Tim Burchett on Joe Rogan: How Contractors Hide UFO Evidence

1. 0:02 – 1:17

   Burchett’s upcoming UAP briefing and skepticism of “disclosure week”

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.

   2. TBTim Burchett0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat rock music] Good to see you, sir.

   4. TBTim Burchett0:14

      Thank you for having me, brothers. Big honor.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Thank you. An honor for me, too. Very excited about this.

   6. TBTim Burchett0:19

      Yes, sir.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Very excited to talk to you. [laughs] There's so many different things to discuss. So do you know what is going to be released? So supposedly this is the week of some kind of disclosure.

   8. TBTim Burchett0:31

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      Can you give us any insight as to what's going on?

   10. TBTim Burchett0:33

       Well, oddly enough, I got a call that, um, that tomorrow at 3:00 I'm gonna be briefed over the phone by, um, I think one of Hegseth's top dogs is gonna go over some stuff with me that they've got and, and I have no earthly idea. I, I don't want everybody to get their hopes up. I don't have a lot of faith in, in our government. President Trump's always been great to me. He's never lied to me, but I, I don't know that he knows the right questions to ask and the right people to talk to because I mean, this thing's been covered up at least since 1947, and I just don't think they're gonna... They, they don't give up that easy. The war pimps at the Pentagon and everybody else, they just don't give up that easy.

2. 1:17 – 7:21

   Origins of Burchett’s UFO interest and how public attention pulled him into the issue

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:17

      How w- how did you come to understand all this stuff? Like, what was your understanding of it before you got into government?

   2. TBTim Burchett1:25

      I had pretty cool parents. Um-

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:26

      [laughs]

   4. TBTim Burchett1:27

      Right. Now, they would, uh... Daddy was an old World War II Marine, and Mama flew an airplane during the Second World War. I mean, they were-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:33

      Oh, wow

   6. TBTim Burchett1:33

      ... they were badasses. They're-- And they were good Christian people, but my daddy was a stone-cold killer. I mean, he was the real deal. He was on Peleliu and Okinawa in the Marine Corps. And of course, Mama's oldest brother, Roy, got killed fighting the Nazis, and Mama did her part, just a little country girl. Didn't have electricity till she was a senior in high school. So I've kinda lived the American dream. But they would let me, you know, they'd let me get bloodied up, and then they would patch me up and let me go. You know, I, I could ride my bike to the library, or the library if you're from East Tennessee, and, uh, and it was, you know, about a mile from the house. And they'd go in there, and they had these books set up, and they had all this stuff on, you know, this wild stuff, and there was a book on UFOs, and I just picked it up and started reading it. I probably wasn't, I don't know, seven or eight years old. And I just always followed it. You know, the, the magazine articles, and I'd go out at night and hope to see a UFO. Never did, never have, um, until some of the briefings I've been in. But, um, and then I'm walking down the street and, uh, uh... Can I mention another news source?

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:42

      Yeah.

   8. TBTim Burchett2:42

      Is that okay?

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:42

      Sure, yeah.

   10. TBTim Burchett2:42

       I was walking down the street, and TMZ was... There was a guy there, um, this Black fella. His name's Colin. He's a buddy of mine. He doesn't work for them anymore, but he was filming, and he said, "Hey, Congressman." He said, "You wanna make a comment on the UFO thing? You couldn't get anybody to comment." And I said, "Why, sure." I said, "They're gonna issue a r- tell you they're gonna issue y- your report, and it's gonna be loaded, and everybody's freaking out. It's gonna be the greatest thing. It's gonna be total disclosure. And then they're gonna put something out. It'll look like somebody shot it with a dadgum 12-gauge. It's just gonna have holes in it. It's all redacted." And I said, "And they're not gonna put it out this week. It'll be weeks later." And that's exactly what they did. They had a report I felt like had some information in that was new to the public, and, um, and they, um, did what they always do. They hid it, covered it up. And then, uh, f- e- everybody saw that interview, and I said on that, I said, um, "Well-

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       That's the one where you were talking about bases in the ocean?

   12. TBTim Burchett3:39

       No, no, no, no, no.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:40

       A different one?

   14. TBTim Burchett3:41

       A different one. That's a... This is totally different. This is just out on the street corner. And then I started getting calls from people literally all over the world. I mean, I've, I've talked to legislators in Russia over this issue. And then people, um, people start... just stop me on street corners and say, "Hey, man, really appreciate you going for disclosure." I have doctors tell me this. I have lawyers, engineers. I have military people that have seen things that they can't describe. I've had members of Congress. You know, there's a few bullies in Congress. They'll make fun of me and say smart-aleck stuff. But put it out there to your people. It's f- over 55% of the American population feels like we're not alone. I mean, seriously. You go out there and look at those... Every night, my dogs, they gotta take a leak. They never wanna take a leak at, like, 9:00. It's always 3:00 in the morning. I look at those dadgum stars, man, and the light from those stars left there before the time of Christ. And the light from some of those stars, the stars have already combusted. I mean, they're not even there anymore. Uh, you know, light-years to us is, is something that's hard to understand, and we are more... We are just, you know, one grain of sand on a billion beaches. And I still don't think we're the best that God can do. I mean, you know, I just can't imagine we're His shining, uh... You know, we're, we're, we're the one they put on the mantle. "Oh, look. He made humans." Well, you know, we've kinda screwed things up. So I, I, you know, and I, um, and I read my Bible, and a lot of the Christian folks knock me. They talk about it's demons, and I say, "Well, I'm good with Jesus. I'm not worrying about demons. I'm not gonna worry about that." I don't think they're demons. I don't... Why would they... They don't have to fly around in some craft to, to-

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:15

       Right

   16. TBTim Burchett5:16

       ... you know? [laughs] It's just, to me, it's, it's hard to imagine. But the, um, the underwater thing was, I was, I was getting briefed by an out... It was a former admiral came into my office. And Joe, it was, um, it was a very friendly conversation, and I'm always a little couched because... or a little... I hold back a little bit because I think there's a psyop going on with some of these departments. I was, uh, briefed by one of our alphabet agencies not long ago, and the final thing was somebody said, "Well, w- why don't we got more information?" He says, "We just don't have the funding for that, Congressman." And, you know, it's, uh... And I know they're reading the polling data, and they're saying, you know, "Well, let's shake loose the money tree for us," and that's, that's part of it, too, and I warn people about that. But, um-I guess in a nutshell, that's pretty much it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:06

       So when you first got in... How long have you been in government for?

   18. TBTim Burchett6:09

       Oh, well, eight years in, in, um, Congress. I was in our state legislature in Tennessee 16 years, and then I was county mayor for eight years.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:17

       So was it when you got into Congress that you first started getting inside information about what's going on?

   20. TBTim Burchett6:23

       Yeah. Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:23

       So that was... Was that eight years ago, or like when was that?

   22. TBTim Burchett6:25

       Uh, probably six years ago. So five or six. No, let's see. It was during Trump's first administration, so it would've been about eight years ago.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:32

       And do you remember what it was? Do you remember how you were introduced to it?

   24. TBTim Burchett6:36

       Uh, yeah. Um, we, we raised... We just raised total hell about it, and then I-

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:42

       Why?

   26. TBTim Burchett6:43

       Because it's a cover-up. Nobody would give us information.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:46

       But what made you think it was a cover-up? Why did you think that there was information?

   28. TBTim Burchett6:48

       I guess I just don't trust the government. I've been in government most of my life, and I just don't trust it. I don't-

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:53

       I understand that, but like was there something that led you to wanna pursue this particular subject?

   30. TBTim Burchett6:58

       No, just it kinda pursued me. After I did that TMZ interview, people started calling me, and then people would, um... I would get phone calls from people from-
3. 7:21 – 9:57

   First insider exposures: private videos, extreme flight behavior, and pilot intimidation

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:21

      And then getting into government, what was like the first introduction where you had a s- an idea that there's something going on?

   2. TBTim Burchett7:29

      When I started asking questions and, um, and we just get the runaround. And-

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:34

      Like what kind of questions?

   4. TBTim Burchett7:35

      Like, um, what is, what is this? Where are you seeing these things? And we would get people... I would... I had, I had an interesting in- a meeting in my office, um, with some people that were like, uh, nationally known, and they came by to see me, and they just wanted to talk to me about it. And I was, um... And, and they started telling me things, and then I had a group come to my house. I said, "Y'all just come by the office in DC, and we'll talk." And they said, "We don't feel comfortable doing that." And they came by the house, and they said, "Can we hook up to your, um, television?" And I said, "Well, sure." You know, and they hooked up the computer to it, and they were showing me, um, they were showing me objects that were flying at... And, granted, I'm not a, you know, I'm not an astrophysicist by any stretch of imagination, but they were showing me things that were flying at, at speeds that were just... That nothing compares. And the, and the angles that they were taking would literally, and I've said this before, and it grosses people out, but it would turn you or me into a ketchup package. I mean, we would... You know, you go this way and then boom, you're going this way. And we have no, no capability of any of it. And now I've been briefed so many times from, on, in different, different groups. Um, you know, you know, we've, we scrub missions because these things are out there. We, um... And then we tell everybody that's involved to keep your mouth shut. And then if you're a pilot and you come back and say, "Hey, I've seen this," you immediately pulled off the flight line. I'm not a pilot or military person, but flight line, um, is what I call it. They're not able to fly, and they're given a psych evaluation, and they're given an eight-hour, they call it a debriefing. It's... I've been told by some of the officers that have been involved, it's really just an interrogation. And then you got that hanging on your record. And, uh-

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:23

      So it influences them to stop asking questions.

   6. TBTim Burchett9:24

      Oh, they just keep their mouth shut.

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:26

      Yeah.

   8. TBTim Burchett9:26

      I literally had a guy tell me, Joe, that he, um, he said his, um, um, recorder, it was an older style plane, and he said it, I think he said it was close to his right knee, and when he got that on his recorder, he started smashing it with his right knee to discombobulate it so that it wasn't even... 'Cause he didn't want anything to... He did not need it. He saw it. He didn't need it in, in, on his record. Even if he saw it and it was on a dadgum tape, they, they drag you in. And

4. 9:57 – 13:23

   Florida briefing showdown: Gaetz, Luna, and pilots describing ‘Tic Tac’-like craft

   1. TBTim Burchett9:57

      so, you know, myself, Luna, and, um, Matt Gaetz went down to Florida to be, um, briefed by... Uh, Matt was told that some, some pilots had seen some things, and they had some photographs. And so we go down there, and, and again, we go in. I told Matt, I said, "Matt, they don't give up this stuff easy. We're gonna go down there, and I have a bad feeling they're gonna turn us or out, turn us out." Well, we went down there, and Joe, they briefed us on some very, um, very serious issues that they were dealing with, with the Chinese and, um, and, and communist infiltration and things going on, um, around, ar- ar- around Florida in, in, in the ocean. And but they didn't ever have the, the, uh... They wouldn't bring the pilots in. Matt said, "Hey, I understand all this, but this is not why we came down here." And Matt's, um, you can say what you want to about Matt Gaetz, but he's, he's a great orator, and he's a great attorney, and he just started filleting on them. And he told them, he said, "Here's what's gonna happen. You're gonna jerk me around." And he said, "I'm gonna subpoena you all, and we're gonna call y'all back to Washington." And I remember looking over in the corner at the suits, and I, and I said, and I s- I called them spooks 'cause they were obviously some sort of military intelligence or CIA. And I leaned over to Matt, and I said, "The spooks are getting [laughs] nervous, brother." Uh, 'cause they were kinda shifting around. And they shut us down. They said, "Nope, we're not gonna do it." And Matt said, "I'm calling whoever big Air Force was." He, Matt was on the, um, on one of the military committees, and he called. And, um, hour later, they stuck us up in this room and, um, had microphones under the desk. I remember Luna reached under and unplugged them. And, uh, um, they had a nice fruit tray that you paid for, taxpayers. Thank you very much. [laughs]

   2. JRJoe Rogan11:49

      [laughs]

   3. TBTim Burchett11:49

      So I went into it like a jackass eating sour briars. I was just eating. I didn't care. And so, um, [clears throat] finally came back in an hour, and the guy says, "I don't know who you all called, but you're gonna get your briefing. They're bringing the pilots in." And literally, they brought these pilots in, and they were in their, um, their flight gear.And they had just come out of the plains, and they were the ones. And they, they described things, and it's been reported now, it's been reported in public. But it was, um, these craft that were hovering for extended periods of times and could shoot straight up at incredible speeds that we don't have capabilities of doing. And those are the kind of thing... And, and too, they're, um... This was military people. These were top people. These are, like, the equiv- not, uh, you know, uh, they're just some of our top people. And I know folks are gonna say, "Well, it's probably the Russians." Well, if it's the Russians, dadgum it, they wouldn't be tied up down in Ukraine for how many years? And it, and Putin's such an egomaniac, he'd fly a saucer to Pennsylvania Avenue, get out, and probably wrestle Trump in the front yard or something, you know.

   4. JRJoe Rogan12:53

      [laughs]

   5. TBTim Burchett12:53

      Bare-chested, ride a unicorn or something. I don't know. If it was China, they'd own us even more than they already do. And then people say, "Well, it's ours, Burchett. You- it's, it's ours. They don't wanna release it." Well, think about this. President Trump, and he should have, and I give him great credit for that, that pilot that got knocked down over in Iran, we spent untold millions of dollars to bring that cat home, and we should have, 'cause it sends a message to our enemies, and it sends a message to our fighting men and women that we're not gonna leave you behind, as many presidents have done many times. There's no way

5. 13:23 – 15:32

   Deep-water sightings and ‘underwater objects’: sonar speeds, size, and no heat signature

   1. TBTim Burchett13:23

      on God's green earth that they would risk a half a billion dollar aircraft with something flying around it and, um, a- and, and risk those guys' life and all that training to put these guys in harm's way. And that's, and that's exactly what they're doing. I mean, these things were buzzing cockpits. I mean, it's, it's not an everyday occurrence. It's in certain areas, and that's where the, um, the deep water thing comes in, the deep water bases. I was sort of misquoted. I was just telling what I was told, and, um, but it makes a lot of sense that, that these deep water areas are where we see a lot of sightings. And we see ac- we've seen, um, craft underwater that do something over 200 miles an hour, that on the sonar pickup are as big as a dadgum football field. And the best we have, we don't have anything big as a football field, maybe in length, but not in, not underwater anyway. And, uh, I, you know, the best we can do is maybe upper 30 mile an hour, maybe something like that. I don't know. But 200 miles an hour, that's just out of the question. And, um, these things don't have a heat signature. And I hope, I hope, though, that they, they release some of the footage that we've seen and some that we haven't, that we've been rumored that's out there. What I'm afraid, though, it's gonna get so sanitized and it's gonna get cleaned up. I mean, even Obama, he said, "Yeah, there are aliens out there." And then in a recent interview I saw just last week or so, he's backed up on that. "Oh, I was just kidding. I was just kidding."

   2. JRJoe Rogan14:56

      Yeah.

   3. TBTim Burchett14:56

      You know? And I-

   4. JRJoe Rogan14:56

      Well, I saw Trump when he was getting interviewed. He said Obama shouldn't have said that because it's classified. He goes, "But I might release it. I might make it unclassified."

   5. TBTim Burchett15:06

      And I hope he does, and I told him that. I talked to the president about it and I said, "You know, Mr. President, it's like, it's like layers of an onion. You just keep peeling it back." And I hope, I hope he does, because-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      Well, he might be the only one that would ever do it

   7. TBTim Burchett15:18

      ... only one with enough guts.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:19

      Yeah.

   9. TBTim Burchett15:19

      Only one, 'cause he's not beholden to that bunch.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       Right.

   11. TBTim Burchett15:21

       All they've done is try to bury him.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       Right.

   13. TBTim Burchett15:24

       So.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       Yeah. So when these men came to you and they hooked up the computer to your television and showed you, did they tell you why they wanted you to see this stuff?

6. 15:32 – 17:57

   Pressure campaigns, threats, and the fight over disclosure legislation

   1. TBTim Burchett15:32

      They just thought I should know about it, because I was asking the right questions. And then shortly after that I was in po- in...

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:39

      We-

   3. TBTim Burchett15:39

      Go ahead, I'm s-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:39

      I'm sorry. Were you told that you were not supposed to tell people about this? Were you-

   5. TBTim Burchett15:43

      No, but it's interesting. I had that Deep Throat moment, you know, the, not the porn version.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:48

      Right.

   7. TBTim Burchett15:49

      The [laughs] , the, um, Richard Nixon moment, you know, where I was walking in the, in the tunnel one day and a person came up to me, and it's always a friend. It's always a friend that does this, and said... It was just the strangest conversation, and I'll never forget it, 'cause he said, "Burchett," he said, uh, "You know, you're really pushing on this UFO thing." And I go, "Yeah. Yeah, I am." He said, "Do you really think we need to do this?" And I just kept listening. I, when I was a young man, I'd have run my mouth and said, "Oh, shut up," but I listened to what he said. He said, he said, "I mean, you know, this could upset the religious community and, and all this other... I mean, some of this stuff's just left unknown, you know?" And I said, "No, it's not." And, uh, the government has no right to decide what I can and cannot understand or handle or see. And it, to me... And, and every time, Joe, let me tell you what they're gonna do. I had a two-page bill to, for disclosure, and Chuck Schumer had one that was 60 pages, I believe, and he modeled his after the Kennedy assassination, uh, committee release, which s- we're over 60 years into that and we still don't, they haven't released everything that, on, on President Kennedy getting shot. And that's what they wanted to model this dadgum thing after. Mine was two pages long. Of course, mine didn't get anywhere. I was told by a member of leadership, they come and sit with me. I call it senator's row. I sit on the back row, second from the back on the aisle. Everybody gets in trouble, they come sit with me sometimes. And, um, and I was told by a member of leadership that, um, that the intelligence community was unhappy with what I was doing. And then I got a phone call from, um, a former member of, um, President Trump's staff who told me that I needed to, um, I forget his exact terminology, but he said... Oh, he said, "You need to get some bodies around you."

   8. JRJoe Rogan17:40

      Geez.

   9. TBTim Burchett17:40

      And, and so, you know, and I, I don't know what that means. I mean, I'm the 435th most powerful member of Congress, Joe, so I, [laughs] you know.

   10. JRJoe Rogan17:47

       [laughs]

   11. TBTim Burchett17:47

       They bump me off and it's gonna be like, they'll, they'll, there'll be one tear shed on the House floor. That'd be because I owed somebody $10, I didn't pay them back, and then they'll move on to the next guy, so.

7. 17:57 – 24:14

   Missing scientists, alternative energy, and contractors as a FOIA shield

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:57

      Well, I'm sure you're aware of this narrative about the missing scientists and scientists that have turned up dead and been killed.

   2. TBTim Burchett18:03

      100%.

   3. JRJoe Rogan18:04

      Would that-

   4. TBTim Burchett18:05

      And that, that's real. I think, um, I have a theory on that, all right? And I know it's, it's a little dangerous to throw these things out, but... And I, and I, I was on maybe Fox one time and I just came up with this. I say, "Say your family's-mobbed up, okay? And y'all own a nice Italian restaurant, and it's world-renowned, and you're, you're busting at the seams, you know, and you're franchising and putting out cookbooks and everything. You got this one chef who's, who's the kingpin of all of it. But you're afraid he's talking to your competitors. Now, you don't bump him off. What you do is you rough up a few of the busboys, and that sends a quick dadgum message that you need to shut your mouth. And that timing is everything, and nothing happens by accident in Washington, DC. To me, I think it's the timing is, is, it's uncanny. Uh, you got a president s- You know, we had these hearings in Washington. You have a president that says he's gonna release stuff. And all in that same timeframe before and after that, you're having some of these high, um, high-ranking officials disappear. And to me, that's ... Nobody disappears in this country unless they, they wanna disappear. You know, there's cameras everywhere. And it just, to me, it's just, um, it reeks of a deep state sewer.

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   7. JRJoe Rogan20:39

      Yeah, I thought, one of the things that I've thought of is one of the subjects that these people were all, they're all working on different things, but they're working on alternative energy sources.

   8. TBTim Burchett20:50

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan20:51

      And-

   10. TBTim Burchett20:51

       That's the, that's the, um, that's the, the cl- I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.

   11. JRJoe Rogan20:54

       No, that's all right.

   12. TBTim Burchett20:54

       But that's what ties them together, I think.

   13. JRJoe Rogan20:57

       Yeah.

   14. TBTim Burchett20:57

       And, and two, um, their, one of them spouse said, "Oh, my husband or wife or whatever never did anything with UFOs." Well, they don't talk about it. It's actually-

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:07

       Right

   16. TBTim Burchett21:07

       ... it's a pretty close-knit group. And, uh, I always remember this. I knock on doors. That's how I got elected. Nobody really d- There's not a lot of people like me that are, come from a family of public educators [laughs] and get elected to Congress, all right? Most of my contributions are $25, and somebody wraps a Bible verse around it and, and tells me they're praying for me. I, the big boys, they're always for me the day after the election, all right? They always, "Hell, come and we got you a check," and, "We were with you all along." I always say, "Yeah, I felt it right there towards the end," you know?

   17. JRJoe Rogan21:33

       [laughs]

   18. TBTim Burchett21:33

       But, but I'm knocking on this guy's door down in Farragut, and, um, and he, he's putting his flag out. He's an older gentleman. And I said, I said, "Hey, brother, did you serve?" And he said, "No." You know, I mean, it's East Tennessee, you know, and he kinda held his head down. "No, I didn't," um, "I didn't." And I said... He said, "I, I worked at Oak Ridge." And I said, "Brother," I said, "my daddy was on Okinawa when they dropped the bomb. They were getting ready to invade mainland Japan." I said, "If my mom and daddy were alive today, they would hug you because that's..." They put it together. And he told me, he said, "Tim," before I left [laughs] he said a funny thing. He said, "My wife worked there, too, and you know, I di- she worked on a, um..." I think he said he was a fuse or something, and she was the, uh, worked on the timer on the atomic bomb. He said, "And I didn't know what she did the entire time that we were working there." That's called compartmentalization, and that's what you have here. And if I can elaborate just a little bit more, the, um... Y- y- you're familiar with FOIA. I mean, you're a member of the media.

   19. JRJoe Rogan22:35

       Yeah.

   20. TBTim Burchett22:35

       Freedom of Information Act. It means I can, I can request from a federal agency, the FBI, they probably wouldn't give it to me, but any information. But I can't go after, like, Ford Motor Company, okay? So what they've done is they've given this information, these, whatever, if it's craft, if it's material, if it's bodies, I don't know a lot. I, I have my suspicions. But they've given them to, there's four or five major contractors that you see that are always the ones that are, that are putting it out there. They're, they're missile defense systems. They're, they're coming up with this new metallurgy, these new propulsion systems. And I think that whatever they had, they gave to them early on, and they're, they're the ones. But they're so far disconnected from the government that I can't touch it. And the people that are working on it, there's nobody alive in, uh, around, that was around Roswell or any of that stuff that was in and around those years that's still alive or still working. So all those people are gone. I mean, that's the best, that's the best secret you can keep, if you tell somebody and they die.

   21. JRJoe Rogan23:35

       Right.

   22. TBTim Burchett23:35

       And that's, that's exactly what they've done. And, uh, you know, we've been given, um, places, addresses, and things, and everybody says, "Oh, man, go to... You need to get out to Area 51, Burchett, and see what's out there." There ain't nothing at freaking Area 51. As soon as we announce where we're going, the U-Haul vans would've already been there [laughs] and left, you know? And, um, and so what it's gonna take is it's gonna take a scientist or somebody that's gonna have to walk out of one of those dadgum labs before they're, um, a- allowed to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head 10 times, um, with a shotgun or something. Um, and so-

8. 24:14 – 30:12

   Bob Lazar, George Knapp, and why long-consistent testimony resonates

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:14

      Do you know the Bob Lazar story?

   2. TBTim Burchett24:16

      I do. I do. I've never met Bob. I know, uh, um, a buddy of mine, I guess, um, friend of mine, I think, sort of broke that story, um-

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:24

      George Knapp?

   4. TBTim Burchett24:25

      Yeah, Knapp, Knapp.

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:25

      Yeah.

   6. TBTim Burchett24:26

      I'm sorry. I, I, um, haven't slept much in the last 48 hours. But yeah, George, I met him through all this, and I mean, it's a big honor 'cause I grew up watching George Knapp. He's a cool guy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:35

      He's awesome.

   8. TBTim Burchett24:36

      I love him. He comes to my office and we hang out, and I mean-

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:38

      Oh, that's great

   10. TBTim Burchett24:39

       ... you know, people get, you know, they get kinda starry-eyed when they see somebody like yourself or Kid Rock or somebody, but for me, it was George Knapp.

   11. JRJoe Rogan24:47

       [laughs]

   12. TBTim Burchett24:47

       Because, I mean, you know, 'cause I asked him, I'd ask him stuff, he goes, "Yeah, that was a report I did when..." And, and 'cause I've s- I've, you know.

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:53

       Yeah. He's very careful about what he says, too. He's not a guy who says anything that he can't-

   14. TBTim Burchett24:58

       And he documents it

   15. JRJoe Rogan24:58

       ... absolutely... Yes.

   16. TBTim Burchett24:59

       You ever seen his files?

   17. JRJoe Rogan25:00

       Mm-hmm.

   18. TBTim Burchett25:00

       I mean, it's just, um-

   19. JRJoe Rogan25:01

       Yeah

   20. TBTim Burchett25:01

       ... it's a myriad of files.

   21. JRJoe Rogan25:03

       He's very even-keeled and fair in the way he assesses things. He's not hyperbolic. The way he describes things is, like, as clean and as accurate as possible.

   22. TBTim Burchett25:14

       He's not trying to sell T-shirts, really.

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:15

       Right.

   24. TBTim Burchett25:15

       I mean, he's, he's a true journalist. I, I-

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:17

       Yes

   26. TBTim Burchett25:17

       ... you know, I, I-

   27. JRJoe Rogan25:18

       And-

   28. TBTim Burchett25:18

       I wish other people would look at a guy like that and say-

   29. JRJoe Rogan25:21

       Yes

   30. TBTim Burchett25:21

       ... "That's the way we need to go with journalism."
9. 30:12 – 39:13

   Congressional hearings: staff power, public turnout, and ‘war pimps’ vs. transformative energy

   1. TBTim Burchett30:12

      The energy. It's, um, you know, we heat our homes in the winter and cool them in the summer. But then again, I always throw out the war pimps. I'm not... My, my daddy fought for this country, and I'm, I'm not... And, you know, that's, their business is war and their business is very good. Um, they, they will quickly, um, you know, stand up and, andAnd trash a guy like Favor. Um, he was, um, he testified before our committee, and I, I was, I was taken by what he s- I know him pretty well now. But we, um, [clears throat] you know, we had the committee, which was crazy. Uh, we, uh, me and Luna and, um, a bunch of others got together and said, "Man, we gotta do this committee. This is... We need to do this." And so I went to the chairman and [clears throat] he said, "Sure." And then they sorta blew it off, and then, then they want... And then I go see the staff, uh, of these committees, and that's, that's the, that's the real problem in Washington. Reagan said it best, "Don't, don't term limit politicians. Term limit staff." And I go in there and I'm told, "Yeah, well, I think we wanna just talk about this Chinese hot air balloon, is what we wanna really talk about." I said, "No. Hell no. That's not... Excuse my language. Heck no. Um, we wanna, um, we wanna talk about dadgum UFOs, what people are calling us about constantly." I mean, it was just getting so much airplay. And then, um, I was told by some old-timers, which was kinda cool, they said that, "You know, Tim, I've been here," some of them have been there 10, 15 years, and said that was the most attended committee that they could remember. They had to open up another room so people could be there. I walked out, I was on Fox that morning, and, um, um, I, I was going out. I left my office at 4:30 in the morning, and I was outside, and I remember it was hot 'cause it was summertime, and there was people already outside lining up that had come from all over the country on their own dime. I mean, these weren't, like, wealthy people. I mean, one guy said, "This is our vacation this year. We're coming to this dadgum [laughs] committee meeting." And, and Joe, they were lined up around the hall, around everywhere, and, um, that's where I met Sean Ryan and, um, a bunch of people, and it was just, it was amazing to me. And that's when Congress started paying attention to it because they realized the voters are paying attention to it.

   2. JRJoe Rogan32:25

      Hmm. Yeah, I mean, that might be the only way to put pressure on them. The, the thing about the alternative energy sources, what I, one of the things that I was thinking is that if you were involved in, whatever, petroleum, like, what- whatever your business is, and there's something that's coming along-

   3. TBTim Burchett32:42

      Put them out, it'd put them out of business.

   4. JRJoe Rogan32:43

      Yes.

   5. TBTim Burchett32:44

      Them and the Pentagon. That was my point on the Pentagon.

   6. JRJoe Rogan32:46

      Yeah.

   7. TBTim Burchett32:46

      It would put them out of business, put the oil companies out of business, 'cause this thing wasn't even showing a dadgum heat signature.

   8. JRJoe Rogan32:52

      Right.

   9. TBTim Burchett32:52

      You know, if a, if a Blackbird flies across my farm, it's gonna put out a dadgum heat signature.

   10. JRJoe Rogan32:57

       Right.

   11. TBTim Burchett32:57

       And, and through the, um, uh, all the technology we had, you know, as they called them, the, the Tic Tac.

   12. JRJoe Rogan33:04

       Mm-hmm.

   13. TBTim Burchett33:05

       Tic Tacs. Yeah, they look like the little, little mint, and, um, and that's what they were. And-

   14. JRJoe Rogan33:08

       That's what Commander David Fravor saw.

   15. TBTim Burchett33:10

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan33:11

       Yeah. And not only saw, but there's video footage of it, there's radar footage of it. It's exhibiting travel that's just b- beyond comprehension for modern technology, for current state technology.

   17. TBTim Burchett33:22

       100%.

   18. JRJoe Rogan33:22

       But if these people were working on some sort of new energy source or some sort of new propulsion system, and you've gotta imagine there's a very small amount of people that are on the cutting edge of whatever this stuff is. If this is, like, groundbreaking technology that's not known by mainstream physicists or whoever's working on it, and you only have a small group of people, if you whack one of them, you put a big stop to any progress, especially if you get the main people, the lead scientist, and that guy winds up getting assassinated or winds up in some-

   19. TBTim Burchett33:59

       Disappears. Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan34:01

       Disappears. The one lady was the weird one. So she's walking with her-

   21. TBTim Burchett34:04

       Was she hiking or something?

   22. JRJoe Rogan34:05

       Yes.

   23. TBTim Burchett34:05

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan34:06

       Walking with her friend. Uh, her friend turns around and talks to her, and then walks a little further, turns around to say something again, and she's gone. Just gone. And they bring in dogs. They have cadaver dogs. They, like, they can't find her.

   25. TBTim Burchett34:20

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan34:20

       There's no trace. No one's seen her since. And this lady was apparently... Wasn't she, Jamie, wasn't she involved in some sort of alter- alternative technology, alternative-

   27. TBTim Burchett34:30

       Yeah, I think she was on a patent for metals or something like that. She, uh, she, me- metallurgy was her deal.

   28. JRJoe Rogan34:34

       Yeah.

   29. TBTim Burchett34:34

       So you think these-

   30. JRJoe Rogan34:35

       Right
10. 39:13 – 44:46

    Compromise and control in Washington: ‘honeypots,’ leverage, and influence operations

    1. TBTim Burchett39:13

       have a family member or a wife and/or girlfriend that could work for one of these groups.

    2. JRJoe Rogan39:19

       Mm-hmm.

    3. TBTim Burchett39:20

       And they're told, "Hey, you wanna keep your dadgum job or-

    4. JRJoe Rogan39:23

       Right

    5. TBTim Burchett39:23

       ... or you want these pictures to come out or whatever. I w- we need a little help here." And then they go disrupt and come into the committee meetings and ask ridiculous questions to try to get a, a partisan fight going.

    6. JRJoe Rogan39:35

       Hmm.

    7. TBTim Burchett39:35

       And maybe some of them do it unbeknownst to them or what they're being told to do, but they do it because they're, they're just lap dogs and-

    8. JRJoe Rogan39:42

       So there's a strategy where they have a bunch of people that they sort of compromise as disruptors, and they-

    9. TBTim Burchett39:49

       And they are compromised. Exactly. That's the word. I, I was on a... And I'm gonna say another one. I was on The Benny Show early, when he was early on, and, um, and I was talking to-

    10. JRJoe Rogan39:58

        Benny Johnson?

    11. TBTim Burchett39:59

        Yeah, yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan40:00

        Yeah.

    13. TBTim Burchett40:00

        Um, and so, um, he's been very kind to me. And so he, um, he asked me about how do they do it, and I said, "Well, they used to do this thing called the honeypot." You know, they'd... You'd go to some... You go on... I never go on trips. The only trip I've ever been on at Codelle was to, uh, the border down here, uh, down in Texas, and I, um, I went down for one day, flew down here, saw the border, saw all the people coming over the border, got in an airplane, flew home. I was... It was about an 18-hour trip. It wasn't any luxury. I stayed in a room that my buddies at the frat house would have probably asked for our money back in. It was pretty rough, [laughs] you know? Got some good barbecue, though. But anyway, so, uh, um, these guys go on these trips. And say you're sitting down at the bar. I mean, you're a good-looking guy. Some girl comes up to you, or some guy, whatever your interest, whatever your proclivities are, and s- laughing at your jokes and-

    14. JRJoe Rogan40:51

        Mm-hmm

    15. TBTim Burchett40:51

        ... you know, next thing you know, you're up in the bedroom-

    16. JRJoe Rogan40:54

        Right

    17. TBTim Burchett40:54

        ... naked with them, and then you think, "Man, I pulled off the great... I pulled this off. I was with this smoke show, and my wife and kids don't know about it, and I'm just gonna... You know, me, I'm just, just, me, just between me and the Lord." And then, you know, you're getting ready to make a key vote, and one of y- and a staffer comes up or a, or a lobbyist or something, you're in the hall, and says, "Hey, Congressman." Said, "Yeah, man, how's it going?" Said, "You got this big vote." "Yeah, but I, I'm not for y'all on this one." "Okay, we understand." He said, "Hey, um, were you in a motel room in, in Istanbul with a pretty redhead one time?" And you go, "Oh." And then you say, "Man, I don't want that out. It'll wreck my..." "Well, we don't want it out. We don't. We just need your help." And that's how they sink their claws into you. They used to. And they might do that now. But I was on The Benny Show, and I was talking about that. Oh man, I caught it from... I mean, it was leadership and members. Man, everybody thinks we're sleeping around. I'm saying, "I didn't say everybody. I just said some of y'all are." I said, "You know, don't, don't..." And every day you can... There's a new one getting in trouble, so it's not any big secret. Um, 435 of us, so-

    18. JRJoe Rogan41:57

        You get 435 people, you're gonna have a few freaks in there.

    19. TBTim Burchett42:00

        Oh. [laughs]

    20. JRJoe Rogan42:02

        [laughs] In a 435 group of any human beings.

    21. TBTim Burchett42:05

        Yeah. Yeah, any, you go to, you go to-

    22. JRJoe Rogan42:06

        Especially, you know, if you can compromise a man with beautiful women-

    23. TBTim Burchett42:10

        Oh

    24. JRJoe Rogan42:10

        ... it's not that hard to do.

    25. TBTim Burchett42:11

        Or if they're, if they're gay and they don't want it out-

    26. JRJoe Rogan42:14

        Right, right

    27. TBTim Burchett42:14

        ... in their, in their public-

    28. JRJoe Rogan42:15

        Yep

    29. TBTim Burchett42:15

        ... or whatever. So I, I said this to Benny in, in our... and then I caught it, and then about a week later, a week later... And I, I said, "It's probably the Chinese, the Russians, or something." They busted a Chinese prostitution ring.

    30. JRJoe Rogan42:28

        [laughs]
11. 44:46 – 53:01

    Insider trading and the ‘rich man’s game’ of Congress

    1. JRJoe Rogan44:46

       Well, if you just think about how much money congresspeople wind up leaving office with, just that alone is incentive to play ball.

    2. TBTim Burchett44:54

       I mean, you don't mean w- you don't think we're making 16,000% on our own knowledge?

    3. JRJoe Rogan44:58

       [laughs]

    4. TBTim Burchett44:59

       [laughs] I got, my daughter called me a while back and said, "Dad," um, and she's super smart. She's do anything. Could be a veterinarian, doctor, uh, brain surgeon. She's crazy smart. I married my wife and adopted her. My wife was a widow, so genetically she's not mine, but when she gets into trouble, my wife says, "That's all you, Tim Burchett." [laughs] But she's an exceptional little girl, and she said, "Dad, I think I'd just like to cut hair." And I was like, "Right on, girl. You go and do it." And, um, and that's what she does. I mean, she's, she's going to school to do that. So I cashed out my $11,000 portfolio, which was a mutual fund, 'cause I think, and I, I don't own any individual stocks. But I think that members of Congress ought to do that. That was my bill. You don't own... A- more people have, you know, more people have played professional baseball than have ever been in, in Congress. Um, you know, it's, it's a very, it's a very tight, it's a very... And I tell people, "If you don't get off that dadgum plane and look at that capital and get chill bumps, you need to get your butt back on that plane and go home, 'cause we don't need you there." And everybody knocks on Pelosi, and I know that. But out of the top 10, you know where she is in the, in the amount of trades?

    5. JRJoe Rogan46:11

       Where is she at?

    6. TBTim Burchett46:11

       Number 11.

    7. JRJoe Rogan46:13

       Really?

    8. TBTim Burchett46:13

       She's not even in the top 10, dude.

    9. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       Well, she should get a better PR person.

    10. TBTim Burchett46:16

        I know.

    11. JRJoe Rogan46:16

        It's crazy-

    12. TBTim Burchett46:17

        I know

    13. JRJoe Rogan46:17

        ... 'cause everybody uses her as an example.

    14. TBTim Burchett46:18

        I know, but she don't care. I mean, if you were making 16,000%, would you care?

    15. JRJoe Rogan46:23

        Oh, I would be a little concerned that someone would come for me.

    16. TBTim Burchett46:26

        Ah, she's all right. She-

    17. JRJoe Rogan46:27

        Well, it's just bizarre that it's legal. That's the most bizarre thing.

    18. TBTim Burchett46:30

        Oh, it's, it's, it's, it's not right.

    19. JRJoe Rogan46:33

        Right.

    20. TBTim Burchett46:33

        It's, it's not right, but it's, it's, it's legal. And I just said, "Look, you cash out everything, you put it in a mutual fund." And I know they got this bill and everybody's all fired up for it, and I'm not a f- I prob- I don't know what I'm gonna do about it. I'm leaning-

    21. JRJoe Rogan46:45

        Which bill?

    22. TBTim Burchett46:46

        They got a new bill. They don't like my bill, mine and Luna's bill that says that you, um, you can't own individual stocks, just own a mutual fund. They're gonna let you keep your portfolio, so. I mean, some of these cats got a $20 million dadgum portfolio, dude.

    23. JRJoe Rogan46:59

        And they made $170,000 a year, which is, uh, amazing.

    24. TBTim Burchett47:02

        Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan47:02

        Imagine the average person out there m- making $170,000 and all of a sudden they make 100 million-

    26. TBTim Burchett47:10

        I know. And, and-

    27. JRJoe Rogan47:10

        ... in the stock market. Like, how?

    28. TBTim Burchett47:12

        And we're, we're involved, uh, just, and I, not all of them are crooked. Some of them are, they are geniuses. I've been in Congress with some real geniuses. But, you know, if you see, I'll give you a case in point, all right? And I've said this many times and nobody's, uh, come after me and said, you know... They told me to quit saying it, but I don't care. I got a dadgum First Amendment, I don't care. They can't, they come to knock, to East Tennessee and try to beat me, but, but they, um, if, if, uh, uh... I forgot what I was saying now, man. I've lost my mind. I guess that part you're gonna have to cut out.

    29. JRJoe Rogan47:44

        Oh, no, it's, we were talking about insider trading. We're talking about the amount of money that people generate. That's where we're at. We were talking about bills-

    30. SPSpeaker47:53

        Someone's a genius. Someone's a genius, really good at it.
12. 53:01 – 1:08:50

    ‘Age of Disclosure’: amnesty concerns, whistleblower protections, and contractor favoritism

    1. JRJoe Rogan53:01

       So one of the things about this, uh, disclosure thing, um, the documentary, uh, Age of Disclosure.

    2. TBTim Burchett53:07

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan53:07

       And you're in that. Um, the, it's really great. If you haven't seen it, folks, and you're interested in the UFO phenomenon, one of the fascinating, uh, aspects about Age of Disclosure is you got all these insider people that are all talking about all these different experiences that people have had and all the stuff that people know. And one subject came up that made a lot of sense, and it was that if there have been back engineering programs, and they've have had access to all this technology, and they've had crashed r- s- vehicles and biological entities, and they've been, all these programs studying this for so long, they had to have funding. So if they had funding, that means they had a lie to Congress. So if they had a lie to Congress, there's misappropriation of funds. So you're talking about massive feno- felonies. So if they don't have some sort of amnesty, and this is one of the things that's pushed throughout this entire documentary-

    4. TBTim Burchett54:03

       Yeah

    5. JRJoe Rogan54:03

       ... is that we need some kind of mass amnesty. I'm a very skeptical person. I see something like that, I'm like, "Okay, I see what you're doing." You are talking about UFOs so you can get some sort of amnesty for misappropriation of funds, and that might just be straight up fraud. There might be fraud and theft, and you might have moved money into offshore accounts, and there's mus- m- might, may a bunch of shady shit, and you could say, "Oh, but we'll tell you some very obscure information about UAPs." I don't like that term, 'cause it was always UFOs.

    6. TBTim Burchett54:40

       UFOs, that was a, that's a misdirection.

    7. JRJoe Rogan54:42

       Thank you. Yeah.

    8. TBTim Burchett54:42

       I hate that term. I, I-

    9. JRJoe Rogan54:43

       Why do we need a new name?

    10. TBTim Burchett54:44

        We don't.

    11. JRJoe Rogan54:44

        We've already had that u- name forever.

    12. TBTim Burchett54:46

        We don't want to change it.

    13. JRJoe Rogan54:46

        Let's call it what it is.

    14. TBTim Burchett54:47

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan54:47

        UFOs is fun. UAPs makes me, it feels sanitized. But if they can give you some fucking, you know, semi-shady information, now you've got amnesty.

    16. TBTim Burchett55:00

        And attach it to that. Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan55:00

        Now you've got amnesty, and you've got amnesty for decades of misappropriation of funds. So maybe-Some of it is real. Maybe a lot of it is real. Maybe a lot of it is really back engineering programs.

    18. TBTim Burchett55:13

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan55:13

        Maybe they really have been doing these things, and maybe they can give us slowly trickle down some insight as to what's going on. It'll probably take forever if you ever get anything out of it. But in the meantime, all these people that have made who knows how much money in shady ways with all this misappropriation of funds, and now they're not in trouble anymore.

    20. TBTim Burchett55:34

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan55:35

        Yeah.

    22. TBTim Burchett55:35

        Representative Eric Burlison has a bill to do just that, and it was... But it's, it's whistleblower protection is the way you need to go about that.

    23. JRJoe Rogan55:42

        Hmm.

    24. TBTim Burchett55:42

        And, um, and, and he can't-- he's tried to get it attached to bills and he j- and we j- they just won't allow it. They won't allow it. Or they put it on and kill it in the Senate. You know, it's the same old game, Joe.

    25. JRJoe Rogan55:54

        Yeah.

    26. TBTim Burchett55:54

        Back and forth.

    27. JRJoe Rogan55:55

        So then the other problem that's brought up in Age of Disclosure is, say if you do have a retrieved craft from wherever, another planet, another dimension, whatever it is, from the ocean, whatever it is, and you need to study this thing, w- where are you bringing it to? Most likely, you're gonna bring it to a weapons manufacturing company.

    28. TBTim Burchett56:18

        100%.

    29. JRJoe Rogan56:19

        And so if you do that, well, what about the other companies? They don't have access to that? Well, then they can sue. They can, "Why didn't I get access to that sort of technology? Why does this person... You've damaged my business," or, you know, what have you. You've-- And also, people have probably lied under oath about whether or not those things exist or what, where they got certain technologies. I mean, there's a bunch of different reasons why you could see why, logical reasons why you could see why they would pro- try to put the brakes on disclosure and try to put some blockades up and try to obfuscate and make things much more difficult to get through.

    30. TBTim Burchett56:56

        I agree. I, uh, uh, 100%. And that's why I think these folks disappearing and dying unexpect- unexpectedly are-
13. 1:08:50 – 1:25:56

    From UFOs to political violence: Trump assassination attempts, ‘programming,’ and MKUltra parallels

    1. TBTim Burchett1:08:50

       I tried to kill him three times.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:08:52

       Yeah.

    3. TBTim Burchett1:08:52

       So, you know, it's not... And that ain't no-

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:08:55

       Did you see that judge that apologized to the guy that... Did you see the story?

    5. TBTim Burchett1:09:00

       No.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:09:00

       Okay. The guy who was at the White House Cor- Correspondence Dinner that shot one of the Secret Service agents, and the guy got arrested.

    7. TBTim Burchett1:09:07

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:09:07

       The judge who's dealing with the case apologized to him for his treatment in jail.

    9. TBTim Burchett1:09:13

       [laughs]

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:09:14

        Do you have that, Jamie? See if you can find that. It's-

    11. TBTim Burchett1:09:16

        He should've gotten some quality stick time.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:09:18

        This is another guy, this judge also, uh, released another man who was arrested for threatening to kill Trump.

    13. TBTim Burchett1:09:25

        Oh. Trump Derangement Syndrome for real, dude.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:09:29

        Well, it's-

    15. TBTim Burchett1:09:29

        It's ridiculous

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:09:30

        ... but the way this guy addressed this man, it's almost as if he was condoning it. Look at it says, "The indictment comes a day after the judge overseeing the case against Allen expressed grave concerns about how he's being treated in jail and apologized to him in court." You're talking about a guy who showed up with a rifle or a shotgun.

    17. TBTim Burchett1:09:49

        Shotgun and-

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:09:49

        Shot a Secret Service agent.

    19. TBTim Burchett1:09:51

        Yep.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:09:51

        Obviously in the vest, the guy's okay, but, "Whatever you've been through, I apologize for the prior week," Magistrate Judge Zia Faruqui, I don't know if I'm saying that right-

    21. TBTim Burchett1:10:03

        Mm

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:10:03

        ... said during a hearing in Washington, DC, on Monday. According to the court documents filed over the weekend, Allen had been in solitary confinement," oh, poor baby, "at the DC jail after being placed on suicide watch after his arrest on April 25th. His lawyers said that he was housed in a permanently illuminated safe cell with no access to personal items or jail visits, despite repeated assessments showing he did not exhibit any suicide factors. In an order issued on Sunday, uh, Faruqui, uh, wrote that he had grave concerns about the conditions Allen was being kept in, which he said were seemingly unprompted by the facts of the case. 'It could drive a person crazy to be in that situation,' Faruqui said during Monday's hearing." That is really crazy.

    23. TBTim Burchett1:10:48

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:10:49

        That is r- that is really a crazy thing to apologize for someone who was trying to... At least assumed. You're tr- you're assuming he was trying to kill the president.

    25. TBTim Burchett1:10:59

        And the guy's been programmed to do this. He immediately turns, you know, from one way to the other, uh, overnight almost, and this is... And we're seeing this more and more, I think. I think it's-

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:11:12

        What do you mean the guy's been programmed?

    27. TBTim Burchett1:11:14

        I think these people are, um-

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:11:16

        You mean like MKUltra type programming?

    29. TBTim Burchett1:11:18

        Hun- 100%.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:11:19

        Really?
14. 1:25:56 – 1:33:40

    COVID, media collapse, bio-security fears, and ‘messing with nature’ (ticks, mosquitoes, animal testing)

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:25:56

       Well, COVID sunk them. The way they handled COVID and the way they carried water for the pharmaceutical drug industry-

    2. TBTim Burchett1:26:02

       Oh, shit

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:26:03

       ... and Fauci.

    4. TBTim Burchett1:26:04

       And the V- And the V- yeah, Fauci and now he's gonna walk.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:26:06

       Is he gonna walk? Because there's some talk about him possibly being set up for perjury, but there's only a week to go.

    6. TBTim Burchett1:26:11

       Yeah, there's a week to go. I just don't... He'll get a stern letter from somebody in Washington.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:26:16

       Oh.

    8. TBTim Burchett1:26:16

       That drives me crazy, man. That's how, you know, the big boys, you go down to the, the big hardware chain and they were allowing people to go in, but they closed down the little local ones and they closed the churches-

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:26:27

       Uh-huh. Yep

    10. TBTim Burchett1:26:27

        ... and the synagogues and everybody down.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:26:29

        Yep.

    12. TBTim Burchett1:26:29

        And then we just all got in line. They just rang the bell and we're like Pavlov's dog, and we just all got in line. I remember at my hospital in Knoxville, one of them, I came out there and, you know, to get tested. I got tested, I can't tell you how many times I got tested and I never tested positive. I never took the vaccine or any of that. But I can remember coming out there and they had these, um, morgues they were setting up just in anticipation of, of what. And I just thought, man, this is... If this doesn't work out, this is the ultimate psyop 'cause people are gonna get rich off this crazy thing. And they did. You know, we, um-

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:27:01

        Greatest transfer of wealth ever

    14. TBTim Burchett1:27:02

        ... unbelievably.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:27:03

        Yeah.

    16. TBTim Burchett1:27:03

        Unbelievably. [laughs] Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:27:05

        Yeah.

    18. TBTim Burchett1:27:05

        And Congress just did it. We just did it and didn't ask any questions.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:27:08

        Well, it seems like there's a real pandemic right now on this cruise ship. You know about that hantavirus?

    20. TBTim Burchett1:27:13

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:27:13

        That seems really crazy. So the-

    22. TBTim Burchett1:27:14

        And the, and ticks. Watch that thing.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:27:17

        The tick thing is nuts.

    24. TBTim Burchett1:27:18

        Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:27:18

        Especially-

    26. TBTim Burchett1:27:19

        Yeah, well, 'cause of meat, 'cause of Gates.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:27:20

        Uh-huh.

    28. TBTim Burchett1:27:21

        Um-

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:27:22

        Well, there's boxes-

    30. TBTim Burchett1:27:22

        Bill Gates, not Matt
15. 1:33:40 – 1:39:26

    Skateboards, ethics rules, and the absurdity of allowing stock trades but not side businesses

    1. TBTim Burchett1:33:40

       I, I just, uh... And it's... And, and, uh, and I'm a capitalist. I'm a heartless capitalist. I make skateboards. Um, and I'm-

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:33:47

       You make skateboards?

    3. TBTim Burchett1:33:48

       Yeah, yeah. It's cheaper than a psychiatrist.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:33:51

       [laughs]

    5. TBTim Burchett1:33:52

       [laughs] I go... I'm, I guess I'm a little bit like Trump. I like ketchup on my steak, although I think he gets his well done, I get mine medium rare. But, um-

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:33:58

       You put ketchup on your steak? You should go to jail.

    7. TBTim Burchett1:34:00

       Has the Baptist Church got a bus?

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:34:02

       That's terrible.

    9. TBTim Burchett1:34:02

       Yes, they do. And yes, I do.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:34:03

        That's terrible.

    11. TBTim Burchett1:34:04

        Anyway. No, I make skateboards.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:34:05

        [laughs]

    13. TBTim Burchett1:34:05

        So I make this crazy skateboard for, um, for, um, Tulsi Gabbard. She's a buddy of mine. She's, she's, she's kind of a-

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:34:12

        I love her.

    15. TBTim Burchett1:34:13

        I love her, too. She is wonderful. And she's from Hawaii. So in Trump's first-

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:34:17

        Oh, that's it.

    17. TBTim Burchett1:34:17

        There it is. Oh, okay. I made that skateboard. It's-

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:34:19

        Your Bigfoot skateboard? [laughs]

    19. TBTim Burchett1:34:21

        Yeah. Well, I put my sticker on it.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:34:22

        [laughs]

    21. TBTim Burchett1:34:22

        It's made out of bamboo, oak, and banana fibers off the banana plant.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:34:26

        Oh, wow.

    23. TBTim Burchett1:34:27

        And, um, and she, she outs me during the, um, Trump's first... And there's my guys at Pluto Sports. They put my wheels and trucks on. It's just a... They're guys I was in high school with. Um, but anyway-

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:34:39

        Can you skate?

    25. TBTim Burchett1:34:39

        Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I don't do the fancy stuff. I just-

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:34:42

        You don't do tricks?

    27. TBTim Burchett1:34:42

        Uh, not anymore. I'm 61, dude. I don't heal like I did when I was 51, much less when I was a young man, though.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:34:47

        You're only a few years older than me.

    29. TBTim Burchett1:34:49

        Well, you look good.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:34:51

        Thank you.
16. 1:39:26 – 1:58:29

    ‘Pallets of cash’ to Afghanistan: NGOs, UN transfers, and alleged Taliban cutbacks and kickbacks

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:39:26

       ... that the Taliban gets how many millions of dollars a week?

    2. TBTim Burchett1:39:30

       About $40 million a week. Um, it all happened, I was on a, um, a podcast and they were talking about it. And, um, Sean Ryan, and he had, he, after-

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:39:44

       I love that dude.

    4. TBTim Burchett1:39:45

       Yeah. Great American. Love him.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:39:46

       Good man.

    6. TBTim Burchett1:39:47

       He's, he's, he's a good Christian man. He's been through it. You know, he's an incredible guy, um, that they've asked to do horrible things. And people like that, I give them a wide path. I let them slide on a lot of things. But he's, he's a good daddy and, and, um, you know, he's... And he, he, he worries about our country. He reminds me a lot of my dad, 'cause Dad was... You couldn't wake my dad up, um, till the day he died, over the top of him. Always by his big toe-

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:40:13

       [laughs]

    8. TBTim Burchett1:40:13

       ... 'cause he, 'cause he might wake up on one of those islands-

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:40:16

       Ooh

    10. TBTim Burchett1:40:16

        ... and pin me against the wall.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:40:17

        Right.

    12. TBTim Burchett1:40:18

        He was a Marine on Peleliu and Okinawa and-

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:40:20

        Yeah

    14. TBTim Burchett1:40:21

        ... Daddy's colonel was a guy named Chesty Puller, Colonel Puller. You can look him up. He was a Marine Corps legend, but... And my daddy loved him. But, um, anyway, the, um... I'm, I'm on this podcast with Sean and he says, "Hey, I want you to introduce Eli Crane. He's a Mar- he's a..." Excuse me, "Navy SEAL in Congress." He said, "I want you to go on this podcast with Sean Ryan." I said, "I don't know who Sean Ryan is." I don't... I'm not a podcast guy. I don't... Uh, my daughter always, "Give me your phone." You know, I don't know how to do it, and all of a sudden I got a cool picture of her on there. I don't even know how she did it. But, so I'm on there and, um, and he calls me and says, "I want you to meet with this guy. He goes by the name Legend." And that's not his real name. But, um, he, um, he, he comes up, he comes into the office and he has to... He can't use his real name and, uh, and says, "Look, they're getting $40 million a week." I said, "Who is?" He said, "The Taliban." And he's a, he's a, um, Afghani that fought for us, and so he's dual citizenship. Introdu- you know, I talked to the pre- for- last democratically elected president of Afghanistan through him on a, on a call. And, um, and he's a dear friend. And he comes by all the time and we talk and... And so John Stout in my office, who's like... He's the best. I mean, this guy, his mom and daddy were in a very tragic car accident, and they, um, they prayed through it and, and they both lived. I mean, Daddy had to get... You know, he's, he's banged up and his mama's head got banged up pretty bad, and John's just... He's, he is the quintessential staffer because he's so loyal and he loves this country. And so he said, "Boss, I think I got an idea." I said, "All right." So he figured out this monitoring thing where what they do is they, um, they send, they send pallets of cash to them through whatever, and they, uh... There's three banks in, um, over there that are owned by the Taliban, and everything goes through them. You know, the Lord takes 10% with tithe and [laughs] but the Taliban takes a hell of a lot more. They take it right off the top and on ingress and egress. If you give them money or take money away, I mean, or if you spend money or put money in or whatever, you take in or pay out, they get their cut off of it every dadgum time. And so I'm thinking, "This can't be right." So I got a memo on my desk from the State Department. It's stamped classified, so I can't talk about it, but then it's stamped unclassified under it, so I can talk about it. And it basically said under the Biden administration, they think we gave them $5 billion with a B, $5 billion. Now, uh, er, a- and you've got NGOs. Now how many NGOs you think operate out of, out over there?

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:43:06

        I don't know. How many?

    16. TBTim Burchett1:43:07

        Over 1,000. And then you throw in the United Nations, and the-

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:43:11

        Wait, out of Afghanistan?

    18. TBTim Burchett1:43:12

        Yeah, it's just-

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:43:13

        There's 1,000 NGOs?

    20. TBTim Burchett1:43:14

        It's the freaking- it's, it's the biggest scam. NGOs, I wrote a letter to the president months ago, and I'm, uh, they've tapped the brakes on the NGOs. I mean, some of them don't have any money, and some of them got a lot. But Elon Musk told me, like I really know him. I mean, I've hung out with him a couple times and we talked. Called me Tim, which I thought was pretty cool.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:43:34

        [laughs]

    22. TBTim Burchett1:43:34

        Um, but he says, uh, um, he says, "Tim, here's how these NGOs work." He said, "You know, they start out as a good organization," maybe during Bush one or Bush two. You know, a lot of those limousine liberals, do-gooders, you know, they start these organizations. And they, um, they set them up and, and to do, you know, feed the starving children or whatever. Well-They don't have any money in them, and some billionaire who we could, we all know, you can just name them, they'll drop a million in one of those. And then this unelected bureaucrat in Washington, DC says, "Hey, they got a million dollars. This place is legit." And so they give them money. They put the money in there for them, and then they start running federal money through that, yours and my tax dollars. And he told me he thinks they stole over a trillion dollars, and I thought... At the time, I thought that was crazy. But then I start looking at, um, uh, you know, what happened in, uh, Minneapolis, Minnesota.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:44:31

        Mm-hmm.

    24. TBTim Burchett1:44:32

        19 billion. Joe, when I went to state legislature, our, our state budget of Tennessee wasn't $19 billion. This is years ago, and so it's a lot more than that now. But that's the, the amount of fraud and waste and abuse that go on. Well, so back, backtrack to this deal. So I get involved with it, and, um, and, and it, it's just unbelievable. It took me two... I, I passed the bill twice, and the second time, my buddy John Stout in the office there, he comes up with an even stronger version. And so we send it to the Senate, and so we find out that there's a Senate staffer that, uh, somebody said he's like the unofficial, uh, ambassador to Afghanistan. He's... I've, I've literally read where he said, it seem, appears to me, complimentary things about the Taliban. Now, those people wanna kill us. They'll, as I like to say, they'll hate us for free. We don't need to give them any money. Well, it's like pull, it's like pulling teeth through my committee. The Democrats raised a ruckus, and, uh, because obviously they don't want anybody looking at those NGOs. And the NGO money, now get this, it maybe a little bit goes to feed some starving kid, but a lot of it gets washed, and it goes back to the good old United States of America. Are you familiar with dark money in campaigns?

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:45:53

        Yes.

    26. TBTim Burchett1:45:54

        You know, you're... And I'll... Folks back home, y- y- y- the day before the election, the, the people for American Justice approved this ad. "Did you know Tim Burchett, you know, pushed his second grade girlfriend down in a mud puddle and never apologized?" That's what happened. You know-

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:46:11

        Right

    28. TBTim Burchett1:46:11

        ... and then paid for by the people for American Justice. You know.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:46:14

        Right.

    30. TBTim Burchett1:46:14

        You know. And then, but what's happened is, is that money that you're sending over there is coming back in the form of dark money, and we've got... And, and I've, I think both parties are involved with it at some point. I think the Democrats have had the, have had a run of it, and they've, they've got a, they've got it pretty much closed. They've got a pretty good market going on it, in my opinion. And there are probably some Republicans I think I know of that are, that have some dark money, too. And, uh, not necessarily from this, but from other things. And then you start talking about the UN. The UN has got... And, and everybody, "So that's UN, Burchett. We don't have any..." The heck we don't. We sponsor the freaking UN. If it was up to me, I'd pull out of the dadgum UN. They are nothing. All they do is get Americans killed. They, they, they talk ugly about us, and then they take our dadgum money, and we let them do it, because crooked politicians are in bed... Washington is crooked as a dog's leg, Joe. And this, and this bill makes them report it and, and, and follow the money so we know where it's going. And if it's going to the pal- Taliban, it's out. And, and so-
17. 1:58:29 – 2:19:12

    Veterans, psychedelics policy wins, and why institutional power fears reform

    1. TBTim Burchett1:58:29

       Sorry

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:58:29

       ... you know, kudos to Trump for passing this psychedelics bill.

    3. TBTim Burchett1:58:33

       Oh, good gosh, I saw you on that. I love that. I, I ta- 'cause I, I didn't know anything about it.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:58:38

       Yeah.

    5. TBTim Burchett1:58:38

       And I, and I asked, um, I asked some of those guys about it before, and they said, "Oh yeah, Burchett, it, it's..." W- I, one of, one member confided in me that he'd, you know, 'cause he'd been in some of the mess. And he, and I, and I told him, I said, "You know, my daddy was, had anger issues and stuff. He never beat Mama or me or anybody, but-"

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:58:57

       How could you not?

    7. TBTim Burchett1:58:58

       Gosh, I know. I-

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:58:59

       How could you expect... That's the crazy thing. You expect this of people to do horrible things and to see horrible things-

    9. TBTim Burchett1:59:05

       Great p-

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:59:05

        ... then to come back and just go to the grocery store.

    11. TBTim Burchett1:59:07

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:59:07

        Just be normal.

    13. TBTim Burchett1:59:08

        Yeah. That-

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:59:08

        Just sit in traffic, be normal.

    15. TBTim Burchett1:59:10

        I remember one time we were at a UT football game, and I was a little boy. I must've been four or five. And, uh, and Da- we were on the 50 yard line. It was in the '60s, and they, uh, they let you bring these cowbells, and it was the last game they let you bring cowbells to. I don't think you can probably do it now, but back then they, they... And so this guy was sitting behind us, and he was drunk. And he, and he took the Lord's name in vain. And my daddy said, "Hey." He said, "We got ladies down here." You know, my sister, who was probably seven or eight, and, or, and my mama was there. And the guy said, "Okay." And then the guy spilled his drink on my dad, and my mama grabbed us, all us kids, and just rushed us out. And, and I remembered, I was like, "No, what's Daddy doing?" You know? And the UT cops, they loved my daddy 'cause he was dean of student conduct. He always backed them up. And, um, they come running down the aisle, and literally my dad b- w- beat these guys' ass, all three of them, right there on the 50 yard line at Neyland Stadium. And I was just a little boy, [laughs] and I was like... He didn't give high fives back then, but if I had, I would've given him 'cause he was, he was pretty incredible guy.

    16. JRJoe Rogan2:00:10

        Well, a guy who's been to war like that man had, and you come back and-

    17. TBTim Burchett2:00:16

        Uh, a- and it wasn't any different than thousands of other of his buddies. You know, they would get together and talk about stuff. And, and I, you know, we didn't drink in the house. My mom and daddy didn't let me have a beer can collection. Him and Daddy's buddy Red Welch came over, and Red drank beer at the h- at the dinner table. And it was in the '80s. I was in, I was... Gosh, I was getting ready to go to college, and that was still no beer in the house, and Red was drinking beer. And I said, "Daddy." I said, "What's the deal with Red drinking beer?" And he said, "Buddy," he said, "You get pinned down on one of them islands, and you got, y- you know you're gonna get, you're gonna leave this earth pretty soon. There's one guy that comes running for you. He can do pretty much whatever he wants to in your house." [laughs] And that was Red. I found an old picture of him and Daddy in China the other day. But yeah, Daddy had, um, he had a great life, though. He had a great life. Him and Mama are both buried at Veterans Cemetery there in Knoxville. And, you know, to this day, I'm 61 years old, and if I go up there, I, I, I think about them and their sacrifice, and I cry like a baby. 'Cause I, I go to that Capitol, Joe, and I see people just, that are just gonna throw it all away. Throw it all away. And to me, that's just, that's, that is unforgivable.

    18. JRJoe Rogan2:01:25

        Yeah.

    19. TBTim Burchett2:01:25

        Unforgivable.

    20. JRJoe Rogan2:01:27

        Well, I'm very happy that some of these people that have experienced these horrible things have at least a pathway to relief now.

    21. TBTim Burchett2:01:36

        Yeah. And that is-

    22. JRJoe Rogan2:01:37

        That-

    23. TBTim Burchett2:01:37

        And, and thank you for getting involved, brother. That is, that was huge.

    24. JRJoe Rogan2:01:40

        Well, thank-

    25. TBTim Burchett2:01:41

        Because I couldn't see that every-

    26. JRJoe Rogan2:01:42

        ... Rick Perry.

    27. TBTim Burchett2:01:42

        Do what?

    28. JRJoe Rogan2:01:43

        Thank Rick Perry.

    29. TBTim Burchett2:01:44

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan2:01:44

        Rick Perry and Brian Hubbard, because if it wasn't for them explaining to me what they've been through and w- how it's helped people, and all the other people that I know, like Marcus Luttrell is a friend who's-

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