Joe Rogan Experience #2497 - Gad Saad

1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

   [upbeat music] Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. [upbeat music] Good to see you, sir.

2. GSDr. Gad Saad0:14

   Oh, so good to see you.

3. JRJoe Rogan0:15

   What's happening? How you been?

4. GSDr. Gad Saad0:17

   Doing great. Uh, got big news.

5. JRJoe Rogan0:19

   Big?

6. GSDr. Gad Saad0:20

   I'll, I'll talk... Big, very big.

7. JRJoe Rogan0:21

   Big. Really big?

8. GSDr. Gad Saad0:21

   Before I start with any-

9. JRJoe Rogan0:22

   Okay

10. GSDr. Gad Saad0:24

    ... drops.

11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

    The book. Suicidal Empathy.

12. GSDr. Gad Saad0:27

    Suicidal Empathy.

13. JRJoe Rogan0:28

    A quote that we use all the time.

14. GSDr. Gad Saad0:29

    That's right.

15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

    Yeah. It is, uh, it is a good quote, and it is a very accurate quote for the times. I like this, where they're carrying a sign, "Free the wolves."

16. GSDr. Gad Saad0:38

    [laughs]

17. JRJoe Rogan0:38

    The lamb is carrying-

18. GSDr. Gad Saad0:39

    Well, I wanted the, the cover to be as evocative as the, the concept, right?

19. JRJoe Rogan0:45

    Dying to Be Kind. [laughs]

20. GSDr. Gad Saad0:46

    There you go. And there are-- Just in the last two days, there have been so many new cases of suicidal empathy that I regret that I couldn't include them in the book, but-

21. JRJoe Rogan0:56

    Like which ones?

22. GSDr. Gad Saad0:57

    So did you hear about the one where the, the guy who tried to assassinate President Trump-

23. JRJoe Rogan1:02

    Oh, yeah

24. GSDr. Gad Saad1:03

    ... the judge then went and said, "I am so sorry that, you know, you're not being treated nicely. You have a, a, a room without a window." This is just, it's mean.

25. JRJoe Rogan1:13

    Oh, see, I don't think that that's suicidal empathy at all. I think that's signaling. I, I think that's signaling that he wishes that that man was successful, and that he supports his endeavor.

26. GSDr. Gad Saad1:23

    Fair enough. The second example, uh, actually today, uh, Dave Rubin shared it with me. Uh, it was the one where a felon of color who had just been released ended up pushing-

27. JRJoe Rogan1:37

    Someone. Yeah

28. GSDr. Gad Saad1:37

    ... uh, right? And, and the, the previous person that he had been entangled with didn't want to, whatever, press charges because she didn't want another Black man to be in prison.

29. JRJoe Rogan1:47

    Oh, boy.

30. GSDr. Gad Saad1:48

    So, uh-

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