EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,002 words- 0:00 – 0:02
Intro
- JRJoe Rogan
[upbeat music]
- 0:02 – 1:08
Brian Simpson’s special on YouTube & why the “WAP” bit works
- JRJoe Rogan
Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- SPSpeaker
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music]
- BSBrian Simpson
Hey there. I just, I just... Hey, what's up, Joe?
- JRJoe Rogan
What's up, Brian? [laughs]
- BSBrian Simpson
Here to promote the new special.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's right.
- BSBrian Simpson
Or the old special that's new.
- JRJoe Rogan
The old special that is now available on YouTube as well.
- BSBrian Simpson
Now available on YouTube.
- JRJoe Rogan
Nice.
- BSBrian Simpson
Live from the mothership.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
I'm here at the mothership.
- JRJoe Rogan
That has one of my all time favorite bits in it.
- BSBrian Simpson
What bit is that?
- JRJoe Rogan
WAP.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, that's a-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's one of my all time favorite bits, 'cause it's such, it's such a great arc, you know? It's got a lot of detail to it, and it, and then it comes back around.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, yeah. I'll probably never write anything better than that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's a great bit. You will. You will.
- BSBrian Simpson
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
But it is an inspired piece of material.
- BSBrian Simpson
You know how sometimes you're haunted by a bit, where you're like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah
- BSBrian Simpson
... and people, and every now and then somebody'll walk up to you and go, "You know my favorite joke of yours is?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BSBrian Simpson
And you're like, "Yep." [laughs]
- 1:08 – 4:49
Filming stand-up specials: pressure, multiple takes, and the torture of editing
- JRJoe Rogan
... for sure, and it was really good. It's a great special, man. It's hard. It's hard to... A special never feels like it feels in the room, 'cause you're not in the audience, you're at home, so it's always like, even a great special is, like, 60 to 70% of what it feels like to be there.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
When you're there it's always better. But then it's hard to be relaxed, 'cause you know that there's fucking cameras on you, and you gotta nail this.
- BSBrian Simpson
You know the analogy I use is, like, it's the difference between watching porno and then watching those same two people have sex right in front of you.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- BSBrian Simpson
You know? It's the exact same thing is happening.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right, right.
- BSBrian Simpson
But it's a, it's a different-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's way crazier if people are fucking right in front of you. Like, yo.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, that's a whole different, it's a whole different vibe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Yeah. It's, it's hard to get them down, you know? There's a lot of great comics that don't have a great special, and it's just, it's hard. It's hard to nail it.
- BSBrian Simpson
I mean, it's hard to nail it. It's hard to know when to make it happen. It's hard to be in the right mind frame.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep, all those things.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah. But once you knock one out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Once you knock one out, once you get a really good one... Z- if you're doing, I always like to film four, if possible, and then once you have one in the can, then you're free. Once you have one that's done, you're like, "All right. This is all a regular show now."
- BSBrian Simpson
Well, that's-
- JRJoe Rogan
"Now I can be free."
- BSBrian Simpson
Well, that's the advice you gave me before. I'm glad I did that, too. But it, but it, but what's funny is the first one was the one where you and the views.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because you're inspired, but also there's less pressure.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't feel-
- BSBrian Simpson
... you know you have more chances.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- BSBrian Simpson
Right, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So you're free. You're free, you're inspired. It's just when you have to do one. Like, there's a lot of great specials, like Bill Hicks: Relentless, the one he did, uh, in London. God, it feels like he's tense. It doesn't feel, it doesn't feel, like, loose, like relaxed. It feels like he's very aware he's being filmed.
- BSBrian Simpson
Do you think he only shot the one?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think so.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh.
- 4:49 – 8:35
CTE in the NFL: prevalence, sub-concussive hits, and neurological fallout
- BSBrian Simpson
... something about this, uh, um, the CTE Foundation. They just r- they just released a study. They, basically, they, um, they got every NFL player that died between 2016 and 2021, it was like 800 of them or something like that, and they asked their families to donate their brains. And so they, the families donated about a quarter of, about a quarter of the families said yes. And, and, like, 90-plus percent of the brains had CTE.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
So, so the best they can say for sure is that a l- um, a, about a quarter of, uh, all those NFL players have CTE. Because they, and it's, it's definitely more than that because that, that's all they gave them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, right.
- BSBrian Simpson
So.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, but out of the quarter, 90%.
- BSBrian Simpson
Over 90%. [sighs] Yeah, I, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
They, you know, they've, they've found CTE in high school kids.
- BSBrian Simpson
Well, that's, yeah, that's, that's the next one that's coming up.
- JRJoe Rogan
High school. High school football, all the way up. High school, college.
- BSBrian Simpson
Can I, um, can I send it to you, Jamie?
- SPSpeaker
I got it.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh.
- SPSpeaker
I got it 'cause Adam Schefter tweeted it and, like, [clears throat] worded it weirdly, and people got mad about that, but.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, man, that's spooky. Sometimes I see, like, an old fighter on Twitter just screaming into the wind, and I'm like, "What is that guy going through?" Um... This was a study in the British Medical Journal that came out, like, this week or last week. What were we just looking at? We were just looking at something different. It was on ESPN. Oh, study, at least 25% of NFL players in sample had CTE. So 878 players, uh, that appeared in one, at least one NFL game and died in a six-year period, at least 25% had CTE. So this is, um, this study drew on samples donated between 2008 and 2021, 93% of which had been diagnosed with CTE. Then narrowed the sample based on when donations were highest and factored the demographic data and information from death certificates. The estimate of 25% is on the low end. Yeah. Said Dr. D- uh, Daniel Daneshvar, the study's lead author. The study found the maximum possible prevalence of CTE was around 97%, but the true rate is somewhere in the middle. Yeah. Fuck. That 3% is just the kickers. F- yeah, right? Mm-hmm. Right? [laughs] It's gotta be. Yeah, right? Like, everybody else is getting hit. There's no way. Who's that guy that got diagnosed with CTE? That was here? Yeah. Uh, he's, uh, it might... I, I don't know if he's current, but- So the thing is, these guys are getting diagnosed now while they're alive. And, and not just CTE, but, um, uh, uh, uh, is it MS? What, what did, uh, Chris, uh, what's C2K have? Chris Johnson, he was, uh- Oh, um... Is it MS, I think? It's the, the, uh, thing that people with Ice Bucket Challenge. ALS? ALS. Oh, Jesus. Like, so the- That's what Stephen Hawking had ... there's also a high prevalence of that. Oh, my God. A high prevalence of ALS. But again, makes sense. You're getting hit in the head all the time. All sorts of things are probably going haywire up there. Yeah. I mean, the amount of times these guys get hit. So everybody thinks about concussion, but sub-concussive head trauma is just as bad. What is sub-concussive? Where you don't get a concussion. Oh, you just get hit. You just get banged in the head. Oh. And you think you're okay 'cause you don't have a concussion, but you're still doing damage. Oh, yeah. I know. You know who gets CTE? Soccer players. Oh, man. From heading the ball. Oh, yeah, I bet. How crazy is that? Thousands and thousands and thousands of times. But you would never imagine that a rubber ball could hurt your brain. You would think, "Ah, it's
- 8:35 – 12:30
Public reactions to tragedy: empathy, blame, and the ‘Free Lindsay’ outrage
- JRJoe Rogan
fine. Boink, it doesn't even hurt." Do you know what sh- what's, what's, what's weird is that... What's weird is how okay it is to make fun of it. [laughs] You know what I mean? Of CTE? Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's become the n- it's become the new R-word. You know, where it's like p- it's like you can just say, you... Like, CTE is the punchline. Well, you know why? It's because it's brutish men, and nobody, like- Feels bad for brutish men? Yeah, nobody feels bad for brutish men. People always feel bad for women. That's why this lady killed her kids. Oh. And everyone's like, "Oh, my God, she needed help." [laughs] Imagine if a single father killed his kids. Do you think there'd be any dads out there, "We get it, we understand"? [laughs] Absolutely. "I also get sad." Bro, I said, I, I should put the joke out, but I said it on stage yesterday. But I, uh, but when, when I f- so I don't follow this news, so when I first heard it, so basically she sh- she strangled her three kids. Yeah. Right? And then she tried to kill herself. She cut her throat and her wrist, and then she jumped out the window. Didn't do a good job. Right. She, she failed. She ended up paralyzed. And I said, uh, and this is... I just said, "I feel like she doesn't have good problem-solving skills, because you- [laughs] ... you was three for three on the strangulation, and then when you tried to kill yourself, you using unproven methods." [laughs] You... Why would you, why, why not strangle yourself? You, you are definitely good at that. Yeah, hang yourself. Yeah. She... So I don't know if she really wanted to d- I don't know. She looks fucking crazy. I mean, you can't tell looking in someone's eyes, really. They're under stress. They're in court. They're gonna be going to jail for the rest of their life most likely. So there's a lot of stress, but boy, does she look crazy. Yeah. But, but when you're dealing with somebody that's out of it, you can tell. But she chased her son down. She, she- She chased him down to strangle him. He ran away from her. Did she say that? It's in the, it's in the case. Oh, man. You know, I think if those ladies could see the crime scene, and see those dead kids with their fucking vacant eyes staring up 'cause their mother took their life, the last fucking thing that they saw was their mother standing over them, choking them to death, I don't think they would feel so bad. I think everybody that's saying, "Free, free Lindsay," I don't- People are out of their fucking mind right now. If she get freed, they should have to let her babysit. The... Dude, she's- Let her watch their kids ... she's out of her fucking mind. The world is out of its fucking mind. It's like more of these things come up where you're like, "This can't be real. This can't be real," and it is real. More of these things where you're like, people are showing up in support of a woman who killed her children. I don't care how rough it was. The a- the ability to kill your children is crazy. That's, that's a level of crazy that anyone who has kids, you know how much you love them, what you would do to save them, what you'd do to protect them from harm. The idea that you can get to a point where you could strangle your kids and chase your s- make sure that's true, that she chased her son down. Pe- people- I'm pretty sure it's true ... people are, uh, are making up, like, conspiracies that it was actually the husband. You know? Th- like, that's how badly they want her to not be responsible, even though she's already admitted it. Well- Like, like- ... I think there's conspiracies about every fucking thing that's ever existed. There's so many morons out there with a hot take, including me. There's a lot of dumbasses that have terrible hot takes, so there's always a bunch of them. Not, not me. I'm pretty much always right. [laughs] I'm pretty much always on the money. [laughs] Did you take the COVID vaccine? The... Yeah, a few times. All right, then shut the fuck up. Oh, you think we, you th- you still don't believe in vaccines? Not that one. Oh, not that one. Okay. That one didn't do a goddamn thing. That one didn't do a goddamn thing. It didn't protect you from transmission, it didn't protect you from infection, and it o- opened you up to a, a host of different problems. Got me a long vacation, though. The... Yeah, I think we need another one
- BSBrian Simpson
We need another pandemic so we can-
- JRJoe Rogan
Gotcha
- BSBrian Simpson
... I wanna stay in the house for six months
- JRJoe Rogan
Just stay in the house for six months. Look, if that's what you like to do, then just do it.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, but I don't wanna feel guilty about it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah. So you'd rather... You're like Fauci. You wanna sacrifice-
- BSBrian Simpson
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
... the entire world for your own benefit. [laughs]
- BSBrian Simpson
Now, what did he get out of it, though?
- 12:30 – 20:22
COVID, Fauci, and gain-of-function: accusations, motives, and pardons
- JRJoe Rogan
A lot of s- a lot of fear right now. That's what he got. That guy doesn't sleep right now. You could see the look on his face when he had to testify and plead the fifth. He feels the weight of what he did, 'cause the world knows what he did now.
- BSBrian Simpson
But what did he do?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, first of all, he funded gain-of-function research when it's illegal. So when they, when Obama put a stop to it, he went through the EcoHealth Alliance, and they back-doored it, and so they, they funded this creation of these new vir- they ta- take a virus and make it more transmissible and more dangerous.
- BSBrian Simpson
But what's the purpose-
- JRJoe Rogan
They fund that
- BSBrian Simpson
... what's the purpose of that?
- JRJoe Rogan
[sighs] Who knows, okay? There's a lotta people that think it's weapons, and that it's, this is biological weapons research, and what they're trying to do is develop specific targeted viruses that they can infla- inflict on a population. We know they have done that before. They've experimented with, like, certain bugs, and infect these bugs with diseases, and then drop them out of helicopters onto a civilization so that it wipes out people and wipes out their medical system. Everybody gets sick. They, they know they did that on Plum Island, which is right near where Lyme, Connecticut is, and that's the suspicion where Lyme disease came from. Lyme disease, th- this is why it's called Lyme disease, 'cause it first started, people started being diagnosed with it in Lyme, Connecticut, and it's literally, like, like a hop, skip, and a jump from Plum Island, where they do this fucking research on bugs, where they take-
- BSBrian Simpson
Mm
- JRJoe Rogan
... bugs and infect them with different diseases to make them, you know, so they can use them in warfare. That's the idea. The idea was that they would, say, if we're going to war with a country, you fly overhead, dump all these bugs that are infected. People get bit, it starts to spread, it gets in the other bugs. Their medical system gets overwhelmed. Their fighting age population gets overwhelmed.
- BSBrian Simpson
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Scary shit, man. These motherfuckers have been doing this kind of research for a long time. But it's like, look, if you're a comedian, you... Your phone's ringing. If you're a comedian, you tell jokes. If you're a fucking researcher, you do research, and if your research is gain-of-function research, to make... And by the way, they never came up with a cure for any of these things. They, by, by s- the idea is we're gonna study these diseases, then make them more transmissible so we understand how to prevent infection and how to, how to cure people. They didn't have a cure. CO- when, when COVID got released, they had no, uh, fucking idea what to do. The whole thing was a, a, a mass fuck-up, either on purpose or by accident, but either way, Fauci lied, and he lied through the entire media thing. First of all, he lied about the miscarriage, uh, risk for women-
- BSBrian Simpson
So what are you saying about-
- JRJoe Rogan
... in the first trimester. In a text message-
- BSBrian Simpson
You gonna have more? You gonna have 'em all?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, for sure. In a, in a, in a text message, he talked about how the cytokine storm during the first trimester seems to, there seems to be a signal that indicates a, a higher risk of, m- of, uh, miscarriage. And then months later, he's on TV telling, "It's totally safe for pregnant women."
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
"In fact, it's more risky for you to get COVID."
- BSBrian Simpson
What's the cytokine storm? What is that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Cytokine storm is a reaction to the vaccine. Um, and, uh, I don't know the specifics, but I know that this is exactly how he described it, and that, uh, particularly during the first trimester. I mean, there's, like, a high risk of miscarriage. It's very high. A lot... I know five women that had miscarriages-
- BSBrian Simpson
And-
- JRJoe Rogan
... when they, after they got vaccinated.
- BSBrian Simpson
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
They got pregnant, got vaccinated, had a miscarriage.
- BSBrian Simpson
And then-
- JRJoe Rogan
And he knew about it. He fucking knew about it and lied. He lied about the transmission. He lied about the, uh, the risk for children. He lied about everything-
- BSBrian Simpson
So-
- JRJoe Rogan
... the necessity for children to get vaccinated.
- BSBrian Simpson
Is he going to prison?
- JRJoe Rogan
He lied about that. No, 'cause Biden gave him a full pardon for all crimes that he may have committed from 2014 to 2024. He gave him a 10-year pardon for the first time ever, where someone's been pardoned where they're not convicted of a crime. Usually when you're pardoned, it's like, you know, you did a little of this, you did a little of that. You went to jail for tax evasion or whatever, and then the guy gets in and goes, "Ah, he donated to the Democrats," or, "He donated to the Republicans, and he's a good guy. I'm leaving office. I'm gonna let this guy out." And people go like, "Hey, how did he get out?" They, they yell for a couple days, then it goes away, and then you live in Florida. That's normal.
- BSBrian Simpson
Right.
- 20:22 – 24:48
AIDS era controversies & Peter Duesberg’s rejected theory
- JRJoe Rogan
I have a sneaking suspicion that there's a guy, he died recently. Um, the, the guy, uh, Peter Duesberg, who was out of the University of California Berkeley. When did he die?
- BSBrian Simpson
He, he's among the guy that, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
He, he was, uh-
- BSBrian Simpson
Had the bone marrow transplant?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no. He-
- SPSpeaker
Earlier this year in January.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, earlier this year. Shoulda had him back on again. I had him on early in the day and people got so mad at me. So he's a professor of biology at the University of California Berkeley. Tenured professor, so they couldn't fire him. And, um, but lost all of his research grants, lost everything. 'Cause during the AIDS crisis, he pointed out that all these people that are in the gay community that are suffering from, you know, air quote, "AIDS," are also hardcore drug users. They're all party drug users. They're all using amyl nitrate and crystal meth, and they're all, they're destroying their immune system with this stuff, and then they get HIV. His contention was that HIV, and I don't know if this is true, uh, I'm sure a lot of people disagree, but I'm just saying what he believed. His contention was that HIV was actually not responsible for AIDS, but was in fact a weak virus that was only showing up in the immune systems of people that were already compromised. So these people were severely compromised because they were heavy drug users, and that's what was fucking up their, their immune system. That's what was fucking up their life.
- BSBrian Simpson
So he's, he said that in the '80s?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh yeah, there's tons of articles. I mean, he, he printed it, I think, God, it was like, was it Spin Magazine that had this whole thing about it? He wrote books on it. But he was basically rendered per- persona non grata. He was, he was basically, l- lost all his grants, d- didn't have any, you know, no students wanted to, like, study under him. He was, he was a pariah because of his position. They, they said it was homophobic. They said all these crazy things. But he was saying, "Look, this is nothing to do with gay or straight. What I'm telling you is this group of people that you're attributing this disease to also are hardcore drug users. You're not seeing this..." Like, when they say AIDS in Africa, do you think they're testing all those people for HIV with a fucking, with a, with a PCR test? No. They're, they're malnourished. They're dying of starvation.
- BSBrian Simpson
So you, so his theory is that you, you have to already have a weakened-
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly
- BSBrian Simpson
... for your HIV to progress to AIDS.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- BSBrian Simpson
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was saying the reason why these people have HIV is not because they have, HIV's killing them, they have AIDS. Their immune system is already destroyed, so that's why HIV is not fought off by the body. It's very weird.
- BSBrian Simpson
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because he's full of shit, okay? We know he's full of shit. He's a liar. He's a proven liar. He lied about the gain-of-function research. He lied about the transmission, lied about the infection of, the potential of the vaccine to stop infection and transmission. He lied about how deadly it was for kids. He lied about the death rate.
- BSBrian Simpson
Well, I re-
- JRJoe Rogan
There's proof of all of this
- BSBrian Simpson
... I remember when you sent me that book. It was like... I forget, who wrote that book?
- JRJoe Rogan
Which one? RFK Jr.? The Real Anthony Fauci?
- BSBrian Simpson
I th- I think, was that a book you sent me, like, during the, it was like during the pandemic, or right after the pandemic.
- JRJoe Rogan
Probably, yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
You went, "You gotta read this."
- JRJoe Rogan
Probably. That was a, yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
I never read it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Eh, you should listen to the audio version. It's really good.
- BSBrian Simpson
I just don't think he's that, I just don't think he's that interesting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Who?
- BSBrian Simpson
Uh, 'cause Doc- 'cause-
- 24:48 – 30:01
Vaccine politics, autism research fraud, and industry influence
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, he's the head of HHS now. I mean, I, I don't think he's wrong. And ev- And I had the same opinion of him that a lot of people have of him.
- BSBrian Simpson
Hold up, you don't think who's wrong?
- JRJoe Rogan
I thought... RFK Jr.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think he's wrong.
- BSBrian Simpson
What do you-
- JRJoe Rogan
I think, I think he, it's very well-researched, and I think he's telling the truth about all this. And when I was, um, you know, a, a, a quote-unquote liberal when I was living in California, I thought he was a kook. When he was talking about vaccines and all, all this, uh, I thought he was just an anti-vaccine, anti-science nutter that also happened to be a Kennedy.
- BSBrian Simpson
See, that's how I feel about him.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause you don't pay attention to what he says.
- BSBrian Simpson
That is a good point.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
[laughs] You know, you know, you... 'Cause it's har- 'cause it's hard to listen to.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
It's hard to listen to him talk.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Well, if you hear his voice..." Yeah. But the thing is, the book is written, uh, written, and then someone else reads it.
- BSBrian Simpson
'Cause when you-
- JRJoe Rogan
So it's not he... That would be torture if you read the audiobook
- BSBrian Simpson
... when you talk like that and then you say some crazy shit-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah
- BSBrian Simpson
... you sound like, like a-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, exactly
- BSBrian Simpson
... like a tr- like a troll or something.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the thing about him that's really interesting is he was a well-respected guy for the long, for the longest time because he was an environmental attorney. And what he was doing was stopping corporations from polluting rivers. Like, he's responsible for cleaning up the East River in New York State, in New York City.
- BSBrian Simpson
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's, he's literally responsible for that. Like, he held those... He went to court. He held those people accountable, made them clean it up. Like, he was a legit guy. And then these women kept showing up at, um, some of these events that he had where he would give speeches on the, the toxic poisons, mercury in the ground, all these different things that are the problems of pollution that enters into communities. And these ladies started saying, "You need to look at mercury in vaccines." And he was like, "What? Fucking crazy bitches. I'm not listening." And, like, this woman literally showed up and said, "I'm not leaving unless you read this." And he's, "All right. Well, let me, let me look at it." And then he started looking in it. He was like, "Holy fuck." And then when you see the, the... When they ra- First of all, the biggest mistake they ever did was give these vaccine manufacturers complete immunity.
- BSBrian Simpson
So is he, is he the reason we don't use mercury in the vaccines anymore?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Well, they use a different kind of mercury, and then they started using... They use, use methylmercury and ethylmercury. I forget which one. In one of them, they said, uh, it's, it leaves the body quicker. But the problem with that is it also crosses the blood- blood-brain barrier. Like, any amount of mercury is bad. Then they, they started using aluminum. You know, the way... Do you know how a vaccine works?
- BSBrian Simpson
I mean, generally.
- JRJoe Rogan
Roughly? Roughly?
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah.
- 30:01 – 36:15
Drugs as policy and profit: THC bans, Adderall, and the reality of ‘ADD’
- JRJoe Rogan
... 50. Well, what have they, what have they done here in Texas with the fucking THC ban? Who's asking for that when 70% of the state wants it to be legal, and somehow or another they made it illegal, and the alcohol lobby is involved, and they've been losing money? You know, alcohol companies are losing money right now.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
People are drinking a lot less.
- BSBrian Simpson
Texas runs on drugs. It's crazy to people that pretend, like, pretend otherwise. It's like everyone's always on something.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, if they're not on something illegal, they're on something legal. And that's where it gets weird. Like, who decides what's legal and what's not legal?
- BSBrian Simpson
Like, all the border states get high.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah. I mean, not... I mean, all the states get high, but the border states especially, where the... That's where the drugs are coming in.
- JRJoe Rogan
Listen, you could just go to the doctor and say, "I can't concentrate," and they'll give you Adderall.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so easy to get Adderall.
- BSBrian Simpson
They'll put you on some powerful shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
They'll put you on speed. You can crush it up and snort it, and it's totally legal.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah. I mean, half the college kids, they on Adderall and then chat GP-
- JRJoe Rogan
Half the high school kids.
- BSBrian Simpson
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
High school kids are saying they have ADD and they're getting Adderall. I know this for a fact.
- BSBrian Simpson
The thing is, I do have it, but I don't wa- I can't take that shit. It fucks me up.
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you mean you have ADD?
- BSBrian Simpson
I've been, I've ha- I was diagnosed with that shit when I was like-
- JRJoe Rogan
What does that even mean?
- BSBrian Simpson
I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't even think it's real.
- BSBrian Simpson
They, but all, every time they tried to give me medicine for it, I was like, "Well, I don't like this."
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it's just you think different than other people. That's all it is, and you, you're bored with stupid stuff that you don't wanna pay attention to. But you could focus like a motherfucker when you like something, right?
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
Or-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a superpower, dude
- BSBrian Simpson
... when I like something or when there's a sense of urgency.
- 36:15 – 43:43
Political money, NGO laundering, and USAID as regime-change infrastructure
- JRJoe Rogan
The thing about money and power is at, at the highest levels, like when you get into government, when you get into enorm- enormous corporations that can affect government, then you're gonna get a lot of scams because they're just trying to make as much money as possible.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the problem.
- BSBrian Simpson
Like, I don't think, I don't think it was ever intended for, for like, for politician to be like your job, for senator to be like-
- JRJoe Rogan
No
- BSBrian Simpson
... a lifetime.
- JRJoe Rogan
Lifetime. Crazy. And then all of a sudden you, you have hundreds of millions of dollars through a method no one could really explain.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Why you're so good at the stock market.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, and all y'all, and, and if I just, if I just follow all your, mirror all your stock trades perfectly. Yeah. Yeah, regardless of party-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's-
- BSBrian Simpson
... I somehow I get...
- JRJoe Rogan
You ever talk to DeRosa about it?
- BSBrian Simpson
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
DeRosa used to work for the Senate in Texas, and he's got crazy stories, crazy stories about how much money these people are getting. Donations, and this and that, and go and do this, and go and do that, and getting paid to do this, and paid to do that. That's most of what their job is, is fundraising and collecting money from people.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, yeah, and I, and I made the mistake of... 'Cause I, y- you know, I, I never give politicians money, like ever. It just doesn't make sense to me to give a rich motherfucker money. They like, "I need your money." I need money, right? I need you to go get me... I, but I, I don't donate to them hardly ever. And I made the mistake, I sent a politician money recently, and I, and, and then they just, they just never stop asking.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- BSBrian Simpson
Just every week. Like you, as soon as you put your email down-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm
- BSBrian Simpson
... they just, every week they're like, "Guys, we need-" [laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah
- BSBrian Simpson
"... I just need one more dollar." I was like, "I'm not giving you no fucking money." I-
- JRJoe Rogan
They were trying to, they were trying to raise money for the Democratic Party right after Kamala lost. They were sending out emails.
- BSBrian Simpson
Well, they, they're, they're always all in constant... That's why, that's why-
- JRJoe Rogan
Constant
- BSBrian Simpson
... that's why the, the, the political parties need to constantly keep you scared because th- that's the only way they can make sure you give them money.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
They tell you the sky is falling. If, "Hey, if we can't defeat them, it's the end of the world."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah, it's a dirty business, man.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah. There's peop- there's people that are s- that are struggling that are still giving politicians money.
- 43:43 – 52:43
Corruption logic, blackmail fears, and the ‘Weekend at Bernie’s’ gerontocracy
- BSBrian Simpson
You seen that meme of the guy that was like, "Co- corruption is not bad, and only when I am not involved." You know what I'm talking about?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah. He's like, w- but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Who's that? Idi Amin?
- BSBrian Simpson
No. [laughs] No, no. I wo-
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- BSBrian Simpson
I don't even, I don't think he was a famous dictator or whatever. He was just a, he was like this African politician. He was just saying, just telling people on the news like, "Corruption is not bad." It ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Let me hear this dude.
- SPSpeaker
I'm not involved. Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let me hear it. Start it over.
- BSBrian Simpson
Back it up.
- SPSpeaker
If I'm part of that corruption, I def- corruption is not bad. Corruption is only bad if I'm not involved. Yes. But if I'm part of that corruption, I'll defend it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, he's not talking about him. I guarantee you that guy is talking about people who are corrupt who defend corruption.
- BSBrian Simpson
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think they're taking him out of context. I don't think he's really saying that, that openly.
- BSBrian Simpson
I, you know what's funny? I've actually never looked into it.
- JRJoe Rogan
If I thought about that, I ... That guy doesn't look like a scumbag. The way he's saying it, to me, just my instinct, I could be wrong-
- BSBrian Simpson
Who i- who is he, Jeremy? You know him?
- JRJoe Rogan
Watch him. He's a massive thief. [laughs]
- BSBrian Simpson
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm totally wrong.
- BSBrian Simpson
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
Human rights activist Samson- Thank you ... Owimba Ol- Thank you ... Ojayo. Thank you.
- BSBrian Simpson
But did, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Thank you
- BSBrian Simpson
... what, do you, what was the-
- JRJoe Rogan
He goes by Samson
- BSBrian Simpson
... what's the context of that quote?
- JRJoe Rogan
Listen, he's a human rights activist. Let's leave it at that. Let's move on. [laughs] Longer speech. Yes. He was using irony. He used irony. Thank you.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh.
- 52:43 – 1:18:12
Moses, psychedelics, cult mechanics, and Nietzsche’s master/slave morality
- BSBrian Simpson
Wh- what, wasn't, weren't you telling me something about the Old Testament when I walked in?
- JRJoe Rogan
We were talking, Jamie was bringing up something about Moses. We're gonna bring that up.
- SPSpeaker
Let me get back to it. Hold on one second.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Um...
- SPSpeaker
Um, it was just, like, following the story of... Uh, I guess it'd be, like, literally following the story and just sort of, like, you know, putting it through a filter about things I know or we know now. Damn, I lost it. Hold on one second. Um, but, like, yeah, I guess what do you know about that story off the gate?
- JRJoe Rogan
Which part of the story?
- SPSpeaker
I don't know. I forgot what-
- JRJoe Rogan
You were talking about the Ten Commandments?
- SPSpeaker
Well, yeah, just how Moses found... That's [clears throat] Moses and the burning bush is Exodus 3. I guess that's how it's, like, titled. So that's where he finds the Ten Commandments. So he sees a burning bush, or a bush that is burning and not burning up, you know, like not being, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Consumed by the fire?
- SPSpeaker
Correct. [clears throat] And then an angel of God speaks to him, tells him to take off his shoes 'cause he's on holy ground. Uh, and then depending on which reading of the Bible or translation you're finding, he either finds the tablets or they're, like, presented to him or something. He then takes the tablets down off of the mountain, sees the people worshiping a golden calf, breaks the tablets, then they have to go make them again.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- SPSpeaker
And this is where I started getting in this place of where I was, like, read- researching, like, language and cuneiform and whatnot, and I'm like, how many people back then knew actually how to write, read? And then how, like, he... The other, like, we've gone on side tracks with it might be an acacia bush, and he might have been, you know, high on DMT or something like that.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, he was probably high.
- SPSpeaker
And so, like, m- it says he found them, so, like, did, what did he find, and-
- JRJoe Rogan
I think that's-
- SPSpeaker
... where'd they come from?
- JRJoe Rogan
... a big part of a lot of these ancient religious stories. And the, there's a- A bunch of scholars out of the University of Jerusalem that they, they first came up with this theory that the acacia tree, the burning bush was in fact a psychedelic plant. And this... Like, what happens when you smoke DMT? You have crazy experiences and visions. You meet entities. And this is probably what... He probably got a giant dose of DMT from a burning bush.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, I think that, that's also... Didn't Joseph Smith also find some tablets?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
The, the, the... I think, see, I'm always fascinated by people like the people that have founded religions and stuff. Because it's like, how charismatic do you have to be for people to, to buy that? For you to, like, go in the woods and come back and go, "Hey, I spoke to God and this, He told me these was all the rules. It's not me saying it." It's like, 'cause you... 'Cause think about who you would believe that would say that today.
- JRJoe Rogan
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- BSBrian Simpson
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
We are not... We don't immediately trust authority. We're, we're reluctant to believe people. We're very skeptical. You, you tell me something wacky, I'm like, "Wait, what happened? Where were you? You, you found a bush and the bush was on fire? Shut the fuck up."
- BSBrian Simpson
Especially if you start asking me for money.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. But there's a lot of people that they're not confident at all, and they're very easily, uh, persuaded, and those people fall in line. Like, people that fall into cults, like the cult that owned the building that, uh, I almost bought, that One World Theater that... Have you ever watched that documentary?
- BSBrian Simpson
Mm-mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
That guy, I mean, he was, he was basically an obvious kook. He was a gay porn star and a hypnotist, and developed this cult out of, uh, his yoga students. And if you've ever taken yoga before, very, it gets very culty. There's a lot of people that are teaching the yoga that they, they... Look, there's yoga teachers that are very cool, and just really cool, sp- peaceful, spiritual people that really enjoy teaching yoga and making people's lives better, for sure.
- BSBrian Simpson
This is-
- JRJoe Rogan
But there's also people that get into a position of power, like being the spiritual leader of a yoga class, and then they start abusing that power. That's the story of, like, Bikram. Like, if you r- you know, you ever watched the documentary on that guy-
- 1:18:12 – 1:30:20
Microbes, hygiene, and the ‘too clean’ problem: from Semmelweis to mouthwash
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, especially when you're dealing with Europeans that are living in these squalor-like conditions. So Native Americans lived in these nomadic, especially like the Comanche, nomadic tribal, uh, existence where they were ... They had tents and horses, and they were traveling around and going to different places. They didn't live in their own shit. So the Europeans were living in these fucking places where they'd take a pot of shit and throw it out the window. Their streets were filled with horseshit. They had shit everywhere.
- BSBrian Simpson
And they were wrong about [laughs] why people were getting sick. [laughs] You know, it's like they, they didn't realize, like, oh, the shit is in the drinking water.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's everywhere.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, they, they ... You ... 'Cause they, back then, that ... You know, there was a time where, like, they believed in, like, vapors and ... You know what I'm talking about? Like, that time where everything was, was spirits and in alignment.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- BSBrian Simpson
And, and they, and they just ... They were just completely wrong about ... why people were getting sick downriver. They, they, no one... It took a long time for people to connect that it was like, oh, because we're shitting up here and then we're pumping our drinking water-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the first doctor to realize that you should wash your fucking hands before you, uh, operate on people or, or give birth or help someone give birth, those, no one thought that was necessary. They didn't realize, like, you're, you have deser- disease, you have germs in your fucking hands. And he was ridiculed. The first doctor that said that, "I think we should wash our hands," like, "Get the fuck out of here."
- BSBrian Simpson
Who was that guy?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't-
- BSBrian Simpson
We, why don't we celebrate that guy?
- JRJoe Rogan
I know. We should. I think probably the medical establishment probably does.
- BSBrian Simpson
I mean, he might, he may have saved more lives than anyone.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Yeah. I mean, you gotta think, before they had microscopes, they were just guessing.
- BSBrian Simpson
Well, at least when did, when did it start being a thing to wash your hands?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, for physicians, here's the guy. Ignaz Semmelweis.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, that's why we don't celebrate him. Your name's hard to say.
- JRJoe Rogan
Too rough.
- BSBrian Simpson
You can't have too, you can't have too hard names.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hungarian medical doctor and scientist of German descent who was an early pioneer of antiseptic procedures, known as the savior of mothers. Postpartum infection, also known as purpura, pur- pur- purpura, puerperal fever or childbed fever, was common in the 19th century and often fatal. Semmelweis demonstrated that the incidence of infection could be drastically reduced by requiring healthcare workers in obstetrical clinics to disinfect their hands. In 1847, he proposed hand washing with chlorinated lime solutions at Vienna General Hospital's first obstetrical clinic, where doctors' wards had thrice the mortality of midwives' wards. Wow.
- BSBrian Simpson
I think it's obstetrical.
- JRJoe Rogan
Obstetrical?
- BSBrian Simpson
But I don't feel like we have to say it again.
- JRJoe Rogan
Obstetrical. It's funny how you can live to-
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh
- JRJoe Rogan
... 59 years old and never have said a word.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then it just shows up.
- SPSpeaker
How many times do you say thrice?
- JRJoe Rogan
Thrice. I'm gonna say it all the time now.
- BSBrian Simpson
[laughs] I mean-
- 1:30:20 – 1:58:26
Great Lakes, ice age mysteries, and disaster footage from Nepal
- JRJoe Rogan
He came from a moneyed background and received a good education. As a young man, he spoke several languages and dressed in d- a dandified manner, and after his fiancee died on their wedding day, he just said, "Fuck it." He gave up on life. Why also ... Why does it say Iran Portal right there? Probably 'cause it's propaganda. I don't know what that's all about. They're trying to get us. Um, I've, uh ... Did you know that we renamed Lake Ontario today? Yes. To Lake America. Lake America. [laughs] Lake Ontario's no longer Lake Ontario. It's Lake America. And we might be doing the Lake Atlantic next.
- BSBrian Simpson
Why would, why did we do that?
- JRJoe Rogan
We might be doing Atlantic and Pacific? Could be. I saw- What are we gonna name them? I don't know what the Pacific-
- BSBrian Simpson
The ocean?
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs] Yeah. But Lake Ontario has been Lake Ontario forever. Isn't it connected to Ontario? Yeah, it said it has something to do with Trump.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, and what about the-
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's in, it's in America or it's in Canada? Parts in Ontario, correct?
- SPSpeaker
Par- Oh, it's the Great Lakes, so I mean, it touches both
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, both, all the lakes touch both-
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, but-
- SPSpeaker
In the middle
- JRJoe Rogan
... what percentage of the land is on, um, Canada versus America?
- SPSpeaker
I think it's literally... I, I mean, I, I could look it up-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, let's look it up
- SPSpeaker
... other than the map, but it's f- I think on the map right there-
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's see whose side we're on
- BSBrian Simpson
No, but also-
- SPSpeaker
... on the map, I think it's 50/50.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's crazy.
- SPSpeaker
But I don't know if it's exact 50/50.
- BSBrian Simpson
But also, President Trump, you gotta stop fucking with the acronyms, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well-
- BSBrian Simpson
'Cause I learned the Great Lakes, but I've learned HOMES. That's how you know, that's how you can name all the lakes, right? How they gonna teach the kids now?
- JRJoe Rogan
HOMES?
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you mean?
- BSBrian Simpson
Lake, Lake Huron, Lake Ontario, Lake Michigan, um, what's the next? E- Lake Erie, and Lake Superior.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, the, yeah, acronym. Okay. I didn't learn that.
- BSBrian Simpson
No?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think so.
- 1:58:26 – 2:28:55
You can’t quit the adrenaline: fighter injuries, Toradol culture, and career decline
- JRJoe Rogan
No. Have you seen those, um, the video of Tiger Woods, the recent video?
- BSBrian Simpson
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Where people are freaking out at how bad he looks? He's, I forget what the video's for. He's talking to somebody about something, like he's a- addressing someone, and you look at him, you're like, "What happened?" He looks so bad.
- BSBrian Simpson
What do you mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
And this is after, you know, he got a DUI fairly recently, and he's had mul-
- BSBrian Simpson
Another one
- JRJoe Rogan
... another one, and he's had multiple surgeries, right? He's had his back fused. He had that horrible accident where his leg got destroyed, and they had to put it back together again. Like, he's got one leg that's just destroyed.
- BSBrian Simpson
From the car accident.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- BSBrian Simpson
From the drinking.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Where... I don't know what it was. I think it was... They, it's, whether it's DUI, meaning under the influence of alcohol, or under the influence of pills. The problem with these back surgeries, 'cause when people get back fusions and back surgery, a lot of times they're in pain all the time. And here's your choice, be in pain all the time or be on pills all the time. Like, look at what he looks like.
- BSBrian Simpson
Ah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Full screen.
- SPSpeaker
To defend him, though, you almost never see him without a hat. He's g- got a fucking bad tan line.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, I mean, he just looks... Uh, I mean, he doesn't look that bad to me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Play it. Play it.
- SPSpeaker
He's talking about, I don't know what he's talking about. 17 years old, uh, playing in the Junior World, and you came over to watch me play, and our friendship has started there- This guy, I've never seen him with a beard ... and it's never ended.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's never had facial hair.
- SPSpeaker
Seeing what you've done off the golf course- Yeah, I mean, he's talking about it good, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, maybe you could attribute it to bad lighting, but he looks pale, and he looks sick.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, that's just a shitty camera.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, a shitty camera.
- JRJoe Rogan
It could be, but it's also a guy who's had a lot of problems with pills.
- BSBrian Simpson
Hm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So I think it's fair to make that assumption-
- BSBrian Simpson
That he looks like shit right there?
- JRJoe Rogan
... that there's something has to do with the fact that this guy's had a serious pill problem.
- BSBrian Simpson
I mean, but that, that... He just looked reg- I mean, I guess I don't look at the things good enough to know.
- JRJoe Rogan
How many times has Tiger Woods been arrested for DUI?
- BSBrian Simpson
Well, he looked regular.
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