Joe Rogan Experience #2501 - Marc Andreessen

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4. MAMarc Andreessen0:13

   All right.

5. JRJoe Rogan0:13

   Mr. Andreessen, good to see you, sir.

6. MAMarc Andreessen0:15

   Great to be back. Thank you.

7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

   So we were just talking about this wild crime spree that happened this weekend in Austin.

8. MAMarc Andreessen0:22

   Yeah.

9. JRJoe Rogan0:22

   So it seems like it was... Was it teenagers that were doing this?

10. MAMarc Andreessen0:25

    Yeah.

11. JRJoe Rogan0:26

    Yeah?

12. MAMarc Andreessen0:26

    15 and 17.

13. JRJoe Rogan0:27

    You're not on a microphone there, fella.

14. MAMarc Andreessen0:29

    15 and 17 years old.

15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

    15 and 17 years old.

16. MAMarc Andreessen0:31

    It was terrible. It's terrible.

17. JRJoe Rogan0:32

    What was the purpose? Just going crazy?

18. MAMarc Andreessen0:34

    I think so, yeah. They stole cars, and stole guns, and switched cars, and-

19. JRJoe Rogan0:38

    And they shot, and they shot at, like, f- 10 different locations, apparently.

20. MAMarc Andreessen0:41

    One person's, at least one person's in critical condition.

21. JRJoe Rogan0:43

    Yeah.

22. MAMarc Andreessen0:44

    They shot multiple people.

23. JRJoe Rogan0:45

    Yeah. So you were saying that the reason why they had a hard time catching them is because of they had Flock cameras in Austin.

24. MAMarc Andreessen0:53

    Yeah.

25. JRJoe Rogan0:53

    But then they shut those cameras off for political reasons.

26. MAMarc Andreessen0:56

    Correct. Yes. Yeah, and so-

27. JRJoe Rogan0:58

    So please explain that.

28. MAMarc Andreessen0:59

    Yeah, so these guys are driving around in cars, and yeah, they're switching cars, whatever. It, yeah, and they're... And they, they went to, like, a dozen locations and, like, fight, you know, and tried sh- shooting, shooting at buildings, and people, and houses, and, and all kinds of stuff. And so, okay, so you got these guys running around. So they, there's this system called Flock, which is one of our companies. And, and what they do, it's kind of like in the movies. You, you take all the municipal cameras, and traffic cameras, and everything, and you feed them into an AI, AI, and the AI is able to f- first find a license plate in, in real time. So you can, you can find that. But, but second, you can actually find a car even if you don't have the license plate, 'cause you can find, like, distinct markings of the car. It'll... On the car. It'll track the car. And so th- this thing is deployed. It's, this, it's sold to city governments. It's used all over the country. Um, it solves crimes. Every, every day we get reports on, you know, carjackings with kids in the backseat, and their lives get saved 'cause, you know, they, they track them down. So a lot of, lot of, lot of towns and cities have this and, and they love it. In cities like Austin, with the intense politics, you know, they, they run into backlash on, on privacy and, and, um, and surveillance concerns. And so Austin had Flock and then turned it off. And as a consequence, they were not able to find these guys for, I don't know, whatever, several days. Um, and then what happened at the late-breaking news today is these guys drove into some adjacent town, um, uh, you know, uh, uh, up against Austin. And, and, and Flock is, was live in that town, and so Flock tagged them the minute they drove into that, that town, and then they, they caught the guys. Subsequent to that, the mayor, your, your mayor, uh, in Austin, of... Your mayor and your chief of police gave a press conference and said [chuckles] "We really need to rethink this, um, 'cause it's, it's, it's crazy to have the ability to solve crimes and stop crimes, uh, and not be able to use it."

29. JRJoe Rogan2:26

    Yeah, so the concern is mass surveillance, right? And the concern is that someone's gonna abuse this and use AI for nefarious purposes, right? Like, what nefarious purposes would that be?

30. MAMarc Andreessen2:39

    Yeah, so this is a system, this is a system that could be used in bad ways, right?

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