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Joe Rogan Experience #2524 - Rupert Lowe

Rupert Lowe is a British politician who has served as the member of Parliament for Great Yarmouth since 2024 and the leader of Restore Britain. Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. onX Offroad: Try onX Offroad for 50% off- go to https://onXmaps.com/joerogan This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE

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Jul 8, 20262h 4mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 0:02

    Intro

    1. JR

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  2. 0:02 – 1:05

    Why Lowe came on: the crowdfunded “Rape Gang Report” and claims of a UK cover-up

    1. JR

      Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. [upbeat music] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music] Thank you for being here. Really appreciate it.

    2. RL

      No, it's my pleasure.

    3. JR

      And thank you to, uh, Brett Weinstein, Jordan Peterson, and Elon Musk for helping connect us. They all three reached out.

    4. RL

      Well, e- we are going to see Elon on Sunday, so he's been an incredible support for us. Uh-

    5. JR

      Yeah

    6. RL

      ... so I d- I don't know how you want to play the... I, I'm totally in your hands. I'll d- h- I'll follow your lead. But I mean, he's been helping us 'cause Britain's in bad shape. And, uh-

    7. JR

      Yeah, and that's why you're here, and this is what we're talking about. We're talking about-

    8. RL

      Well, the rape gang, we've, we've done... This is a-

    9. JR

      The report. There it is

    10. RL

      ... we've crowdfunded this.

    11. JR

      Okay.

    12. RL

      Uh, which I'm very happy to, to talk to you about, which I think-

    13. JR

      Just this title of that, rape gang report.

    14. RL

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      The idea that there's rape, there's actual rape gangs in the UK in 2026, and it's... Is it being ignored? Is it being downplayed? Like, how is it being received by the media and by the politicians over there?

  3. 1:05 – 3:24

    Postwar Europe, the EU project, and multiculturalism as a deliberate strategy

    1. RL

      Well, the history of it is that basically, as you probably know, uh, Britain, after the war, decided they were going to play a part in Europe, a bigger part in Europe. Well, our elite did, the British elite. And to do that, they had to basically diminish the power of the nation state, and they had to head towards this European super state, which is, is the EU. The genesis of which was obviously a monopoly.

    2. JR

      Why did they have to diminish the power of the nation to do that?

    3. RL

      Because I think Britain was a proud nation state. We, we, we... With Eur- with the American help, we'd won the war, and we hadn't been, uh, invaded or conquered, which most of Europe had been. So you'd had mass, uh, dislocation in Europe. Huge numbers of people had been dislocated and pushed all over, all over Europe, and I think the socialists... I was in the European Parliament, so I spent a brief time, uh, as an MEP, uh, a member of the European Parliament, uh, when we finally achieved Bre- well, a kind of Brexit. We can talk about that, but it wasn't a proper Brexit. So I, I, I think the genesis of the rape gangs, going back to this, was the fact that multiculturalism was the order of the day. They wanted open borders. They wanted a multicultural society. They, they, they basically felt the nation state had been the cause of, of world wars, effectively starting with Napoleon. Then obviously we had, uh, the Kaiser, then we had Hitler and, and, and I think they saw it that way, the Monnets, the Spinellis, and the people who constructed the European Union. So to, to, to the rape gang report, which was your question, ultimately that, that, the genesis of that is this multicultural, uh, uh, invasion almost of, of Europe.

    4. JR

      Can I, can I pause you for a second? So w- what you think is that the multicultural invasion, the way, the way it was set up was on purpose, and it was on purpose to sort of diminish the idea of nationalism?

    5. RL

      Yes. I, I think that, that... Well, I'm, I'm, I'm-

    6. JR

      And so this was, like, a long plan. So this was something that they must have had to sit down and, like, who would be involved in this sort of a discussion where you would be willing to diminish patriotism, diminish this idea that Britain by itself is exceptional and the people are exceptional?

    7. RL

      It's a... It was a long, deceitful plan. So I, I always say-

    8. JR

      Who implemented it?

  4. 3:24 – 6:05

    From the euro fight to Brexit: sovereignty, currency, and political control

    1. RL

      The European elites in league with our elite, who effectively, if you remember in 1975, we had what was... We, we joined what was called the European Economic Community. It wasn't, uh, effectively, uh, a- anything other than an economic union. But that, that very quickly, uh, changed, and effectively they tried to politically integrate Europe. That failed, and then in '97, uh, they tried to force it through with the introduction of the euro. So having failed politically, they tried to do it financially. That was my first, uh, uh, foray into standing as a member of Parliament, to fight to save the British pound. 'Cause once you lose your currency, effectively you lose your, your sovereignty and your national identity. And our gold reserves were going to be shipped out to Germany, to Frankfurt, uh, and we would've become a vassal state, part of the European Union. It would've been irreversible. But in the event, we, thanks to Sir James Goldsmith, we secured enough votes. We forced, uh, the establishment to promise a referendum before they surrendered to the, to the euro, and we ended up saving the pound, which in the end resulted in the referendum in 2016 where the British people voted to take back their sovereignty. Which ultimately I think the establishment always knew that the core, the body of Britain, or body of England in particular, wanted its own accountable Parliament in Westminster. It didn't want to be part of a, an unaccountable European socialist protectionist super state.

    2. JR

      So the, uh, quote, unquote, "elites" in, in Britain and the, the elites in the United States, this... It's coordinated with both of them. So you're-

    3. RL

      I think less so in America, Joe. I, I, I, I can't speak for America, although when you look at what the Democrats did, uh, with USAID and all the stuff that was going on, uh, under Joe Biden, you have to wonder whether they began with the World Economic Forum to play a part in this. But I, I think the post-war plan for Europe was founded on a socialist principle, whereas I think America has always been a, a, a very sound, uh, uh, uh, politically based structure based on obviously, uh, you know, the Founding Fathers and your Constitution, which I always think, uh, returns power to the individual and has always understood that the dangers are statist dangers, not individual dangers. So I'm very much in the camp, I like the individual and a minimal state, and I, and I think that's much more in your DNA than it is in the European DNA, which, which tends to be more statist.

    4. JR

      Right. So- They did this on purpose, and they brought in people from what country specifically?

  5. 6:05 – 10:46

    Immigration waves and legal architecture: Tony Blair-era reforms and their consequences

    1. RL

      Well, initially you got, you got in Britain, uh, you got people from Africa, you got the Windrush, uh, generation. So you got a lot of Africans came, uh, ostensibly to fill jobs that they always say the British people don't want to do, and it, it gathered momentum. Uh, it was relatively slow to start with. So you, you, you had an influx of people coming to the UK. You had open borders in Europe. So one of the, the absolute, uh, embedded rules they have is this freedom of movement concept, so they don't have effectively national borders. But we, we still obviously had the, the, the, the Channel, but we embraced this, and we started this, uh, immigration. What happened, uh, is it gradually happened, and I think these rape gangs have been going on, or we know they have s- for 30, 40, probably 50 years to a lesser extent. But when Tony Blair got in and he undermined a lot of constitutional sort of historical law, uh, you got an acceleration of immigration, uh, from other parts of the world, not, not just from Europe, but also from other countries, uh, South Asian countries in particular, who came, uh, to the UK. And the genesis of the rape gangs really is, I think, the cultural oil and water mix of, uh, uh, these people coming from what I call clannish societies in South Asia, uh, and joint- coming to very high-trust societies such as the one we had and the one you have here, which have taken thousands of years to develop to the high-trust societies where... A- And you know, Lee Kuan Yew based Singapore on post-war Britain, where you could h- you had tru- you had honesty boxes for newspapers in London, and you had a country that was completely at peace with itself. Uh, so it won the war, it respected peace, it respected freedom, and people were building, rebuilding their lives, having fought a second world war to, to, to free Europe from, from, from sort of, in this case, Germany. Um, previously we'd done it at Waterloo when we, uh, relieved Europe of, of the French w- with Napoleon. So it's, it really accelerated after '97 when, uh, a lot of the legislation that Tony Blair and his cohorts passed, uh, such as the Hu- Human Rights Act, which embeds within it the ECHR. Uh, he created the Supreme Court. He pa- they passed laws like the Equalities Act, and there are a raft of other legal acts they passed which effectively empowered a multicultural society, uh, which in some ways I think damaged the interests of, of, of the British people. So-

    2. JR

      And you think this is on purpose? And this is my point, is what is the benefit for them to be joined up with the rest of Europe? Is it just purely financial? Is it a power-based strategy where if you can diminish the quality of life for people and institute more laws and put more restrictions on them, you can control them easier, and it's less pushback for the politicians, less pu- pushback for the people that are in charge?

    3. RL

      Basically, yes. I, I think it's the age-old battle between individualism and collectivism. So, so I, I think the EU is a collectivist construct, whereas I think Britain as it was under our constitution and our Bill of Rights, which as you probably know, our, our Bill of Rights in 1689, a lot of that was lifted to, uh, by your Founding Fathers who, who, who embedded it within the US Constitution. So... And that embeds freedom of speech, it embeds the individual, it embeds all of the, all of the rights that I think make the Anglo-Saxon world great. And, and-

    4. JR

      So how did it deteriorate to the point where they're arresting 12,000 people a year for social media posts?

    5. RL

      It's, Joe, it's shocking. A- And this is why I, I have got involved in politics. I've been involved in politics since I fought the Maastricht Treaty and then stood, as I said, in '97. I did a lot for Business for Sterling, a lot for Vote Leave. Then I stood for the Brexit Party, and I was elected there. So I've, I've been fighting this, uh, march towards an unaccountable state which effectively rewards collectivism and punishes individualism, uh, to the extent that now I find myself at the age of 68, uh, as an MP running a party called Restore Britain to try and reverse this tide, to re-empower the individual, to return to our original constitution, and to protect the interests above all else of the, of the British people, to whom I think government should be accountable.

  6. 10:46 – 13:49

    Illegal migration logistics: hotels, benefits, unknown totals, and “mass deportation” plans

    1. JR

      Do they still have that kind of unchecked immigration? Is it currently ongoing?

    2. RL

      We still have illegal migrants arriving by boat. Uh, they can't, they can't be under the current, uh, uh, laws and treaties that we're part of. They are, they are, they're not being deported. The judges, thanks to the creation of the Supreme Court, uh, they, they are now a quango, a woke quango. I think a lot of our judiciary is corrupt. So the answer to your question is we still have illegal migration, and we have people living in Britain illegally. We have a lot of foreign prisons in our, in our, in our, in our prisons, and we have people who've come in under various waves of immigration, one, one of which, the biggest of which was probably under Boris Johnson, who was actually a conservative prime minister, who allowed, uh, uh, thousands, hundreds of thousands of people to come, uh, into Britain. And, uh, basically they are now a burden to the British taxpayer. So the answer to your question is they're arriving illegally still. They're living here illegally, or living in Britain illegally still. Uh, we've got foreign criminals in our prisons, and we've got... We've still got the legacy of this huge amount of, of, of immigration which took place.

    3. JR

      And are a large percentage of these people receiving welfare from-

    4. RL

      Yes

    5. JR

      ... the British government?

    6. RL

      Yes.

    7. JR

      What percentage?

    8. RL

      Well, most of the people who, who arrive, they're all supported, Joe. I mean, they're put in hotel-

    9. JR

      So immediately, as soon as you get there?

    10. RL

      In Parliament I see the contracts, thanks to my parliamentary questions. I'm allowed to ask questions and scrutinize the contracts for, for instance, the MV Stockholm was, it was a boat which cost the British taxpayer one and a half billion pounds. Uh, it's actually now lying redundant, uh, uh, and not being used. But I've seen the contracts for, uh, these illegal migrants in terms of the laundry services they get, in terms of the-

    11. JR

      Laundry services [laughs]

    12. RL

      ... taxi services they get, in terms of the food they require. I mean, literally it is like, uh, uh, it's like staying in a very comfortable hotel. And we've now got these people being settled all across our country-

    13. JR

      How many?

    14. RL

      ... uh, in hotels. Well, I don't think the government knows, Joe, in answer to your question. I don't think they know how many people are living in Britain illegally.

    15. JR

      Was the similar situation that America had over the last four years where the, at, on the low number they think it was 10 million people came in, which is insane. It's a, a insane amount of people to come in in four years. Was-

    16. RL

      Well, w- we think there's enough work to do initially to detain and deport people who are arriving illegally. I mean, to my mind, illegal means illegal.

    17. JR

      Right.

    18. RL

      So it's, it's, it's, it's fairly straightforward. Um, to, uh, the people who are, uh, arriving illegally, people living here illegally, the foreign criminals, there's plenty of work to do to remove them from Britain. And then I think we need to turn our attention, and that's in our mass deportation document, uh, uh, I've given you a copy of that, which effectively sets out the constitutional reasons why we have a problem, how we correct those constitutional issues, and how we then practically, uh, detain and deport, uh, the people who aren't

  7. 13:49 – 17:32

    Parallel society concerns: Sharia courts, integration failures, and cultural incompatibility arguments

    1. RL

      supposed to be here. And once we've done that, we'll, we will then turn our attention to people who are living in Britain, to your point, who are on welfare, who are going to cost the taxpayer a fortune for the rest of their lives probably, who aren't working, who are culturally different to us, who have a different view of, of, of, of, of their religion to the Christian religion, uh, and are increasingly living in, in, in small groups of people who haven't integrated, who are living under Sharia law and, and who have their own courts, and, and who-

    2. JR

      They have their own courts?

    3. RL

      They have their own courts, Sharia courts, yes.

    4. JR

      So the-

    5. RL

      Parallel, a parallel legal system.

    6. JR

      Okay, so it's a unrecognized by the British government parallel legal system that exists inside of England.

    7. RL

      It's tolerated by-

    8. JR

      Tolerated.

    9. RL

      It's tolerated.

    10. JR

      So it's, they're aware of it.

    11. RL

      Yes.

    12. JR

      And they're aware of the punishments that this court dishes out?

    13. RL

      They... It, it's rather like they're policing their own people under their own laws.

    14. JR

      And they're just allowing that.

    15. RL

      They're, they're allowing that, yeah.

    16. JR

      Whoa.

    17. RL

      Now, now I believe, I don't know about you, but I believe if you come to our country, you should live under our laws and you-

    18. JR

      Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, the idea of... Well, United States in particular is a melting pot, and, you know, people come from all over the place, and it's one of the cool things that there's all these different cultures. But there's certain cultures that if you allow them to come into your community, and then they institute the laws of the country where they came from, you're gonna have a real problem. Like, they don't live the way you live. They don't have the same respect for women that you have. They don't treat them the same way. They don't allow dogs. Like, there's a lot of like-

    19. RL

      That's right

    20. JR

      ... stuff that a lot of people might not even be aware that come with that problem. It's like the idea is supposed to be that Western society is inclusive and progressive because we're intelligent and educated and we care. But you c- you can care so much that you let in criminals, and then you give those criminals all your money, and then the criminals can take over your country slowly but surely. So, and this is the... No one thinks that's a possible thing. No... Ev- People look at the Colosseum, you look at ancient Greece, and they, they think, "Wow, I wonder what happened to those guys." What do you think happened? Probably the same shit that's happening right now to England, the same shit that could have happened to America. It's w- civilizations fall apart for various reasons, and, uh, one great way to get 'em to fall apart is to bring in a bunch of people, and they don't have to follow your laws, and they bring the laws of, you know, wherever they're from. Whatever, whatever fundamentalist religion country they're from, where they have a bunch of crazy laws that are kind of archaic.

    21. RL

      Well, this is Sharia law, Islamic law, as you probably know. I mean, again, to your point, uh, I, I think the best example, uh, uh, I can, I can give people of what happens if you do that is, is, is when Beirut... when Lebanon got its, got its independence in, in 1948, uh, they were a Christian country, and they were a very confident country. They, they were a, uh, you know, uh, they had the best universities. They had a very open society. I never went to Beirut. I don't know if you, you went to Beirut, but Beirut in the '60s was meant to be the best place on Earth to be. Great wine, uh, freedom, uh, very en- very enlightened. Uh, it was a great... Lots of people, uh, uh, were there. The minute that the Muslim population went over about 15%, you started to get a problem with a civil war. You got the Druze and Maronite Christians, uh, in a, in, in a, in a civil war with, with the Muslims. Uh, and now Lebanon is, is, is a Muslim country. Uh, uh, and Hezbollah, backed by Iran, is effectively

  8. 17:32 – 45:25

    How the report was built: testimonies, hearings, missing transcripts, and the data vacuum

    1. RL

      running the show. So, so, uh, to your point, I couldn't agree more. In the rape gang report, which I, which, which, which is, wh- which we've written- Was crowdfunded by 20,000 concerned English people who, who, uh ... We, we raised not a huge amount of money. We raised, uh, about £600,000, f- in varying quantities people gave, and we did it because the government will not have a statutory inquiry. So our government, and particularly the Labour Party, have been presiding over this because it goes to the Muslim block vote. So we have in, in the UK a system of postal voting, and in a lot of the inner cities and, and the places where these Islamic populations live, they are or have historically voted Labour. That's beginning to change. They're beginning to vote for Muslim independence now, and I sit with some of them at the back of Parliament. So, so effectively, this, this inquiry we did, we set out with a completely unbiased, uh, view of what we would find, and we did it because we were pushing the government to have a statutory inquiry. And I, I, I ... A lot of the reason I'm got involved in it was I, I, I, I think it was Elon Musk who triggered. He, he, he talked about it 'cause a lot of people in the UK I don't think know the extent to which this has been happening and for, and, and, and the length of time it's been happening for.

    2. JR

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    3. RL

      Well, it's a total failure, failure of the media 'cause the media are supposed to be an independent body that holds to account, uh, failures of, of the state, and it's basically because this block vote, uh, through the postal voting system, which needs to be changed, uh, is effectively or has been, uh, keeping Lab- the Labour Party in, in power. So they've put power ahead of principle. And in the report, we cover this. We've covered the reasons why it's so serious and, and to your point, we even cover, as you quite rightly say, the fact that, uh, dogs are, a- a- are not liked by, by, by, by the Islamic faith, largely 'cause Muhammad liked cats. He didn't like dogs. Um, um, and we, we ... What we wanted to do was interview victims, which we did. We did it properly. It took us over a year. We had a, a, a, a, a rape gang victim, Sammy Woodhouse, who, who, who led it. She's got a child by her rapist. Uh, and we had a team of people, and we literally produced the witness bundles, and we, and we listened to, uh, the witnesses, and then we had a two-week hearing in London where people gave evidence, and we had a, a, a proper, uh, barrister who effectively, uh, presided over it and then help- helped us write the report. So effectively Graham Smith, the, the barrister, did a fantastic job. And we didn't start out with any preconceived ideas. It started because we read some court transcripts of some of the people who've been found guilty of, of this, which the government, by the way, has tried to keep quiet. Some of the historical, uh, uh, court transcripts disappear, so, uh, we've been calling for these transcripts to be kept now. We've actually, uh, tried to make a noise about that. And the more we read this and the more we carried on with the rape gang, uh, inquiry, the more it became clear to us that obviously there's a link between this, this power a- and, and the b- the abuse and, and, and, and grooming and, and, and if you like, damage that was done to white working-class English girls, and it does go ... And, and in the report we've, we've looked at the reasons why, to your point, there is a cultural difference of opinion between an open, high-trust Christian view of women particularly and, and the Islamic view of women, which is all in the report. So for instance, the, as you probably know, uh, uh, uh, if a woman accuses, uh, somebody of rape ... Uh, and a lot of these Muslims come from Pakistan, Joe. They're, they're predominantly Pakistan, and they're predominantly, uh, from one part of Pakistan called Mirpur. Uh, there are some from Bangladesh. There are some from Somalia. There are some from Eritrea. There, there, there are other, other Muslim countries that, that perpetrate some of this, and of course there are white people who perpetrate rape as well, but nothing on the scale of this. This is, this is quite horrific. And our, our report has effectively uncovered this. I think we've played a part with this report in the government saying that they're going to have now a statutory inquiry 'cause we didn't have any statutory powers to be able to, uh, force people to appear at our hearing, and they all appeared voluntarily. The government can actually force people legally to appear. They can actually, uh, uh, make it a legal requirement that people attend. We, we, we couldn't do that. But there had been reports in the past. Uh, there was the Jay Report in, in, in, in 2014, and there's been the Casey Report, all of which confirmed that this was happening, and the state still continued to try and pretend it was just happening in a small number of siloed areas, uh, where, where you obviously had a high Islamic population. The state has equally failed to collect data on the crimes that are perpetrated, say, the ethnicity of, of the people who are perpetrating the crimes, and from there you can extrapolate once you've got the data as to whether or not you've got an extraordinary problem in one particular section of society. And, and again, using my parliamentary questions, I've been forcing, uh, uh, as much disclosure as I can get, and this is how we've discovered that a lot of the data that should be being collected by the police particularly, by the National Health Service, by social services, a lot of the data has not been properly collected. Possibly because the state does, I think, know that this is happening, but they don't want to admit that their multicultural experiment, which as you probably know, famously Enoch Powell warned would fail, uh, with his speech, the, the Rivers of Blood speech, for which he was heavily criticized. So I, I think they do know, but they don't want to admit it. They don't want to be called racist. Uh, they don't want to... And this has permeated the whole of British society since Tony Blair. People are frightened to be accused of, uh, effectively being biased and white, and we're taught about things, as you probably... I don't know whether you have it here, unconscious bias and, and all of the other sort of what I call-

    4. JR

      Yeah

    5. RL

      ... woke, woke, DEI-driven, uh, rubbish, which, which has permeated Britain in the same way. I think it may have originally come from, from you guys, but it's-

    6. JR

      Yeah

    7. RL

      ... it's, it's certainly had a huge effect on us.

    8. JR

      I think it had a great grip on us for a few years, and it's l- lessened its hold.

    9. RL

      Well, thanks to The Donald, yeah.

    10. JR

      Yeah, that helped a lot, and y- I think a big part of it was Elon buying Twitter-

    11. RL

      Yeah, yeah

    12. JR

      ... where you got legitimate free speech, and which is again, back to this 12,000 people getting arrested, uh, each year for social media posts recently. Like that is... How is that tolerated? I just don't understand how people aren't... I w- I was about to say up in arms, but that's also part of the problem, is that no one's armed over there.

    13. RL

      We, we, we aren't. We, well, I have actually got some guns, Joe-

    14. JR

      Oh, you get to go?

    15. RL

      ... 'cause I, I have a farm.

    16. JR

      Oh.

    17. RL

      So when you come to the UK, I hope you'll come and shoot some pheasants with me.

    18. JR

      Oh.

    19. RL

      Uh, but, um-

    20. JR

      But if you don't have a farm...

    21. RL

      Uh, well, if you don't have a farm, you, you'll find it very difficult to get a gun of any kind.

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. RL

      And even if you have a farm, so, uh, Reform tried to politically assassinate me, uh, uh, in, in, in, in '25, early '25, and made false accusations about me threatening to hit one of the, the... Zia Yusuf in a meeting, and somebody was saying I went around Parliament saying I was a very good shot and I was gonna shoot Zia Yusuf. I mean, as if you believe that. I'm, I'm... I've got a completely clean record. I employ lots of people. I have lots of businesses, and I've never had an issue. But listen, four armed police turned up, took all my guns away. I mean-

    24. JR

      Wow

    25. RL

      ... and I'm a member of Parliament. I said to them, "Guys-

    26. JR

      Wow

    27. RL

      ... you could have just called me up and we could have talked about it," but no.

    28. JR

      Wow.

    29. RL

      They turned up, uh-

    30. JR

      Just from an accusation

  9. 45:25 – 53:40

    Scope and allegations: estimate of victims, nationwide spread, and organized criminal networks

    1. JR

      This, so this rape gang inquiry report that you have just released, the, the number, I want you to say it 'cause it sounds so crazy if I say it, n- people, it, it's, it's gonna sound wrong. What, the number of people that were victims, the estimate.

    2. RL

      Well, we've estimated that a minimum of a quarter of a million, uh, uh, rapes have taken place. It's, it- it's probably much, much more, Joe.

    3. JR

      Much, much more you're saying.

    4. RL

      Because, because, because we published in here, I think it's a list of 147 parts of the UK where this is happening. Now, the government tries to tell you it's happening in Rochdale, Oldham, you know, one or two, Bradford, one or two centers, and that's why their statutory inquiry, the terms of reference of that have now been downgraded. So they make it look as if it's not a systemic problem, but just a, a, a little local problem, which it isn't. So we've, we've listed here, and they're all in here, the places where we know it's happening from our rape gang inquiry. But every, every time we publish this, Joe, I, I [chuckles] get people emailing us or sending us messages on social media to say, "What about Red Ruth in Cornwall? What about... It's happening here. It's happening here. It's happening here." So I, I think it's incredibly widespread and, and there's, you know, other people who've corroborated that quarter of a million figure. That's an incredibly conservative figure. You can't be exact because the state is not collecting the data, which it should be doing, and we've been lobbying in Parliament to make sure that the state's collection of the data improves, and then we can actually see the extent of the problem, and you can actually pinpoint it, uh, in the same way that we've done it in this report. S- so, so this is, I think it's linked to organized crime. I think it's linked to the drug trade. Uh, I'm, I'm pretty sure it's linked to the drug trade and, and obviously it's linked to prostitution. So, so as usual, with an evil like this, and you've got girls who are transported round in the back of pickups, uh, uh, uh, and, and, and in cages, uh, and, and at our rape gang inquiry, we had examples of girls who were raped by dogs, uh, and filmed, uh, either anally raped or, or, or vaginally raped, uh, and literally watched, filmed. And, and a lot of it's about servitude and about, you know... Uh, there's other stories in here about women having to lick the face, the feet of their, of their rapists. It, it's, it's about power, it's about servitude, and it's about the fact that Muslim men are, are taught to believe that they are superior, not only to women, but they're superior to people like you, yourself and myself who are considered to be, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, if you like, the, the infidels. And, and their job is to effectively spread, uh, uh, Islam, uh, and effectively punish the infidel. And, and as you probably know, in the Crusades, if you lost to Saladin and you were a Knights Templar, a Crusader, you, you had two choices. You either converted to Islam or they killed you. And, and in, in the, in the case of a lot of these girls, a, a lot of them were Made pregnant. They were, they were impregnated and, and they then had to convert to Islam. Uh, some of them were trafficked to Saudi Arabia, uh, uh, Pakistan, other parts of the world. So look, I mean, this, this is a massive national scandal, and, and I, I'm hoping, now I'm an MP, we've written this report, and this should stimulate debate. I've... We sent a copy of this on a PDF to every MP, and we're gonna send this printed copy to, to all of them as well.

    5. JR

      You-

    6. RL

      'Cause everybody in power should look at this, and they should start to correct it immediately.

    7. JR

      You, you, you use the term, or the term is used, rape gang. Why, why are you saying gang? And it... This is an organized practice.

    8. RL

      Yes. Yes, so it's, so-

    9. JR

      So it's not as, it's not as simple as Islamic men are raping poor white girls. It's that they go out in gangs specifically for this purpose.

    10. RL

      They... These are properly organized gangs who are grooming and abusing young girls as young as 10 or 11, and then literally trafficking them around the country. We know that from, from, from, from the testimonies we've had. So originally, when I went into Parliament, I was, I was late, uh, elected late, so I was elected in, in July 24. Uh, so at the tender age of 67. So I, so I, I... We, w- we heard them being referred to as Asian grooming gangs, which I think is a misnomer because it's unfair on, for instance, the Japanese or other-

    11. JR

      Right

    12. RL

      ... other, other Asian cultures who don't do this. So when we... Thanks to Elon Musk, we actually did, and, and as you're quite right, thanks to him giving us a free speech platform, and, and Facebook's thankfully followed as well, so he's led the charge through his purchase of, of, of what was Twitter. So when I got into... I gave a speech in Parliament, uh, where I didn't... I said, "They're not Asian grooming gangs. I'm gonna call them what they are. They're Pakistani Muslim rape gangs." So I said this in Parliament, so, uh, Jamie better drag it up if, if he goes onto the, you know, 'cause everything goes into Hansard. Uh, and I gave this speech, and it caused shock in, in, in, in the House of Commons. Now, look, I'm, I'm not the smartest kid on the block, but what I do in Parliament is I tell the truth. So, you know, I'm only interested in telling the truth and getting to the truth and changing the way in which we're governed. That's what I've gone into Parliament for. You know, I, I haven't gone into this... I give my parliamentary salary to charity. You know, I'm a reasonably successful, uh, person who's lived his life. I've, I've been chairman of a football club. I don't know if you're interested in Premier League football, but I was chairman of Southampton, so I built the stadium for Southampton. You know, I used to play competitive hockey. Uh, and I, and I built up the youth academy at Southampton. You know, I loved... The best day of my life was when we got to the cup final in 2003. We lost one-nil to Arsenal, but it was the most amazing experience for, for everybody. So look, I, I'm not doing this because I, I, I want necessarily to be doing it. I'm doing it 'cause somebody's got to do it, and if we're gonna change Britain, we've got to get the public to buy into what we're doing. And as I, I, I say, I'm not a classic politician. I'm not saying you've got to vote for me. I'm saying that we've got to change Britain by '29, or I think the country, from what I can see, is in terminal decline. So I sit on the Public Accounts Committee. I see the waste. I see the unaccountability. I see the way in which the civil service does not serve the people which it's supposed to serve. I see our debt rising to nearly 100% of GDP. I see massive, uh, uh, misallocation of procurement on our, on our weapons. I see fraud in the judiciary. I see all the things that-

    13. JR

      Sounds like you're talking about America

    14. RL

      ... Well, I'm talking about-

    15. JR

      [laughs]

    16. RL

      I'm talking about Britain-

    17. JR

      All right

    18. RL

      ... at the moment, Joe, but I think-

    19. JR

      It seems like it's a widespread problem is what the point is

    20. RL

      ... Well, I actually, I actually think America, uh, under Joe Biden probably was, was as bad as that, and if you look at what, you know, Elon and the boys uncovered with, with-

    21. JR

      Doge

    22. RL

      ... with USAID and, and, uh-

    23. JR

      Oh, it's crazy

    24. RL

      ... all of the, all the misallocation of taxpayer funds-

    25. JR

      Yes

    26. RL

      ... all over the world. A lot of it to England.

    27. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    28. RL

      Some of it came to woke, woke causes in England.

    29. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    30. RL

      So look, whoever the architects of this are, whether it's the World Economic Forum, whoever they are, whether it's the Bilderbergers, whether it's the Council on Foreign Relations, whether it's... Whatever malign influence is trying to do this, we, we have to collectively try and reverse it. So I'm, I'm saying to people, "If you want, I will do my damnedest to reverse it." You know, I've run multiple businesses. Uh, I, I was in the city of London for 20 years, so I know about finance, and I will commit to doing whatever I can to reverse this-

  10. 53:40 – 58:35

    Media, policing, and political incentives: Labour, block voting, BBC silence, and two-tier enforcement claims

    1. JR

      Are there people that are in denial that this is happening, that this rape gang problem is real?

    2. RL

      Oh, without a shadow of a doubt. Labor-

    3. JR

      And what, what do they say?

    4. RL

      Well, Labor just tries to look the other way.

    5. JR

      But when confronted, when confronted by the numbers, what is their response?

    6. RL

      Well, we've been demanding a, a statutory inquiry, uh, and in the end, we crowdfunded this.

    7. JR

      Right. What is their response to that?

    8. RL

      Well, their response to this has been pretty muted, to be frank. I mean, the BBC haven't covered it at all.

    9. JR

      Really?

    10. RL

      A national monopolistic broadcaster paid for by a compulsory fee have not covered this as a, as a matter of public interest, nor have Sky, uh, nor, nor properly have The Daily Telegraph. GB News have covered a tiny... Patrick Christys covered one evening of it. Now, this, this is a massive national scandal that deserves complete, a complete and utter airing.

    11. JR

      How does the BBC justify not discussing this? At the very-

    12. RL

      Well, the BBC's, BBC's part of our problem, Joe. So to, to your point about, you know, the Democrats, the BBC is a deeply malign organization. So it was set up- Uh, to inform, educate, and entertain. And it was set up by a man called Reith. And, and, and, and Reith was a highly principled man, and I think at the time it was set up in the, in, in the '20s, it was... it probably, uh, did have a role. But in the digital age, where most of the young people no longer watch, uh, uh, their news on the BBC, they get their news from whatever their favorite news channel is, um, whether it's Breitbart, whoever, whoever they go-

    13. JR

      Mm

    14. RL

      ... and get it from, they get it from somewhere else. But if you wanna watch sport or you wanna, you know, basically have your TV, you have to pay the TV license.

    15. JR

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    16. RL

      Yep.

    17. JR

      And in their mind, they don't understand the internet completely. They don't go on Twitter. And so all that stuff to them is just, it's just too fringe. So th- that's always gonna be a problem, and if someone like the BBC doesn't cover this stuff, it... for a lot of people that are woefully ignorant, they can still kind of claim that ignorance and dismiss it because the BBC isn't covering it.

    18. RL

      That's exactly right. I mean, that's a, that's a very good summary because the BBC historically was totally trusted and, and their news bulletins were designed, as I say, to be impartial completely. And, and being a public sector broadcaster, their job was to cover matters like this and, and create debate. But as we know, uh, monopolies go bad. I mean, monopolies, in my view, are generally a bad thing, particularly in the digital age where, you know, and thanks to Elon Musk and, and, and what he did with, with X, I th- I think he has released, uh, free speech. I think he has, uh, uh, returned some sort of semblance of, of, of people's ab- ability to be able to force debate without being bullied by a monopoly like the BBC.

    19. JR

      Right.

    20. RL

      So, so if I ever get near power, I will responsibly defund the BBC as one of the first things I do. I think the BBC is, is dripping poison into the veins of Britain every day.

    21. JR

      What other examples of what the BBC is doing do you think is dripping poison?

  11. 58:35 – 1:18:54

    Woke institutions and ideological roots: Fabian Society, universities, and the “collectivism vs individualism” frame

    1. RL

      Well, I think a lot of their coverage is, is, is not objective. It's woke. I, I mean, they're into all this DEI. They're into, uh, uh, obviously the LGBTQ+. They're into all of the, all of the things which I think we, as we said earlier, probably came from this, uh, Democrat period. But it's been happening for a long time. I th- I think if you look at the Labour Party, again, uh, uh, I don't know if you've ever heard of the Fabian Society.

    2. JR

      No.

    3. RL

      So the Fabian Society is, uh, was set up in the, in, in the 1880s, and it, it was basically most of the Labour frontbench and most of the Labour Party are members of the Fabian Society. So the Fabian Society, George Bernard Shaw was a member of the Fab- Fabian Society. You'll, you'll have heard of George Be- George Bernard Shaw. So he... It's the most extraordinary organization that their emblem is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

    4. JR

      Pa.

    5. RL

      As if, as if, as if that doesn't tell you what they're doing.

    6. JR

      That's their emblem?

    7. RL

      So I-

    8. JR

      Can I see what that looks like?

    9. RL

      That's their emblem. It's a wolf-

    10. JR

      I need to see this

    11. RL

      ... in sheep's clothing.

    12. SP

      Uh, what?

    13. JR

      Fabian Society?

    14. RL

      The Fabian Society.

    15. JR

      I need to see that.

    16. RL

      You should have a look at that.

    17. JR

      I might have to get a T-shirt.

    18. RL

      And should I tell you what, what else they were?

    19. JR

      I, I need a T-shirt. I need-

    20. RL

      Should I tell you what else they were?

    21. JR

      [laughs]

    22. RL

      They were eugenicists originally.

    23. JR

      Whoa.

    24. RL

      Yes.

    25. JR

      When?

    26. RL

      Well-

    27. JR

      How far back?

    28. RL

      Bernard Shaw, George Bernard Shaw was a eugenicist.

    29. JR

      Look at... That, that is damn crazy.

    30. RL

      Well, everyone should look at the Fabian Society 'cause that runs deep through the veins of Labour.

  12. 1:18:54 – 1:39:44

    COVID-era compliance and trust collapse: lockdown culture, vaccines, and censorship narratives

    1. RL

      But I do think, I think the young were also badly affected by the COVID, by the response to COVID, uh, Joe. And I, I, I think you and I share something in common. I'm a pureblood. I, I haven't, I didn't have those-

    2. JR

      Pureblood's hilarious. [laughs]

    3. RL

      I didn't have those, I didn't have those injections. I, I wouldn't go anywhere near them. And-

    4. JR

      How did you get away f- with that in the UK?

    5. RL

      Well, I used to go to-

    6. JR

      It must've been quite difficult

    7. RL

      ... Australia a lot, so, so I, uh, 'cause I have some businesses in Perth, in Western Australia. I l- I love those old rocks in Western Australia, the, you know, the mining, the, the, the sort of Wild West, and Kalgoorlie and places like that, you know, um, which have got a huge historical, uh, connection to sort of gold prospecting and stuff. So I stopped going, I stopped traveling, because it was very difficult to travel. But I, I, I don't know about you, I found the lockdown profoundly concerning. I thought, I thought things that I thought were nor- the norm, I was losing everything that made sense.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. RL

      And, you know, there were things happening that I didn't think could ever happen in Britain. Uh, you know, the state literally took over-

    10. JR

      Yeah

    11. RL

      ... and it frightened people into submission. And this-

    12. JR

      Same as America

    13. RL

      ... and the young people suffered most because, you know, they didn't have the opportunity to socialize and to, to your point, discuss ideas and, and, and, and get at the truth. They, they-

    14. JR

      Right

    15. RL

      ... were literally locked up. Everything was online. It wasn't, uh, it wasn't right. The whole thing was completely wrong. And, um-

    16. JR

      Yeah, imagine if you're in high school in America, and you're in California, your entire senior year you're, you're at home. You graduate, you can't even go to a graduation 'cause it's too dangerous.

    17. RL

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      The whole, the whole thing was madness, you know?

    19. RL

      Well, Sweden, Sweden got it right. Anders Tegnell-

    20. JR

      Yes

    21. RL

      ... in Sweden, he, he was a, he was a great man, very brave man, and he got, he got that right.

    22. JR

      And boy, there, was there a lot of pushback. It was amazing how many people were willing to do the work of the government, how many citizens were willing to enforce these ideas. It, it was really shocking. It was shocking to watch how many people became lemmings, how many people just stepped in line.

    23. RL

      We had people ratting on each other.

    24. JR

      Yeah. Oh, we did it, and-

    25. RL

      Because, because people-

    26. JR

      They were rewarding people in Los Angeles

    27. RL

      Yeah. Yeah, we-

    28. JR

      They were giving them financial rewards for telling on their neighbors that were having parties

    29. RL

      That's what happened in England.

    30. JR

      Psh.

  13. 1:39:44 – 2:04:05

    What change would take: laws, quangos, jury trials, elections, and a 2029 deadline

    1. JR

      ... what would you do to stop this? Like, imagine if you got into power right now. What would you do to put a stop to that?

    2. RL

      Well, we have to root it out, and we have to stop it.

    3. JR

      How do you root it out?

    4. RL

      We have to apply the law, the, the, the law of our land-

    5. JR

      Right

    6. RL

      ... to the people who are perpetrating it. The problem is the police have institutionally been, been taught that they are racist. Uh, and we had the Stephen Lawrence killing, uh, which was, which was... didn't reflect well on the UK, but the response to it has created this fear of being, being, being called a racist.

    7. JR

      Which is the Stephen Lawrence killing?

    8. RL

      The Stephen Lawrence killing, I think it was in, it, it, it was, it was in late '90s. He was, he was, he was stabbed by some, uh, sort of British, uh, miscreants. Um, and-

    9. JR

      And where was he from?

    10. RL

      ... and he died. He... It was, it was in London.

    11. JR

      Where was Stephen Lawrence from? What was he-

    12. RL

      Well, he was a, he was a Black, a Black boy.

    13. JR

      Oh, okay.

    14. RL

      North, North shore.

    15. JR

      So it's a racial hate crime?

    16. RL

      Yeah, it was a racial hate crime.

    17. JR

      Okay, and this is in the '90s?

    18. RL

      And it was blown up. And again, you, you find that the racial hate crime involving any white people is now blown up, whereas the more... The, the very often and increasingly common, uh, uh, acts against the indigenous white people are hushed up as much as they possibly can be.

    19. JR

      That's a funny thing to say, indigenous white people.

    20. RL

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      And what I mean is real for England, but I mean, nobody thinks about that in America. You would never say, like, indigenous white people. [laughs]

    22. RL

      Well, we, we, we, we do have a, an identity, Joe.

    23. JR

      Yes, of course. There's a reason why everyone's so pale.

    24. RL

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    25. JR

      It's, it's England. [laughs]

    26. RL

      We, we do, we do have an identity. But I think-

    27. JR

      It really is indigenous

    28. RL

      ... as I say, we've been very tolerant and, uh, of, of people who've needed help.

    29. JR

      Right.

    30. RL

      We've let them into the country. And on the whole, they have integrated, and they have contributed.

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