Joe Rogan Experience #2527 - MrBeast

1. 0:02 – 1:14

   Recruiting contestants: why time off work is the real barrier

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music] It must be very easy to get people to do your show.

   2. MRMrBeast0:16

      Uh, well, I mean, yeah, seeing how we give away millions of dollars, it's-

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Oh. [laughs]

   4. MRMrBeast0:20

      Yeah, usually [laughs] people are very excited about it. The actual, the, uh, the, the only hard part for us is, you know, if it's a longer one, just the time off work, so. 'Cause sometimes like-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      Oh, right. Right

   6. MRMrBeast0:29

      ... when we shoot like Beast Games or stuff, you know, it can go for a month. But besides the work stuff, of course.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:34

      Does it, d- are there people that haven't been able to do the show 'cause they couldn't get a month off work?

   8. MRMrBeast0:38

      Oh, yeah, tons. Of course.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:39

      Oh, wow.

   10. MRMrBeast0:39

       So we always have like a... Even like the day before, you know, sometimes people will get cold feet. So if we're doing something with 100 people, we'll usually have 10 backups just because, you know, the, the people-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       I would imagine that the type of person that would do your show would have a job that they could quit. [laughs]

   12. MRMrBeast0:54

       [laughs] Well, uh, yeah, I mean, I guess it depends, right? Whether it's the YouTube channel where we're-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       Yeah

   14. MRMrBeast0:59

       ... you know, doing, um, you know, 100 families compete for $250,000, or it's Beast Games where they're competing for 5 million. The 5 million, people are way more excited for. Some of the, you know, the YouTube videos, it's not as like grandiose where they're like, "Uh, I don't know if I wanna lose my job for a 1% chance of winning 250K," so.

2. 1:14 – 1:38

   Beast Games goes global: one contestant from every country

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:14

      Well, how many people, when you do Beast Games, how many people are competing?

   2. MRMrBeast1:17

      Uh, so the newest season we just shot, we, uh, grabbed one person from, uh, every country on earth, so it was around 200.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:23

      Whoa.

   4. MRMrBeast1:23

      Yeah. Which I, was actually pretty cool because you would put them in these like crazy games, and you'd see how someone from like the Asian p- you know, Pacific countries would react versus to like someone in South America, and they play and think so differently 'cause they have such different upbringing. So-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:36

      Oh

   6. MRMrBeast1:36

      ... it was really cool.

3. 1:38 – 3:55

   Vetting, background checks, and letting countries vote on their representative

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:38

      Did you have to... I mean, you must have had to thoroughly vet these people, right?

   2. MRMrBeast1:42

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:42

      Make sure they're not insane.

   4. MRMrBeast1:43

      Uh, actually, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:44

      Make sure they're not, you know, a serial killer.

   6. MRMrBeast1:46

      Obviously we do the, y- we do the psych and background checks, of course. No serial killers.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:48

      How do you get that information if you're g- going... I mean, if you have... How many countries are there, first of all? Is it 190?

   8. MRMrBeast1:55

      We went off of whatever the Olympics do, so it's, it's like 100, something around 200. Yeah, plus or minus a couple.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:01

      So some of them have to have some shitty infrastructure.

   10. MRMrBeast2:04

       Oh, I mean, I think one of them has literally 40,000 people living in it. Like, it was, uh, what is it? Not the, uh, something C Islands. Not the Cayman Islands. It was, but some island country, and yeah, I was like, wow. Like, my town-

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       Wow

   12. MRMrBeast2:17

       ... which has 100,000 people, is two and a half times the population of your country.

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       [laughs]

   14. MRMrBeast2:20

       Well, I was joking with the contestant because I was like, "If you win the $5 million, you could technically give a $200 dividend to every single person in your country." It's like, it's that crazy that it's that little people living there.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:30

       Wow.

   16. MRMrBeast2:31

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:32

       That's the kind of country where you're like, I wonder if you could buy that country.

   18. MRMrBeast2:35

       Mm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:36

       You know?

   20. MRMrBeast2:36

       I mean, the GDP is probably, you know, a couple hundred million dollars if I were to guess.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:40

       Right. Like someone like Elon or someone like that could buy a country.

   22. MRMrBeast2:42

       Not even Elon. There's probably thousands of people in America that could. I mean, I feel bad, people from that country listening that we, us just talking about-

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:48

       Well, we didn't say the country.

   24. MRMrBeast2:49

       Okay, true, true.

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:50

       We're good. We're good. We didn't say it.

   26. MRMrBeast2:51

       Yeah, exactly. It's, it, it's not yours.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:52

       But they should know what they are.

   28. MRMrBeast2:54

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:54

       That they are, they're a country of 40,000 people. That's just what it is.

   30. MRMrBeast2:57

       Yeah.
4. 3:55 – 4:46

   What Beast Games is: ramping reality TV to maximum scale and payout

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:55

      How did you come up with the concept for this show? Like what...

   2. MRMrBeast3:58

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:58

      First of all, how the fuck do you have time-

   4. MRMrBeast4:00

      [laughs] Yeah

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:00

      ... to do that show as well as do your YouTube show?

   6. MRMrBeast4:04

      Yeah. Uh, I just don't sleep much during those, 'cause like Beast Games basically is 30 days of just, you know, 18 hours a day filming. And so, and for people who might not have heard of it, it's essentially the largest cash prize of any show in the world. Uh, season one we had the most contestants of any show in the world, and the largest sets of any show ever to exist. And I was just like, what if you take like a reality show, but you just ramp everything up to the absolute maximum. And like, uh, like season one we gave away $22 million-

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:30

      Whoa

   8. MRMrBeast4:30

      ... just in one season, right? And you know, some of the biggest game shows in the world right now give away $250,000. Like we're-

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:36

      Yeah

   10. MRMrBeast4:36

       ... giving away $2 million every episode. Yeah, like-

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:38

       Look at that. That's wild.

   12. MRMrBeast4:39

       It's, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:39

       All those pe- That's so crazy. That set's amazing, dude.

   14. MRMrBeast4:42

       Yep, and then we, we build a city. And so also-

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:44

       Holy shit

5. 4:46 – 6:05

   The 1,200-camera approach: reducing producer scripting by capturing everything

   1. MRMrBeast4:46

      ... my, my whole thesis behind it with, uh, this is, you know, you, when you watch these, you know, game shows or reality shows, there's a lot of takeaways and like after the show they'll put people in a room and they'll be like, "Hey, talk about what happened here," and it's like intercut. And I was like, well, what if we just have 1,000 cameras and we just let people be themselves, and we kinda just show it in real time? So we also, like in season one we broke the world record of most cameras ever used in any production of any movie, show, anything ever. So like this set right here, there's over 1,200 cameras in there.

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:16

      Whoa. [laughs]

   3. MRMrBeast5:17

      And, and the most-

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:17

      That room is so big. [laughs]

   5. MRMrBeast5:19

      Yeah, it's, it's bigger than the football field. And so there's 1,000 contestants. We have to have an A cam on all of them, so there's like a, a pole on each of the platforms on them, plus there's hundreds of cameras in the roof and blah, blah. I think there's over 1,200 here, which outside of this, the most ever used in a production was 400. So like, I, I literally had to... And, and this might seem insane, but this is why I think the show appeals to quite a few people, because normally in a show they would have a story producer walk up to you, hold a camera and be like, "All right, you got three minutes. You're kind of the bad guy. Say roughly along these lines." Almost basically put words in your mouth. And then they'd go like person to person with like one camera. Whereas I go on the microphone, I go, "Say whatever the hell you want. We're recording you for the next 10 hours. I don't care," right? And you all have a dedicated camera on you. So then instead of like putting words in people's mouths, they can just do whatever they want.

6. 6:05 – 8:18

   Editing, infrastructure, and the cost of building a city-sized set

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:05

      So do you have someone who actually has to go back and watch all that footage and edit it?

   2. MRMrBeast6:09

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:09

      And then put it all out as a show?

   4. MRMrBeast6:11

      Yeah, exact- well, this is why-

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:12

      How many people do you have doing your editing?

   6. MRMrBeast6:15

      Uh, that sh- uh, season, over 150 editors worked on it, yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:18

      Holy shit, man.

   8. MRMrBeast6:19

      Yeah. It's crazy. And that's obviously why people don't do it, because it's, it's like basically we had to spend millions of dollars in cameras. It was the world record for most cameras ever used. Which then we also broke the world record for most camera cables used, 'cause w- it's, uh, 27 miles of camera cables. Broke the world record for largest control room. Each of these is millions of dollars, and you have to bring in millions of dollars of extra editors. And so next thing you know, uh, you know, to take it from 10 cameras where you just essentially put words in people's mouths to unlimited cameras, and they can do whatever you want, and you can show who they actually are as opposed to what you think they should be, right? With a story producer. It costs a lot of money. It's a lot of effort and time, but it shows through in the final product because now, you know, you get more natural, like, less scripted things when people are just themselves.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:59

      You have a great ability to like see a, the big picture. And a, a great ability to put together things regardless of what the budget is. Like, regardless of how much money you're gonna make, to do the best product.

   10. MRMrBeast7:12

       Mm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:13

       Like, yeah, I always thought that about you when you were doing, when you first started doing your YouTube show. I'm like, "The amount of money and time and effort involved in this is, like, above and beyond what most people are willing to do."

   12. MRMrBeast7:24

       Yep.

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:24

       And it's, it's way more than a traditional television network would ever, would ever do. Because a traditional television network would look at the upside, they would look at the money, and they would go, "We're gonna spend X amount of money to make it this much better, but if we just take it down a couple notches, we save 80%."

   14. MRMrBeast7:42

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:43

       And they would do that. But you're like, "Can we make it even cooler? Let's put all the money back into the show."

   16. MRMrBeast7:49

       Exactly.

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:49

       Which is very risky, man. 'Cause not just very risky, um, it's just very ... You have great foresight. Like, you really see the big picture of it. Obviously, you have the number one show in the world. Like, you have the most watched show on Earth, you know? Your YouTube show is the most watched show, uh, on planet Earth, so it's obviously working.

   18. MRMrBeast8:09

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:09

       But it's like, that ability to take, like, to make that set must have been bananas.

   20. MRMrBeast8:15

       Uh-

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:15

       That is a fucking enormous building.

   22. MRMrBeast8:18

       Yeah.

7. 8:18 – 8:58

   Toronto hangar build: trap doors, $15M set cost, and local job creation

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:18

      Did you have to build the building?

   2. MRMrBeast8:20

      Uh, no, so that, that's in Toronto, but it's basically an airport hangar. I mean, we spent months trying to figure out how we could make this. That also is, like, 1,000 trap doors, because every single one of those, the trap doors open when they get eliminated. So that set alone-

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:33

      [laughs]

   4. MRMrBeast8:33

      ... was, like, $15 million. I mean, it was crazy.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:36

      Oh my God.

   6. MRMrBeast8:36

      And thousands of people's time and stuff like that. It's actually ... When we're, where we film Beast Games is actually a pretty big deal because it creates so many local jobs for people, so.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:44

      Oh, I'm sure.

   8. MRMrBeast8:45

      Yeah, like there, it was, like, pretty wild. Every time I-

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:48

      Can you say where you film it, or you keep it under wraps?

   10. MRMrBeast8:49

       Uh, that one was Toronto, Canada.

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:51

       Okay.

   12. MRMrBeast8:51

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:51

       Cool.

   14. MRMrBeast8:51

       Um, and, uh, every time I'd walk around on set, people were loving it because even though we film for 30 days, there's months leading up to it and months after, so.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:58

       Sure. Yeah

8. 8:58 – 14:13

   “Anything is possible”: pyramids access and the mindset behind big permissions

   1. MRMrBeast8:58

      It gives people, like, consistent work for six months, whereas, like, before, they're going project to project every week. But yeah, back on the going above and beyond, that's kind of my, my whole thing is, like, why make content that isn't great? And, uh, we just ask ourselves, "How do we make the best content possible?" As opposed to, you know, "How do we make the most money possible?" Um, and when you just shockingly go in with that approach, you just kinda [laughs] make a lot of money.

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:20

      Make a lot of money. [laughs]

   3. MRMrBeast9:20

      Yeah. And, uh, well, and also it's, uh, I tell my team all the time, too, like, a big difference between us and other media companies is, you know, um, usually, like, people at the top will always shoot down crazy ideas or tell you it's not possible, like wh- whenever you have, like, these crazy brainstorming sessions. And I tell the team, "Technically, anything's possible. If, as humans, we really wanted to, we could technically blow up the moon with enough nukes. Now, we're not gonna do it because it's not worth the time and it's not worth spending the money." But you have to have that frame of mind. Everything's, for the most part, possible if you're willing to spend the time and spend the money. So before you do the work and just figure out what time it takes and how much money it costs, you can't say no to something. 'Cause almost all the time ... Like, we, we filmed in the pyramids, and I spent 100 hours living in the pyramids of Egypt. It was fucking awesome. And, uh, you know, for years, everyone's like, "They're not gonna let you, you know, live in the pyramids for a couple days. Like, that's crazy." And I'm like, "Well, why not? Like, did you get a no from the, you know, the leader of Egypt?"

   4. JRJoe Rogan10:13

      [laughs]

   5. MRMrBeast10:13

      "No." Then I'm like, "Well, technically it's possible," you know? And, and after years of, of talking with them and helping them understand that, you know, it's gonna be more of an educational type video and it's not like I'm not gonna run up the pyramids and take my shirt off and be like a, a lunatic, it'll be really cool, um, eventually they came around to it and they loved the video and, and it worked really well. And it's literally, like, I could go anywhere in the pyramids for 100 hours. I went all the way up to the top of the, the middle pyramid. We went underneath it. It was, it was really cool. And I, like, tell my team, it's like, you know, even some of my most veteran people, when we get these crazier ideas, their default reaction always is to go, "I just don't think it's possible." And I, I go, "Look, it is. Sometimes it's, it's just time and money," you know? And is it worth the effort?

   6. JRJoe Rogan10:52

      The pyramid one must have been nuts.

   7. MRMrBeast10:54

      Oh, it was crazy. It was one of my favorite videos.

   8. JRJoe Rogan10:56

      Is that your first time ever being there?

   9. MRMrBeast10:57

      Uh, yeah, actually it was. And so that made it even more special 'cause I was, like, learning things at the, the same time as I was just walking around. And, um, I'm, I'm gonna be honest, it was, like, a year and a half ago and it's, like, all a little fuzzy because I was, like, so tired. I was just walking around all night. But it was pretty crazy and surreal. And then going down into ... What's that tomb called where you go down the ladder and, um, like a couple hundred feet, uh, underneath the pyramid?

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:21

       Hmm. I don't know. Is that Osiris's trap?

   11. MRMrBeast11:24

       Yes, yes, Osiris's. Yeah. And then, uh, it was, like, flooded and swimming around under there.

   12. JRJoe Rogan11:28

       Ooh.

   13. MRMrBeast11:28

       It was pretty wild. Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan11:30

       Wow.

   15. MRMrBeast11:31

       I feel like you should do something like that.

   16. JRJoe Rogan11:32

       100%.

   17. MRMrBeast11:33

       Yes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:33

       I, I need to go there. I've been talking about going there for years. I just, for me, it's just a time thing. My time is s- I d- so many different jobs. It's not like one all-consuming job like you have.

   19. MRMrBeast11:44

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan11:45

       Me, it's like commentary for the UFC-

   21. MRMrBeast11:47

       Yeah

   22. JRJoe Rogan11:47

       ... doing stand-up comedy, doing the podcast, and also married with children, so like I have a lot of responsibilities.

   23. MRMrBeast11:53

       Oof.

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:53

       So it's tough to just jet off for a m- a w- really, ideally, if you're gonna go to Egypt, I feel like you should go for, like, 10 days.

   25. MRMrBeast12:00

       Yeah, 100%.

   26. JRJoe Rogan12:01

       I feel like at least 10 days.

   27. MRMrBeast12:02

       Do you think the ... Yeah, I feel like the ... I m- maybe honestly, realistic, like five days you could do it.

   28. JRJoe Rogan12:09

       Yeah.

   29. MRMrBeast12:09

       And, and, like, I'm curious, though, if they'd let you just, like, do a video where you walk around and go everywhere, because-

   30. JRJoe Rogan12:14

       I wonder.
9. 14:13 – 19:29

   From pyramids to the Colosseum: filming a finale in ancient Rome

   1. MRMrBeast14:13

      I haven't heard it called that in years. Um, but yeah, that, that one was crazy. And I mean, one thing that I'm really proud of that we did, uh, for Season 3 of Beast Games, which I like in hindsight I'm not even sure how we, this one we pulled off, so I wa- I wanna see your reaction to this.

   2. JRJoe Rogan14:29

      Okay.

   3. MRMrBeast14:29

      So, um, basically the finale where we have the $5 million, we have the final contestants, we, uh, filmed it in the Roman Colosseum.

   4. JRJoe Rogan14:39

      Whoa.

   5. MRMrBeast14:40

      Yeah. We, we crowned the winner of Season 3 with the $5 million cash prize in the middle of the Roman Colosseum.

   6. JRJoe Rogan14:44

      [laughs]

   7. MRMrBeast14:44

      Played, played the first game there in over 1,000 years.

   8. JRJoe Rogan14:48

      Oh. Wow.

   9. MRMrBeast14:49

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan14:49

       That's crazy.

   11. MRMrBeast14:51

       I know. I'm s- I'm so grateful. I, I, like we just filmed that, too, so I'm like coming off the high and I just like, like it almost makes, like brings, gives me tears. Like what we shot was so cool. We had like a, a live orchestra at like the top ring of there, too. So like as the game got dramatic we would have them like play louder music and stuff. It was like so surreal. Like there's multi- 'cause I've done really crazy things in my life, but there was multiple moments during that where I'm just like looking around in the middle of the Colosseum as we're like filming this show and I'm like, like, "This doesn't feel real." It was pretty wild.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       It doesn't feel... I, I mean I went just to visit a few years back and it didn't feel real. It's so strange to imagine like what, what that was like.

   13. MRMrBeast15:31

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       You know, how many thousand years ago too. Th- what, when, what year were they doing the games in the Roman Colosseum?

   15. MRMrBeast15:39

       Uh, I would guess 1,900 years ago.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       So I mean, what the fuck was it like being in there while that was happening?

   17. MRMrBeast15:47

       I know. And imagine when they'd flood it-

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       I mean, imagine

   19. MRMrBeast15:48

       ... and they'd have the ships in there.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       Yeah, the boats.

   21. MRMrBeast15:50

       Like whoa. I know.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       Crazy.

   23. MRMrBeast15:52

       I know. And-

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       It's just, it's nuts that you could go walk around it and just try to understand like this used to be a place where people used to go to see people die.

   25. MRMrBeast16:02

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       They used to see g- see people get hacked to death by swords, to see people get killed by lions.

   27. MRMrBeast16:07

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       Like what the fuck was... [laughs]

   29. MRMrBeast16:09

       Well, it's also interesting too, 'cause I did a l- lot of research, you know, before we filmed there, and it's also did a good job of, you know, back then they had like the hierarchy and like the nobles' people would sit at the bottom and the poor people would be at the top. And it also played like a good role of like showcasing unity even though there are all these different people from all these different, you know, economic statuses, they would all be in the arena there, but also remind them where they are, and there was like so many political implications of it, too.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:32

       Yeah.
10. 19:29 – 21:26

    Decay of modern cities to a new concept: abandoned-city survival scenarios

    1. MRMrBeast19:29

       Yeah, it's, it's-

    2. JRJoe Rogan19:30

       Wow

    3. MRMrBeast19:30

       ... fascinating too, 'cause I like to think of, like, ah, something equivalent now would be, like, maybe SoFi Stadium. Like, that's such a beautiful, massive stadium, and I wonder if, like, 2,000 years from now, would that still be there?

    4. JRJoe Rogan19:41

       Right. No.

    5. MRMrBeast19:41

       You know? Like the Roman Colosseum's, like, relatively still intact. It's pretty crazy.

    6. JRJoe Rogan19:45

       Yeah.

    7. MRMrBeast19:45

       But-

    8. JRJoe Rogan19:45

       That's what's great. Well, it's because it's made out of stone.

    9. MRMrBeast19:48

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan19:48

        All of our stuff, like cement, will rot out. There's no way cement lasts 1,000 years. All the glass-

    11. MRMrBeast19:53

        Yeah

    12. JRJoe Rogan19:53

        ... all the, everything will just get absorbed back into the earth.

    13. MRMrBeast19:56

        Dang.

    14. JRJoe Rogan19:56

        Do you ever see that show? They had a show, like, what was it on the History Channel or something like that, where it was, ah, After Humans, I think it was called, and it, it essentially showed how long it would take for-

    15. MRMrBeast20:06

        Mm

    16. JRJoe Rogan20:06

        ... cities to completely be absorbed-

    17. MRMrBeast20:09

        Oh

    18. JRJoe Rogan20:09

        ... back into the earth. It's not that long.

    19. MRMrBeast20:11

        Yeah?

    20. JRJoe Rogan20:11

        So it's not that long. No, it's like a few hundred years, and there's nothing left.

    21. MRMrBeast20:15

        Wow.

    22. JRJoe Rogan20:16

        Yeah.

    23. MRMrBeast20:16

        Actually seems like a good show.

    24. JRJoe Rogan20:18

        Yeah, it was kinda interesting. You know, it was a while ago, so it was probably, like, shitty AI. It was shitty CGI. They could probably do it really good now.

    25. MRMrBeast20:25

        Yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan20:25

        But I mean, if you go to Detroit, there's houses in Detroit now that have trees growing out of the, the, the basement of the house through the roof.

    27. MRMrBeast20:34

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan20:34

        Like, they've, they've taken over the house, and nature is slowly but surely absorbing the building. And then skyscrapers are a bigger endeavor, but it'll, they could still, nature could still do it. It just takes-

    29. MRMrBeast20:46

        I wonder if-

    30. JRJoe Rogan20:46

        ... enough time
11. 21:26 – 1:18:36

    Designing a real zombie-apocalypse show: rules, weapons, and safety constraints

    1. JRJoe Rogan21:26

       Right, real, unscripted, but then also hire people to be zombies and haunt these people-

    2. MRMrBeast21:30

       [laughs]

    3. JRJoe Rogan21:30

       ... while they're sleeping.

    4. MRMrBeast21:31

       I love where your brain goes.

    5. JRJoe Rogan21:32

       You know what I mean?

    6. MRMrBeast21:32

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan21:33

       Hire, hire people, like CGI them up.

    8. MRMrBeast21:36

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan21:36

       Scare the fuck out of people.

    10. MRMrBeast21:38

        I've been wanting to do that for a while, but I always get, like, hung up on, like, okay, we, I can make some real zombies, but the problem is, like, how do they kill them and then, you know. Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan21:46

        Well, the other problem is what happens if, you, if you're not telling these contestants-

    12. MRMrBeast21:51

        Mm

    13. JRJoe Rogan21:51

        ... that zombies are coming, you're just trying to get a reaction out of them?

    14. MRMrBeast21:54

        [laughs]

    15. JRJoe Rogan21:54

        What if this guy thinks it's a real zombie and kills one of the people?

    16. MRMrBeast21:57

        Yeah. Well, I-

    17. JRJoe Rogan21:57

        You know?

    18. MRMrBeast21:57

        ... we would tell them. I would have to say, "This is a zombie simulation," and, you know, and then I'd have to set rules on here's how you kill a zombie. You don't use a f- sword. You use this foam thing.

    19. JRJoe Rogan22:06

        Yeah.

    20. MRMrBeast22:06

        And it's lame, which is why we've never-

    21. JRJoe Rogan22:08

        Yeah

    22. MRMrBeast22:08

        ... gotten around to it. But if there ever was a way, I do think that would be cool to, like, recreate a actual zombie apocalypse and, and, like, let someone try to live in it for a week, 'cause it'd just be cool. 'Cause e- everyone's exposure to this is through scripted shows.

    23. JRJoe Rogan22:21

        Right.

    24. MRMrBeast22:21

        But to see someone, like, truly live in an unscripted one where we build run-down gas stations, and there's, like, food that, like, well, we would say this is set in the year 2060, so I'd have set designers and everything design it where it, like, only Laffy Taffy's still edible and stuff, and it is, like, a true recreation of it. I would, I've always wanted to do stuff like that.

    25. JRJoe Rogan22:38

        You could totally do that. There's a bunch of abandoned towns.

    26. MRMrBeast22:40

        No, it's just the one thing we could never figure out is how does someone kill a zombie and it's not lame, right?

    27. JRJoe Rogan22:44

        Right.

    28. MRMrBeast22:44

        'Cause imagine someone with a Nerf sword hitting a zombie. Ugh. Now it's like, okay, this is fucking lame, you know?

    29. JRJoe Rogan22:49

        Yeah.

    30. MRMrBeast22:49

        Uh, I've-
12. 1:18:36 – 1:26:23

    Creators as Hollywood’s next engine: films, IP, and why creators win

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:18:36

       Well, it's hard for them because they have to put up so much money, and not everybody's Mr Beast.

    2. MRMrBeast1:18:41

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:18:41

       You know, that's the problem is, like, you have a great vision and you're really good at executing, but some people aren't. And so if you're gonna dump a bunch of money into something and you see them making a disaster-

    4. MRMrBeast1:18:50

       [laughs]

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:18:50

       ... you know, like the Joker 2 or something like that-

    6. MRMrBeast1:18:52

       Yeah. [laughs]

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:18:52

       ... and you're like, "Hey, hey, hey."

    8. MRMrBeast1:18:53

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:18:54

       "The fuck are you doing?"

    10. MRMrBeast1:18:55

        Of course, and that's where it's like, well, what to an exec might be a disaster to, like, a creator might be a masterpiece, and so that's-

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:19:01

        Right

    12. MRMrBeast1:19:01

        ... obviously where, uh... But it, it's evolving. I, I mean, I think obviously with Obsession, I mean, they just grossed $400 million with that movie.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:19:07

        Isn't that crazy?

    14. MRMrBeast1:19:08

        I know.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:19:08

        I still haven't seen it, but I heard it's amazing.

    16. MRMrBeast1:19:10

        Oh, what? You would love it.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:19:11

        I know.

    18. MRMrBeast1:19:12

        It's good.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:19:12

        I just don't go to movie theaters anymore.

    20. MRMrBeast1:19:13

        I don't either, but, like, that one, as, with how well people are talking about it, I had to see it. I- it was really good

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:19:18

        It'll be streaming soon.

    22. MRMrBeast1:19:19

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:19:19

        I think it'll be streaming in July or something like that.

    24. MRMrBeast1:19:21

        Yeah. Obsession, Backrooms, which were made by a creator, um, uh-

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:19:24

        Mm-hmm

    26. MRMrBeast1:19:24

        ... Amazing Digital Circus, they've been crushing it, Iron Lung. So it's like Hollywood's seeing it more and more, but the writing's been there for years. But now that-

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:19:30

        Mm-hmm

    28. MRMrBeast1:19:30

        ... I mean, we just had essentially four hit films made by creators back to back to back to back.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:19:33

        Well, did you see Talk To Me?

    30. MRMrBeast1:19:35

        T- uh, no.
13. 1:26:23 – 1:38:30

    AI companions, voice cloning, and the weirdness of the next decade

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:26:23

       Did you see the Computer Electronic Show from Vegas this year?

    2. MRMrBeast1:26:26

       Computer elec- uh, with the drones?

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:26:28

       CES, uh, well, they have everything

    4. MRMrBeast1:26:30

       Yeah

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:26:30

       And one of the things they had was an AI companion.

    6. MRMrBeast1:26:32

       Oh.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:26:32

       And this AI companion is a hot Asian lady with big boobs. And, uh-

    8. MRMrBeast1:26:37

       Lovely

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:26:37

       ... the, the lips don't sync up with the mouth, which is, uh, with the, the way it, the-

    10. MRMrBeast1:26:42

        Yeah

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:26:42

        ... the sounds coming out, but it's talking to you in AI.

    12. MRMrBeast1:26:45

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:26:45

        So it literally can have a back and forth conversation with you just like Perplexity can.

    14. MRMrBeast1:26:49

        Yeah, or ChatGPT or, or Gemini

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:26:51

        Yeah, and it's doing it with a voice.

    16. MRMrBeast1:26:53

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:26:53

        So with a hot voice.

    18. MRMrBeast1:26:54

        I mean-

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:26:55

        And it's, like that's common, dude.

    20. MRMrBeast1:26:57

        Well, of course. I mean, the, the language model's already there, right?

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:27:00

        Yeah.

    22. MRMrBeast1:27:00

        You c- you can open up Gemini right now and talk to it like a normal human.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:27:03

        Yeah.

    24. MRMrBeast1:27:03

        And if you just tell it to respond quick, it, it will talk to you-

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:27:05

        And it'll talk to you with slang.

    26. MRMrBeast1:27:07

        Exactly.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:27:07

        It'll talk to you and say, "That part," like-

    28. MRMrBeast1:27:10

        Yeah

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:27:10

        ... it'll say, it'll-

    30. MRMrBeast1:27:11

        Well, one thing that's, it's funny, I, um, I play this, uh, board game a lot called Dune. Whatever, like a big nerd, but there's like this one-
14. 1:38:30 – 1:45:55

    Simulation theory, hidden senses, and MrBeast’s disability-help videos

    1. MRMrBeast1:38:30

       Yeah.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:38:30

       It's gonna happen. And that's Sandbox VR, but times a million. If you go to play those games, you're in a small room that's like a part of a giant warehouse where they have these things set up, and your room is, you know, like, mm, 50 feet by 50 feet, and you move around in there, you do a bunch of stuff. But if-

    3. MRMrBeast1:38:47

       Yeah

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:38:47

       ... this is an actual fucking warehouse and you have, uh, physical boundaries that exist. Like, and then you're in a virtual space where as you're walking, it looks like the actual ground that you're walking on.

    5. MRMrBeast1:38:59

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:38:59

       And you're, you're involved... You won't be able to tell-

    7. MRMrBeast1:39:02

       Exactly

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:39:02

       ... what's real and what's not real.

    9. MRMrBeast1:39:03

       And with those omnidirectional treadmills and stuff-

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:39:05

        Yeah

    11. MRMrBeast1:39:05

        ... when someone cracks the code, it's a, I... You've probably never heard of it, but there's a popular anime called Sword Art Online. It's where... Don't... It's just a, a guy gets, uh, trapped in a video game and he lives his life through there. And I remember watching that when I was younger. And, uh, I remember like when I was really young, where fresh off of watching that anime, I was like, "Man, I hope f- they figure this out in my lifetime, so when I'm like 80 years old, I can just put one of those on and just live in the video game." And it's like at first he's scared, but then he ends up loving it 'cause it's just like everything's great. And, um, uh, and yeah. So I think, uh, yeah, there's just, it's-

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:39:36

        Well, the problem is like what's real and what's not real. You know, d- is it really important for things to happen physically in, in the real, air quotes, "real world"? Or will it be just as fulfilling to exist in these virtual worlds?

    13. MRMrBeast1:39:51

        Uh, yeah. I mean, there are... I remember when I was younger, I would play like this game called Wizard101. It's like World of Warcraft, like an MMORPG. And like there are definitely times in my life, maybe there were short periods where like when I was a r- young kid, like my character in that game definitely mattered like pretty similar to like me in real life. Like I was really hooked, you know, on that game.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:40:09

        Yeah.

    15. MRMrBeast1:40:09

        And so like I could see it like, you know, uh, where people... Like look at people who've dedicated their entire lives to World of Warcraft. There's-

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:40:15

        Uh-huh

    17. MRMrBeast1:40:15

        ... you know, probably hundreds of thousands or at least tens of thousands. And it's like, you know, if you could recreate that same effect, people would feel that same way.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:40:22

        Well-

    19. MRMrBeast1:40:22

        Like if I'm 90 years old and I'm bedridden, like I don't care. Put that headset on me. Like I'm done.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:40:26

        Yeah.

    21. MRMrBeast1:40:26

        Let me just live it out in here. You know, someone come in, stretch my, my limbs every couple of days.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:40:31

        [laughs]

    23. MRMrBeast1:40:31

        Like, you know, put an IV in me. I don't even wanna take the headset off to eat. [laughs]

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:40:35

        Well, then there's the question of is that already happening right now? So if a simulation exists and it's so good that it's impossible to differentiate-

    25. MRMrBeast1:40:45

        Yeah

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:40:46

        ... between the simulation and real life, and, you know, there's a lot of people that are very intelligent people that believe we are inside of some sort of a simulation currently.

    27. MRMrBeast1:40:55

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:40:55

        Elon's one of them. He said the odds of us not being in a simulation are in billions.

    29. MRMrBeast1:40:59

        Really?

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:41:00

        Yeah.
15. 1:45:55 – 2:35:54

    Creator economy reality: clips culture, creator jobs, and reinvesting to grow

    1. MRMrBeast1:45:55

       Yeah. You know what's, uh, is funny? Because, uh, on the car ride over here I was listening to a podcast we did, whatever, four years ago, and it's like, uh, essentially like the entire podcast, uh, I was way younger back then, was all about like YouTube data and analytics.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:46:09

       Mm-hmm.

    3. MRMrBeast1:46:09

       I don't know if you remember that. And it's like I do, uh, like one thing I've, I've noticed ... It's interesting because like I, I started making videos when I was 11, so my entire life is on the internet, right? And the like my puberty, every development and stuff, and I, I look at that, our old podcast and like it is so like, uh, brutal. Like I have borderline like autism on like this one subject and it, it's like I was so one-dimensional back then because I was just young and I'd only ever done one thing. It's just so interesting because it's like if, uh, someone were to theoretically search MrBeast Joe Rogan and they, you know, if they clicked on either one of these podcasts, it'd be two completely different experiences.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:46:44

       Right.

    5. MRMrBeast1:46:45

       Right? Um, because-

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:46:46

       Well, you look differently.

    7. MRMrBeast1:46:47

       Yeah. I was-

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:46:48

       I mean, you look great, man.

    9. MRMrBeast1:46:49

       Thank you.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:46:49

        And we were s- I was saying before the podcast, you look fantastic. You lost weight. You look really healthy.

    11. MRMrBeast1:46:54

        Thank you. Yeah, I, I was, uh, telling Joe before the podcast I lost 50 pounds between the last one and this one. Um-

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:46:59

        That's awesome, man.

    13. MRMrBeast1:47:00

        Yeah. And, and last time when you had asked me about movies or you asked me about self-care, all these things, e- every ... 'Cause I was listening to it on 3X speed on my car ride here. Every single thing I was like, "I don't know. [laughs] I don't know." I was like, "One thing and one thing only. I know YouTube." And it was like I know nothing else, and I, I blocked everything else out of my like my world, which is interesting because I actually think that wasn't a positive, right? I think if I had consumed more other medias and culture it would've been better inspiration. I would've been a better storyteller. So I actually don't think it was a good thing, which is why I've like since then opened up and like I let more things into my mind.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:47:30

        If I could push back on that though, I think it allowed you to be hyper successful.

    15. MRMrBeast1:47:34

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:47:34

        Because you were so focused on it that I, I think it really worked out to your benefit.

    17. MRMrBeast1:47:39

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:47:39

        I don't, I don't think it's a bad thing.

    19. MRMrBeast1:47:40

        Yeah, no, I think the, uh, the hours put in, yes, but it's like instead of consuming four hours of YouTube a day, allowing, like allowing myself to occasionally watch a movie, I think I would've been more tapped in and understood how to tell stories or-

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:47:50

        Well, you were younger.

    21. MRMrBeast1:47:51

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:47:51

        And you ... That's a part of the process.

    23. MRMrBeast1:47:54

        I know. It's just so funny listening to that podcast 'cause I even, I as myself, I watched that. I was on the car. I was like, wow, I like seem like borderline like a freak on certain things here.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:48:04

        [laughs]

    25. MRMrBeast1:48:04

        'Cause like you were like, you would like change the subject on certain things, and then I'd instantly bring it back to the one thing I knew, like YouTube data. [laughs]

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:48:10

        [laughs]

    27. MRMrBeast1:48:10

        And, and like I, I could like tell that I didn't even know, and I would just be like, "Oh yeah, that thing. Anyways, retention." [laughs] And it was just so funny, uh, listening to it. But it's just interesting though because, you know, I'm sure you see like a lot of your, your podcasts you do, most people consume it through clips on social media, right?

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:48:27

        Mm-hmm.

    29. MRMrBeast1:48:27

        That's like their exposure to it. And what's fa-

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:48:28

        Most people consume most things through clips.

Episode duration: 2:48:43