it

    4. SG

      ... she's a fucking-

    5. JR

      That thing?

    6. AS

      No

    7. SG

      ... athlete

    8. JR

      Oh, shot put. That's her

    9. SG

      She throws that iron ball

    10. AS

      [laughs]

    11. JR

      Basketball

    12. AS

      What did you think? [laughs] He thought it was shooting a gun. No

    13. SG

      Bro, she's-

    14. JR

      Skeet shoot

    15. AS

      But she looks a lot like him

    16. SG

      ... she's a fucking-

    17. JR

      Oh!

    18. SG

      You gotta see her

    19. AS

      They're related. They're definitely related

    20. JR

      God

    21. SG

      Watch her-

    22. AS

      [laughs]

    23. JR

      Yeah

    24. SG

      ... 100%. Look at those genes

    25. JR

      Or that was Hulk Hogan

    26. SG

      But watch the video. So go to, get to a-

    27. AS

      Jesus

    28. SG

      ... see if you can find a video of her throwing it

    29. AS

      I would not talk shit, Mark. Mark's talking shit

    30. JR

      So she's a beautiful, sturdy lady, woman

  9. 49:5255:44

    Streamers provoking strangers, viral violence, and the ‘looksmaxing’ madness

    1. SG

      Yeah. There's this one with, uh, Tiki. Tiki fought for the UFC. He's like a top level trainer, manages fighters. And this, uh, streamer kid is in his face telling him he's gonna fuck him up. And Ti- Tiki's like, "Oh, really?" And he's like, "Yeah, I'll fuck you up for sure." And then he, like, moves too close to him, and T- Tiki just cracks him

    2. SG

      Is that the elbow?

    3. SG

      No, I think he punched him.

    4. AS

      Oh, okay

    5. SG

      I don't know if he elbowed him or punch. It's so hard to tell 'cause it happened so fast

    6. AS

      Mm-hmm

    7. SG

      But it's like the dude's in his fa- and this is a dude that... This guy, watch this

    8. SG

      Oh, yeah

    9. SG

      And he's got a drink in his handYeah, it's the elbow

    10. JR

      Damn

    11. SG

      Is it an elbow? Slow that down a little bit

    12. JR

      That was right on the jaw

    13. SG

      Let's... It either is a punch or an elbow. It's hard to say, 'cause it happened so fast.

    14. JR

      Ooh

    15. SG

      Yeah, it's an elbow. Nice elbow

    16. AS

      He dropped the drink. What did he say to him?

    17. SG

      Nice elbow

    18. AS

      To get him to-

    19. JR

      You sure that was an elbow?

    20. SG

      He said he was gonna-

    21. JR

      Oh, yeah

    22. SG

      ... fuck him up

    23. JR

      Wow

    24. SG

      He said he's gonna slap him. "I'll slap the shit outta you." Something like that

    25. JR

      Now-

    26. SG

      But-

    27. JR

      ... is, is that just cause?

    28. SG

      ... that is the r- yeah, that is the wrong guy to fuck with

    29. JR

      Right

    30. SG

      Like, Tiki's really good

  10. 55:441:00:42

    White House/Oval Office stories and the surveillance-state creep (FISA, car AI, Signal)

    1. JR

      Joe Rogan's back Yeah

    2. SG

      I'm back. Eight months off the sauce

    3. JR

      Wow

    4. SG

      Moder- moderation is what he-

    5. AS

      He went on a, he went on a-

    6. SG

      Moderation is the key

    7. AS

      He went on a drinking-

    8. SG

      Now that I'm back in Austin, I'm-

    9. AS

      ... a drinking, uh, withdrawal until Trump said you could do mushrooms as well. And then he goes, "Okay, fine. Fine, I'll drink."

    10. SG

      [laughs]

    11. JR

      What was that like, beating the oval off?

    12. SG

      Pretty fucking strange. The whole thing was strange. How about sending him a text message explaining everything to him, and him saying, "Let's do it"?

    13. AS

      Wow

    14. JR

      Whoa

    15. SG

      Dude, let's do it, and then the next day he sees me-

    16. AS

      I think that's his problem. He keeps saying, "Yeah, let's do it"

    17. SG

      [laughs]

    18. JR

      [laughs]

    19. AS

      He's getting texts from BB, he goes, "Yeah, fuck it"

    20. JR

      Yeah [laughs]

    21. SG

      It always works out for me

    22. AS

      Shut down the street. Who gives a fuck?

    23. SG

      Yeah. He, he showed up at the, uh, UFC event. He shakes my hand. He goes, "It's done"And then a week later we were in the White House with all the vets

    24. JR

      Damn.

    25. SG

      All those vets that had taken ibogaine and saved their life.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. AS

      You should have had... Okay, it's a missed opportunity. You should have had all those vets and then a couple, like, dreadlocked white guys who are also like, "This is gonna help me a lot too." [laughs]

    28. SG

      "This is gonna fucking rule."

    29. JR

      [laughs]

    30. SG

      I should've had Duncan.

  11. 1:00:421:13:41

    Epstein note rumors, prison muscle cellmates, and retaliation politics (Comey, ICE/NICE)

    1. JR

      Here's a fun story today.

    2. AS

      What, that guy? He's not alive.

    3. SG

      Suicide note purportedly written by Jeffrey Epstein weeks before his death in jail has been kept secret for years-

    4. JR

      Why?

    5. SG

      ... locked up in a courthouse. That means investigators scrutinizing his death lacked what could have been a key piece of evidence.

    6. JR

      Hmm.

    7. AS

      Hmm.

    8. JR

      Soon, in the last hour, they're saying there's a, an, a, a note they found that just-

    9. AS

      There's a brand-new note for us

    10. JR

      ... yeah, just all of a sudden exists. No one's s- they haven't shown it or said what it says. They're just, everyone's now reporting-

    11. SG

      Well, how about the fucking-

    12. JR

      ... there's a note

    13. SG

      ... autopsy that says that his prostate was unremarkable, but meanwhile, he had his prostate removed?

    14. JR

      Oh, boy.

    15. SG

      There's a lot of people that don't even believe he died.

    16. AS

      I think he's alive.

    17. SG

      I think he might be.

    18. AS

      I think they just face-offed him, and he's living a good life somewhere.

    19. JR

      You just think they changed him.

    20. SG

      Hmm.

    21. AS

      Yeah, I think that all the people that all go to that stuff, they're like, "Don't worry. If we kill you, then we're all worried about ourselves."

    22. SG

      Right.

    23. AS

      "We're just gonna relocate you."

    24. JR

      Israel.

    25. AS

      Israel, maybe.

    26. JR

      That's what I heard from Metzger. [laughs]

    27. AS

      From Metzger. It wouldn't be Israel. He'd live somewhere like-

    28. SG

      Why wouldn't he live in Israel? That's the place where he's most protected.

    29. AS

      It'd be like Cambodia, Germany.

    30. SG

      No, they'll kill him in Cambodia. You gotta live in Israel.

  12. 1:13:411:21:20

    Why US healthcare feels like a scam: costs, drug pricing, and mental health failures

    1. AS

      How come we can't get free healthcare?

    2. SP

      Yeah, right?

    3. AS

      Why don't we do that?

    4. SP

      What the hell? I'm paying out the ass.

    5. AS

      Yeah. Why can't we do that?

    6. SG

      I bet if they took all the money from fraud, it would pay for healthcare 10 times over.

    7. AS

      Or in Ukraine or Israel.

    8. SG

      Oh, yeah.

    9. AS

      Why not?

    10. SG

      Yeah. Right.

    11. SP

      Well, that's what's annoying, all these politicians are like-

    12. AS

      Afghanistan

    13. SP

      ... "If we get this much money, we can cure this."

    14. AS

      Yeah, let me ask you this.

    15. SP

      I'm like, "You have all this money. What are you doing?"

    16. AS

      Small, yeah.

    17. SG

      I think 100% free healthcare would be an awesome thing, but you'd also want doctors to be incentivized to be really good at their jobs.

    18. SP

      For sure, but also-

    19. SG

      So you want, like, a doctor-

    20. AS

      They're, they're not now

    21. SG

      ... get one, the guy that did your knee and did my knee-

    22. AS

      No

    23. SG

      ... that's a, he's a bad-

    24. SP

      Private

    25. SG

      ... bad motherfucker. Right

    26. AS

      Why can't we have, why can't we have universal healthcare and private doctors?

    27. SG

      Yes.

    28. AS

      Yeah.

    29. SG

      We should be able to have both of those things.

    30. SP

      Mm.

  13. 1:21:201:56:43

    Fame, money, stealing, and the comedy economy: views, arenas, and building an act

    1. SG

      As soon as they-

    2. AS

      ... and Mark the most.

    3. MN

      Yeah. Yeah. I love to steal.

    4. AS

      Yeah, you steal.

    5. SG

      [laughs]

    6. MN

      [laughs]

    7. AS

      Why are you locking it up?

    8. MN

      You fucking steal.

    9. AS

      Now you gotta call the... You gotta do this-

    10. MN

      You steal?

    11. AS

      ... before you about to steal.

    12. MN

      Wow.

    13. SG

      Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

    14. MN

      I got a problem.

    15. AS

      A little bit.

    16. MN

      Just at, like, airports and stuff.

    17. SG

      Little shoplifting.

    18. AS

      Nah, movie theaters. You do everywhere.

    19. SG

      Movie theaters.

    20. AS

      Come on, don't sell yourself short.

    21. SG

      They're gonna watch you now.

    22. AS

      You eat leftovers.

    23. MN

      I got sticky fingers.

    24. AS

      You steal everything.

    25. SG

      He's doing just-

    26. AS

      You steal food off people's plates

    27. SG

      ... just for a thrill?

    28. MN

      A little bit of a thrill. Can I get the Winona Ryder thing?

    29. AS

      Well, it's cheaper, too.

    30. SG

      Yeah.

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