EVERY SPOKEN WORD
140 min read · 28,204 words- 0:00 – 0:02
Intro
- JRJoe Rogan
[upbeat music]
- 0:02 – 1:16
Tyler Engle’s “rabbit-hole” Instagram and why Rogan’s hooked
- JRJoe Rogan
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music] Tyler.
- TETyler Engle
What's up, dude?
- JRJoe Rogan
What's happening, brother? Thank you very much for being here. I love your fucking Instagram.
- TETyler Engle
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
You, you have a rabbit hole of an Instagram, dude.
- TETyler Engle
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so good. Your latest one on Noah's Ark is really fucking interesting because I knew about the scans, but I did not know about the connections to the Sumerian text and how he was referred to on the Kings list.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Let's... I send it to you, Jamie?
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just to start off, just, uh, 'cause I wanna really blow up your Instagram 'cause it's so good, dude.
- TETyler Engle
Thanks, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
My pleasure. I, it's so many times where I'm doom scrolling.
- TETyler Engle
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
I find that I'm like, "Oh-
- TETyler Engle
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
... I'm learning something. This is justifiable." So this is, um, it's called BassForge.us. That's Tyler's, uh, Instagram, and, uh, this is all about these new scans. And, uh, they dug into it today, I think.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Today or yesterday.
- TETyler Engle
It's been-
- JRJoe Rogan
And-
- TETyler Engle
... two days
- JRJoe Rogan
... they think that they hit petrified wood, which is really interesting. This whole thing is very weird, but let's, let's just hit this.
- 1:16 – 6:59
New Mount Ararat scans, “Noah’s Ark,” and local-vs-global flood logic
- TETyler Engle
New scans from Turkey, Mount Ararat, the Noah's Ark location. They got a new little drone out there that's using the same technology that they used to find the Hawara Labyrinth in Egypt recently. Mind you, both of these were not taken seriously by the mainstream. I'm still skeptical, but the evidence is getting a little overwhelming. 'Cause the Earth is not lying. Mount Ararat is almost 17,000 feet high, straddled by two of the saltiest lakes on Earth, and a dry one to the south. How did it get there? Most people confuse the flood with the Younger Dryas event. That is way too far back in history. The nearby town of Shuruppak was buried in 50 feet of mud. That mud was dated very close to the mud that is covering this structure. But Shuruppak is very interesting. That is where Noah was from. The ancient Sumerians called Noah Ziusudra, the last king on the Sumerian Kings list before the flood. These guys were a megalithic culture, meaning they could work really big, really hard rocks. Their temples are so destroyed, there are 10-ton stones just laying out in the middle of nowhere that got thrown off the top of a mountain. But that's very important because these guys could work really big stones. And right by the site of this ark are these things. What are these things? These are called drogue stones. You see the hole in the top of them? You fit a rope or a chain through that. They're anchor stones. They're found in ancient Greek and Roman ports. What they would do is suspend them off of the boat to keep it stable in rocky water or anchored. Noah's Ark didn't have a mast or anything to steer it. It was the largest ship ever built and meant only to survive this one event. They'd need to be that big for a ship that large, and those dimensions are exceptionally close to what we see in the ground. I put this site and the temples in Hidden History, free update. Explore it. Okay, for real though, how much more evidence do we need? Just dig the thing out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I think they are trying to at least slowly excavate that area-
- TETyler Engle
Yeah, yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... and figure out what it is. But just the story itself, it seems like, as written, so preposterous, that the, all of the animals on Earth were put on, you know, two of each on a boat, and then the flood came, and then afterwards they repopulated the Earth.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It seems like a ridiculous simplification of something that was probably at least somewhat true.
- TETyler Engle
I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, I don't think that they had all the animals on the boat, 'cause that doesn't make any sense. There's not enough room. You know, animals eat other animals. There's a lot of... But it does seem like there was some, probably multiple events throughout history, but some sort of an event that they're documenting.
- TETyler Engle
That, that one's well-documented, actually. The one in Turkey was, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
The flood?
- TETyler Engle
Yeah, 3000 BC or so, I think was the... Around that area. There was multiple, and that's where you see all this, um, like the Temple of Ionis. Uh, that whole region there has flood evidence.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TETyler Engle
But it's not Younger Dryas flood evidence, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's also probably not global.
- TETyler Engle
It's not. That's what, that's, uh, I think an important distinction that a lot of these places make is, uh, they have similar stories, but they probably weren't the same day, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TETyler Engle
It could have been sequential. Like, some, some event's gonna happen somewhere and cause this, and then another one's gonna happen over here and cause this. But the Mediterranean ar- that area is very unique because it's basically surrounded by mountains, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TETyler Engle
Like, there's this giant, from Iran to all the way to Greece, mountain range that's kind of protecting-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. So how does it have a saltwater lake?
- TETyler Engle
That's what... So, so-
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- TETyler Engle
... so Lake Van is really interesting because there, Lake Van has, like, a volcan- volcanic, um, origin, right? There's a volcano underneath it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TETyler Engle
And so there's, like, mineral deposits there, but it's one of the saltiest lakes at, around. Uh, you know, the Dead Sea is really close to it as well, so.
- JRJoe Rogan
What about the Great Salt Lake in Utah?
- TETyler Engle
Uh, I don't... I think it's a little... I think it's saltier than... It's a soda lake. So Lake Van is a soda. It's, like, carbonate. And then, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh
- TETyler Engle
... the Great Salt Lake is, like, pure salt lake, same as the Dead Sea, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- 6:59 – 15:11
Giants, Denisovans, and why myths keep turning into archaeology headlines
- JRJoe Rogan
So many things that I used to think were nonsense.
- TETyler Engle
The Nephilim stuff?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And now I'm like, "Hey."
- TETyler Engle
Denisovans.
- JRJoe Rogan
The, the giant stuff, for sure.
- TETyler Engle
[laughs] Yeah, giants.
- JRJoe Rogan
Giants, for sure. I am almost all in on giants.
- TETyler Engle
[laughs] I think, I think we're all almost all in there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It just seems like there's too much ... There's just too many t- stories.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's too many tales. I don't know what it means. Like, does it mean the mountain from Game of Thrones? You know what I mean? Like, that's a giant.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Especially compared to me.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That guy standing next to me, like Brian Shaw. Do you know who Brian Shaw is?
- TETyler Engle
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Brian Shaw was in the mothership the other day.
- TETyler Engle
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
He's, uh, 400 fucking pounds. He's like seven feet tall. He's the biggest fucking human you, you've ever seen in your life.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
His bone structure is so dense that he is one of ... I think it's ... What ... I think there's like five or six people on Earth that have the same density of b- of bone as this guy.
- TETyler Engle
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it's, it's some insane number. Some insane number.
- TETyler Engle
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like one out of 500 million people-
- TETyler Engle
And where does-
- JRJoe Rogan
... have his bone structure.
- TETyler Engle
Where does that genetic-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right
- TETyler Engle
... come from? Where, where-
- 15:11 – 16:13
Writing, history-keeping, and the “fully formed” mystery of hieroglyphs
- TETyler Engle
That's, that's another thing that throws a monkey wrench in the whole Egypt thing too, is like, hieroglyphs appear fully formed and sophisticated.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TETyler Engle
It's not like there was a ... You, you can see the evolution of that. You start at, like, Old Kingdom, and it is flawless. It's like engineering language right there. And so where's the ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TETyler Engle
How?
- JRJoe Rogan
How?
- TETyler Engle
How?
- JRJoe Rogan
Where does it start from?
- TETyler Engle
So it's a group of five dudes over here, like, "Okay, we're gonna make the cartouche and we're gonna do this, and this symbol means this." No, it just shows up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the, the idea that we have a, we have a complete understanding of the past is just ... We should just start from there, 'cause that's foolish.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And one of the things that you detail so well is some of these temples, and the sound that resonates out of these temples, and some of them that are just carved right into a mountain with incredible precision.
- TETyler Engle
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And we don't understand how. We don't really know when.
- TETyler Engle
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just kinda guesswork when.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And we have no idea what equipment they used, because-
- TETyler Engle
No
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's, it's not possible they did that with other rocks.
- TETyler Engle
No. The-
- JRJoe Rogan
So what did they do?
- 16:13 – 20:31
Kailasa Temple: carved-from-mountain precision and the tool problem
- TETyler Engle
So that, that, the ... I made a K- Kailasa Temple video a couple weeks ago, and it was like, that's the one that's in India carved straight out of the mountain, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Out of volcanic rock.
- TETyler Engle
Basalt, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That is insanely hard.
- TETyler Engle
I got, I got so much blowback that that was soapstone or that was this stone, and there's this, there's a YouTube channel called Proto Civilization. They did this experiment where this dude took a pickaxе, hardened steel pickaxе, and they measured how much of volume they could remove from the mountain on, like, behind Kailasa, like, not near the temple. They, they removed like a, an area about this big, maybe that deep. They had the scans for it.
- JRJoe Rogan
So you're, you're m- like six inches and like a half of a six inch deep.
- TETyler Engle
Maybe. Maybe a half inch deep. And-
- JRJoe Rogan
And how long did they work at it?
- TETyler Engle
Four hours.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- TETyler Engle
And these dudes were huge. [laughs] These dudes were, were gassed out, and the ... it was only, yeah, a six-inch little thing. And they-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm
- TETyler Engle
... when they were doing the calculations, like, there's no way that the population even working nonstop could do that. And then they tried to destroy that temple, and you couldn't destroy the temple with the tools they had, so how did they make it? That's-
- JRJoe Rogan
And they have g- guys trying to destroy the temple. What was the timeline that they were trying to destroy the temple?
- TETyler Engle
Oh, dude, they were like-
- JRJoe Rogan
It was like 100 guys for like two years.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah. Years.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, and they barely scratched it.
- TETyler Engle
And that's what we still have left.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- TETyler Engle
Two years, 100 dudes, nonstop. [laughs] And the temple's still there.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they couldn't get anything done. It's, it's really kind of funny.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because it, it, it begs the question: What was the technology? And we need to really open our minds to the possibility that there was a civilization that had achieved some sort of a technological sophistication that we don't understand. We don't know what the technology was. We don't know why they had it, what they did with it, but there was something going on. And I think Kailasa is one of the best pieces of evidence that's like, you know, remember the Arsenio Hall Show?
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The things that make you go, "Hmm?"
- TETyler Engle
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is a thing that make you go, "Hmm."
- TETyler Engle
[laughs] Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
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- 20:31 – 23:16
Egyptian megastructures in practice: moving Ramses, quarry realities, and scale shocks
- TETyler Engle
... hilarious. Yeah, I ... To me, that's what got me into all of this, is like, you know, obviously Graham stuff and a bunch of, like, this community is, there's a bunch of things that kinda shake your worldview up. But when I started l- looking into this, they were building the Grand Egyptian Museum, and they had to move the statue of Ramses. You know which one I'm talking about?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Yeah.
- TETyler Engle
The giant one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TETyler Engle
So if you go to that museum, like, the pictures don't do it justice. You're standing and you're looking at his shin. A- and there's, like, a pool around it, you know? I almost fell into the pool. Uh, you look at-
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- TETyler Engle
[laughs] It's, it's kinda hard to see. But yeah, you're staring at his shin, and you look up, and you're like, "Okay." In the cartoo- yeah, that's the one. So [laughs] you, you barely come up to his shin. And, you know, Ramses put his, his thing on everything. But, like, it's funny that you look at his face, and his face, that, that Egyptian face, is a very generic face. It doesn't look like Ramses. If you look at Ramses as a, as his mummy, it does not look like Ramses.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- TETyler Engle
So th- he did this a lot, though. He put his cartouche on literally everything in Egypt.
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course.
- TETyler Engle
But, um, s- it's funny 'cause when they moved this, they had to use a enormous truck with huge steel beams to solidify it. Yeah, that's the one. Look at this thing. [laughs] That's what I was like.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- TETyler Engle
[laughs] It's like, okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Holy shit.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah. So, so that's-
- JRJoe Rogan
How many tons is this thing?
- TETyler Engle
Oh, dude, it's crazy. I think it's in 200. It's in, it's outta granite.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- TETyler Engle
It's a big boy. 400 tons?
- JRJoe Rogan
400 tons? What's that, Jamie?
- SPSpeaker
It says 83 tons-
- JRJoe Rogan
83 tons
- SPSpeaker
... before it got covered up.
- TETyler Engle
So but you have to assume that, that the block that they had to r- to get out of the quarry was at least 200 to, to get, you know, to remove the material around it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah
- TETyler Engle
... and stuff, so. But what I'm, what the point is, uh, there had to be a special road, a special trailer, a big truck, and all the stuff to move this thing, and that's us now. Now do that in, uh, sand, no sand, or no roads with just sand, putting water on the sand and rolling it on logs from Lebanon that are really not that compressively strong. So, like, [laughs] uh, all of it to my engineering brain was just, was d- absurd. And so I keep having these things, and then, like, the Lacma stone, the 300-ton boulder they put at the museum, you know? The, the process they went through on a perfectly flat ... I think Jimmy Corsetti was the one that brought that one up and, like, uh, just having those examples is very eye-opening to the how, what tool, w- what equipment, what ... You know? It, it, it melts my brain, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TETyler Engle
I, I, and I went to school for this, and I had to, you know, do a lot of these calculations. I worked in construction. I worked in, uh, restorat- building restoration. I've had to do all of these things, and you can't move, like, a boom lift on certain roads because it'll cave the road in, and those things don't weigh as much as a [censored] Ramses statue.
- 23:16 – 32:06
Gatekeepers, career incentives, and Tyler’s path into ‘hidden history’ research
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just so weird how these conventional archeologists will dismiss any ideas that are outside of this linear timeline theory.
- TETyler Engle
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they, "Oh, they were just really smart back then."
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They, they figured it out with copper tools and sand and this and that. Like-
- TETyler Engle
But that's-
- JRJoe Rogan
... it doesn't even make sense. None of it makes sense.
- TETyler Engle
They say they're really smart, but they also don't believe the mythology or the kings list or anything like that. It's a simultaneous, "Oh, they were super smart, but this stuff was imaginary," you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TETyler Engle
The stuff they put on the walls wasn't real, but the, how they built it was, was real.
- JRJoe Rogan
It ha- it, it gets to a certain point where they can't explain it away, and then they go into imagination instead of saying, "Hey, maybe we don't have a full picture of this."
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, may- look, what we can do today is so preposterous that it looks like magic to anybody that lived 200 years ago. We all know that.
- TETyler Engle
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, just, I drove here in a Tesla. It goes zero to 60 in under two seconds. It, I press a button, it drives me home.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What? [laughs] Imagine that, explaining that to someone 200 years ago. "I left the club last night-
- TETyler Engle
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
... and I was on the phone with a buddy of mine, and I just pressed do, do, and it just takes me home."
- TETyler Engle
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
"I don't even have to pay attention."
- TETyler Engle
[laughs] You have a global communication device in your pocket-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Yeah
- TETyler Engle
... that can access all the u- all the world's information.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I'm on-
- TETyler Engle
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... the phone with a guy who lives in Connecticut.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And we're talking.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- 32:06 – 37:18
Baalbek, Phoenician builders, Templars, and the Western Wall “mega-block”
- TETyler Engle
I think it's Phoenician, honestly. Phoe-
- JRJoe Rogan
Phoenician
- TETyler Engle
... Phoenician. Yeah. Phoenician Canaanites.
- JRJoe Rogan
So what year are we talking that?
- TETyler Engle
I ... One, I think Baalbek is pre-flood. I'm pr- pretty convinced that it's pre-flood. The least the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Pre-flood, Younger Dryas Flood?
- TETyler Engle
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... or pre ... Yeah.
- TETyler Engle
At least, at least the base of it. 'Cause you can see there's like a, there's an outer wall, and the, they're huge stones, and then there's the inner temple wall, right? There's a discoloration between the two. The, like, one is clearly older than the other, at least in repairs. You can see clear lay- layers of repair, right? But the, the Canaanite, the Phoenician Canaanites were, they helped build the temple, Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem. And in the, uh, underground of that temple is a stone that's damn near just as big as the Trilithon stones. It's just not open to the public. You don't see it a lot. You have to do it as a private tour.
- JRJoe Rogan
Are, are there photos online?
- TETyler Engle
Yeah. Uh, I think it's a Western Wall, Jamie. Um, it's ... Uh, I, I don't know the estimates of it, 'cause I don't know how deep it is, but it looks enormous. And so they would help, uh, the Egyptians build, too. So they were kind of like a contractor, essentially. They were really good at, um, sailing, navigation, st- and, uh, they could move really big fucking rocks. And so that's ... The legends are, um, linked kind of by the Templar tradition, if you know, uh, any of that back story.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not really.
- TETyler Engle
Like T-
- JRJoe Rogan
Not much of it
- TETyler Engle
... you know, Timothy Hogan, the, the Knights Templar master?
- JRJoe Rogan
I've, I, I've heard of it, but I don't know much about the history of it.
- TETyler Engle
So, so they, they kind of are the, the bridge informationally between where all of this is coming from, because they were the first ones to excavate in Jerusalem, uh, off the record. You know, they were, uh, the Templars were supposed to guard pilgrims when they were, you know, going to the sacred sites. But that was, like, their front, and then the back was were, were excavating in Egypt and Jerusalem, and you see their graffiti everywhere. There's Templar graffiti on, uh, Philae Temple in Egypt and, uh, a whole bunch of places. In the, that, the Noah's Ark stones, the, the anchor stones, those are Templar crosses. Those aren't Christian crosses.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- TETyler Engle
So you'll ... It's the, uh, the angled, the angled cross. You know, where the V's and they go in.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TETyler Engle
That's the Templar cross. So their graffiti is kind of everywhere they went, that's where they would, they would leave their mark saying that that's, you know, one, to communicate to other Templars that this was a site that they'd been to, but also saying that there's something here that's important.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm. Jamie, did you find that f- um, Western Wall stone?
- SPSpeaker
Walls. I mean, I'm not sure exactly which one I'm supposed to be ... On the screen. I don't know which one. I don't know if that's it or ...
- TETyler Engle
Uh, no. S- you wanna say Western Wall ... No, Jerusalem Western Wall.
- SPSpeaker
Oh. Well.
- JRJoe Rogan
Baalbek is the-
- TETyler Engle
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... there it goes.
- SPSpeaker
It's, uh ...
- TETyler Engle
Um.
- 37:18 – 41:29
Exotic metals in cut marks, microspherules, and plasma/cavitation hypotheses
- TETyler Engle
And this time it's not what's in the sand, it's what's in the rock. Exotic metals from the cutting tool have been found lodged inside the rock, and they're typically only found in asteroids and meteorites. They've also been found in megalithic sites all over the world. Back in February, I was in the largest and crispiest temple in all of Egypt, Karnak.
- JRJoe Rogan
Crispy. [laughs]
- TETyler Engle
I had watched this video by Versadoko, and it was saying how these are unexplainable cut marks because the cuts are microscopically small. There's no reasonable explanation for a cut that sharp even today without lasers. This research team got a sample, and they were looking for exotic metals that the Egyptians did not have, which they found, but they also found these. Let me explain what these lines are. When we cut granite today, we use giant saws. These saws leave a circular tool mark like the stone my dog Harvey is guarding. What was found in the Karnak stones were perfectly straight lines, which means, in layman's terms, that something was cutting it more like butter than like a circular saw. Anytime you cut anything, it leaves a mark. Inside those marks are microscopic cracks where pieces of the tool can embed itself, but that typically only happens with high-speed rotation. So they got their hands on another sample from Dashur. This one has a sloping cut, which is insanely difficult to manufacture. In this one, they found three elements that are typically only used in the cooling circuits of nuclear reactors. When they compared this ancient cut to a modern cut of the same material, the only difference was the aged appearance. Now, the material they found the most of was copper. It was an alloy that the Egyptians could not have produced enough heat to make. Best guess was that they used chemical salts to intensify a natural reaction to create more heat. To create the metal, they would need microscopic precision in the mixture. That is something that we do for electronic circuits. Atomic-level imperfections are introduced in silicon to produce transistors. But just by doing that, a simple rock gets transformed into something that can show you me. But we haven't even got to the wildest part. Microspherules were also found in the samples. These only come from cosmic impacts, volcanoes, lightning strikes, geological processes, and human industrial processes. It happens when something gets really hot and cools really fast. These were found in Dashur, in Baalbek, in Iran, and pretty much everywhere that has megalithic architecture. Well, how do we rule out geology? Baalbek. A typical meteorite, meteorites have about one per square meter. Baalbek had three per centimeter. One thing that can do this is something called cavitation. If you symmetrically compress a water bubble, it'll release energy. It's the main reason that propellers on boats get worn out so fast. Here you can see what happens in this gear. You can see it happening in this gear, but there's another way to do it. If you hit aluminum foil with ultrasonic frequencies, it creates these holes. With the right frequency, silver is a byproduct. Now, there has been demonstrations of vibrating a rock and then putting a tube drill with weight on top of it, and it will actually drill the hole itself. Now, with water involved, there could be a cavitation effect going on there, but this has not been studied. What is for sure is there is some atomic alchemy going on. This is on page 67 of Cryptex if you'd like to further explore that concept. There are two huge issues with the normal explanation. One, it does not make sense. Two, it does not fund the haircut that I desperately need.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- TETyler Engle
And that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Glad a haircut, haircut, uh, ending made it. Well, the, the whole thing about the, the cutting of these things is we're trying to rationalize, or we're trying to explain it away using what we use today.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And there's a very real possibility that technology was super advanced, but in a different direction-
- TETyler Engle
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... that we haven't pursued. If you think about, like, the directions that we pursued with internal combustion engines, electronics, electricity, all the different things that we use as technology today, that's just the way we went with the ingenuity that human beings possess. It doesn't mean-
- TETyler Engle
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... that these people had to go that way, and it seems like they probably went a different way, and we don't really know what that way is.
- 41:29 – 53:31
Hutchison effect, “hidden tools,” and Sumerian cones as possible energy focusing devices
- TETyler Engle
I, I, I think it's an easier way than we're doing it, though. Like, there's, a lot of the, that science that I was just talking about there is a lot cheaper to run these experiments. You, you f- you familiar with John Hutchison?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- TETyler Engle
So back in the '80s, he made this lab that he called the submarine, and it was just, uh, this amalgamation of, of, uh, Tesla coils and frequency generators, and he was monitoring, like, Earth frequencies and cosmic stuff, and he was able to get objects to levitate. And he was, he could, um, he could, uh, basically jellify metal and embed metals within other metals, and he was just messing around with some frequencies. And eventually his work got classified, and he was kinda, y- I think the Canadian government confiscated it, and so that, it was, like, shoved under the rug. But his samples survived. And so the samples that he had got, uh, acquired by a guy named Bob Grenier And he's been doing s- uh, analysis on these things, and he found the same microspherules that are in the ancient stones that, the unexplainable ones, in John Hutchison's samples. So there's a link here between this plasma physics, this low-energy plasma physics, and the, the ancient stuff. And the way we're going is very high energy physic- Like, the Large Hadron Collider, like CERN, that stuff is, is enormously energy-consuming. Like, the, the s- the experiments they do there c- have to, like, shut power grids off, right? This stuff you can run, uh, in a room. Like, it just, it's just basically, it's, it's putting it- manipulating plasma through matter in a symmetrical geometric way, and it produces these really weird results. And there's a lot of ... And, and the best way to describe it is, is transmutation, like, like old-school alchemy.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, so here's a question. Like, what, what were they using to make this happen?
- TETyler Engle
S- this is the ... So, so Bob explains it really well, but I think I- and I'm not, like, 100% on this, but there was a tool that we are mistaking for, for an artifact, if that makes sense. There was a tool that doesn't look like a tool, and it, I think what they were doing is, it, you know the scoop mark tool, like the one that you see-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm
- TETyler Engle
... in Egypt and everywhere else? It looks like something that you would, th- it might be so simple, is what I'm saying, that we don't recognize it as a tool. So m- so within their system of doing things, whether it was generating power or frequencies that were able to be, uh, you know, passed through the human body, because this plasma physics, like all this new stuff, the plasma can go through your, through your body and not harm you. There's, there's safe ways to do it. And if you can, if you can transmit it to an object, and this is where the, the ancient, like, cone stuff gets really, really interesting. And-
- JRJoe Rogan
Cone stuff.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah, so, like, the pine cone from the, the Sumerian stuff-
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh
- TETyler Engle
... where the guy's h- giving a pine cone out. There's these things called votive cones. Have you ever heard of those?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- TETyler Engle
Jamie, look up V-O-T-I-V cones. They would put these cones. They would, they'd put a cunif- cuneiform inscription on these cones, and they would embed them in the temple walls. It was basically like a, uh, cornerstone or, like, a consecration of the temple. And what they were, they don't look like they would be significant in any way to the construction process, but we see these cones all over the place. That's it, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- TETyler Engle
So basically, they're, they're, uh ... Yeah, type of foundational deposit. For important buildings, uh. Yeah, historical memory of the ruler and his achievements. But I don't ... I, I think this is another misinterpretation of what these are.
- SPSpeaker
Also, yeah, this is the Met Museum's ob- like, official-
- TETyler Engle
Yeah
- SPSpeaker
... stance on it.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah, of course. I-
- JRJoe Rogan
So what do you think this is?
- TETyler Engle
So I think this was a way of focusing this type of energy. So the same rock, which-
- JRJoe Rogan
That little thing is?
- TETyler Engle
Yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
How big is that thing?
- TETyler Engle
It's, like, handheld. You could-
- SPSpeaker
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
So you think that stone with those writings on was how they focused energy?
- TETyler Engle
So the, the way that this stuff works is it, they basically embed themselves in the stone. These little plasma objects. They're called plasmoids. They basically embed themselves-
- JRJoe Rogan
That is so cool looking.
- TETyler Engle
Right?
- 53:31 – 1:14:04
Egypt’s ‘hardware/software/wetware’: temples as operating systems and humans as interfaces
- TETyler Engle
I don't think they came up with that. I think there's two classes. Like the Osirian, the Osire shaft, and Great Pyramid, those are classified, in my p- opinion, as hardware and infrastructure. Whereas the temples, like Luxor Karnak and the, the ones that you would traditionally think of as Egyptian, those are the software layer, the operating system of how to use this stuff, right? So you have two separate things. And then you have, in the middle, you have the wetware. That's the human. So the wetware can be programmed essentially using the infrastructure and the instructions. So that, to me, doesn't seem to, this whole system does not seem to be invented by the dynastic culture. It seems to have been interpreted by them, maybe through a representative of the prior culture. That's, like, the, the kind of the Graham idea of, you know, maybe there were survivors. They knew how to work it. They came, they told these guys how to work it, and then they got a little cocky with it.
- JRJoe Rogan
And when we say the original culture- Like, you, are you talking about, like, the Kings List?
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're, you're talking about, like-
- TETyler Engle
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... these people that supposedly lived for thousands and thousands of years?
- TETyler Engle
Yeah. I, I don't think they were, um... I mean, especially with mummification and stuff, I don't, I think they knew how to, like, reinhabit, reincarnate intentionally into another body essentially, you know, so they could continue that similarly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Where do you get this from?
- TETyler Engle
What do you mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Where'd you get this idea from?
- TETyler Engle
I mean, the, the mummification idea is, is how they passed on knowledge. That's, that's like Egyptian lore. That's, that's their, that's how they did it. The, so, so Horus is the s- is the sun god on Earth, right? He, the, the, the wisdom of Horus gets transmitted to every successive pharaoh. So you would go through the training, through the, the temple complexes, and you would go up the Nile, and you would learn what you need to learn at each temple. Each temple has a theme. Exa- It, like, every single one of them is trying to teach a life lesson, philosophical lesson, history lesson. And so you would, you would take that initiatic path, and then at the end of that path, you would be a- anointed as the sun god on Earth, right? But that was a process that you had to basically tune your, your brain receiver to, to handle, right? So it's like I can't go to the gym and immediately hop on and bench 405, right? I have to spend years and years training and, and working up to it. But once I hit that 405, I am, I'm crowned the champion if I, if that's my, uh, you know, personal best or if I'm at a competition, right? Their crowning of the champion would, would be downloading the previous memories of the, the prior pharaoh. It was a transfer of, of consciousness essentially. I was, I was-- Have you seen the show Altered Carbon on Netflix?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- TETyler Engle
Like, they have the sleeves-
- JRJoe Rogan
I watched-
- TETyler Engle
... the chips
- JRJoe Rogan
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- TETyler Engle
The, I think that was a similar process to what they were doing, but they did it without, like, a technological barrier.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, so the idea-- Is this, like, similar to the idea of the Dalai Lama? Like the Dalai Lama-
- TETyler Engle
Yeah, kind of
- JRJoe Rogan
... like, each, each person is, like, a reincarnated version of the Dalai Lama, and they have to go out and find who it is.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So the idea is that these people didn't live that long. It's not like they lived for tens of thousands of years. But the, the essence of who they were was transported into another vehicle-
- TETyler Engle
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... another body.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Why, but why do you come up with this idea?
- TETyler Engle
Uh, I th- 'cause I think it was a developmental process in, uh, one, I think we would maybe see some evidence of, of it, and I think that the, it's r- kind of right in front of our face. The mummification phenomenon is just weird in general, you know? It's, it's just a w- a, an outlier in terms of history of, of a process that we don't really understand. And I think what that was was a, uh, I, I would, I call it a quantum anchor in, in my terminology. And, uh, what I mean by that is, like, it's a bookmark that can access a certain amount of memory from, from another person, right? So what, what the Egyptians d- would do is... Have you seen a f- like, the full casket of a mummy? The, it's layered. There's huge-- There's, like, the outer stone layer, and there's a wood layer, and then they just keep getting, like, it's like a Russian doll.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TETyler Engle
It's a nested Russian doll. They're, they're selective with their materials, though. The sel- the, the selection of materials is, in my opinion, what they would do to, like, keep that frequency in that particular mummy. They would hold onto that frequency, and then when, whenever a new pharaoh would come in, they would basically have a ceremony, probably involve psychedelics of some sort, and download that previous pharaoh's memories, and knowledge, and wisdom, and all that stuff. And so they could continue the, the, the reign based off of inherited wisdom instead of me talking to you about the lessons that I learned in my life. You directly experience them through a altered state of consciousness.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm. You know about Rupert Sheldrake's, uh, theory of morphic resonance?
- 1:14:04 – 1:26:05
Afterlife “spells” as prompts: Book of Caverns imagery, unknown entities, and lost meanings
- JRJoe Rogan
Jamie, see if you can find the hieroglyphs of the path to the after world, or the afterlife.
- TETyler Engle
I think it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause-
- TETyler Engle
... KV7. I think it's, that's, that's Ramesses-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah
- TETyler Engle
... um, burial chamber.
- JRJoe Rogan
That is weird as fuck.
- SPSpeaker
As you guys keep saying spells, I keep thinking of prompts for-
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs] And if you don't know the right prompt, you know-
- TETyler Engle
Yeah
- SPSpeaker
... you're not gonna get the right thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- SPSpeaker
And [laughs]
- TETyler Engle
Or it's gonna give you-
- SPSpeaker
It's just as magical.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, dude, I think you just nailed something.
- TETyler Engle
Damn, Jamie.
- SPSpeaker
Sorry.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TETyler Engle
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
That's not why you apologize.
- TETyler Engle
Jamie, you need to write a book.
- SPSpeaker
Okay.
- TETyler Engle
Write one on Jamie.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs] He keeps sending the path.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, that's, wow.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah. As it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Spells and prompts
- SPSpeaker
... he keeps saying them, I'm like, that's f-
- 1:26:05 – 1:33:29
Optics encoded in art: spherical refraction diagrams and the Great Pyramid as an energy device
- TETyler Engle
There we go. There's a-
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa
- TETyler Engle
... yeah. So this is in that same book, The Book of the Caverns, right? This is just a different page of it. But what you're looking at down there is, um, this guy Art of Clay Taylor, I use his stuff all the time, he's like, just did this amazing analysis of the... So what's happening is there's being light, this is how a sphere refracts light.
- JRJoe Rogan
Go back to the top, please.
- SPSpeaker
That's right. It's hard to show on the screen for everybody, that's the problem is-
- JRJoe Rogan
Can you, uh, shrink it?
- SPSpeaker
I, no, no one can see it on the screen.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. Oh, I see, on TV?
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to-
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay
- SPSpeaker
... do them both.
- TETyler Engle
[laughs] Yeah, so the, the comparison basically, um, you see where the, the beam is going in a perfectly straight line there?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- TETyler Engle
So that's containing all of these, uh, the deities. You can see that they are pulling the, the, the end there is Khnum. He's, uh... Man, we have to go through the entire Egyptian pantheon to explain this. But basically what it's saying is there, there's, uh, a energy, a knowledge, a wisdom being transmitted through this, this light, and when you look at it, it is the exact optical refraction of a sphere. And so that's the, the solar disc is basically the transmitter of this, this information, the deity's consciousness. So how you manipulate that light is what we see in the actual temples, and so it's basically a tuning fork. The, they use the light as a tuning fork to get this information or to navigate through this underworld spiritual realm, and the evidence of that for me is in the perfect optical refraction of a sphere, the diagram.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's crazy that it completely aligns.
- TETyler Engle
No, it's, it's, it's dead on.
- JRJoe Rogan
And there's a sphere.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So there's a-
- TETyler Engle
And then you have-
- JRJoe Rogan
... sphere at the right side of the image.
- TETyler Engle
Okay. I'm gonna blow your mind even more here.
- JRJoe Rogan
And the spherical refraction that you see that's mirrored down below it, what actually happens with the light in a sphere.
- TETyler Engle
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're seeing the exact thing, including the reversal of the images, top and bottom.
- TETyler Engle
So, so Jamie, if you open that last one, I'll make-
- SPSpeaker
Yeah
- TETyler Engle
... the, this one'll make sense. At the tip of that, w- that image that we saw, you know, you had that straight line going through it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TETyler Engle
If you overlay the, the Great Pyramid over the spherical refraction, it is, one, we, we know that the angle of a rainbow is in the side of the pyramid. It is, it, in the concave part of it, 'cause the pyra- Great Pyramid's eight-sided. There's a line that goes right through it. That is the angle of a double py- of a double rainbow, and the, the way that the sphere refracts the light is the exact layout of the Great Pyramid. And so where the, the Grand Gallery goes, the, that middle part that I'm pointing the area, the, or the, uh, yeah, I'm pointing the arrow to, that is where right on the tip of the, of the, the sphere, it breaks the colors up into the seven colors of the, uh, rainbow, right? ROYGBIV.
- 1:33:29 – 2:08:12
Terraforming and the global temple network: ecology machines, water systems, and civilization bootstraps
- TETyler Engle
So this is the importance of, of... This is why I think it's infrastructure, because I think that, um, you know, if we, if we're talking about these planetary cycles and stuff like that, the, the civilization that was before the dynastic Egyptians, the ones that built the infrastructure like Osirian, Osirus Shaft, and pyramids, they probably had to do some environmental modification to make civilization work in certain areas. I think maybe the Earth went through something quite serious before the Younger Dryas even, and this was kind of a recovery system for that. And when you look at the work of, uh, you know, Gerald Pollack, does like EZ Water.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- TETyler Engle
Like structured water.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, okay.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TETyler Engle
He does, he does w- 'cause that's what your body uses. Your body is, is water, but it's structured water. It's a liquid crystal. And it, that, that's because it can carry nutrients and electricity and a, uh, basically all you need for life is in structured water. And every temple was interacting with this structured water, or at least a body of water or an intersection between the two. And, and Randall talks about this endl- endlessly too. But so there's this geometric interface between the ionosphere and the telluric currents or ground currents that control soil conductivity, right? So if I put a geometric interface between the two, then I can shape that. And then if I shape it even more with an underground network of pipes and systems that are distributing this out to the environment like we see at Angkor Wat and at Dashur in Egypt, then this starts to become an ecological machine essentially that's, that has no moving parts, but is interacting with the environment in a way that like I... The best thing I can say is, is terraforming. You know, they were, they were terraforming or creating a local ecology that could sustain life where they wanted to live in the most productive parts of the world, I guess.
- JRJoe Rogan
So with this geometric pat- so with, with the pyramid itself, what do you think the structure underneath it is? Do you have a theory, like what the purpose of it was?
- TETyler Engle
If they are the, the shape that Filippo is saying that they are, you know, if they are accurately that big and that large, then those to me sound... They look like tuning forks. They look like there's s- some sort of resonant cavities in a way that if it's, if we're focusing that ener- that energy from, from, uh, you know, the atmosphere down into the ground, then the, the shape of it, you're essentially looking at the top of an obelisk.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TETyler Engle
And we know what the obelisks look like.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TETyler Engle
And we know the obelisk ring. And so all of these, these, um, these things are lining up. So, so the, the Great Pyramid itself, the main thing is made of, of limestone, right? And then you have the King's Chamber that's made of, of rose granite that was transported from 500 fucking miles away. But they-
- JRJoe Rogan
Turned around.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah. [laughs] Exa-
- JRJoe Rogan
80 tons.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah, no big deal. Uh, but the rose granite's interesting. The rose granite ha- is, is high in quartz, so it's piezoelectric, and then it is also ferromagnetic. That's why it's rose, is there's a lot of iron in it. So if it is taking, if the Great Pyramid is taking the, in these, these radio waves- And then essentially focusing them into electromagnetic energy. That energy's passing through the King's Chamber, which would interact with that in a way that would ma- basically tune that energy. It's like the spontaneous synchronization of the consciousness we were talking about earlier. Same concept but going into the ground. So if we're taking this and we're tuning that energy going into the ground that our plants and our, our light, our, ah, humans can work with, then, then we have a system of cultivating this Garden of Eden, essentially, in any area that we want. You can-- If you can bring these little devices and you can put a node here and a node here and a node here and a node here, then you create this vast network of a very livable environment. And when they don't work, then you have a very arid environment that is unlivable, which is what they, what we see in Egypt now. And so-
- JRJoe Rogan
So you think it was geoengineering?
- TETyler Engle
I think it was-- No, I think it was... You can't say our phones are just phones, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TETyler Engle
Our phones do way more than that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TETyler Engle
I think their main purpose was stabilizing the local, local ecology and the environment of these places. I think that was a main purpose. A secondary purpose was learning and teaching humans how to use this energy in other ways that benefited life in general. So organizing society in, in a, in a proper, you know, civilization would be very important. Ah, engineering things to withstand earthquakes and environmental disasters would be very important. Hydrology would be very important. All of these things seem to be, ah, a part of that system as well, where once you have this, ah, the battery's connected to my phone, my phone's working, right? But then I have to download the apps to do other stuff with it. The apps are essentially what the humans are doing. The apps become the human. You get to-- You, you go into this place, and it's, it's providing you with your, with your, ah, your environment you can live. And then you go into the temples, and it's basically your university where you download your, your information, and then you create your civilization after that. It'd be a way of, of boxing up a civilization and basically white labeling it so you could do it somewhere else, and using the local, ah, creatures that evolved there naturally, which would fit in perfectly with what we see, right? If, if Earth evolved primates naturally, then they get modified to accept these signals by these people, these beings that came here or that had been here already, then all you'd have to do is really find another creature that's capable of speaking, and then you have your, your template. And then that template spliced with your genetics and connected with the system becomes a way of living on any world that you choose.
- JRJoe Rogan
[sighs] Oh, okay. So you think that this was-- So i- in this ability that these things have to control the environment and make it more hospitable, do you think this has an ability to affect weather? Do you think they're doing that? Do you think they're making more plant growth? What, what do you think they're doing with this?
- TETyler Engle
Both. So we have to separate these out into certain, um... I- I'll separate it into three main categories here. So we have the Americas, which was like the biologist, biologists. They were the lab of, ah, that worked with the plants. They were, they're-- We see this in all of their sacred sites, right? Ah, they were acclimatizing crops. They were living in Machu Picchu, where they could grow food up on top of mountains. They would-- They were still close to sea level, where they could manipulate that whole environment too. They were masters of, of working with this. Like, the entire Amazon is, was, is pretty much engineered by humans. So that, that to me is, is, um, like going to school for biology or agriculture. And then you have Europe, y- the European, um, area, Greco-Roman stuff, which is ordering society and making sure that that resources are distributed properly and, and humans can [chuckles] ... Re- regardless of how you think about that, ah, the Romans were the most successful empire builders of all time, and they, they did that by absorbing, ah, different belief systems. So they were kind of transmuting the, the different thoughts of the people around them and in their empire to work for the, the greater good, I guess. And then you have Egypt, which is consciousness, like all conscious-based, and, and what-- all their hieroglyphs and stuff. They were kind of the people that were like, "Okay, this is how you make a connection with these natural patterns of nature that we call..." They called netters, n- the meter, netters. Um, but that's where we get our name for nature. The netters were these patterns of, uh, you know, nature, consciousness, and things like that, and you could essentially tap into those and gain insight, wisdom, and gnosis through that. And then you have the Hindu and the Pacific Islands over here, which if you look at all of their stuff, they were working with the water. They were prepping the water. They were cleaning the water. They were doing all this stuff to water. You have Hindu stepwells. Every one of them has a Shiva lingam that you pour water onto, you know, as, as their ritual, which purifies and, and makes the water sacred. And then you get into the Pacific Islands. You have places like, um, Angkor Wat, which is the most hydrological, hydrologically advanced system that we've ever seen in the ancient world, and we still don't know of its, its, its true scale, right? And so I like, I like using Angkor Wat because it's kind of a good example of what this ancient system was, where they all have a piece of, of the same- I guess, theory. They all have the technology, but they have specializations for implementing it into reality. And so with that, you have your, your population evolves in terms of intellect and ability in controlling the environment and survivability. And so you have a school, essentially a, a human school of teaching humans how to cultivate this, this living thing on this planet, which is the planet itself. It's basically awakening the planet to intelligence, whether that's plant life, human intelligence, w- whatever works with this type of energy, that was the system for implementing it, is the, is the temple system. And so the evidence in that for, for my line of research would be, okay, we have clear examples of our tech doing this, and this is what it does. And this stuff, one, yeah, this looks like this, whatever, but we're working with different scales. If you're looking at the layout of these temples, we're working with the electromagnetic spectrum in our phones, and they are working in the acoustic spectrum with the temples. They're all tuned to crazy resonances everywhere, and their not- their notation for that was flowers, essentially, and the flowers match up with cymatic patterns. And so these are essentially the keys to working with the, with the different temple frequencies inside of it. So you're, you're an operator. You're, like, driving this thing, essentially, of, of what it can do.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ. How the hell did they learn this?
- TETyler Engle
Your guess is as good as mine, dude. [laughs] I'm just, I'm just trying to-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, but this is-
- TETyler Engle
... I'm just trying to DJ this stuff and figure out this knowledge. [laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's a fascinating perspective, but it also makes you think, like, what are we really talking about?
- 2:08:12 – 2:22:34
Stargates, rock-cut doorways, and acoustics + psychedelics as navigation technologies
- TETyler Engle
And then you have stargates, yeah. Well, that would make a lot of sense. Like, the whole, you know the, the gate phenomenon, the doorways to nowhere phenomenon-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes
- TETyler Engle
... you see them in Peru.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- TETyler Engle
They're in Saudi Arabia. Like, Hegra in Saudi Arabia, you know what that is?
- JRJoe Rogan
I've heard the word.
- TETyler Engle
Hegra-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know what it is.
- TETyler Engle
Jamie, pull up Hegra. That, this stuff... So a, a key component of this system is that the information is transferred in the rock itself. Tesla proved that this was possible, that you could, you could transfer energy and information through, through the stone substrate of the earth, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- TETyler Engle
So if you can do... Yeah. If you can do this, you basically, all you need to do is create gates in the rock, and you can r- remote view, like a hologram, any place on Earth. You just go through, and then you have this geometric gate that you recognize because it's the geometry that, that every culture is using, and then you basically pop out of a rock into, in your spirit form. That's what the Egyptians said, the Merkabah could travel through these things.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- TETyler Engle
So, so then you have the... Yeah, you have stuff in the middle of, of deserts that-
- JRJoe Rogan
And what's the conventional explanation for these things?
- SPSpeaker
Tombs.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tombs. Hell of a fucking tomb.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah. But-
- JRJoe Rogan
Must be a dope dude that died.
- TETyler Engle
You, yeah-
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at that thing
- TETyler Engle
... but you see this, this same phenomenon in, uh, Jamie, Google, uh, L-Y-C-I-A, Lycia.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is, but hold on, before we go there. Is this in the middle of nowhere?
- TETyler Engle
Uh, it's in the middle-
- JRJoe Rogan
It looks like-
- TETyler Engle
... of Saudi Arabian desert, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Go, go down to that cat on the bottom that's just standing there looking at him. He's like, "Hey, check it out."
- TETyler Engle
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs] Like-
- TETyler Engle
"This is my home." [laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
... I wonder what that means to them. I wonder what they think it is.
- 2:22:34 – 2:23:42
Closing thoughts, future experiments, and Tyler’s upcoming talks/performances
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's awesome, man. I'm glad you're doing it. Uh, bassforge.us is your Instagram. Um, YouTube?
- TETyler Engle
Yeah, same thing. Same thing on YouTube. Um, doing a lot more live stuff this year too, so like-
- JRJoe Rogan
What are you doing live?
- TETyler Engle
Uh, so I'm leaving for CPAC tomorrow, the Conference for Procession and Ancient Knowledge that's in Cali, and, uh, I'll be speaking there. And then coming back, and then I'm going to be playing a music festival called Wakan in Arkansas. And then after that, I'll be back here for a conference called Quest for Ancients. It's downtown Austin. Um, they'll be speaking and playing there, so-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that the October thing?
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's October 6-
- TETyler Engle
16th through the 18th.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, cool.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah. So that one's, that one's gonna be really cool. I'm, I'm debuting this brand-new project that I've been working on for like four years there. So that's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah, basically a synthesis of w- everything that we talked about with visuals and music, so.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, amazing.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be pretty sweet.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, dude, thank you very much for being here. I really appreciate it.
- TETyler Engle
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was a lot of fun.
- TETyler Engle
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
All right.
- TETyler Engle
Awesome.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bye, everybody. [outro music]
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