Joe Rogan Experience #2515 - Chase Hughes

1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

   [upbeat music] Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music] Chase Hughes, ladies and gentlemen.

2. CHChase Hughes0:14

   Hey, Joe.

3. JRJoe Rogan0:15

   Good to see you.

4. CHChase Hughes0:15

   Good to see you, man.

5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

   What's happening? How are you?

6. CHChase Hughes0:18

   Good. Doing really good. Just got in Austin last night.

7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

   I watched these videos of you describing this intravenous DMT experience, and the first thing I said is, "I need to talk to this guy about that." Like, that seems like one of the most insane descriptions of anything that anybody's ever experienced-

8. CHChase Hughes0:38

   Yeah

9. JRJoe Rogan0:39

   ... that, that I've ever seen online.

10. CHChase Hughes0:40

    Yeah.

11. JRJoe Rogan0:41

    So tell me about this experience.

12. CHChase Hughes0:43

    So [sighs] it's DMT, and this guy makes it, and they put it into a pump, and it's like an anesthesia pump that you'd have in, like, an operating room. And essentially they can adjust your, like, milliliters per hour dose, like they would use for anesthesia. And like, they launch you off. You're laying ... Th- the space is beautiful. It ... They hold the space really well, and they can-

13. JRJoe Rogan1:14

    What do you, what do you mean by that, they hold the space really well?

14. CHChase Hughes1:16

    Like, it's a beautiful space. Like, there's this amazing place where you lay down in the middle of the room. It's, like, on a really soft pillow thing, and good, great music on, and like, it's, it's very calm and, and these people are just unbelievably calm and good human beings, um, th- to take you through the experience. And the cool thing about this pump is that you can adjust your altitude. So, like, you could be in the middle of this and say, "I need to go up more. I, I wanna come down." If you need to take a pee break, uh, they'll, like, pull you down. You kind of go onto the runway, and then you go pee, and you come back and you launch right back up as high as you wanna go, as fast as you wanna go. [sniffs] So it's five and a half hours, and we did ... I did one pee break, but it is, it's DMT. Uh, like, the highest you can feel on DMT, like, the most you can see on DMT, but it's five and a half hours of that. And the next time I go back, we're gonna mix Alzheimer's drugs with this.

15. JRJoe Rogan2:24

    Why?

16. CHChase Hughes2:26

    Uh, to see how much I can bring back. To see if it improves, like, the retrieval. Like, 'cause, you know, like, when you, when you're in the DMT space and you're like, "I have access to all this stuff," like, "Oh my God, I wish I could bring this back. I wanna-"

17. JRJoe Rogan2:39

    Right

18. CHChase Hughes2:39

    ... bring this back so bad." And-

19. JRJoe Rogan2:41

    It seems like we're protected from bringing it back.

20. CHChase Hughes2:44

    It does. It does.

21. JRJoe Rogan2:45

    Like a dream.

22. CHChase Hughes2:46

    Yeah.

23. JRJoe Rogan2:47

    It's ... There's v- there's real similar comparisons to the dream state.

24. CHChase Hughes2:51

    Yeah.

25. JRJoe Rogan2:51

    And the dream state is very strange. So I, I've had, like, profound dreams and, or, or really bizarre dreams, and when I wake up, they're so crystal clear. And with... I go to take a pee, I have a cup of coffee-

26. CHChase Hughes3:03

    Yeah

27. JRJoe Rogan3:04

    ... I can't remember them anymore.

28. CHChase Hughes3:05

    Yeah.

29. JRJoe Rogan3:06

    I barely, barely can grip them.

30. CHChase Hughes3:09

    Yeah.

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