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Chamath Palihapitiya on Joe Rogan: Why Attention Warps Tech

PageRank, social feeds, and transformer AI all optimize for attention; Chamath says the resulting capital-labor gap is the real source of anti-tech anger.

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May 5, 20262h 45mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. SP

    [upbeat music] Joe Rogan Podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music]

  2. JR

    Yeah, I was listening to Tim. First of all, hello.

  3. SP

    What's up?

  4. JR

    Good to see you, my friend.

  5. SP

    Great to see you.

  6. JR

    Uh, we were listening to Tim Dillon. I, I was listening to it on the way over here, and he was talking about, uh, Ana Paulina Luna and Tim Burchett and-

  7. SP

    [laughs]

  8. JR

    ... Trump. They're all talking about the UAP disclosures, and, like, why now? Like, what are they doing? Like, why are they distracting us with this? Tim Burchett said that whatever they're going to release, it will be indigestible.

  9. SP

    What does that mean?

  10. JR

    Right.

  11. SP

    Indigestible as in... Or well, then it doesn't mean that it's real then.

  12. JR

    Well, I think it means that it'll be so crazy-

  13. SP

    Yeah

  14. JR

    ... if it's real, so crazy. He's the one that's been saying that there's these confirmed bases under the ocean, that there's these specific locations. I think he talked... You, you're shaking your head. You don't believe a word of it?

  15. SP

    No.

  16. JR

    How come?

  17. SP

    I think, I think it's true that there... Look, it's completely implausible that there aren't other species.

  18. JR

    Right.

  19. SP

    Completely implausible. In the-

  20. JR

    Just the vast-

  21. SP

    Just the vastness of what-

  22. JR

    Right

  23. SP

    ... we're dealing with. So the real question is, like, why haven't we encountered people or those things, those beings?

  24. JR

    Right.

  25. SP

    And it's probably because they just, they have bigger fish to fry, [laughs] you know? So by the time that we meet them and they meet us, we're, we're gonna kind of be at the edge of like we've, we've kind of been there, done that on our own planet, and then we've kind of, like, developed the technology, I guess, to get beyond it. Um, but somewhere along the way, there must have been a few. Just mathematically impossible. So then the question is, is it buried, or were people confused when it first came here? Like, if you had a spaceship land in, like, the 1800s-

  26. JR

    Right

  27. SP

    ... what would people have done? They would've just freaked out. They wouldn't have understood it. Maybe they would've buried it. Depending on where it was, maybe they've started to pray to it.

  28. JR

    Right.

  29. SP

    And you would've just moved on. And then that isn't documented in history, so.

  30. JR

    But it is.

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